[00:00] <ikonia> ladies, gents, bed time
[00:00] <LjL> night
[00:00] <Pici> byas
[00:01] <ikonia> night
[00:30] <PriceChild> Trumpets!
[00:30] <Pici> toot!
[01:01] <Myrtti> ♥ ♥ ♥ I LOVE YOU ALL ♥ ♥ ♥ 
[01:02] <PriceChild> my unicode fail?
[01:03] <Flannel> PriceChild: works for me
[01:07] <PriceChild> yep, my unicode fail then
[01:08]  * Hobbsee covers PriceChild in treesap.
[01:09] <PriceChild> :O how rude
[01:09]  * PriceChild covers Hobbsee in fail
[01:09] <Hobbsee> mmm, fail..
[01:20] <PriceChild> Hi bunnyto, can we help?
[01:22] <bunnyto> is this ubuntu?
[01:23] <PriceChild> bunnyto: nope, this is 
[01:23] <PriceChild> bah silly keyboard
[01:23] <PriceChild> This is #ubuntu-ops
[01:23] <bunnyto> oh i see, may i become op?
[01:23] <PriceChild> bunnyto: why would you like to be an op?
[01:24] <bunnyto> to abuse of people on the irc
[01:24] <PriceChild> Ah yes that is always fun.
[01:25] <Hobbsee> PriceChild: i didn't think you were supposed to admit to that?
[01:25] <PriceChild> oh.... yeah... erm :/
[01:25] <PriceChild> bunnyto: So you're banned from 
[01:26] <PriceChild> #ubuntu, let me find out why.
[01:26] <PriceChild> and grrrr at stupid placement of return and # on this keyboard
[01:33] <PriceChild> bunnyto: what do you use #ubuntu for?
[01:33] <bunnyto> i've meet there a couple of girls
[01:35] <Hobbsee> bunnyto: do you know the user "emma"?
[01:35] <PriceChild> Hobbsee: excuse me?
[01:35] <Hobbsee> i've seen the nick somewhere before, i'm trying to figur eout where.
[01:36] <PriceChild> hmm ok
[01:37] <elky_work> Hobbsee, you're thinking of bunnyrevolution?
[01:37] <Hobbsee> elky_work: possibly, but i thought there were two bunnies in that sphere.
[01:45] <tritium> Good evening.
[01:45] <bunnyto> Hi
[01:45] <Hobbsee> @btlogin
[01:46] <PriceChild> bunnyto: Unfortunately I don't think we can make you an op. You see there are limits to the number of ops that can abuse users before publicity levels remove the joy from all of us.
[01:46] <PriceChild> bunnyto: as for your ban in 
[01:46] <PriceChild> #ubuntu, i'm afraid that's going to stay and you'll have to find these girls elsewhere.
[01:46] <Hobbsee> PriceChild: have you seen the bantracker yet?
[01:47] <PriceChild> Hobbsee: I took a cursory glance.
[01:47] <Hobbsee> oh good :)
[01:47] <PriceChild> Hobbsee: anything in particular I may have missed?
[01:47] <bunnyto> oh dammit.. ok i guess i need to switch to #redhat
[01:47] <Hobbsee> PriceChild: not really.  Just that he doesn't appear to learn, from his last ban.
[01:48] <Hobbsee> bunnyto: i doubt they support windows either...
[01:49] <bunnyto> do you know Mark Shutlelfork?
[01:50] <nalioth> bunnyto: is there anything else we can help you with?
[01:51] <bunnyto> whats his name
[01:51] <bunnyto> no thanks ,i think ill Idle here for the next year... 
[01:51]  * Hobbsee has spoken to mark shuttleworth.
[01:52] <PriceChild> And I've spoken to you... which means... I've spoken to Mark Shuttleworth!
[01:54] <Hobbsee> hehe
[01:54] <mneptok> Mark Shuttleworth has called me "Uncle Kurt"
[01:54] <PriceChild> nalioth: is that your new standard remove message?
