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user_hi there00:09
user_anyone realy good with kde sound here00:09
_xwebhey00:09
user_hey :)00:09
user_same problem haha00:09
_xwebstill no sound00:10
_xwebtry http://linuxquestions.org00:10
sevenseekeranyone here have experience with dpatch for packaging?00:25
geniisevenseeker: Try #ubuntu-motu00:26
sevenseekergenii: great, thank you00:26
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Guest38135can someone tell me what the "upgrade all" button means in adept manager?00:31
geniiGuest38135: It means upgrade all applications to the latest available as well as upgrade your kernel version to the latest available00:32
Guest38135so its good to do?00:33
geniiGeneRALLY SPEAKING, YES00:33
geniiApologies on capslock00:33
administratorhello peeps00:36
administratorneed an answer on s qestion ive got00:37
administratorive got ARk for extracting files will this let me extract RAR Files???00:38
chfwiggumadministrator: if u installed unrar or sth like that - sure00:39
afeijohey all00:39
afeijocan I use firefox 2 and 3 on my machine??00:39
chfwiggumafeijo: sure, go ahead00:40
afeijojust install both thru adept? cool00:40
afeijosame profile or should I use 2?00:40
administratorchfwiggum is that a different program then???00:41
chfwiggumafeijo: i think it might be the same profile, but its a guess00:41
afeijohmmm00:41
chfwiggumadministrator: u need unrar to extract the rar files00:41
afeijofor safety I will use 2 and add to my shortcut the -p option00:41
chfwiggumark is only handling the extractions00:41
chfwiggumu also might want unzip and gzip and so on00:42
geniiafk00:42
chfwiggumadministrator: its easily installed via adep00:42
chfwiggumadept00:43
peer`would burning a 700mb iso to a dvd to use as an installation disk be a viable option or should I use a CD-R? The target computer does have a dvd drive btw00:43
administratorah ryt im just found it there now thanks very much for all your help on this00:43
chfwiggumpeer`: u may also use a dvd, i also did this00:44
chfwiggumadministrator: youre welcome00:44
chrisruls00#compiz-fusion00:45
administratorchfwiggum ive installed this but cant see it in my menu anywere, is this supposed ot happen???00:48
chfwiggumadministrator: nope00:48
chfwiggumadministrator: but u can start it from a console or via alt+F200:49
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administratorchfwiggum ive tried to run it by pressing alt+f2 but its not coming up anywere00:51
chfwiggumadministrator: :) firtst u press alt+F2 then u enter firefox in that commandline :)00:52
rich_Hi All. I have package to install. When execute 'make' this comes back: http://pastebin.com/d7732048000:52
rich_Anyone can help ?00:52
administratorsorry about this im new to this system00:53
administratorill try now00:53
peer`on a 20gb drive, what's a good swap space for kubuntu?00:53
chfwiggumadministrator: no worries00:53
rich_peer: swap should be 2x your ram size :)00:53
chfwiggumadministrator: y would u install both ff versions?00:54
peer`okay so I can get away with a 1gb swap? ram is 51200:54
chfwiggumrich_: i think 1GB is more than enough00:54
administratorchfwiggum ??????00:54
chfwiggumadministrator: did u install FF2 AND FF3? or did i get u wrong00:55
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administratoro ryt firefox soorry firefox 300:56
chfwiggumadministrator: i am so sorry00:57
chfwiggumadministrator: i got confused. i took u for the guy who installed both firefoxes00:57
chfwiggumadministrator: my bad00:57
administratoro ryt no tour ok dnt worry00:58
administratoryour*00:58
rich_chfwiggum: that was old advice given to me by one of polish hackers, when 128mb ram was extreme luxury... :-)00:58
rociohola a todos00:58
chfwiggumadministrator: ure the rar guy. u simply start ark00:59
administratoryip then wot??00:59
chfwiggumrich_: that were different times then :)00:59
chfwiggumadministrator: then u unpack it, if u like01:00
administratordoes it let me extract rar files of this???01:00
rich_Yep:) does anyone know how to help me with that unexacutable 'make' ? details:  http://pastebin.com/d7732048001:00
administratori think i tried the other nite and itwouldnt let me01:01
chfwiggumadministrator: if theres a rar-file ark will extract it01:01
administratorok ill tyr in a sec and let you know is that ok??01:02
