[00:06] <NCommander> ScottK, ping
[00:22] <mathiaz> kirkland: do you have a libvirt daemon running?
[00:22] <mathiaz> kirkland: or you just use a plain kvm?
[00:23] <kirkland> mathiaz: both
[00:23] <kirkland> root      6136     1  0 Oct13 ?        00:00:00 /usr/sbin/libvirtd -d
[00:23] <kirkland> nobody    6213  6136  0 Oct13 ?        00:00:00 dnsmasq --keep-in-foreground --strict-order --bind-interfaces --pid-file  --conf-file  --listen-address 192.168.122.1 --except-interface lo --dhcp-leasefile=/var/lib/libvirt/dhcp-default.leases --dhcp-range 192.168.122.2,192.168.122.254
[00:23] <mathiaz> kirkland: ok - so with libvirt you need to update the configuration of the guest
[00:24] <kirkland> mathiaz: k, how so?
[00:24] <mathiaz> kirkland: http://paste.ubuntu.com/57644/
[00:24] <mathiaz> kirkland: ^^ this is the configuration of a running guest
[00:24] <kirkland> mathiaz: where does this go?
[00:25] <mathiaz> kirkland: the important part is when you define the interface
[00:25] <mathiaz> kirkland: <model type='virtio'/>
[00:25] <mathiaz> kirkland: try to use the virsh command
[00:25] <mathiaz> kirkland: virsh dumpxml guest-vm-name
[00:25] <mathiaz> kirkland: or start with
[00:25] <mathiaz> kirkland: virsh list
[00:25] <mathiaz> kirkland: to get the list of running guest.
[00:26] <mathiaz> kirkland: then dump the xml configuration to a local file
[00:26] <mathiaz> kirkland: virsh dumpxml guest-name > libvirt.xml
[00:26] <mathiaz> kirkland: edit libvirt.xml to set the network interface model to virtio
[00:26] <mathiaz> kirkland: and reload the configuration with
[00:26] <kirkland> mathiaz: virsh list shows nothing
[00:26] <kirkland> mathiaz: but i have two kvm's running from the command line, with kvm .....
[00:26] <mathiaz> kirkland: virsh define guest-vm-name
[00:27] <mathiaz> kirkland: hm - try: virsh list --all
[00:27] <mathiaz> kirkland: if nothing is listed, then you don't have any vm guest defined in libvirt
[00:27] <kirkland> mathiaz: okay, now i see a few ***ancient*** vm's i created in virt-manager, long ago
[00:27] <mathiaz> kirkland: I don't think that libvirtd knows about the kvm machines started from the command line
[00:27] <kirkland> mathiaz: should i do this testing through virt-manager?
[00:28] <mathiaz> kirkland: you could - I tend to use virsh
[00:28] <mathiaz> kirkland: virsh is just a command line/shell front-end to libvirtd while virt-manager is the GUI front-end to libvirtd
[00:29] <mathiaz> kirkland: I don't know if you can set a virtio network interface with virt-manager
[00:29] <kirkland> mathiaz: okay, fair enough
[00:29] <kirkland> mathiaz: okay, so i have a vm in virsh that I can overwrite, or replace the disk or whatever
[00:30] <mathiaz> kirkland: ok - so dump the xml configuration to a local file
[00:30] <mathiaz> kirkland: virsh dumpxml vm-name > new_vm.xml
[00:30] <kirkland> mathiaz: http://paste.ubuntu.com/57647/
[00:31] <mathiaz> kirkland: ok - edit the xml file to add "<model type='virtio'/>
[00:32] <mathiaz> kirkland: to the network interface section
[00:32] <mathiaz> kirkland: below source network='default'/>
[00:32] <Baryon> My ubuntu 7.10 server has ceassed allowing XWin (via cygwin) to connect.  XWin can connect to other Linux X-Windows server.
[00:33] <kirkland> mathiaz: done
[00:33] <mathiaz> kirkland: all right - now reload the configuration with
[00:33] <mathiaz> kirkland: virsh define new_vm.xml
[00:33] <Baryon> more ... so not firewall issue, unless a firewall has grown in Ubuntu?
[00:33] <kirkland> mathiaz: done
[00:34] <mathiaz> kirkland: now you can start the vm with:
[00:34] <mathiaz> kirkland: virsh start vm-name
[00:34] <Baryon> more ... this all worked last month, and then ceased (maybe an ugrade introduced new security?)