[01:54] <mneptok> i wonder what that means
[01:55] <Hobbsee> means you'll be eaten by a grue.
[01:57] <tritium> mneptok: better than "Mistah Kurtz"
[02:00] <nalioth> PriceChild: no.
[02:01] <nalioth> i am in an exceptionally foul mood today, so must make up for it by being externally very nice
[03:52] <Pici> Flannel: Did I miss something in -ot? My connection here is a bit flaky...
[03:52] <Flannel> Pici: Not that I can see, no.  I just got here though, what/who/whatever do you think's doing stuff?
[03:53] <Pici> Flannel: dunno, Mteck was asking wastrel not to swear (he said damn).  which I don't concider swearing so I didnt do anything.  Then I reconnected and he asked me to kick him.
[03:53] <Flannel> Ah, I'll scroll up and take a gander
[03:54] <Pici> I figured something happened when I lagged out
[03:58] <Flannel> Not that I can see, no.
[05:04] <maco> Flannel: he was swearing before and pasting very long texts into the channel
[05:04] <Flannel> maco: Who?
[05:04] <maco> Flannel: dryanta, i mean
[05:04] <Flannel> I'm seeing the issue right now, but I'll check my logs, thanks.
[05:04] <maco> yeah i saw you starting to try to get him behave, and so i figured id point out what was going on about 20 minutes ago
[05:05] <Flannel> aye, thanks.
[05:26] <danroj> hola
[05:26] <danroj> operadores de ubuntu-es en el canal esta un bot que incomoda mucho con su inteligencia artificial
[06:50] <elky_work> nalioth, look, your bestest buddy
[09:17]  * Tm_T hugggles Myrtti 
[09:22]  * Myrtti huggles Tm_T 
[10:12] <Myrtti> oh dear sweet jebus the pictures of me at the conference
[10:13]  * Myrtti wants brain bleach
[10:25] <ikonia> pictures ?
[10:25] <ikonia> do share
[10:29] <Myrtti> hell no
[10:30] <ikonia> go on, be a sport
[10:30] <ikonia> it's nice to put faces to people
[10:30] <Myrtti> oh you can see lots of pictures of me in flickr
[10:30] <ikonia> oh ?
[10:30] <Myrtti> my awful lardy tummy doesn't show in them
[10:30] <ikonia> I think I've seen a picture of some of your pink stuff
[10:30] <ikonia> and a hamster
[10:31] <elkbuntu> of her what?
[10:31]  * elkbuntu torments ikonia
[10:31] <ikonia> items she owns that are pink
[10:31] <ikonia> (to clarify)
[10:31] <elkbuntu> hehe
[10:31] <Myrtti> http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=%22Miia+Ranta%22&s=rec
[10:32] <ikonia> ahhh 
[10:32] <ikonia> so now I've seen pricechild, ompaul, and you
[10:33] <ikonia> and gnomefreak I think
[10:33] <gnomefreak> huh?
[10:33] <ikonia> think I've seen a photo of you at a conference
[10:33] <gnomefreak> nope
[10:33] <ikonia> maybe not then
[10:33] <gnomefreak> i would hope not
[10:33] <gnomefreak> ;)
[10:33] <ikonia> there is another guy I've seen 
[10:33] <ikonia> at a USA get together
[10:34] <ikonia> pici maybe ?
[10:34] <Myrtti> I need brainbleach to get the picture of mneptok from my brain
[10:34]  * ikonia trys to think of usa guys
[10:34] <elkbuntu> haha
[10:34] <elkbuntu> mneptok is a yankadian
[10:34] <Myrtti> you've probably seen Mez too
[10:35] <ikonia> ahhh yes, he had purple hair at one point
[10:35] <ikonia> or wild hair of some sort
[10:35] <ikonia> I remember a photo 
[10:36] <Myrtti> http://www.flickr.com/photos/myrtti/2683571734/ <-- ewwww, smoking
[10:39] <ikonia> not how I remembered the picture of mez
[10:55] <bazhang> darklust, how may we assist you
[11:00] <bazhang> !idle | darklust 
[11:01] <Hobbsee> iirc that's a forward
[11:01] <bazhang> aha
[11:01] <bazhang> @login
[11:02] <bazhang> @btlogin
[11:04] <Myrtti> @btlogin
[11:44] <ubot3`> In ubot3`, knocternal said: what is irc
[11:44] <ubot3`> In ubot3`, knocternal said: what is a bot?
