| saivann | asac : ping | 02:17 |
|---|---|---|
| asac | saivann: hi. i am about to drop out :) | 02:19 |
| asac | saivann: will you be here later today? | 02:19 |
| saivann | asac : I should be there yes :) | 02:19 |
| saivann | asac : It was about network-manager? | 02:20 |
| asac | saivann: yeah. actually i wonder, whether you collected the ubufox translations in hardy :/? | 02:20 |
| asac | or if you even talked to me about that a week or twoo ago :) | 02:20 |
| saivann | asac : I was the one who collected the ubufox translations yes, rosetta is still not working for ubufox I guess? :P | 02:21 |
| asac | well. i failed to enable it because noone could give me feedback how to do that ;) | 02:21 |
| saivann | asac : Oh, bad :) | 02:21 |
| asac | and because i didnt push hard enough i guess ;) | 02:21 |
| saivann | asac : Do you want me to collect translations for intrepid? | 02:22 |
| asac | saivann: anyway. the rescue plan is to look which translations i can get immediately | 02:22 |
| asac | saivann: e.g. by directly pinging people i know that speak the language | 02:22 |
| asac | and sending out a general request for the rest / or all | 02:22 |
| asac | i added new string to separate files | 02:23 |
| asac | so basically the files that need to be translated are: | 02:23 |
| saivann | asac : Just open a bug report so people can attach their translations and I will create a branch including all these translations, if that's what you need | 02:23 |
| asac | ubufox-alt.dtd, ubufox-alt.properties, ubufox-restart.properties | 02:23 |
| asac | saivann: yeah. can you send the mail to the translators mailing list? | 02:24 |
| saivann | asac : I'm not a member of ubuntu translator team so I can send the mail, but without guarantee that it will be delivered.. | 02:25 |
| saivann | asac : But I can send a message to all translation mailing list for all languages | 02:27 |
| saivann | asac : I think that it's what we did with hardy | 02:28 |
| asac | saivann: bug 283517 | 02:30 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 283517 in ubufox "ubufox 0.6 lacks translations for new strings" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/283517 | 02:30 |
| asac | saivann: yes. please to all languages and also if there exists a general list send it there | 02:31 |
| saivann | asac : I assigned the bug to myself, I will do as I did with Hardy | 02:32 |
| asac | saivann: thanks a lot. i guess we only will have a week or so | 02:32 |
| asac | i will ping a few directly tomorrow | 02:32 |
| asac | for fi, es, pt (maybe), zh_TW hmm .. not sure what else ;) | 02:33 |
| saivann | asac : Thanks, and I will send a msg to all mailing list. your bug description is explicit, so I just hope that a lot of translators will answer in time :) | 02:33 |
| asac | so at best send everywhere :) | 02:33 |
| asac | yeah me too | 02:33 |
| saivann | asac : Found the general list! ubuntu-translators@lists.ubuntu.com | 02:36 |
| asac | saivann: ok. if you need moderation there let me know i will ask someone tomorrow | 02:37 |
| saivann | asac : No, I'm subscribed on this list | 02:38 |
| asac | saivann: also you dont need to ask for de (german) i already did that | 02:38 |
| asac | ok even better | 02:38 |
| saivann | asac : Ok | 02:38 |
| === bdmurray_ is now known as bdmurray | ||
| didrocks | asac: after some tests, it seems to work well :) | 07:13 |
| didrocks | - With FF installed | 07:13 |
| didrocks | - with FF removed, we got an error warning (normal, as we don't redirect stderr), but the script end without any error as intented: | 07:13 |
| didrocks | Paramétrage de swfdec-mozilla (0.8.0-0ubuntu1) | 07:13 |
| didrocks | ls: cannot access /usr/lib/firefox-3*/.autoreg: No such file or directory | 07:13 |
| didrocks | (the warning is not bad to my opinion) | 07:14 |
| didrocks | As a hint, I went throuh bash manual and even in set -e, in a loop (or simply, in a test), a command that will not exist as 0 will not make the shell abort. So, the || true is useless in this case. | 07:14 |
| didrocks | The only thing is that I didn't get warned not having a flash player installed (tested in youtube) and I didn't find swfdec nor gnash in the ubufox add-ons | 07:14 |
| === Moot2 is now known as MootBot | ||
| gnomefreak | can someone on intrepid use uname -a and tell me if the time and date are correct | 09:20 |
| fta | that date is not the time as on the clock, but the date the kernel was built | 09:22 |
| gnomefreak | ah ok thanks | 09:39 |
| gnomefreak | fta: can we drop http://www.mozilla.org/projects/firefox/3.1b2pre/whatsnew/ from loading on startup? its a 404 error atleast until it is released or atleast fix the page to use a correct page if there is | 09:42 |
| fta | we can drop it. but it would be better if moz could provide that page | 09:43 |
| fta | [reed], ^^ | 09:43 |
| [reed] | yeah, well | 09:43 |
| [reed] | I haven't decided what I want | 09:44 |
| [reed] | that's actually my call ;) | 09:44 |
| [reed] | as to if that page is there or not | 09:44 |
| gnomefreak | that page should work once 3.1 is released as i recall from other FF versions once releaased it works | 09:46 |
| fta | it works for all milestones | 09:46 |
| fta | a1, a2, b1, b2, final | 09:46 |
| fta | not for *pre | 09:46 |
| gnomefreak | what do the red bugs mean on mozilla bug tracker? | 09:51 |
| gnomefreak | 200 bugs and not one of them is about the error when loading. | 10:02 |
| asac | hi | 10:21 |
| asac | final countdown :) | 10:21 |
| asac | gnomefreak: red bugs? i think those ar ethe one deemed critical/severe | 10:22 |
| asac | (if you refer to the color of the title on the bug list page) | 10:22 |
| gnomefreak | asac: yep | 10:22 |
| gnomefreak | would be nice if i could find the timezone db in sunbird | 10:23 |
| asac | didrocks: please upgrade everything ... then go to a flash side that doesnt use the flash detection kit | 10:24 |