marcopresenti?01:08
woddf2Hello01:08
vomhi all - anyone here running the spanking new flash 10 plugin ?01:08
vomim trying to see if you can reproduce a crash - just go to http://www.vzw.com (verizon wireless)01:09
vomon my end (kubuntu 8.04 - ff3) it crashes upon loading the middle section of the page01:10
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user_computer turned its self off01:28
albuntuuser_: check the power , power supply or check your battery if you have a laptop. lol01:29
user_hehe01:29
user_albuntu: u any good with trouble shooting sound?01:29
crimsunwhat about sound?01:30
albuntuuser_: i dont know. maybe i can help. tell me whats your problem01:30
user_kde wont play sounds yet alsa is setup01:30
user_correctly01:30
user_and works01:30
user_things like, system sounds, and web browsers01:30
user_yet, amrock plays sounds01:30
albuntuuser_: try restarting alsa in terminal and pastebin the output01:30
user_how do i go about doing that01:31
albuntusudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart01:31
crimsun1) make sure everything uses ALSA's 'default' device, not something specific like 'plug:hw:*' or 'hw:*'01:32
crimsun2) make sure artsd's idle timeout is set to a very short interval01:32
user_just said shutting down alsa then setting up alsa01:32
user_crimsun: , dont know how mate01:33
crimsun3) make sure you're not using something attempting to bypass ALSA, like OSS emulation01:33
user_no emulation01:33
crimsunBTW, "restarting" alsa-utils doesn't "restart" ALSA.  It sets and resets the volume levels.01:33
crimsunwe'll be hacking that crap out so people don't continue to mistakenly use it for "restarting ALSA"01:33
user_crimsun, its weard, basicly,its a clean install01:34
user_the device is usb01:34
crimsunuser_: is it the only sound device, or do you have an onboard, too?01:34
user_i have onboard disabled01:34
user_via bios01:35
crimsunuser_: what's the output from `asoundconf list' in a Konsole?01:35
user_u know a good website where i can paste that01:35
user_ahh topic!01:36
user_http://paste.ubuntu.com/58113/01:36
crimsunuser_: except you need `asoundconf list', not just `asoundconf'01:37
user_oops01:37
user_um01:37
user_camera and default01:37
user_camera is the webcam as it has a mic01:38
crimsunuser_: which is listed top-wise (on top of the other)?01:38
user_camera top01:38
crimsunuser_: ok, and 'default' is the usb headset?01:38
user_think so01:38
user_thats the only other card connected01:38
crimsunuser_: (I'm nearly positive it is.)  ok, you'll need:  `asoundconf set-default-card default'01:39
crimsunuser_: then, log out of KDE and back in01:39
user_ok01:39
user_ill log back out and in01:39
user_well done01:44
user_:)01:44
user_worked01:44
user_so basicly the problem was the card not being default?01:45
crimsunuser_: correct01:46
user_thanks crimsun :)01:46
user_very helpfull01:46
Brydennhey guys01:51
Brydennneed some driver help for my CreativeLabs X-Fi Fatality sound card01:52
Brydennanyone know if theres good drivers out there for it? :(01:52
crimsunnot officially supported in Kubuntu Hardy or Intrepid (and won't be, since upstream is just now writing drivers for it)01:53
Brydennya i ran across some beta stuff01:53
crimsunif you're interested, you can track Takashi's work in his git tree, where he's hacking support for the X-Fis into ALSA01:53
crimsun(progress is extremely rapid, as he's an amazing programmer)01:53
Brydennhttp://connect.creativelabs.com/opensource/Wiki/SoundCard Support.aspx01:56
Brydennthats what i found01:56
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dr_willisX-Fi has sort of been a dissapointment.. Creative really dropped the ball on their linux support.02:01
dwidmannor lack thereof02:01
dr_willisIm not sure how useable it is now, or even if 8.10 will have support for it.02:01
dr_willisI was about to get one a few months ago.. and discovered that. :) so i got a low end audigy for my machine02:01
Brydenni have 8.1 installed now and have NO sound :(02:02
adrianwhat do I have to do to unarchive a .rar Torrent file ? If anyone can help, please private me. Thanks02:09
dwidmannadrian: install unrar or unrar-free and then ark or the unrar command should be able to handle it02:09
adrianthe unrar-free I should find at Applications - Add/Remove ?02:10