[12:06] <Myrtti> oh god, I want a Bounty bar
[12:06] <ikonia> I want a kitkat
[12:06] <ikonia> or a mint aero
[12:06] <ikonia> or a chocoloate orange
[12:06]  * Dave2 wantrs bkreakfast
[12:06] <Dave2> ...wants, breakfast.
[12:06] <Tm_T> Dave2: you can do it, son, you can!
[12:14] <elkbuntu> jaffas turned me off chocolate orange stuff
[12:15] <ikonia> elkbuntu: wrong answer
[12:15] <ikonia> chocolate orange is one of the greatest gifts that can be given
[12:15]  * ikonia prays to terry's for bigger versions
[12:16] <elkbuntu> ikonia, jaffas are cheap and nasty tasting. kind of ruins the concept
[12:17] <ikonia> elkbuntu: are they "official" mcvitties jaffas or a diffent brand
[12:18] <elkbuntu> are you not an editor?
[12:18] <ikonia> I think so 
[12:18] <ikonia> I was 
[12:18] <ikonia> got my ubottu notes somewhere
[12:19] <elkbuntu> ikonia, i've got no clue what brand i ate 20 years ago
[12:19] <ikonia> wow, that long
[12:20] <ikonia> if it wasn't mcvities, I can understand how it could put you off
[12:20] <ikonia> there is only one jaffa
[12:20] <Myrtti> there's only one jaffa
[12:20] <Myrtti> and it's made in Finland.
[12:20] <ikonia> Myrtti: I'm sorry but you are wrong
[12:20] <Myrtti> *snif*
[12:21] <ikonia> I apologise if this may change the way you look on things, but mcvities are the jaffa makers
[12:22] <ikonia> http://www.unitedbiscuits.com/80256C1A0047922E/vWeb/pcTSTT5EPGEB
[12:22] <ikonia> so you may educate yourself in the way of biscuit confectionary
[12:27] <Myrtti> a nasty webpage that fails to load decently
[12:28]  * Myrtti doesn't bother
[12:28] <ikonia> oh, worked ok here, how dissapointing
[12:29] <ikonia> elkbuntu: as an aussie, are you aware of a famous majigian called "Ravine" (real name Peter Ravine)
[12:30] <elkbuntu> the name is vaguely familiar
[12:33] <ikonia> ok
[12:33] <ikonia> ta
[12:44] <Myrtti> FLIP FLOP SAYS THE NET
[13:03] <Tm_T> something exploded
[13:07] <Myrtti> so it seems
[13:27] <Myrtti> 1000€ come to mama!
[13:32] <Tm_T> wut?
[13:32] <Tm_T> payday?
[13:32] <Myrtti> no...
[13:32] <Myrtti> I think I just recruited mord to work for Nomovok :-D
[13:32] <Tm_T> awww
[13:32] <ikonia> Myrtti mord, isn't he the big quiet guy of startrek deep sapce 9?
[13:32] <Tm_T> ikonia: mordicus
[13:32] <ikonia> oh
[13:33] <Tm_T> Myrtti: 1532.35 <@Tm_T> mord: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
[13:33] <ikonia> so not mord
[13:33] <Myrtti> Tm_T: sshhhh
[13:33] <Tm_T> ikonia: could be that too
[13:33] <Tm_T> Myrtti: I didn't say more!
[13:33] <ikonia> http://img19.photobucket.com/albums/v56/ottoautopilot/mornsmall.jpg
[13:34] <ikonia> it's morn, not mord
[13:34] <ikonia> doh
[13:47] <Tm_T> I'll get that one
[13:47] <elkbuntu> i was already dealing with it
[13:47] <Tm_T> elkbuntu: ah then please do
[13:48] <Tm_T> U97418: hi how can we help you?
