[00:11] <vonkleist> uh? how do I change display resolution on 8.10? vi xorg.conf ?
[00:12] <favro> !intrepid
[00:13] <sarir> oh bad bad bad
[00:14] <vonkleist> sure, but does that mean that there's no way by now? or only that you don't know how?
[00:15] <sarir> vonkleist, it's such a mess
[00:15] <sarir> forget about it
[00:15] <sarir> -.-
[00:15] <vonkleist> :S
[00:15] <sarir> jep
[00:15] <vonkleist> it's only 16 days 'till release...
[00:15] <vonkleist> :S
[00:16] <vonkleist> will it be ready??
[00:16] <sarir> i hope so
[00:16] <vonkleist> me2!
[00:16] <sarir> i am trying to update everyday..... and going back to vista :-O
[00:16] <sarir> i should not say it.....
[00:17] <sarir>  see  https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuIntrepidVersion | Warning lots of breaking software between now and October! see  https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuIntrepidVersion | Warning lots of breaking software between now and October!
[00:17] <fabricio>  /msg iSLiFECORP invite i32x4q7bfeivxn7q
[00:17] <sorush20> plasma panels are only bing added to the top of the screen how to I solve this?
[00:17] <sarir> this message scares me
[00:18] <fabricio>  /msg iSLiFECORP invite i32x4q7bfeivxn7q
[00:20] <itsatrick> How long does an update to kde4 usually take at a fairly fast connection speed?
[00:20] <dsmith_> kde4 ugly
[00:20] <itsatrick> It's taking me 4 to 6 hours.
[00:20] <dsmith_> i like mint kde better
[00:23] <sorush20> itsatrick: to update kde or download 700mb for me it takes 30sec
[00:23] <itsatrick> :(
[00:23] <sorush20> this is probably the only time I really would want to show off.
[00:23] <sorush20> I'm at uni and p2p is not allowed and blocked so everything is fact
[00:23] <sorush20> fast
[00:24] <itsatrick> I followed the directions online for "Lenny."  I added deb <mirror> <newline> deb-src <mirror> in /etc/apt/sources.list. Is that right?
[00:25] <itsatrick> The mirror being http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian sid main
[00:29] <xweb> itsatrick: Why are you using a debian mirror.
[00:31] <itsatrick> Ah.  Thanks, xweb.  Just looked on the kubuntu site.
[00:32] <itsatrick> It's almost done updating now.  A whole lot better than 4 hours. :)
[00:33] <xweb> Your wellcome! :D
[00:34] <user__> can anyone here help me with kde sound
[00:34] <xweb> user__: Whats the problem?
[00:34] <ryan_rohypnol> Hello
[00:34] <ryan_rohypnol> i have a quick question about my webcam
[00:35] <ryan_rohypnol> if somone can private message me and help me find a solution that would be gladly appreciated
[00:35] <itsatrick> Hm, still says it'll take about two hours.
[00:35] <user__> xweb, alsa is working, yet kde wont play sound
[00:39] <ryan_rohypnol> So does anyone know how to make the Logitech Orbit work with Kubuntu?
[00:40] <Ryan_Rohypnol> hello?
[00:40] <gecko_> Ryan: as far as i know, there are some logitech cams that just simply wont work with unbuntu.. i had gotten myself one, and i was unable to use it, returned it for a different one, and it's simple plug and play..
[00:41] <Ryan_Rohypnol> yea but the UVC cam thing say it would work
[00:41] <Ryan_Rohypnol> i just need detailed instruction on how to get it to work 100%
[00:42] <gecko_> joing the Ubuntu channel, and they should be able to assist you more.
[00:42] <gecko_> join*
[00:42] <gecko_> as i do not have your answers, sorry
[00:43] <Ryan_Rohypnol> Thank you
[00:47] <Ryan_Rohypnol> what's the thing for ubuntus IRC
[00:48] <gecko_>  /join unbuntu
[00:51] <joseph> I have just installed 8.04.1 64 bit and when I go to shut down, I cant .
[00:52] <joseph> In the log off screen, I only get the logg off option
[00:53] <joseph> Idont get 'restart' or 'shutdown'
[00:53] <joseph> what do I do?
[00:57] <joseph> hello?
[00:57] <gecko_> i would say join the Ubuntu channel     /join ubuntu
[00:58] <joseph> why? I have kubuntu
[00:58] <gecko_> i have never seen anyone talking on this channel..
[00:58] <gecko_> it's a defualt channel
[00:59] <joseph> well, usually in the PM (pm for me) I have almost always got great support here
[00:59] <xweb> joseph: how are you starting kde?
[00:59] <joseph> at boot up (auto)
[00:59] <xweb> though kdm?
[00:59] <joseph> duak boot
[01:00] <gecko_> and i stand corrected.... and i apologize..
[01:00] <joseph> this is a fresh install
[01:00] <joseph> I never had to type anything to start kde
[01:01] <joseph> gecko_:   :o)
[01:01] <xweb> joseph: is this kde 3 or 4.
[01:01] <joseph> 3.5
[01:01] <joseph> 64 bit
[01:02] <elliott> is there a dedicated chanel for intrepid?
[01:02] <chrivers> How can I make a folderview plasmoid take up the entire "desktop" area?
[01:03] <chrivers> I really don't like having an extra border around everything
[01:03] <joseph> xweb: any ideas?
[01:04] <xweb> joseph: you mean like an old faction desktop?
[01:05] <joseph> like a shell or something
[01:05] <joseph> I can only logout
[01:05] <joseph> and then I have all the usual options in the login GUI
[01:05] <xweb> joseph: where does logging out take you?
[01:06] <joseph> to the login
[01:06] <joseph> (where you type your user name and PW)
[01:06] <xweb> you might need to give your self permission to shut the system down.
[01:08] <xweb> joseph: I can tell you how but i will need to check it on my other computer.
[01:08] <joseph> another person had this problem in a forum I was reading and that person said i t was a bad install
[01:08] <joseph> I dont feel that is the case
[01:08] <mrksbrd> does anyone know how to activate the s-video port on the side of the laptop so I can watch dvd on a TV?
[01:08] <joseph> ok
[01:09] <nejode> joseph: you could try K menu>systemsettings>advanced tab>login manager and look around there
[01:09] <MrKennie> mrksbrd: what graphics chip you got?
[01:11] <xweb> mrksbrd: do "man randr
[01:11] <xweb> "
[01:12] <joseph> xweb: I am dual booting winxp 64 and Kubuntu 64 but in the Login Manager, the Boot Manager is set to 'none'.
[01:13] <joseph> xweb: does that sound right?
[01:13] <xweb> mrksbrd: i mean "man xrandr"
[01:14] <xweb> in kde?
[01:14] <xweb> joseph: in kde?
[01:14] <joseph> yes
[01:15] <joseph> should i change it to grub and see what happends?
[01:16] <joseph> I dont think that has anything to my prob though, but it still sounds weird
[01:16] <xweb> joseph: i dont think that setting works. but your in the right place to give your self permission to shut down the system.
[01:17] <joseph> but local shutdown is set for 'everybody'
[01:17] <mrksbrd> xweb: sorry i have an nvidea video card
[01:17] <xweb> you do know the 64 bit version lags behind  the 32 bit one in updates and support.
[01:17] <joseph> this is strange
[01:18] <xweb> I currently run 32bit linux on my 64bit computer.
[01:18] <mrksbrd> xweb: i ran the command....what did you need from the info or what should i be looking for?
[01:19] <joseph> yeah I would too, but I had to go with 64 bit cause I have 4 gigs of ram
[01:19] <joseph> kubuntu would only detect 3.5 gigs of it
[01:19] <xweb> mrksbrd: if you have nvidia use "nvidia-settings"
[01:19] <joseph> windows would only see 3 gigs
[01:20] <joseph> I will experiment
[01:20] <joseph> thank you
[01:25] <mrksbrd> xweb: where do i find them....I tried looking in display manager & nothing about a s-video
[01:25] <xweb> you need to have some thing attache for it to show up.
[01:26] <xweb> it will show as a seccond screen.
[01:26] <mrksbrd> i have it attached to a 46" flatscreen via s-video cable
[01:28] <xweb> you could always set it up in your xorg config.
[01:31] <xweb> mrksbrd: this will tell you how to do it. http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/169.04/README/index.html
[01:31] <mrksbrd> ty i will check it out
[01:32] <xweb> mrksbrd: im a litte old fashioned. i always set up svid in the xorg file.
[01:34] <sean> hey, is it possible to shink a ext3 partion?
[01:34] <sean> shrink*
[01:34] <microchip420> hey guys, my kicker is screwed up, I cant change the background image, or even enable transparency
[01:35] <mrksbrd> xweb: not too good with editing some files yet
[01:36] <xweb> mrksbrd: let me take a look at how i did it. brb
[01:41] <elliott> ok, huuge problems trying tto ruun intrrrepid
[01:41] <mrksbrd> what is the command to get into x config file?
[01:41] <elliott> the wooorst being that   my    keyboard   has     stoopped workiiiiinng
[01:42] <genii> elliott: #ubuntu+1 for Intrepid Ibex please
[01:43] <genii> mrksbrd: alt-f2   and: kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf            may do it
[01:43] <mrksbrd> ty
[01:44] <elliott> i can,t,               i'm  ussiiiiiingg               the on screen keyboard and shift won't  work soo  i  can't     enterr the  plus     characteer
[01:45] <genii> elliott: click your mouse button when your cursor is over the channel name of #ubuntu+1
[01:45] <elliott> thaaanks
[01:46] <genii> elliott: Yer welcome
[02:08] <microchipv420> hey guys, i need some help configuring flash in konqureor. I'm lost.
[02:09] <genii> microchipv420: Post #4 here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=162313
[02:10] <microchipv420> ok, ty, brb
[02:10] <mu3en> still trying to enable suspend and hibernate buttons on the kdm login screen...
[02:21] <microchipv420> genii: hey thanks, that fixed it right up, any thoughts on how i can get java to behave as well?
[02:25] <mini-man> I installed kubuntu (on xubuntu, with sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, just wanting to mess around) but I ended up with KDE 3.x, is there a .deb for 4.x?
[02:26] <mini-man> nvm, kubuntu-kde4-desktop
[02:29] <Ahmuck> is there a way to start *untu in safe graphics mode?
[02:29] <Serva> Hi. Anyone knows here lisp?
[02:31] <xweb> lisp the programming language?
[02:31] <Serva> yes
[02:32] <xweb> that should have its own chanel.
[02:32] <Serva> I have few qns regarding the A* search I am doing
[02:32] <Serva> using lisp
[02:32] <Serva> xweb, that channel is like all hi-fi
[02:32] <Ahmuck>  /join #lisp
[02:32] <Serva> i am a beginner in lisp
[02:33] <Ahmuck> ah, ur low fi
[02:33] <Ahmuck> A* = autocad?
[02:33] <Serva> yes, very much
[02:33] <Serva> nopes, heuristic search algorithm
[02:33] <xweb> Serva: you trying to learn?
[02:34] <Serva> I am not exactly looking for an online tutor, just someone who could help me with few qns
[02:35] <xweb> dont know that language. if you need php, ruby, c++,java , im your man.
[02:35] <mattr> hi. where should I go to ask about what i think are some broken package dependencies?
[02:36] <xweb> shoot. I will help if i can.
[02:37] <mattr> i can't install libsvn-dev because libaprutil1-dev requires libdb4.6-dev but librdf0-dev (which I need for building kdesupport from KDE SVN) needs libdb4.7-dev
[02:37] <mattr> so apt-get wants to remove libdb4.7-dev and replace it with libdb4.6-dev
[02:38] <xweb> mattr: you mixing versions.
[02:39] <mattr> xweb: hmm? i'm on intrepid and i'm not using any custom repos, so i don't understand your comment
[02:39] <xweb> mattr: i see
[02:40] <xweb> use a newer version of libaprutil1-dev
[02:41] <mattr> would i find one in intrepid-proposed or should I just change debian/control and build it myself?
[02:42] <Level15> offtopic: anyone here knows a lot about AI methods?
[02:42] <Serva> tks xweb. :-) lisp is the first language that I am learning.
[02:42] <Serva> after english, and a bit of german of course.
[02:42] <xweb> Serva: how far allong are you?
[02:43] <Serva> 4-5 lectures
[02:43] <Serva> I know the basic structure surrounded by parentheses..
[02:59] <draik> I have narrowed down my SSH issue to my Dell laptop
[02:59] <genii> Damn Dells
[02:59] <draik> I have gotten my desktop and HP laptop to SSH into each other without an issue.
[02:59] <draik> genii: I know. I just couldn't turn down a freebie
[03:00] <draik> I also encountered an issue with Opera. I go to crucial.com and it freezes Opera indefinitely.
[03:01] <draik> I can't use FF3 because that freezes for 2-3 minutes followed by a 5-10 second window of usage.
[03:01] <draik> Konqueror just doesn't work for me.
[03:01] <genii> Probably their extensive use of flash is killing it
[03:02] <draik> genii: All of a sudden? I've gone to crucial quite a few times in the past without this issue.
[03:03] <genii> draik: The site works fine for me right now in ff3
[03:03] <draik> I'm on my laptop with ff3 and it works fine, but the issue is that FF3 lags no matter what.
[03:04] <genii> low system specs?
[03:06] <draik> Sysinfo for 'Lair': Linux 2.6.24-21-generic running KDE 3.5.10, CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.20GHz at 3216 MHz (6432 bogomips), HD: 539/766GB, RAM: 1299/3035MB, 130 proc's, 1.58h up
[03:06] <draik> Doubtful
[03:07] <Arlianin> Hiyas
[03:07] <Arlianin> i got a sad problem over here
[03:07] <Ryan_Rohypnol> Question...?
[03:07] <Arlianin> :/
[03:07] <Ryan_Rohypnol> does anyoen know anything about sound not working on Kubuntu?
[03:07] <N_GhT> Arlianin: What's your problem ?
[03:07] <Ryan_Rohypnol> it's not working
[03:07] <Ryan_Rohypnol> at all
[03:07] <Ryan_Rohypnol> i have No clue why..
[03:08] <Ryan_Rohypnol> i just got it
[03:08] <Ryan_Rohypnol> sound never worked
[03:08] <Arlianin> I am trying to open a .xml file and when I select the file an error appears. The error is:
[03:08] <N_GhT> Ryan_Rohypnol: Let me find a link for you, I had the same problem
[03:09] <Arlianin> The desktop entry file        /usr/share/apps/d3lphin/servicemenus/amarock_addpodcast.desktop
[03:09] <Arlianin> I am trying to open a .xml file and when I select the file an error appears. The error is:
[03:09] <Arlianin> The desktop entry file        /usr/share/apps/d3lphin/servicemenus/amarock_addpodcast.desktop
[03:10] <N_GhT> Arlianin: Sorry, I have no clue
[03:11] <genii> Arlianin: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dolphin/+bug/199393
[03:12] <draik> Opera has now stopped working with my MySpace account.
[03:12] <xweb> Arlianin: move  /usr/share/apps/d3lphin/servicemenus/amarock_addpodcast.desktop somewhere else.
[03:12] <xweb> Arlianin: is does not work anyway.
[03:15]  * draik can't wait till Christmas; 1TB HDD with a fresh install of Kubuntu 8.10
[03:17] <Ryan_Rohypnol> Hey everyone i wanted to mention <N_GhT> he is really nice have some respect for HIM!
[03:17] <xweb> N_GhT sucks... jk ;)
[03:18] <N_GhT> xweb is right :P
[03:19]  * xweb wispers to N_GhT sorry dude but you where stealing the lime light
[03:20] <draik> Has anyone had issues with SSH having a segfault?
[03:22] <limcore> draik: I did not,  but if you have one, then better report it to proper bug trackers.
[03:22] <limcore> also ask #ubuntu-bugs
[03:22] <xweb> draik: that sounds bad.
[03:23] <draik> limcore: Will do.
[03:23] <draik> xweb: How so?
[03:23] <draik> Other than it's a neusance (sp)
[03:25] <xweb> draik: i have used ssh on 6 different distros and it never segfaulted on me.
[03:26] <draik> It's awkward since it just happened last week out of the blue
[03:26] <xweb> in the news... it turns out that N_GhT is actuanly  awsome. xweb retracted his statement but could not be reached for comments.
[03:28] <xweb> draik: have you gotten the latest updates?
[03:28] <draik> Yes
[03:29] <xweb> draik: does it give an error.
[03:31] <draik> Yes; Segmentation Fault
[03:32] <MrKennie> dmesg
[03:33] <xweb> draik: i got nothing.  any one.
[03:34] <MrKennie> start with dmesg
[03:34] <draik> MrKennie: ssh[2436]: segfault 00000046 eip b7dcble9 esp bfe782e8 error 4
[03:35] <MrKennie> any errors just before that?
[03:36] <draik> Just other ssh attempts
[03:36] <MrKennie> try ssh -v host
[03:37] <MrKennie> see if anything stands out in the output
[03:42] <draik> MrKennie: http://paste.ubuntu.com/57704/
[03:43] <MrKennie> draik: ah right after you enter the password?
[03:43] <draik> Yup
[03:43] <MrKennie> draik: can you ssh into the box by other means?
[03:43] <draik> Nope
[03:44] <draik> I've tried fish, that didn't work either.
[03:44] <MrKennie> draik: hm, do you have access to the machine?
[03:44] <draik> Physically, yes.
[03:44] <draik> It's about 2 feet away from my desktop and about 6 feet away from my other laptop
[03:44] <MrKennie> draik: ok, check the logs on it
[03:45] <draik> Which?
[03:45] <draik> Sorry, how do I check the logs on the laptop?
[03:45] <MrKennie>  dmesg, /var/log/auth
[03:45] <draik> ok
[03:46] <MrKennie> sorry, /var/log/auth.log
[03:46] <draik> You want the log?
[03:47] <MrKennie> draik: I have had this issue once myself, trying to remember what it was.
[03:47] <draik> Ok
[03:47] <MrKennie> draik: if it contains nothing sensitive then sure, pastebin it
[03:47] <xweb> draik: have you tried sshing the other way?
[03:48] <draik> This is strange
[03:48] <draik> It appears that someone has been trying to ssh my computer all day
[03:48] <genii> draik: Yes, that is quite commeon
[03:48] <genii> *common
[03:48] <MrKennie> yup
[03:48] <draik> How is someone trying to ssh my laptop common?
[03:48] <NickPresta> draik, iptables, drop the IP
[03:49] <draik> Ah
[03:49] <draik> Let me get you the log
[03:49] <genii> draik: Because port 22 is well known port of ssh. So a lot of attacks trying logins there. Why it is a good idea to run ssh on some nonstandard port number
[03:50] <MrKennie> bearing in mind 99.9% are just bots
[03:50] <draik> Once I get this figured out, I may need help on changing the port
[03:50] <MrKennie> it's really nothing to worry about
[03:51] <draik> I have changed the name of my laptop to *LAPTOP* and user on the laptop to *USER*
[03:52] <draik> http://paste.ubuntu.com/57707
[03:52] <MrKennie> no ssh attempts in there at all
[03:54] <genii> Just cron jobs
[03:54] <draik> Strange
[03:55] <john__> pardon me.. warning.. dork question coming
[03:55] <draik> I figured the ones that are time stamped at 18:39 were my attempts.
[03:55] <john__> how does one go about find the version of kubuntu running on a system?
[03:55] <xweb> draik: have your tried restarting the ssh server.
[03:55] <MrKennie> draik: that's just cron, it's normal
[03:55] <draik> john__: lsb_release -a
[03:56] <draik> xweb: How so?
[03:56] <MrKennie> draik: is this log from the machine your are trying to ssh into?
[03:56] <draik> Yes
[03:56] <MrKennie> I see no ssh attempts at all.
[03:56] <genii> draik: eg: sudo /etc/init.d/ssh restart
[03:56] <draik> Ok
[03:56] <genii> MrKennie: Me either
[03:56] <MrKennie> draik: try what genii suggested
[03:57] <draik> That didn't work
[03:57] <john__> ty now for the newb one.. is there another way instead of the console?
[03:57] <xweb> draik: on the computer your trying to connect to do. $ sudo /etc/init.d/ssh restart.
[03:57] <genii> draik: Did it give some message?
[03:57] <draik> xweb: I did.
[03:57] <draik> genii: Yes.
[03:58] <draik> Just a moment while I get the error message on here. 3 lines.
[03:58] <genii> Probably that it wasn't already running
[03:58] <draik> Could not load host key:  /etc/ssh/ssh_host_key
[03:58] <genii> ;)
[03:58] <MrKennie> ah heh
[03:58] <draik> Disabiling protocol version 1. Could not load host key
[03:58] <draik> Missing privilege separation directory: /var/empty
[03:58] <draik> That's it
[03:59] <genii> When you installed openssh-server it should have made a key
[03:59] <draik> genii: I believe it should have as well. How can I get it to generate a new key?
[04:00] <genii> draik: Simplest is just purge and reinstall it
[04:00] <draik> genii: sudo apt-get remove --purge openssh-server && sudo apt-get install openssh-server      ?
[04:01] <genii> Yes
[04:01] <draik> On it
[04:03] <MrKennie> I think just removing all available keys and doing dpkg-reconfigure openssh-server will work too.
[04:03] <mu3en> anyone know how to enable suspend on the kdm login screen? is this a distro specific dead end for Kubuntu?
[04:03] <draik> Errors were encountered while processing: /var/cache/apt/archives/openssh-server_1%3a4.7pl-8ubuntu1.2_i386.deb
[04:03] <draik> E: Sub process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[04:04] <MrKennie> draik: try sudo dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/openssh-server_1%3a4.7pl-8ubuntu1.2_i386.deb
[04:04] <MrKennie> draik: you should get more info why it failed
[04:05] <genii> This might be why it failed install first time out
[04:05] <draik> Unablet o make backup link of `./usr/sbin/sshd' before installing new version: Operation not permitted
[04:05] <draik> *Unable to
[04:06] <MrKennie> using sudo correct?
[04:06] <draik> Yes
[04:07] <MrKennie> draik: are you running some sort of security software?
