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NanoRoboti have a back up of old xorg.conf file, but don't know how to replace it, because don't know how to load command line. Are there any hot keys , not to load gui ?00:01
ogratry ctrl-alt-f100:02
NanoRobotno,  ctrl-alt-f1 has no success. I think i have only one way - boot from flash, right ?00:05
ografrom the usb key ? yes, that might help00:24
loolI think I kicked -psb in hardy and in intrepid decently for today00:33
NanoRobotogra: I need a bit to sleep .I will continue the next day. Good buy. Thank you very much for your help !00:34
* ogra still waits if linux-lpia survives00:34
ograNanoRobot, you're welcome, i'll be here tomorrow and others too :)00:35
loolOh right, I also have ppc64 at home, didn't realize00:35
loolToo bad I don't have a live image00:35
ograwow, you have ppc64 ? 00:35
loolYeah, PS300:35
* ogra only has ppc and mips 00:35
ogragah00:36
ogranow i'm envious00:36
* ogra has a Xbox first gen ...00:36
looland I never play it00:36
ograbecause MS paid for it i *had* to buy it00:36
loolhaha00:36
ograand 6 games00:36
loolI have 2 games, one being a prerelease of a game00:36
ograi fifnshed two of them in the five years i got the box00:37
ograand you cant even get and new ones anymore for it :/00:37
loolah00:38
ograso i could at least collect games i dont play :P00:38
ogralast kernel build failed after 47 min ... i guess if it survives 1h we're safe and i'll go to bed ... lrm and meta tomorrow then00:39
ograonly 20 min to go :)00:40
ograthe buildds are not really faster than anything i have at home ...00:41
loolthey are under xen, and might even do multiple builds at once though :)00:41
ografor lpia ? 00:41
ogra:)00:41
loolyeah00:41
loolthey are under xen for lpia00:42
ograi meant multiple builds :)00:42
loolheh why not00:43
looleverything is built for lpia00:43
ograoh, sweet, https://bugs.launchpad.net/+builds/molybdenum actually shows whats going on00:43
ograi wish it had autorefersh00:44
* lool waves 'night00:59
ograGRRRR !01:06
ografaled again, even with abi ignore files01:06
* ogra gives up01:29
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loolpersia: Did you see any geode based netbooks?  I'll prepare a lpia openchrome as I think you saw some netbooks with openchrome, but I'm less tempted with geode because we're in sync with debian11:24
ogrageode is broken anyway11:25
ograits supposed to be replaced with something non backward compatible 11:25
loolit is?11:25
ograupstream doesnt want to forward port old code and writes something from scratch11:26
ograbest talk to Q-Funk about it, he is workig closely with upstream11:27
ograi might have misunderstood him11:27
loologra: But why is it currently broken?11:28
ograwasnt ported to Xorg 1.5 afaik11:28
ogrado we have it in -all ? 11:28
loolI dropped it in lpia11:28
loolbut it's listed in i38611:29
ograyeah, we do11:29
loolIt seems it was rebuilt for 1.511:29
ograi'll ask Q-Funk if he is online, he's a resident in #ltsp11:29
loologra: can you check whether it has the proper provides?11:29
ograhah, speaking of the devil11:30
loologra: thanks; if you like you can suggest inclusion of lpia11:30
loolbut then, you might want to mention we might drop it in subsequent ubuntu releases11:30
ograwell, geode and lpia makes s much snese as openchrome and lpia ...11:31
ogrageode is an integrated gpu/cpu chip11:32
ogralike the C7 usually has the graphics ship builtin11:32
ograboth need the 586 instruction set11:32
ograwhich lpia doesnt have11:32
ograwith more netbooks coming up with such arches we should really start building -mid for i386 instread11:33
loolI pushed openchrome for lpia11:33
ograthough i ony hve seen via yet11:34
loologra: err lpia has 58611:34
ogra# CONFIG_M386 is not set11:35
ogra# CONFIG_M486 is not set11:35
ogra# CONFIG_M586MMX is not set11:35
