| Laney | crimsun: Yes - re: that sound bug | 00:27 |
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| Laney | Unless there's been an update in the last day | 00:27 |
| Niike|home | newbie question, what language are mostly used when programming in Ubuntu? | 00:51 |
| directhex | purely for ubuntu? python is the language of choice | 00:51 |
| Niike|home | well.. I guess you can use all different languages, but C# is the wrong aproach since its kind of Microsoft's development language right? | 00:52 |
| directhex | i wouldn't say that | 00:53 |
| RAOF | Heh. Wrong person, there :) | 00:53 |
| directhex | given windows is mostly written in C or C++ | 00:53 |
| * ajmitch wouldn't say that to someone who looks after mono packages :) | 00:53 | |
| directhex | C# is an international standard | 00:53 |
| directhex | ajmitch, i'm even in Uploaders now | 00:53 |
| Niike|home | ah ok ... | 00:54 |
| ajmitch | directhex: well done | 00:54 |
| RAOF | The mono stack is a nice development environment, even if the gtk# bindings aren't thread-safe (damn them all the way to Hades!) | 00:54 |
| directhex | RAOF, neither is GTK+ generally! | 00:54 |
| * ajmitch appears to not be in pkg-mono or pkg-cli-* | 00:54 | |
| RAOF | directhex: That's no excuse! The Java bindings are thread-safe! | 00:54 |
| directhex | RAOF, by wrapping all the calls into the mainloop? | 00:55 |
| RAOF | I believe by setting gtk_threads_enter/leave to use a Java-managed recursive lock, and just aquiring that lock for all calls. | 00:55 |
| directhex | ajmitch, are you actively working on any pkg-mono or pkg-cli-* package? i know the svn ACLs get cleaned up periodically | 00:55 |
| ajmitch | directhex: no, not at the moment | 00:55 |
| ajmitch | though I ought to get back into it | 00:56 |
| ajmitch | I'm sure meebey would be overjoyed to see me back... | 00:56 |
| directhex | warning: irc lacks the <sarcasm> tags used by more advanced protocols | 00:56 |
| directhex | assuming that's sarcasm. I CAN'T TELL! | 00:56 |
| Niike|home | directhex: but since I have recently started with a C# programming class, I would like to get my programming skills working for both operating systems, developement for Ubuntu (or linux) would still be used mainly with python? | 00:57 |
| directhex | Niike|home, well, there are major desktop apps for linux written with c# | 00:57 |
| RAOF | Niike|home: You can use whatever language you like; there are plenty of C# apps to contribute to. | 00:57 |
| directhex | Niike|home, ubuntu ships 2 of them in the default install | 00:57 |
| Niike|home | ok! instead of .exe apps it uses? :S | 00:58 |
| directhex | Niike|home, the same | 00:58 |
| ajmitch | the .exe suffux is still there, just hidden by wrappers :) | 00:58 |
| directhex | Niike|home, mono is a CLI framework, just like Microsoft.NET. it uses the same file types and extensions | 00:58 |
| directhex | Niike|home, i.e. a well-written CIL app compiled on linux will run on windows or mac, and vice versa | 00:59 |
| Niike|home | aah ok! made it somewhat easier to understand the difference! :) | 00:59 |
| Niike|home | so a CLI written app would hence be more powerfull than one written purely for .NET? Or can linux, mac etc use .NET apps just as good as Windows? | 01:00 |
| directhex | a picture says a thousand words, right? | 01:00 |
| Niike|home | hrmm.. yea!? | 01:01 |
| * ajmitch thinks directhex is probably digging up a diagram to explain it | 01:02 | |
| RAOF | Niike|home: .NET is an implementation of the CLI, but it also has a bunch of Windows-specific frameworks available. If you don't use the windows-specific stuff, a .NET app is essentially indistinguishable from a Mono app. | 01:02 |