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scriptxi seem to get this at every kde4 login:  KLauncher could not be reached via D-Bus, error when calling start_service_by_desktop_path:02:12
scriptxempty02:12
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dwidmannadrian: maybe, try adept manager otherwise02:13
adrianok dwid, thanks for youre help :)02:14
rogan_best wireless keyboard/mouse for linux support?02:16
g__Hi02:30
g__some1 here?02:31
dwidmannYeah02:31
ghello02:31
geniiYes02:31
genii/j #ubuntu-ops02:31
geniibah02:31
g__ok all with kde4?02:31
dwidmannit's improving. It's getting pretty stable but still hasn't achieved feature parity with kde3.02:32
peer`will kubuntu 8.04 have drivers built in for my wireless card? it's an airlink101 AWLC302602:32
dr_willis!wireless02:33
ubottuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs02:33
dr_willispeer`,  its hard to tell. withoug checking the docs/forums02:33
g__sorry i don't know why i'm here...i've a problem with my microfone on acer travermate 8103..02:33
scriptxi seem to get this at every kde4 login:  KLauncher could not be reached via D-Bus, error when calling start_service_by_desktop_path02:34
g__some one could help me?02:34
g__thanks02:34
g__g02:34
joegeekIm having trouble setting up my Logitech Quickcam Pro 5000,..  Im run`n kubuntu hardy on a ibm thinkpad t41p,...  I also have a Logitech Quickcam EC witch works fine in any software I want to run,..  however, the only software Ive been able to get the Pro 5000 to work on is webcamd, and even then the colors are way off,..   I need both of these cams to work simutanously,...02:34
* genii hands Pici a coffee02:34
g__eveerybody asked but no1 response..02:35
dwidmannwhat kind of problem g__?02:35
scriptxsounds like a driver issue, joegeek02:35
g__thanks02:35
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psycoYo guys.02:36
scriptxbrb02:36
g__no front microfone wors...02:36
psycoI have a HD and I want to make it pure storage, but when I format it to ext3  I can't paste anything.02:36
psycoWhat do I have to do to beable to write things.02:36
g__i've proved with alsamixer too!02:36
peer`alright, turns out there's no out of the box support for my wireless card and I will need to use NDISwrapper to get it working. The wireless chipset is a Marvell 88w8335, is there any driver for linux for that so I can avoid using NDISwrapper?02:36
geniig__: Sounds suspiciously like an issue with the Intel HDA soundcard. What does command in Konsole of:   lspci | grep Audio                    report as your soundcard model?02:37
g__now i try to put on a consoll...02:37
psycoHow should I format a HD so that I can backup stuff like Music and Downloads?02:38
g__this is the return:thanks>;02:38
g__00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 04)02:38
peer`nevermind, I got off my lazy ass and did a little bit of digging, found the article for the Marvell 88w-etc driver02:38
peer`thanks anyways.02:38
g__tanks02:38
dwidmannpsyco: could just do one huge partition if you wanted to ... whatever filesystem you've decided you like best02:39
psycoI tried ext3 but for somereason I couldn't write anything.02:39
genii!intelhda | g__02:39
ubottug__: For fixing your Intel HDA sound this page has useful information https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto02:39
dwidmannpsyco: you might need to give yourself write privileges02:39
psycoooooo02:39
geniig__: Follow the instructions in the link provided above for your issue02:39
dwidmannpsyco: sudo chown -R $USER:$USER /path/to/mountpoint/of/the/device02:40
psycodwidmann: brb need to reboot, then I shall see if I can slove this :D (yourte a genius)02:40
psycoTY02:40
g__yea another guide thank now i try...thak to all ,special genii and ubotto02:40
g__yes i retry to put on my alsa driver...02:42
joegeekscriptx: I have both v4l and v4l2 installed i also have uvc installed as well,...  what am i missing or what may I have set wrong?02:42
g__sorry thanks for all 4 help,but now i've to go...may later i'll retry with your solution thanks  at all 4 your time!!!02:55
geniiHave fun02:55
g__you too!02:55
g__bye02:55
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peer`anybody here good with windows networking perchance?03:10
peer`it's related in so far as I need to do a little windows networking bastardizing to get a connection on my kubuntu rig03:11