ogra# CONFIG_M586TSC is not set11:35
ogranot in what i uploaded yesterday11:35
loolright, it's 68611:35
loolI misparsed what you meant11:36
loolYou were saying that C7 only supports up to 58611:37
ograright, geode and C7 both use 586 instructions 11:37
loologra: So -geode wont make sense on lpia anytime soon11:37
loolok11:37
loologra: And what about openchrome?  I see it's built for amd6411:37
loolI guess some chips come with 686 CPUs11:38
ograwell, there are probably ways to put a geode gpu only chip into atom or via gpu only 11:38
ograi havent seen them yet though11:38
loolI doubt you'll find geode + atom11:38
loolBut then ICBW11:39
ograall a matter of the right soldering i guess ... if people would do it is a different thing :)11:39
loologra: Hmm isn't it that -nsc is being merged in geode?11:39
ogrageode is amd owned, so amd64 + geode is somewhat a natural thing11:40
ograno11:40
ogra-amd was moved to -geode11:40
loolDescription-fr: X.Org X server -- NSC Geode GX1 display driver11:40
ograright11:40
lool  [ Julien Cristau ]11:40
lool  * vars.*: Drop nsc from video-all.  It was only ever useful on i386 anyway,11:40
lool    and should get integrated into geode at some point.11:40
ograthere are the LX and ... DX i think ... chipsets11:41
ograthe Dx is the old one for which you used -nsc11:41
ograLX is the new one which used to use -amd which then was renamed to -geode11:41
ograsince both have the same manufacturer it makes sense to merge nsc into eode11:42
ogra*geode11:42
Q-FUNKogra: ?12:00
Q-FUNKwhat about nsc versus geode?12:01
ogralool, ^^^ here is the man that can answer all the questions :)12:01
loolQ-FUNK: Hey, will nsc be merged in geode in the future?12:03
loolCause I just merged dropping nsc from video-all for lpia12:03
Q-FUNKyup, nsc will b e merged in geode12:06
Q-FUNKhttp://wiki.x.org/wiki/AMDGeodeDriver#preview12:07
Q-FUNKand cyrix too12:07
loolOk, not sure whether it was time to drop it from video-all, but anyway12:07
Q-FUNKit can be12:08
Q-FUNKit's supposed to be i386-only anyhow12:08
loolQ-FUNK: Another couple of questions; lpia is 686, is it possible to combine a) openchrome with i686 and b) geode with i686 capable CPUs?12:08
Q-FUNKI'm still baffled as to how it even build on !i386 platforms12:08
Q-FUNKcome again?12:08
Q-FUNKexactly how is openchrome related to geode?12:09
Q-FUNKone is for the via chipset and the other for the geode chipset12:09
loolQ-FUNK: Ok, just skip a), I thought you also cared about openchrome12:10
Q-FUNKor were you talking about build options?12:10
Q-FUNKah12:10
Q-FUNKbut basically, geode can be built with -m686 if desired, yes, AFAIK12:10
loolQ-FUNK: Is it possible to use it in a 686 hardware configuration?12:11
loolIt probably builds on alpha and powerpc as well, but I don't think you can combine a geode-supported chip with these arches for example12:12
Q-FUNKgeode only builds on i386 and amd64, so far.  lpia probably works also, but is untested.12:12
loolNote, my question is not about building; I wonder whether hardware configs with 686 and geode-supported graphics exist?12:13
Q-FUNKgeode is x86 by definition, since the video is integrated with the x86 cpu12:13
loolI don't doubt it would build on lpia12:13
loollpia is x86, but it's i68612:14
Q-FUNKold cyrix and nsc geode are essentially i58612:14
Q-FUNKIIRC GX2 is also 586, but LX might be 68612:14
Q-FUNKbrb12:15
loolQ-FUNK: Let me ask that differently, we have the lpia arch, and the Ubuntu MID images using this arch; some people would like to use Ubuntu MID or the packages from the lpia arch in general, but we don't know whether we should make geode available on that arch12:15
loolblah12:15
ograwell, i think if he's right with LX it might make sense to have the LX driver12:18
loolYeah, so enabling geode on lpia12:19
ograright12:19