| directhex | http://www2.apebox.org/wordpress/wp-content/gallery/00-single/osctool3-gtk-01.png is the app i've been working on for a few years for my employers. it's 100% C#, written on amd64 ubuntu, using GTK# for the GUI, and Mono.Addins for the plugin architecture, plus MonoCurses for the text mode | 01:02 |
| ajmitch | as a side note, many of those windows-specific bits can be used with mono as well, like System.Windows.Forms | 01:02 |
| directhex | http://www2.apebox.org/wordpress/wp-content/gallery/00-single/osctool3-win32-01.png is the exact same app (i.e. the same .exe and .dll files copied and pasted) running on 32-bit vista, using Microsoft.NET. it uses the same technologies - GTK#, Mono.Addins | 01:02 |
| ajmitch | but others call into the win32 API still | 01:02 |
| directhex | http://www2.apebox.org/wordpress/wp-content/gallery/00-single/osctool3-macos-01.png is the exact same app on Mono 1.9.1 on Mac OS 10.5. same tech, same app | 01:03 |
| ajmitch | directhex: oxford-specific stuff, is it? | 01:03 |
| directhex | ajmitch, well, only because i didn't make most of the strings modifiable. if you run the same openldap schema as me, it should work fine | 01:04 |
| ajmitch | looks like something that could possibly be useful | 01:04 |
| Niike|home | aah nice explanation there directhex! :) | 01:04 |
| directhex | for completeness, http://www2.apebox.org/wordpress/wp-content/gallery/00-single/osctool3-ncurses-04.png is what you get if you don't have the ability to run X apps (i.e. DISPLAY is null or empty), thanks to MonoCurses | 01:05 |
| Niike|home | RAOF: aa thank you for your explanation too! :) | 01:05 |
| directhex | i think i'm the second user of MonoCurses for a real-world app, and i had to modify the source to add new widgets to it :) | 01:05 |
| ajmitch | doing rm -rf ~/Mail/ubuntu-bugs/ is taking a very, very long time | 01:06 |
| * ajmitch thinks there were about 500k messages in there :) | 01:07 | |
| Niike|home | ok now I think ive learnt something very usefull today! :) | 01:09 |
| Niike|home | im planning to setup HTPC computer and use any kind of unix. I choose Ubuntu-desktop and when im on it, want a NAS to be installed on it. to hold all my 100th HD movies. Would ubuntu be a wise choice? | 01:12 |
| directhex | it would not be an unwise choice | 01:12 |
| directhex | The Debian External Health System (a.k.a. DEHS) has found a new upstream version | 01:14 |
| directhex | of the package mono in the unstable distribution. | 01:14 |
| directhex | The current package version is 1.9.1+dfsg-4 and latest by upstream is 2.0. | 01:14 |
| directhex | thanks, DEHS. no shit! | 01:14 |
| Niike|home | yea just confirming that. And until I get a hang of the whole unix architecture in compare with windows i'm thinking about VMware to use a virtual ubuntu installation.. that would work fine yes? | 01:14 |
| directhex | on the understanding that performance would suck, and you couldn't do media things, yes | 01:15 |
| Niike|home | damn, ok! so a dual boot is my only choice when using media? or buy that HTPC and try it from there? | 01:17 |
| * ajmitch wonders if ironpython could be updated in sid | 01:17 | |
| directhex | your call. but media playback, fr'example, is unaccelerated inside vmware | 01:17 |
| Niike|home | aa well.. ill look into it tomorrow. thanks for the help! | 01:18 |
| directhex | ajmitch, oh, we missed that. ipy is not part of pkg-cli-apps, but it should be. i think it's on the TODO on the wiki | 01:18 |
| ajmitch | directhex: yeah I know | 01:19 |
| * ajmitch is in Uploaders for that still | 01:19 | |
| directhex | http://wiki.debian.org/Teams/DebianMonoGroup/TODO | 01:20 |
| ajmitch | I know, I was looking at that :) | 01:20 |
| ajmitch | and wondering why things like pnet would still be on there | 01:20 |
| directhex | seems you're ahead of me | 01:20 |
| directhex | which is good, since it's gone 1am and i'm sleepy | 01:20 |