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draikign0ramus: Hey there.03:47
ign0ramuswhoa03:47
draikMrKennie: Hello. I am trying to document what we did yesterday. This will prove to be fun.03:48
* genii sips a coffee03:48
* draik puts his cup out in hopes for some of genii's coffee03:50
* genii fills draik's cup with delicious Kubuntu coffee03:51
draikSWEET!03:52
draikThanks genii03:52
geniihehe You're welcome03:52
* draik is actually craving coffee now.03:54
rogan_how do i install the visualizers for amarok03:55
vomanyone here running flash 10 in kubuntu ?03:55
geniivom: I'm aparently running   10.0.1.218+10.0.0.525ubuntu1~hardy1+really9.0.124.0ubuntu2   according to apt-cache policy03:57
geniiSo it could be 9.0.124 or possibly 10.0.1.12803:58
genii10.0.1.218 rather03:58
rogan_any way to make amarok play mp4 format?04:01
geniirogan_: Maybe look here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=19374804:02
vomgenii: what does adobe's test page say you have ?04:02
vomgoogle 'flash test'04:02
geniivom: It doesn't report the version. Just a box running their flash logo with "Experience.Powerful.Results." and "Installation Complete"04:05
vomgenii: you have to click on the 'info' tab on the right04:06
genii9.0.124.004:06
vomahh :(04:06
vomthanks anyway04:06
geniinp04:06
dsmith_could someone NOT install kde4 as default,  in ibex?04:07
geniiWorks perfectly on all sites I've visited, as a side note04:07
vomgenii: yeah im troubleshooting an issue with the newly released flash 1004:07
geniidsmith_: Since it comes by default with kde4, the short answer is likely No04:08
vomim thinking it kubuntu specific04:08
vomi.e. ubuntu/gnome folks are fine04:08
dsmith_hmmmmmmm04:08
vomi installed ubuntu 8.04 in virtualbox and i cant reproduce it04:08
dsmith_why not give people the option? instead of forcing it?04:08
geniidsmith_: However maybe ask in #ubuntu+104:08
vom:(04:08
dsmith_ok04:08
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mu3enafter finding no way to get suspend on the KDM login screen yesterday, I'm looking for an alternative way to restart my x server after resume. any ideas?04:20
putrahai...04:29
dsmith_too me it seems the forced upgrade ot kde4 is like MS forcing users to vista, coming from xp04:29
dsmith_imho04:30
geniiWell, kde3.x is being abandoned by KDE. so whats to do then?04:30
geniidsmith_: I agree with you btw. Just that the fact is as I've stated it above04:31
mu3engenii, dsmith, still another year though right? kde4 should come a long way by then.04:33
geniiTraditionally the kde X.2 releases have been fairly good04:33
genii3.2 was classic for example04:33
mu3enand plus, people pay money for vista...04:34
dsmith_hmmmmm04:39
dsmith_kde4 just hasn't warmed to me yet04:40
dsmith_I dont know what it is.. perhaps it mimics vista too much04:40
dsmith_in appearance04:40
mu3eni feel you though, me neither...but well, it is kinda promising04:41
mu3eni mean, it could be...potentially...04:41
* dsmith_ wonders if the dev's ever got honest feedback from users.04:42
mu3enit's only two iterations along, still needs more community momentum behind it i guess...as long as we're all sitting in kde3, it's gonna be tough.04:43
dsmith_yep04:54
joegeekanyone have experince work`n with / debugging video4linux?05:01
geniijoegeek: Maybe ask in channel #v4l    :)05:02
joegeekperhaps debugging is the wrong term,...  i think i may mean just getting the crap to work with a peticular piece of equipment,...   no activity in there for the past 3 hours05:03
KrooksI just downloaded opera for ubuntu fofrom opera website. Now how do I install it ?05:06
KrooksThere is no way to open/import the deb package in Adept05:06
geniiKrooks: Why not just use the opera version which you can already install from in the package manager?05:07
Krooksgenii: opera not there05:09
genii!info opera05:09
ubottuPackage opera does not exist in hardy05:09
geniiHmm05:09
Krooksgenii: is it difficult ? In redhat I just do rpm -ihv package.rpm. Any si,ilar commnad in ubuntu ?05:09
geniiKrooks: If you have:   deb http://archive.canonical.com hardy/partner Packages                         it will be05:10
genii(in your sources.list)05:10
geniiKrooks: At any rate for deb install on commandline:  sudo dpkg -i package.deb05:15
Krooksdone. thanks05:15
