[00:00] Riddell: Adept installer is completely borked with beta3 [00:00] as was mentioned earlier [00:01] oh, hmm [00:01] do we want to upload then? [00:01] I'm thinking we should revert the Installer changes first [00:01] because the fixes in beta3 are really nice... [00:02] NCommander: Thanks for trying .... [00:02] Riddell: is this the last chance we have to upload adept before final release? [00:03] no, I don't expect freeze will happen until slangasek wakes up tomorrow, and even after that things can go through with approval [00:03] mornfall said he'd look at the problem tomorrow [00:04] ScottK, well, just grab the new tarball and run with it [00:05] NCommander: Grabbing it now. [00:10] So now the question is will pbuilder finish before I have to go make the pickup from ballet class. === blueyed_ is now known as blueyed [00:15] Yep. That fixed it. [00:15] Off to ballet class ... [00:16] * Riddell imagines ScottK in tights standing on tiptoes [00:19] mornfall, JontheEchidna: libept synced, we'll decide what to do with adept tomorrow [00:23] oh shit [00:23] Object::connect: No such slot SourcesWidget::sourcesEditorFinished(int) [00:23] my bad :( [00:24] void souresEditorFinished(int reload) [00:24] ^lololol, typo [00:27] mornfall: ^ [00:59] * JontheEchidna has been able to download upgrades, fetch package lists and have upgradable packages again 3 times tonight ;-) [00:59] RC freeze is fun, eheh [01:00] Ha, device mounting works now! [01:00] though the password dialog for accessing internal partitions is annoying... [01:01] ... [01:01] LP just went offline for maintainence [01:01] * JontheEchidna headdesks [01:16] Riddell, I think your comment about Scott and the ballot will forever be burned into my brain [01:24] huh.. any chance we can make the meeting on Friday a little earlier? === emma is now known as joe-the-plumber === joe-the-plumber is now known as emma [02:19] seele: ping [02:19] DaSkreech: pong [02:20] on Ibex? [02:20] nope [02:20] computer is in other room [02:20] whats up? [02:20] Riddell: Nope. Driving to and from ballet class is an occupational risk associated with having three daughters. [02:21] seele: jut wondering if you have played with the new adept [02:21] * ScottK wonders how seele is talking with us on IRC when the computer is in the other room. [02:21] DaSkreech: yes.. [02:22] ScottK: multiple computers.. this one has hardy on it [02:22] seele: Like it? [02:22] ScottK: She's AWESOME! [02:22] and don't you forget it [02:22] DaSkreech: uhm.. it needs work [02:22] seele: Right, but it was funnier my way. [02:22] yeah I got confused the first time I used it [02:23] * DaSkreech wishes that he could figure out why Kopete krashes on ibex [02:26] Is mostly back to hanging out here [02:26] Work's been sucky in terms of time for 2 months [02:28] how is camp planning coming? [02:32] Going pretty well [02:33] I've been out of touch for a week but came back to a huuuuge number of e-mails [02:34] some of which were sadly directed at me :( [02:34] I'm actually going through them now [02:34] Still need sponsors :( [02:41] metellius: I'm loving the .tar.gz support in Ark. Thank you so much for making it a priority for us. === a|wen changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Welcome to the Kubuntu developers channel | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kubuntu/Todo | freeze approaching, quick fix everything! | Next Kubuntu meeting on Friday October 17, 2008 18:00 UTC, see https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Meetings [02:49] Riddell: around? [02:50] a|wen: kdepim is uploaded. The problem last night was I was too tired to operate patch properly. [02:50] a|wen: Thanks for all your efforts on that. === DaSkreech is now known as hilights [02:51] ScottK: cool [02:51] ScottK: no problem ... thanks for sponsoring === hilights is now known as Daskreech [02:51] It's been accepted too, so it just needs to build ... [02:51] Koffice