[00:34] <kirkland> mathiaz: okay.
[00:34] <kirkland> mathiaz: and to connect to it?
[00:34] <Baryon> more.. Has anyone had a similar experience, or a suggested solution?  (over)
[00:35] <mathiaz> kirkland: if you can get the vncdiplay with the vncdipslay command
[00:35] <mathiaz> kirkland: virsh vncdisplay vm-name
[00:36] <kirkland> mathiaz: nope
[00:36] <kirkland> mathiaz: can i just get a console?
[00:36] <mathiaz> kirkland: try ttyconsole then
[00:36] <mathiaz> kirkland: virsh ttyconsole vm-name
[00:37] <kirkland> mathiaz: didn't work either
[00:37] <mathiaz> kirkland: try virsh dumpxml vmname
[00:37] <mathiaz> kirkland: there should be the vnc port there
[00:37] <kirkland> mathiaz: hang on
[00:38] <kirkland> mathiaz: kernel panic'd
[00:38] <kirkland> mathiaz: not enough memory
[00:38] <kirkland> mathiaz: it's booting now
[00:38] <mathiaz> kirkland: on the host or on the guest?
[00:38] <kirkland> mathiaz: i connected to it through virt-manager
[00:38] <kirkland> mathiaz: guest
[00:39] <mathiaz> kirkland: ok - you can use virt-manager to connect to it also - it uses the vnc display IIRC
[00:39] <kirkland> mathiaz: okay network is working
[00:39] <kirkland> mathiaz: how can i verify that i'm virtio-networking?
[00:40] <kirkland> mathiaz: lsmod | grep virt shows: virtio_net, virtio_pci, virtio_ring, virtio
[00:42] <mathiaz> kirkland: on the host try to get the kvm command line
[00:42] <mathiaz> kirkland: the list of modules seems correct too
[00:42] <kirkland> mathiaz: ?
[00:42] <kirkland> mathiaz: kvm command line?
[00:43] <mathiaz> kirkland: on the host, libvirtd starts kvm to run your guest
[00:43] <mathiaz> kirkland: so if you grep the kvm processes you'll see the one that runs your virtio guest
[00:43] <kirkland> mathiaz: ah, looking good
[00:43] <mathiaz> kirkland: it should show that the network interface is started with a virtio driver
[00:43] <kirkland> /usr/bin/kvm -S -M pc -m 512 -smp 1 -name intrepid -monitor pty -no-acpi -boot c -drive file=/local/virt/intrepid-virtio.img,if=ide,index=0,boot=on -net nic,macaddr=00:16:3e:32:80:31,vlan=0,model=virtio -net tap,fd=11,script=,vlan=0,ifname=vnet1 -serial none -parallel none -usb -vnc 127.0.0.1:
[00:44] <mathiaz> kirkland: right - so I think it all looks good
[00:44] <mathiaz> kirkland: you've got a guest running with a virtio network device.
[00:44] <kirkland> mathiaz: excellent, i think this one is put to bed ;-)
[00:45] <kirkland> mathiaz: and TheMuso has committed the remaining fix for virtio disks
[00:45] <kirkland> mathiaz: now, I just need to go through the dozen or so KVM CVE's that kees threw at me :-)
[00:45] <mathiaz> kirkland: right - to be correct the virtio network bug was in the installer
[00:45] <mathiaz> kirkland: the installer wasn't able to load the virtio network modules
[00:46] <kirkland> mathiaz: right
[00:46] <kirkland> mathiaz:  i just mean that you've verified hardy host, me intrepid host now
[00:46] <mathiaz> kirkland: have you booted an install?
[00:47] <kirkland> hrm, no
[00:47] <kees> kirkland: well, many of those aren't kvm
[00:47] <kirkland> mathiaz: ah, i see what you mean
[00:47] <kirkland> kees: i know, i was just lighting you up :-)
[00:47] <kees> haha
[00:48] <mathiaz> kirkland: I've done a couple of test install today and they all completed correctly (all my guests are setup to use virtio networking by default)
[00:48] <mathiaz> kirkland: so I'm confident the installer work is working correctly.