ogra This X.org server module supports the AMD Geode GX2/LX video chipsets.12:19
loolBut since he's the maintainer of the git tree, I'd like to ask him to add lpia12:19
ograthough the description talks abotu GX2 *and* LX12:19
loolThat's fine12:20
ograyeah12:20
ogralool, eeek, you dropped i81012:20
loolyes12:20
ograthat might get oem in trouble12:20
loolxserver-xorg-video-i81012:20
lool This is a transitional package providing the Xorg video driver for the12:21
lool Intel i8xx and i9xx family of chipsets, and can be safely removed.12:21
ograthe i810 driver is the only one still supporting panning12:21
ograugh12:21
loolIt's in -intel now12:21
loolAIUI12:21
ograthen we cant support cmpc anymore12:21
ogra-intel is definately linked to xrandr 12:21
lool*I* didn't break it :-)12:21
ograi810 hed some hacks that made the Virtual option switch to panning instead of a virtual desktop12:22
ograthey are not compatible with the intel driver12:22
Q-FUNKre12:22
loolQ-FUNK: Let me ask that differently, we have the lpia arch, and the Ubuntu MID images using this arch; some people would like to use Ubuntu MID or the packages from the lpia arch in general, but we don't know whether we should make geode available on that arch12:22
ograQ-FUNK, so enabling geode on lpia seems to make sense 12:22
loolQ-FUNK: it might be that geode LX supports i686, in which case it would be nice to list lpia in the arch list for geode12:22
Q-FUNKit would12:22
ograaccording to your comment that LX might be 68612:23
Q-FUNKcan we enable it as a test and see if it builds?12:23
ografreeze is on thu. not sure how much we can shuffle after that12:23
Q-FUNKif it does, I'll just add it to the upstream debian package's arch list and to the hardy-backports12:23
loolQ-FUNK: Thanks; NB this probably need a Pas update as well12:25
loolI just maield the Pas maintainers12:26
Q-FUNKthere is a p-a-s at ubuntu also?12:27
loolIt's shared with Debian, yes12:28
Q-FUNKalso, we still don't have any lpia arch at debian, do we?12:28
Q-FUNKthanks for mailing p-a-s maintainers12:28
loolIt's supported in Debian's dpkg, but Debian isn't built for lpia that I know of12:28
Q-FUNKok, that's what I thought12:29
loolQ-FUNK: I just built -geode on intrepid lpia12:30
loolBy appending lpia to Architecture: lines12:30
Q-FUNKworked?12:30
Q-FUNKok, I'll add it then12:30
loolWell I don't have anything to test it12:30
loolit built the _drv.so and hte xvmc libs at least12:31
Q-FUNKthat sounds like a good start12:32
Q-FUNKhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-geode/+bug/25599112:32
ubottuLaunchpad bug 255991 in xserver-xorg-video-geode "xf86-video-geode:  DDC probing broken on GX2/CS5535 since 2.9.0 (patch)" [Undecided,Fix released] 12:32
Q-FUNKlool: I'll add it to the debian/experimental package now.  could you sponsor it?12:33
Q-FUNKthen we can sync to intrepid 12:33
loolI'm not sure I understand where you want me to sponsor?  to intrepid to then sync to intrepid?!12:33
loolI can sponsor the SRU, but I don't see how this relates to a sync12:35
Q-FUNKto experimental, then sync to intrepid12:35
Q-FUNKintrepid currently uses the experimental package from debian12:36
loolOk, is sponsoring to experimental related to above bug?  Or should I just sponsor what's in git to experimental?12:36
Q-FUNKwe don't use git yet12:36
Q-FUNKgoede is not maintained by XSF12:37
loolBut it's at git://anongit.freedesktop.org/git/xorg/driver/xf86-video-geode.git right?12:37
loolAha12:37
Q-FUNKArch: is space-separated list right?12:37
loolthe packaging isn't12:37
loolQ-FUNK: yes12:37
loolQ-FUNK: you shouldn't have Vcs-* fields if the packaging isn't at this place12:37
Q-FUNKit's only to indicate where the packaing is?  i thought it was to indicate the upstream repo12:38
loolNo, it's for the repo of the Debian / Ubuntu source12:38
Q-FUNKah12:38