[04:07] <DarkShinigami> Nope
[04:07] <draik> DarkShinigami: Is my laptop
[04:07] <MrKennie> oh heh, I got confused then
[04:07] <MrKennie> ok
[04:07] <genii> If used purge then that file likely got wiped, nothing there to make abackup link of
[04:08] <DarkShinigami> remove sshd?
[04:08] <MrKennie> that's not /usr/sbin/sshd
[04:09] <MrKennie> its dpkg work directory of some sort. I don't know dpkg workings that well but it looks something like that
[04:10] <MrKennie> DarkShinigami: try sudo -i then dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/openssh-server_1%3a4.7pl-8ubuntu1.2_i386.deb
[04:10] <DarkShinigami> On it
[04:10] <DarkShinigami> Error
[04:10] <MrKennie> same?
[04:10] <DarkShinigami> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/openssh-server_1%3a4.7pl-8ubuntu1.2_i386.deb (--install):
[04:10] <DarkShinigami>  cannot access archive: No such file or directory
[04:11] <MrKennie> ah k, apt-get install openssh-server
[04:12] <DarkShinigami> Can't
[04:12] <genii> Was network attached when you set this machine up?
[04:12] <DarkShinigami> Yes
[04:12] <MrKennie> error msg?
[04:12] <DarkShinigami> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/openssh-server_1%3a4.7p1-8ubuntu1.2_i386.deb (--unpack):
[04:12] <DarkShinigami>  unable to make backup link of `./usr/sbin/sshd' before installing new version: Operation not permitted
[04:13] <MrKennie> and that is using sudo -i ?
[04:14] <DarkShinigami> yes
[04:14] <MrKennie> your prompt should be like root@foo:~#
[04:14] <DarkShinigami> Yup
[04:14] <MrKennie> pastebin dmesg output
[04:16] <DarkShinigami> http://paste.ubuntu.com/57718/
[04:18] <genii> I'm starting to suspect corrupted filesystem
[04:19] <DarkShinigami> :(
[04:19] <MrKennie> something definately isn't right
[04:20] <MrKennie> DarkShinigami: try dpkg --purge openssh-server and then try installing again
[04:21] <DarkShinigami> dpkg - warning: ignoring request to remove openssh-server which isn't installed.
[04:21] <MrKennie> ok
[04:22] <MrKennie> ls -l /usr/sbin/sshd
[04:22] <genii> If you install other things it will go out to internet to grab them?
[04:22] <genii> If so, delete the deb file and try install again
[04:22] <genii> Or mv it somewhere
[04:23] <genii> I had once in a while where a d/l breaks but it leaves a file remnant of the deb, then tries to install from that later failing miserably
[04:23] <DarkShinigami> MrKennie: I did that. This is what I got...
[04:23] <DarkShinigami> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 236456 2007-03-23 14:29 /usr/sbin/sshd
[04:24] <DarkShinigami> genii: Where would I find the deb?
[04:24] <MrKennie> DarkShinigami: lsattr /usr/sbin/sshd
[04:24] <DarkShinigami> su--ia------------ /usr/sbin/sshd
[04:24] <genii> DarkShinigami: in /var/cache/apt/archives/
[04:25] <MrKennie> DarkShinigami: chattr -i /usr/sbin/sshd and try to reinstall openssh-server again
[04:25] <genii> hm
[04:26]  * DarkShinigami crosses fingers
[04:26] <DarkShinigami> :(
[04:26] <DarkShinigami> Same error message
[04:26] <MrKennie> DarkShinigami: can you rm /usr/sbin/sshd
[04:27] <MrKennie> or better mv
[04:27] <DarkShinigami> I did, but I wil do it again
[04:27] <DarkShinigami> Sorry, I didn't do that earlier. Thinking of something else.
[04:27] <MrKennie> mv /usr/sbin/sshd /usr/sbin/sshd.bak would be better
[04:27] <DarkShinigami> I tried and it said that I cannot do it
[04:27] <DarkShinigami> rm: cannot remove `/usr/sbin/sshd': Operation not permitted
[04:28] <DarkShinigami> Yes, that was with sudo
[04:28] <xweb> stop ssh first.
[04:28] <DarkShinigami> How?
[04:28] <xweb> sudo /etc/init.d/ssh stop
[04:29] <DarkShinigami> sudo: /etc/init.d/ssh: command not found
[04:29] <MrKennie> DarkShinigami: killall -9 sshd
[04:30] <DarkShinigami> sshd: no process killed
[04:31] <DarkShinigami> What if I restart my laptop?
[04:31] <MrKennie> you can try
[04:31] <genii> Won't do anything for that
[04:31] <DarkShinigami> Ok
[04:32] <DarkShinigami> I will reboot, just to say I did it.
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[04:33] <MrKennie> I'm actually concerned it can't be deleted in the first place
[04:33] <genii> Yup
[04:33] <MrKennie> could be compromised
[04:33] <MrKennie> lsattr shows an empty set for mine
[04:34] <genii> Here too
[04:34] <MrKennie> maybe compare md5sums
[04:34] <genii> MrKennie: I'm suspecting as before corruption on either hd or the deb file it's installing from
[04:35] <DarkShinigami> Hello all
[04:35] <DarkShinigami> Let me try to reinstall
[04:38] <DarkShinigami> Same error
[04:38] <MrKennie> DarkShinigami: you runnng 64bit or 32bit?
[04:38] <DarkShinigami> 32
[04:38] <xweb> DarkShinigami: sudo apt-get clean.
[04:39] <DarkShinigami> Done
[04:39] <xweb> this will clear out all your old deb file
[04:39] <MrKennie> DarkShinigami: md5sum /usr/sbin/sshd
[04:40] <DarkShinigami> 77fc5d90723430d090144fcbaaacce7b  /usr/sbin/sshd
[04:41] <MrKennie> mine is f5e43bdf79235f04cfe09b2eb0e87a00  /usr/sbin/sshd
[04:42] <genii> I'm getting on Gutsy db1cedea5afb653eb0ab3ad24cb489b7  /usr/sbin/sshd
[04:42] <MrKennie> I'm on hardy btw
[04:43] <genii> OK lemme install sshd and check on this 8.04 box
[04:43] <DarkShinigami> ok
[04:43] <DarkShinigami> I'm on hardy, too
[04:43] <genii> f5e43bdf79235f04cfe09b2eb0e87a00  /usr/sbin/sshd
[04:44] <genii> I highly recommend boot to recovery and running fsck
[04:45] <jahbeez> hey all
[04:45] <MrKennie> yea, I'll second that. But I wonder what the additional attributes are coming from
[04:46] <DarkShinigami> Run into Recovery Mode and fsck the hd?
[04:46] <jahbeez> any 'nix networing gurus in here?
[04:47] <jahbeez> (networking)
[04:47] <NickPresta> !ask | jahbeez
[04:47] <xweb> what's up ( disclamer: not a real guru)
[04:48] <jahbeez> just wondering how ubuntu handles networking versus kubuntu
[04:48] <jahbeez> on a simple home network with shared folders
[04:48] <MrKennie> DarkShinigami: can you lsattr /usr/sbin/sshd again.
[04:48] <DarkShinigami> Sure
[04:48] <DarkShinigami> su---a------------ /usr/sbin/sshd
[04:50] <MrKennie> a shouldn't really be set on a bin
[04:50] <jahbeez> I've been using Kubuntu for a few years, and recently installed Ubuntu on my laptop
[04:50] <DarkShinigami> MrKennie: What do you suggest?
[04:51] <MrKennie> DarkShinigami: chattr -a -u -s /usr/sbin/sshd and then try mv /usr/sbin/sshd /usr/sbin/sshd.bak
[04:51] <jahbeez> and Ubuntu accesses shared folders/files much easier and can play/view them
[04:51] <DarkShinigami> MrKennie: Done
[04:51] <MrKennie> DarkShinigami: no errors?
[04:51] <DarkShinigami> No
[04:51] <MrKennie> DarkShinigami: install openssh-server
[04:52] <xweb> jahbeez:  you have a couple option. samba lisa ssh.
[04:53] <xweb> lisa is kde specific.
[04:53] <jahbeez> yeah, but do you know which uses which?
[04:53] <xweb> jahbeez:  i dont under stand?
[04:54] <jahbeez> my beef is that in Kubuntu, I can't browse to a networked computer and click on a media file to play it
[04:54] <jahbeez> but in Ubuntu I can
[04:54] <jahbeez> do they use different protocols?
[04:54] <DarkShinigami> MrKennie: Seems to be working :)
[04:54] <DarkShinigami> YAY!
[04:54] <MrKennie> DarkShinigami: whew!
[04:54] <MrKennie> DarkShinigami: if all is well then you can rm /usr/sbin/sshd.bak
[04:55] <DarkShinigami> MrKennie: Yup.
[04:55] <genii>  DarkShinigami: After installation dblcheck the sshd file again to see if it's md5 matches the ones from earlier or not
[04:55] <xweb> jahbeez: configure lisa in system-setting  it will provide the same funtionality. samba will work the same.
[04:55] <DarkShinigami> f5e43bdf79235f04cfe09b2eb0e87a00  /usr/sbin/sshd
[04:55] <genii> Good
[04:55] <MrKennie> yup
[04:56] <DarkShinigami> Was that it from before?
[04:56] <DarkShinigami> Not mine
[04:56] <DarkShinigami> It's the same as yours, MrKennie
[04:56] <MrKennie> DarkShinigami: both mine and genii's so you're good.
[04:56] <DarkShinigami> YES!
[04:56] <MrKennie> DarkShinigami: may I ask what you need sshd for?
[04:56] <DarkShinigami> :(
[04:57] <DarkShinigami> Segfault still
[04:57] <MrKennie> DarkShinigami: what I mean is are you using it just locally on your lan?
[04:57] <DarkShinigami> I can't ssh into my desktop
[04:57] <MrKennie> DarkShinigami: so now it doesnt work the other way?
[04:57] <DarkShinigami> Yes. Just for my 2 laptops and 1 desktop
[04:58] <jahbeez> I can't find and lisa configuration in system-setting
[04:58] <DarkShinigami> I can ssh from my desktop into my laptop
[04:58] <DarkShinigami> I can't SSH out
[04:58] <jahbeez> in KDE 4, but I went all through system-settings when I was running KDE 3
[04:58] <jahbeez> don't remember seeing anything there either?
[04:59] <MrKennie> DarkShinigami: look into ufw and set it up so it only allows your local netblock.
[04:59] <MrKennie> DarkShinigami: for ssh that is.
[04:59] <Omoikane_> I have a little problem with my Kubuntu install.
[04:59] <MrKennie> DarkShinigami: maybe the same problem?
[05:00] <DarkShinigami> Says that it's already installed and the latest on my desktop
[05:00] <MrKennie> DarkShinigami: sudo /etc/init.d/ssh restart on your desktop work ok?
[05:00] <xweb> jahbeez: are your using kde4 or 3 now?
[05:00] <Omoikane_> I turned on the computer yesterday only to have it ask for my password over and over again. The password is correct and I can log in via tty cmd ln but I really need to log via the gui. Any ideas?
[05:01] <jahbeez> 4
[05:01] <DarkShinigami> Yes
[05:01] <jahbeez> kubuntu 8.10
[05:01] <MrKennie> !ibex | jahbeez
[05:03] <jahbeez> I know, beta, but I've never gotten it to work in a few years of Kubuntu
[05:03] <MrKennie> DarkShinigami: first I would verify if your problem is still the laptop or not
[05:03] <DarkShinigami> I think it is
[05:03] <DarkShinigami> I can SSH into the laptop, but not out
[05:04] <MrKennie> DarkShinigami: try sudo dpkg --purge openssh-client and then sudo apt-get install openssh-client
[05:05] <DarkShinigami> It won't let me
[05:05] <MrKennie> error?
[05:06] <genii> If they were all from same CD install perhaps same issue with the openssh
[05:06] <DarkShinigami> Check error in PM
[05:06] <MrKennie> DarkShinigami: try sudo dpkg --purge --force-all openssh-client and then sudo apt-get install openssh-client
[05:07] <DarkShinigami> Ok
[05:07] <MrKennie> DarkShinigami: don't make the habit of using force-all btw. in this case I we can get away with it.
[05:08] <DarkShinigami> MrKennie: I have never used prior to today. I am used to sudo apt-get remove --purge PACKAGE
[05:08] <xweb> jahbeez: use samba
[05:08] <jahbeez> that's what I've been using
[05:08] <DarkShinigami> MrKennie: Ok. Back to square one with openssh-client
[05:08] <MrKennie> DarkShinigami: error?
[05:08] <jahbeez> but in KDE I can't just browse to a remote computer and play a file
[05:08] <jahbeez> is it the player or is it the protocol?
[05:09] <DarkShinigami> MrKennie: Check PM
[05:09] <MrKennie> DarkShinigami: sudo lsattr /usr/bin/ssh
[05:09] <xweb> jahbeez:  is it the browsing thats not working or the playing.
[05:10] <MrKennie> some players can't resolve things like smb:/
[05:10] <jahbeez> the playing, I can browse remote computers fine
[05:10] <MrKennie> most kde apps should though
[05:10] <DarkShinigami> MrKennie: su--ia------------ /usr/bin/ssh
[05:11] <MrKennie> DarkShinigami: sudo chattr -i -a /usr/bin/ssh
[05:11] <DarkShinigami> Done
[05:11] <MrKennie> DarkShinigami: sudo mv /usr/bin/ssh /usr/bin/ssh.bak
[05:11] <DarkShinigami> Done
[05:11] <MrKennie> DarkShinigami: then reinstall client
[05:11] <MrKennie> DarkShinigami: if it works remove the .bak file
[05:12] <DarkShinigami> LOL: No wonder I can't install right now; "insteal" is not correct (depending on context)
[05:12] <MrKennie> lol
[05:12] <DarkShinigami> Nope. :(  Same error message as first PM
[05:12] <xweb> jahbeez: audio or video.
[05:13] <DarkShinigami> Sorry, 2nd PM, not first
[05:13] <MrKennie> DarkShinigami: did mv'ing ssh work?
[05:13] <DarkShinigami> Yes
[05:13] <MrKennie> and it still complains about /usr/bin/ssh?
[05:14] <DarkShinigami> MrKennie: Check PM
[05:14] <MrKennie> oh my
[05:15] <MrKennie> DarkShinigami: for every file it complains about, you need to do the chattr -i -a thing to them and then back them up
[05:16] <MrKennie> this time it is /usr/bin/scp it will probably complain about /usr/bin/sftp too
[05:16] <DarkShinigami> Do it to scp?
[05:16] <MrKennie> yup
[05:16] <DarkShinigami> Done
[05:16] <DarkShinigami> sftp now?
[05:16] <MrKennie> yea
[05:16] <DarkShinigami> Done
[05:16] <MrKennie> retry install
[05:16] <DarkShinigami> Anything else to chattr -i -a ?
[05:16] <DarkShinigami> Ok. Reinstalling
[05:17] <DarkShinigami> Installed
[05:17] <MrKennie> phew
[05:17] <MrKennie> remove the backups
[05:17] <DarkShinigami> What backups?
[05:18] <DarkShinigami> Kinda forgot that step
[05:18] <DarkShinigami> SSH works
[05:18] <MrKennie> DarkShinigami: oh, ok no worries then
[05:18] <MrKennie> DarkShinigami: how old is this install?
[05:18] <DarkShinigami> :(
[05:18] <DarkShinigami> Now I can't SSH into it
[05:18] <DarkShinigami> Nevermind
[05:18] <DarkShinigami> That was my fault
[05:18] <DarkShinigami> Forgot to restart SSH
[05:18] <MrKennie> DarkShinigami: how old is the install?
[05:19] <DarkShinigami> How do I check?
[05:19] <MrKennie> DarkShinigami: well, how long ago did you install kubuntu?
[05:19] <DarkShinigami>  The actual install was from 6.06
[05:19] <DarkShinigami> I've just been doing the upgrades
[05:20] <MrKennie> DarkShinigami: ok. run sudo ssh-vulnkey
[05:20] <DarkShinigami> Ok
[05:20] <DarkShinigami> I have 2 Not Blacklisted keys
[05:21] <MrKennie> DarkShinigami: ok, run without sudo too
[05:22] <DarkShinigami> Ok. Same keys, but ending is root@*LAPTOP*
[05:23] <MrKennie> long as they show as not blacklisted you should be ok
[05:24] <MrKennie> DarkShinigami: I suggest reading this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Uncomplicated_Firewall_ufw
[05:24] <DarkShinigami> YAY
[05:24] <mrksbrd> xweb: u still here?
[05:24] <MrKennie> DarkShinigami: also as genii suggested earlier, reboot into recovery mode and do a fsck
[05:24] <xweb> yes
[05:25] <DarkShinigami> Is this the correct syntax: sudo fsck /dev/sda1   ?
[05:25] <mrksbrd> this damn thing isn't working again
[05:26] <MrKennie> DarkShinigami: you can also do sudo touch /forcefsck and it will do a fsck on your next reboot.
[05:26] <DarkShinigami> Do that now?
[05:26] <MrKennie> if you want.
[05:26] <DarkShinigami> I do.
[05:26] <MrKennie> :)
[05:26] <DarkShinigami> Done
[05:27] <DarkShinigami> MrKennie: Thank you SO MUCH.
[05:27] <MrKennie> DarkShinigami: I would also be tempted to investigate why your ssh binaries got messed up the way they did
[05:27] <DarkShinigami> I will have to cancel the bug. How should I end the bug report?
[05:27] <MrKennie> not sure actually, lol
[05:27] <MrKennie> you could just add a comment and say you solved it
[05:28] <MrKennie> I'm not sure if you can close it yourself, that's all.
[05:29] <DarkShinigami> Ok
[05:29] <MrKennie> DarkShinigami: I'm not sure how good rootkit scanners are but it wouldn't hurt to install something and run a quick scan.
[05:29] <DarkShinigami> I'll get to it tomorrow when I have time to record everything for the bug.
[05:30] <MrKennie> DarkShinigami: read that url I pasted earlier, it explains how to setup ufw, it's pretty easy really.
[05:30] <DarkShinigami> Sweet
[05:30] <DarkShinigami> Thanks. I will
[05:31] <DarkShinigami> Goodnight all.
[05:31] <MrKennie> nn
[05:31] <DarkShinigami> MrKennie: Thanks a million!
[05:31] <MrKennie> DarkShinigami: you're welcome.
[05:32] <DarkShinigami> Make it a million and one LOL
[05:35] <MrKennie> I'm still concerned why his bins got like that in the first place, but then, I'm paranoid. :P
[05:35] <microchipv420> heys everybody. for some reason, everything i download opens with kate, how can i correct this?
[05:36] <MrKennie> microchipv420: what are you using to download?
[05:37] <microchipv420> MrKennie: konqueror
[05:37] <MrKennie> microchipv420: it's most likely file assocations
[05:37] <microchipv420> everything from kde-look.org, for example, everything, even emerald themes open with kate
[05:37] <nicolas_> hi, im using kubuntu hardy and i want to install opensuse in the same machine without unisntalling kubuntu, creating a partition for both distro, how can i do it?
[05:38] <microchipv420> MrKennie: how can i correct the file association, is in konqueror only?
[05:39] <MrKennie> microchipv420: tools -> Configure Konqueror
[05:39] <MrKennie> sorry, settings -> configure konq..
[05:39] <nicolas_> noone?
[05:40] <microchipv420> MrKennie: ok, i will try, brb
[05:41] <Sifon> nicolas: You don't want to format the drive?
[05:42] <nicolas_> no, i want to keep my actual system as it is, and install suse without touching kubuntu
[05:42] <nicolas_> can it be done?
[05:42] <Sifon> Not to my knowledge.
[05:42] <nicolas_> creating a partition in my harddrive half for each distro
[05:43] <Sifon> Partitions have to be created at the begining, there's no way to splinter one as far as I'm aware
[05:43] <nicolas_> but when im installing kubuntu it let me install the distro without touching the sistem
[05:44] <Sifon> I believe it automatically creates the partition on the disk
[05:45] <Sifon> There's a tool called Hiro's boot disk, it has a partition editor on it, if you can create a new partition, that's probably your best bet
[05:45] <Sifon> download the .iso and give it a shot
[05:48] <microchipv420> MrKennie: are you still around friend?
[05:49] <MrKennie> microchipv420: sort of, was about to hit the sack :)
[05:49] <microchipv420> i need a little more help than i thought with correcting the file association issue
[05:49] <microchipv420> :(
[05:49] <microchipv420> okay, get some rest :)
[05:49] <microchipv420> ty vm for your help
[05:50] <microchipv420> can anyone else help me sort out a file association issue? everything opens with kate for some reason, even emerald themes
[05:58] <livinglegend912> hello can someone help me, I'm at installing linux
[05:59] <livinglegend912> hello
[05:59] <livinglegend912> someone help please
[06:00] <xweb> livinglegend912: what do you need?
[06:00] <livinglegend912> yeah I just installed the beta of ubuntu and it say install windows so I did that
[06:01] <xweb> was windows already installed?
[06:01] <livinglegend912> and I rebooted and its a dual boot so i choice ubuntu but it takes me to a dos promp
[06:01] <livinglegend912> yes windows was already installed
[06:01] <xweb> did you install window or linux first.
[06:02] <livinglegend912> windows
[06:02] <livinglegend912> and I installed linux in inside of it because that was a choice in the ubuntu
[06:03] <xweb> can you still get into windows?
[06:03] <livinglegend912> yeah
[06:04] <xweb> vista of xp.
[06:04] <livinglegend912> xp
[06:06] <xweb> have you tried reinstalling it.
[06:06] <livinglegend912> well it boots
[06:06] <livinglegend912> but i get no gui
[06:07] <livinglegend912> like i need to type something like sudo apt-get install unbuntu-desktop
[06:07] <livinglegend912> I just dont know what to typre
[06:08] <xweb> what does the prompt look like?
[06:09] <livinglegend912> it say a bunch of weird stuff
[06:09] <livinglegend912> its not like a dos prompt its like a ubuntu prompt
[06:10] <livinglegend912> it says something like User adminstrator "root"
[06:11] <xweb> xweb@mylinuxbox:~$
[06:11] <xweb> like that?