| asac | gnomefreak: isnt that shipped in sunbird itself? or do you mean a web address? | 10:24 |
| asac | (timezone db) | 10:24 |
| gnomefreak | asac: than they left it out | 10:24 |
| gnomefreak | i need to make sure its not there | 10:24 |
| gnomefreak | to be exact 05:16 <Fallen> doesn't it only show up if the timezone db is missing? | 10:26 |
| asac | no... let me try to remember the few last important tasks i wanted to finish ;) | 10:31 |
| gnomefreak | k ;) | 10:31 |
| gnomefreak | im unpacking source to look for it | 10:32 |
| asac | crimsun: wanna prepare final flash? | 10:34 |
| asac | http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash&P2_Platform=Linux | 10:34 |
| asac | we also need a final nspluginwrapper bump to 1.1.2 | 10:35 |
| fta2 | asac, i can do flash | 10:40 |
| gnomefreak | flash should be very easy to update i can do it if he doesnt but nspluginwrapper is another story | 10:40 |
| asac | fta2: wanna try nspluginwrapper too? we have a upsream/.debian branch | 10:41 |
| asac | and tarbball is upstream ;) | 10:41 |
| asac | fta2: go ahead with flash | 10:41 |
| fta2 | ok | 10:41 |
| asac | fta2: let me file a bug | 10:42 |
| asac_ | fta: bug 283673 | 10:50 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 283673 in nspluginwrapper "FFe nspluginwrapper 1.1.2 for intrepid" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/283673 | 10:51 |
| asac_ | reconnect | 10:51 |
| asac_ | 11:41 < fta2> ok | 10:51 |
| asac_ | 11:42 < asac> fta2: let me file a bug | 10:51 |
| asac_ | 11:43 -!- kaaloo1 [n=luis@trinity.pilango.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] | 10:51 |
| asac_ | 11:44 < asac> fta2: bug 283669 | 10:51 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 283669 in flashplugin-nonfree "FFe - final flash 10 for intrepid" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/283669 | 10:51 |
| fta2 | asac_, ok, thanks | 10:54 |
| fta2 | i'll do that after lunch | 10:55 |
| asac_ | fta2: i have no clue if i have the right to grant them. but since its really a mozilla thing i guess so ;) | 10:55 |
| === asac_ is now known as asac | ||
| asac | fta2: actually there is one major thing we might wanna look into | 11:00 |
| asac | even though it scares me a bit and i am not sure if its too high risk | 11:00 |
| asac | (flash) | 11:01 |
| fta2 | ? | 11:01 |
| asac | the actual binary should be linked to /usr/share/ubufox/plugins/ | 11:01 |
| asac | which sounds simple, but since we have two different locations we cannot use dh_link | 11:01 |
| asac | imo we should look into fixing the fact that flash has two different locations | 11:01 |
| asac | by lets say making whatever binary is used available in /var/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/libflashplayer-arch.so | 11:02 |
| asac | which would be a link to the i386 binary on 386 and to the npviewer thing on amd64 | 11:02 |
| asac | would basically add a another link layer to the solution :( | 11:02 |
| gnomefreak | first part of 2 questions for this error i found now for the 2nd why i look for ;) | 11:03 |
| didrocks | asac: I will test that tonight | 11:04 |
| asac | fta2: so what we currently have is: | 11:08 |
| asac | /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/libflashplayer.so | 11:08 |
| asac | <= /usr/lib/xulrunner-addons/flashplugin-alternative.so | 11:09 |
| asac | and | 11:09 |
| asac | /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/libflashplayer.so | 11:09 |
| asac | <= (loaded) /var/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/npwrapper.libflashplayer.so | 11:09 |
| asac | <= /usr/lib/xulrunner-addons/flashplugin-alternative.so | 11:09 |
| asac | thats really ugly | 11:09 |
| asac | i mean the alternative system surely shouldnt be used for doing arch dependent locations | 11:09 |
| asac | and because of that ignorance we have the mess now | 11:10 |
| asac | so the clean solution (please give better ideas if you have) would be: | 11:10 |
| asac | /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/libflashplayer.so | 11:10 |
| asac | <= /var/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/libflashplayer-arch.so | 11:10 |
| asac | <= /usr/lib/xulrunner-addons/flashplugin-alternative.so | 11:10 |
| asac | and | 11:10 |
| asac | /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/libflashplayer.so | 11:10 |
| asac | <= (loaded) /var/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/npwrapper.libflashplayer.so | 11:11 |
| asac | <= /var/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/libflashplayer-arch.so | 11:11 |
| asac | <= /usr/lib/xulrunner-addons/flashplugin-alternative.so | 11:11 |
| asac | (and) /var/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/libflashplayer-arch.so <= /usr/share/ubufox/plugins/libflashplayer.so | 11:12 |
| asac | but i have the feeling that this kind of alternative shuffling will cause risk and frustration for some users | 11:12 |
| asac | and we have no time to flash out usability glitches | 11:13 |
| asac | hmm | 11:13 |
| asac | so maybe we should keep everything as is and just add the -arch.so link and use it for the ubufox link ;) | 11:13 |
| asac | ouch | 11:13 |
| asac | at least that would give us low regression potential and we could avoid adding yet another arch dependent link :( | 11:14 |
| asac | i will post that to another bug | 11:16 |
| asac | fta2: bug 283687 | 11:20 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 283687 in flashplugin-nonfree "flash installer package doesnt support ubufox" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/283687 | 11:20 |
| * gnomefreak wonders why timezone failure causes it to not work at all (cant subscribe to calendar) | 11:23 | |
| gnomefreak | that would also explain why the view isnt changing | 11:24 |
| [reed] | flash 10 has been released | 11:24 |
| [reed] | somebody going to update ubuntu's package? | 11:25 |