Q-FUNKlemme remove this, then12:38
loolYou get a warning when you apt-get source a package with Vcs-*12:39
lool(because you should use the Vcs, not apt-get source)12:39
looland debcheckout will pull from the Vcs if you ask for a source tree, but you want the packaging when you do debcheckout12:39
loolQ-FUNK: where the experimental upload to sponsor then?12:39
Q-FUNKjust a sec12:40
Q-FUNKhttp://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/x/xserver-xorg-video-geode/xserver-xorg-video-geode_2.10.1-4.dsc12:43
Q-FUNKthis can be sync'ed from experimental into intrepid after12:44
Q-FUNKlool: there :)12:46
loolHmm needs experimental, will take a while to update my experimental chroot12:55
loolargh12:59
loolit's not amd6412:59
loolneed to build in i386 blah13:00
Q-FUNKindeed not13:00
Q-FUNKalthough in principle, building on amd64 should work13:00
Q-FUNKthere's some configure checks to see whether it's being built on amd6413:01
Q-FUNKI don't have any amd64 hardware to test a build with, so I never enabled the arch13:01
loolamd64 is not in the architecture list13:01
Q-FUNKyou're welcome to try addign it and see if it builds13:02
loolI don't think there are amd64 + geode configs yet anyway13:03
Q-FUNKthe only safe choice for geode has been i386, since we're talking about an i586 -compatible chipset, so that's the only one I had enabled13:03
Q-FUNKbut in priciple, configure allows using amd64 as a build host13:03
looli586 *and* i686 IIUC13:03
loolQ-FUNK: the SRU is half prepared; I'm not too confident in doing the other half myself13:09
loolthe acked diff is the one attached by bryce13:09
loolI think I'd prefer him to pursue the SRU13:09
Q-FUNKok13:10
Q-FUNKlet's focus on the experimental+intrepid one, for now13:10
Q-FUNKthat's already something :)13:10
loolpushed the experimental version13:10
loolwill ask for sync tomorrow, when it's dinstalled in debian13:11
loolI wonder whether we should kick a build to see whether psb detection is really fallbacking to vesa now13:14
persialool, The only *chrome device I know that might be interested is the oqo v2, but I think that's VIA C-7M, which I think is only i586.13:34
persialool, That said, I've not exactly tested everything out there :)13:35
loologra: ubuntu-mobile doesn't come up in kvm13:54
loologra: this looks really bad13:58
Celtiorehi all14:00
Celtiorepersia, do you have info about the rumour for the 'opening' of idctouch driver ?14:02
ogralool, hmm, i never test on kvm, the converted image in vbox used to work14:02
loologra: it's recent14:02
asaclool: #28308014:05
asaclool: you know if those are getting their packages from a different repo=14:05
asac?14:05
persiaCeltiore, I've not heard that rumor, so sorry, but no.14:05
asacor are you the wrong to ask?14:05
persiabug #28308014:05
ubottuLaunchpad bug 283080 in firefox-3.0 "Update Firefox for lpia to 3.0.1 (hardy)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/28308014:05
loolasac: You should talk to OEM14:07
persiaasac, I see firefox-3.0 as 3.0~b5+nobinonly-0ubuntu3 on hardy lpia, which matches other architectures.  I'm not sure if a different repo is used.14:07
loolasac: They use some fork of hardy14:08
asacwell. they _must_ track security imo14:09
asacthere we have 3.0.314:09
persiaasac, I don't track security in my chroot :)  Let me update, and confirm for lpia.14:11
ogralool, -mid works in kvm ?14:11
* ogra really didnt plan to do any image testing today, evtouch was on my plate :/14:12
persiaogra, I'll do image testing then.  Please fix evtouch.14:13
ograwell, nothing to fix but i need to finish the .fdi files :) i'll jum on the image as well then14:14
ograpersia, what are you doing here today ? 14:14
persiaIt's not day anymore :)14:14
loologra: xorg comes up, but stays on the orange background14:14
loolit doesn't look like a xorg breakage14:15
