| * ogra has massive probs trying to build amitk's linux-lpia package, wasnt the bi check dropped in intrepid ? | 01:18 | |
| ogra | http://launchpadlibrarian.net/18547672/buildlog_ubuntu-intrepid-lpia.linux-lpia_2.6.27-4.6_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz shows that it fails in abi-check-lpia even though i added appropriate ignore files | 01:20 |
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| * ogra gives up and hopes someone else will then build a -4 kernel for lpia | 01:27 | |
| maestrolinux | Hola | 02:14 |
| maestrolinux | alguien sabe donde descargar el 2.6.27 x64 deb | 02:15 |
| rafal | hi | 02:28 |
| rafal | are there some test versions for 2.6.27 yet? im on 8.04 adm64 | 02:28 |
| === rafal is now known as limcore | ||
| persia | limcore, Test versions for 2.6.27 exist only in 8.10. 8.04 is exceedingly unlikely to receive them. | 03:08 |
| limcore | can I somehow test 8,10's kernel and perhaps drivers, while remaining (other software) at 8.04? | 03:10 |
| CMD_L1N3 | hello | 03:19 |
| CMD_L1N3 | my question is about kernel devel but about the kernel i think | 03:19 |
| CMD_L1N3 | i just updated my kernel and now my printer doesn't work | 03:19 |
| === bdmurray_ is now known as bdmurray | ||
| NCommander | I have some questions on how the ubuntu git tree rebases new releases into the tree | 07:39 |
| * NCommander is attemtping to figure out how to rebase the linux-ports tree | 07:39 | |
| NCommander | The log on some of the tags suggests its merged and not rebased on a new release, but I'm not sure if thats right or not | 07:40 |
| === mdz_ is now known as mdz | ||
| mdz | can anyone tell me what this means? | 10:32 |
| mdz | ACPI: EC: missing confirmations, switch off interrupt mode. | 10:32 |
| mdz | ACPI Exception (evregion-0419): AE_TIME, Returned by Handler for [EmbeddedControl] [20080609] | 10:32 |
| mdz | kernel problem or BIOS problem? | 10:32 |
| === asac_ is now known as asac | ||
| apw | mdz, they don't exactly have a lot of helpful comments in there do they | 11:02 |
| NCommander | Anyone here a kernel git wizard? | 11:03 |
| * NCommander is trying to figure out how to rebase the git repo without it exploding in my face | 11:03 | |
| apw | which repo you looking at | 11:04 |
| NCommander | linux-ports | 11:06 |
| * NCommander kicks xchat | 11:06 | |
| NCommander | I'm trying to rebase from 2.5.24 which is the basis of that repo against linus 2.6.27 tree | 11:06 |
| NCommander | But I don't think I"m doing it right since I either seem to pull old patches into the tree, or it stops every patch with a conflicts | 11:07 |
| apw | thats a big jump | 11:07 |
| apw | can you paste the url you cloned the original from | 11:07 |
| apw | then i can try it and see what it does to me | 11:07 |
| NCommander | Yeah | 11:08 |
| NCommander | But the ports tree has relatively few Ubuntu specific patches | 11:08 |
| NCommander | apw, http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git?p=ubuntu/ubuntu-intrepid-ports.git;a=summary | 11:09 |
| NCommander | (thats the ubuntu/ubuntu-intrepid-ports.git branch) | 11:09 |
| NCommander | Personally, my gut instinct is to merge, but thats a bad idea since the Ubuntu patches will get pushed into the history instead of sitting ontop | 11:09 |
| apw | my gut concurs | 11:10 |
| * NCommander notes he has a dislike for git | 11:10 | |
| NCommander | Damn tool nearly as painful to use as CVS when it comes to preventing yourself from shooting yourself in the foot | 11:11 |
| NCommander | and it used to be close to arch in terms of user friendlyness :-P | 11:11 |
| apw | they do appear to be merging the stable branch in there | 11:13 |
| NCommander | The ports repo has seen no love this release | 11:14 |
| NCommander | Myself and TheMuso are working to make at least powerpc ports not suck | 11:15 |