[06:11] <livinglegend912> yeah
[06:11] <livinglegend912> yeah
[06:12] <livinglegend912> how do i get to the gui
[06:12] <xweb> type $ startx
[06:13] <xweb> dont type the $
[06:13] <livinglegend912> i tried that
[06:13] <livinglegend912> and that didnt work
[06:14] <livinglegend912> said something like unknown
[06:14] <livinglegend912> i also tried sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop and that did something weird but didnt work
[06:14] <livinglegend912> i think thats for servers though
[06:15] <xweb> type $ ls
[06:15] <livinglegend912> 1s
[06:15] <xweb> LS
[06:15] <xweb> lowercase
[06:15] <livinglegend912> anything else?
[06:16] <livinglegend912> i have to restart my machine to try it
[06:16] <xweb> what did it do?
[06:16] <xweb> Oo.
[06:16] <livinglegend912> anything else you can tell me to try before i reboot
[06:16] <xweb> this is the problem. you need a network connection to install ubuntu desktop.
[06:17] <livinglegend912> why
[06:17] <xweb> the software is on the internet.
[06:17] <livinglegend912> i have the disc
[06:17] <livinglegend912> i downloaded the disc
[06:17] <xweb> it should have installed it. thats why i sujested your reinstall.
[06:18] <livinglegend912> it did but i just cant see the gui
[06:18] <livinglegend912> is there anyway to start up the gui
[06:18] <livinglegend912> like in that whole command promt
[06:19] <xweb> did you get an error when your typed startx?
[06:19] <livinglegend912> brb
[06:19] <livinglegend912> ok
[06:19] <xweb> k
[06:24] <mu3en> no ideas about this kdm configuration question? is it really that tricky?
[06:26] <xweb> mu3en: what was it?
[06:28] <mu3en> xweb, adding/enabling a suspend button
[06:29] <xweb> kde 3?
[06:29] <mu3en> xweb, yeah
[06:29] <mu3en> xweb hardy
[06:29] <mu3en> xweb, i can suspend from inside my session, but not in kdm
[06:29] <xweb> install kpowersaved and the powersaved daemon
[06:30] <mu3en> will that be safe for otherwise working setup?
[06:30] <mu3en> since i have working suspend, processor stepping etc... already working good
[06:31] <xweb> wait...
[06:34] <livinglegend912> web
[06:34] <livinglegend912> you there man
[06:34] <xweb> mu3en: have your tried $ sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm
[06:34] <livinglegend912> i tried ls and all it said was desktop in blue and took me back to the prompt
[06:35] <xweb> o you mean ls.
[06:35] <livinglegend912> what when I typed startx it said saw signal 11 server aboration
[06:35] <livinglegend912> or something
[06:35] <xweb> did it list a lot of stuff befor aborting.
[06:35] <mu3en> xweb, will try that first. i see kpowersave and powersaved are both NOT installed right now.
[06:35] <livinglegend912> yeah
[06:36] <xweb> mu3en: after you reconfigure logout and log back in and it should work.
[06:37] <xweb> we are look ing for lines that start EE thats the error lines. It is probably your video card is not set up.
[06:37] <xweb> what card do your have?
[06:37] <livinglegend912> web
[06:37] <livinglegend912> should I just reinstall
[06:37] <mu3en> just to check, xweb, the dpkg-reconfigure should not reintroduce the kubuntu specific faceplating?
[06:38] <mu3en> ahh well, at worst i can go back and rewrite the files again...
[06:38] <xweb> mu3en: are your using kdm or gdm?
[06:38] <mu3en> kdm
[06:39] <xweb> mu3en: what do your mean  faceplating?
[06:39] <xweb> livinglegend912: yes. uninstall it in windows first and pay attentions to the options while installing.
[06:40] <gkffjcs> is there a kde equivalent to the .hidden file used by nautilus to hid non . files?
[06:40] <mu3en> kubuntu references a file kubuntu_default_setting_60 or something similar to 'theme' the login
[06:40] <livinglegend912> should it boot right into the gui?
[06:40] <xweb> livinglegend912: this is a whole os not a simple app
[06:40] <livinglegend912> i know
[06:40] <xweb> livinglegend912: yesy
[06:40] <mu3en> to get control over it with kcontrol module, that all has to be overwritten
[06:41] <mu3en> anyway, i've logged out, and i guess it has not changed the theme related setup
[06:41] <mu3en> and, still only have options to shut down or restart
[06:41] <mu3en> so maybe i should try to install kpowersave and powersaved
[06:41] <xweb> mu3en: backup the file and restore it later.
[06:41] <mu3en> xweb, no worries i have backups of this all anyway
[06:42] <xweb> livinglegend912: that was a yes.
[06:42] <mu3en> xweb, will kpowersave, etc... remove the default power manager, and if so, is that bad?
[06:43] <xweb> mu3en: get the buttons working first. you suing kde 3 or 4?
[06:43] <gkffjcs> is there a way to make kde hide non dot files?
[06:43] <mu3en> kde3, xweb, completely standard from kubuntu hardy cd install
[06:43] <xweb> k
[06:44] <mu3en> xweb, ked4 is on another box, and that's  whole 'nother world of pain
[06:44] <mu3en> grin
[06:44] <xweb> make sure your using 4.1.2
[06:45] <mu3en> i'll go and check that box out as soon as i get this suspend thing working...grin
[06:45] <xweb> the one that came on the cd was like 4.0.1.
[06:45] <mu3en> hold on hold on, the kde4 distros are 'experimental', i'm using the official kde3 on this suspend in kdm issue
[06:46] <xweb> right.
[06:46] <mu3en> and on the kde4 box, i'm pretty sure i've updated with the latest kde4 bits 'n pieces
[06:46] <xweb> i was just pointing it out because 4.0.1 is so incomplete. Not that 4.2 is ready for prime time.
[06:46] <mu3en> but that's for #kubuntu-kde4...
[06:47] <mu3en> he he he, true true
[06:47] <mu3en> so on this kde3, i should try kpowersave...?
[06:47] <xweb> it was busy last night
[06:47] <xweb> sucks today.
[06:47] <xweb> do the reconfigure first.
[06:48] <mu3en> xweb, done the reconfigure, still only shutdown and restart after x restart
[06:48] <mu3en> so, no change
[06:48] <xweb> the log out and log back in and to see if the options show up.
[06:50] <metbsd> i wanna install and use kubuntu4 from a 2G usb stick, is it ok?
[06:50] <mu3en> logged out, restarted x server again, logged out, in, out restart x server, still only 'restart' and 'power off' under the shutdown popup
[06:51] <mu3en> gonna restart the machine and see
[06:51] <xweb> try $ sudo apt-get install powersaved kpowersave
[06:51] <mu3en> xweb, cool, it's already in the buffer, soon as the reboot confimrs this hasn't work
[06:51] <xweb> mmetbsd: it might be doable.
[06:52] <metbsd> how doable
[06:52] <xweb> mu3en: k
[06:52] <xweb> start here. http://www.pendrivelinux.com/2008/05/15/usb-kubuntu-804-persistent-install-via-the-live-cd/
[06:53] <metbsd> problem is i canot even boot into live dvd
[06:53] <metbsd> says SQUASHFS error: Unable to read page, block .. size f688
[06:54] <xweb> metbsd: did you md5 the dvd?
[06:54] <mu3en> it will remove apmd and powernowd
[06:54] <metbsd> how to md5 the dvd
[06:55] <metbsd> i can md5 the iso
[06:55] <xweb> mu3en: its a 1 for 1 replacement.
[06:55] <mu3en> commiting
[06:55] <xweb> powersaved does all of that on apm and acpi machines.
[06:55] <mu3en> cool.
[06:55] <mu3en> chunky package
[06:55] <xweb> just remember what your removed.
[06:56] <mu3en> and adept-manager gui says it's 'officially supported'
[06:56] <xweb> its the prefered kde3 power managment utility.
[06:57] <xweb> has a functional tray icon and switch power profiles auto or manual.
[06:57] <mu3en> strange it doesn't install by default
[06:57] <xweb> its primarily intended for laptop installs.
[06:58] <xweb> most desktop installs won't use all its features.
[06:58] <mu3en> i get it...
[06:59] <mu3en> is there a meta package for laptops?
[06:59] <xweb> laptop-mode-tools - Scripts to spin down hard drive and save power
[06:59] <xweb> ubuntu-laptop-mode - Support for reducing hard drive power consumption
[06:59] <xweb> the second one.
[07:00] <mu3en> cool, i'm rebooting now.
[07:00] <xweb> k
[07:00] <xweb> metbsd: yes
[07:00] <metbsd> plz tell me how, im on windows
[07:01] <xweb> the original md5 sum can be found on the ftp servers next to the iso
[07:01] <metbsd> i mean the dvd md5
[07:01] <xweb> the cd has a self check when you boot it.
[07:01] <metbsd> how to get it
[07:02] <metbsd> ??
[07:02] <xweb> start here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes
[07:02] <metbsd> how do i get md5 of a dvd?
[07:02] <metbsd> how do i get md5 of a dvd? so i can compare md5 of dvd to md5 of iso?
[07:03] <xweb> wait...
[07:04] <xweb> how did your download the dvd?
[07:05] <metbsd> no i didn't download dvd, i bought a blank dvd
[07:05] <rogan> hello
[07:05] <metbsd> i dl a live iso
[07:05] <metbsd> iso for live cd
[07:05] <metbsd> for kubuntu
[07:05] <mu3en> after reboot, the option is still not on the login screen..
[07:08] <mu3en> still just restart and power off
[07:08] <rogan> new to kubuntu have a few questions.. send me a pm if you dont mind answering a few ?s
[07:08] <mu3en> but this is a nicer power manager, so no worries.
[07:08] <xweb> what is the name of the iso.
[07:08] <metbsd> kubuntu-8.04.1-desktop-i386.iso
[07:11] <xweb> 957e8329f346543027a247b06cc58853 *kubuntu-8.04.1-alternate-amd64.iso
[07:11] <xweb> 5de105f1e2acb0a7019a636c98454e0d *kubuntu-8.04.1-alternate-i386.iso
[07:11] <xweb> e171680df385cf07e6dbe339b59f2999 *kubuntu-8.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso
[07:11] <xweb> e0b9861df26c54acfd62bf35abe859f6 *kubuntu-8.04.1-desktop-i386.iso
[07:13] <xweb> these are the md5 sums.
[07:13] <xweb> your should be able  to find a windows sum checker online for free.
[07:23] <mu3en> xweb, unfortunately, virtually zero change in functionality, except that suspend to ram became hella slower.
[07:23] <mu3en> despite the nicer interface
[07:24] <xweb> http://www.nabble.com/Kubuntu-KDE4--8.04-missing-suspend-hibernate-on-inspiron-9400-td17064408.html
[07:24] <xweb> it does a lot of check for different laptops features.
[07:25] <xweb> like vaios special powermangement
[07:26] <xweb> more reliable across different hardware but slower bacause of it.
[07:29] <freaky_t> :p
[07:29] <xweb> ;)
[07:30]  * xweb looks at freaky_t suspiciously
[07:30] <freaky_t> hello :D
[07:31] <xweb> hey!
[07:31] <freaky_t> im freaky_t and im on kubuntu intrepid ;D
[07:31] <freaky_t> Sysinfo for 'loopy': Linux 2.6.27-7-generic running KDE 4.1.2 (KDE 4.1.2), CPU: Intel(R)Core2QuadCPUQ6600@2.40GHz at 1603 MHz (4788 bogomips), HD: 90/611GB, RAM: 1101/3038MB, 154 proc's, 28.58min up
[07:31] <mu3en> xweb, good good call
[07:32] <mu3en> that applies, nvidia for me
[07:32]  * xweb nods approvingly
[07:32] <mu3en> i'll give it a try
[07:33] <frozzenfire> xweb
[07:33] <mu3en> though i don't use compiz
[07:33] <frozzenfire> did u ping me mate?
[07:33] <xweb> freaky_t: how you liking it so far?
[07:33] <frozzenfire> xweb: did u ping me mate?
[07:34] <xweb> sorry t thought i lost my connection.
[07:34] <freaky_t> it's cool there are just a few problems eg. when i rightclick on a menu item (kmenu) and press add to favourites it displays a default icon under favourites (some gear) also kdevelop can't compile programs says command not found and i've installed build essential someone said, it was because my libtool was broken
[07:34] <frozzenfire> xweb: np i was just checking if u needed anything... anyways back to studies now
[07:34] <mu3en> xweb, damn, server-xgl is not installed
[07:34] <freaky_t> and mp3s can't be played since a few days
[07:35] <freaky_t> but desktop effects and the nvidia driver are working ;D
[07:35] <freaky_t> also sometimes when i boot up my pc doesnt stop to beep i then have to restart it - then it works - i don't know it cant load some graphic buffers or smth. at boot time sometimes
[07:35] <xweb> there is gonna be a lot of breakage in intrepid leading up to the release as they hash out the final.
[07:36] <freaky_t> yea and when they release the final versions hopefully they get a lot of more bugreports so they fix my stuff ;D
[07:37] <xweb> you should definitly submit your complaints.  it would be a big help.
[07:37] <freaky_t> im too lazy
[07:37] <mu3en> web, but thanks for trying...i feel it's a bit of a black hole, and i'm not even sure if it's a bug, i just don't think it's a feature
[07:38] <xweb> lol
[07:38] <freaky_t> when is intrepid going to be released again?
[07:38] <xweb> freaky_t: just setup your pop email and install bugzilla.
[07:38] <xweb> oct 30 i think
[07:39] <freaky_t> ok 15 days
[07:39] <freaky_t> xweb: why should i install bugzilla? oO
[07:39] <xweb> it pops up when stuff crashes an makes a email to submit a bug report.
[07:40] <xweb> i think thats the right app.
[07:40] <freaky_t> apport does the same i guess
[07:40] <freaky_t> i keep getting "an application crashed" messages like kwin crashes on my sigsegv
[07:40] <freaky_t> *me
[07:43] <freaky_t> but when i try to submit it asks me if it is one of the allready reported bugs, but i can't know so i just leave it alone
[07:43] <xweb> i got them mixed up bugzilla is for mozilla
[07:43] <freaky_t> ;D
[07:43] <xweb> yeah that sound like a lot of work.
[07:44] <xweb> why dont you just report bugs on one app or utility. that would reduce the work.
[07:44] <freaky_t> what do you mean?
[07:44] <xweb> i know amaroke kde4 could use some bug reporting.
[07:45] <xweb> crashed on me 6 times today.
[07:45] <freaky_t> are u on intrepid?
[07:45] <xweb> play list no working well.
[07:45] <xweb> no but i do have the latest kde4.
[07:45] <freaky_t> im on intrepid and for me amarok can't play mp3 files says no demuxer plugin or whatever found
[07:46] <xweb> install lame
[07:47] <xweb> or the lates gstreamer.
[07:47] <xweb> do you have the medibuntu repos?
[07:48] <freaky_t> what medibuntu repos?
[07:48] <freaky_t> it should work
[07:48] <freaky_t> i installed kubuntu-restricted-extras
[07:48] <xweb> http://www.medibuntu.org/
[07:49] <xweb> what version of amarok do you have?
[07:49] <josh_> who? me (btw im new)
[07:49] <freaky_t> 1.4.10
[07:50] <freaky_t> i don't need medibuntu repos
[07:50] <josh_> why?
[07:50] <xweb> im using 1.92.1
[07:50] <xweb> it has plasma integration.
[07:51] <xweb> josh_: hey welcome to #kubuntu
[07:51] <josh_> it says 1.94.1 for me
[07:51] <josh_> hey hi!
[07:51] <josh_> good to be here
[07:51] <josh_> finally
[07:52] <freaky_t> xweb: i don't need it ;D
[07:52] <freaky_t> im happy with kubuntu
[07:52] <jmod> I'm loving the New Kubuntu 8.10 KDE 4.1
[07:52] <xweb> josh_: are you having trouble getting dynamic playlists to work right?
[07:52] <freaky_t> jmod: yea it's cool :D
[07:52] <josh_> never tryed it. hang on brb
[07:52] <jmod> frickin rocks
[07:52] <freaky_t> i just don't like the window decorations and i have no desktop-effect for windowing/maximizing windows :(
[07:53] <xweb> freaky_t: medibuntu is no another distro. it provides stuff like mp3 support that was take out of the official release.
[07:53] <josh_> no mine is cool play's real nice
[07:53] <freaky_t> oh cool wait
[07:53] <josh_> i have medibuntu.
[07:53] <josh_> yays
[07:54] <dianne> Hi, I've got a new laptop (Dell Vostro) and I'm trying to get the wireless networking happening. I've followed the instructions athttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Hardy andhttp://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/b43 but still nothing... and I'm new to wireless networking
[07:54] <Reed_Solomon> hum
[07:54] <Reed_Solomon> so the driver isn't loading
[07:55] <dianne> i don't think so
[07:55] <jmod> Medibuntu uh never heard of that
[07:55] <josh_> not supported yet maybe?
[07:55] <xweb> http://ubuntu.cafuego.net/
[07:55] <dianne> i keep getting an error that it parse the XML
[07:55] <xweb> pre pakaged b43 drivers
[07:55] <jmod> I see beta?
[07:55] <xweb> dianne:  http://ubuntu.cafuego.net/
[07:56] <josh_> dianne: which model of Vostro
[07:56] <freaky_t> xweb: i've added the repos
[07:56] <josh_> 1000, 2510, etc
[07:56] <freaky_t> xweb: still no demux plugin found
[07:56] <xweb> refresh and enjoy
[07:56] <dianne> 1000
[07:57] <josh_> cool thx.
[07:57] <xweb> freaky_t: are you using adept_manager
[07:57] <freaky_t> no im using the command line
[07:57] <freaky_t> apt-get
[07:57] <xweb> freaky_t: apt-get update
[07:57] <freaky_t> did taht
[07:57] <freaky_t> ;p
[07:57] <xweb> apt-get install win32-codecs
[07:57] <freaky_t> can i list only those files in the medibuntu repos in adept_manager?
[07:58] <freaky_t> did that
[07:58] <xweb> not sure.
[07:58] <josh_> ok from wat i can see here the wireless is an external device eg usb dongle is this true?
[07:58] <dianne> not in the laptop
[07:58] <josh_> so is the wireless builtin?
[07:58] <dianne> it's an internal broadcom
[07:58] <dianne> yeah
[07:58] <josh_> cool
[07:58] <xweb> dianne: did you check out the b43xx drivers link?
[07:59] <Reed_Solomon> well the question is, is the driver being loaded?  Where is the xml error coming from
[07:59] <Reed_Solomon> if the driver is loaded, the problem is with a script somewhere
[07:59] <Reed_Solomon> network manager or whatever
[08:00] <Reed_Solomon> as far as i can fathom
[08:00] <mrksbrd> dianne: do you need the driver?
[08:01] <dianne> xweb: i think that's the one at "linux Wireless" isn't it?
[08:01] <dianne> mrksbrd: i don't know exactly what i need at the moment
[08:01] <dianne> I've done a tail |dmesg
[08:01] <mrksbrd> did u install ndiswrapper yet?
[08:02] <dianne> and i get something about the firmware is too new
[08:02] <Reed_Solomon> ah
[08:02] <xweb> dianne: i have had 3 laptop including the one im using that user these driver
[08:03] <mrksbrd> dianne: have u installed ndiswrapper?
[08:03] <freaky_t> why do i have 3 package manager installed
[08:04] <xweb> which ones.
[08:04] <xweb> freaky_t: synaptic will let you list only packages from a specific repo.
[08:05] <freaky_t> hm, thanks
[08:06] <jmod> I am having one problem though I can't seem to get my ntfs drive to mount any more and that's where i keep my music any Ideas?
[08:07] <jmod> is dolphin the problem?
[08:07] <mrksbrd> jmod: do u have ntfs-3g installed?
[08:08] <jmod> humm don't know I'll check
[08:09] <mrksbrd> goto adept and search it, if checked already it is installed
[08:09] <bentob0x> hi
[08:09] <bentob0x> is 8.10 beta is stable enough to use it on an everyday basis?
[08:10] <mrksbrd> never made it past install
[08:10] <bentob0x> assuming that if I install it today, on the 30th it'll update to the full version
[08:10] <bentob0x> k might skip that one then
[08:10] <mrksbrd> yes
[08:11] <mrksbrd> i don't like the feel of kde 4, not sure if i will ever update
[08:13] <jmod> Looks like I didn't have that installed so i'm going to install NTFS Configuration tool and MountManager what do you think?
[08:15] <mu3en> kubuntu.org
[08:15] <mrksbrd> just try ntfs-3g, should install everything u need
[08:18] <vikku> Hi all
[08:18] <vikku> My konqueror is crashing time and again http://pastebin.com/f50b4a532
[08:18] <vikku> thats the backtrace
[08:18] <vikku> any suggestions pls
[08:19] <jmod> "ntfs-3g" isn't an option but NTFS Configuration tool "ntfs-config" is that's what Adept is telling me they redid thee apt in 8.10 I think anyway thanks
[08:22] <MariachiElf> Anyone have any experience with xinit failing even in "Safe Graphics" mode
[08:22]  * MariachiElf is trying to install on Microsoft Virtual PC 2007 under Windows Vista Ultimate
[08:23] <mrksbrd> oh didn't know u were using 8.10
[08:24] <jmod> yeah I said it earlyer sorry for leaving that out
[08:24] <dianne> i didn't know 8.1 was out yet
[08:24] <jmod> it's in beta
[08:24] <dianne> beta?
[08:24] <baudthief> I have a folder named "--inrtest" that I'm trying to rename via shell, but the command keeps interpreting the double dashes as switches
[08:24] <dianne> kk
[08:24] <jmod> yeah
[08:25] <mrksbrd> MariachiElf: windows is your prob
[08:25] <baudthief> how do I escape dashes?
[08:25] <mrksbrd> oh ok....didn't see that earlier.....my fault
[08:25] <jmod> just testing it, seems ok so far
[08:25] <jmod> no prob
[08:25] <dianne> kde4.1?
