[01:05] <Ahmuck> hi.  after installing xubuntu on a great system with an nvidia vidoe card, it boots, but i don't get video
[01:06] <Ahmuck> is there a way to boot to safe vga mode until i can get it to work?
[01:09] <mini-man> I think you can hit F6 and edit the boot options, the option would be vga=XXX, not sure where the documentation on that i
[01:09] <mini-man> *is
[02:31] <Ahmuck> is there a way to start *untu in safe graphics mode?
[02:33] <charlie-tca> Try hitting ESC when it tells you Grub is booting, then goto Rescue mode, then pick fix x
[02:34] <charlie-tca> then when the menu comes back, resume boot
[02:34] <Ahmuck> i've done that.  however i get no graphics
[02:34] <Ahmuck> i'm using a nvidia high end graphics card
[02:34] <Ahmuck> and i don't think that xubuntu is loading the correct driver
[02:34] <charlie-tca> When do you lose the video
[02:35] <Ahmuck> after grub
[02:35] <Ahmuck> i assume when it's trying to start x
[02:36] <Ahmuck> no xubuntu logo
[02:36] <Ahmuck> however, when installing, i get the xubuntu logo
[02:37] <charlie-tca> No logo and no messages, right. Back to the Grub menu
[02:38] <charlie-tca> Hit e to edit the line, remove quiet and splash at the end of the line, that's
[02:38] <charlie-tca> a one time edit
[02:38] <charlie-tca> It will show you messages as it boots, then
[02:39] <charlie-tca> we can see where it is losing it.
[02:39] <Ahmuck> ok, video card is GeForce 6800 GS, with nforce SLI
[02:42] <Ahmuck> hal started, then something about deffered initialization then blank screen
[02:46] <charlie-tca> So, I don't think x is starting yet. Did this work with the LiveCD?
[02:49] <Ahmuck> nope
[02:49] <Ahmuck> anachron starts
[02:50] <Ahmuck> iirc, kubuntu live cd starts
[02:50] <Ahmuck> lemme check
[02:58] <Ahmuck> k, kubuntu 8.04 starts kdm, but no video either
[02:58] <Ahmuck> live cd
[03:00] <charlie-tca> I'd check the hardware first, Make sure no pins are bent, cards are seated, etc
[03:00] <Ahmuck> hardware's been checked
[03:01] <Ahmuck> r u talking about the proc?
[03:01] <Ahmuck> if i'm getting a spash screen, is and text, is there a reason it won't boot into x and *dm?
[03:02] <charlie-tca> Not the proc
[03:02] <charlie-tca> Yes there is a reason, test and splash use a different resolution.
[03:07] <Ahmuck> so, i'm trying to force it into 800x768 or safe resolution for the time bieng
[03:07] <Ahmuck> there are no pins bent, and the card is seated
[03:07] <Ahmuck> *untu doesn't have a fall back vesa or svga resolution?
[03:08] <charlie-tca> Fall back is vesa, normally fix x will reset it
[03:08] <Ahmuck> x resets to vesa?
[03:08] <charlie-tca> x resets to whatever the video card requires
[03:09] <charlie-tca> I'm about at a loss here
[03:09] <Ahmuck> then i am confused.  this card is capable of about any resolution i can throw at it
[03:10] <charlie-tca> But if xorg doesn't recognize the card, it won't know what to do with it.
[03:11] <charlie-tca> and I apparently do not have enough knowledge to help further
[03:11] <Ahmuck> i think i found the problem
[03:11] <charlie-tca> me?
[03:12] <Ahmuck> no
[03:21] <Ahmuck> picked this mobo/video up from someone that tossed it because it was locking up on games
[03:21] <Ahmuck> that was because the northbridge fan was out and not cooling it properly
[03:21] <Ahmuck> they were using two sli cards for graphics
[03:21] <Ahmuck> or pci-e
[03:22] <Ahmuck> i neglected to hook up the power cable to the video for the vga
[03:22] <charlie-tca> yea, that'll do it :)
[03:25] <Ahmuck> i don't think i realized that this card needed power to the video card to output vga
[03:25] <Ahmuck> though, i'm still not getting video
[03:26] <Ahmuck> i'm wondering if the northbridge became to hot
[03:27] <charlie-tca> possible, I got a high end ATI card that way, and it wound up back where it came from
[03:28] <Ahmuck> he he in the garbage i suppose
[03:29] <Ahmuck> sadly i just put on two monster heat sinks
[03:29] <Ahmuck> money out the window.  i'll try digital cable tomorrow i guess
[03:30] <Ahmuck> so, i'm still confused.  why would the splash screen show and not a login prompt.