[00:53] <kirkland> mathiaz: sounds good
[00:54] <kirkland> mathiaz: i need to respond to a couple of ecryptfs and raid bugs that i've neglected while focusing on virtio over the last few days
[00:54] <kirkland> mathiaz: btw ...  i moved my blog
[00:54] <kirkland> mathiaz: we'll need to update the ubuntu-server pull
[00:54] <kirkland> mathiaz: new location is at blog.dustinkirkland.com
[00:54] <kirkland> mathiaz: i imported all of my old articles from wordpress
[00:55] <kirkland> mathiaz: planet.ubuntu.com is currently broken
[00:55] <mathiaz> kirkland: noticed that. I'll update the feed on ubuntuserver.
[00:59] <mathiaz> kirkland: is there a feed for the Ubuntu-Server label?
[01:00] <mathiaz> kirkland: I don't see an obvious link to just pull post labeled with Ubuntu-Server
[01:00] <kirkland> mathiaz: one sec
[01:01] <kirkland> mathiaz: http://blog.dustinkirkland.com/feeds/posts/default/-/ubuntu-server
[01:05] <mathiaz> kirkland: awesome - thanks.
[01:05] <mathiaz> kirkland: note that the url is case sensitive
[01:06] <Baryon> XDMCP/GDM: problem connecting to Ubunut 7.10 w/ XWin under cygwin.  It worked last week. Won't work this week! Has latest upgrade added some firwall security? Any ideas on where to lok for a solution?
[01:06] <mathiaz> kirkland: http://blog.dustinkirkland.com/feeds/posts/default/-/Ubuntu-Server
[01:06] <mathiaz> kirkland: ^^ that works
[01:07] <mathiaz> Baryon: I'm not sure that here is the best place to ask for X related questions.
[01:07] <mathiaz> Baryon: you may wanna try #ubuntu instead.
[01:08] <Baryon> mathiaz: I thought that it may be a server security issue - e.g blocked port.
[01:09] <Baryon> mathiaz: But I will try #ubuntu. Thanks.
[01:11] <mathiaz> Baryon: an update in a stable release won't introduce such a new feature.
[01:12] <Baryon> mathiaz: Then I am at a loss, and don't know how I broke XDMCP!
[01:18] <Baryon> mathiaz: If you are right, then that leaves but one other possibility.  Thanks!
[01:48] <Baryon> XDMCP or GDM or port problem.  It worked last week. Cannot login to Ubuntu Server 7.10 via thin client (XWin under cygwin on XP64). I don't know what changed. Any ideas?
[02:09] <mathiaz> zul: is the -virtual kernel working in a xen environment?
[03:47] <uvirtbot`> New bug: #283534 in openssh (main) "Segmentation Fault with SSH" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/283534
[03:59] <owh> Hiya, never done this, so I thought I'd ask before I break some stuff seriously. Have a ubuntu server in production that is running samba without domain logons. All users are connected as guests. I want to migrate to it being a domain server, but I don't want to break everything immediately...
[04:00] <owh> I want to turn domain logons on, but before I do, will this kill all the clients, require accounts or any such major impact, or can I just turn it on and the clients will be able to connect as they have as a guest?
[04:01]  * owh is slowly bringing this client into the 21st century :)
[04:03] <owh> Where might I locate a process that will allow me to migrate from this essentially peer-to-peer environment into one where the server is a pdc?
[04:50] <maxwave3> h
[05:05] <ScottK> NCommander: Pong
[05:06] <NCommander> ScottK, I need your 2 cents on a backport which is somewhat unique
[05:06] <ScottK> OK
[05:07] <NCommander> ScottK, https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/hardy-backports/+bug/283468
[05:07] <uvirtbot`> Launchpad bug 283468 in hardy-backports "[hardy] kdesvn not compatible with svn 1.5 - please backport (import) kdesvn from debian unstable to hardy" [High,Incomplete]
[05:07] <ScottK> I'm all for it.
[05:07] <NCommander> Ok, I confirmed it build, and installs
[05:08] <ScottK> How's it work with svn 1.5?
[05:08] <NCommander> I haven't confirmed the original but I"m about to test to make sure it works with the version from SVN
[05:08] <NCommander> I am testing that now ;_)
[05:09] <NCommander> ScottK, I'm suprised you said yes, I was expecting a no since it requires backporting a sid package
[05:10] <ScottK> NCommander: It's not really different than sticking KDE3.5.10 in hardy-backports when we have no KDE3 in Intrepid.