[08:25] <jmod> yeah
[08:25] <mrksbrd> dianne: stil in beta
[08:26] <mrksbrd> supposed to released @ end of month
[08:26] <dianne> and i just got settled into 8.04
[08:26] <MariachiElf> mrksbrd: I agree -- but unless my need for Windows changes -- I'm stuck with it
[08:26] <mrksbrd> stay with it for a bit
[08:26] <jmod> yeah I did to but then I was like what the h*ll why not
[08:26] <mrksbrd> wine can run some windows apps
[08:27]  * MariachiElf is also going to try VMWare Server
[08:27] <MariachiElf> mrksbrd: It's more about being able to use the environment my end users use :)
[08:27] <mrksbrd> what r u trying to run?
[08:28] <jmod> hehe
[08:28] <MariachiElf> mrksbrd: Websites with ActiveX controls
[08:29] <jmod> yes i see I haven't got to trying that with this set up yet
[08:29] <mrksbrd> make them or view them?
[08:29] <MariachiElf> mrksbrd: I've thought long and hard and Windows is here to stay
[08:29] <jmod> muh.
[08:29] <jmod> meh.
[08:29] <mrksbrd> good luck especially with vista
[08:30]  * MariachiElf nods.
[08:30] <MariachiElf> Thanks
[08:30] <maurice_> moin ^^
[08:30] <mrksbrd> that POS os was my last straw
[08:30] <MariachiElf> If I can't make any headway with MS Virtual PC then I'll try VMWare Server
[08:30] <mrksbrd> almost threw my 1500.00 laptop out the window
[08:31] <jmod> yeah mine crashed hard I could even get it to restor and I said that's it never again!!! >?/
[08:31] <mrksbrd> k
[08:31] <MariachiElf> doh  - I'm out of time
[08:31] <mrksbrd> i know the feeling
[08:31] <MariachiElf> Need to head to bed
[08:31] <MariachiElf> I'll try back later
[08:31] <jmod> yeah same here
[08:31] <mrksbrd> g-night
[08:31] <MariachiElf> thanks all
[08:32] <jmod> night
[08:32] <mrksbrd> dianne: still there?
[08:33] <baudthief> Seriously, I cant believe nobody's had this problem before :P
[08:33] <dianne> yeah
[08:33] <dianne> xweb is helping me.. and my internet connection is slow
[08:33] <mrksbrd> did u find the driver yet & install ndiswrapper?
[08:34] <jmod> lol
[08:34] <mrksbrd> oh ok
[08:40] <lain_wired> Hiya all.
[08:41] <jmod> HI
[08:41] <lain_wired> I'm on a network with a Windows computer, which has a printer attached to it.
[08:41] <lain_wired> How do I use this printer?
[08:41] <jmod> I see
[08:41] <lain_wired> Sorry for being painfully vague.
[08:41] <jmod> uh ROFL
[08:41] <lain_wired> I'm not sure what information to supply.
[08:41] <jmod> um...
[08:42] <lain_wired> I attempted to add the printer to the list of available printers - however thr driver I needed wasn't present.
[08:43] <lain_wired> I used sane-find-scanner and it doesn't seem to see the printer.
[08:43] <xweb> there was a guy here asking about escaping a -.
[08:44] <xweb> who was that?
[08:44] <jmod> I know it's was ... brb
[08:44] <jmod> baudthief
[08:45] <xweb> thanks
[08:45] <jmod> yep that's him
[08:45] <jmod> np
[08:47] <mu3en> any one else have any ideas about getting suspend option on kdm login screen?
[08:48] <xweb> the login screen or the log out screen?
[08:48] <mu3en> login
[08:49] <julia> #liputon08
[08:49] <xweb> that has to do with your theme
[08:49] <mu3en> xweb, still not i guess.
[08:49] <mu3en> i can't see any options in kdmrc for that
[08:51] <mu3en> nor in kcontrol
[08:52] <jmod> !printer
[08:54] <dianne> xweb: it's worked THANK YOU
[08:55] <xweb> mu3en: i dont have it on the login screen in kde4
[08:55] <xweb> dianne: your welcome
[08:55] <mu3en> xweb, no, i think it's kubuntu wide
[08:56] <lain_wired> Hi again.
[08:56] <lain_wired> I'm using kubuntu, and I am on a network with several windows boxes. On of the XP boxes has a printer attached.
[08:56] <mu3en> xweb, but there is no real solution i can find, and very very few references generally
[08:56] <lain_wired> Kubuntu apparently can not see this printer, and as such, can not use it.
[08:57] <xweb> lain_wired: you need samba install.
[08:57] <lain_wired> That's funny, I could have sworn I had installed it.
[08:57] <lain_wired> *shrug*
[08:58] <lain_wired> Okay, got samba.
[08:58] <lain_wired> What now?
[08:59] <xweb> what windows printer do you have?
[08:59] <lain_wired> Epson CX3900
[09:01] <Saka_> hi all
[09:01] <jmod> Hi
[09:03] <lain_wired> Oddly, the specific driver for that is missing
[09:03] <lain_wired> sane still can't find the printer. :(
[09:04] <xweb> lain_wired: http://openprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Epson-Stylus_CX3900
[09:06] <xweb> lain_wired: you do know sane is scanner software?
[09:06] <lain_wired> Yes.
[09:07] <lain_wired> That's why I used it to scan for attached printers.
[09:07] <xweb> you attaching it directy to the linux box?
[09:08] <lain_wired> No, I assumed it would see them over the network, but judging by your question, I was wrong.
[09:10] <jmod> this is getting interesting!
[09:10] <lain_wired> IS it?
[09:11] <lain_wired> Also I've installed that particular driver twice and it does not appear in the list of available drivers, and to the best of my knowledge, Ubuntu can not see the printer.
[09:15] <xweb> how is the printer attacged usb?
[09:16] <lain_wired> Huh?
[09:16] <jmod> yeah and isn't atached to a WIN BOX
[09:16] <xweb> how is the printer attached.
[09:17] <xweb> then linux will never see it. just the print queue.
[09:17] <xweb> brb i need to check a box with kde 3 on  it.
[09:17] <lain_wired> Oh right. kk
[09:19] <xweb> kmenu ->system settings ->printers
[09:20] <xweb> add -> smb printer (windows)
[09:22] <jmod> what version of windows (xp 2000 yes!) is running on the computer that the printer is attached too?
[09:23] <Brydenn> hey guys, ... what do i need to do to manually change my name server permenetly to 4.2.2.1 ?
[09:23] <Brydenn> i dont want my modem to find its own as its hacked hehe
[09:23] <xweb> you mean your ip
[09:24] <Brydenn> no i mean the name server... or DNS server
[09:24] <Brydenn> whatever you wanna call it
[09:24] <xweb> on the internet right?
[09:25] <Brydenn> well ya to get on the internet
[09:25] <Brydenn> cuz if my modem trys to use my ISPs name server it wont get online
[09:25] <Brydenn> i'll juts get the "welcome to comcast" screen
[09:25] <lain_wired> jmod: XP
[09:26] <xweb> lain_wired: when you get to the screen that asks for the driver click other and point it to the ppd file you downloaded from that link.
[09:26] <lain_wired> I downloaded a ppd file? O_O
[09:26] <Brydenn> i think i remember someone teling me about a little "hack" you could do in the resolv.conf to make it so it never changed
[09:27] <xweb> lain_wired: http://openprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Epson-Stylus_CX3900
[09:28] <lain_wired> Yes, from there I downloaded a deb file. O_O
[09:28] <lain_wired> No ppd file though
[09:32] <xweb> lain_wired: have you installed the deb?
[09:33] <lain_wired> Yes. Twice.
[09:33] <lain_wired> wait!
[09:33] <lain_wired> haha missed an step
[09:33] <lain_wired> s*
[09:33] <lain_wired> a*
[09:33] <xweb> lain_wired: this is the driver Epson Stylus CX3805
[09:34] <lain_wired> It still can't detect the printer
[09:34] <lain_wired> Okay, just so we're clear, the driver is not an issue yet
[09:35] <lain_wired> I can't even SEE the printer.
[09:37] <xweb> lain_wired: kmenu ->system settings ->printers
[09:37] <lain_wired> Yes, and?
[09:37] <lain_wired> I did all that.
[09:38] <xweb> click add
[09:38] <lain_wired> I've done this, just before
[09:38] <lain_wired> It has PDF as the only available option.
[09:39] <xweb> realy
[09:39] <lain_wired> Yes?
[09:39] <jmod> reboot
[09:40] <jmod> jk
[09:40] <xweb> did you install cups foomatic and ghostscript?
[09:40] <sash__unreg> (pardon for crossposting -_- ) I have /dev/sda [ /dev/sda1, /dev/sda5, /dev/sda6, /dev/sda7 ]. What n in (hd0,n) would /dev/sda6 correspond to?
[09:40] <sash__unreg> GRUB's notorius for counting partitions the other way...
[09:40] <jmod> is the printer on!
[09:41] <xweb> lain_wired:  did you install cups foomatic and ghostscript?
[09:42] <xweb> sash__unreg: (hd0,5)
[09:43] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[09:43] <sash__unreg> thanks xweb
[09:43] <sash__unreg> hope you didn't miss :-P
[09:44] <lain_wired> yes, I did install those.
[09:52] <ActionParsnip> wow theres some chat in here, im amazed
[10:00] <mu3en> so, any ideas on how to enable suspend at the login screen?
[10:02] <ActionParsnip> why would you want to
[10:02] <ActionParsnip> suspend is a BIG pain in the ass to setup
[10:02] <ActionParsnip> and takes long to boot than a cold boot
[10:02] <jmod> well it's been fun good night all
[10:03] <Tm_T> ActionParsnip: 2 seconds up from suspend?
[10:10] <ActionParsnip> i dont use it but ive seen enough people moaning about it to know to avoid it
[10:10] <ActionParsnip> and how after coming back from suspend loads of stuff doesnt wake up
[10:11] <ActionParsnip> its just not worth the hastle and considering raid makes drive access faster, im sure i can wait an extra few seconds rather than bust my balls trying to get hibernate working
[10:17] <needhelp> Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/gutsy-security/main/source/Sources.bz2  Hash Sum mismatc
[10:18] <needhelp> hi why am i gteting this when doing apt-get update
[10:19] <ActionParsnip> needhelp: try browsing it in your favourite web browser to see if its there
[10:19] <needhelp> yep it is
[10:20] <ActionParsnip> needhelp: guessing by Hash Sum mismatc, its not downloaded correctly. try sudo apt-get update
[10:21] <sash__unreg> oh my. grub-install screwed up somehow and the kubuntu installer from the livecd died
[10:22] <needhelp> yup sudo apt-get update... that's how i get into this error
[10:22] <ActionParsnip> sash__unreg: surely you just need to install grub from the live cd
[10:22] <sash__unreg> yep, did so.
[10:22] <ActionParsnip> !grub | sash__unreg
[10:24] <sash__unreg> though it didn't install menu.lst - was left on my own with the grub command prompt after rebooting. After 3 attemts, managed to boot into installed kubuntu ^_^
[10:24] <ActionParsnip> sash__unreg: sweet move dude
[10:26] <sash__unreg> though, I guess, it's not the proper way of installing a home/n00b-oriented system
[10:26] <ActionParsnip> sash__unreg: its the best way to learn
[10:31] <sash__unreg> do I "trust" or "always trust" my mouse?
[10:31] <silson> I wanted to know when web apps like thinkfree save their java cache, how do I find it to clean it after I've decided not to use it after all (it's glacially slow) ?
[10:31] <atcc> hi guys.. does anyone know how to use eeepc asus with sony ericsson mobile phone as a modem?
[10:31] <ActionParsnip> sash__unreg: why would you not trust your mouse
[10:31] <silson> I tried this in ubuntu java but it seems to be avery quiet group :(
[10:32] <ActionParsnip> silson: do you mean coding?
[10:32] <sash__unreg> yep, but the bluez thingy asks about it =)))
[10:32] <silson> ActionParsnip  I'm not absolutely sure. Thinkfree says it has to save some stuff and then it loads
[10:33] <atcc> eeepc asus has a default os of linux.. i dont know if its a ubuntu version of linux
[10:33] <silson> I looked in .java but it's a complicated folder structure those Sun boys have there :(
[10:33] <silson> Ther eis about 50 subfolders in the cache
[10:34] <silson> I suppose it wouldn't really hurt to remove it all?
[10:34] <ActionParsnip> atcc: its sabayon based distro
[10:35] <ActionParsnip> silson: so you put what in that foldr, then what exactly loads?
[10:35] <atcc> actionparsnip: so what will i do to use my mobile phone as modem in my eeepc asus notebook?
[10:35] <silson> I'm hearing a lot about sabayon lately - never even heard the name last month - is this going to be the new trendy distro on the block :)
[10:35] <silson> It's afrench dessert isn't it
[10:35] <silson> Never tasted it mind
[10:36] <ActionParsnip> silson: its been around a while
[10:36] <silson> silson a java based office suite loads
[10:37] <silson> Well at least the component you choose anyway
[10:37] <ActionParsnip> atcc: id jump over to the #eeepc room or read the eeepcuser forum
[10:37] <silson> then it saves docs in the .thinkfree/temp folder
[10:37] <ActionParsnip> silson: you mean openoffice?
[10:38] <silson> silson no
[10:38] <silson> Maybe you should look at thinkfree.com
[10:38] <silson> I might not be explaining it very well
[10:38] <silson> Or maybe it's just hard to explain
[10:38] <silson> If you have time I mean
[10:39] <eyzee> actionparsnip: in the forum there's no topic that came up re: my probs
[10:39] <ActionParsnip> eyzee: then log a new post
[10:39] <silson> It's more like Google Docs actionparsnip
[10:39] <silson> But it's java based and has alot more features
[10:40] <silson> When it first loads it says it has to save something to the Java cache
[10:40] <ActionParsnip> silson: ive not used googledocs
[10:41] <silson> I assumed this meant to /home/username/.java/deployment/cache/
[10:41] <silson> But that folder has too many folders to search through so I was hoping someone was familiar with it
[10:42] <eyzee> actionparsnip: i think i'll do that tnx
[10:43] <silson> In fact it has 62 subfolders - which is a bit daunting :(
[10:44] <sash__unreg> rm -rf won't do the trick?
[10:44] <silson> actionparsnip is there no Java equivalent of?
[10:44] <silson> http://www.macromedia.com/support/documentation/en/flashplayer/help/settings_manager07.html
[10:45] <sash__unreg> damnit. that kubuntu8.10/kde4.1.2 looks so nice, it makes me wish to forget what I wanted it for
[10:46] <ActionParsnip> silson: im not that conversant with java. only got iced-tea on my 64bit rig to give me a plugin
[10:46] <silson> It does look good sash__unreg
[10:46] <silson> I will stay with Hardy for now though.
[10:46] <silson> ActionParsnip Java don't document themselves very well
[10:46] <ircleuser> hi guys, im using kubuntu hardy heron and this morning there were some autoupdates and i allowed them, then it asked me to reboot. result> i cant get connected anymore, i was using wicd for a wifi connection with a router and i had installed the cvs driver to replace the rt73 that werent wrking, please help
[10:46] <silson> That's really annoying to me
[10:48] <silson> ActionParsnip: I'm new to Ubuntu/Kubuntu but I have used computers for a while and I like to get a mental map of where things are if you know what I mean
[10:49] <ActionParsnip> silson: the gentoo would be ideal for you
[10:50] <ActionParsnip> silson: you will know where everything is down to the file
[10:51] <silson> ActionParsnip  Idon't know that distro, although the name does ring a bell. I'll look
[10:52] <ActionParsnip> silson: you compile source from repos using emerge rather than downloading binarys
[10:52] <silson> ActionParsnip I have a really good map in my head of where things are in XP - it will take time to transfer that knowledge to a new system.
[10:52] <ActionParsnip> silson: it uses less bandwidth to download stuff but takes a while to compile a base system
[10:52] <silson> ActionParsnip  ah so I would decide more or less where to put things?
[10:52] <silson> That sounds good
[10:53] <ActionParsnip> silson: if you choose to
[10:53] <silson> I did want to get on this Ubuntu Bandwagon though :)
[10:53] <silson> I was just looking. They don't recommend gentoo for new users like me?
[10:53] <bazhang> gentoo not for first timers, and ot here anyways
[10:55] <silson> See I'm thrown. I am a linux newbie, but I like to think I've built up a sound general knowledge of how computers work and I notice there is asort of standard map for folder structure in Linux which Ubuntu departs from more than most it seems.
[10:57] <ActionParsnip> silson: most are standard in all *nix systems
[10:58] <silson> silson yeah I suppose I'm just expecting too much too soon. I just need to accept that I'm back to first base and start learning again.
[10:58] <silson> I will stick with Ubuntu cos I think it performs very well
[10:59] <silson> The rest is down to me to strt reading and relearning what I used to know on Windows.
[10:59] <bazhang> !lnw
[10:59] <silson> Hell I did it once long ago when I moved from Acorn to Windows so I can do it again :)
[10:59] <bazhang> also !rute
[11:00] <ActionParsnip> silson: i think it performs poorly but i use it for an easy life
[11:01] <silson> ActionParsnip I suppose it depends what you're after. I did notice how fast the Fedora 10 beta boots. That is really fast.
[11:01] <ActionParsnip> silson: exactly. thats why there is no BEST version of linux as everyones needs are different
[11:01] <silson> Ok I'll start reading those guides
[11:02] <ActionParsnip> silson: you can speed it up by sacking off metacity and using fluxbox
[11:03] <silson> ActionParsnip  I looked at Fluxbox when I tried Vector - good distro - shame he can't decide whether it's free or not - keeps chaging his mind it seems :(
[11:03] <ActionParsnip> silson: fluxbox is a window manager, not a distro
[11:04] <silson> ActionParsnip No it's just that Vector uses Flux by default - so does DSL it seems
[11:04] <silson> Actually Vector might use Enlightenment
[11:04] <ActionParsnip> silson: many do, i think its awesome
[11:04] <silson> Anyway it was very fast
[11:05] <ActionParsnip> silson: i run it on my kubuntu as I think kwin is horrific
[11:05] <silson> ActionParsnip  yeah I'm not sure of the KDE win manager
[11:05] <silson> I may move to Xfce
[11:06] <ActionParsnip> silson: same kida deal
[11:06] <silson> I have installed it this morning actually
[11:06] <silson> I like Xfce it's simple like me LOL
[11:06] <silson> Can I still say I use Kubuntu if I don't use the normal mamager/desktop
[11:07] <silson> Won't it make asking for help harder if I don't run the defaults?
[11:08] <silson> Sorry I'm firing off tooo many judgement questions. I'll read and think on it - thanks for you suggestions ActionParsnip!
[11:09] <ActionParsnip> silson: np man
[11:09] <ActionParsnip> silson: research is the answer to all question
[11:10] <silson> yep
[11:11] <silson> Well I'll be back when I know enough to help someone else - or when I get really stuck - lets hope it's the first one!
[11:11] <silson> Seeya!
[11:22] <SkEmO> o.o
[11:35] <pwb> i have just put wubi on my pc to download and open windows programs do I install wine on windows or linux
[11:44] <ircleuser> hi everytime i reboot it stops, can someone help
[12:09] <rogan> so how do you open a rar file that wont open :(???
[12:10] <rogan> have a 40 gig rar file that i cant open
[12:11] <dr_willis> unrar x whatever.rar      perhaps?
[12:12] <dr_willis> Or try winrar.exe in wine and see if it can fix it
[12:14] <rogan> ill try winrar but unrar gives me an error
[12:15] <dr_willis> could be the rar file is currupted
[12:15] <rogan> hope not
[12:15] <rogan> i would prob cry
[12:16] <dr_willis> Theres a reason multipart-rar and par files were invented...:)
[12:18] <eagles0513875> !xorg
[12:32] <ilokaasu> Anyone know how to solve this problem: When using "intel" display driver the laptops screen goes blank and picture comes out from vga port _only_. Xorg.0.log fills up with intel(0): underrun on pipe B!
[12:35] <kerry_> hello
[12:36] <dr_willis> !hi
[12:36] <kerry_> >thanks
[12:36] <bartolo> hola
[12:36] <kerry_> can anybody help me with kubuntu
[12:37] <dr_willis> !ask
[12:37] <kerry_> ummmmm
[12:37] <kerry_> my kubuntu is all messed up
[12:38] <kerry_> and i don t know how to fix it
[12:39] <Rioting_pacifist> does anybody know where to look to find out about firefox-qt?
[12:39] <dr_willis> kerry_,  you should tell the channel what the problem is, and how it happened.
[12:40] <dr_willis> Rioting_pacifist,  last i heard about that.. it was rather poorly done. I would have to say hit Google.
[12:41] <kerry_> well the cube thing doesn t want to work anymore
[12:42] <dr_willis> I dont consider the cube not working to  be the same level as 'all messed up' :)
[12:42] <kerry_> ok sorry
[12:44] <kerry_> but can you help me fix it ?
[12:44] <kerry_> can you tell me how to reinstal the cube thing?
[12:44] <dr_willis> I normally turn off all the compiz stuff..  you must have your 3d drivers installed properly for it to work, then yoiu just enable compiz
[12:44] <Rioting_pacifist> google seams to be sending me round in outdated circles (often not even about the new port) think ill just compile it from the hg tree and hope for the best
[12:45] <dr_willis> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion
[12:45] <dr_willis> You dont reinstall the cube.. you enable compiz :) and enavble the cube plugin
[12:46] <dr_willis> i hope you are not trying to use the cube in KDE4
[12:46] <kerry_> wat is KDE4?
[12:47] <dr_willis> !kde4
[12:47] <dr_willis> the next kde.
[12:48] <kerry_> should i download it ?
[12:48] <dr_willis> If you dont even know what it is.. i would say no.
[12:48] <dr_willis> Unless you want to test it out.
[12:48] <dr_willis> its the next release of kde. with a lot of big changes.
[12:48] <dr_willis> and its very much a work in progress
[12:48] <kerry_> oh it the next version of kubuntu
[12:49] <kerry_> ok i understand
[12:49] <dr_willis> kde4 is the next version of KDE, it will be included in the next release of Kubuntu
[12:49] <keyzek> hi evry1
[12:50] <keyzek> i have problem
[12:50] <keyzek> a have mp3 and i can't run this file
[12:50] <eagles0513875> !ask | keyzek
[12:50] <eagles0513875> morning dr_willis
[12:52] <keyzek> where i find drivers to play mp3 ?
