[00:29] <fta> asac, it's not the bandaid
[00:48] <asac> fta: so backport of what you showed me on 3.1?
[00:48] <fta> i don't know for sure, no src package
[01:18] <asac> hehe yeah. fud then
[01:30] <fta> asac, no, i said no bandaid because there's no libcairo inside the debs
[01:41] <fta> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=946574
[01:41] <asac> hmm
[01:42] <asac> fta: thtas broken
[01:42] <fta> i know, but the error is funny
[01:42] <fta> iis like
[01:42] <asac> yeah ;)
[01:43] <fta> title is "Garbled Windows with Intel graphics"
[01:44] <fta> with corrupted screenshots of ff
[01:48] <fta> asac, http://www.sofaraway.org/ubuntu/tmp/corrupted.png
[01:51] <fta> well, the page is back
[02:14] <asac> yeah
[02:14] <asac> wouldnt say i expected it to be fixed
[02:14] <asac> ;)
[09:44] <gnomefreak> I hate when people do that :(
[09:44] <gnomefreak> !info thunderbird intrepid
[09:47] <gnomefreak> ok this is weird, from announce-prerelease mailing list from mozilla just informed me that 2.0.0.14=RC 2.0.0.15=Beta 2.0.0.16=Beta
[09:47] <gnomefreak> seems to say firefox 3.0.1 is pre release as well
[09:59] <gnomefreak> 1268 bug mail
[10:03] <gnomefreak> asac: what is the setting in firefox to make it not take focus? as in opening a tab firefox steals focus
[10:04] <asac> gnomefreak: there is no setting as far as i can tell
[10:04] <gnomefreak> there used to be i just cant remember it
[10:05] <gnomefreak> fta: had given it to me a while ago
[10:12] <asac> then i dont know :=
[10:20] <gnomefreak> :)
[10:22] <gnomefreak> asac: .:05:16:09:. <        ozatomic > does this sound right to anyone. Just booted  up laptop with 8.10, and it locked up during  load, reboot load .24 kernal instead boots  fine, reboot into .27 kernal loads fine but no  wireless, reboot load .27 kernal again and  wireless is found :S
[10:22] <gnomefreak> does that make sense?
[10:35] <asac> no. but often wireless is just unreliable
[10:36] <gnomefreak> true
[10:37] <gnomefreak> he than tells me gnome doesnt work
[10:37]  * gnomefreak would have thought that would be first :(
[11:03] <asac> fta: ok ... we need a transition package for firefox-2
[11:03] <asac> it was removed now
[11:26] <gnomefreak> it wont remove it upon upgrade?
[11:53] <asac> didrocks: ping
[11:53] <asac> didrocks: swfdec ;)
[12:25] <armin76> asac: bumb!
[12:51] <didrocks> asac: pong
[12:52] <didrocks> :)
[12:52] <didrocks> I have some additionnal information to ask (for my general culture, I don't like to do stuff I don't understand)
[12:52] <didrocks> in one hour approximately, I have to do some stuff for my paid work first ;)
[12:59] <asac> k
[13:05] <asac> damn. i am going crazy
[13:05] <asac> why is apache2 so dumb?
[13:05] <asac> it doesnt allow me to use userdir :(
[13:06] <asac> anyone uses apache here?
[13:14] <asac> stupid me ;)
[13:16] <asac> wasted half a day with apache config, but in the end it was $HOME permission issue :(
[13:33] <sebner> asac: BTW, would you mind telling me what's going on irc.ubuntu.com? I'm wondering since it seems everybody is here on freenode
[13:41] <asac> sebner: ?