| directhex | ajmitch, i have no idea who cares about pnet. it's not me! | 01:22 |
| ajmitch | last upstream release was 18 months ago, it barely supports any C# 2.0 features, let alone a complete set of libraries for 1.0 | 01:22 |
| directhex | ah, pnet's gone in debian. you'd have to ask meebey if he wants it resurrected | 01:26 |
| directhex | #debian-mono on oftc. anyway, BEDTIME | 01:26 |
| StevenK | pnet has also been killed here, too | 01:28 |
| * ajmitch doesn't see much point in maintaining it again unless it were to magically become useful | 01:29 | |
| * slangasek blinks at bug #1687 | 02:56 | |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1687 in nedit "NEdit doesn't work support UTF" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1687 | 02:56 |
| slangasek | "A powerful, customizable Motif based text editor" -- that doesn't work with modern charsets and has to be shipped in multiverse? | 02:57 |
| ajmitch | slangasek: yes, crimsun has been trawling through a number of old bugs, it seems | 02:57 |
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| fabrice_sp | Hi. How do we deal with removal request? It needs a FFe? (for Bug #283348 and other broken kde3 packages) | 06:17 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 283348 in kerry "[Package Removal Request] kerry - remove from Intrepid" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/283348 | 06:17 |
| ScottK | It needs approval by a MOTU, but not an FFe. | 06:18 |
| ScottK | fabrice_sp: For KDE3 stuff, ask in #kubuntu-devel | 06:19 |
| StevenK | ScottK: While you're around, should wlassistant die too? | 06:27 |
| ScottK | StevenK: Dunno. | 06:28 |
| StevenK | ScottK: It's Depends on kicker | 06:28 |
| StevenK | s/'s// | 06:28 |
| ajmitch | kicker is fairly obsolete now, right? | 06:28 |
| ScottK | I'd guess, but it's past 1:30 AM here and I'm doing $WORK financial reports so my brain is totally mush at the moment. | 06:29 |
| ajmitch | poor chap | 06:29 |
| ScottK | It has a KDE 4 version now. | 06:29 |
| StevenK | Hm | 06:32 |
| * StevenK digs for the wireless device | 06:32 | |
| ScottK | StevenK: Feel free to beat up on nixternal for KDE answers. He's an hour behind me, so he should be fresh and ready to help. | 06:34 |
| dholbach | good morning | 06:34 |
| didrocks | morning | 06:46 |
| nullie | Hi. I try to do sync request using requestsync tool, but it gets: The requested URL /changelogs/pool/main/p/python-rope/current/changelog.txt was not found on this server. error | 07:12 |
| AnAnt | Hello, I found that usplash-theme-ubuntume needs to be rebuilt so that it would work on Intreipd | 08:33 |
| AnAnt | what should I do ? | 08:33 |
| RAOF | AnAnt: Make a new no-change-rebuild upload? | 08:35 |
| AnAnt | RAOF: upload to revu ? | 08:35 |
| AnAnt | RAOF: or file a bug & a debdiff ? | 08:35 |
| RAOF | A bug, certainly. A debdiff? Maybe. | 08:35 |
| RAOF | A rebuild definitely fixes it? | 08:36 |
| AnAnt | how do I do this rebuild upload then ? | 08:37 |
| RAOF | Well, you ask a MOTU :) | 08:37 |
| RAOF | So, in what way is it broken, and how do I test that the rebuild fixes it? | 08:38 |
| AnAnt | RAOF: well, I found that usplash-theme-ubuntu in their last changelog, said that they changed nothing, just rebuilt against new usplash | 08:39 |
| AnAnt | RAOF: and that usplash-theme-ubuntume does not work, if I type: sudo usplash, I get an error message that there is no usable usplash (that's when the usplash-artwork.so alternative points to the ubuntume usplash theme) | 08:39 |
| RAOF | AnAnt: And just a rebulid makes that work? | 08:40 |
| AnAnt | RAOF: yeah, I just rebuilt on my machine now, and it worked | 08:40 |
| AnAnt | RAOF: it's because the THEME_VERSION got bumped in the new usplash | 08:41 |
| RAOF | OK. So, file a bug with that information, and someone whose internet isn't capped at 64kbit/sec will test & upload a no-change rebuild. | 08:41 |