[03:30] <Ahmuck> it would seem there was a fallback mode for the card or the os
[03:31] <charlie-tca> I don't know if the card is bad, it might be xorg
[03:32] <charlie-tca> I'd ask here again later or tomorrow and see if someone else can help
[03:32] <Ahmuck> i'll try a digital cable in the morning.  i have a analog/digital monitor and sometimes analog gives me trouble
[03:39] <keram> hello
[03:39] <keram> i have just hooked up a debian gateway to my LAN and am trying to connect my xubuntu box to it to get internet
[03:40] <keram> here is my interfaces on the xubuntu box: http://rafb.net/p/KLlP4I72.html
[03:40] <keram> when i restart networking i can ping the gateway but i cant access the internet
[03:40] <keram> do i need to specify any other directives to get it working?
[04:16] <moontiger> hi :)
[04:17] <moontiger> does anybody have any idea if the firefox3 font issues will be resolved in 8.10 release?
[04:19] <Odd-rationale> moontiger: might want to ask in #ubuntu+1
[04:20] <Odd-rationale> !intrepid
[04:20] <moontiger> ummmmm i use xubuntu
[04:20] <moontiger> and it has crappy ff3 fonts
[04:20] <moontiger> and i was wondering if they will get fixed
[04:20] <moontiger> ahhhhhhh
[04:21] <moontiger> got it thnx
[04:21] <moontiger> :)
[04:27] <moontiger> are they all that friendly in ubuntu+1 ?
[04:28] <crimsun> moontiger: what would really help in troubleshooting is giving a specific bug # on launchpad
[04:28] <moontiger> its on launchpad already
[04:28] <moontiger> and i was simply asking if it had been fixed in ibex
[04:28] <moontiger> and i get a bunch od bs from some uppity aholes with sticks up their butts
[04:28] <moontiger> what a bunch of losers
[04:28] <crimsun> moontiger: a specific bug number is more useful, though.  ATM I'm chasing a PulseAudio bug, so doing just a little bit of legwork for me would help.
[04:29] <moontiger> its the libcairo bug that is in launchpad and has many many people suffering the same thing
[04:34] <crimsun> heh, I just looked at all of them.  Which was it?
[07:34] <tangbai> How to recreate initrd on Hardy?
[07:40] <jointman> Hello I need help with regards to upgrading Xubuntu to version 7.10.
[07:41] <jointman> I downloaded 7.10 and burned it as an ISO to disc. I currently have an older version of Xubuntu. Do I need to erase my current Xubuntu or will that process be covered in the partition section of the installation process?
[07:50] <DCPom> jointman, what are you running now?
[07:51] <jointman> i dont know
[07:51] <jointman> how can i know what version i have?
[07:52] <jointman> is there a terminal command?
[07:52] <DCPom> yeah i just can't remember it off the top of my head
[07:52] <DCPom> !version
[07:52] <DCPom> do that
[07:53] <DCPom> what version?
[07:56] <jointman> 7.04
[07:56] <jointman> sorry for the delay
[07:56] <DCPom> no problem
[07:56] <jointman> feisty
[07:58] <DCPom> go to terminal
[07:58] <DCPom> sudo apt-get update
[07:58] <DCPom> sudo apt-get upgrade
[07:58] <DCPom> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[08:01] <jointman> ok thanks man
[08:16] <Whassap> I just installed xubuntu on an ancient k6-2 system.  it works far  better than a debian net install did.  just for the sake of eye candy, i'd like to know
[08:17] <Whassap> if it is possible to enable some themes with real alpha transparency, like vista
[08:18] <Whassap> i believe murrine does that, but that seems like it is only in a subversion.  is that the case, or is there a released alternative?
[08:21] <ugnius> is 700Mhz pentium too slow dor h264, they play choppy, sound is out of sync, etc.