| [reed] | oh | 11:25 |
| asac | yay ... thats what we are doing right now ;) | 11:25 |
| gnomefreak | [reed]: fta is | 11:25 |
| [reed] | ok :) | 11:25 |
| * gnomefreak going for smoke while i try to think why the XPI isnt being installed | 11:26 | |
| asac | nspluginwrapper 1.1.2 as well | 11:26 |
| asac | [reed]: today is last day with open archive ;) | 11:26 |
| [reed] | better hurry! | 11:26 |
| asac | well reasonably open ;) | 11:26 |
| asac | yeah. personally i would prefer to start working on jaunty next week ;) | 11:27 |
| asac | (and doing some obligatory install tests) | 11:27 |
| asac | but i have the feeling that that is not going to happen :) | 11:27 |
| armin76 | asac: buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuumb! | 11:27 |
| asac | armin76++ | 11:28 |
| asac | armin76 += major_bumb; | 11:28 |
| asac | at least i know about 2 NM bugs i would rather wanna fix before release ;) | 11:30 |
| asac | saivann: thanks. we already have initial translation contributions ;) | 11:38 |
| asac | nice | 11:38 |
| asac | @time gmt | 12:08 |
| ubottu | Current time in Etc/GMT: October 15 2008, 11:08:50 - Next meeting: ubuntu-us-pa LoCo Team in 1 hour 21 minutes | 12:08 |
| asac | @time | 12:09 |
| ubottu | Current time in Etc/UTC: October 15 2008, 11:09:02 - Next meeting: ubuntu-us-pa LoCo Team in 1 hour 20 minutes | 12:09 |
| asac | @time gmt | 12:09 |
| ubottu | Current time in Etc/GMT: October 15 2008, 11:09:05 - Next meeting: ubuntu-us-pa LoCo Team in 1 hour 20 minutes | 12:09 |
| asac | ok so i was right. gmt==utc | 12:09 |
| asac | @time central | 12:14 |
| ubottu | Current time in Canada/Central: October 15 2008, 06:14:14 - Next meeting: ubuntu-us-pa LoCo Team in 1 hour 15 minutes | 12:14 |
| asac | @time boston | 12:14 |
| ubottu | Error: Unknown timezone: boston - Full list: http://tinyurl.com/4vyvp8 | 12:14 |
| asac | @time US/Eastern | 12:14 |
| ubottu | Current time in US/Eastern: October 15 2008, 07:14:42 - Next meeting: ubuntu-us-pa LoCo Team in 1 hour 15 minutes | 12:14 |
| directhex | asac, yes, GMT==UTC. | 12:14 |
| directhex | @time BST | 12:14 |
| ubottu | Error: Unknown timezone: BST - Full list: http://tinyurl.com/4vyvp8 | 12:14 |
| asac | ah | 12:14 |
| asac | @time US/Central | 12:15 |
| ubottu | Current time in US/Central: October 15 2008, 06:15:01 - Next meeting: ubuntu-us-pa LoCo Team in 1 hour 14 minutes | 12:15 |
| asac | ok :) | 12:15 |
| directhex | @time Europe/London | 12:15 |
| ubottu | Current time in Europe/London: October 15 2008, 12:15:20 - Next meeting: ubuntu-us-pa LoCo Team in 1 hour 14 minutes | 12:15 |
| asac | directhex: tell that to americans ;) | 12:15 |
| asac | (to some at least) | 12:15 |
| directhex | now, some would have you believe that greenwich mean time, measured at greenwich in london, is on a different timezone to, well, the rest of the country | 12:15 |
| directhex | those people are crack smokers | 12:16 |
| asac | well gmt doesnt have DST | 12:16 |
| asac | its always confusing when people say GMT, but mean london ;) | 12:16 |
| directhex | well, yes. GMT doesn't move, we just switch timezone to BST when we get bored | 12:17 |
| asac | fta2: please ping me about final flash package polishing ;) | 12:22 |
| asac | i will do lunch now | 12:22 |
| asac | we ahve to add a bunch of Npp- headers | 12:22 |
| directhex | can someone be an absolute sweetheart & tell me i'f i'm getting my Npp- stuff right with http://svn.debian.org/wsvn/pkg-mono/moon/trunk/debian/control?op=file&rev=0&sc=0 ? | 12:31 |
| asac | directhex: yeah. except that there are new fields | 12:37 |
| asac | directhex: Xb-Npp-Description: | 12:38 |
| asac | directhex: Xb-Npp-File: | 12:38 |
| directhex | asac, docs? | 12:38 |
| asac | look at the gnash package or gecko-mplayer | 12:38 |
| asac | directhex: no docs | 12:38 |
| asac | they are too new | 12:38 |
| asac | the -File thing should be a the file name of your plugin .so | 12:38 |
| directhex | and if the plugin .so is more than one file? | 12:39 |
| asac | if you have multiple plugin .so it should be the common substring of all at best | 12:39 |
| asac | directhex: more than one file?= | 12:39 |
| asac | directhex: what matters is the file that gets linked to the "plugins" dir | 12:39 |
| asac | otherfielws like libs/python etc. dont matter for this case | 12:39 |
| asac | directhex: look at about:plugins | 12:39 |
| asac | there is a filename | 12:39 |
| asac | if your plugin shows up only once, use that filename | 12:40 |
| asac | otherwise use a substring that matches all your plugin variants | 12:40 |
| asac | like "mplayerplugin-in-" | 12:40 |
| asac | which covers all mplayer plugins shipped in mozilla-mplayer | 12:40 |
| asac | directhex: Description is a short one line description outlining the purpose | 12:41 |
| directhex | okay, and (here's a real edge case for you), if the plugin is split across more than one package? | 12:41 |
| asac | directhex: for inspiration you can look at gnash of swfdec-mozilla or maybe mplayer-plug-in | 12:41 |
| asac | directhex: well. i doubt that the plugin itself is spread out | 12:41 |
| asac | directhex: maybe you have some dependency packages or something | 12:41 |
| asac | what counts here is the moonlight-plugin-mozilla | 12:42 |
| asac | and the file that gets liked to xulrunner-addons/plugins | 12:42 |
| asac | (and please link it to usr/share/ubufox/plugins too if we havent discussed that) | 12:42 |
| directhex | you haven't. and there's more complexity here than i think you were expecting | 12:43 |
| asac | directhex: huh? | 12:43 |
| asac | directhex: there is no complexity ;) | 12:43 |
| asac | its just two fields :( | 12:43 |
| directhex | asac, yeah, but some plugins are more complex than others | 12:43 |
| asac | directhex: i doubt that your package hits that | 12:43 |