[12:53] <dr_willis> !mp3
[12:53] <dr_willis> Depends on the player, You may want to isntall the 'kubuntu-restricted-extras' package - it sould grab them
[12:55] <rogan> hey willis
[12:56] <dr_willis> Hmm
[12:56] <keyzek> thx :)
[12:56] <rogan> wine > winzip  cured my "corupted" rar file
[12:58] <dr_willis> i tend to use winzip a lot with wine. :)
[12:58] <dr_willis> or winrar
[13:01] <rogan> ..
[13:01] <rogan> hah
[13:02] <Nasj> :p
[13:03] <eagles0513875> KDE4 FTW
[13:05] <liquidat> Wtf?
[13:06] <dr_willis> And here i though ti twas my irc client..
[13:06] <liquidat> ;)
[13:08] <dr_willis> !appdb
[13:08] <bstandre> morning kubuntu users
[13:09] <liquidat> !me
[13:09] <Nasj> kb^ :O
[13:09] <Nasj> lol
[13:15] <Serva> Hello. How do I check which packages in kubuntu are eating my precious hard disk space?
[13:16] <Serva> 14 mb free out of 29.6 gb left
[13:16] <liquidat> Serva: 29.6 gb is most certainly something else. Not the package, but generated content (log files, etc.)
[13:17] <Serva> I understand that but I want to free up at least 8gb's
[13:17] <dr_willis> i would check for .trash thats not been emptied and /var/cache the apt cache can get large also
[13:17] <Tm_T> Serva: first, do "sudo apt-get autoclean" and then see "du -ch / --max-depth=2"
[13:19] <liquidat> Serva: du -sh DIRECTORY shows you the space the directory needs. That way you can check all directories, starting at "/".
[13:19] <Serva> It tells me that my home has like 25gig worth of stuff lying over
[13:19] <dr_willis> KDE has that graphical thing that can show space used in a graphical maner also..
[13:20] <dr_willis> but i forget what its called. I dont think its installed by default
[13:20] <liquidat> So, Serva, go to your home, and do the same there: du -sh .
[13:20] <liquidat> Or, better, list all directories and check the output of them.
[13:20] <liquidat> for them, not of them.
[13:21]  * dr_willis suspects a lot of video.. or  trash that never got emptied. :)
[13:21] <Serva> dr_willis, trash gets emptied atleast weekly
[13:21] <liquidat> Serva:  The command
[13:21] <liquidat> du -sch --exclude=.. .*
[13:21] <liquidat> should help you.
[13:22] <liquidat> Called in your home directory it will check for all directories there, will exclude the upper dir '..' and will also show the numbers in a human friendly way.
[13:22] <rogan> i just converted from vista and i love it
[13:22] <dr_willis> I recall seeing someone that used the GUI as root.. and deleted a lot of stuff.. so it all went in roots trash.. that never got deleted. :) but its so,mtning to watch out for.
[13:24] <Serva> http://paste.ubuntu.com/57860/ here're the du-sh results
[13:24] <Serva> du -sch --exclude=.. .*
[13:27] <liquidat> Serva: 25G     .strigi
[13:27] <liquidat> I think that is the problem - strigi fills up the hard disk.
[13:27] <liquidat> Crazy...
[13:27] <dr_willis> I recall hearing of that bug.
[13:27] <liquidat> For now, kill strigi (Ctrl+Esc, pick strigi, kill it), delete the directory, and report the problem to the KDE guys.
[13:28] <liquidat> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/strigi/+bug/256339
[13:28] <liquidat> Seems to be the same.
[13:29] <liquidat> Actually, that is just a dup, the real bug is here:
[13:29] <liquidat> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/strigi/+bug/227280
[13:33] <Serva> yay! 24.7 gigs freed
[13:33] <Nasj> :P
[13:33] <Serva> danke everyone
[13:33] <Tm_T> awww
[13:33] <Serva> any more known bugs, which like to eat space?
[13:34] <dr_willis> Thats amost as much space as Windows 'system recovery' wants to use.. :)
[13:35] <Serva> how do you write like *Serva nods on the channel
[13:35] <Serva> with the /
[13:36]  * dr_willis dosent know
[13:36] <dr_willis> :)
[13:36]  * Nasj doesnt know either
[13:36]  * dr_willis likes to use the /me command
[13:36] <Serva> o_O
[13:36] <Nasj> :p
[13:36]  * dr_willis burps
[13:36]  * Serva laughs
[13:36]  * Nasj farts
[13:37]  * Linux4Armpits starts a small fire
[13:37]  * rogan ./camp
[13:37]  * Nasj is planning to start with linux
[13:37]  * dr_willis starts singing campfire sonts
[13:37]  * dr_willis starts singing campfire songs
[13:37] <Tm_T> stop
[13:37]  * Nasj stops
[13:40] <gaetano> ciao a tutti
[13:40] <gaetano> !list
[13:40] <Tm_T> gaetano: mansikkatutti?
[13:41] <riccardo_> buongiorno a tutti
[13:41] <riccardo_> posso chiedere aiuto?
[13:41] <Tm_T> riccardo_: tutti suuhun ja menoksi
[13:41] <Tm_T> !it | riccardo_
[13:42] <riccardo_> sorry
[13:42] <Tm_T> np
[13:42] <rogan> lol
[13:45] <matisse> hi
[13:46] <rogan> hi
[13:46] <matisse> is there a mini program for the kde task line which shows my internet traffic ?
[13:49] <matisse> (is it actually called task line ?)
[13:49] <Tm_T> matisse: panel you mean?
[13:49] <matisse> yeah
[13:49] <Tm_T> matisse: and yes there is, if you talk about KDE3
[13:49] <matisse> task panel
[13:49] <matisse> yes, kde 3.5 is installed on my computer
[13:50] <Tm_T> matisse: then, knetstats - network interfaces monitor for KDE's systray
[13:50] <matisse> thx, I'll try it
[13:51] <anthony> KDE crash handler receive 1 of many <36 0xb5d1c0fe in ?? () from /home/anthony/.mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so>
[13:52] <anthony> any info on how to fix it
[13:53] <Tm_T> anthony: well we cannot help much with that, I afraid, IIRC Macromedia (?) Flash is very closed source
[13:53] <liquidat> !de
[13:53] <liquidat> Ha, funny.
[13:53] <liquidat> !wine|liquidat
[13:54] <Tm_T> !bot > liquidat
[13:54] <anthony> ok thanks Tm_T for a response back so quickly
[13:54] <liquidat> Nice one.
[13:54] <liquidat> Tm_T: Already got that, just wanted to know some basic working principles.
[13:54] <Tm_T> anthony: np, there might be something but nothing that I would know, except for using packaged versions
[13:54] <liquidat> But thanks anyway :)
[13:54] <Tm_T> liquidat: it's all explained in its own website, son
[13:56] <raju> hello guys
[13:56] <raju> i m new user of linux
[13:56] <rogan> howdy
[13:56] <anthony> no biggie just enjoy to learn all i can about linux
[13:56] <anthony>  and glad this is here for aqll
[13:57] <anthony> all
[13:57] <raju> in my computer i have both opreating systems windows and linux, and now i want to remove windows
[13:57] <raju> becouse it take lots of space
[13:57] <raju> what can i do for this
[13:57] <rogan> yes it does
[13:59] <MitsuoDeshoDesho> QTreeView.. is there any expandAll method?
[13:59] <MitsuoDeshoDesho> wrong chan
[14:04] <aleksi_> how can i add more desktops i tried to go configure desktops but even if i choose 5 desktop and klik aply and ok nothinbg happens
[14:07] <rogan> are you running compiz?
[14:07] <aleksi_> yes
[14:07] <rogan> fusion?
[14:07] <aleksi_> yes...
[14:07] <rogan> they dont mix
[14:07] <aleksi_> ....
[14:07] <rogan> like what you trying to do .. cube?
[14:08] <aleksi_> yes :P
[14:08] <rogan> send me a pm
[14:17] <ghoulsblade> hi, i want to capture a video of the screen while playing a 3d game, i tried gtk-recordMyDesktop but it got stuck during encoding , any good alternatives around ? something with a bit of gui would be nice so i don't have to write a 5-line command
[14:19] <EarthUsGod> gm all
[14:20] <rogan> sup
[14:22] <CQ> hi, i'm running 8.10 and trying to get firefox on the desktop... no problem with thunderbird and other apps, but firefox jsut allows a link and no copy...
[14:22] <EarthUsGod> any info on (nspluginviewer) from (SIGSEGV)
[14:24] <CQ> any ideas on how to fix this?
[14:28] <rogan> amarok wont start
[14:51] <Nasj> hi all
[14:51] <quassel251> hello
[14:51] <Nasj> ive got a qeustion
[14:52] <Nasj> I have 2 harddrives
[14:52] <Nasj> 1 with windows installed
[14:52] <Nasj> second one for storage
[14:52] <Nasj> is it possible to partion the storage one and run linux
[14:53] <Nasj> and dual boot kubuntu
[14:53] <Nasj> like that ?
[14:54] <cuznt> sure nasj
[14:55] <cuznt> i have that on my pc
[14:55] <cuznt> 40 windows
[14:55] <cuznt> 80 gis 1/2 storgae and 1/2 kubuntu
[14:55] <Nasj> ok good
[14:55] <cuznt> but i am dumping the windows one soon
[14:55] <cuznt> windows suxs
[14:55] <Nasj> ive got a 80gig windows
[14:55] <Nasj> and a 500gig storage
[14:56] <cuznt> read up on partitioning
[14:56] <cuznt> so you do not waste drive space
[14:56] <Nasj> yeah well i wanna get comoftorable with linux first before totally dumping windows :P
[14:56] <cuznt> no i understand
[14:56] <cuznt> i am 1 year into kde
[14:57] <little> Hey there, has anyone else done the linux-headers-2.6.24-21 updates today?
[14:57] <cuznt> and now can comfortably dump my windows
[14:57] <Nasj> ok :P
[14:57] <cuznt> yes
[14:57] <cuznt> i have not restarted yet though
[14:57] <little> Did it work for you?
[14:57] <cuznt> [09:58] <cuznt> i have not restarted yet though
[14:58] <little> I'm getting, "No suitable module for running kernel found" at boot and it hangs. I had to select 2.6.24-19 just to boot up.
[14:58] <Nasj> how do you mean (15:56:20) <cuznt> so you do not waste drive space ?
[14:58] <DexterF> why can't things just keep working after an upgrade for a change?
[14:59] <DexterF> god fscking damnit
[14:59] <DexterF> !scanner
[14:59] <little> Yeah, hehe, it's an LTS!
[15:00] <cuznt> i am not sure how to answer that Nasj
[15:00] <oo0> Hello
[15:00] <cuznt> but you want adequate space for linux
[15:00] <oo0> I need to know howto change my volume scroll to react slower on my laptop
[15:01] <DexterF> got an old scsi scanner here, Mustek Paragon MFS-8000SP, known to work alright and was fine in debian etch, Slackware 9-11, kubuntu 7.04, 7.10... now sane-find-scanners reports it on /dev/sg0 but xsane and others all say "no device"
[15:02] <Nasj> I am sorry cuznt but english isnt my native language
[15:02] <oo0> I need to know howto change my volume scroll to react slower on my laptop!
[15:03] <cuznt> its ok Nasj
[15:03] <Nasj> adequate means sufficient ?
[15:03] <cuznt> just read up on partitioning
[15:03] <cuznt> and you will get it i think
[15:03] <cuznt> thats correct
[15:03] <Nasj> ok
 adequate means sufficient ? yes.
[15:04] <Nasj> well thanks for the help :D
[15:04] <Nasj> ill go read up on partitioning
[15:09] <dare> sombody Slovak Republik?
[15:13] <Davve> Hello guys
[15:15] <livinglegend912> were is the best place to get programs for ubuntu
[15:17] <oo0> I need to know howto change my volume scroll to react slower on my laptop!
[15:17] <little> The package manager (Synaptic in Ubuntu and Adept Manager in Kubuntu), Add/Remove Programs from the main menu, and then some external websites.
[15:17] <little> ooO: That might be in your BIOS settings.
[15:17] <livinglegend912> gotcha
[15:18] <little> So nobody else is having trouble with today's kernel update?
[15:18] <Tm_T> little: in Hardy that is?
[15:18] <little> Tm_T: Yep.
[15:19] <Tm_T> hmm, there should be trouble?
[15:19] <little> On reboot, I get, "No suitable module for running kernel found" and it hangs. I had to boot into 2.6.24-19.
[15:19] <little> When I do a search with that error message, all the hits are for VirtualBox.
[15:20] <little> I have VirtualBox installed, but I'm booting into Kubuntu Hardy Heron - not VirtualBox. It's strange.
[15:20] <liquidat> Little - when is that error message given out?
[15:20] <liquidat> You can certainly boot the machine, can't you?
[15:20] <little> liquidat: As soon as I rebooted after installing the kernel update.
[15:21] <liquidat> little: What means "as soon as I rebooted"? Where is that said? Right as the first message after grub?
[15:21] <little> liquidat: I get past GRUB and the system begins loading different components. The error I told you about shows up with a red asterisk next to it (everything else is white text).
[15:22] <little> liquidat: After the error message, the system continues loading other components (like NFS, etc.), and then it just hangs with a blinking cursor beneath all the text.
[15:22] <little> liquidat: I cannot boot. I had to boot with 2.6.24.19 to be able to boot.
[15:23] <liquidat> little: Nvidia or ATI card?
[15:23] <little> liquidat: NVIDIA
[15:24] <little> liquidat: The graphics modules are loading just fine.
[15:24] <liquidat> Is there a module name given?
[15:24] <BluesKaj> hola
[15:24] <liquidat> And the machine booting up is definitely not booting on a virtualbox, xen, vmware or pcvirtualmachine?
[15:24] <JillyBean> hola Blue
[15:24] <little> liquidat: No, the entire error message is, "* No suitable module for running lernel found".
[15:24] <biophysics> Hi all, I was wondering why there is _no_ IRC available in kopete-kde4 ?
[15:25] <little> liquidat: No. I am booting into Kubuntu Hardy Heron 8.04. I have VirtualBox installed, but it does not load on boot-up. I run it manually sometimes.
[15:25] <JillyBean> bio, maybe you just have to add the package.
[15:26] <Davve> Hello guys, someone know the command to show my IP?
[15:26] <JillyBean> little:  I always have trouble downloading and booting actual Kubuntu...I just download regular Ubuntu and install KDE.
[15:26] <rogan> whatsmyip.com
[15:26] <Davve> k, ty
[15:26] <BluesKaj> hi JillyBean...looking at the MOTD but there's no official release date posted for Intrepid
[15:26] <liquidat> little: However, the kernel modules for virtualbox might be loaded right at the start. How about removing virtualbox and trying to restart again?
[15:26] <little> liquidat: Someone else has a problem with this update, but it's different from mine: http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3098258.0
[15:27] <JillyBean> Blue,  I think it's October 31...is the actual release date for 8.10
[15:27] <little> liquidat: Can I remove VirtualBox while in 2.6.24-19? And will that affect the new kernel when I try to boot it?
[15:27] <BluesKaj> thx JillyBean
[15:28] <JillyBean> Blue, sure. :) At least I knew the answer to that question.
[15:28] <JillyBean> You should just be able to upgrade 8.04 to 8.10 once it's released. That's my plan
[15:29] <liquidat> little: Sure, you can remvoe it if it's not running.
[15:29] <BluesKaj> JillyBean:  hehe , you'll learn soon enuff :)
[15:29] <little> liquidat: Okay, thanks, I'll try that. Do you think, if it works, I can try reinstalling it once I successfully boot with the new kernel?
[15:29] <JillyBean> Blue, that's the plan. :)
[15:30] <oo0> I need to know howto change my volume scroll to react slower on my laptop!
[15:31] <liquidat> little: Depends a bit on how you installed it, but usually there is a way to simply rebuild the modules once you are booted up.
[15:31] <liquidat> So, reinstalling should be fine.
[15:32] <little> liquidat: I grabbed it from the package manager, so it would be an easy reinstall. Thanks! I have to go somewhere right now, but I'll try your suggestion when I get back, and come back in here and report how it went in case anyone else is having the same issue.
[15:33]  * little hugs liquidat
[15:33] <oo0> how to kill a window
[15:33] <oo0> how to kill a window
[15:33] <liquidat> little: Good luck :)
[15:33] <little> liquidat: Thanks. (:
[15:33] <oo0> how to kill a window
[15:33] <JillyBean> ooO : click the little x in the corner.
[15:33] <oo0> lol
[15:33] <oo0> it dosn't work!
[15:34] <JillyBean> Oh...I just ps -aux | grep <progname>
[15:34] <JillyBean> get the pid and then "kill pid"
[15:34] <JillyBean> Though there may be an easier way.  I'm not very used to linux just yet
[15:34] <oo0> ok
[15:35] <genii> oo0: For the scrolling thing you might find some help here: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/9200
[15:35] <JillyBean> If just the "kill" command won't do it...you can kill -9 and that will force it to quit
[15:36] <genii> oo0: To forcibly kill a window, ctrl-alt-esc    then put the X on the offensive window and click.
[15:36] <JillyBean> I love having a nice terminal window to do things in. :) Windows sucks sooo bad.
[15:36] <JillyBean> genli: see I knew there was an easier way!! :)
[15:37] <genii> JillyBean: There's always more than one way :)
[15:37] <oo0> what?? genii
[15:37] <oo0> dosn't work
[15:37] <JillyBean> genli: Indeed.
[15:38] <oo0> what?
[15:38] <genii> oo0: Then you will need to do it from the commandline.    sudo killall <name of application the window belongs to>
[15:39] <oo0> ok
[15:40] <JillyBean> afk
[15:43] <Davve> Hello agan guys :D How do u check my mac adress?
[15:45] <Davve> Nvm, found it
[15:46] <rogan> what ya workin on there davve
[15:47] <dioliquiano> hi there
[15:47] <dioliquiano> anyone?
[15:47] <dioliquiano> ctc?
[15:47] <JillyBean> hello
[15:51] <martin__> hll
[15:51] <martin__> HELLOOOOOOO
[15:51] <genii> dioliquiano: If you have some question, best just to ask the channel and see if there may be someone with a solution
[15:51] <oo0> hi
[15:52] <genii> martin__: Yes, we see you :)
[15:52] <martin__> sorry
[15:52] <JillyBean> So what kind of laptop do you guys recommend?  I need a new one so bad!!!
[15:53] <JillyBean> It has to run Ubuntu though. :)
[15:53] <genii> JillyBean: The Lenovo Thinkpads work well with linux. Also most Toshibas
[15:53] <martin__> dell inspiron
[15:53] <genii> JillyBean: You might want to check out the reports from the Laptop Testing Team
[15:53] <JillyBean> I've been looking at the Dells.  Will check out the Thinkpad..
[15:53] <med> Bonjour tout le monde
[15:54] <JillyBean> genii...oh Laptop testing team...that sounds promising.
[15:54] <genii> med: Anglais ici, svp
[15:54] <med> est ce qu'il y a quelqu'un pour m'aider a installer ubuntu sur mon pc
[15:54] <med> j'ai le problème de l'ACPI
[15:54] <JillyBean> I have a macbook pro (one of the core duo machines) and it overheats any time I try to do any video encoding.
[15:55] <rogan> !fr
[15:55] <med> thanks
[15:55] <JillyBean> So I need a core 2 duo...and then I also have to have the nvidia graphics...I hate those intel graphics processors.
[15:56] <genii> JillyBean: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam
[15:57] <JillyBean> Oh awesome!!! thanks genii.
[15:57] <genii> JillyBean: You're welcome
[15:58] <JillyBean> I was going through the Dell ordering thing the other day (for fun)...I think you have to have money to actually order one. :)
[15:58] <JillyBean> But anyway, I tried the option with the pre-installed ubuntu and it said it would take an entire month for them to get it here.
[15:58] <JillyBean> I'm not liking that idea.
[15:58] <genii> Dell is linux friendly as a company but they still insist on using hardware that needs non-standard drivers. Conexant modems for instance
[16:00] <JillyBean> Hrm...yeah that's what I've heard.  Hopefully I can find something else.  I was looking at the system76 ones too...I like those.
[16:00] <Hexagown> Hello guys
[16:00] <Hexagown> I really need help!
[16:00] <JillyBean> Hi hex.
[16:00] <genii> Hexagown:  If you have some question, best just to ask the channel and see if there may be someone with a solution
[16:00] <Hexagown> someone familiar with wireliess?
[16:01] <Hexagown> I have a D-link DWA 547 wireless, i can't get it work.
[16:01] <JillyBean> Is it a PCMCIA card?
[16:01] <genii> That one needs ndiswrapper
[16:02] <Hexagown> Its a PCI
[16:02] <Hexagown> what is ndiswrapper?
[16:03] <genii> Hexagown: It lets you use the windows drivers for your card
[16:04] <Hexagown> ah okay.
[16:04] <Hexagown> shall i download something or yust write a command?
[16:05] <Hexagown> How do i install ndiswrapper?
[16:05] <genii> Hexagown: See here for specific instructions: http://www.uluga.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=490500    You will need internet connectivity through the regular adapter for instance to get the files, etc
[16:06] <Hexagown> ye, i got htat
[16:07] <Hexagown> But how do i install ndiswrapper?
[16:08] <ubuntu> but who was phone?
[16:08] <genii> Hexagown: From Add/Remove Programs
[16:08] <bugger_me> sudo apt-get install ndisgtk
[16:09] <Hexagown> ty
[16:09] <peer`> I want to get kubuntu installed on my laptop but i don't have internal wireless and I need some help figuring out how to get my wireless card working
[16:09] <martin_> Hi i just installed kde 4.1.2 on my hardy heron, using adept.  nothing looks different is that normal
[16:10] <Hexagown> it says "could not find the package ndisgtk"
[16:11] <Hexagown> i couldent install whit sudo apt-get install ndisgtk
[16:11] <JillyBean> martin, you have to go into the session manager at the login screen and pick kde
[16:11] <genii> Hexagown: You don't need that one actually
[16:11] <peer`> I have an airlink101 AWLC3026 wireless card if anybody's wondering, please msg me if you guys have any advice
[16:11] <Hexagown> okay, how shall i do? :S
[16:11] <genii> Hexagown: Did you get the ndiswrapper installed already?