[08:22] <ugnius> dor=for
[08:23] <Whassap> sound being out of sync could have to do with your sound card latency
[08:26] <Whassap> also, a low enough quality video it seems should play fine
[08:27] <ugnius> may be sound card, but xvid plays just great
[08:28] <Whassap> are you trying to make a h264 video?
[08:29] <Whassap> i believe google videos uses that.  if you can play them, it works.  (you prob. want to verify that's what they use, tho.)
[08:37] <ugnius> thanks, no I got few hi def movies in h264, but cant play them though on my ancient laptop
[08:42] <ugnius> kernel update today?
[08:47] <Burn> hello, how can I make compiz work in xfce please?
[08:48] <knome> !compiz
[08:48] <knome> Burn, see ^
[08:48] <Burn> knome: thx
[08:50] <Whassap> i just read it doesn't do real alpha channel transparency, tho, if that's what you're after
[08:59] <Burn> hm
[08:59] <Burn> I just wanted some transparency and the rotating cube
[09:00] <Burn> but it's doing weird
[09:08] <Whassap> i'm about to break down and try the svn of the murrine engine, which does real transparency
[09:09] <Whassap> can xfce do gnome themes if i install them?  i'm using xbuntu
[09:11] <TheSheep> Whassap: it can do gtk+2 themes, but not metacity or emerald themes
[09:12] <Whassap> thx :)
[09:15] <Whassap> if i have gtk2, and i download a theme that uses alpha channel transparency, can i get real transparency?  are there any, or is that just other desktops and the murrine svn?  do i need to install anything special?
[09:20] <Whassap> anybody know what i have to install to see png's in firefox?
[09:21] <knome> !png
[09:21] <Whassap> !png
[09:22] <Whassap> no response from the trigger
[09:22] <wormsxulla> png in firefox ?
[09:22] <knome> i've heard this one before.
[09:22] <jointman> hey uhm
[09:22] <wormsxulla> isn't that native?
[09:22] <jointman> i have a dual OS system, windows and Xubuntu 7.04
[09:23] <jointman> im gonna install xubuntu 8.04 using a cd
[09:23] <jointman> if i use guided partition, will that delete all my partitions?
[09:23] <wormsxulla> i mean, you wouldn't need anything to see png in firefox
[09:23] <jointman> or just overwrite my current 7.04?
[09:23] <TheSheep> Whassap: firefox displays png files properly without extra magic
[09:24] <knome> TheSheep, should.
[09:24] <Whassap> i was on on the gnome art website, and it wasn't showing them for theme thubnails or screenshots.  maybe i need libpng3
[09:26] <Whassap> for example, http://art.gnome.org/preview.php?image=thumbnails/gtk_engines/gtk_engines_icon.png
[09:28] <Whassap> actually, that may just indicate no screenshot is available.  never mind.
[09:28] <TheSheep> Whassap: it displays for me just fine
[09:28] <jointman> hey
[09:28] <jointman> i dual booted with windows
[09:28] <jointman> but it erased my windows
[09:29] <jointman> i used guided partition
[09:29] <jointman> what happened?
[09:29] <jointman> i installed hardy heron 8.04
[09:29] <jointman> i didnt choose the eraser disk option, i chose guided partition
[09:29] <jointman> but it seems to have reformatted my windows partition
[09:29] <jointman> is that possible?
[09:31] <jointman> Hello. I just installed Hardy Heron 8.04. I originally had Xubutu Feisty 7.04 and Windows XP. When I installed Xubuntu Hardy Heron I chose the option "guided partitition" and let it do it's thing. It seems that my Windows partition was deleted in the process. What happened here?
[09:38] <Whassap> am i supposed to have a theme manager?  i don't see it in settings, system, or the synaptic repositories
[09:44] <TheSheep> Whassap: it's called 'user interface settings'
[09:46] <Whassap> that's a different ballgame altogether.  thx!
[09:49] <jointman> damn im depressed
[09:49] <knome> oh?
[09:51] <Whassap> art.gnome.org says to drag a theme link onto my theme manager to install, but it doesn't seem to be working
[09:53] <TheSheep> Whassap: yes, read the instructions on xfcelook.org
[09:53] <TheSheep> xfce-look.org, sorry
[09:54] <Whassap> k.  will do.