| apw | my rebase stops on the first patch with what appears to be a trivial merge which i would have expected git to detect and merge | 11:20 |
| NCommander | yeah | 11:21 |
| NCommander | Same problem | 11:21 |
| NCommander | It looks like they did SOMETHING to break the repos history | 11:21 |
| NCommander | But of which I'm am unsure | 11:21 |
| NCommander | I'm tempted just to take the debian folder, and start with a fresh 2.6.27 tree | 11:22 |
| NCommander | hey BenC | 11:24 |
| NCommander | BenC, I was wondering if you can help solve a rebasing mystery with linux-ports (and help create a kernel.u.c account) | 11:25 |
| apw | NCommander: went through the whole rebase, can't say i was very careful but the main pain is near t | 11:47 |
| apw | the beginning, most of the merges seemed pretty and most of the last bunch of patches rebased ok | 11:47 |
| === BenC1 is now known as BenC | ||
| === pgraner_ is now known as pgraner | ||
| zul | rtg: the patch is attached to the email I sent to the kernel team mailing list | 14:59 |
| rtg | zul: i saw that, but I'm lazy and git pulls take 2 commands. | 15:00 |
| zul | rtg: im lazy too and I dont have the git tree setup for intrepid | 15:00 |
| rtg | zul: so what is this: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git?p=chucks/ubuntu-intrepid.git;a=commit;h=73d6bbb5e0dcdb902c37ef2bc2925de600dd0172 | 15:01 |
| zul | old junk git tree | 15:01 |
| D2_WON | Hi guys, i have a problem... i have installed Kernel-2.6.24.21-rt on Ubuntu Hardy by linux-rt package. After a while time, the system crashes and generate I/O Error, and i can not run any process. Sorry for my bad English. | 15:03 |
| abogani | D2_WON: Can you report exactly the I/O Error? | 15:07 |
| === limcore is now known as limcore_ | ||
| abogani | persia, rtg : I just uploaded a synced version of the rt patchset on my PPA (against 2.6.27 7.11) together to lrm-rt package. Moreover I have tested rt kernel with DKMS packages (in my case with nvidia video driver) and it works. | 16:02 |
| elmargol | Is there a new feature in intrepid to change the clock speed of my nvidia GPU? or memory? | 16:42 |
| rtg | BenC: so what is the new firmware package? my i3945 isn't working too well after an update a few minutes ago. | 17:39 |
| BenC | rtg: linux-firmware, but it isn't up yet | 18:12 |
| rtg | BenC: its breaking my rice bowl. no firmware, no wireless. | 18:13 |
| rtg | BenC: I sure like this USB stick as an install medium. cuts it down to about 8 minutes. | 18:41 |
| BenC | I need to set mine back up | 18:43 |
| BenC | I wonder when the next publisher run is...linux-firmware is still pending | 18:44 |
| BenC | rtg: do you want me to just send you the firmware file? | 18:44 |
| rtg | BenC: I've been using Evan's usb-creator package. | 18:44 |
| rtg | BenC: I'm just reinstalling. I had a version that worked, so I'll just avoid updating. the i3945 issue is related to kernel and not much else. | 18:45 |
| BenC | rtg: zinc:~bcollins/ if you need it | 18:45 |
| rtg | BenC: 'tanks | 18:45 |
| ScottK | What source package provides linux-firmware? My test server (running the server kernel) can't seem to find it and so is a bit stuck at the moment. | 18:57 |
| rtg | ScottK: wait until the archive catches up. its in a bit of flux right now. | 18:58 |
| ScottK | OK. | 18:58 |
| === ogra_ is now known as ogra | ||
| chrisf_ | has beenc been around? | 19:47 |
| chrisf_ | benc | 19:47 |
| chrisf_ | hey ben :) | 19:53 |
| ogra | speaking of the devil :) | 19:53 |
| chrisf_ | i know him | 19:53 |
| chrisf_ | its been quite awhile since i spoke to him tho | 19:53 |
| ogra | so my sentence is even more true :) | 19:53 |
| chrisf_ | yeah! | 19:53 |
| ogra | (he hides his little horns under a basecap since i know him ;) ) | 19:53 |
| chrisf_ | heheheh | 19:54 |
| chrisf_ | right now i am thinking of fooling around with the kernel as usual :) | 19:54 |