[13:48] <elkbuntu> he's going around various channels saying something chinese, then giving up and leaving
[13:49] <Tm_T> ok
[13:49] <ikonia> thats not like magnetron
[13:49] <Tm_T> ikonia: we were talking about this U23424563452452 fellow
[13:50] <ikonia> ooh
[13:50] <ikonia> I meant magnetron and teh natzi stuff
[13:50] <Tm_T> ikonia: ah
[13:51] <Tm_T> nice to have "nazi" in hilight
[13:51] <elkbuntu> yeah
[13:51] <ikonia> magnetron is normally rally solid though, 
[13:51] <ikonia> odd odd odd
[13:52] <elkbuntu> everyone slips up occasionally
[13:53] <Tm_T> except me, but hey, I'm semigod
[13:53] <ikonia> of course
[13:53] <Tm_T> ikonia: good that you agree with me
[13:53] <ikonia> how could I not
[13:56] <Myrtti> nalioth: pingpong
[14:01] <nalioth> Myrtti: hi
[14:02] <Myrtti> we seem to be missing ubot5 from -fi
[14:03] <nalioth> sounds like you need to poke the bots owner  :)  ( did you want ubot3 in the mean time ? )
[14:03] <Myrtti> oh
[14:03] <Myrtti> which one of them was yours again?
[14:03] <Myrtti> :-D
[14:03] <Myrtti> sorry, confused
[14:03] <nalioth> i operate ubot3
[14:04] <Myrtti> well, we need ubot^n+1
[14:05] <nalioth> all these splits have played bloody hell with the bots, it seems
[14:05] <Tm_T> indeedio
[14:05] <ikonia> make the splits stop
[14:06] <Tm_T> nalioth: also ubot3 is having some outdated factoids
[14:08] <nalioth> Tm_T: it updates hourly from the main db :(
[14:09] <Tm_T> nalioth: but...
[14:09] <Tm_T> ubot3: kde4
[14:09] <ubot3> KDE 4.1.1 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. Packages can be found at  http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.1.1 - Support in #kubuntu-kde4
[14:09] <Tm_T> ubottu: kde4
[14:09] <Tm_T> see?
[14:09] <Myrtti> !-kde4
[14:10] <Myrtti> ubot3: !-kde4
[14:10] <ubot3> kde4 aliases: kde 4, kde4help, kde4support - added by apokryphos on 2006-06-18 20:48:00
[14:10] <Myrtti> :-/
[14:12] <Myrtti> funky
[14:12] <Myrtti> it even comes from Finland ;-)
[14:12] <elkbuntu> backup might be needed in -ot soon
[14:13] <nalioth> Tm_T: i'll look into ubot3s guts in a minute
[14:16] <Tm_T> nalioth: np
[14:16] <Tm_T> elkbuntu: me cannot
[14:17] <nalioth> i don't understand why the factoids aren't up to date (unless the kde4 one has been updated in the past hour)
[14:19] <Tm_T> nalioth: it hasn't
[14:19] <Tm_T> nalioth: it's weeks old
[14:19] <nalioth> Tm_T: what time is there?
[14:19] <Tm_T> 1619.47
[14:20] <nalioth> the timestamp on the ubuntu.db is 15:56 on this day
[14:20] <Tm_T> cannot be
[14:20] <elkbuntu> ikonia, for added lols, the (non-magnetron) moron who tried to be funny by recycling seinfeld went on to attack me for defending that he did not invoke godwin
[14:21] <ikonia> moron
[14:21] <Tm_T> nalioth: 1609.49 < ubottu> kde4 aliases: kde 4, kde4help, kde4support - added by apokryphos on 2006-06-18 20:48:00 - last edited by Tm_T on 2008-10-06 05:23:55
[14:21] <Tm_T> nalioth: so something isn't right here
[14:22] <nalioth> yeah, i'm fixing to attempt a fix
[14:22] <nalioth> it wasn't identified, either
[14:22] <Tm_T> aww
[14:25] <nalioth> Tm_T: give it a few minutes to sync and then give it a poke
[14:25] <Tm_T> nalioth: will do, thanks
[14:26] <nalioth> i don't think these supybots have the same uptime expectations as a linux server  :|
[14:31] <Tm_T> nalioth: sync
[14:39] <nalioth> sync?