[09:54] <TheSheep> http://www.xfce-look.org/comments/discussion.php?id=2&forumpage=0#c252509
[09:55] <Whassap> a trickier issue is: i have a system that runs far better now than when i tried the debian network setup disk.
[09:55] <Whassap> i have an encrypted file system, but i could only figure out how to get the partition manager
[09:56] <Whassap> to format one of the disks that way
[09:56] <Whassap> i need to set up the other one to be encrypted as well.  right now, it is unpartitioned.
[09:58] <Whassap> ideally, i could use only one passphrase for both.  i know in principle it is possible to make one virtual volume span two real drives, but i would be happy right now to create a new one at a different mount point, and set it up to mount automatically.
[10:22] <Whassap> ehen i try to extract an archive to my themes folder, i get an access violation.  i know how to go into superuser mode from the command line, but not the gui
[10:22] <Whassap> how do i do that?
[10:28] <_sebastian_> hi all
[10:28] <_sebastian_> Question: what is the default PDF viewer for xubuntu?
[10:44] <Myrtti> evince I think
[10:57] <_sebastian_> yea thats what I guess as well
[13:00] <homebrewcider> can someone tell me please how to remove a program from the applications menu, not from the computer, just from the menu
[13:05] <homebrewcider> sorry, got cut off before...can someone tell me please how to remove a program from the applications menu, not from the computer, just from the menu
[13:22] <Odd-rationale> homebrewcider: http://wiki.xfce.org/tips#how_to_add_or_remove_applications_in_the_system_menu
[13:25] <homebrewcider> checking now
[15:24] <wattz> morning all
[15:24] <vinnl> Good afternoon wattz  :)
[15:29] <wattz> anyone here play with Xubuntu and evtouch?
[15:29] <vinnl> !anyone
[15:29] <wattz> cause i was curious :)
[15:29] <vinnl> xD
[15:29] <wattz> want to get to know fellow users, since I am new to xubuntu XD
[15:29] <wattz> i use ubuntu as a server
[15:30] <wattz> and now xubuntu
[15:30] <wattz> for my touch screen desktop
[15:30] <wattz> silly!
[15:30] <vinnl> Speaking of which, has anybody tried liveusb or usb-creator on 8.10 and did it or did it not work for you? :)
[15:30] <wattz> !anybody
[15:30] <vinnl> wattz, you should check out the mailinglists :)
[15:30] <vinnl> Heh
[15:30] <wattz> vinnl: what's wrong with some conversation?
[15:30] <wattz> maillist are lonely :(
[15:31] <vinnl> wattz, or check the #xubuntu-offtopic channel if you're in for some chit-chat ;-)
[15:31] <wattz> :|
[15:33] <vinnl> ('cause I haven't played with evtouch :)
[15:34] <wattz> i will still call you pal :)
[15:34] <vinnl> :)
[15:35] <wattz> actually Im trying to fix it now, it seems to be off slightly, so let me ask a real question.  Someone ever use the apt package of evtouch and has ever had the touch be off slightly on the left or the right side?
[15:36] <wattz> not sure if the package has anything to do with it, and wondering if it's just a min/max X min/max Y issue
[15:37] <wattz> not really sure if there is away to have it give you the x/y values
[15:56] <Sulle> Hey, how do i enable my 2 monitors?. I have downloaded the nvidia drivers and installed them. But cant find anny option on how to enable 2 screens annywhere.
[15:57] <vinnl> Sulle, which version of Xubuntu are you using?
[15:57] <Sulle> Newest
[15:58] <vinnl> i.e. 8.04?
[15:58] <Sulle> yes
[15:58] <vinnl> You could try pressing Alt+F2 and running "displayconfig-gtk"
[15:58] <vinnl> Ehm
[15:58] <vinnl> "gksudo displayconfig-gtk:
[15:58] <vinnl> "gksudo displayconfig-gtk"
[15:58] <vinnl> >.<
[15:59] <sh4lindev> wattz: hi, if you stay here for another 2 hours (that's the time i'll be back from work) i can help you calibrating it (my home nick is venome :) ) nice to see it works at last
[15:59] <Sulle> ok but here i just have listed one screen
[15:59] <sh4lindev> wattz: btw. you can meanwhile try to adjust the max and min values
[16:00] <wattz> sh4lindev: awesome, thank you
[16:00] <wattz> that's what Im trying to do now
[16:00] <wattz> the issue I was having was "Option MoveLimit "1" "
[16:00] <wattz> lol
[16:00] <vinnl> Sulle, ow... I use just one myself :(
[16:00] <Sulle> :( it worked yesterday when i had xp :S
[16:01] <wattz> sh4lindev: im pretty close
[16:01] <sh4lindev> wattz: it's these values which say where the screen starts and ends ... there is also a tool for that, but i don't remeber how is it called, it's somewhere in the libraries for evtouch and has calibrate or calibration in its name ...