| asac | directhex: look. you only provide a single mime-type. that cant be complex | 12:43 |
| asac | from the plugin point of view | 12:44 |
| asac | directhex: so how many plugins show up in about:plugins? | 12:44 |
| sebner | asac: flash final is now out and in the new queue to change to the partner archive later. crazy isn't it? | 12:44 |
| asac | sebner: err | 12:44 |
| asac | who uploaded that? | 12:44 |
| sebner | asac: dunno. just saw it in the new queue recently | 12:45 |
| asac | sebner: where is the new queue? | 12:45 |
| sebner | Asks the canoncial guy ^^ | 12:45 |
| sebner | https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/intrepid/+queue | 12:45 |
| asac | sebner: thats ok | 12:45 |
| sebner | well it's called adobe-flashplugin | 12:46 |
| asac | sebner: its supposed to go there | 12:46 |
| sebner | asac: why? We have our own one | 12:46 |
| asac | sebner: unfortunately its too late to make the -installer package in multiverse download that instead of the one from adobe website | 12:46 |
| asac | sebner: the commercial archive is != multiverse | 12:46 |
| asac | its independent | 12:46 |
| sebner | asac: sure but we already have flash so we don't need flash also if it's from adobe themselves | 12:47 |
| asac | sebner: our flash package sucks | 12:47 |
| asac | sebner: we need our own in partner archive. and then make our installer package get the .so from that archive instead of from adobe side | 12:48 |
| directhex | asac, hm, seems the plugin is working out stuff i wasn't expecting it to be able to. right. | 12:48 |
| sebner | asac: so the flash package from adobe is better than ours? why? | 12:48 |
| sebner | directhex: aloha btw :) | 12:48 |
| directhex | morning sebner | 12:48 |
| asac | sebner: we dont have a flash package | 12:48 |
| directhex | well, afternoon | 12:48 |
| sebner | asac: because we are not allowed to | 12:48 |
| asac | sebner: we have a installer package that breaks whenever adobe points their download link somewhere else | 12:49 |
| asac | sebner: so now we distribute their package in our archive and that wont happen anymore | 12:49 |
| sebner | asac: but is their package (packaging) ok? | 12:49 |
| asac | sebner: its the official packaging | 12:50 |
| asac | sebner: they distribute the same from their website too | 12:50 |
| sebner | asac: does that mean with jaunty our flash package disappers from multiverse? | 12:50 |
| asac | so putting that to partner wont make things worse. only improves the situation that we can better coordinate rolling out updates | 12:50 |
| directhex | asac, okay, you were right after all. so. question 1: can Xb-Npp-File: point to a different file than is contained in the package (i.e. one of its deps)? | 12:50 |
| asac | sebner: you are always talkinga bout "flash" package ... we only have "installer" package. and no, the idea is to keep it | 12:51 |
| sebner | asac: kk ^^ | 12:51 |
| asac | sebner: and my idea is to rename in adobe-flashplugin-installer | 12:51 |
| asac | directhex: why? | 12:51 |
| asac | directhex: why isnt the plugin .so not shipped in the -plugin package? | 12:51 |
| asac | directhex: atm it doesnt matter if the file is really in the topmost package, but thats an implementation detail i wouldnt like to rely on | 12:52 |
| sebner | asac: ^^, but we update the *installer* package to the final of course? | 12:52 |
| asac | anyway ... have to do lunch now | 12:52 |
| sebner | asac: hf | 12:52 |
| asac | sebner: read the backlog of this channel | 12:52 |
| asac | there was discussion about this | 12:52 |
| asac | (earlier today) | 12:53 |
| sebner | asac: my backlog starts at 13 o'clock :\ | 12:53 |
| directhex | asac, moonlight has 2 components, the core plugin (which works in any browser, in theory) and a "bridge", required on a per-browser-engine basis for extra things like access to DOM. in this case, libmoonplugin-ff3bridge.so is automatically dlopen'd if the parent browser is xulrunner 1.9-based. so for the purposes of a firefox plugin, the "right" behaviour is for the moonlight-plugin-mozilla package to pull in the core plugin | 12:54 |
| directhex | as a dep, and contain only the bridge itself. other bridges, e.g. for webkit, will appear over time. | 12:54 |
| asac | sebner: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2008/10/15/%23ubuntu-mozillateam.html | 12:54 |
| sebner | asac: ah ^^, thx | 12:55 |
| directhex | asac, so whilst the plugin as far as moz is concerned is libmoonloader.so, from the core package, in order for the plugin to actually work on that browser the package containing libmoonplugin-ff3bridge.so is needed (hence me wanting to depend on that file's package, even though it doesn't contain the actual plugin) | 12:57 |
| directhex | a merry dance! | 12:57 |
| sebner | asac: ah I understand. cool. btw, do you also sleep? I don't think so :P | 12:58 |
| fta2 | asac, i can't find a direct link, just http://fpdownload.macromedia.com/get/flashplayer/current/install_flash_player_10_linux.tar.gz but i don't like "current" | 13:10 |
| asac | fta2: look in the queue | 13:10 |
| asac | see a few lines above | 13:10 |
| asac | we haveoh sorry | 13:10 |
| asac | fta2: yeah. most likely the best link we have | 13:11 |
| fta2 | for rc, we had http://download.macromedia.com/pub/labs/flashplayer10/flashplayer10_install_linux_091508.tar.gz | 13:11 |
| asac | yeah | 13:11 |
| fta2 | but once they bump it, the md5 will fail | 13:12 |
| asac | adobe doesnt ship versioned links for finals | 13:12 |
| fta2 | ok then | 13:12 |
| asac | fta2: right. but it was always that way | 13:12 |
| asac | we should do an SRU once the new flashplugin package is in partner archive | 13:12 |
| asac | and get the .so from there | 13:12 |
| asac | directhex: whatever. add the file that will show up | 13:13 |
| asac | even ifi ts in a depend | 13:14 |
| directhex | asac, roger. | 13:14 |
| asac | (though i dont like that archicture) | 13:14 |