ogralool, smells like compiz14:15
loolhmm actually I don't have mouse14:15
ograhal ?14:15
ograhmm14:15
loolThe mouse is displayed, but doesn't work14:15
* ogra rsyncs14:15
ograyeah, sounds like hal14:15
looli'm trying mid now14:16
ogrado other kvm images work ? 14:16
ograright14:16
loolon another front, jax10, it doesn't fallbackon vesa14:16
loolIt detects an intel chip14:16
ograthat rather sounds like something low level14:16
loollspci says 8086:810914:16
loologra: Argh, ignore me14:16
loologra: today's images probably work fine *sigh*14:17
persialool, What did you do?14:17
loolI broke my kvm wrapper, and it didn't pass -m 51214:17
ograouch14:17
persiaheh14:17
asacpersia: thx14:17
loolsorry folks14:17
ograwhat does it default to ? 14:17
loolnot enough14:17
ogramobile should work with 25614:17
loolI think 12814:17
ograah14:17
loolit defaults to 12814:18
ograas long as nobody broke compcache at least14:18
loolmuch faster and better :)14:18
ograheh14:18
ographew14:18
loolNow I don't remember what I wanted to test14:18
ogratest ltsp on mobile, i just uploaded fixes :P14:18
loolhehe14:18
* ogra wonders if he should add lpia as client arch :P14:19
persiaasac, 3.0.3+build1+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.8.04.1 is in hardy-security for lpia14:19
persiaogra, Don't : there's too much that depends on hildon.  That's a Jaunty goal for -mobile.14:19
ograpersia, hildon on ltsp ? 14:20
ograthat might be funny :)14:20
persiaogra, I think it would break stuff.  We need to fix lpia before we enable stuff (one of the reasons that I haven't made -desktop work)14:20
asacpersia: ok good14:20
persiakubuntu could probably do lpia, but big chunks of GNOME are mangled.14:21
ograpersia, well, it would add --arch lpia to ltsp-build-client (which currently supports ppc,i386 and amd64)14:21
ograwhich in turn just calls debootstrap and installs ltsp-client-core and ldm14:21
ograyou could use nettops as thin clients 14:22
loolasac: http://dell-mini.archive.canonical.com/14:22
persiaogra, Except that I suspect stuff would break because of how things were hildonised.14:22
ograldm surely isnt hildonised 14:23
ograand ltsp-client is only a bunch of scripts ... it wouldnt break the client side14:23
ograthough the desktop you log in to might look intresting :)14:23
ograunless the server is i386 or amd6414:24
persiaHrm.  Might work then.  Check debian/rules for your dependencies to make sure nothing is mangled.14:24
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loolamitk: uhoh aufs issues15:24
loolamitk: I'm seeing this from a live USB on jax1015:24
looldpkg core dumps with odd assertions15:24
looland dmesg sees some aufs errors "unexpectedly many pseudo links"15:25
ogradoes apt-get update work ? 15:26
loolYes15:26
loolIt hangs in a dpkg --configure -a15:26
ograweird15:26
loolI might have filled up the fs though15:29
ograah15:29
persiaI think you filled up the fs.  Some of those devices weren't designed to handle actual data.15:34
ograor OSes :P15:34
loolNote: I filled it, /then/ I made some space15:35
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loologra: Hey, suggestions on how to go forward for psb detections welcome17:07
loolpersia: or you too17:07
looli installed xserver-xorg-core ubuntu217:07
loolmanually17:07
ogralool, after the podcast 17:07
* ogra is distracted17:08
loolI have to disappear unfortunately17:08
loolSo I'm dumping stuff here17:08
ograok17:08
loolI'm booting of the ubuntu-mobile usb key17:08
loolon startup, the failsafe vesa xorg propose to fix my display17:08
loolI ctrl alt baskspace it17:08
loolupdate xorg-core as noted above17:08
loolthen gdm restart doesn't come up, still the same failsafe; I guess this is only when you don't have a xorg.conf17:09
loolIf I sudo X -configure, it crashes17:09
loolbecause of nsc_drv.so17:09
lool(symbol issue)17:09