[14:40] <ikonia> sync; sync
[14:40] <Tm_T> nalioth: means, it's in sync, uptodate
[14:40] <Tm_T> nalioth: danke sehr
[14:50] <jussi01> someone hilight me? please...
[14:50] <Tm_T> jussi01: hilight
[14:50] <jussi01> perfect. thanks
[14:51] <Tm_T> oh, sorry
[14:51] <Myrtti> facebook just made me lol
[14:51] <Myrtti> anyway
[14:51] <Tm_T> *jussi01*
[14:51] <Myrtti> hilight jussi01 
[14:51] <Tm_T> there you go, son
[14:51]  * jussi01 has a new quad core :D
[14:51] <Myrtti> jussi01: OH SHUTUP
[14:51] <ikonia> jussi01: very nice
[14:51] <Myrtti> jussi01: oh
[14:51] <Myrtti> right
[14:51] <Myrtti> then you can use...
[14:51] <Tm_T> jussi01: yeah, wanna see how I try to build your jaiku plasmoid?
[14:51]  * Myrtti calculates
[14:52] <ikonia> ZarroBoogs: ?????????
[14:52] <Tm_T> zerobugs
[14:52] <Myrtti> jussi01: then you can use 300% of your CPU to using skype
[14:52] <Tm_T> Myrtti: =)
[14:52] <Myrtti> like I used 150% using skype yesterday
[14:52] <Myrtti> :-D
[14:52]  * Pici waves
[14:53] <Tm_T> well...
[14:53] <ikonia> I use two quad core boxes to do my video encoding, it's amazing how much the step up to 4 cores makes compared fo dual core for encoding, 
[14:53] <ikonia> much more than I'd hoped for
[14:53] <Tm_T> I can spend hald od my ram just for one compilation process
[14:53] <Tm_T> s/hald/half/
[14:54] <Pici> ikonia: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=noooooooo
[14:54] <ikonia> ah
[15:43] <Pici> @login
[16:23] <jussi01> Hey everyone, genii is going to be an op in #kubuntu :) He is a konversation user, so all you konvi users plase give him your tips and tricks ... ie. aliases/scripts etc. 
[16:24] <genii> Hello all
[16:24] <bazhang> hi!
[16:24] <Pici> Hi!
[16:24] <Seeker`> best tip for a konvi user is to use irssi
[16:24] <Seeker`> hi genii :)
[16:24] <Pici> Seeker`: +1
[16:24]  * bazhang gives genii a big mug  of coffee
[16:26]  * Myrtti prods genii to #freenode to ask for an unaffiliated cloak
[16:26] <genii> Yay, coffee!
[16:26] <Pici> genii: I believe LjL uses konversation, maybe he can help you with some aliases/plugins.
[16:27] <genii> Pici: OK thanks for the tip, I'll bug him when next I see him
[16:27] <Myrtti> if not, then I think the ones that we use with irssi might be applicable, though I don't know
[16:27] <jussi01> Myrtti: already on it :D
[16:28] <genii> Hmm. If I have two names which have valid logins currently but one is a master name, is this the cloaking thing?
[16:28] <jussi01> nope
[16:29] <Pici> genii: A cloak is the thing that hides your hostname
[16:29] <nalioth> genii: best 'tip and trick' to give you is "use irssi"
[16:29] <genii> Ah just alternate nick then 
[16:30] <Pici> genii: See the hostname difference between my whois and yours. An unaffiliated hostname would be unaffiliated/genii
[16:30] <Seeker`> a cloak changes user@208.124... to user@ubuntu/member/genii if you are a member or user@unaffiliated/genii
[16:32] <genii> Darn now I'll have to learn irssi
[16:32] <Pici> genii: Its something provided by Freenode, not client dependent.