[13:42] <asac> sebner: irc.ubuntu.com is just a alias ... it currently points to freenode
[13:42] <sebner> asac: ah, good to know ^^
[13:42] <asac> if we decide to move the ubuntu project somewhere else we would point that somewhere else :)
[13:42] <sebner> kk
[13:42] <asac> like irc.debian.org, which moved from freenode to oftc
[13:43] <sebner> freenode is not big enough for these 2, hmm :P
[13:43] <asac> freenode was too annoying for debian folks
[13:43] <sebner>  ^ ^
[13:44] <asac> we ended up haveing half the folks in #debian-devel on freenode and the other half on oftc
[13:44] <sebner> would make collaboration easier though
[13:44] <asac> there were a bunch of DDs that refused to join freenode and once more than half were on oftc it was made official :)
[13:44] <asac> well. adding another server to decent IRC clients isnt hard ;)
[13:45] <sebner> sure but people are lazy :P
[13:56] <asac> didrocks: 1h ;)
[14:06] <fta2> asac, so mike extracted a patch from moz cairo
[14:07] <fta2> asac, i have cairo 1.8.0 ready, should we include the same patch??
[14:08] <fta2> http://glandium.org/blog/?p=209
[14:28] <didrocks> asac: re :)
[14:29] <didrocks> I dream about having a work for ubuntu, one day ^^
[14:29] <didrocks> so, I just have some question
[14:29] <didrocks> the package is ready, but I need to build it at home and make the check if FF3 is not in an installed state
[14:30] <didrocks> so, my question were:
[14:30] <didrocks> "for touch in firefox-3*/.autoreg || true`; do touch...
[14:31] <didrocks> I think it would be better if we also touching these file on remove/purge
[14:32] <didrocks> 2. What about iceweasel (I do not remember if we have it on intrepid)?
[14:32] <didrocks> 3. he plugin contain a lot of empy folder: /usr/lib/(iceweasel|iceape|mozilla|xulrunner]/plugins which are populated by a symlink with the update-alternatives, but it creates a lot of unused directories (same with the new ubufox one)... Why creating some craps in the FHS :)
[14:33] <didrocks> and 4. /usr/share/ubufox/plugins/ -> what the use of it?
[14:33] <didrocks> (having a symlink with the .so file)
[14:33] <didrocks> when you will be back, of course ^^
[14:36] <asac> didrocks: touching on remove wont be needed for plugins
[14:36] <asac> didrocks: no iceweasel in ubuntu
[14:37] <asac> didrocks: the ubufox directory is done through dh_link ... isnt it?
[14:37] <asac> didrocks: the alternative directories needs to be redone
[14:37] <asac> but thats true for everything and we should do a batch effort in jaunty
[14:38] <asac> didrocks: could you show me the control?
[14:38] <didrocks> asac: created or symlink for "the ubufox directory" ?
[14:38] <asac> didrocks: just a dh_link should be enough
[14:38] <asac> no need to create the directory ... that happens implicitly
[14:39] <asac> didrocks: i need to check the Xb-Npp headers ;)
[14:39] <asac> just paste control somewhere
[14:40] <didrocks> asac: http://paste.ubuntu.com/57440/
[14:40] <didrocks> for the directory, I made the same as for the others symlinks
[14:40] <didrocks> that is to say :
[14:40] <asac> looks decent
[14:40] <asac> thanks
[14:40] <didrocks> - create the directory using swfdec-mozilla.dirs
[14:40] <didrocks> - in the postinst, using update-alternatives
[14:40] <asac> nope. just swfdec-mozilla.links
[14:41] <asac> the dirs isnt needed anymore
[14:41] <asac> dont use the update-alternatives mess for the ubufox link ;)
[14:41] <didrocks> ok :)
[14:41] <didrocks> what does this directory used for?
[14:41] <asac> didrocks: i will show you in a few
[14:42] <asac> install your latest package and the latest mozilla-plugin-gnash package
[14:42] <asac> didrocks: in about:plugins you should now see both: gnash + swfdec
[14:42] <didrocks> asac: I am at work, I take note and will see that tonight :)
[14:42] <didrocks> (my intrepid VM is deconnected from the network)
[14:42] <didrocks> s/deconnect/disconnected
[14:44] <asac> didrocks: ok. give me the debdiff then please
[14:44] <didrocks> hum, I didn't test it, I wanted to do it this evening (testing with FF3 removed, in particular), so be sure that everything is ok. Can I give it to you tomorrow mornging, tested?