Beta for ibex? [02:52] I'll assume none for hardy [02:53] that can take some time in any case [02:53] ScottK: do you know if Riddell will be around before the freeze? [02:54] koffice beta is in kubuntu testing PPA [02:54] for ibex [02:54] :-D [02:54] I assume Riddell will push it over... [02:57] * Daskreech should pull OO.o 3 as well [02:58] Should be fun to see if that gets in to Ibex at some time [03:00] Riddell: didn't get a conflict/replaces updated correctly for the kdesvn uploaded to intrepid, bug 284026 ... fix is avaible here: http://awen.dk/packages/kdesvn/kdesvn_1.2.1-0ubuntu2.debdiff [03:00] Launchpad bug 284026 in kdesvn "package kdesdk-kio-plugins None [modified: /var/lib/dpkg/info/kdesdk-kio-plugins.list] failed to install/upgrade: trying to overwrite `/usr/share/kde4/services/svn+file.protocol', which is also in package kdesvn-kio-plugins" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/284026 [03:07] a|wen: I can look at it. [03:08] Anyone around that knows how to make kioslaves? [03:08] ScottK: thanks a lot [03:08] txwikinger: How is getting kio-sword cleared out going? I see it's still in ichthux-desktop. [03:10] a|wen: Should it conflict/replace kdesvn-kde4 too? Didn't we have that for a while? [03:12] ScottK: kdesvn-kde4 has only ever been avaible in the kubuntu-experimental ppa [03:12] ScottK: but it should of course replace kdesdk-kio-plugins-kde4 i suppose [03:12] OK. Are we supporting upgrades from there? [03:13] OK. Well if you're going to rework it, you may as well add that in. [03:14] i'll add them both [03:20] ScottK: new debdiff uploaded http://awen.dk/packages/kdesvn/kdesvn_1.2.1-0ubuntu2.debdiff [03:26] a|wen: Test building now. [03:37] sbeattie: I looked at kdiamond-kde4 and we need it as a transitional package. I have no idea why apt can't install it though. [03:49] a|wen: Uploaded. Thank you for your contribution to Kubuntu. [04:02] hey ScottK [04:10] Heya rgreening [04:12] I think I have successfully backported plasma python support for KDE 4.1.2 [04:13] just finishing up some bits and building kdebase-worspace. Then a few tests (hopefully runs fine) and upload to testing. [04:13] so, now we can write plasmoids in python :) [04:14] rgreening: I'm going to leave that one for Riddell to upload ... [04:14] Congratulations though. [04:15] :) It was fun. I'm still not sure on the "packaging" bits in the control file. [04:17] ScottK: can you have a quick look here... http://paste.ubuntu.com/58165/ [04:17] ScottK: it's the control file for workspace with additions for python-plasma and python-plasma-examples (my two packages). [04:18] I ""think"" I got it essentially correct. [04:22] rgreening: Can you give me a unified diff from the previous one (debdiff snippet or with diff -ruN)? [04:22] sure... 1 sec [04:26] ScottK: try this... http://paste.ubuntu.com/58166/ [04:27] Looking [04:27] hmm. I already see where I missed a comma... haha [04:28] * rgreening runs to fix it... [04:28] rgreening: Why is this in kdebase-workspace? I'd have thought kde4bindings? [04:29] ScottK: It's where it is in trunk... [04:29] OK. [04:30] It looks basically right. [04:30] the Depends lines are what I am unsure of. [04:31] I also kept the items I am adding as seperate packages so we can easily move them around later if we have to. [04:31] rgreening: Was the comma you got at line 17 [04:32] Once this is in, we can go mad adding plasmoids in python... yay [04:32] yep [04:32] I saw it as soon as I pasted it :) [04:32] That was the only thing I saw [04:32] I had to catch it before you did and beat me to within an inch of my life :P [04:34] ScottK: can I get you to upload a debdiff for me? kdelibs5 needs a dep update for launchpad integration. [04:34] for bug 283834 [04:34] Launchpad bug 283834 in kde4libs "[Intrepid] "Get Help Online" in dolphin and Konqueror do not work" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/283834 [04:35] rgreening: It's working for me [04:36] yeah, you have launchpad-integration installed. remove it :) [04:36] nothing deps on it [04:36] Right [04:36] :) [04:36] so, adding a dep for it to kdelibs5 fixes [04:37] Why not just add it to kubuntu-desktop? [04:41] cause once you install kubuntu-desktop, you can uninstall it and potentially uninstall launchpad [04:41] I think there are people that would consider that a feature and not a bug. [04:41] best to force it to stay installed as it's tied to kdelibs5 innately [04:41] imo [04:42] Why? [04:42] If a user doesn't want the FOSS desktop to integrate with non-Free services, why should we force them to? [04:43] ScottK: it fails because kdiamond-kde4 depends on kdiamond, but kdiamond conflicts (and replaces) kdiamond-kde4. [04:43] Ah. Needs versioning. THanks. [04:44] * ScottK smacks vorian. [04:47] ScottK: the launchpad integration is the "get help online" and "translate this application" which are menus created in all kde applications in Kubuntu. The patch calls launchpad-integration to connect to the applications help or translation page only. [04:47] rgreening: Exactly why it's not essential. [04:47] If launchpad-integration isn't installed, these end up as dead menus [04:48] I think it's recommends at most. [04:48] essential it is.. mmmm... dead menus do not we like... mmm haha hrmmm [04:48] sbeattie: Fixing. [04:49] rgreening: Look in the policy manual at the definition of recommends. I think this fits. [04:49] ScottK: awesome, thanks! [04:49] I would agree "if" the menus we able to be hidden if it didn't find launchpad-integration program. [04:50] that would require a re-write of the existing patch which is to close to the wire... [04:50] best to discuss with Riddell in the AM I guess... [04:50] Personally I find the lack of freeness in LP a problem and don't feel we should force integration with non-free services on users. [04:50] OK. [04:50] If it's recommends, it gets installed and it's up to the user to remove it if they don't want it. [04:51] what's non-free about the help? [04:51] Launchpad is a prioprietary service. [04:51] are we talking about the same app. [04:51] thats landscape [04:51] Free as in Free, not Free as in Beer. [04:52] hrmm.. [04:53] That and I'm more than slightly annoyed at the moment about Launchpad devs asking for feedback on crap features that they were already told were crap at UDS. [04:53] lol [04:53] You tell them it's crap and they say please file bugs, to which I say "I've already been ignored once, why waste time to get ignored again". [04:54] haha [05:05] well, I e-mailed Riddell with the bug info and a debdiff. I gave him the brief overview. We'll let him mull it over a bit [05:05] PL [05:05] Urgh [05:05] OK [05:05] ScottK: I will get to it tomorrow [05:05] PL, its the new OK [05:06] Only after midnight when I was up past 2AM last night. [05:13] :P [05:30] I've run out of energy. If someone want to properly version the kdiamond replaces/conflicts on kdiamond-kde4 so it's installable, please make a debiff and hit up Riddell or apachelogger when they show up. [06:43] Morning all! [08:17] hi guys [08:18] does anybody of you have the source for example-content/kubuntu-leaflet.png ? [08:18] we need to fix the bit about powerpc [08:18] other than that it looks good for intrepid release [08:19] maybe we could transform it to .jpg too? it'd take up only half the size [08:21] dholbach: a little early, perhaps. [08:21] hm? [08:21] (in the day) [08:22] you mean Riddell and kwwii might have the original and they're not up yet? [08:22] well, thelatter part at least. [08:22] dholbach: that about sums it up [08:22] right-o [08:22] i've noideaon the former. [08:22] I'll wait :) [08:32] er [08:32] Wait [08:32] What about powerpc dholbach? [08:33] * NCommander feels his port is in danger senses tingling [08:33] NCommander: it should mention that it's no "offical architecture" [08:33] NCommander: don't worry [08:33] nothing changed, it should just be