| AnAnt | new gnash is cool | 08:42 |
| RAOF | So cool it actually works? | 08:42 |
| AnAnt | youtube works on it ! | 08:43 |
| AnAnt | erm | 08:45 |
| AnAnt | wait, that wasn't gnash | 08:45 |
| RAOF | Swfdec? | 08:45 |
| AnAnt | no, I it was flashplugin-nonfree, I forgot to update the alternatives ! | 08:47 |
| AnAnt | now testing gnash | 08:47 |
| jml | AnAnt: I'm using gnash to watch youtube | 08:47 |
| dholbach | gnash doesn't do the "maximise the window" thing for me | 08:47 |
| jml | AnAnt: it works at least as well as proprietary flash did. | 08:47 |
| dholbach | other than that it's looking great | 08:47 |
| hagabaka | what about seeking? | 08:48 |
| dholbach | works | 08:48 |
| dholbach | on amd64 | 08:48 |
| AnAnt | can you open an flv with standalone gnash ? | 08:48 |
| AnAnt | ? | 08:53 |
| AnAnt | well, it doesn't work AT ALL here with youtube ! | 08:53 |
| nullie | Look. Which key is used to sing binary archives in my ppa? | 08:56 |
| nullie | sign | 08:56 |
| AnAnt | nullie: A minor | 08:58 |
| nullie | minor? | 08:58 |
| AnAnt | nullie: key & sing | 08:58 |
| nullie | :) | 08:58 |
| morgs | james_w: morning! Yes, I disabled the abiword import, and made all the code that uses it a dead codepath so it's a minimal patch. If you prefer I can make the dead code commented out, but I have tested it. | 09:52 |
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| james_w | morgs: no, that's fine, thanks, just making sure. | 10:33 |
| morgs | cool | 10:33 |
| jsgotangco | morgs: congrats on 8.2.0! | 10:34 |
| morgs | jsgotangco: thanks, I'm happy to take credit even though I only did a little bit of it :) | 10:35 |
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| james_w | morgs: uploaded, thank you | 11:39 |
| morgs | james_w: thanks! | 11:40 |
| james_w | nellery: hey, are you around? | 12:19 |
| sistpoty|work | hi folks | 12:38 |
| james_w | hey sistpoty|work | 12:39 |
| sistpoty|work | hi james_w | 12:39 |
| sebner | huhu sistpoty|work :) | 12:44 |
| sistpoty|work | hi sebner | 12:44 |
| slavik | someone messed up the xserver-common package dependency. | 12:44 |
| sebner | sistpoty|work: nothing with 3 months of vacation. I'll start working again for one month :\ | 12:45 |
| sistpoty|work | oh | 12:45 |
| slavik | xephyr-xnest doesn't want to upgrade because xserver-common is uninstallable, xserver-xorg-core conflicts and replaces xserver-common | 12:45 |
| sebner | sistpoty|work: and later to the military. *sarcasm* WUHU */sarcasm* ^^ | 12:48 |
| sistpoty|work | heh | 12:48 |
| sistpoty|work | james_w: there's a "later" target? cool | 12:49 |
| james_w | yeah | 12:49 |
| james_w | not sure how long it's been around | 12:49 |
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| emgent | hello | 13:44 |
| sistpoty|work | bug #242572 would need a sponsor | 13:52 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 242572 in wxsvg "[Sync request] Upgrade wxsvg package to b11" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/242572 | 13:52 |
| morgs | james_w: I'm considering filing a removal request for sugar-write-activity, since it is uninstallable (and it was in hardy, too) - see bug 219358 | 14:03 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 219358 in sugar-write-activity "Package has unresolved dependancies" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/219358 | 14:03 |
| james_w | morgs: python-abiword is a separate source that we don't have, it's not in the abiword package or anything? | 14:06 |
| james_w | (yeah, should have asked this for the last one) | 14:06 |
| morgs | james_w: abiword is not packaged modularly in Ubuntu - it is in a PPA (https://launchpad.net/~sugarteam/+archive) but not in intrepid itself. | 14:07 |