TeslaTonyIs there a way to leave a user a message without them being logged in?05:15
geniiTeslaTony: memo05:15
TeslaTonyCool. Thanks05:17
geniiTeslaTony: /memoserv help                for syntax05:18
TeslaTonyAh...nevermind. I'm talking about my linux system. When I lock the screen, the unlock dialog gives me the option to leave a message, or log in a different user. I want to be able to leave the memo, but not have that account logged in05:20
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geniikywa: Please stop that05:56
zkhow to add language support05:57
kywai  love you06:00
geniikywa: If you have some question regarding Kubuntu please ask it. Otherwise the place for idle talk is in #kubunt-offtopic please06:02
geniikywa: #kubuntu-offtopic      rather06:02
kywasorry i will get out now06:03
mneptoki'd do what he says. he looks mean.06:03
geniizk: kde3?06:07
zkgenii,kde406:07
geniizk: Which language to change to?06:10
joegeekok,..  i think I may have figured out my prob,..   not that i've solved it, but that i may have identified it,...    are there problems with having v4l1 and v4l2 installed on the same system?  is there software that'll use v4l1 but not compatable w/ v4l2?  and is camgrab one of those pieces of software,...  the software I wanna use is camgrab,..  It'll use my Quickcam EC (/dev/video1), but not my Quickcam Pro 5000 (/dev/video0), though it works with06:11
joegeekwebcamd,...06:11
zkgenii:My language selector cann't use. K--->System-->Language support cann't use.06:13
geniizk: You may need to install a package with name like: language-pack-kde-ur   for Urdu language for instance, or language-pack-kde-eo for Esperanto and so on06:15
geniizk: Before K..System..Language     knows about it06:16
zkgenii:ok,I try.06:17
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roganeloo06:42
joshua__how do i connect to irc.freenode?07:00
emilsedghjoshua__: you are already07:01
joshua__oh07:01
joshua__im using ubuntu 8.1 and i cant update......... or add/remove software07:01
joshua__it keeps crashing... do i have any other options?07:01
emilsedghjoshua__: what is the error message you get?07:03
emilsedghjoshua__: actually 'i cant' isnt so informative07:03
joshua__errror:opening the cache07:04
joshua__parcing dependcy depends07:04
joshua__its really long07:04
jussi01joshua__: please copy and paste the error into a pastebin so we can see it07:05
jussi01!paste07:05
ubottupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)07:05
joshua__'E:Problem parsing dependency Depends, E:Error occurred while processing btnx (NewVersion1), E:Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/repoubuntusoftware.info_dists_harty_all_binary-i386_Packages, E:The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.'07:06
jussi01joshua__: are you using ubuntu ultimate?07:06
joshua__yes07:06
joshua__how did you know?07:06
jussi01joshua__: Im sorry, we cant support that here as it has different sources and other stuff07:07
jussi01you need to join their support channel07:07
jussi01!ultimate07:07
ubottuThe following are some examples of Ubuntu derived distributions that we cannot provide support for due to repository and software changes, please consult their websites for more information: gNewSense (support in #gnewsense), Linux Mint (see !mintsupport), LinuxMCE (support in #linuxmce), Ubuntu Ultimate07:07
joshua__E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied)07:14
joshua__i get this when i try in terminal mode07:14
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PoisonArrowthe new vesrsion well beta 8.10 supports my wireless card flawlessly now, I was wondering why is that, i heard it was becuase of the kernel 2.6.27 is that true?07:15
joshua__thanks for nothing guys07:32
jussi01joshua__: as I mentioned earlier, we cant helpyou as you are not running kubuntu.07:37
joshua__i see07:37
joshua__figured it out myself anyway07:37
jussi01great to hear. :)07:38
joshua__searched through google07:38
sigmaanyone here using konq kde4 as a browser?07:56
mu3en#kubuntu-kde407:59
roganneed a script to party lock amarok.. i got one form there site but it didnt work08:09
SkEmOis there any wine update? cos mine doesent seem to work08:27
SkEmOor how can i fix it? i try to start an application, this starts to load and simply closes before loading08:27
Unity`Kubuntucan anyone help me figure out compiz08:37