[16:11] <Hexagown> no, thats the one i need to install
[16:11] <Hexagown> i have the file... but what command shall i use?
[16:12] <martin_> JillyBean: yes i did that, but is it suppose to look different
[16:12] <JillyBean> Yep, kde should come up with a blue background.
[16:13] <JillyBean> Oh did you install the kubuntu-desktop package?
[16:13] <peer`> can anybody help me with my wireless issue?
[16:13] <JillyBean> I just went through this...and you have to install "kubuntu-desktop"
[16:13] <genii> Hexagown: Ok, I'll just give you line by line instructions:  Close Adept firstly if it's open. Then open Konsole if it's not open yet. Then: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper-utils-1.9
[16:13] <martin_> JillyBean: I was using kubuntu hardy already
[16:14] <genii> Hexagown: Did you get the windows .inf stuff already ?
[16:14] <Hexagown> Thanks
[16:14] <JillyBean> Martin, so are you running the kde desktop?
[16:14] <Hexagown> ok, i got it installed now
[16:14] <Hexagown> whats next?
[16:14] <genii> Hexagown: Did you get the windows .inf stuff already ?
[16:14] <martin_> yes i am, I just thought that the GUI would be different that kde 3
[16:15] <Hexagown> well iv used sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper-utils-1.9
[16:15] <JillyBean> If you installed from kubuntu disc then you should already be running kde.
[16:15] <JillyBean> kubuntu *is* the distro with the kde desktop
[16:15] <genii> Hexagown: Get the windows driver files from http://www.uluga.ubuntuforums.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=37973&d=1184235806 and put them someplace like in a folder on your desktop
[16:15] <Hexagown> okay
[16:16] <JillyBean> Oh...Martin, I'm not sure about that...but you can go into the desktop settings and you have to turn on some of the fancy stuff.
[16:16] <JillyBean> I haven't played with mine that much yet.
[16:16] <Hexagown> brb, phone
[16:17] <martin_> JillyBean: ok i see
[16:18] <peer`> how would I install drivers on linux with windows driver files?
[16:20] <Hexagown> Im back, when i download the DWA547 it says its a new format, witch program shall i use to open it?
[16:25] <Hexagown> When i download http://www.uluga.ubuntuforums.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=37973&d=1184235806 i cannot chose whare i shall put it, someon know whare it is?
[16:28] <JillyBean> hex, check in your home directory.
[16:29] <JillyBean> ok guys gotta run. Have fun.
[16:29] <Hexagown> nope, its not there :S
[16:29] <Hexagown> ok, cya
[16:29] <Hexagown> well, i have the file now, what to do next?
[16:32] <Hexagown> can someone answer me please?
[16:36] <Hexagown> How do I shut down Serch engines in firefox?
[16:37] <jhutchins_wk> Why would you shut them down?
[16:38] <jhutchins_wk> Hexagown: http://thelinuxnewbie.blogspot.com/2006/08/installing-wifi-wireless-c_115515845577896146.html
[16:38] <Hexagown> becous it annoys me when I came to google evrytime try to go on to a page...
[16:40] <Hexagown> well i know how to install it, almost, i have ndiswrapper and they told me to go here and download http://www.uluga.ubuntuforums.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=37973&d=1184235806
[16:40] <Hexagown> and then when i try to unpack it, it dosent work.
[16:41] <Hexagown> can u unpack  it?
[16:45] <Hexagown> ...
[16:48] <Hexagown> ah got it work now...
[16:49] <genii> Hexagown: Apologies on lag, have not forgotten you just extremely busy at the moment
[16:49] <Hexagown> okay, its okay
[16:49] <Hexagown> well, i have attachment.php now
[16:49] <Hexagown> the link u sended me
[16:49] <Hexagown> what do i do next?
[16:50] <genii> Hexagown: rename it to have .zip extension, then extract it to a folder on your desktop
[16:50] <jhutchins_wk> Hexagown: ok, a php file is just a server script that should have given you a zip file.
[16:50] <Hexagown> okay
[16:51] <genii> jhutchins_wk: Hi
[16:51] <jhutchins_wk> Hexagown: Yeah, it's annoying when it defaults to google if you mis-type a URL.  That doesn't happen to me on my system, so I don't know how to turn it off.
[16:51] <Hexagown> done extract
[16:51] <Hexagown> yes i know, iv used it for 1 day, and im allready had it it
[16:51] <Hexagown> at it*
[16:51] <Hexagown> well, iv extract the file now
[16:52] <Hexagown> what to do?
[16:53] <Hexagown> shall i start the ar5416.sys whit Wine?
[16:53] <genii> Hexagown: What is the name of the folder it is in?
[16:53] <Hexagown> DWA547
[16:54] <Serva> Hi. Is there any place on freenode, where I can discuss search algorithms?
[16:54] <genii> Hexagown: No, forget abut wine for te moment
[16:54] <Hexagown> okay
[16:54] <Hexagown> Folder name is DWA547
[16:55] <genii> Hexagown: OK. So in Konsole: sudo ndiswrapper -i ~/Desktop/DWA547/net5416.inf                        if the folder is directly on your desktop
[16:55] <Hexagown> k
[16:56] <Hexagown> couldn't open /home/d/Desktop/DWA547/net5416.inf: No such file or directory at /usr/sbin/ndiswrapper-1.9 line 219.
[16:56] <Hexagown> came when i tried that
[16:56] <genii> Hexagown: Your user is named "d"   "?
[16:56] <Hexagown> yes...
[16:57] <Hexagown> its short and simpe
[16:58] <genii> Hexagown: Does:    ls ~/Desktop/DWA547/       show that file or not?
[16:59] <Hexagown> i have a file named net5416.inf
[17:00] <Nasj> In the isntallation of kubuntu is there a option where you can partition your HDD ?
[17:01] <Hexagown> do i need to restart my pc after installed ndiswrapper?
[17:03] <Hexagown> Well, ill try restart my pc, brb
[17:03] <arsham> hi all , I have a problem with setting up a vpn connection to a pptp server
[17:03] <arsham> I receive this : not replacing existing default route via 192.168.1.1
[17:06] <Hexagown> ok, can u send me the command agan please?
[17:06] <genii> Hexagown: sudo ndiswrapper -i ~/Desktop/DWA547/net5416.inf
[17:07] <genii> Hexagown: I just went on lunch so will have a bit more time for here
[17:07] <Hexagown> okay
[17:07] <Hexagown> well sudo ndiswrapper -i ~/Desktop/DWA547/net5416.inf does not work :S
[17:08] <arsham> what is this message : not replacing existing default route via 192.168.1.1 ?
[17:08] <Hexagown> couldn't open /home/d/Desktop/DWA547/net5416.inf: No such file or directory at /usr/sbin/ndiswrapper-1.9 line 219.
[17:09] <Hexagown> thats the error
[17:09] <genii> Hexagown: What is result of:    whereis net5416.inf                    ?
[17:10] <Hexagown> What do u mean with result?
[17:10] <genii> Hexagown: The result should show us the exact location of the file
[17:10] <Hexagown> its at desktop/DWA547
[17:11] <genii> Hexagown: When we use the directory you are saying, it is reporting it cannot find the file or directory. So we will use what the result of:   whereis net5416.inf              shows
[17:13] <Hexagown> Hmm, im not sure what u ment, but i might did it right now
[17:14] <genii> Hexagown: Try instead the full path, sudo may be making ~ wrong location:      sudo ndiswrapper -i /home/d/Desktop/DWA547/net5416.inf
[17:14] <Hexagown> i "reunpacked" it and tried agan, and now it says:
[17:14] <Hexagown> installing net5416 ...
[17:14] <Hexagown> forcing parameter MapRegisters from 256 to 64
[17:14] <genii> Good
[17:14] <genii> Hexagown: What reports now the command:   sudo ndiswrapper -l
[17:14] <Hexagown> is it working now u think?
[17:14] <genii> Hexagown: Not quite yet but we are closing in
[17:15] <Hexagown> driver installed!
[17:15] <Hexagown> thanks dude!!
[17:15] <Hexagown> ill try to get the cable out
[17:16] <arsham> anybody knows how to claim this :  not replacing existing default route via 192.168.1.1
[17:16] <Hexagown> Hmm, dident work...
[17:16] <Hexagown> well i have to go and get the mails, brb
[17:17] <genii> Hexagown: Some more steps here :)
[17:17] <genii> Hexagown: sudo modprobe ndiswrapper
[17:17] <genii> Hexagown: Now try connectivity
[17:19] <genii> Hexagown: If works then need to add name      ndiswrapper             to file /etc/modules          with Alt-F2    kdesu kate /etc/modules             add      ndiswrapper   on last line then save it
[17:23] <Hexagown> okay.
[17:25] <genii> Hexagown: Did you do the sudo modprobe ndiswrapper            ?
[17:25] <Hexagown> im back
[17:26] <Hexagown> Nothing happens when i do sudo modprobe ndiswrapper
[17:26] <genii> Good
[17:26] <Hexagown> okay...
[17:26] <Hexagown> and now i go alt+F2
[17:26] <genii> Hexagown: Not yet
[17:27] <Hexagown> or whats next?
[17:27] <Hexagown> ok
[17:27] <genii> Hexagown: Test the wireless now. Rightclick on network manager icon in bottom right and see if a list of access points shows up
[17:27] <Hexagown> all i can see is wierd connections
[17:28] <Hexagown> wired*
[17:28] <Hexagown> well, when i left-klick in the icon down at the right.
[17:29] <Hexagown> it shall be there, right?
[17:29] <genii> rightclick = select with button on right-hand side of mouse
[17:29] <Hexagown> yes...
[17:30] <pakus> Hiya
[17:30] <pakus> Is anyone using ssh 1:4.7p1-8ubuntu1 ?
[17:31] <pakus> I think I've found a bug.
[17:31] <genii> Hexagown: OK. When you issue:  iwconfig           do any adapters show up in the list that DON'T say "no wireless extensions"
[17:31] <pakus> or something strange is doing in my pc
[17:32] <Hexagown> nope, its yust 2 that says no wireless extrensions.
[17:34] <genii> Hexagown: Does:  lsmod | grep ndiswrapper                    show that it is loaded?
[17:35] <Hexagown> ndiswrapper           243872  0
[17:35] <Hexagown> usbcore               170288  5 ndiswrapper,usbhid,ehci_hcd,uhci_hcd
[17:35] <Hexagown> it says
[17:35] <genii> OK so loaded
[17:36] <genii> Hexagown: Do the other instruction and then reboot
[17:36] <genii> Hexagown: EG: add name      ndiswrapper             to file /etc/modules          with Alt-F2    kdesu kate /etc/modules             add      ndiswrapper   on last line then save it
[17:37] <Hexagown> sorry, im stupid, shall i go alt+F2 and write? :S
[17:38] <Hexagown> shall i go alt+F2 and write kdesu kate /etc/modules
[17:39] <Hexagown> shall i go to modules and add ndiswrapper after fuse, lp and rtc?
[17:40] <Hexagown> well, i guess ill try that...
[17:41] <Hexagown> ok, ill reboot now
[17:41] <genii> Hexagown: Yes after all those
[17:45] <Hexxa> hello agan, had to change nick.
[17:45] <Hexxa> well I dont have wireless now eather... :S
[17:46] <Hamra> anyone noticed that the latest news page in kubuntu.org, the one about amarok 2 is not complete? look at the end "want to install Amarok 2 along the current stable version, " where is the rest?
[17:49] <Hamra> so anyone know how to install amarok 2 alongside amarok 1.4 in intrepid?
[17:51] <Sudi> hey
[17:52] <Sudi> someone here?
[17:52]  * Hamra is deafened by the silence
[17:52] <OutoLumo> No?
[17:52] <Sudi> i have a question about the knetworkmanger
[17:53] <Sudi> could it be that the manager is not really working?
[17:54] <Hexxa> my wireless dont work now eather :S
[17:55] <Nitsud> nick dustin2
[17:55] <Nitsud> oops
[17:55] <genii> Hexxa: OK. What interfaces does ifconfig show?
[17:55] <Dustin3> Mornin guys
[17:56] <Hexxa> eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:11:5b:6a:28:5c
[17:56] <Hexxa>           inet addr:192.168.0.4  Bcast:192.168.0.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
[17:56] <Hexxa>           inet6 addr: fe80::211:5bff:fe6a:285c/64 Scope:Link
[17:56] <Hexxa>           UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1492  Metric:1
[17:56] <Hexxa>           RX packets:8773 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
[17:56] <Hexxa>           TX packets:7883 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
[17:56] <Hexxa>           collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
[17:56] <Sudi> well my problem is kinda bad it shows all the wireless networks but when itry to connect its not connecting
[17:56] <Hexxa>           RX bytes:10074043 (9.6 MB)  TX bytes:797957 (779.2 KB)
[17:56] <Hexxa>           Interrupt:23 Base address:0x8000
[17:56] <Sudi> and the wep key is correct
[17:56] <Hexxa> lo        Link encap:Local Loopback
[17:56] <Hexxa>           inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
[17:57] <Hexxa>           inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host
[17:57] <genii> !pastebin
[17:57] <Hexxa>           UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:16436  Metric:1
[17:57] <Hexxa>           RX packets:2 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
[17:57] <Hexxa>           TX packets:2 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
[17:57] <Hexxa>           collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
[17:57] <Hexxa>           RX bytes:100 (100.0 B)  TX bytes:100 (100.0 B)
[17:57] <Hexxa> here u go...
[17:57] <genii> Hexxa: I did not mean to copy everything into the channel here
[17:57] <Hexxa> sorry.
[17:57] <Hexxa> http://paste.ubuntu.com/57958/ here u go
[17:57] <Dustin3> So I just installed Kubuntu and I ran into a problem
[17:58] <Sudi> hey guys what about my problem...did anyone else has this too
[17:58] <Dustin3> the partition manager/installer didn't install GRUB
[17:58] <Dustin3> and I am too feeble to comprehend how to do it manually
[17:58] <Sudi> ??
[17:59] <Dustin3> Last time I installed it, it installed the bootloader automatically
[17:59] <Dustin3> but this time I didn't get the option and I didn't realize it till after..
[17:59] <Hexxa> I have to eat now
[17:59] <Hexxa> Have to eat, brb
[18:00] <genii> Hexxa: OK.  Does:   lsmod |grep ndiswrapper         show it loaded or just come back to command prompt?
[18:00] <genii> Hexxa: All right. I'll be around a while
[18:00] <krash> Greetings folks
[18:00] <Sudi> hey genii do you have any idea about my problem?
[18:00] <krash> Sudi what's your problem?
[18:01] <Dustin3> I was here first Sudi ;)
[18:01] <genii> Sudi: Offand no
[18:01] <Sudi> well when i try to connect to my wlan network its not working^^
[18:01] <Sudi> its showing the network and everything
[18:01] <genii> Work needs me for a few minutes anyways. Hopefully someone else can try to assist
[18:01] <Sudi> and its the right wep key
[18:02] <Sudi> oh and i can't open the manual config tab
[18:03] <krash> Hrmm what kind of router/firmware?
[18:03] <Sudi> no router
[18:03] <Sudi> its a wireless modem
[18:03] <Sudi> ^^
[18:03] <Sudi> after connecting i haveto use a ppoe dail in
[18:03] <krash> a wireless modem? *blinks*
[18:04] <Sudi> to dail in
[18:04] <krash> is this through at&t?
[18:04] <Sudi> nope
[18:04] <Sudi> i'm from germany
[18:04] <krash> ahh *nods* and you're sure it's not a wireless router & modem? I never heard of just a wireless modem
[18:05] <Sudi> well its not a router
[18:05] <krash> how are you connected now?
[18:05] <Dustin3> Anyone here familiar with installing GRUB manually?
[18:05] <Sudi> i'm on windows now
[18:05] <krash> So windows connects to it, but when you dual boot into kubuntu it doesn't?
[18:05] <Dustin3> speaking of dual booting Kubuntu :P
[18:05] <Sudi> yeah
[18:06] <krash> Dustin3 I'm looking that up for ya now :)
[18:06] <Dustin3> hehe
[18:06] <Dustin3> I'm not sure why it didn't give me the option
[18:06] <krash> been a while since I did it manually
[18:06] <Dustin3> when I installed Ubuntu
[18:06] <Dustin3> it loaded it up right away
[18:06] <Dustin3> no hassle
[18:06] <Dustin3> this time, nothing...
[18:07] <krash> sudi what version/platform of kubuntu you use btw?
[18:07] <Sudi> well the newest
[18:08] <Sudi> just downloaded it
[18:08] <Sudi> with kde4
[18:08] <Sudi> should i update the kde version to 4.1?
[18:08] <Sudi> or is it something else
[18:09] <krash> Sudi well to be honest I just switched from ubuntu 8.04 to kubuntu 8.10 but mine set up everything automatically for me
[18:09] <Sudi> well 8.10
[18:09] <Sudi> is that actually out???
[18:09] <krash> it's the beta
[18:09] <Sudi> ohh
[18:09]  * krash shakes his head
[18:10] <Sudi> ok
[18:10] <Dustin3> lol
[18:10] <Sudi> well i'm using 8.04
[18:10] <krash> 15 more days, I figured I'd get a jump start :)
[18:10] <Dustin3> I was considering that
[18:10] <Dustin3> but sinec I'm such a newb I figured go for a stable release
[18:10] <Hexxa> im back
[18:10] <krash> it seems to be working pretty good for me
[18:10] <krash> it's a whole different look though
[18:11] <Sudi> well that doesn't matter here
[18:11] <Dustin3> I'm almost tempted to install BootMagic
[18:11] <Dustin3> or some awful program
[18:11] <Dustin3> just so I can get in
[18:11] <Dustin3> or just end up reinstalling Kubuntu again
[18:11] <Hexxa> genii: hell im back, are you there?
[18:11] <krash> Dustin3 imo there is no better way to get out of the newb stage than to tinker and screw up and fix it hehe
[18:11] <Hexxa> i have the result now
[18:11] <Hexxa> ndiswrapper           243872  0
[18:11] <Hexxa> usbcore               170288  5 ndiswrapper,usbhid,ehci_hcd,uhci_hcd
[18:11] <Sudi> so u guys have no idea how to fix that knetwokrmanager bug?
[18:11] <Dustin3> hehe
[18:12] <Dustin3> krash those days are long gone
[18:12] <krash> Dustin3: You can use your kubuntu disc to install grub
[18:12] <Dustin3> 8 years ago I would have been right in there
[18:12] <Dustin3> Hmm really
[18:12] <Dustin3> boot from the disc?
[18:13] <krash> Dustin3: Yeah it has the grub program on it, should be help files on it as well
[18:13] <Dustin3> ok I'll take a peek
[18:13] <Dustin3> brb
[18:13] <krash> I'd check out
[18:13] <krash> a manual on grub first...
[18:13]  * krash shrugs his shoulders
[18:14] <krash> okay Sudi, back to you, you're in windows now aye?
[18:14] <Sudi> yeah
[18:14] <krash> xp?
[18:15] <Sudi> vista^^
[18:15] <Hexxa> genii are u here?
[18:15] <krash> ehhh not much experience with that, but should be mostly the same, what's your ip configuration set up for? dhcp or static?
[18:15] <Sudi> dhcp
[18:16] <krash> Hrmm, and the kubuntu livecd didn't recognize your network either?
[18:16] <Sudi> well i can see the network
[18:16] <Sudi> ^^
[18:16] <Sudi> but i can't connect
[18:17] <krash> can ping it?
[18:17] <Sudi> i can't connect to the network
[18:17] <Sudi> how could i ping it
[18:17] <Sudi> without being connected
[18:18] <Freku> just try it
[18:18] <Sudi> btw the option manual configuration
[18:19] <Sudi> is not working in the knetworkmanager
[18:19] <Sudi> when i click it nothing happens
[18:19] <genii> Back for a little while
[18:19] <aleksi_> wierd when i started kubuntu  and first tried to log in it said for sysytem maintance shutdown in 2min....
[18:20] <aleksi_> and after that when i  logged in now i have 16 desktop....
[18:21] <Sudi> well i guess i found my problem on the ubuntuusers board
[18:21] <Sudi> but its not solved there
[18:21] <Sudi> someone else just has the same problem^^
[18:21] <genii> Hexxa: Ok so it's loaded. Are you using 32 bit or 64 bit Kubuntu ?
[18:22] <krash> Sudi yeah the modem you are using is what's making me curios
[18:22] <Hexxa> 64bit
[18:22] <Sudi> krash : yeah maybe its that wireless device
[18:23] <genii> Hexxa: Might exlain it ehn
[18:23] <Sudi> bc i think i remember me being online somewhere else
[18:23] <Hexxa> oh okay.. :S
[18:23]  * genii smacks keyboard a bit
[18:23] <krash> Sudi: That's what I'm thinking, your wireless card working, it should get an ip from the modem....
[18:23] <Hexxa> :S
[18:23] <Sudi> yeah
[18:23] <Sudi> its stopping on receiving the ip
[18:24] <genii> Hexxa: sudo apt-get install ia32-libs               please
[18:24] <Sudi> but like i said when trying to use manual setup
[18:24] <Sudi> its not doing it
[18:24] <Sudi> bc manual setup is not working
[18:24] <Sudi> ok trying once again
[18:24] <Sudi> ^^
[18:24] <thebornotaku> is anybody here good at getting wireless cards to work?
[18:24] <Hexxa> k
[18:24] <krash> Sudi: Yeah go try again check all settings
[18:24] <genii> Geez. So many wireless issues today
[18:24] <krash> Sudi: 9/10 times for me it's a silly mistake I made
[18:25] <Hexxa> done
[18:25] <genii> Hexxa: Reboot and see again
[18:25] <Hexxa> Do you think that the wireless ill work after reboot?
[18:25] <krash> I'm just sitting at home sick as a dog, figured I'd try to help a lil' :)
[18:26] <Hexxa> well, ill reboot, brb
[18:26] <thebornotaku> I was told that my wireless card should be instantly recognized by kubuntu, i have a Airlink AWLC3026, any suggestions?