| morgs | So we would need abiword to be built with libabiword and pyabiword | 14:08 |
| james_w | morgs: yeah, if we don't have python-abiword and the python interface isn't in any other packages then kick it | 14:09 |
| james_w | morgs: removal requested, thanks | 14:34 |
| stefanlsd | siretart: are you around? | 14:36 |
| bddebian | Heya gang | 14:38 |
| sistpoty|work | hi bddebian | 14:39 |
| bddebian | Hi sistpoty|work | 14:40 |
| siretart | stefanlsd: yes | 14:57 |
| siretart | hey bddebian, hi sistpoty|work! | 14:57 |
| sistpoty|work | hi siretart | 14:57 |
| bddebian | Heya siretart | 14:58 |
| stefanlsd | siretart: hi. I wonder if you can help me. Im trying to do some work in the hardy branch of mplayer - but it says its not pushed yet - https://code.edge.launchpad.net/mplayer | 14:59 |
| siretart | stefanlsd: hm. I'd assume that the guys in #launchpad can help you better than me here | 15:08 |
| siretart | https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-dev/mplayer/ubuntu-hardy looks broken | 15:08 |
| stefanlsd | siretart: ok. thanks. i will try them. I just cant test the pushing. | 15:09 |
| stefanlsd | siretart: would it be possible to delete it and recreate it? | 15:14 |
| siretart | stefanlsd: launchpad offers renaming branches | 15:23 |
| siretart | I haven't found the 'delete' button yet | 15:23 |
| stefanlsd | siretart: aah. its def there. if you click on the branch, next to the name is a little 'no entry sign' | 15:24 |
| stefanlsd | siretart: i can see it on my own branches (maybe you must be registered owner though) | 15:25 |
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| stefanlsd | maybe superm1 can help with that though... ^ | 15:27 |
| superm1 | stefanlsd, with what? | 15:27 |
| stefanlsd | superm1: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-dev/mplayer/ubuntu-hardy | 15:28 |
| superm1 | hum that looks pretty broke. | 15:28 |
| stefanlsd | superm1: i want to do a security fix into hardy branch - and wanted to use lp bzr of it. Dont suppose you can delete branch repush hardy into it | 15:28 |
| superm1 | stefanlsd, i'm not sure i still have the branch locally | 15:29 |
| superm1 | i'd be glad to delete it though :) | 15:29 |
| stefanlsd | superm1: hehe. maybe we just need to extract source from mplayer hardy and push it? | 15:29 |
| superm1 | that would be rather unfortunate if that is what we had to do | 15:30 |
| superm1 | lose the history and such | 15:30 |
| stefanlsd | superm1: mm. there is no history at the moment though? maybe take the gutsy code and step it back to hardy equiv? | 15:31 |
| superm1 | stefanlsd, you know wgrant may have the branch to repush | 15:33 |
| superm1 | i'm not sure what wuld have happened to the hardy branch though | 15:33 |
| superm1 | stefanlsd, if wgrant doesn't however, then that's probably a solution | 15:33 |
| stefanlsd | superm1: cool. can you delete it for now, i'll ask wgrant if he has the source to push it again. | 15:33 |
| superm1 | sure | 15:33 |
| stefanlsd | superm1: thanks for the help! | 15:37 |
| superm1 | no problem stefanlsd . sorry, wish I could be more helpful. :) | 15:37 |
| \sh | does someone work on flashplayer-nonfree 10 final? | 16:08 |
| directhex | #ubuntu-mozillateam | 16:09 |
| apachelogger | dholbach: do you know of some way to close all the tasks of bug 283543 at once? | 16:20 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 283543 in knetload "archive removal request: wlassistant is uninstallable due to kicker being dropped" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/283543 | 16:20 |
| dholbach | apachelogger: Riddell just asked the same on #ubuntu-devel | 16:20 |
| dholbach | and I said "hang on" :) | 16:20 |
| apachelogger | ^_^ | 16:20 |
| rainct | wow, my screen doesn't flickr anymore with gksudo :P | 16:28 |