[05:10] <ScottK> I think KDE3 in Intrepid is a special case.
[05:11] <ScottK> This is part of that because if we hadn't gone to KDE4 in Inrepid, then you'd be able to backport from there.
[05:11] <NCommander> Well, we can't fix the problem in intrepid since thats frozen, and kdesvn won't qualify for a FFe. and it will be fixed in Jaunty via an import from Debian, I don't see the huge issue
[05:12] <ScottK> In Intrepid we'd want the KDE4 version anyway.
[05:12] <ScottK> Which there is one.
[05:12] <NCommander> Ah
[05:12] <NCommander> That makes sense
[05:13] <NCommander> This bug must also exist in intrepid then ...
[05:13] <ScottK> Unless the KDE4 version is an updated one.
[05:13] <ScottK> I know it's packaged, but not if it works with 1.5
[05:14] <NCommander> It's the same version
[05:14] <NCommander> (in both intrepid and hardy)
[05:14] <ScottK> The KDE4 one is kdesvn-kde4
[05:15] <ScottK> Dunno why we didn't transition it.
[05:15] <NCommander> Probably got overlooked
[05:15] <ScottK> So it's a bug in Intrepid.
[05:15] <ScottK> Yeah.
[05:15] <NCommander> Probably should be fixed now
[05:15] <NCommander> kdesvn just crashes for me
[05:16] <ScottK> Lemme see if I can find someone to sponsor it for you.
[05:18] <ScottK> NCommander: There you go (#kubunut-devel)
[05:18] <ScottK> For some better spelling of kubuntu
[05:18] <NCommander> lol
[05:18] <ajmitch> seems accurate to me
[05:18] <NCommander> ScottK, so when are we going to create intrepid-backports?
[05:19] <ScottK> NCommander: That's up to jdong, but it can be created as soon as the release happens.
[05:20] <NCommander> Ah
[05:21] <NCommander> ScottK, I'm confirming both the bug, and that backporting kdesvn fixes it
[05:22] <ScottK> NCommander: OK.  See nixternal about fixing Intrepid and then we'll deal with the backport.
[05:22] <NCommander> ScottK, the package is in the PPA, but I'm unsure I got the versioning right (I assume its normal, but this might be a special case since its a backport from sid vs intrepid/jaunty)
[05:24] <ScottK> NCommander: What version are you pulling in?  0.14.6-1 or 1.0.4-2?
[05:32] <NCommander> 1.0.4-2 from Debian sid
[05:32] <NCommander> Which works
[05:41] <ScottK> OK.
[05:41] <ScottK> That's a KDE3 version still.
[05:41] <ScottK> The KDE4 version is some higher number.
[05:50] <NCommander> ah
[06:39] <gane> is there any tool to tset the squid performance
[07:10] <Scix> Is there a large resource loss installing ubuntu-desktop on top of a ubuntu-server?
[07:11] <Scix> talking about the ubuntu-desktop package... CLI is to time assuming...
[07:12] <lukehasnoname> install xfce
[07:12] <lukehasnoname> if you're going to use a gui
[07:12] <lukehasnoname> I mean, most of the tools you use on a server are console based anyway
[07:13] <Scix> The main reason i want a gui is to run tools like gbind or QG (GQ?)
[07:19] <gane> is there any tool to tset the squid performance
[07:20] <_ruben> Scix: best way is to just install the xlibs and run an X server on your desktop .. then use ssh -X to tunnel your X traffic
[07:22] <Scix> xlibs and that's it? Sounds realy easy :)
[07:23] <_ruben> and any other dependencies you might need for gbind .. shouldnt require a full blown X install
[07:24] <Scix> _ruben: tanks :) I'll try it out
[07:33] <Scix> Do i need to install gbind on the server, or at the workstation?
[10:02] <gane>  please anyone tell me, how to get the "switchable on-the-fly I/O schedulers " in kernel 2.6.26
[10:16] <ivoks> idea for intrepid+1 - bring up SSH daemon when in single user mode, since network is already up :/
[10:38] <[Solars]> ivoks that makes too much sense
[10:42] <ivoks> i have a situation where server is couple of thousands of miles away
[10:43] <ivoks> and it has filesystem error and no ipmi and no any remote management
[10:43] <ivoks> but it did bring network up, i can ping it and everything
[10:43] <ivoks> i just can't do anything about it :/
[12:51] <bigon> hi could some one have a look at bug #258192
[12:51] <uvirtbot`> Launchpad bug 258192 in dhcp3 "problem with paths and binding to ldap server" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/258192
[12:59] <Koon> zul: would you consider bug 280428 a bug or a feature ?