[18:26] <krash> thebornotaku: It should aye, what version of kubuntu?
[18:26] <thebornotaku> let me check
[18:27] <thebornotaku> 7.04
[18:27] <krash> 7.04? Ehh can you get the 8.04?
[18:27] <thebornotaku> yeah, how would I update?
[18:27] <thebornotaku> I just installed it from an old disc I had
[18:28] <thebornotaku> I also want to upgrade KDE, would that happen at the same time as the 8.04 update or do I need to get KDE 7.1 seperately?
[18:28] <krash> well if it's a fresh install just install over it with 8.04
[18:28] <kushou> hi
[18:28] <krash> well I'm using the kubuntu 8.10 beta disk...
[18:28] <thebornotaku> krash, is there any way to just patch to 8.04? I don't have access to a CD burner
[18:29] <thebornotaku> I do have access to a hard line and a place to let the computer sit undisturbed, so
[18:29] <krash> thebornotaku: I believe you can mount it and run it without burning but I'd have to read up on that
[18:29] <zer0o> du guys know a good web development application for linux as dreamweaver for example?
[18:30] <Hexagown> still not working
[18:30] <krash> I believe quanta is pretty good there zer0o
[18:30] <kushou> Quanta
[18:30] <zer0o> quanta
[18:30] <zer0o> ok i'll check it out
[18:30] <zer0o> is it in the repos?
[18:30] <krash> aye
[18:30] <thebornotaku> Krash, so my wireless card should work fine on 8.04, or would I need to do something after that?
[18:30] <kushou> i think
[18:30] <krash> it's part of kde
[18:31] <thebornotaku> krash, cool
[18:31] <thebornotaku> crap, boss called, I have to leave
[18:31] <Hexagown>  My wireless still wont work
[18:31] <Hexagown> :S
[18:31] <thebornotaku> krash, how long will you be on?
[18:32] <krash> thebornotaku: Yes, most likely the wireless drivers should be alot newer
[18:32] <thebornotaku> krash, k, thanks
[18:32] <krash> quite a while I got time :)
[18:32] <Hexagown> speaking whit me?
[18:32] <Hexagown> would LOVE all the help I can get
[18:32] <krash> Hexagown: What's the problem?
[18:33] <Hexagown> My wireless D-Link DWA547 PCI wont work, i got Linux 8.04 64bit. Help!
[18:34] <krash> Ehhh is it detecting the card and inserting the correct module?
[18:34] <Hexagown> well, iv got ndiswrapper
[18:34] <Hexagown> did sudo ndiswrapper -i net5416.inf
[18:35] <Hexagown> then sudo ndiswrapper -l
[18:35] <Hexagown> then i did put ndiswrapper into /etc/modules'
[18:35] <Hexagown> still wont work
[18:36] <genii> Hexagown: This card seems problemmatic. And ndiswrapper for it does not like 64 bit. An alternate way to get it working is described here http://ph.ubuntuforums.com/showthread.php?t=668272 in post #3 but it involves building the driver manually
[18:36] <krash> Hexagown: Sorry but I am not familiar with that
[18:36] <Hexagown> ok, ill check the link
[18:36] <Hexagown> ok, thnx annyway crack
[18:36] <krash> genii's good :)
[18:36] <Hexagown> crash*
[18:36] <Hexagown> yeah
[18:36] <krash> hehe n/p
[18:37] <Hexagown> and linux-headers-$(uname -r), where $(uname -r) is the output of the "uname -r" command (it tells you what version of the Linux kernel you are currently running). I dont understand :S
[18:37] <Hexagown> whit all the -$ and stuffs.
[18:37] <krash> I'm trying to get used to this kde 4.1 man they really tweaked it alot
[18:37] <genii> Hexagown: It will substitute the proper values
[18:38] <Hexagown> ok
[18:38] <krash> don't like how I can't right click on my desktop and change my screen saver and etc
[18:38] <Hexagown> I'll yust get madWiFi, 1 sek
[18:39] <genii> Hexagown: You can just use even: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)                      and it will substitute it on the fly
[18:40] <krash> I do like the plasma though
[18:40] <Hexagown> done
[18:40] <Hexagown> how do i install madWiFi?
[18:41] <krash> Hexagown: google kubuntu madwifi?
[18:42] <Hexagown> i have the file allready.
[18:43] <Hexagown> shall i do sudo apt-get install madwifi?
[18:43] <krash> Hexagown: I'd consider that an obvious first attempt to get it yeah
[18:44] <Hexagown> but it says could not find package.
[18:44] <krash> you have the .deb?
[18:44] <Hexagown> its only bz and bz2 on sourceforge.
[18:45] <Hexagown> well, ill google abit more hten
[18:45] <MHz128> hi all
[18:45] <krash> Hexagown: Yeah I'm not familiar with that, would take reading on both our parts
[18:45] <MHz128> How do I install the latest verion of nm-applet (.7?) to support the use of a static IP ?
[18:45] <Hexagown> k
[18:46] <jhutchins_wk> ubottu: madwifi?
[18:46] <jhutchins_wk> ubottu: madwifi
[18:46] <MHz128> I have tried to manually configure NM 0.6.6 with Static wireless IP, but not success
[18:47] <MHz128> jhutchins ill check it out
[18:47] <krash> Howdy MHz128, hrmm, what kind of router?
[18:47] <Guest26745> can a compiz  work on windows?
[18:47] <MHz128> krash: linksys wrt54gs
[18:47] <krash> MHz128 version?
[18:48] <MHz128> krash: WPA 1.... ummmm its running dd-wrt
[18:48] <Hexagown> there is only .bz files.
[18:48] <krash> MHz128: ahh good, there should be an option in there, to use dhcp but give a static ip address in return
[18:49] <krash> MHz128: Not exactly sure where, but that's how mine's set up
[18:49] <MHz128> krash: dont have admin piveleges to router at the moment. But there is an IP assigned for me
[18:50] <MHz128> krash:  you using nm-applet? what version?
[18:51] <krash> MHz128: ahh nope, was just going to google that never heard of it
[18:51] <MHz128> krash: you connec via command line?
[18:51] <MHz128> krash:  its the defualt GUI wifi tool for gnome/ubunutu
[18:52] <krash> MHz128: ahh no I'm on a hard wire atm
[18:52] <Hexagown> Someone can send me a link to download MadWiFI as .deb file?
[18:52] <krash> MHz128: It's been a while since I used wireless with ubuntu sorry
[18:52] <MHz128> krash: no worries, thanks for advice tho!
[18:53] <krash> MHz128: I'm running the kubuntu beta it setup everything for me I am quite impressed
[18:54] <MHz128> krash: beta 8.1 or whatever?
[18:54] <krash> MHz128: Yeah 8.10, kde is ALOT different though
[18:55] <Guest23813> can the compiz be used on windows?
[18:55] <MHz128> cool
[18:56] <krash> Guest23813: you running ubuntu on an emulator?
[18:56] <Guest23813>  can the compiz be used on windows?
[18:57] <kerry_> wats an emulator
[18:57] <kerry_> ?
[18:58] <Hexagown> My wireless only work with Gentoo x86 or says on madwifi.org
[18:58] <trenton_> Hi, anyway I can get kernel 2.6.27 in hardy please?
[18:58] <Hexagown> I'll it work with Kubuntu too annyway?
[18:59] <krash> kerry_: well it basically allows you to run other operating systems in windows...
[18:59] <kerry_> wats an emulator
[18:59] <kerry_> ?
[19:00] <krash> Hexagown: that's what genii said, you have to manually compile the code which gentoo does automatically
[19:00] <kerry_> well my computer has  two prog. wimdows and kubuntu
[19:01] <Hexagown> oh okay.
[19:01] <kerry_> does that tell you anything ?
[19:01] <universidad> como edito los marcadores
[19:01] <krash> kerry_: ahh compiz is for kubuntu not for windows
[19:01] <Hexagown> well I'v worked whit this for 6hours in streak not, so I'll take a break now, ill be back later
[19:01] <universidad> #Kubuntu-es
[19:02] <krash> Hexagown: Yeah that helps, hard to fix stuff when aggrivated :)
[19:02] <Hexagown> yeah :D
[19:02] <kerry_> krash : so its impossible ?
[19:03] <krash> kerry_: It *may* be possible, if you run kubuntu INSIDE of windows via a program but don't hold me to it
[19:03] <krash> kerry_: and I forgot what program I used to do so as well, hrmm
[19:04] <kerry_> so how do you run kubuntu in windows?
[19:04] <krash> kerry_: there's OS emulator programs for windows that allows you to do trying to find the one I used...
[19:06] <kerry_> ok thanks
[19:06] <kerry_> krash: how to install compiz fusion
[19:07] <Nasj> krash yoyu mean virtual machines ?
[19:07] <krash> Nasj: Aye that's what I mean
[19:07] <Nasj> VMware
[19:07] <Nasj> Virtualbox
[19:07] <krash> virtualbox is the one I used last *nods*
[19:08] <Nasj> both good ones
[19:08] <krash> Nasj thanks
[19:08] <Nasj> np
[19:08] <Nasj> and if you ahve the time
[19:08] <Nasj> set this up
[19:08] <Nasj> http://xkcd.com/350/
[19:08] <ncfi1013_> why when i try to burn movies in k3b does it not go past preparing the data for burning
[19:09] <kerry_> krash: how to install compiz
[19:10] <ncfi1013_> why when i try to burn movies in k3b does it not go past preparing the data for burning
[19:10] <krash> Nasj: *laughs* nice strip
[19:10] <Nasj> :p
[19:10] <Nasj> set it up
[19:10] <Nasj> than you can laugh :P
[19:12] <keyzek> hi
[19:12] <keyzek> i want compile program in C++
[19:12] <krash> Nasj: Hrmm how do you set it up?
[19:12] <keyzek> how i can use program gcc
[19:12] <keyzek> ?
[19:12] <Nasj> lots of virtual machines
[19:12] <krash> keyzek: g++
[19:12] <Nasj> :P
[19:13] <Nasj> make a virtual network between them
[19:13] <krash> Nasj: Oh I get it haha
[19:13] <Nasj> amke sure they cant connetc with your main computer
[19:13] <trenton_> Hi, anyway I can get kernel 2.6.27 in hardy please?
[19:13] <Nasj> than download all viruses you can xds
[19:13] <krash> Nasj: that would be funny
[19:13] <Nasj> and evry once in a while
[19:13] <Nasj> randomly
[19:13] <Nasj> scan a computer
[19:13] <Nasj> and delete
[19:14] <sudi> ok back
[19:14] <sudi> now i'm on linux
[19:14] <Nasj> be sure you scan every half hour
[19:14] <Nasj> to keep track of the birus movements :P
[19:14] <sudi> but wireless is still not working
[19:14] <keyzek> krash thx ;)
[19:14] <krash> keyzek: np :)
[19:14] <sudi> now i'm sitting next to the device with a cable
[19:14] <sudi> krash...
[19:14] <Nasj> I should probably install linux too
[19:14] <krash> sudi: hardwired?
[19:14] <sudi> yea
[19:14] <sudi> h
[19:15] <Freku> wireless to dangerous anyway   use homeplug solution
[19:15] <Freku> :)
[19:15] <krash> sudi: update your system?
[19:15] <keyzek> i'm beginner user ubuntu :)
[19:15] <Nasj> I read a lot
[19:15] <Nasj> but haven't installed linux yet
[19:15] <krash> Nasj: Me too, too much at times
[19:15] <Nasj> ecxept puppy linux
[19:15] <sudi> i just did
[19:15] <Nasj> and DSL
[19:16] <sudi> installed like 79 upes
[19:16] <ncfi1013_> why when i try to burn movies in k3b does it not go past preparing the data for burning
[19:16] <krash> Nasj: why are you in a kubuntu chatroom then? hehe
[19:16] <sudi> but still the knetwokmanager isn't working right
[19:16] <Nasj> cause im planning on installing kubuntu
[19:16] <sudi> somehow themanual config isn't working
[19:16] <krash> sudi: was any of them wireless tools?
[19:16] <sudi> nope
[19:16] <Alfonso> hello everybody
[19:16] <Nasj> and kubuntu seems nice to start with :D
[19:16] <Alfonso> can somebody help me
[19:16] <Alfonso> i just cant install my video driver
[19:16] <sudi> any suggestions about wireless tools krash
[19:17] <Freku> yeah  i went to kubuntu about half year ago
[19:17] <Freku> dont have any complaints
[19:17] <Alfonso> i have a Compaq Presario v3418 with Nvidia 6500 GO
[19:17] <Freku> struggled in beginning with videodrivers a bit but after that  :)
[19:17] <krash> sudi: I'm thinking still, but not coming up with anything
[19:18] <Nasj> lol @ http://xkcd.com/214/
[19:18] <Nasj> I always end up at lesbiansim i nerotica
[19:18] <krash> Alfonso: You need proprietary drivers from nvidia, what kubuntu you running?
[19:19] <keyzek> i have g++ and how can i compile program ??
[19:19] <krash> Alfonso:  sudo aptitude search nvidia
[19:19] <sudi> krash: just installed wireless assitant
[19:19] <sudi> can't find it now^
[19:19] <Alfonso> krash: its version 8.04
[19:19] <Alfonso> krash: ive try Envy package and didnt work
[19:20] <krash> keyzek: I believe it's g++ -c test.c
[19:20] <krash> then it'd be g++ -o test test.o
[19:20] <krash> then ./test but don't hold me to that either also been a while
[19:21] <Nasj> krash
[19:21] <krash> Alfonso that's weird, because my card is either the same one or very similiar and mine works
[19:21] <Nasj> you know a bit more bout partitiniong ?
[19:21] <krash> Nasj: that I do frequently enough yeah
[19:21] <Nasj> ok
[19:21] <Nasj> good
[19:22] <Nasj> cause i now have like a 80gig windows HDD
[19:22] <Nasj> and also a 500gig HDD for storage
[19:22] <Alfonso> krash: could it be something with the compiz pakage??
[19:22] <sudi> trying something be right back
[19:22] <sudi> exit
[19:22] <Nasj> can i partition like 25 - 50 gig of that storage HDD and install kubuntu on that ?
[19:22] <krash> Alfonso: I don't believe so, I believe the nvidia module has to be inserted on bootup...
[19:23] <krash> Nasj: I'm running on a 35 gig kubuntu partition right now and yes you could
[19:24] <krash> Nasj: HOWEVER... your computer boots from the 80 gig hdd right?
[19:24] <Nasj> yes
[19:24] <krash> You'll need to install the bootloader there...
[19:24] <Nasj> oh
[19:24] <Nasj> does that mean
[19:24] <Nasj> lot of hassle ?
[19:24] <Alfonso> krash: it worked almost properly once, with the 3d stuff, if i had 4 desktops it only recognized 2 of them
[19:24] <keyzek> krash i have one question where i must save test.c ??
[19:25] <krash> Nasj: unless your bios allows you to choose your boot hdd
[19:25] <Nasj> it does
[19:25] <Nasj> but then verythime i want to switch i need to change that inm y BIOS ?
[19:25] <Alfonso> krash: which driver worked for you??
[19:26] <krash> keyzek: anywhere you want, usually your home directory ie. /home/keyzek/  should make a directory ie (mkdir src)
[19:26] <krash> Alfonso: one second I'll see which one I'm using
[19:27] <sudi> muhaha i tricked the connection
[19:28] <sudi> krash: i found a "solution"
[19:28] <krash> Alfonso: Okay to be noted, I'm using the beta version of kubuntu 8.10... I go to system, kmenu,apps,hardware drivers, and nvidia 177
[19:28] <sudi> i used the Wireless Asisstent to connect the network
[19:28] <Nasj> i never liked it when solution was within qoutation maks
[19:28] <krash> sudi: Nice :)
[19:28] <sudi> i guess its bc the wireless "router" has no dhcp
[19:28] <sudi> and i was not able to use the knetworkmanager manual config
[19:28] <Alfonso> krash: ok ill try it thanx
[19:29] <sudi> bc the programm is not installed somehow
[19:29] <Nasj> krash
[19:29] <genii> Hexagown: Apologies. Today is extremely busy for me here at work and they keep calling me away from the computer.
[19:29] <krash> Alfonso: So it should still be in your kde 3.5 somewhere just don't know where offhand...
[19:29] <Nasj> (20:24:59) <krash> Nasj: unless your bios allows you to choose your boot hdd
[19:29] <Nasj> (20:25:11) * javi (n=javi@226.Red-83-44-155.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) has joined #kubuntu
[19:29] <Nasj> (20:25:11) <Nasj> it does
[19:29] <Nasj> (20:25:27) <Nasj> but then verythime i want to switch i need to change that inm y BIOS ?
[19:30] <krash> Nasj: Sorry, my bios has an option if i push f8 I can choose what to boot from...
[19:30] <Nasj> mine has that too
[19:30] <Nasj> but i dont know if linux will show up in there
[19:30] <krash> linux won't but if you can boot from the storage hdd then you'll be fine
[19:31] <Alfonso> krash: ok, i find it, ill try what you just said.
[19:31] <krash> the bootloader will install to the master boot record of the storage hdd
[19:31] <krash> Alfonso: Good luck :)
[19:32] <GSF1200S> hello
[19:32] <sudi> thanks for all your help
[19:32] <GSF1200S> does anyone in here know what the package is called for the Kubuntu control panel
[19:32] <Nasj> well
[19:32] <Alfonso> krash: guess ill need it :)
[19:32] <Nasj> the storage hdd doesnt show uo
[19:32] <krash> Alfonso: but if you have a couple gigs free on the windows hdd, I'd install it there, and just make a partition on the storage hdd for well storage
[19:32] <Nasj> cause there isnt an os installed there ?
[19:33] <Nasj> when i press F8
[19:33] <Nasj> i get the option to chose WINDOWS safe mode
[19:33] <Nasj> or MS-DOS
[19:33] <Nasj> and that stuff
[19:33] <Freku> then you pressed F8 too late
[19:33] <krash> ahh that's not the bios that's windows itself
[19:33] <Alfonso> krash: actually i have 3 partitions, windows, storage, kubuntu
[19:33] <krash> Alfonso: I'm sorry that was meant to go to Nasj :P
[19:34] <Alfonso> krash: lol
[19:34] <Nasj> ill go and see how much i got left
[19:34] <Nasj> but
[19:34] <genii> GSF1200S: usually kcontrol
[19:34] <Nasj> is my windows isntallation save ?
[19:35] <Nasj> cause i believe i once fucked up bigtime
[19:35] <Nasj> while trying linux
[19:35] <Nasj> now
[19:35] <Nasj> while trying to partition
[19:35] <krash> Nasj: I've never messed up one yet
[19:35] <Freku> always have a backup
[19:35] <Freku> before major changes
[19:35] <Nasj> Freku
[19:35] <Freku> yes ?
[19:35] <genii> Nasj: Please, watch the language :)
[19:35] <Nasj> all my files are on a diff HD
[19:35] <krash> Nasj: but Freku gives good advice I'm wreckless :)
[19:35] <Nasj> ok genii
[19:36] <genii> Nasj: Thanks
[19:36] <GSF1200S> genii: kcontrol is for KDE. I installed the kernel and installed kdebase on top of that- I need the kubuntu specific contol center for power management
[19:36] <Nasj> krash can my storage hd be used for both linux and windows ?
[19:37] <krash> Nasj: Aye :)
[19:37] <krash> Nasj: Great thing about linux it can read/write to both, but windows can't :P
[19:37] <stdin> GSF1200S: kde-systemsettings
[19:37] <Nasj> but my /home folder will be on the OS HDD ?
[19:37] <Nasj> yeah
[19:37] <Nasj> linux kicks
[19:37] <GSF1200S> stdin: thanks alot
[19:37] <krash> Nasj: However you're still going to want your linux running on an ext3 or reiserfs partition
[19:38] <Nasj> reiserfs ?
[19:38] <krash> Nasj: You can make your home folder on your storage hdd
[19:38] <Freku> i thought reiserfs is no longer developed .  jailtime ?
[19:38] <pteague_work> is there any way i can default konqueror to tree view for directories?
[19:38] <genii> GSF1200S: I think kde-guidance , or similar
[19:38] <Nasj> wont that be a hassle krash ?
[19:39] <krash> Nasj: I'm not sure, I believe the partitioner will recognize both hard drives
[19:39] <GSF1200S> genii: you and stdin were both right.. thanks!
[19:39] <krash> Nasj: should be easier than ya think
[19:39] <Nasj> 16 gig free
[19:40] <Freku> pff not much
[19:40] <Nasj> out of 76
[19:40] <krash> Freku: what? no more reiserfs?
[19:40] <Nasj> Freku thats on my OS HDD
[19:40] <krash> Nasj: Move stuff to your storage hdd and defrag your os hdd :P
[19:41] <Freku> i read somewhere that the creator of reiser is in jail for killing
[19:41] <Nasj> O.o
[19:41] <Freku> i thought his wife
[19:41] <Nasj> krash
[19:41] <Nasj> all that usage are fro minstalled programms
[19:42] <krash> Nasj: that would be horrible if true, reiserfs4 was looking so promising :P
[19:43] <Nasj> ?
[19:43] <Nasj> i think you mean Freku
[19:43] <genii> It is true but work on reiserfs continues.
[19:43] <krash> blah yep
[19:43] <Freku> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hans_Reiser#Trial_and_Verdict
[19:43] <Freku> read it
[19:43] <krash> Nasj: Anyway of clearing up more space on the OS hdd?
[19:43] <Freku> :)
[19:44] <Nasj> yeah
[19:44] <Nasj> im trying
[19:44] <Nasj> :P
[19:44] <maggo79> hi
[19:44] <maggo79> there are new ati-drivers (not yet linked)
[19:44] <maggo79> https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9206/0/www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/ati-driver-installer-8-10-x86.x86_64.run
[19:44] <Freku> San Quentin state prison
[19:45] <genii> maggo79: Thanks for the link
[19:45] <Nasj> maybe worht to mention
[19:45] <Nasj> ive got an other partition
[19:45] <Nasj> called RECOVERY
[19:45] <Nasj> its for when i screw up badly
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[19:45] <Freku> :)
[19:45] <Nasj> and i mess windows up
[19:46] <krash> wow can't say I haven't ever felt like killing my wife but sheesh :P
[19:46] <genii> stdin: Actually the akamai.net is where ati does store their downloads
[19:46] <Freku> easier to make an image with a tool like trueimage or ghost
[19:46] <Nasj> it rerutns C:\ back to fabric defaults
[19:46] <genii> ati/amd
[19:46] <Freku> dell computer ?