| ogra | rainct, we can fix that if you want :P | 16:34 |
| rainct | ogra: no, but you could fix GNOME so that I can start it :) | 16:35 |
| rainct | (*flicker) | 16:36 |
| rainct | Guys... REVU has a "Import from PPA" feature now (based upon a branch NCommander did some time ago. and don't search for it, it's not visible in the UI yet, but it's on revu.ubuntuwire.com/import.py). | 17:11 |
| crevette | hello there | 17:11 |
| rainct | The text there currently says that non-reviewers can only import packages that have been succesfully build on i386, but this isn't implemented yet. Do you think we want that? :P | 17:12 |
| rainct | hi crevette | 17:12 |
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| crevette | hello rainct | 17:23 |
| * sistpoty|work decides to call it a day and go into the cine | 17:34 | |
| sistpoty|work | +ma | 17:35 |
| sistpoty|work | cya | 17:35 |
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| fabrice_sp_ | Hi. I get the second ack for FFe on Bug #242572. So I only need a motu now! james_w? :-) | 19:40 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 242572 in wxsvg "[Sync request] Upgrade wxsvg package to b11" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/242572 | 19:40 |
| james_w | I'm just looking | 19:40 |
| james_w | you haven't merged the changelog correctly | 19:40 |
| james_w | I can do that if there are no other problems | 19:40 |
| fabrice_sp_ | james_w: are you using the last debdiff? (wxsvg.debdiff) | 19:42 |
| fabrice_sp_ | It seems ok in the debdiff | 19:43 |
| james_w | fabrice_sp_: yeah, but it doesn't merge the | 19:44 |
| james_w | them | 19:44 |
| james_w | you drop all the Ubuntu entries | 19:44 |
| fabrice_sp_ | james_w: ahhh, I know what happened: I began again from debian package.... | 19:45 |
| savvas0 | um.. is there debian policy for adding/removing sections in .conf files? I want to add a section in access.conf and time.conf files that my program will handle | 19:46 |
| james_w | access.conf and time.conf? What owns those? | 19:47 |
| savvas0 | linuxpam-modules | 19:47 |
| savvas0 | /etc/security/access.conf and /etc/security/time.conf | 19:47 |
| savvas0 | sorry, libpam-modules :) | 19:48 |
| james_w | they are conffiles of that package | 19:49 |
| james_w | that means you are not allowed to modify them automatically from the package | 19:49 |
| james_w | depending on what you want to do there may be a way to do it though | 19:49 |
| james_w | fabrice_sp_: building while I go eat | 19:49 |
| fabrice_sp_ | ok | 19:49 |
| fabrice_sp_ | CU later | 19:49 |
| savvas0 | well, as it is, I'm using sed and grep to add to those conf files | 19:50 |
| james_w | in your .postinst? | 19:50 |
| savvas0 | yes, .postinst and .postrm :) | 19:50 |
| morgs | james_w: debdiff attached for bug 282883 | 19:51 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 282883 in sugar-web-activity "Browse activity does not start" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/282883 | 19:51 |
| james_w | morgs: I'll look a little later, thanks | 19:51 |
| morgs | james_w: OK, np, thanks | 19:51 |
| savvas0 | the scripts post/pre inst/rm work pretty well actually, but I was wondering if there's an alternative or.. "cleaner" solution to this :) | 19:52 |
| savvas0 | the lintian is a great tool by the way, helped me solve most of my packaging glitches hehe | 19:57 |
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| MTeck | Is there any way to get the aluminum ubuntu stickers anymore? | 20:51 |
| MTeck | I remember buying them in the past and I lost them... | 20:51 |
| lfaraone | james_w: ping | 20:52 |
| slytherin | MTeck: see if you can find any here - https://shop.canonical.com/ | 20:52 |
| james_w | hey lfaraone | 20:53 |
| MTeck | slytherin: nope :( | 20:54 |