loolI remove that file17:09
loolThen -configure fails with "open /dev/fb0 no such file or directory"17:10
ograweird17:10
ograit shouldnt access fb017:10
loolThat just configure17:10
loolIf I check the actual xorg.conf, it has no driver17:11
ograyeah, not run usually anyway17:11
ograremove it17:11
loolI think it tries to load psb before trying vesa, but never tries vesa when psb isn't present17:11
ograand restart gdm17:11
ograjust go without one completely but with the fixed xserver package17:11
loolthere's no mention of psb in xorg.conf, but I see "Failed to load module psb"17:11
ograhrm17:12
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ogralool, does the last change fix it now ? 17:36
loolWaiting for the build17:36
loolI actually wanted to upload that last one to ppa first, but mistakingly uploaded to ubuntu17:36
ograwell, the changelog entry makes sense17:37
loolfor some reason, the .debs don't make it to librarian or smth17:38
loolOk, really need to disappear17:43
ograciao17:43
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ograwohooo18:57
* ogra just successfully paired his freedomkeyboard with a new BT dongle18:57
ogrageez, even the german keymap works right18:58
ograäöü18:58
ograß18:58
ograheh18:58
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ogramterry, i pointed colin to your bug, he found it very valuable and will incude the fix before release he said19:56
mterryogra: Great.  Yeah, I saw his comments on it19:58
mterryogra: Thanks19:58
ogra:)19:58
loologra: last ubuntu4 fix did the trick, yeah!20:17
ograyay20:18
loolNow I can point customer at it20:18
ogramy BT works as well, got a new dongle20:18
ograone thats suposed to work in 100m range 20:18
ograif i could only get my headset working with alsa now, then i could keep my ekiga up permanently20:19
ograany news from amitk about the kernel upload ? 20:20
loologra: nice21:36
loologra: didn't see any news from amitk on kernel bits; I read he was working on it today21:36
loolbut you read that too21:36
amitklool: just back from dinner with friend (and some wine). I fixed it, but stopped to rebase to -7.1121:39
amitkogra: ^21:39
loolamitk: good to know, thanks21:40
amitklool: tomorrow morning I should have something for upload.... I wanna test it a bit more.21:40
loolOk21:40
lool [ANNOUNCE] PyClutter 0.8.021:47
loolnjpatel_away: ^^ :)21:47
ograamitk, i'm not sure when slangasek actually freezes the archive ,,,21:49
loologra: it's tomorrow, when he wakes up, but he can also review the upload I guess22:20
ograyeah, i#m just scared about breaking uploads22:20
ograand re-uploads of them 22:21
ograthis abi stuff was quite disappointing22:21
julien_hello22:44
julien_need help for installing Ubuntu MID Edition ? 22:44
julien_I am trying to install it on ASUS R2h UMPC but when it is loading the first time for installing, I can see the Ubuntu loading bar and then I ve got a black screen22:46
julien_I have read on the web same guy with the same problem but no one replied to his request22:46
looljulien_: Does it work any better with i386 images, such as ubuntu-mobile.img?22:51
looljulien_: It would be nice to get a Xorg.log to see what's happening when X starts up22:51
loolsince it's intel graphics, it should be decently supported22:52
julien_i managed to run ubuntu normal edition on R2h22:52
julien_it is working perfectly22:52
looljulien_: aha22:52
looljulien_: And can you switch to text console when booting from mid?22:53
julien_where can i find  i386 img22:53
julien_bc i have just found one unique image22:53
looljulien_: topic22:53
loolTopic for #ubuntu-mobile: [...] http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-mobile/intrepid/current http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-mid/intrepid/current/22:53
looltry a newer daily22:53
julien_bc i tried the ubuntu-mobile daily img22:54