| chrisf_ | fix this nvidia bug once and for all | 19:54 |
| chrisf_ | its driving me crazy | 19:54 |
| ogra | just get better HW :) | 19:55 |
| * ogra is all intel on his laptop | 19:55 | |
| chrisf_ | hehehehe | 19:55 |
| chrisf_ | i wish :P | 19:55 |
| chrisf_ | if i had the cash, i would buy all amd | 19:56 |
| chrisf_ | and use a company that supports linux | 19:56 |
| ogra | heh | 19:56 |
| chrisf_ | timecop on that other network i chat on, will be mad that i ditched windows | 19:57 |
| chrisf_ | but vista sucks | 19:57 |
| chrisf_ | this is much nicer | 19:57 |
| ogra | yeah | 19:58 |
| laga_ | timecop? i think that rings a bell | 19:59 |
| chrisf_ | yeah ben and i know him | 19:59 |
| chrisf_ | he is on efnet | 19:59 |
| laga_ | the GNAA guy? | 19:59 |
| chrisf_ | i hardly ever go on efnet anymore | 19:59 |
| chrisf_ | yeah | 19:59 |
| laga_ | oh god ;) | 19:59 |
| chrisf_ | i dont op on his channel lwz anymore | 20:00 |
| chrisf_ | i dont know if its apropriate to use teh full channel name here on freenode | 20:00 |
| chrisf_ | dont know the aup | 20:00 |
| chrisf_ | the network i chat on now, does not like people to mention anything about p2p and other grey area things.. | 20:01 |
| chrisf_ | laga_: did you talk on lwz on efnet before? | 20:01 |
| laga_ | no. | 20:02 |
| chrisf_ | i used to op there many moons agao | 20:02 |
| chrisf_ | before timecop was in GNAA | 20:02 |
| chrisf_ | laga: i quit going there because my interests are not in computers as much anymore | 20:04 |
| mdz | rtg: I tried unloading and reloading iwl3945 and its dependencies a few hundred times on davidm's machine, and can't get it to crash | 20:18 |
| rtg | mdz: BenC and I are speculating its an interrupt problem. He pointed out a bug report that says something else: http://www.intellinuxwireless.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1778#c15 | 20:19 |
| BenC | mdz: It seems to be a race with other modules loading in parallel | 20:20 |
| BenC | guessing on the same IRQ (not much reason for a race otherwise) | 20:20 |
| rtg | mdz: can you 'cat /proc/interrupts' on Davids machine? | 20:22 |
| BenC | chrisf_: if you want to go all opensource, buy intel :) | 20:22 |
| chrisf_ | yeah :) | 20:22 |
| chrisf_ | ben: i guess iam behind the times LOL | 20:22 |
| chrisf_ | BenC: Long time no see! :) | 20:22 |
| mdz | rtg: http://paste.ubuntu.com/58006/ | 20:24 |
| mdz | 217: 99246 0 PCI-MSI-edge iwl3945 | 20:24 |
| rtg | mdz: ah, try booting with nomsi (after removing the /etc/modprobe.d load delay) | 20:25 |
| BenC | hmm...MSI | 20:26 |
| rtg | mdz: rather, thats 'pci=nomsi' | 20:26 |
| BenC | we had to disable MSI by default on a previous release, but I think it was affecting e1000 | 20:27 |
| BenC | chrisf_: yeah, been awhile | 20:27 |
| rtg | yeah, but the 3945 is about the same vintage | 20:27 |
| chrisf_ | ben: congratulations in being a part of the ubuntu team :) | 20:29 |
| BenC | rtg: oooh...someone on the original bug report did mention that disabling iwl3945(rfkill) and using e1000 resulted in a hang as well | 20:29 |
| BenC | chrisf_: Thanks, been here more than 3 years now :) | 20:30 |
| chrisf_ | ben: now i have two things i want to play with ubuntu muhahha installing WoW and getting nvidia's piece of trash top run on this | 20:30 |
| chrisf_ | i am already having WoW withdrawals | 20:31 |
| mdz | davidm: ^^ | 20:31 |
| BenC | chrisf_: install Ubuntu, and you should get nvidia enabled without much problem | 20:31 |
| chrisf_ | yeah i have ibex on here now | 20:31 |
| chrisf_ | and nvidia is being a little *** to me | 20:32 |
| rtg | chrisf_: nvidia-glx-177 ? | 20:32 |
| BenC | chrisf_: System => Administration => Hardware Drivers | 20:32 |
| chrisf_ | naww card is too old | 20:32 |
| chrisf_ | nvidia-glx-96 | 20:32 |
| BenC | chrisf_: that panel will tell you exactly which one you need, and install it for you | 20:32 |