[12:59] <uvirtbot`> Launchpad bug 280428 in openvpn "Prompted for VPN (openvpn) user info at boot-up" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/280428
[13:00] <zul> Koon: just a sec
[13:01] <zul> Koon: bug imho
[13:02] <Koon> zul: it's a debian "fix" we merged
[13:02] <Koon> zul might also cause bug 278784
[13:02] <uvirtbot`> Launchpad bug 278784 in openvpn "openvpn configuration with token (pkcs11 provider) blocks the boot" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/278784
[13:02] <Koon> since according to the reporter it did not occur with hardy
[13:03] <zul> Koon: *sigh* yeah I saw I still think its a bug though
[13:03] <Koon> zul: so we should revert the change and add the < /dev/null again ?
[13:03] <zul> I think so
[13:04] <Koon> zul: I wanted confirmation that it would fix 278784 too, but I won't have it before tomorrow
[13:04] <zul> Koon: ok hmmm....
[13:04] <Koon> I'll prepare the fix today and we'll see how we can slip it before freeze tomorrow ?
[13:05] <Koon> or just fix it
[13:05] <zul> slip it
[13:13] <TrioTorus> ubuntu.com lets me download an alternative desktop cd, is there an alternative server cd available as well?
[13:13] <TrioTorus> I would like to install ubuntu server to a software raid with lvm
[13:15] <Scix> TrioTorus: there is not a alternate server disk. but google ubuntu lvm raid, and you should find something to help you :)
[13:16] <nijaba> TrioTorus: You do not need an alternate cd, but I would recommend waiting for Intrepid as kirkland as worked a lot to make it easier to set this up
[13:19] <TrioTorus> ok, anywhere I can see a 'what's new' page for intrepid server?
[13:30] <TrioTorus> I guess a 'what's new is only for after the release. Makes sense. Thanks for the pointers.
[14:26] <W8TAH> im doing all my server updates today -- is there a way i can make it do an update, upgrade and all in one command without me having to come back to it and tell it yes i want to do it?
[14:34] <sommer> W8TAH: you can try sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get -y upgrade
[14:36] <W8TAH> cool
[14:36] <W8TAH> thanks
[15:14] <slicslak> if i specify dns-nameservers in /etc/network/interfaces will ubuntu overwrite /etc/resolv.conf on boot?
[15:31] <uvirtbot`> New bug: #283807 in freeradius (universe) "freeradius with openssl support doesn't compile" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/283807
[15:43] <brewmaster> anyone have any recommendations about the best way to prevent people from sending e-mail from addys on my domain?
[15:44] <brewmaster> I've tried using SPF records, but it seems to still be happening
[15:44] <maswan> stop using smtp?
[15:45] <maswan> sorry, there really isn't any good cures for spam out there
[15:46] <brousch> brewmaster, there is nothing you can do. It is totally up to the receiving mail server to check and enforce your SPF
[15:47] <brewmaster> brousch, meaning the people that the mail's are being sent to?
[15:48] <maswan> brewmaster: yes
[15:49] <brousch> brewmaster, not even the recipients, it is up to the recipient's mail server admin. I don't think there is any SPF checking for mail clients
[15:51] <brewmaster> brousch, I'm just a little distraught that I can do this: http://pastebin.ca/1227864
[15:52] <brewmaster> if I run that code on a completely different server, gmail sees no problem with it
[15:52] <brewmaster> they even give an SPF pass
[15:53] <brousch> Gmail is one of the few that that checks SPF
[15:53] <brewmaster> SPF records are in a server's DNS, no?