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_tom_hi guys09:06
_tom_short question: I can't find any documentation on the web about krunner and its features in kde4?09:07
_tom_for exmaple how can I use strigi from krunner09:07
_tom_how can i open files/directories with it....09:07
_tom_etc...09:07
chalcedony/ms09:09
* chalcedony smiles09:09
chalcedonysilly /09:10
chalcedonyis anyone around who knows kmail ?09:10
jarshallo09:13
zer0osorry guys09:31
zer0owhat does this mean? Torbutton on Firefox 3 is known to leak your timezone and livemarks via Tor.09:31
_tom_short question about KDE4:  I can#t find any documentation about strigi + krunner how can i open files/folders from krunner? how do I make a strigi-search from krunner? how do I execute shell commands?  etc....09:36
mat___Can I download updates from identical pc on my lan instead of having to download updates "twice"09:40
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frevi645Hi! I'm on Intrepid beta and I'm trying to download the kernel source but apt-get complains that it can't check the gnupg signature and therefor quits. Any help? Please?09:57
ActionParsnip!intrepid | frevi64510:02
ubottufrevi645: Alpha Software: Intrepid Ibex is the code name for K/ubuntu 8.10, due October 30th 2008 - #ubuntu+1 for discussion. Kubuntu Intrepid will have KDE 4 as the default Desktop Environment - see  https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuIntrepidVersion | Warning lots of breaking software between now and October!10:02
ActionParsnipfrevi645: like you were told in #ubuntu10:02
frevi645yes, its just that I asked here first sorry10:03
ActionParsnipfrevi645: you are using alpha software which hasnt been released yet, its fairly buggy10:03
frevi645I know10:03
ActionParsnipthen why install it?10:04
frevi645well.... no it's listed as beta on the website10:04
katrinato file bug reports to make things better ;-)10:04
frevi645because I need to test some new wake on lan functionality10:04
frevi645and that10:04
ActionParsnipok, well its your computer10:05
frevi645yes, obviously there is no important data on it :) thanks for your concern ActionParsnip10:05
ActionParsnipnp :D10:06
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Rasputincan i download updates from another pc on my network instead of having to download twice from internet?10:13
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katrinai would imagine if it caches the dowloaded .deb files you could could copy them over and install them, though i dont know for sure, i would imagine that they get deleted once they are installed10:15
ActionParsnip!aptoncd | Rasputin10:15
ubottuRasputin: APTonCD is a tool with a graphical interface which allows you to create one or more CDs or DVDs with all of the packages you've downloaded via apt-get or aptitude, creating a removable repository that you can use on other computers10:15
ActionParsnipRasputin: or you could smbmount the /var/apt/cache folder of the other system as it stores the debs of updates until you run sudo apt-get clean10:16
katrinaah so it does keep them around, thats good to know10:16
ActionParsnipkatrina: yeah its so you dont have to redownload what you already have10:17
ActionParsnipkatrina: its kinda worthless imho as most folks have broadband and stuff but for dialup folks with multiple pcs its a godsend10:17
katrinayeah it seems like a waste of disk space when you have broadband, i wonder if there is a setting in the apt config to turn it off (will look later)10:18
ActionParsnipkatrina: sudo apt-get autoclean10:19
ActionParsnipi think10:19
ActionParsnipyou can configure apt by editing some file10:19
katrinalooks like its in etc/apt/apt.conf.d/20archive10:20
roganhow do i get the visualisers for amarok10:23
ActionParsniprogan: i think its in tools10:25
roganlibvisual is not installed10:27
ActionParsniprogan: get it installed then10:27
lllluser1@desktop1:~$ sudo nano /etc/sudoers10:29
llll>>> sudoers file: syntax error, line 23 <<< sudo: parse error in /etc/sudoers near line 23.          i just inserted    user1 ALL= NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/firestarter   at the end in /etc/sudoers and i think now i cant sudo.. any help ?10:29
ActionParsnipllll: did you add a carridge return on the end of the line?10:34