julien_by the way, i have a xorg.conf perfectly configurer for my R2h22:54
julien_the thing is how can I replace it during the installation22:55
julien_because I think it takes a wrong configuration for my screen but how can i change it ?22:55
loolSorry, I'm lost22:56
julien_ok i restart22:56
loolDo you speak French?22:56
julien_oui22:56
loolC'est une image récente de ubuntu mid que tu as essayée ?22:56
julien_oui celle d aujourd hui22:56
julien_je pense que c est le drive de l ecran qui est mal reconnu22:57
loolOk ; c'est pas évident de démarrer en mode texte avec ubuntu mid22:57
julien_car avec xubuntu j avais un ecran blanc quand j essaiais d installer22:57
julien_j ai reussi a installer ubuntu mais je n y arrive plus maintenant car j ai tout le temps un ecran blanc 22:57
loolNormalement, les paquets ubuntu mid et ubuntu mobile sont à peu près les mêmes, les deux grosses différences sont l'archi (lpia versus i386) et l'interface utilisateur22:57
julien_le truc est que j ai un xorg.conf que j ai trouvé sur le web qui marche avec mon R2H22:57
julien_vous n avez pas une version alternate ?22:58
looljulien_: Ce qu'il faudrait essayer de faire, c'est lancer X -configure depuis une console et comparer avec ton xorg.conf qui marche22:58
loolX -configure c'est ce qui génère notre xorg.conf au boot22:58
julien_ok22:58
julien_je crois que c est le driver qui doit changer22:59
loolPour booter en mode texte, tu peux essayer de passer "S" sur la ligne de commande syslinux22:59
loolça devrait être le même driver, mais peut être qu'on a un bug22:59
julien_par defaut il met intel alors qu il faut i81022:59
looli810 a été supprimé dans intrepid22:59
looljulien_: Tu arrives à booter le daily ubuntu ?22:59
julien_ah c pour ca que je n arrive plus a installer meme ubuntu22:59
looljulien_: Oui23:00
julien_ben je boote sur cle usb23:00
julien_le logo ubuntu qui charge23:00
julien_apparait puis apres plus rien23:00
loologra: Someone with the same issue as cmpc: needs i810; when X selects intel, it doesn't work23:00
ograyeah23:00
looljulien_: Le logo ubuntu n'est pas sous Xorg23:00
ograbut i810 is gone now23:00
ogra:(23:00
loologra: We should bring this up with xorg folks23:01
ograwell, someone would eed to port i810 to xorg 1.523:01
ograi doubt that has happened23:01
loologra: But intel is supposed to support i81023:01
ograthough i see its a GMA 900, the intel driver should support that23:02
julien_why is it gone?23:02
looljulien_: Because support was moved into a single tree for all intel chips23:02
ograthe intel driver is supposed to replace it completely23:02
julien_do you want i send you my good xorg.conf?23:02
ograwhich apparently isnt the case23:02
julien_i have read on the web to change intel into i810 to make it working23:03
ograin intrepid i810 is just a fake name for the intel driver now 23:03
julien_so you think intel should work23:04
julien_ok so maybe i have better to type S to get the shell and do a X configure ?23:04
looljulien_: It's likely intel doesn't work since you get a black screen23:04
julien_nope23:05
ograif you moe xorg.conf out of the way completely, do you get the black screen ? 23:05
looljulien_: Would be nice to start in text mode and arrange to save a generated xorg.conf and Xorg.log in some place which you can access23:05
julien_ok23:06
loologra: debian/patches/141_improved_driver_selection.patch mentions some i81023:06
loolthis isn't in the debian package23:06
lool+>------    } else {23:07
lool+>------>-------driverList[0] = "intel";23:07
lool+>------>-------driverList[1] = "i810";23:07
julien_From http://ubuntu-r2h.blogspot.com/:  I tried also a daily build of Gutsy on 11-September-2007 (not a lucky date, is it?), but due to the fact Xorg used the "intel" driver instead of the "i810" one, the LCD became brighter and brighter until it was totally white and I had to switch off the UMPC23:07