[15:53] <brousch> right
[15:53] <maswan> But most recipient mail servers don't care about SPF
[15:54] <brousch> Gmail checks SPF, but I don't think they reject based on it. I think they just send it to spam
[15:56] <brousch> If Gmail is passing SPF from what should be incorrect servers, then your SPF may be set up wrong
[16:01] <brewmaster> brousch, weird, openspf tells me everything is fine with my spf records
[16:01] <brewmaster> it rejects from the IP i'm testing
[16:01] <brewmaster> yet gmail labels it as a "pass"
[16:02] <brousch> that is unexpected
[16:04] <brewmaster> just tested somewhere else, it gave me a "softfail"
[16:06] <brewmaster> wait a minute...
[16:06] <brewmaster> "However, the domain is still testing its SPF policy, so the message should not have been rejected."
[16:06] <brewmaster> i didn't realize my domain was testing the SPF policy....
[16:06] <brewmaster> (and I have no idea what that mean :P)
[16:07] <brousch> I have no idea either
[16:09] <brewmaster> brousch, if I'm getting rejection letters saying that messages from "spammer@yourdomain.com" are being rejected, then that is a good thing, no?
[16:10] <brousch> It means people are rejecting spam that is using your domain name. Whether that is good or not is subjective. ;)
[16:21] <Koon> zul: posted openvpn fix for bug 280428, will you handle it or should I subscribe main-sponsors ?
[16:21] <uvirtbot`> Launchpad bug 280428 in openvpn "Prompted for VPN (openvpn) user info at boot-up" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/280428
[16:22] <zul> Koon: ill do it right now
[16:22] <Koon> this one behaves like hardy did
[16:23] <brewmaster> brousch, good that it's recognized as spam since it's not me who's sending it, bad that people are trying to send spam through my domain
[16:27] <zul> Koon: done
[16:27]  * Koon hugs zul
[16:34] <Ahmuck> i'm trying to install and use ltsp on ubuntu server, which i thought was available with tasksel.  however tasksel does not execute.
[16:34] <Ahmuck> what am i doing wrong?
[16:37] <rrittenhouse> I am trying to use the break=top option on the Ubuntu Hardy Server CD. Should this work like it typically does?
[16:38] <rrittenhouse> It's just going straight to the install screen without dropping me into busybox
[16:41] <uvirtbot`> New bug: #283844 in sg3-utils (universe) "missing scsi_reserve script" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/283844
[16:44] <r2bit> hi there. i've a question about how ubuntu server releases updates. does it only send out patches like rhel or new releases aswell?
[16:44] <r2bit> say.. will there wver be a php 5.3 package in 8.04LTS?
[16:57] <uvirtbot`> New bug: #277213 in apache2 (main) "Apache 2.2.9 strange logs" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/277213
[17:08] <rrittenhouse> I am trying to install Ubuntu Hardy on an IBM Netfinity 5100 and it is failing with all sorts of different issues. I just tried pure Debian and it seems to be working fine.
[17:11] <rrittenhouse> With Ubuntu server it gets through part of the screens until it stops and errors about reading the cd. The cd has been checked and is fine...
[17:11] <rrittenhouse> with the Ubuntu hardy live cd it spits out IO errors
[17:14] <greenfly> rrittenhouse: was this an official cd or one your burned?
[17:19] <rrittenhouse> greenfly: One that was burned. I just used it in another machine and it worked fine.
[17:22] <greenfly> rrittenhouse: I've seen things like that some times when I burn a CD at a fast rate. it seems some CD-ROM drives can read it fine and others can't
[17:22] <greenfly> perhaps try burning a new CD-ROM at a much slower speed, or alternatively, on a different CD-R
[17:34] <rrittenhouse> greenfly: Weve tried 3 different cd-rom drives and a new ide cable
[17:35] <rrittenhouse> greenfly: It always seems to get to the same step with the server cds when it fails
[17:35] <rrittenhouse> greenfly: For some reason the Debian cd worked like a charm
[17:37] <ScottK> Did you try the alternate CD?  It uses the same installer that Debian uses.
[17:37] <rrittenhouse> ScottK: Yeah with the same results.
[17:38] <ScottK> Odd.
[17:44] <rrittenhouse> ScottK: Like right now for instance it's stuck on binutils-static-udeb and it ends up erroring out.
[17:44] <ScottK> Sorry.  No ideas here.
[17:44] <rrittenhouse> ok
[17:44] <rrittenhouse> thanks anyhow
[17:53] <rrittenhouse> ScottK: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy/+source/linux/+bug/148466 Appears to be the same problem were having here.