clarified in the document [08:33] Oh, but can it be mentioned ;-)? [08:33] (we do have unoffical kubuntu PPC CDs kicking around) [08:33] then you should probably mention all the other architectures as well [08:34] Only PowerPC has Kubuntu CDs [08:34] Since anonthy can't build them for universe-seeded flavors [08:34] If someone wants to build SPARC/HPPA/ia64/LPIA CDs .... [08:44] thanks a lot ScottK, really appreciate [08:46] Riddell: Kubuntu is broken on live. The about-Kubuntu fix is in :) but now the installer icon is missing. I've checked in terminal for ~/Desktop and ubiquity-kdeui.desktop is there but not showing :( [08:49] Riddell: http://www.davmor2.co.uk/live-desktop-kde.png [10:43] apachelogger, Nightrose: might you know the identity of the lady who made example-content's kubuntu-leaflet.png? [10:43] kwwii says she's a german studying in switzerland [10:44] one sec [10:46] Riddell: the only one i could think of is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MirjamWaeckerlin [10:46] but afaik she is not studying in switzerland [10:47] Nightrose: exactly, correct [10:47] she was, I think [10:47] ah ok :) [10:48] for now I'll just convert the .png to a .jpg to save space [10:48] please update example-content or ping me once you have a corrected version, ok? [10:49] FIY: it's mentioned in the last comment in bug 67537 [10:49] Launchpad bug 67537 in example-content "[edgy] '6.06' should be replaced with '6.10'" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/67537 [10:52] good morning apachelogger [10:52] moring every body [10:53] kwwii: will you contact her? [10:53] morning Xand3r [10:55] mornig Riddell [10:57] hi bigjools, thanks for your e-mail the other day, responding to it should get to the top of my todo list sometime today [10:57] Riddell: hi there - np, I just thought it would be useful feedback [10:58] Riddell: I just found the orig....http://sinecera.de/flyer.svg [10:59] kwwii: great, make sure that gets into the example-content source package this time :) [11:08] aloha Xand3r [11:08] ^^ [11:09] Riddell: what's the problem with that thing? ... did you upload a fix for kdenetwork yet? [11:11] s/kdenetwork/kdegames [11:20] apachelogger: master sitter, what is to do? [11:20] pray that 8.10 is not going to be completely broken [11:22] apachelogger: no I havn't looked at kdegames [11:22] vorian said he was going to I think [11:22] well, I have a fix ready, going to upload in a minute [11:23] apachelogger: ther is a problem, i dont believe in god [11:23] apachelogger: ping me two minutes after you do, I can review and let it through [11:23] ok [11:24] Riddell: btw, ryanakca had an addition commited to the kds branch [11:24] * apachelogger doesn't think we uploaded that [11:24] Xand3r: you must believe in something [11:25] we didn't decide if we should set font hinting to full in k-d-s, I think it's too big a change to do at this stage [11:25] apachelogger: why i have to? [11:25] Riddell: ryanakca did fix bug 277193 [11:25] Launchpad bug 277193 in kdegames "Card faces for all kdegames card games poorly rendered" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/277193 [11:25] Xand3r: otherwise you are pretty much lost [11:25] * apachelogger believes in gnu beards :D [11:26] and the force! [11:26] and bats and ninjas for that matter... [11:26] i dont belive in anything [11:26] and i am feeling lost, but i have no problem woth it [11:27] hm [11:28] Xand3r: you could belive in MOTUs [11:28] lol [11:28] * apachelogger thinks that would actually be a good start for a MOTU application [11:29] ~time JontheEchidna [11:29] America - New York - Thu Oct 16 06:29 EDT [11:29] Hm. Early. [11:29] ~time yuriy [11:29] yuriy is an unknown time. [11:29] Pfft. [11:29] ~time hobbsee [11:29] hobbsee is an unknown time. [11:29] aww, no antarctic time [11:30] apachelogger: believing in MOTU's hmmm, ok i pray to the MOTU's for saving the shape of 8.10 [11:30] ~help time [11:30] time