[16:33] <Seeker`> genii: The two are unrelated, it just happens to be the case that irssi is the best client evar! :P
[16:33] <jussi01> meh!
[16:33] <Pici> mwah!
[16:33] <jussi01> quassel ftw!!
[16:33] <jussi01> :D
[16:34] <genii> Hmm
[16:35] <genii> Sorry for lag, work keeps needing me here so running back and forth from the computer....
[16:35] <Pici> genii: You can ask for a cloak in #freenode :)
[16:35] <Seeker`> genii: not a problem
[16:37] <genii> They apparently set my cloak now. [11:36] [Notice] -leguin.freenode.net- NickServ set your hostname to "unaffiliated/genii"
[16:37] <Myrtti> genii: I think most (all?) of us have been there
[16:37] <Myrtti> genii: and so you have
[16:38] <genii> So whenever I login now cloak takes auto effect, or do I have to do some nickserv/chanserv commands?
[16:39] <Myrtti> when you login
[16:39] <Pici> Nope, just as long as you identify.
[16:39] <genii> OK
[16:39] <jussi01> autoidentifying is a "good idea" TM
[16:39] <Pici> On freenode, you can put your account password in the server password field so you don't need to issue commands after you connect.
[16:43] <stdin> genii: have you joined the ubuntu-irc team on launchpad yet?
[16:44] <jussi01> stdin: dont think he can yet, can he? 
[16:44] <Myrtti> sure he can
[16:44] <stdin> jussi01: he can attempt to, then be approved by an admin (IRCC member)
[16:47] <genii> stdin: I'm apparently not belonging to any groups there
[16:48] <stdin> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-irc/+join
[16:49] <stdin> assuming you have a LP account, which you should have ;)
[16:49] <genii> Yes I do
[16:50] <genii> OK, pending approval there now
[16:55] <stdin> aww, no IRC nicks on your user page. now I have to remember how to add someone to the bot
[16:56] <jussi01> or genii could just add some there...
[16:57] <genii> stdin: Sorry to make you work there....
[16:57] <stdin> I need to look at the IRCLogin plugin again, not sure which one ubottu is running now
[16:58] <jussi01> genii: good idea to have your IRC nicks on your LP page ;)
[16:59] <jussi01> earlier today... http://lifematta.com/jussi01/event/14193/ 
[16:59] <jussi01> :D
[16:59] <stdin> show off
[17:00] <jussi01> :D
[17:01] <stdin> you can't be that excited, it's not on your blog :p
[17:02] <jussi01> stdin: not had time yet...
[17:02] <jussi01> been too busy playing... D:
[17:05] <stdin> apparently there is no way to register someone else with the bot :|
[17:06] <genii> stdin: Added genii to my irc names
[17:06]  * stdin sometimes feels like he should rewrite supybot and release better-than-supybot into the world
[17:07] <stdin> @updateusers
[17:08] <genii> Does he say when finished? Just curious
[17:08] <stdin> yeah, but you're not approved yet apparently :p oh well, at least I'll know it doesn't explode
[17:09] <stdin> !ping
[17:09] <stdin> good, I didn't break it again
[17:11] <jussi01> hehe
[17:13] <stdin> now, where's a council member when you need them?
[17:15] <pleia2> welcome genii :)
[17:15] <genii> pleia2: Hello
[17:15] <genii> stdin: Council member I presume? ;)
[17:15] <pleia2> nah
[17:16] <genii> Ah.
[17:16] <stdin> genii: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-irc-council/+members :)
[17:16]  * genii puts on a pot of coffee for the channel
[17:27] <jussi01> stdin: any idea who james vergal is?
[17:28] <stdin> jussi01: never heard of them, why?
[17:28] <jussi01> stdin: look at your email... I decined though.. 