[14:46] <fta2> asac, ^^ (cairo)
[14:50] <sebner> what do my eyes are seeing. ff 3.1 b1 binaries :D
[14:50] <cwillu_remote> if I say "nssessionstore 'component is not available'", is anyone familiar with what I'm talking about?
[14:50] <cwillu_remote> the sessionsaver bug that breaks restoring on (among other things) really big sessions,
[14:50] <cwillu_remote> ?
[14:53] <fta2> sebner, ??
[14:55] <sebner> fta2: ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/releases/3.1b1/
[14:56] <fta2> so ?
[14:57] <sebner> fta2: nice isn't it? ^^
[14:57] <fta2> what ? i'm getting a nice dialog asking for a password. never seen it before
[15:00] <asac> didrocks: better give it to me
[15:00] <asac> didrocks: i really would like to get this up asap
[15:00] <asac> i can fix the rest if its not too much
[15:00] <didrocks> asac: ok, I open a bug and attach to it?
[15:01] <sebner> fta2: O_o me not. I can download b1.tar.gz or .exe ...
[15:01] <asac> didrocks: if you want ... isnt there a 0.8 bug open or something?
[15:02] <didrocks> yes, we can attach it to bug #279207
[15:02] <sebner> asac: http://www.golem.de/0810/62929.html  Iron ftw! ^^
[15:03] <fta2> sebner, http://www.sofaraway.org/ubuntu/tmp/Screenshot-Enter-Password.png
[15:03] <fta2> [reed], ^^
[15:06] <sebner> fta2: http://img372.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotindexofftpftppl2.png
[15:15] <didrocks> asac: bug #279207, debdiff is attached
[15:15] <asac> didrocks: debdiff agains debian?
[15:16] <asac> or isnt there a debian thing?
[15:16] <didrocks> asac: hum, no, debdiff against last ubuntu version
[15:16] <asac> didrocks: can you also attach the diff.gz and dsc please?
[15:16] <asac> for the latest?
[15:17] <asac> thanks
[15:17] <didrocks> ok
[15:18] <didrocks> that what I have done for the other (normally, I do that for updating to a new version), but as you requested a debdiff... :)
[15:18] <didrocks> asac: done
[15:18] <asac> gratias
[15:18] <asac> enjoy. i will see if i can take over
[15:18] <asac> if there are too many issues we can do that tomorrow
[15:19] <didrocks> ok, keep me in touch :)
[15:19] <asac> didrocks: oh where is the link to the orig?
[15:19] <asac> i hate hunting that by myself
[15:20] <asac> didrocks: there is no thing for both ... if you dont answer i will hunt them ;)
[15:20] <didrocks> asac: one sec
[15:21] <didrocks> asac : http://swfdec.freedesktop.org/download/swfdec-mozilla/0.8/swfdec-mozilla-0.8.0.tar.gz
[15:21] <asac> thx
[15:21] <asac> -gnome?
[15:21] <didrocks> http://ftp.acc.umu.se/pub/GNOME/sources/swfdec-gnome/2.24/
[15:22] <asac> ok i will find the other then i guess
[15:22] <didrocks> for swfdec ?
[15:22] <asac> y
[15:22] <didrocks> it is in the repository, no ?
[15:22] <didrocks> (it has been accepted short time ago)
[15:23] <didrocks> yes, at 3:30PM, should be released now
[15:24] <asac> ah ok
[15:24] <asac> err ... so it was uploaded?
[15:24] <didrocks> yes, dholbach has uploaded it a couple of day ago
[15:25] <didrocks> but as it has been a new package (because of the naming convention), it has waited in NEW
[15:26] <asac> yeah that sucks
[15:27] <asac> we should try to convince debian maintainer to stop doing that
[15:27] <didrocks> the issue is the soname of the librairy
[15:27] <asac> doesnt matter
[15:27] <didrocks> it has no version in it...