[16:01] <Sulle> brb reboot
[16:01] <sh4lindev> wattz: but I gotta go now
[16:01] <wattz> sh4lindev: no worries
[17:11] <venome> wattz: so, how is it goin on with your touchscreen?
[19:00] <vinnl> OK, I'm going to ask this here... Has anybody else experienced this with Xubuntu 8.10? http://launchpadlibrarian.net/18576959/wtf.png
[19:00] <vinnl> ...the "Reinstall Package" button looks pressed, but I didn't click it
[19:01] <charlie-tca> Is it the same shade grey as depressed or a shade or two lighter?
[19:02] <charlie-tca> I think sometimes they shade, but lighter than a pressed button
[19:03] <vinnl> Wait, I'll make a screenshot with a pressed button
[19:04] <vinnl> charlie-tca, http://launchpadlibrarian.net/18577380/wtf2.png
[19:04] <vinnl> It is a tad darker, but it's confusing nonetheless
[19:05] <charlie-tca> Yes, also note the double box instead of single. I think it's worth a bug report
[19:06] <charlie-tca> I'll keep my eyes open for that, too.
[19:08] <wormsxulla> evening. i have a little problem with flash
[19:08] <Mixed_--_> anyone expert that know how to configure ATI video cards?  I am trying to configure an old ATI Rage 128 Xpert on my xubuntu box with hardy heron
[19:08] <vinnl> charlie-tca, the bugreport is here but is quite inactive: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xubuntu-artwork/+bug/277543
[19:08] <vinnl> !ati
[19:08] <Mixed_--_> vinnl, i already did that, havent found any info on Rage 128
[19:09] <vinnl> :(
[19:09] <Mixed_--_> vinnl, i do not have an ATI Radeon 9500 or newer video card
[19:10] <charlie-tca> vinnl: if I can reproduce it, I can confirm it
[19:10] <vinnl> Mixed_--_, sorry, I really know nothing about video cards, I was just hoping ubottu could provide a good starting point...
[19:11] <charlie-tca> Mixed_--_: what version of Xubuntu
[19:11] <Mixed_--_> charlie-tca, I have hardy heron
[19:11] <charlie-tca> Uh- don't know that one
[19:12] <Mixed_--_> vinnl, if i could at least get 1024 x 710 resolution it would be nice, or is it 720?  ok 700 something
[19:12] <wormsxulla> i have flash 9.0.48.0.2 installed (via synaptic) and it's working in firefox. now i have manually installed a seamonkey nightly, and i want to install flash in it. the automatic install of plugins failed, so i'm directed to the adobe flash player download page for linux. but it shows me flash for 8.04 and i'm on 7.10. question is: can i download the .deb for 8.04 safely, and how to install...
[19:12] <wormsxulla> ...it in my seamonkey ?
[19:12] <wormsxulla> oops :)
[19:13] <vinnl> Mixed_--_, 1024x768 I guess, I normally just suggest to press Alt+F2 and run "gksudo displayconfig-gtk", but that's all I know
[19:13] <Mixed_--_> what does "alt-f2" do?
[19:13] <vinnl> Allow you to run a command
[19:13] <Mixed_--_> oh i see... LoL
[19:13] <vinnl> ^.^
[19:14] <Mixed_--_> what's "gksudo"?? what's the difference from the normal sudo command?
[19:17] <Mixed_--_> ok im about to install some updates about restricted drivers, hopefully one of them will help me out  abit
[19:18] <zoredache> gksu works in a gui
[19:18] <zoredache> so you can do a alt-f2 'gksudo xterm' and the password prompt will show up as a window
[19:19] <zoredache> sudo will quits if it isn't run in a terminal
[19:22] <wormsxulla> noone knows about my flash question?