| directhex | asac, okay, next question then. what is the *right* thing to do with dh_link? it sounds like i wasn't doing it right | 13:14 |
| directhex | asac, what should link where? | 13:14 |
| asac | directhex: hmm | 13:15 |
| asac | directhex: nevermind ;) | 13:15 |
| asac | directhex: its not relevant because there are no "alternatives" | 13:15 |
| asac | so just add those two meta fields | 13:15 |
| asac | and all sohuld be fine | 13:15 |
| directhex | asac, so dh_link -pmoonlight-plugin-mozilla usr/lib/moon/plugin/libmoonloader.so $(XULRUNNER_19_PLUGDIR)/libmoonloader.so | 13:16 |
| asac | assuming that XULRUNNER_19_PLUGDIR is correct that looks good | 13:17 |
| directhex | ifeq ($(DISTRO),"Ubuntu") | 13:18 |
| directhex | XULRUNNER_19_PLUGDIR = "usr/lib/xulrunner-addons/plugins" | 13:18 |
| asac | looks good | 13:18 |
| directhex | making a merge patch just for the sake of one link seems silly | 13:19 |
| fta2 | asac, i'm done with the bump (but i'm on the phone) | 13:20 |
| asac | fta2 take your tinme. we still have ~12h ;) | 13:20 |
| asac | fta2: did you do nspluginwrapper too? | 13:21 |
| fta2 | no, but everything is possible :) | 13:21 |
| fta2 | let me finish my meeting 1st | 13:21 |
| asac | hehe | 13:22 |
| asac | i like that idea | 13:22 |
| asac | sure | 13:22 |
| asac | i have a call in 1h ... after that i will do a bunch of things and then can help on this too | 13:22 |
| directhex | you've obviously got lots of spare time, so you can try a test build of this package if you like :) | 13:32 |
| asac | spare time? | 13:33 |
| asac | eating ;) | 13:33 |
| asac | eating time is the opposite of spare time, because its one of the most principal survival operation modes ;) | 13:34 |
| asac | directhex: try to get that package into fta archive | 13:34 |
| asac | directhex: thats the place were the beyond-the-edge users live | 13:34 |
| directhex | fta? | 13:35 |
| asac | directhex: once jaunty opens we will upload it then to real archive | 13:35 |
| asac | directhex: yes mozillateam member here in hte channel: the great and glorious fta2 ;) | 13:35 |
| directhex | asac, once mono 2.0 lands in debian experimental, then i'll re-sculpt the package to add silverlight 2.0 support which i'm currently not building, and also add to experimental. for now, i could always shove it in my own hardy repo. | 13:38 |
| directhex | brb, kernel-update-reboot | 13:38 |
| fta2 | what about my archive? | 13:40 |
| directhex | i return! | 13:45 |
| fta2 | what about my archive? | 13:48 |
| asac | fta2: i mentioned to directhex that a good stage to prepare archive upload is to get it first in your archive ;) | 13:58 |
| asac | fta2: is bug 283080 fixed now or do we need to touch the branding branch still? | 14:04 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 283080 in firefox-3.0 "Update Firefox for lpia to 3.0.1 (hardy)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/283080 | 14:04 |
| fta2 | asac, bug 274187 moved | 14:05 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 274187 in ubuntu "FFe - firefox 3.1 and xulrunner 1.9.1 for intrepid/universe" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/274187 | 14:05 |
| asac | replied | 14:09 |
| asac | i think we shouldnt ship that in intrepid anymore | 14:09 |
| asac | ok taking short break and then a call | 14:23 |
| fta2 | asac, where is nspluginwrapper 1.1.2 tarball ? can't find it upstream | 14:58 |
| saivann | asac : Wow, we got a lot of translations for ubufox today. I'm reviewing them.. | 14:58 |
| fta2 | got it | 15:31 |
| directhex | added moon to my personal repo, though obviously it doesn't show up in the plugin finder | 15:32 |
| asac | fta2: let me check | 15:35 |
| fta2 | asac, nm, i have it | 15:35 |
| asac | fta2: http://gwenole.beauchesne.info/en/blog/2008/10/13/nspluginwrapper_1.1.2 | 15:35 |
| asac | ok | 15:35 |
| fta2 | yep, a blog :( | 15:36 |
| asac | fta2: well. at least he has a mailing list now (sponsored by redhat) | 15:37 |
| asac | and we look into getting his sources in some repo (which he only publishes as tarballs) | 15:37 |
| asac | fta2: did i talk to you about the new Npp- thigns for plugsin? | 15:39 |
| fta2 | you didn't | 15:39 |
| fta2 | i'm all ears | 15:39 |
| asac | fta2: we need to add Xb-Npp-Description: and Xb-Npp-File: | 15:40 |
| asac | look at gnash or swfdec-mozilla | 15:40 |
| asac | description should be a short line describint what it does | 15:40 |
| asac | e.g. let me give you a screen | 15:40 |
| fta2 | i already have: | 15:41 |
| fta2 | Xb-Npp-Applications: ec8030f7-c20a-464f-9b0e-13a3a9e97384, 92650c4d-4b8e-4d2a-b7eb-24ecf4f6b63a, aa5ca914-c309-495d-91cf-3141bbb04115, | 15:41 |
| fta2 | Xb-Npp-MimeType: application/x-shockwave-flash | 15:41 |
| fta2 | Xb-Npp-Name: Adobe Flash Player (installer) | 15:41 |
| asac | fta2: http://people.ubuntu.com/~asac/tmp/pfs1.png | 15:41 |
| asac | fta2: yes. new are -File and -Description | 15:42 |
| asac | fta2: file is supposed the longest substring that identifies the plugin as what you see in about:plugins | 15:42 |
| asac | i think libflashplayer.so is fine | 15:42 |
| asac | but we should look if the npviewer thign also has that substring | 15:42 |
| asac | fta2: http://people.ubuntu.com/~asac/tmp/alt1.png | 15:44 |
| asac | http://people.ubuntu.com/~asac/tmp/alt2.png | 15:44 |
| directhex | File name: npwrapper.libflashplayer.so | 15:44 |
| asac | thats why we need the -File ... otehrwise we cannot display a decent name in there | 15:44 |
| asac | yeah. so libflashplayer.so is right | 15:44 |
| asac | as its a proper substring for the amd thign too | 15:44 |
| fta2 | ok, Xb-Npp-File: libflashplayer.so, what about Xb-Npp-Description ? | 15:47 |
| asac | fta2: just Adobe Flash SWF Player (http://www.adobe.com) | 15:49 |
| saivann | asac : I need to know something about ubufox locales | 15:50 |