| mdz | rtg: I've spoken to davidm, and have him trying two things | 20:33 |
| chrisf_ | yeah it wont install or compile the module | 20:33 |
| BenC | chrisf_: what's the compile log say? | 20:34 |
| rtg | mdz: make sure he's remove the modprobe load delay. | 20:34 |
| mdz | rtg: 1. reproducing the failure with an instrumented modprobe, so that we can try to see which modules are being loaded in which order at the point when it hangs | 20:34 |
| mdz | rtg: 2. pci=nomsi | 20:34 |
| mdz | rtg: I already did | 20:34 |
| rtg | mdz: cool | 20:34 |
| BenC | mdz: that's likely to be enough to offset the race to not happen | 20:34 |
| mdz | BenC: I told him how to back it out in case it doesn't trigger anymore | 20:34 |
| chrisf_ | Error! Bad return status for module build on kernel: 2.6.27-7-generic (i686) | 20:37 |
| chrisf_ | Consult the make.log in the build directory | 20:37 |
| chrisf_ | /var/lib/dkms/nvidia/96.43.05/build/ for more information. | 20:37 |
| chrisf_ | Installing initial module | 20:37 |
| chrisf_ | Error! Could not locate nvidia.ko for module nvidia in the DKMS tree. | 20:37 |
| chrisf_ | You must run a dkms build for kernel 2.6.27-7-generic (i686) first. | 20:37 |
| chrisf_ | Done. | 20:38 |
| tseliot1 | chrisf_: see this bug report: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/251107 | 20:38 |
| tseliot1 | it doesn't depend on us | 20:38 |
| chrisf_ | yeah nvidia | 20:39 |
| chrisf_ | hasnt fixed there stuff | 20:39 |
| mdz | BenC,rtg: he's just hung it with pci=nomsi | 20:47 |
| rtg | drat | 20:47 |
| chrisf_ | ben: hehe i am no longer in florida | 20:47 |
| chrisf_ | this place is for the birds | 20:47 |
| chrisf_ | i hate the cold weather! | 20:48 |
| mdz | rtg,BenC: is there any way to get the kernel to log a message whenever a module is loaded? that would be handy here | 20:51 |
| rtg | mdz: I'm not seeing anything. | 20:53 |
| mdz | rtg,BenC: I've just noticed that david has a modified boot process which is loading modules in parallel with the rest of the boot process | 20:58 |
| rtg | mdz: how is his different then Jane's ? | 20:58 |
| mdz | rtg: I don't have access to Jane's system at the moment, but I highly doubt she would have that change | 20:59 |
| mdz | it might be a useful way to try to trigger the problem though, dunno | 20:59 |
| rtg | mdz: I'm sure her's is stock. | 20:59 |
| mdz | rtg: you can try it by commenting out the logic which calls udevsettle in /etc/init.d/udev | 21:01 |
| mdz | rtg,BenC: do we have any strong indications that either silbs or davidm's problem is actually related to 3945? | 21:03 |
| BenC | mdz: yes | 21:03 |
| BenC | mdz: sleeping 5 seconds before loading 3945 solves it | 21:04 |
| mdz | BenC: given that it's a race, that workaround you provided could easily throw things out of whack and cause it to not trigger | 21:04 |
| mdz | even if the problem isn't in 3945 | 21:04 |
| BenC | mdz: the bug report has 10 dupes and lots of subs that all have found it to be iwl3945 (blacklisting other modules doesn't help) | 21:04 |
| BenC | 3945 is the common factor | 21:05 |
| mdz | BenC: the description says that -1 worked while -2 didn't. has anyone bisected? | 21:05 |
| mdz | or reviewed the diff? | 21:05 |
| chrisf_ | hmm aptitude is pretty nice | 21:06 |
| BenC | I haven't | 21:06 |
| BenC | but then, I can't reproduce it either | 21:06 |
| chrisf_ | ben: from what i am reading, nvidia really doesnt want to support legacy users | 21:07 |
| BenC | mdz, rtg: Got to get a kid off the bus and fix dinner... | 21:08 |
| mdz | iwl3945 didn't change at all between -1.2 and -2.3 | 21:13 |
| rtg | mdz: as far as I can tell, it's had no love in awhile. | 21:13 |
| chrisf_ | well i gotta reboot, as i was speaking they updated the nvidia packages | 21:14 |
| chrisf_ | reboot | 21:14 |
| rtg | mdz: 32 bit kernel? | 21:15 |