[15:27] <asac> the binary packages could be changing
[15:27] <asac> thats ok
[15:27] <asac> but not a new source for each and every release
[15:28] <asac> that shouldnt be done unless you can prevent that
[15:28] <didrocks> ok, yes, that's possible
[15:28] <asac> the debian maintainer says: i like to ship two version in the same release
[15:28] <asac> (even though not a single rdepends exist) :)
[15:28] <didrocks> that's very useful ^^
[15:28] <asac> yeah
[15:28] <asac> obviously
[15:29] <asac> archive admins are idle anyway. why not put load on them for nothing ;)
[15:29] <didrocks> fortunately, every packages does not the same...
[15:30] <didrocks> yes, archive admins do nothing, everyone knows that :D
[15:34] <asac> didrocks: -dev is not yet on my mirror
[15:35] <didrocks> ok, if you want to build it yourself: http://swfdec.freedesktop.org/download/swfdec/0.8/swfdec-0.8.0.tar.gz
[16:04] <asac> didrocks: its for i ... ; do (e.g. not :)
[16:04] <asac> fixed
[16:08] <didrocks> asac: oupssss, mistyping (I can't use here the usual excuse "I use ksh at work" there ;))
[16:19] <asac> hehe
[16:42] <asac> didrocks: uploaded
[16:43] <asac> only thing changed was the ;
[16:43] <asac> or ... hmm cant remember ;)
[16:44] <didrocks> great :)
[16:44] <asac> didrocks: please test what comes back from archive ;)
[16:44] <asac> when home of course
[16:45] <didrocks> yes, I will do it tonight (or tomorrow morning, I will not escape from the OOo 3 event in Paris ^^)
[16:45] <didrocks> I keep you in touch to give some test removing FF3 and install it (snapshot rocks to come back to a stable state ;))
[16:46] <asac> didrocks: snapshot?
[16:46] <asac> 3.1?
[16:47] <didrocks> asac: I usually use the one embedded in the VM
[16:52] <asac> fta2: so you are saying that you are seeing the cairo bug?
[16:52] <asac> cairo/X bug?
[16:55] <fta2> nope
[16:55] <didrocks> thx asac for both sponsoring :)
[18:53] <[reed]> fta2: never seen that before
[20:21] <sebner> asac: fta2 are you also TB heros?
[20:21] <fta> sebner, is that a question for me ?
[20:22] <sebner> fta: if you are a hero yes :P
[20:22] <fta> i packaged tb3, but i would not say i'm a tb hero
[20:22] <sebner> fta: I ever used TB without problems and *now* that. http://img515.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotalertmh6.png
[20:24] <sebner> could also be a gmail issue though ^^
[20:24] <sebner> but never had this before
[20:25] <fta> are you using a proxy?
[20:25] <sebner> no
[20:25] <sebner> and as I said. never happened before
[20:25] <sebner> and I didn't change anything the last hours (where it was working)
[20:29] <asac> sebner: "the last hours"? what did you change a few hours ago?
[20:29] <sebner> asac: nothing :\
[20:30] <sebner> asac: what I wanted to say was that I checked mails some hours ago and it was working and now I checked and this is the result but I didn't change anything
[20:30] <fta> could be a problem in their mail farm
[20:31] <asac> yeah most likely
[20:31] <sebner> fta: asac kk, thx ^^
[20:32] <fta> google has a lot of hits, some years old, all platforms, all mua, so it's not tb related
[20:33] <sebner> kk
[20:41] <fta> sebner, btw, i can't stand your colors ;)
[20:42] <sebner> fta: that'S ubuntu default :P
[20:42] <sebner> fta: /me is just too lazy to change it
[20:42] <fta> really ? i thought it has been reverted months ago
[20:43] <sebner> fta: hmm, ok it's not that default. Human is still the old one but it's still there called NewHuman
[20:45] <sebner> fta: it's not that good true but as I said I'm too lazy to change it ^^
[20:45] <fta> asac, is bug 226139 really release-critical??