| saivann | asac : ubufox.properties often point to /usr/share/ubuntu-artwork/home/index.html | 15:51 |
| saivann | asac : /usr/share/ubuntu-artwork/home/index.html is a symlink. I'd like to know if that symlink always point to the right locale? | 15:51 |
| saivann | asac : Or do I need to change it for the appropriate one manually in the ubufox.properties file? Ex. /usr/share/ubuntu-artwork/home/locales-ubuntu/index-fr_FR.html | 15:52 |
| asac | saivann: which key points to that? | 15:54 |
| saivann | asac : app.update.url.details | 15:54 |
| asac | is that the same for the en-US locale | 15:54 |
| saivann | asac : and browser.throbber.url | 15:54 |
| saivann | asac : so far, we used /usr/share/ubuntu-artwork/home/index.html for the en_US locale but I wonder if we should do this for all locales. That will depend if /usr/share/ubuntu-artwork/home/index.html always point to the right localised HTML page | 15:55 |
| fta2 | asac, http://paste.ubuntu.com/57919/ | 16:01 |
| asac | saivann: err. are you sure its still that path? and not about:blank= | 16:05 |
| asac | saivann: ok. yeah. just keep them as they are | 16:06 |
| asac | fta2: looks good. maybe see if there is a better short-url for the descriptin that is more "flash" sepecific | 16:06 |
| saivann | asac : So I can keep /usr/share/ubuntu-artwork/home/index.html for all locales? | 16:07 |
| asac | saivann: yes i think that should be ok | 16:08 |
| fta2 | asac, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash but it's not up-to-date | 16:08 |
| asac | sorry ... meeting :( | 16:09 |
| saivann | asac : Thanks for your answer | 16:09 |
| directhex | mozillateam, ten-HUT! i need clever ideas. | 16:24 |
| directhex | there's an ickle problem with using Npp- goodness in moonlight | 16:24 |
| directhex | you know how if you hit a youtube video without flash installed, rather than spawning the plugin finder, you get a javascript-triggered message linking you to adobe.com to download the plugin? | 16:25 |
| directhex | well, *all* silverlight has that behaviour. the standard SL embedding API involves a copy of a javascript file, Silverlight.js, which always draws an "install silverlight" button instead of trying to create the failing embedded object | 16:26 |
| sebner | directhex: mono uploaded 1 minute ago. nice work! | 16:38 |
| asac | directhex: yeah its a mess | 16:39 |
| directhex | sebner, ah, cool. dholbach must've sponsored it, he had an eye on it this morning | 16:39 |
| asac | directhex: you have to wait for the anti-plugin-detection kit | 16:39 |
| directhex | asac, so this is a known problem with planned workarounds? | 16:39 |
| asac | directhex: which i have started to prototype at some point but couldnt finish in time for intrepid | 16:39 |
| asac | directhex: this is ugly and an ugly hack is required yes. | 16:40 |
| asac | directhex: we should talk about that after intrepid is out | 16:40 |
| asac | currently have no time to go into details | 16:40 |
| directhex | yeah, no worries. you focus on release | 16:40 |
| directhex | according to sebner my intrepid release goals have been met ;) | 16:40 |
| asac | except that we can notice if someone probes for a plugin and then trigger the "install missing plugins..." thign | 16:40 |
| sebner | directhex: hrhr | 16:41 |
| directhex | sebner, release goal: return some values from "zgrep directhex /usr/share/doc/*/changelog.debian.gz" on an out-of-box install :p | 16:42 |
| sebner | lol | 16:43 |
| directhex | goal met! | 16:43 |
| sebner | directhex: now you wait until the archives for jaunty open? ^^ | 16:45 |
| directhex | honestly? i don't explicitly need jaunty open to work on my current TODO. i need meebey to finish packaging mono 2 for debian experimental, and then i can start work on a big bucket of other stuff for experimental | 16:46 |
| directhex | i don't really need to worry too hard about jaunty until january. and hell, i may well keep hardy w/ my backports installed (i do all my building & testing on hardy) | 16:47 |
| directhex | hell, it doesn't even need to land in experimental, i just need it in svn | 16:48 |
| sebner | directhex: ^^ | 16:49 |
| directhex | but then i can update things like mono-basic (jaunty will be the first ubuntu with visual basic.net support), xsp/mod-mono, monodoc, all that jazz | 16:49 |
| directhex | my jaunty release goals are twofold: shrink mono's footprint on the install cd by 20 meg, and ship an unmodified debian mono | 16:50 |
| sebner | directhex: good luck then | 16:51 |
| fta2 | asac, i'm done with both flashplugin-nonfree and nspluginwrapper. previews are in my ppa | 17:25 |
| asac | fta2: Version: 10.0.12.36ubuntu1~fta1? | 17:29 |
| asac | there is no Npp stuff in there? | 17:29 |
| fta2 | ? | 17:29 |
| fta2 | yes there is | 17:29 |
| asac | not here :( | 17:30 |
| fta2 | eh? | 17:30 |
| asac | 10.0.12.10ubuntu1 | 17:30 |
| asac | has Npp-Application,Name,MimeType | 17:30 |
| asac | the one above has non ... at least in apt-cache show | 17:30 |
| fta2 | fta@cube:~ $ wget -q https://edge.launchpad.net/%7Efta/+archive/+files/flashplugin-nonfree_10.0.12.36ubuntu1~fta1_i386.deb | 17:33 |
| fta2 | fta@cube:~ $ dpkg --info flashplugin-nonfree_10.0.12.36ubuntu1~fta1_i386.deb | grep Npp | 17:33 |
| fta2 | Npp-Applications: ec8030f7-c20a-464f-9b0e-13a3a9e97384, 92650c4d-4b8e-4d2a-b7eb-24ecf4f6b63a, aa5ca914-c309-495d-91cf-3141bbb04115 | 17:33 |
| fta2 | Npp-Description: Adobe Flash SWF Player (http://www.adobe.com) | 17:33 |
| fta2 | Npp-File: libflashplayer.so | 17:33 |
| fta2 | Npp-Mimetype: application/x-shockwave-flash | 17:33 |
| fta2 | Npp-Name: Adobe Flash Player (installer) | 17:33 |
| asac | fta2: yeah. all fine ... please upload | 17:33 |
| asac | and remember to push nspluginwrapper to the ~ubuntu-dev branches. thanks | 17:33 |
| fta2 | done already | 17:33 |
| asac | ok | 17:33 |
| asac | fta2: oh wait | 17:33 |