[17:30] <stdin> jussi01: that's the second person to do that
[17:30] <jussi01> stdin: yeah, I modeled my answer on yours :d
[17:31] <jussi01> anyway, Im about to leave on a trip, so wont be in for a while. See you! (and look after genii ) :D
[17:32] <genii> jussi01: Safe travels!
[17:32] <stdin> see you later \o
[17:34] <jussi01> bye!
[18:26] <PriceChild> stdin: what do you need?
[19:18] <stdin> PriceChild: genii is a new kubuntu op, can you approve membership to ubuntu-irc?
[19:18] <stdin> LP username: mystic-scientist
[19:19] <Mez> hmm, thought channel-specific ops weret in that?
[19:21] <stdin> Mez: LoCo ops aren't, core-channel ops are
[19:24] <LjL> stdin, well not necessarily, we've had many ops there were only added to the team after a while
[19:24] <PriceChild> stdin: I don't think he meets requirements for that group yet, will ask others on the council.
[19:25] <PriceChild> stdin: is acceptance to that group required for bantracker etc. ? I've forgotten since it was last explained to me :$
[19:26] <LjL> i think it's not now...
[19:27] <stdin> PriceChild: it's not absolutely required, but it does make my life easier ;)
[19:28]  * genii sips his coffee and contemplates requirements
[19:28] <stdin> fwiw, I was a member of ubuntu-irc when I became a #k op and before I became a k/ubuntu member
[19:28] <Tm_T> heh
[19:28] <LjL> stdin: yeah that's absolutely possible
[19:29] <LjL> i'm going for dinner. for what i'm concerned i'd wait a little before adding new ops to the team, but if it makes your life much easier with the BT, then no big deal doing i suppose
[19:31] <stdin> the way I see it is, he's now an op in #k, he's signed the CoC and is known and trusted in many ubuntu channels. but if the council decided to wait a while before approving then I have no problem :)
[19:32] <stdin> and it may not be a bad idea to make it policy to wait a while now that I'm thinking about it more
[19:33] <genii> Usually prerequisite to be a member ?
[19:34] <stdin> I don't think so, no
[19:37] <Myrtti> bazhang isn't
[19:37] <Myrtti> I wasn't
[19:37] <Myrtti> Pici wasn't
[19:37] <stdin> Seeker` still isn't ;)
[19:38]  * Myrtti nods
[19:46] <PriceChild> i wasn't either
[19:46] <Pici> I did not have access to the bantracker until I was an op for a while.
[19:47] <Myrtti> Pici: that was only because of delay
[19:47] <Myrtti> if you're an op, you need to comment and check your bans.
[19:47] <PriceChild> mmhm
[19:47] <Myrtti> there's no sane way of doing that without the bt
[19:56] <genii> Whats the usual practice on ban checking?
[19:56] <Mez> @bancheck genii
[19:56] <Mez> @login
[19:56] <Mez> @bancheck genii
[19:56] <Myrtti> tsk.
[19:56] <genii> Hmm
[19:57] <Mez> @lart Mez
[19:57] <Myrtti> @bansearch Fujisan #ubuntu
[19:58] <Myrtti> @bansearch *!*@unaffiliated/exteris #ubuntu-offtopic
[19:58] <genii> Ah. 
[19:58] <Myrtti> or just simply login to the bot with @login and login to the bantracker with @btlogin
[19:59] <Myrtti> to latter the bot replies with tossing you a url in PM
[19:59] <Myrtti> which I still prefer
[19:59] <genii> So ompaul had no comment when did that one?
[19:59] <Myrtti> @btlogin
[20:00] <Myrtti> no
[20:00] <Myrtti> then again
[20:00] <Myrtti> @bansearch slamFIST
[20:01] <Myrtti> he has comments
[20:01] <PriceChild> stdin: could you get genii bantracker access please.
[20:02]  * Pici thinks that bansearch when done in a channel should search all channels.