[17:53] <uvirtbot`> Launchpad bug 148466 in linux "Won't boot on a DELL Poweredge 2500" [Undecided,Fix released]
[19:30] <mm_202> Hey guys, quick question.  How can I tell if the ubuntu version of 32bit or 64bit?
[19:31] <ivoks> uname -a
[19:32] <mm_202> No, tried that.
[19:32] <mm_202> On a 32bit install: Linux jayoffice 2.6.24-21-generic #1 SMP Mon Aug 25 17:32:09 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux
[19:33] <mm_202> dammit
[19:33] <mm_202> Linux terra 2.6.24-19-server #1 SMP Wed Aug 20 18:43:06 UTC 2008 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[19:33] <mm_202> Just noticed the second-to-last word...
[19:33] <mm_202> ivoks: Thank you and sorry!
[19:34] <ivoks> np
[19:34] <ScottK> ivoks: You should have to do VERY little custom configuration of amavisd-new in Intrepid.  The Ubuntu defaults will look very familiar to you.  Thanks.
[19:34] <ivoks> ScottK: :D
[19:35] <ScottK> For Jaunty I think we're well positioned now to automate integration with postfix, clamav, and spamassassin.
[19:35] <ivoks> ScottK: we could push quarantine system there too
[19:36] <ScottK> I think so, but I haven't looked at the specifics.
[19:36] <ivoks> the main problem is that there's lots of products
[19:36] <ivoks> but they don't blend very nice...
[19:36] <xbxb> Is it possible to deinstall Apache & PHP cleanly so that no traces of the software are left and I can reinstall them from scratch?
[19:36] <ivoks> we should just take the code and make one final solution :)
[19:37] <ivoks> xbxb: apt-get --purge remove apache.* php.*
[19:37] <xbxb> thanks... will this also get rid of configuration files, etc?
[19:37] <ivoks> xbxb: yes
[19:37] <xbxb> ivoks: thank you
[19:38] <ivoks> xbxb: unless you created your own configs in /etc/apache2/conf.d/* or /etc/php5/conf.d/*
[19:38] <ivoks> xbxb: you'll have to remove those manualy
[19:38] <xbxb> but it will delete every file of the software that was created automatically, yes?
[19:38] <ScottK> ivoks: Then I guess we ought to pick one and make it play nice.
[19:39] <ivoks> ScottK: or write something from scratch :/
[19:39] <ScottK> Yes, but we should avoid that where it's reasonable to do so.
[19:40] <ivoks> ScottK: i told you i'm thinking of starting a project inside my company which should result with something like that
[19:40] <ivoks> ScottK: in the end, it would be open source, and pushed into ubuntu
[19:40] <xbxb> ..
[19:40] <ivoks> ScottK: but this is like... 2 years time frame
[19:41] <ivoks> anyway... time to grab and work on ebox
[19:41] <xbxb> ivoks: is this correct?
[19:41] <ivoks> xbxb: yes
[19:41] <xbxb> k
[19:41] <ivoks> xbxb: man apt-get
[19:42] <ivoks> Use purge instead of remove for anything that would be removed.
[19:42] <ivoks> oh...
[19:42] <ivoks> there's apt-get purge now
[19:42] <ivoks> nice...
[19:42] <ivoks> didn't know about that :D
[19:53] <Level15> hi. i installed ubuntu server 8.04 with postgresql, but postgresql does not seem to have the fuzzystrmatch functions. why is that_
[19:56] <xbxb> Level15:  I don't know, but #postgresql may be a better place to ask
[19:56] <Level15> xbxb: im asking there now
[20:31] <uvirtbot`> New bug: #283982 in samba (main) "Windbindd crashes while handling something with trusted domains" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/283982
[20:54] <anlif> Hi all. I have a problem with Torrentflux-b4rt. I just set it up and got it running now, the problem is, I can only access it locally on my network (with a local ip, e.g 192.168.1.10) and not with my dns (or the ip that I get from my provider, which is the same). When I try to do this I get a "404 error, file not found". I suspect it might have something to do with my routers ability to be remotely configured. It's a Linksys WRT54gl router. Th
[21:01] <ropetin> anlif: what port is it running on, and have you forwarded that in your router?
[21:22] <lamont> ScottK: kewl
[21:22] <lamont> (integration fun)
[21:22] <ScottK> ;-)