[19:46] <Nasj> compaq :p
[19:46] <stdin> genii: if it's not announced, it may not be the final version or could have other problems
[19:47] <genii> stdin: Ah, true
[19:47] <stdin> just like when the ubuntu ISOs are being seeded on the servers before announced
[19:48]  * krash sighs
[19:48] <krash> mother-in-law coming over...
[19:48] <Tm_T> krash: good reason to sing
[19:48] <krash> only woman worse than my wife haha
[19:48] <Nasj> haha
[19:48] <krash> good reason to get a bottle of jack :P
[19:49] <Tm_T> also very offtopic
[19:49] <Freku> maybe wait for ext4
[19:49] <Freku> :)
[19:49] <krash> anyone else using the beta version 8.10 of kubuntu?
[19:50] <genii> krash: Probably a lot of people in the #ubunt+1 channel ... ;)
[19:50] <genii> #ubuntu+1    even
[19:50] <krash> I'm still trying to get the liquid weather++ to work :P
[19:50]  * genii smacks his keyboard a bit
[19:50] <krash> genii: Is that for the testers?
[19:50] <Nasj> hmm
[19:50] <genii> krash: It's for 8.10 period
[19:50] <Nasj> am i going to stay up all night and install kubuntu ?
[19:51] <Tm_T> Nasj: sure you do
[19:51] <Tm_T> Nasj: though it only takes 30 minutes
[19:51] <Freku> just sleep on it
[19:51] <Freku> :)
[19:51] <Nasj> thats what i tought
[19:51] <krash> Nasj: *laughs* naww about 30 minutes to install it the rest of the night tinkering with it hehe
[19:51] <Nasj> yeah thats what i meant
[19:52] <krash> well afk a bit guys ... :(
[19:52] <maggo79> announced: http://ati.amd.com/support/drivers/linux/linux-radeon.html
[19:52] <Nasj> I just know that when i install kubuntu i cant be pulled away from my computer for at least another 12 hours
[19:52] <Freku> cu next week then
[19:52] <Freku> :)
[19:52] <Nasj> :p
[19:52] <krash> I haven't used my windows boot on this comp in about a month :)
[19:52] <mmarante> girl here?
[19:53] <Freku> yeah  it grows on you
[19:54] <maggo79> <- is restating X to test the new ati drivers
[19:54] <Freku> <- cant wait for the results   :)
[20:01] <itsatrick> I'm trying to upgrade (an install now) KDE4 per these instructions: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.1.2.  However, I have a lot of broken dependencies and when I do think I've installed KDE, everything's white except for a few icons that failed to load.  Anyone else having this problem?  Solutions?  thanks.
[20:08] <maggo79> 8.10 catalyst drivers running
[20:09] <maggo79> videos play without flickerung with kde4 desktop effect enabled
[20:09] <mrksbrd> has anyone attempted printing thru a printserver that is on a windows system
[20:10] <maggo79> gamma is adjustable for each monitor seperatly
[20:39] <bdizzle> hi, I was wondering how to update the signatures on ClamTK (yes, I know Linux doesn't need virus scan, but I recently booted into windows this past weekend and wanted to be sure
[20:40] <bdizzle> I tried from GUI and it claims I need to be root to do it
[20:41] <NickPresta> bdizzle, kdesudo clamav
[20:41] <bdizzle> k, thanks
[20:44] <krash> back
[20:46] <krash> cancel that got more stuff to do
[20:47] <MHz128> hi all
[20:47] <MHz128> how do I search for a file using kubuntu?
[20:47] <krash> man find
[20:47] <krash> err second
[20:49] <krash> MHz128: there should be a search or find in konqueror I believe
[20:50] <spiroo> hello, I need help.
[20:50] <MHz128> 10 4 thanks
[20:50] <spiroo> I accidently removed my root user
[20:50] <krash> MHz128: Mine's under tools, find file...
[20:51] <spiroo> after that I should install the new kubntu beta, which removed everything, almost. Well, because of the lack of root, dpkg throw an error and I cannot install anything.
[20:51] <fernando> hi
[20:51] <krash> spiroo: If it's a fresh install, just reinstall
[20:52] <Coggz> hi all, needing some assistance
[20:52] <mijagi> siema
[20:52] <spiroo> krash: No it is not a fresh install
[20:52] <mijagi> yo, how live?
[20:52] <spiroo> krash: I need to restore it without re-install whole kubuntu from cd.
[20:52] <Coggz> got a problem with TightVNC, VirtualBox and Windows XP
[20:52] <mijagi> who speak polish ??
[20:53] <Coggz> !po
[20:53] <krash> spiroo: can you still use sudo?
[20:53] <Coggz> !polish
[20:53] <spiroo> krash: yes :P
[20:53] <mijagi> dzieki
[20:53] <krash> spiroo: then you have to sudo adduser root and give it proper privilages & groups
[20:53] <fernando__> coggz wich is your problem?
[20:54] <spiroo> krash: Unfortunatly I cannot reinstall anything. Only have the console to work with. I think the adduser command is not available :D Because the package is removed I think, which make adduser possible.
[20:54] <Coggz> well, im running Kubuntu 7.10 in a virtual machine on windows xp host. I want the linux machine to connectable from outside, eg elsewhere and for friends to get a taste of linux.
[20:54] <krash> spiroo: adduser should never be removed :P
[20:55] <genii> spiroo: It's a catch-22 situation.
[20:55] <spiroo> krash: I know, BUT when I upgraded it apparantly did without my knowledge.
[20:55] <spiroo> genii: What do you mean?
[20:55] <krash> spiroo: I believe genii means you're SOL but I could be wrong :P
[20:56] <genii> spiroo: Eg: You need root user to make root user.
[20:56] <spiroo> lol :D
[20:56] <spiroo> Well, I have a root user account.
[20:56] <krash> Coggz: You behind a router?
[20:57] <genii> spiroo: Can you successfully run sudo with that user?
[20:57] <spiroo> The problem as I know it, my account refers to the root account, which does not exist.
[20:57] <Coggz> krash: yes, but i have dyndns forwarding my dynamic ip
[20:57] <spiroo> genii: Yes, I think so. Problem goes when I am trying to install something in aptitude.
[20:58] <krash> Coggz: Okay you going to let them vnc yeah?
[20:58] <Hexagown> Hello guys, now I have the 32bit vesion on Kubuntu
[20:58] <genii> spiroo: Does:  cat /etc/apsswd|grep root            show something like: root:x:0:0:root:/root:/bin/bash                      ?
[20:58] <krash> Coggz: and what virtual machine you using? vmware, virtualbox?
[20:58] <Coggz> krash: yes, thats the plan
[20:59] <Coggz> krash: virtual box
[20:59] <spiroo> genii: I do not know, I cannot test because I am in Vista for the moment.
[20:59] <krash> Coggz: Do you have a port forwareded to the machine for the vnc connection?
[20:59] <genii> Hexagown: Congrats :) The very first way that was tried on your card might work now
[21:00] <spiroo> genii: All GUI:s is gone! :D Because every single kde4 package was removed, almost ...
[21:00] <mrksbrd> anyone have anyidea wht i'm getting this error .....Bad device-uri "Lpd://192.168.1.106/L1"!
[21:00] <Hexagown> Yes, I did wrong before :D
[21:00] <Coggz> krash: yes, to the virtual machine, or to the internet, I have port 5900 to the internet but nothing else
[21:00] <ScorpKing> genii: and maybe grep passwd file for uid's above 1000? ;)
[21:00] <mrksbrd> trying to config CUPS
[21:00] <Hexagown> And now I have the OS at my language too :D
[21:00] <mrksbrd> to use with print server
[21:01] <krash> Coggz: port 5900 has to be forwarded <from> the net <to> the ip address of the computer running virtualbox...virtualbox should be able to open port 5900 unless it's used by another program
[21:01] <sarir> !uri
[21:01] <sarir> uff
[21:01] <spiroo> genii: Do you know if it is possible to fix dpkg. I need to re-install those programs I lost.
[21:02] <Hexagown> genii, can you send the drivers for DWA547 agan please?
[21:02] <Coggz> krash: right, my pc, IP: 192.168.0.6 has the virtual machine, Router is 192.168.0.1
[21:02] <Coggz> krash: i have forwarded the port 5900 to that IP too
[21:02] <spiroo> Thats the thing I hate with every single operative system. You cannot do a rollback .... Would be great if you could make every single setting goes to default values and it begins as it was when you installed it at the first time.
[21:03] <krash> Coggz: and you have a vnc server running in the ubuntu vm?
[21:03] <Coggz> yes, tightvncserver
[21:04] <krash> Coggz: can you connect to it from the windows machine?
[21:05] <ryan_rohypnol> I have a question about sound I got my sound to work but everytime I restart I have to re enter the reset command to maek the sound work any suggestions?
[21:05] <Coggz> krash: no, i have tightvncviewer, but cannot seem to connect
[21:06] <mrksbrd> !cups
[21:06] <krash> Coggz: can you connect inside the virtual machine?
[21:07] <Hexagown> Ehum, how do I start Envy, what command?
[21:07] <krash> Coggz: which is a bad idea btw, cause it'll go through an infinite loop but need to find out if it's running properly :P
[21:07] <Coggz> krash: ill just try... how do i connect from linux?
[21:07] <genii> Hexagown: The instructions we originally tried http://www.uluga.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=490500  from about post3     need also the inf stuff: http://www.uluga.ubuntuforums.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=37973&d=1184235806  which rename to zip and extract somewhere that you specify path to ndiswrapper in the other commands from the 3rd post on there
[21:08] <krash> vncviewer <host>
[21:08] <Coggz> krash: kk
[21:08] <Hexagown> Thanks
[21:08]  * Nasj back
[21:08] <krash> wb Nasj
[21:09] <krash> crap I just realized I'm still marked away and remembered why... bbiab guys
[21:09] <Coggz> krash: i think i may  need java
[21:10] <Nasj> lol
[21:10] <Nasj> krash you gonna go ?
[21:10] <krash> Well I'm supposed to be doing work here hehe
[21:11]  * krash coughs
[21:11] <krash> Let's just say I made a mess that I have to clean up :P
[21:11] <Coggz> ?
[21:11] <krash> ...before the wife gets home and buries me in the forest :P
[21:11] <krash> Coggz: You shouldn't need java
[21:12] <krash> Coggz: I believe the port issue may be a problem, don't hold me to it though, try a different port like 5901
[21:12] <Coggz> krash: well, when i went to connect, it chucked up all kinds of java errors, and i realised 'I don't have java, dammit'
[21:12] <Nasj> krash and your mother in law too
[21:13] <krash> Nasj: *laughs* naww she left thankfully
[21:13] <Coggz> that is the port i am using... but not the one i have forwardedd, doh
[21:13] <Nasj> hmm
[21:13] <krash> Coggz: 9/10 times it's a simple mistake :)
[21:13] <Nasj> I hate it
[21:13] <Coggz> ill try that out
[21:13] <Nasj> when i need to rewrite my perform
[21:13] <Nasj> so useless
[21:14] <Nasj> why cnat i just add something to auto oin
[21:14] <krash> Okay afk a bit guys gotta get *something* done here
[21:15]  * Nasj wonders what that *something* is
[21:15] <Nasj> I am guessing we'll never know for sure
[21:16] <Coggz> krash: okay, i still can't connect
[21:18] <jannikhp> anyone know of any drivers(PN800 via intergraded) for ubuntu 8.04 ? :)
[21:22] <nado> how can i change the entries in the application list?
[21:22] <nado> i gotta get rid of those old gnome app entries that i have since i installed kde
[21:23] <nado> and where can i set konqueror to be the standard application for browsing my filesystem?
[21:24] <spiroo> Im back. Well, my root account is still intact.
[21:24] <spiroo> The problem is that the group root is missing :D
[21:24] <ryan_rohypnol> Fuck this IRC rofl i'ma go make a botnet
[21:24] <ryan_rohypnol> Peacez :)
[21:25] <spiroo> "dpkg: syntax  error: unknown user group ´root´ in statoverride file"
[21:25] <genii> ryan_rohypnol: Please, watch the profanities
[21:25] <Coggz> !wtf > ryan_rohypnol
[21:25] <spiroo> genii: IS it possible to restore the root user group?
[21:26] <genii> spiroo: Probably. But I haven't had to do it before
[21:27] <Coggz> krash: u still about/
[21:27] <spiroo> genii: Neither do I ... :P Ah annoying
[21:29] <nado> where can i set konqueror to be the standard application for browsing my filesystem?
[21:29] <genii> spiroo: You might be able to do it from livecd and adding manually into places like /etc/passwd   /etc/shadow   and /etc/group      but you'd need to know what to put there
[21:29] <ryan_rohypnol> perl udp.pl 72.230.206.240 650000 PEACE IRC :)
[21:30] <spiroo> genii: Well, I am not that pro ...
[21:31] <Dustin3> ok Kubuntu peoples
[21:32] <Dustin3> I really want to use it, I tried.. I really did
[21:32] <Dustin3> I'm failing at life
[21:33] <Dustin3> I'm having an issue with GRUB
[21:33] <Dustin3> it's either not installing or if it DOES install, it won't regonize my partitions
[21:34] <genii> Dustin3: Is it some RAIDed storage?
[21:36] <mithras> is it possible to get the kipi-plugins into ubuntu without having the complete kdelibs5-dev tree installed?
[21:36] <Dustin3> genii no it's a standard SATA drive
[21:36] <Dustin3> 160GB, partitioned for Windows and Kubuntu
[21:38] <Dustin3> I had it working fine with Ubuntu 8.04
[21:38] <Dustin3> recently
[21:38] <Dustin3> but the Kubnuntu installer seems to be pooass :(
[21:39] <Dustin3> I'm downloading 8.10 beta to try it
[21:39] <ScorpKing> Dustin3: have you tried installing grub manually?
[21:39] <Dustin3> Honestly, I'm really pretty dumb
[21:39] <Dustin3> I did some research
[21:39] <Dustin3> but obviously I can't do it through Windows
[21:39] <ScorpKing> !enter
[21:40] <Dustin3> Sorry, bad habit
[21:40] <ScorpKing> np :)
[21:43] <ScorpKing> Dustin3: you can boot from the livecd and fix grub
[21:43] <Dustin3> Ahhh
[21:43] <Dustin3> ok hmm
[21:46] <ScorpKing> Dustin3: mount your root linux partition on /mnt while on the livecd. check that /mnt/boot/grub/device.map contains the correct drives and if you are happy run - sudo grubinstall --root-directory=/mnt/ hd0
[21:46] <genii> Sorry for lag, work is quite busy right now
[21:47] <ScorpKing> Dustin3: sorry that's supposed to be grub-install with the - in there
[21:47]  * ScorpKing hands genii some fresh coffee and dougnuts..
[21:48] <genii> Yay coffee!
[21:48]  * genii sips and munches
[21:48] <ScorpKing> hehe..
[21:48] <Dustin3> hmm ok
[21:49] <Dustin3> cheers guys
[21:49] <Dustin3> I'll give it a go
[21:50] <david> What command do I use to install ndiswrapper?
[21:51] <genii> sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper-utils-1.9                     for hardy
[21:51] <Hexagown> ty
[21:51] <genii> Hexagown: np
[21:54] <Hexagown> YES!! It works!!!!
[21:54] <genii> Yay!
[21:54] <Hexagown> have to reboot! ty for helping me out! :D
[21:54] <genii> Hexagown: Glad it finally got sorted out
[21:54] <Hexagown> I'm so extream happy dude, I really stupid and noobich, but I think iv leard ALOT today.
[21:55] <Hexagown> Thanks!
[21:55] <genii> Hexagown: You're welcome
[21:55] <Hexagown> I'll reboot now, cya soon
[21:55]  * ScorpKing smiles..
[21:56] <chfwiggum> gd evening irc!
[21:56] <mithras> sry for asking the same question, but is it possible to get the kipi-plugins into ubuntu without having the complete kdelibs5-dev tree installed?
[21:56]  * genii hands chfwiggum a coffee
[21:56] <chfwiggum> genii: thx a bunch
[21:56] <genii> chfwiggum: np
[21:57] <chfwiggum> is blue-ray already supported in ubuntu/linux?
[21:57] <genii> mithras: Have you tried to just sudo apt-get install kipi-plugins        ?
[21:58] <mithras> yea, it will remove the qt4 version of digikam, but i try to install the kipi-plugins for kde4
[21:58] <genii> chfwiggum: As far as I know, yes. eg: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/BluRayAndHDDVD
[21:59] <chfwiggum> genii: ty
[21:59] <mithras> digikam for kde3 is available with kipi-plugins. But they updated digikam to kde4-version and left the kipi-plugins out. Trying to compile from svn I need kdelibs5-dev, cmake sais
[21:59] <mithras> *says
[22:02] <genii> Time for me to logoff temporarily. See you all later
[22:03] <Hexagown> Well guys, Iv learned alot today, but I have to go to bed now, but I'll join in tomorrow, Bye!
[22:12] <DarkSmoke> yo
[22:12] <DarkSmoke> has yesterday's problem been fixed in intrepid?
[22:12] <DarkSmoke> the one that when you update the system there's no net ?
[22:14] <dystopianray> DarkSmoke: you'd want to ask that in #kubuntu+1
[22:22] <lockout> ouaiiiiiiiis
[22:22] <lockout> ubuntu en force
[22:25] <sarir> !devices
[22:25] <sarir> !device
[22:25] <sarir> i cant download pictures from my camera
[22:25] <sarir> through the usb.....
[22:25] <sarir> arg
[22:25] <aniita> olaa
[22:26] <itsatrick> Anybody having trouble installing KDE 4 in Ubuntu 8.10?  When I do and I log in via KDE4, I get a white screen, no kicker, and some icons that didn't load.
[22:26] <sarir> any idea how to solve the problem?
[22:26] <sarir> camera settings doesnt work
[22:26] <sarir> nothing to do
[22:30] <Dirus> is there a way to make the windows (meta) key bring up the app menu without removing the ability to make meta+KEY combos?
[22:30] <Dirus> on google all I find is people renumbering the meta key to be F13, which gets rid of it's ability to act as a modifier
[22:31] <dr_willis> #kde may know Dirus , ive seen that question asked in here befor.. personally I dont want ti to open the menu. :)  I perfer it as a modifier only key.
[22:32] <Dirus> I wouldn't use it as such either, but I'm just trying to set it up for a friend's mother and wanted to make the key bindings as close to windows as possible
[22:33] <jhutchins_wk> Dirus: I like having the left key be Menu and the right key be Meta.
[22:33] <jhutchins_wk> I like my deadkey compose strings.
[23:02] <exal> hi mrs, how are you in this beautiful day?
[23:27] <peer`> does kubuntu 7.04 have a built in utility for mounting .iso files?
[23:29] <trappist> !iso
[23:31] <peer`> now, when the image is mounted (will be mounting the Kubuntu 8.04 iso to install the OS), would it be viable to reformat the drive with new partitions while running kubuntu 7.04 off of one of those partitions or should I reformat from a LiveCD? Keep in mind I plan on doing a dual boot kubuntu/winxp pro setup.
[23:37] <rickest> LiveCD
[23:37] <peer`> alright
[23:38] <rickest> clear
[23:38] <peer`> when doing a dual boot install, should I install winxp or kubuntu furst
[23:38] <peer`> *first
[23:38] <rickest> peer`: absolutey winxp
[23:39] <peer`> alright, and in the winxp partitioner should I format it as two ntfs parts or one ntfs part and one unparted
[23:39] <rickest> the latter
[23:39] <peer`> alright
[23:39] <rickest> you don't really need to format it, just make sure an empty partition exists
[23:39] <peer`> yeah
[23:39] <peer`> well that's what I was asking
[23:40] <rickest> kubuntu will, I believe, recommend ext3 which should be good for you
[23:40] <peer`> yeah, it uses ext3
[23:40] <peer`> i installed 7.04 earlier today
[23:40] <peer`> before realizing that
[23:41] <peer`> 1. I could still need winxp, 2. there's a newer distro
[23:41] <rickest> heh.  if you ever do linux THEN XP, it can be fixed but you'll need a LiveCD again and a little knowledge on reinstalling grub
[23:41] <peer`> oh crap
[23:41] <peer`> haha
[23:41] <peer`> well
[23:41] <peer`> I am pretty much
[23:41] <peer`> the definition of noob
[23:42] <rickest> we all are about something  :)
[23:42] <peer`> in the terminal window
[23:42] <peer`> I can
[23:42] <peer`> man stuff
[23:42] <peer`> and xeyes
[23:42] <rickest> xeyes++  that one goes way back, you use a mac before?
[23:43] <peer`> yeah way back when
[23:43] <peer`> like Macintosh II
[23:43] <peer`> I still have my tetris and simcity floppies for the Mac II
[23:43] <rickest> lol sweet
[23:43] <peer`> yeah
[23:43] <peer`> tetris, super tetris and simcity
[23:44] <peer`> how stable is KDE4.1.2?
[23:44] <rickest> have heard mostly good but haven't tried it personally
[23:45] <peer`> Is KDE 4.0 stable?
[23:45] <peer`> I want to run KDE 4.x but don't want to run an unstable environment
[23:45] <rickest> I'm still on 3.5.9
[23:46] <peer`> ah
[23:50] <nelsonstreet> Anyone get VLC player to work on Kubuntu yet?
[23:55] <PEAKTOP> how to completely remove kubuntu-desktop ?
[23:56] <user_> hey
[23:56] <dr_Willis> fire up the package manager, search for kde, start removing things. is one way
[23:56] <dr_Willis> !puregnome
[23:56] <dr_Willis> is another way. follow that guide.
[23:56] <dr_Willis> Good Luck