| davidm | rtg, in conversation with mdz I just realized that while I have the Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG hardware I am not really using it as my machine is hooked via Ethernet | 21:21 |
| rtg | davidm: its still loading, and that is when you are getting hung up. | 21:21 |
| rtg | davidm: that's a 32 bit kernel, right? | 21:22 |
| davidm | yes | 21:22 |
| davidm | 32 bit machine | 21:22 |
| rtg | davidm: maybe thats why I can't repro. I'm resinstalling with i386 | 21:22 |
| davidm | my Ethernet controller is Intel Corporation 82573L Gigabit Ethernet Controller | 21:23 |
| rtg | davidm: e1000e ? | 21:24 |
| davidm | Yes | 21:25 |
| davidm | This 'pci=nomsi' did not effect the bug, still happened. | 21:26 |
| rtg | davidm: yep, heard that. | 21:26 |
| davidm | rtg, OK, just making sure :-) | 21:26 |
| rtg | davidm: drat, I'm 10 for 10 on a 32 bit kernel. no hangs. I'm gonna blast off for awhile.back in a couple hours. | 21:41 |
| mdz | davidm: please put that info into the bug as well, bug 263059 seems closest | 21:50 |
| NCommander | hold BenC | 22:01 |
| NCommander | *hola | 22:01 |
| mdz | BenC,rtg: davidm just managed to reproduce without usplash, on a text console | 22:36 |
| mdz | BenC,rtg: seems like a hard hang, no sysrq possible | 22:39 |
| NCommander | BenC, I sent you an email requesting a kernel.u.c account so I can work on the linux-ports tree for PowerPC. | 22:40 |
| mdz | I'm having him attach a photo to the bug | 22:40 |
| mdz | rtg: he has it reproducing on the console more often than not. maybe we should try instrumenting the driver to see where it's breaking? | 22:50 |
| davidm | hellp | 22:51 |
| davidm | hello | 22:51 |
| davidm | that is | 22:51 |
| davidm | rtg, my laptop is now doing 3+ out of 5 locking at boot with usplash not in boot so you can see much better what is going on. | 22:51 |
| davidm | rtg, do you or pete want my laptop for testing? I can fedex out tonight | 22:52 |
| davidm | rtg, pgraner either of you about? | 22:59 |
| ARCKEDA | Lovely. | 23:00 |
| mdz | davidm: tried phoning pgraner? | 23:00 |
| davidm | I did no answer home or cell | 23:00 |
| davidm | I'm about to call Tim | 23:00 |
| mdz | davidm: random theory: could you try temporarily disabling the hwclock init script, which runs directly after S10udev, and see if that affects it? | 23:11 |
| davidm | Will do | 23:14 |
| davidm | about to reboot. | 23:16 |
| davidm | OK that was fun, mdz no real change, first two boots good, next 4 NG then a good one and I'm here reporting. | 23:30 |
| mdz | davidm: thanks for checking | 23:30 |
| mdz | davidm: since you've had a few more boots, can you comment on https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/263059/comments/95 ? | 23:30 |
| davidm | NP, for sure it's more broken then not at this point. | 23:30 |
| davidm | Will do | 23:31 |
| mdz | davidm: if we can confirm that, it should narrow the field a lot, and perhaps rtg can chase it down | 23:31 |
| davidm | It stops in differnt places, sometimes at the channels line, sometimes past that into another driver | 23:32 |
| mdz | davidm: I know, but I'm only interested in the lines coming from 3945 and 80211 | 23:33 |
| mdz | davidm: the normal sequence is: | 23:33 |
| mdz | [ 17.379861] iwl3945: Detected Intel Wireless WiFi Link 3945ABG | 23:33 |
| mdz | [ 17.523620] iwl3945: Tunable channels: 11 802.11bg, 13 802.11a channels | 23:33 |
| mdz | [ 17.524272] phy0: Selected rate control algorithm 'iwl-3945-rs' | 23:33 |
| mdz | but I have never seen it get as far as that third line when it hangs | 23:33 |
| davidm | OK, I'll go punch the reboot button a bunch more and pay close attention to the lockup points. | 23:34 |
| davidm | back in a bit. | 23:34 |
| davidm | I have my shipping box by the by so I can send this unit out. | 23:34 |
| davidm | OK, documented a series of hangs one after the other. | 23:56 |
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