loolbut it should still try intel first23:07
julien_OK i am remaking a bootable usb key with MID23:07
julien_and try that23:07
looljulien_: You can use mobile23:07
looljulien_: It's easier to go to text mode with mobile23:08
looljulien_: Just pass "text" on the cmdline23:08
looljulien_: Or use a regular ubuntu live cd if you can23:08
looljulien_: This isn't specific to mobile at all I think23:08
julien_i have ubuntu-mobile.img ? it is good?23:08
loolYeah that's fine23:08
julien_yeah it is true it is linked with ubuntu in general23:09
julien_ok i am trying23:09
julien_please hold23:09
looljulien_: So the best way to track your issue is to file a bug23:10
looljulien_: Go to https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/+filebug23:10
loolreport it against xserver-xorg-video-intel23:10
lool(in package:)23:10
loolIn Summary state that Asus R2H Intel GMA 900 doesn't come up with intrepid; used to work with i81023:11
looljulien_: Then explain in further info what you explained here23:11
loolattach the output of lspci -nnvv as a text file to the bug23:11
looljulien_: and give us the bug URL23:11
ograand if possible attach Xorg.0.log23:11
looljulien_: It would really nice to attach the xorg.conf generated by X -configure and Xorg.log23:12
loologra: Do you have a recipe for that?  it's not trivial when your device actually turns black, and you're from a live key with no persistence23:12
loolI'd guess one can setup a casper persistence, but it's not trivial23:12
james_wit's currently broken as well23:13
ogradont we have that by default ? 23:13
loologra: it's turned on, but you need some partition for it23:13
ogra(persistance)23:13
ograah, right23:13
james_wyou need to pass "persistence" when booting as well23:13
ograthats set by default23:13
james_wbut as I say, it's broken, fixed in casper bzr23:14
ograbut wont work without a partition 23:14
james_wogra: you mean on the mobile images?23:14
ograyes23:14
ograwe set that option in syslinux.cfg23:14
james_wah, ok23:14
julien__sorry guys i think i was disconnected23:14
ograi didnt know casper is broken though23:14
julien__i dont know what is wrong but wifi is dying sometimes23:15
julien__where do i have to type text ?23:15
julien__bc in boot line, it doesn't work?23:15
looljulien__: what was the last line you got from us?23:17
julien__[00:08] <julien_> i have ubuntu-mobile.img ? it is good?23:17
julien__[00:08] <lool> Yeah that's fine23:17
julien__sorry guys, but the rt73 driver doesnt seem to be stable23:18
looljulien__: http://paste.ubuntu.com/58079/23:19
julien__i have this on my syslinux.cfg :   append file=/cdrom/preseed/mobile.seed boot=casper initrd=initrd.img persistent quiet splash noprompt23:22
julien__so persistence is activated right?23:22
ograjulien_, but as james_w noted, it might be broken, waiting for a fix 23:26
julien__so if it is working, i need just to type 'text' at boot prompt23:27
julien__and i can run x configure23:27
julien__?23:27
ograthat migh work23:27
ogratry it23:27
julien__bc right now, it is saying it can't find 'text' image23:28
james_wyeah, "persistent" will currently fail to boot if you have the casper-rw file23:30
looljulien__: You need to pass the full cmdline23:30
looljulien__: text is just a flag on the cmdline23:31
looljulien__: It's easier from ubuntu cdroms because you can edit it ;)23:31
looljulien__: Check syslinux.cfg on the usb key23:31
julien_still disconnected23:38
julien_still disconnected ...23:38
julien_sorry23:38
ograno, you are connected :)23:40
julien_lol23:40
julien_sorry what do i have to type in syslinux.cfg23:40
julien_bc i am not an expert in syslinux.cfg at all23:40
julien_(i was disconnected from [00:32] to [00:38]23:42

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