| asac | fta2: there is a trailing "," in the MimeType line? | 17:34 |
| asac | err in the Applications line i mean | 17:34 |
| asac | Xb-Npp-Applications: ec8030f7-c20a-464f-9b0e-13a3a9e97384, 92650c4d-4b8e-4d2a-b7eb-24ecf4f6b63a, aa5ca914-c309-495d-91cf-3141bbb04115, | 17:34 |
| asac | was that in there before? | 17:34 |
| asac | maybe we lost an entry or something? | 17:34 |
| fta2 | fta@cube:~ $ dpkg --info flashplugin-nonfree_10.0.12.36ubuntu1~fta1_i386.deb | grep Npp-Applications | 17:34 |
| fta2 | Npp-Applications: ec8030f7-c20a-464f-9b0e-13a3a9e97384, 92650c4d-4b8e-4d2a-b7eb-24ecf4f6b63a, aa5ca914-c309-495d-91cf-3141bbb04115 | 17:34 |
| fta2 | fta@cube:~ $ | 17:34 |
| fta2 | i didn't touch that line | 17:34 |
| asac | ok | 17:34 |
| asac | most likely itw as lost at some point | 17:35 |
| asac | if the resultl ooksl ike that its fine | 17:35 |
| asac | though we shoudl investigate at some point | 17:35 |
| fta2 | i can remove it | 17:35 |
| asac | for now just upload | 17:35 |
| asac | yeah or do that | 17:35 |
| asac | whatever you prefer | 17:35 |
| fta2 | fixed and pushed | 17:36 |
| asac | great | 17:37 |
| asac | nspluginwrapper too | 17:37 |
| asac | then there is not much left for us :/ | 17:37 |
| fta2 | did you test it? | 17:37 |
| asac | except the general "update extension meta data round" ... but i hope jazzva comes back soon :) | 17:37 |
| asac | yes | 17:37 |
| asac | briefly | 17:37 |
| fta2 | so i should i push it or wait? | 17:39 |
| fta2 | -i | 17:39 |
| fta2 | subject: [ubuntu/intrepid] flashplugin-nonfree 10.0.12.36ubuntu1 (Accepted) | 17:41 |
| asac | nspluginwrapper too pleas | 17:44 |
| fta2 | done | 17:46 |
| fta2 | subject: [ubuntu/intrepid] nspluginwrapper 1.1.2-0ubuntu1 (Accepted) | 17:58 |
| fta2 | ok, leaving. cu later | 17:58 |
| directhex | asac, minor note r.e. http://people.ubuntu.com/~asac/tmp/pfs1.png - "these plugins" - it installs all three of them? surely it should be "the selected plugin"? | 19:16 |
| asac | directhex: yeah. maybe. but string freeze is up ;) | 19:19 |
| directhex | -_- | 19:19 |
| asac | directhex: point is that the wizard can also do more than one mime-type at the same time | 19:32 |
| directhex | okay, so selected plugins! the text still says "select whatever, they is all goin' on" right now ;) | 19:35 |
| asac | pheh. details ;) | 19:40 |
| asac | we should change that after interpid | 19:40 |
| fta | back | 21:14 |
| asac | fta: do you remember when we opened up the maxVersion= in firefox? | 21:27 |
| asac | was it 3.0.1? | 21:27 |
| asac | or 3.0.2? | 21:27 |
| fta | hm, 3.0.1 | 21:29 |
| saivann | asac : What is the deadline for ubufox translations? | 21:48 |
| mconnor | asac: what do you mean by opened up? | 21:50 |
| fta | for fixed versions to 3.0.* | 21:51 |
| fta | -for-from | 21:52 |
| fta | +binary-post-install/firefox-3.0:: | 21:56 |
| fta | + sed -i -e 's/^MaxVersion=.*/MaxVersion=1.9.0.*/' debian/firefox-3.0/$(DEBIAN_FF3_DIR)/application.ini | 21:56 |
| fta | + sed -i -e 's/^MinVersion=.*/MinVersion=1.9.0.1/' debian/firefox-3.0/$(DEBIAN_FF3_DIR)/application.ini | 21:56 |
| fta | [reed], so, what about the release notes page? | 22:08 |
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| crimsun | asac: what do you think about bug 283718? should I make that change? | 22:42 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 283718 in flashplugin-nonfree "Installing adobe-flashplugin alongside flashplugin-nonfree fails" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/283718 | 22:42 |
| fta | hm, we can't add conflicts for all foreign packages, and i don't think we should | 22:45 |
| crimsun | fta: absolutely agreed. However, the maintainer information for Adobe's official adobe-flashplugin package lists Ubuntu Core Developers (!) | 22:47 |
| fta | bad, we should file a bug upstream | 22:47 |
| crimsun | did someone from Adobe work with Canonical to get their package into main/restricted, or? | 22:47 |
| fta | no idea | 22:47 |
| crimsun | that's my hunch, at least, so I was a bit surprised | 22:48 |
| crimsun | on the other hand, what we have is a known-upstream-package, so I perhaps we should Conflict with it? | 22:48 |
| crimsun | E.g., it's not the same as any old "random" third-party deb | 22:49 |
| crimsun | so perhaps ^ | 22:49 |
| fta | yeah, maybe | 22:56 |
| fta | asac, http://weblogs.mozillazine.org/calendar/2008/10/calendar_code_moving_to_commce.html | 22:56 |
| crimsun | well, I'll post the debdiff, and you guys can decide to accept/ignore :-) | 22:58 |
| fta | too bad i pushed flashplugin-nonfree just a few hours ago :( | 22:59 |
| fta | i prefer grouped changes | 22:59 |
| crimsun | eh, it always happens right before freeze on any project :-) | 23:00 |
| asac | read my bug comment please | 23:00 |
| asac | its a bug in the other package | 23:00 |
| crimsun | ah, so perhaps adobe-flashplugin needs to C+R flashplugin-nonfree | 23:01 |
| crimsun | a non-trivial number of users are going to install it via the upstream channel, so ... | 23:03 |
| fta | i think only those who tracked upstream and complained about lack of final in intrepid did | 23:05 |
| fta | so just the guys in the intrepid forum | 23:06 |
| crimsun | at least one person blogged about upstream making a deb/apt-url available | 23:06 |
| crimsun | oh well, the fires from this one won't be that big, and it's not difficult to work around | 23:07 |
| asac | crimsun: the bug is that adobe-flashplugin does conflict flashplugin-nonfree ... which it just shouldnt do | 23:09 |
| asac | the files in it dont conflict. and it uses the alternative system | 23:10 |
| asac | so it should just work without that conflict | 23:10 |
| asac | will try to get that bug to the flash packager | 23:10 |
| crimsun | asac: ok | 23:11 |
| fta | asac, http://gquigs.blogspot.com/2008/10/openoffice-30-not-in-intrepid.html | 23:11 |
| asac | fta: i dont understand his 3.1 point. we do that | 23:12 |