| lfaraone | james_w: morgs fixed https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sugar-web-activity/+bug/282883 , debdiff attached. | 20:56 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 282883 in sugar-web-activity "Browse activity does not start" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 20:56 |
| james_w | lfaraone: yes, I'm subscribed and he already pointed it out, thanks | 20:56 |
| james_w | I don't need three notifications for every fix | 20:57 |
| slytherin | geser: Can you please take care of bug 267816 and eventually bug 268538 | 20:57 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 267816 in cglib2.1 "Please move to universe" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/267816 | 20:57 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 268538 in libxstream-java "Please move package to universe" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/268538 | 20:57 |
| lfaraone | james_w: heh, sorry. | 20:57 |
| MTeck | slytherin: any other ideas where to get one. I know I bought the last set and buying more doesn't bother me | 20:58 |
| slytherin | MTeck: No idea. Sorry. | 20:58 |
| lfaraone | james_w: woult it be possible to get python-abiword in intrepid by running it through the new package process, or as a patch to the existign abiword package? ( per bug 219358) | 20:58 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 219358 in sugar-write-activity "Please remove sugar-write-activity from Intrepid" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/219358 | 20:58 |
| james_w | lfaraone: it is possible yes, I don't know what's involved | 20:59 |
| james_w | it's also very very late for that sort of thing | 20:59 |
| lfaraone | james_w: sorry about this... | 21:00 |
| james_w | lfaraone: is there any sort of changelog or news file for this hulahop update? | 21:00 |
| lfaraone | james_w: we already have it working in a PPA. (abiword) | 21:00 |
| * lfaraone looks | 21:00 | |
| lfaraone | habtool: http://dev.laptop.org/git?p=projects/hulahop;a=blob;f=NEWS;h=0c66f17035d5fb47241032e93e59b413aa6d3937;hb=34d5cf579710dc9187e713d0696fd168005c512d | 21:02 |
| lfaraone | * james_w | 21:02 |
| fabrice_sp | james_w: thanks for wxsvg sync request! | 21:04 |
| lfaraone | james_w: (I'm not sure if that's what you're looking for) | 21:05 |
| james_w | lfaraone: I want to know what's in this new upstream release that I've been asked to upload | 21:06 |
| fabrice_sp | How is it possible that a package fails but if I remove stripping in debian/rules, to have bdebug info, it works?! | 21:11 |
| fabrice_sp | (for Bug #283762) | 21:11 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 283762 in openmovieeditor "Does not recognize unstripped video packages" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/283762 | 21:11 |
| fabrice_sp | I'm getting a coredump with the stripped version of openmovieeditor | 21:12 |
| lfaraone | james_w: well, it's in the NEWS file that I linked to you. | 21:15 |
| james_w | lfaraone: no, that's way out of date | 21:15 |
| james_w | lfaraone: I dug through git though | 21:15 |
| lfaraone | james_w: ah. (uh, that link is from 9/11/08, and is the latest release... 0.4.6) | 21:17 |
| lfaraone | james_w: (nvm) | 21:17 |
| james_w | lfaraone: http://dev.laptop.org/git?p=projects/hulahop;a=history;f=NEWS;h=0c66f17035d5fb47241032e93e59b413aa6d3937;hb=HEAD | 21:18 |
| james_w | the file hasn't been edited for a year | 21:18 |
| lfaraone | james_w: good point. :) | 21:19 |
| james_w | lfaraone: where do I download tarballs from? I need the 0.4.6 tarball | 21:19 |
| * lfaraone greps... | 21:19 | |
| lfaraone | james_w: http://dev.laptop.org/pub/sugar/sources/hulahop/hulahop-0.4.6.tar.bz2 | 21:23 |
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| james_w | thanks | 21:23 |
| geser | slytherin: can try to take care of those bug (I'm rather busy currently) | 21:27 |