[19:25] <zoredache> wormsxulla: my bet is that if you place a symlink in the right place you could get it to use the existing flash plugin.
[19:26] <wormsxulla> erf... i don't know how to place a symlink to do that
[19:26] <wormsxulla> :) but i'd like to
[19:28] <zoredache> I am not sure where it would go either.  I do know that the flash plugin that you spoke about installing is probably what you already have.
[19:29] <vinnl> Mixed_--_, and, did it work?
[19:30] <wormsxulla> well, it says Flash 10 when i click on "installation instructions" on http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash , and synaptic says i have flash 9... installed, but i'm sure i can live with only one flash installed
[19:31] <vinnl> Flash 10 has *just* been released :)
[19:31] <wormsxulla> i'm unlucky really :)
[19:31] <vinnl> http://blogs.adobe.com/penguin.swf/2008/10/flash_player_10_is_live.html
[19:31] <wormsxulla> i'll keep the 9... i have if someone can help me :)
[19:32] <charlie-tca> Let me boot 7.10 and see if I can find the files for you
[19:32] <Mixed_--_> hey i just upgraded to the latest kernel version :-)
[19:32] <wormsxulla> heh
[19:33] <Mixed_--_> vinnl, i tried what you just told me, it didn't work, it didnt see anything pop up
[19:33] <vinnl> :S
[19:33] <vinnl> What do you get if you open a terminal window and run "gksudo displayconfig-gtk"?
[19:34] <Mixed_--_> vinnl, thank you, youre a genius!!!!  :-)
[19:35] <vinnl> xD
[19:35] <vinnl> That was meant to check if there was an error message, not to solve it :P
[19:35] <wormsxulla> huh huh
[19:36] <Mixed_--_> vinnl, well that sent me to an applet where i could configure my video card
[19:36] <Mixed_--_> vinnl, i can also change the resolution however 1024 x768 is not shown, this means i have to configure the monitor manually
[19:39] <vinnl> Mixed_--_, I have to go now, good luck with your problem :)
[19:39] <Mixed_--_> vinnl, thank you for pointing me at the right direction
[19:40] <charlie-tca> wormsxulla: look in  /usr/lib/firefox/plugins for the plugin
[19:40] <charlie-tca> You should be able to copy it from there to seamonkey plugins
[19:42] <wormsxulla> charlie-tca: thanks, looking there
[19:44] <Ahmuck> hi.  is there a way to set the vga resolution?
[19:44] <Ahmuck> prior to x starting?
[19:48] <wormsxulla> charlie-tca: found and copied, thank you very much! (i'm waiting for an answer before restarting seamonkey / chatzilla)
[19:48] <charlie-tca> sounds right. Should now work for you.
[19:54] <wormsxulla> brb !
[19:56] <wormsxulla> charlie-tca: :) wonderful, thank you
[19:56] <charlie-tca> You're welcome. Glad I could help :)
[20:01] <wormsxulla> do you keep several versions of xubuntu on the same machine?
[20:01] <charlie-tca> I do, some in the hard drive, some in VirtualBox
[20:02] <charlie-tca> Also running 3 systems, which gets a bit confusing sometimes
[20:02] <wormsxulla> :)
[21:23] <Mixed_--_> anyone know how to configure xubuntu so that a secondary internal IDE drive appears under "FileSystem"???
[21:25] <PupUser97b65a> Hey guys
[21:25] <Mike> Hey guys
[21:26] <Guest91754> I am trying to set up an old laptop as a dedicated server
[21:26] <Guest91754> But xubuntu won
[21:27] <Guest91754> 't see my ethernet card drivers
[21:27] <Guest91754> I've tried several ethernet drivers
[21:27] <Guest91754> I mean ports
[21:27] <charlie-tca> Hey Mike
[21:27] <Guest91754> I'm Mike but it changed me to Guest for some reason
[21:28] <charlie-tca> Guest91754: What version of Xubuntu are you using?
[21:28] <Michael> Let me check
[21:28] <Michael> Wait how do I find out :P
[21:29] <Michael> Xbuntu 8.04
[21:29] <charlie-tca> Got an icon in the upper left for network manager?