[20:47] <fta> if it is, it could be backported from trunk, but i seriously doubt it should be considered release-critical
[20:49] <asac> fta: its not release critical for firefox
[20:50] <asac> its not release critical for the overall release
[20:50] <asac> its only a rc bug for the theme thing imo
[20:50] <fta> The list of release-critical bugs is tracked here:
[20:50] <fta>   https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/intrepid/+bugs?field.milestone=1326
[20:50] <fta> Subject: intrepid release freeze approaching
[20:50] <asac> yeah
[20:51] <asac> fta: i removed it from that list now
[20:52] <asac> damnm
[20:52] <asac> i have to upload this ubufox thign tomorrow :)
[20:52] <asac> or even today ;)
[20:52] <asac> otherwise it will surely not make it through RM
[20:57] <sebner> TB with gmail working again :)
[21:00] <fta> asac, we should fix the firefox-branding.js bug
[21:04] <fta> gasp, my wallpaper just changed
[21:06] <fta> FENNEC_A1_BRANCH
[21:17] <fta> "Shredder Alpha 3 is now available" let's see if it's now a4pre or b1pre
[21:18] <fta> b1pre, nice, I can update the package again
[21:35] <fta> sebner, just retested DarkRoom, i still hate it. far too many things still have a white background. launchpad is 1st on the list
[21:37] <sebner> fta: ^^ unfortunately true but it's still acceptable for me
[21:41] <fta> greader and gmail are also white
[21:41] <sebner> fta: well I use TB for gmail ^^
[21:41] <fta> google too
[21:42] <fta> i use prism
[21:42] <sebner> sometimes the buttons are difficult to read
[22:33] <crimsun> fta: I think your nondeterministic audio blocking issues are related to bug 274124
[22:42] <fta> crimsun, in my case, i never have to kill pa, usually, identifying and killing the app that stole the snd dev is enough
[22:43] <fta> is do that with sudo lsof -n | grep snd
[22:43] <fta> it's usually one of firefox/prism/totem/rhythmbox
[22:44] <crimsun> right, sudo {lsof,fuser -v} /dev/dsp* /dev/snd/*
[22:44] <crimsun> hopefully I'll have time to chase down the rabbit hole when I'm back from travel
[22:48] <fta> the new ibex wallpaper has too many details. it's difficult to read the icon names on it
[22:54] <fta> asac, the pdf generated by ff3(.1) are unreadable
[23:32] <asac> fta: hmm
[23:32] <asac> for me it worked when i last tried
[23:32] <asac> maybe cairo regression?
[23:35] <fta> asac, when i print this http://www.notre-planete.info/actualites/actu_1790.php, i get this http://www.sofaraway.org/ubuntu/tmp/coccinelles.pdf and it looks like this http://www.sofaraway.org/ubuntu/tmp/coccinelles.png
[23:36] <asac> ok ubufox shoved up :)
[23:36] <asac> 24h before end-freeze
[23:37] <asac> fta: err. where does that thing print to?
[23:38] <fta> ? to file, as pdf
[23:38] <asac> i selected "pdf"
[23:38] <asac> it printed
[23:38] <asac> and now its nowhere ;)
[23:39] <asac> pdf printer that was
[23:39] <fta> for me, pdf doesn't work. it does apparently nothing, but the status turns to "no %%Pages header..."
[23:40] <asac> fta:  http://people.ubuntu.com/~asac/tmp/output.pdf
[23:40] <asac> looks good here
[23:40] <asac> printed it through file -> pdf
[23:42] <asac> hmm ... jazzva still not back ;)
[23:42] <asac> i think today he returns :)
[23:45] <asac> *sigh* how much i hate freezes :)
[23:46] <asac> saivann: there?
[23:53]  * asac dist-upgrades again
[23:53] <asac> 267M of archives :)
[23:53] <asac> MB
[23:53] <asac> thats one day ;)
[23:53] <asac> or two?
[23:53] <asac> cant remember :-P