| geser | slytherin: the bug for cglib2.1 looks it needs to be only thrown at an archive admin. Or do I miss something? | 21:28 |
| slytherin | geser: no, you are right | 21:29 |
| slytherin | geser: I just thought I should go through the usual confirmation by motu process. | 21:29 |
| geser | slytherin: you are pointing out an archive glitch which doesn't need IMHO an ACK from a motu (the source got already moved to universe but not the binaries yet) | 21:33 |
| slytherin | geser: Ok. So I will simply mark it confirmed and bug someone on #ubuntu-devel | 21:33 |
| geser | slytherin: I will add a new comment for libxstream-java once cglib2.1 gets resolved | 21:34 |
| slytherin | Ok. | 21:34 |
| geser | slytherin: yes | 21:34 |
| geser | slytherin: perhaps you have luck and my first ACK for libxstream-java gets still accepted | 21:35 |
| slytherin | hmm | 21:35 |
| savvas0 | I have sort of a weird problem with a .desktop file, "dpkg -L timekpr" shows the file /usr/share/applications/timekpr.desktop is included, but it's not actually installed there: "ls: cannot access /usr/share/applications/timekpr.desktop: No such file or directory" | 21:46 |
| savvas0 | I'm using "%:(new line)dh $@" in the rules | 21:47 |
| savvas0 | ah wait lol, my bad, I had it remove some files and i included it by accident :) | 21:49 |
| DktrKranz | stefanlsd, re bug 275122, I think you should apply your changes directly to your security fixes since -security uploads don't include {-updates,-proposed} fixes | 22:08 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 275122 in wordnet "[SRU] wordnet 1:3.0-2 in Gutsy was not built with debian/patches applied as intended." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/275122 | 22:08 |
| jdstrand | DktrKranz, stefanlsd: actually, -security updates pull from -updates | 22:09 |
| DktrKranz | jdstrand, -security updates are built on top of -updates? | 22:09 |
| jdstrand | so if there is a package in -security, and a newer one in -updates, the next -security update will use the -updates one | 22:10 |
| DktrKranz | ah, I wasn't aware of that, thanks for the update | 22:10 |
| jdstrand | DktrKranz: it is an imperfect system, but it solves more problems than it causes, and the justification is that if it went into -updates, it is proven | 22:10 |
| jdstrand | I should also mention that if there is a -proposed package when a -security update comes out, it's corresponding bug should get a comment saying it needs to be respun with the added -security update fixes | 22:12 |
| DktrKranz | it should be re-merged, clear | 22:13 |
| DktrKranz | jdstrand, would you accept such change included in a -security upload, or do you prefer to process it as a SRU? | 22:15 |
| jdstrand | DktrKranz: without knowing the specifics, -security is not a way around SRU (ie we don't put non-security fixes into a -security update) | 22:16 |
| jdstrand | DktrKranz: so if there is SRU material and -security material, either it all goes into -proposed for SRU, or there are two packages created | 22:17 |
| jdstrand | one for -security (with security fixes only), and one to -proposed for SRU (that has it all) | 22:17 |
| jdstrand | which will eventually supercede -security assuming all goes well | 22:18 |
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| ma10 | omg, upstream just decided to convert ALL their sources to CRLF line terminators. This is a VCS nightmare, considering we have heavy source modifications.. What do I do? Keep the CRLFs or produce a .orig tarball that is not "orig" at all, with everything converted back to unix? | 23:45 |
| crimsun | I'd keep them. What a pain. | 23:48 |
| ma10 | crimsun: yep, bazaar is giving me tons of nonsense conflicts.. | 23:49 |
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