[21:29] <charlie-tca> UPper right
[21:29] <Michael> Yes I do but it has a big red X in the corner
[21:30] <charlie-tca> Yea , I know that X well
[21:30] <Michael> when I click it comes up with a menu, it says "No network devies have been found" and "Manual Configuration"
[21:31] <charlie-tca> Okay. Open a terminal and type ifconfig
[21:31] <charlie-tca> hit enter
[21:31] <charlie-tca> Should have lo and maybe eth0
[21:31] <charlie-tca> ifconfig
[21:32] <Michael> Oh
[21:32] <Michael> I typed ipconfig
[21:32] <charlie-tca> I think that's windows
[21:32] <Michael> Now what
[21:32] <charlie-tca> what did it give on the left? lo and ???
[21:32] <Michael> Yeah my son uses windows
[21:32] <Michael> Link encap: Local connection
[21:33] <charlie-tca> Is lo the only interface?
[21:33] <Michael> Local Loopback*
[21:33] <Michael> No thers more but it's basicc
[21:33] <Michael> All pointing to local
[21:33] <charlie-tca> Mine in the column with lo shows br0, eth0, eth1, tap1
[21:34] <charlie-tca> with a lot of stuff after each one
[21:34] <Michael> Mine just shows lo colum
[21:34] <Michael> n
[21:34] <charlie-tca> Okay.
[21:34] <Michael> Sorry I have a small keyboard because i'm on this very small laptop
[21:34] <Michael> Now what should I do?
[21:34] <charlie-tca> I was afraid of that laptop. This takes more experience than me.
[21:35] <charlie-tca> !networking
[21:35] <knome> !network
[21:35] <Michael> I don't have wireless
[21:35] <Michael> Ethernet
[21:35] <knome> Michael, eeepc?
[21:35] <Michael> None of you know me trust me
[21:36] <knome> Michael, is the laptop eeepc?
[21:36] <Michael> ASUS eeepc
[21:36] <knome> i have working network in it.
[21:36] <knome> just a sec.
[21:36] <Michael> This one I do
[21:37] <knome> so what is the laptop that doesn't work?
[21:37] <Michael> im trying to set up a dedicated server on another old laptop
[21:37] <Michael> But it's RAM is likke 60MB so windows will not work
[21:38] <Michael> Any ideas?
[21:38] <knome> so xubuntu doesn't recognise the network card?
[21:38] <Michael> Nope
[21:39] <Michael> It's Accton
[21:39] <Michael> Don't know what version though
[21:39] <Michael> The laptop is just naked
[21:39] <Michael> No screen
[21:39] <Michael> No keyboard no touch pad
[21:40] <Michael> I have like a monitor and others for it
[21:40] <knome> which version of xubuntu are you running on it?
[21:40] <Michael> 8.05
[21:40] <Michael> 4*
[21:41] <knome> is it a pcmcia card or builtin?
[21:41] <Michael> Umm I have no idea
[21:41] <knome> can you remove it or not?
[21:42] <knome> also, what *was* the laptop?
[21:42] <Michael> I can remove the ethenet card
[21:42] <knome> so i suppose it is pcmcia card then
[21:42] <Michael> It never said
[21:42] <Michael> My son was going to throw it out
[21:42] <Michael> He said networking was working when he had it
[21:43] <Michael> But then again he used windows
[21:43] <knome> Michael, http://www.halvathinnat.fi/catalog/images/PCMCIA%20serial(RS-232)%20card.jpg like this?
[21:43] <knome> (forget the serial port...)
[21:43] <Michael> Hold on
[21:44] <Michael> I see the piece but its inside the moterboard
[21:44] <Michael> it looks like that
[21:44] <Michael> The port
[21:45] <knome> ah so it's not pcmcia :P
[21:45] <knome> ...i suppose
[21:46] <Michael> Wait I think it need drivers
[21:46] <Michael> Because when i clickk hardware drivers
[21:46] <Michael> it shows nothing
[21:47] <knome> that's for propietary drivers, afaik
[21:48] <Michael> Anyway i can do this or you think it just wont work?
[21:50] <Michael> Well I guess i can't bye then
[21:50] <knome> Michael, i think it is really possible.
[21:50] <Michael> O
[21:50] <Michael> ?
[21:50] <knome> but i can't help you anymore, sorry.
[21:50] <Michael> Alright
[21:50] <Michael> Thanks anyways
[21:50] <knome> you might want to wait for someody else who knows these things better