[20:02] <Myrtti> I think it shouldn't be used at all
[20:03] <Myrtti> as this channel is logged
[20:03] <Myrtti> or something
[20:03] <Myrtti> I don't know
[20:03] <PriceChild> does this function display comments?
[20:03] <stdin> Myrtti: what more information can it give than someone who does /mode =b #ubuntu ?
[20:03] <Myrtti> I HAZ A HEADACHE
[20:03] <PriceChild> bans are logged in channel logs anyway
[20:03] <Myrtti> nönönönönöönönönönö
[20:03] <Myrtti> headache
[20:03] <Myrtti> shhhh
[20:04] <Myrtti> sssssshhh
[20:04] <stdin> PriceChild: @comment can show/set comments
[20:09]  * genii hands Myrtti some Advil
[20:13] <stdin> @config supybot.defaultIgnore False
[20:14] <stdin> genii: please "/msg ubottu register genii <some password>" any password will do as we use @login
[20:16] <genii> "The operation succeeded"
[20:16] <stdin> @config supybot.defaultIgnore True
[20:16] <Myrtti> @whoami
[20:17] <genii> @whoami
[20:17] <stdin> @Admin capability add genii bantracker
[20:17] <stdin> genii: try @btlogin
[20:18] <stdin> and meet the Bantracker :)
[20:18] <genii> @btlogin
[20:20] <genii> We are supposed to clean out our bans every week/month/other ?
[20:21] <Myrtti> good point, I've got crud on #ubuntu
[20:38] <LjL> genii, you're supposed to use your good judgement
[20:38] <genii> LjL: OK. I guess much depends on how much banning you do
[20:39] <Pici> genii: Don't hesitate to ask if you aren't sure about something :)
[20:40] <LjL> genii: i do tend to remove bans that are more than a month old, unless i remember it was something real bad. using the bantracker wisely imho is more important than that though, comment on bans if it isn't all painfully clear from the logs
[20:40] <LjL> it saves a lot of time when later checking out whether someone was the one who did this or that, etc
[20:45] <nalioth> genii: you should check your bans no more than every 24h
[20:45] <nalioth> genii: some shouldn't last that long
[20:46] <genii> OK
[20:47] <genii> When /remove is used they can come back right away, yes?
[20:47] <LjL> yeah
[20:47] <genii> OK
[20:48] <Pici>  /remove is like /kick, only it usually doesn't trigger auto-rejoin scripts. Plus its less distracting to other users since it looks like a quit message.
[20:48] <LjL> a part message
[20:50] <genii> I'm just studying https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcTeam/OperatorGuidelines
[20:51] <nalioth> you would usually /remove someone and talk to them im PM
[20:51] <LjL> yeah those don't tell you much about the actual technicalities though
[20:51] <genii> Luckily I have this channel to come and bug about the technicalities ;)
[20:53] <LjL> so we can argue about them for an hour while you're gone doing something else
[21:01]  * Seeker` will get round to being a member eventually
[23:14] <LjL> !dvorak
[23:14] <LjL> i find this gratuitous without an ubuntu guide linked, which i can find, so i'd rather just alias it to !layout
[23:28] <Myrtti> !idle | Darklust 
[23:28]  * Myrtti shrugs
[23:39] <Darklust> Umm.
[23:39] <nalioth> Darklust: can we help you?
[23:39] <Darklust> I thought I was in #ubuntu O.o
[23:39] <Darklust> Guess not.
[23:40] <Darklust> My ban lasts more then a day?
[23:40] <nalioth> if there is nothing we can do for you, please see the /topic
[23:49] <Myrtti> Darklust: so
[23:52] <Myrtti> no, you're not on #ubuntu
[23:52] <Myrtti> no, the ban hasn't yet been lifted
[23:52] <Myrtti> no, it will not be lifted unless you can convince me that you will not repeat doing that again
[23:53] <Myrtti> no, it will not be lifted unless you show some kind of understanding why it's not a good idea to suggest recursive removal magic
[23:54] <Myrtti> Darklust: so, do you have anything to say?