| fta | i think i mean to push all that to the archive | 23:13 |
| fta | -i mean+he means | 23:13 |
| fta | (i'm tired) | 23:13 |
| asac | err. i think he said that we shouldnt wait till final is out, but include the version that will probably be final when we release | 23:15 |
| asac | e.g. what we did for ffox 3.0 | 23:15 |
| asac | (and got hit hard by that) | 23:15 |
| asac | and what we will most likely to for 3.1 | 23:15 |
| asac | i think his point is valid for 3.0. but nobody could really see whether 3.0 would be final | 23:15 |
| asac | OOO | 23:15 |
| asac | ^^ | 23:15 |
| asac | ;) | 23:15 |
| asac | not firefox 3.0 | 23:15 |
| fta | http://paste.ubuntu.com/58077/ :) | 23:17 |
| fta | ok, here it is: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-adobe-flash-player-10-in-ubuntu-804-hardy-heron.html | 23:22 |
| fta | same guy who recommended ppa and various 3rd party repos | 23:22 |
| fta | he clearly said "Remove your existing Flash plugin, if you have one installed" | 23:24 |
| directhex | fta, people do that. and sometimes third party repos make sense - unfortunately for the user, some repos are better than others | 23:25 |
| directhex | and there's no way to be sure | 23:26 |
| asac | fta: well. thats the right thing if you want to install that package obviously | 23:26 |
| asac | as the pacakage as of now conflicts on it | 23:26 |
| crimsun | this would all just go away if Adobe used our package :-) | 23:26 |
| crimsun | (obviously, adapted, not just a straight one-takeup) | 23:27 |
| asac | \o/ Jazzva ;) | 23:27 |
| Jazzva | Evening... I'm back from my vacation (which was great :D) | 23:27 |
| Jazzva | \o/ asac | 23:27 |
| Jazzva | :P | 23:27 |
| Jazzva | What's new? | 23:27 |
| asac | great. hope you enjoyed your vacation ;) | 23:28 |
| Jazzva | pretty much :) | 23:28 |
| directhex | anywhere fun? | 23:28 |
| Jazzva | directhex, boston and new york | 23:28 |
| Jazzva | was fun for me :) | 23:28 |
| Jazzva | asac, I also got a new computer, inspiron 1525 | 23:28 |
| Jazzva | so, anything new? something particular that needs some love? :) | 23:29 |
| asac | Jazzva: great | 23:30 |
| asac | good to have you back ;) | 23:30 |
| asac | i will talk to you in 6 minutes ;) | 23:31 |
| Jazzva | ok :) | 23:31 |
| fta | Jazzva, i have an inspiron 1525 too :) | 23:31 |
| fta | the red one | 23:32 |
| Jazzva | i have the black one :) | 23:32 |
| Jazzva | the sticker "Rediscover the web" looks good on it's cover ;) | 23:32 |
| fta | I have it too | 23:33 |
| Jazzva | now just to find an ubuntu logo, to put it in the oposite corner :) | 23:33 |
| Jazzva | the big sticker is too big. I think I'll just cut the logo from it, and put it on the cover. | 23:33 |
| fta | plus a firefox, a lizzard, an ubuntu logo, etc.. | 23:33 |
| fta | round ubuntu logo on top of the dell logo :) | 23:34 |
| Jazzva | I like stickers, but not randomly put... some order is needed :) | 23:34 |
| Jazzva | I don't have that big sticker :sigh: | 23:34 |
| asac | Jazzva: hehe ;) | 23:39 |
| asac | Jazzva: one thing that needs some love is as always the extension meta file ;) | 23:39 |
| asac | e.g. as a last minute thing | 23:39 |
| Jazzva | for app-data? | 23:39 |
| asac | yeah | 23:40 |
| Jazzva | sure, I'll put them up :) | 23:40 |
| asac | unless this happens automagically it probably isnt done for this cycle ;) | 23:40 |
| asac | Jazzva: ah. also we removed firefox 2 from the archive and the locales accordingly | 23:40 |
| Jazzva | was the bug with extensions not visible in app-install fixed? | 23:40 |
| asac | Jazzva: didnt you prepare a list of extensions that dont work on ffox3? | 23:40 |
| asac | Jazzva: i hope that was fixed | 23:40 |
| Jazzva | I have.. and it's located... somewhere | 23:40 |
| Jazzva | I'll have to look at the old computer | 23:41 |
| asac | Jazzva: if you could test that we could do an emergency action in case thats not yet fixed ;) | 23:41 |
| Jazzva | but there is a script that checks for broken-deps (I think). It should be available at ubuntuwire, IIRC | 23:41 |
| Jazzva | asac: Ok, I'll check it | 23:41 |
| Jazzva | ah...that don't work on ff*3*. I think there are two of them | 23:42 |
| Jazzva | let me check the list | 23:42 |
| Jazzva | er, one only: diggler. I thinke nukeimage was also unsupported, but I see it was updated for ff3 by you ;) | 23:44 |
| Jazzva | diggler was merged from debian, but I don't see support for ff3 in it's changelog https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/diggler | 23:45 |
| Jazzva | ah, it's there... | 23:45 |
| Jazzva | I'll still test it, as the only change is to bump maxVersion in install.rdf | 23:46 |
| Jazzva | s/is/was/ | 23:46 |
| asac | k. so all are now supported nice | 23:48 |
| asac | Jazzva: maybe take a quick look when reviewing the app-install data stuff | 23:48 |
| Jazzva | mhm... | 23:49 |
| asac | ok thats it for NM in intrepid i hope | 23:50 |
| asac | only one routing bug left for which i dont know what to do | 23:50 |
| asac | looks like we wills start into intrepid with 0.7~~svn20081015t024626 ;) | 23:51 |
| asac | and 0.7~~svn20081015t194645 for applet :) | 23:51 |
| fta | -rw-r--r-- 1 fta fta 45669357 2008-08-14 00:32 ../tarballs/thunderbird-3.0_3.0~a2+nobinonly.orig.tar.gz | 23:53 |
| fta | -rw-r--r-- 1 fta fta 62556017 2008-10-16 00:16 ../tarballs/thunderbird-3.0_3.0~b1~hg20081015r619+nobinonly.orig.tar.gz | 23:53 |
| fta | gasp | 23:53 |
| asac | fta: yeah ;) go for in-source lzma i would say | 23:53 |
| asac | everything else is just ridiculous | 23:53 |
| asac | we would come close to OOO ... and thats a mess | 23:53 |
| fta | 37% increase | 23:53 |
| fta | that mozcentral-commcentral thing is the worse idea ever | 23:54 |
| fta | lol, oo is ~197M | 23:58 |
| asac | fta: i think 3.0 is half a gig | 23:59 |
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