ActionParsnipllll: and its considered bad ettiquette to ask in loads of rooms10:34
Rasputinwhats going on? is my irc knackered10:35
ActionParsnipRasputin: maybe your connection is flakey10:36
RasputinActionParsnip: probably, where's the file that apt saves the .debs too, can I just tar that up and put it on sd card then untar on other pcs?10:37
ActionParsnipsure10:38
ActionParsnipRasputin: /var/apt/cache10:38
ActionParsnipRasputin: if its wron then try sudo find /var -name *.deb10:38
Rasputinnot there, mind would apt-get clean remove the folder too10:40
ActionParsnipRasputin: no only the contents10:40
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ActionParsnipRasputin: you could always go all out with: cd / && sudo find -name *.deb10:41
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Rasputinzzzzzz10:44
ActionParsnipno news is good news :D10:48
RasputinI need a .deb on my system mind!!    It's in var/cache/apt/archives - that sound right10:50
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ActionParsnipRasputin: sure, you can install individual debs with sudo dpkg -i /path/to/file.deb10:51
NasjHi all10:51
ActionParsniphi nasj10:52
serenityhi10:53
serenityi installed digikam 0.10 out via the repos of intrepid, but there is no marble integration. Any packaged i missed? libmarble and stuff are installed10:53
ActionParsnip!intrepid | serenity10:54
ubottuserenity: Alpha Software: Intrepid Ibex is the code name for K/ubuntu 8.10, due October 30th 2008 - #ubuntu+1 for discussion. Kubuntu Intrepid will have KDE 4 as the default Desktop Environment - see  https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuIntrepidVersion | Warning lots of breaking software between now and October!10:55
serenityActionParsnip: just moved to #kubuntu-kde4 ;)10:55
ActionParsnipcool, intrepid isnt supported in the official rooms10:58
amerigo_hi at all11:25
romancehi all11:25
amerigo_hello11:25
adrian_can I change my nickname?11:25
adrian_or I can only use the administrator name?11:25
krashYou should be able to change your nickname...11:27
Nasjyo krash :P11:27
krashDid you add a user name?11:27
krashYo Nasj :)11:27
krashBeen up all night have ya?11:28
adrian_an username to the OS ?11:29
Nasjnaah11:29
krashadrian_ yeah are you on the live cd or did you install?11:29
adrian_installed11:30
adrian_last night windows pissed me off, and I've installed ubuntu to see how it is11:31
krashadrian_ It should have made a seperate account via your name or something which I suppose you are calling the administrator?11:31
adrian_and.. I like it much :)11:31
krashadrian_ I've been on ubuntu for like a month now hehe :)11:31
adrian_I didn't, this is the only account I've made11:31
adrian_r u still on that ubuntu?11:32
krashadrian_ are you logged in as root? well no, I had to try out the kubuntu beta :)11:32
adrian_:)11:32
adrian_well... sience I'm new to Linux ... I have no ideea what a root means :D11:32
krashbacked up all my stuff, and switched, I like kubuntu colors better hehe11:33
krashthe username you're logged in as, isn't root correct?11:33
adrian_beats me... i've just made the account and logged in to search drivers and stuff11:34
adrian_like beryl11:34
adrian_that impressed me the most11:34
* krash agrees absolutely.11:34
adrian_:)11:34
krashadrian_ well I highly doubt you are logged in as root, which in windows terms would be administrator11:35
krashafk a few gotta shake a tower11:35
adrian_good luck :)11:36
aantipopso no kde3 in intrepid ?11:46
Nasjso krash11:48
NasjI found out that if i use esc i can chose wich device to boot from11:49
Nasj:D11:49
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MitsuoDeshoDeshokubuntu: xine was unable to iniitialize any audio drivers11:54
MitsuoDeshoDeshohow do i fix that?11:55
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GeOcslol11:56
GeOcs./nick does the job11:57
GeOcsI've just listened music with Amarok player, and suddenly it became grey and I had to force quit it.11:58
GeOcsnow it wont start11:58
GeOcsand no sound from any other player or movie player will come11:59
aantipopmaybe its still running in background11:59
aantipoptry to kill it11:59
GeOcscan anyone tell me what is the problem? it is fixable?11:59
GeOcslike, from task manager?11:59
aantipopyeah..or in the terminal11:59
GeOcscan u please teach me how?12:00
MitsuoDeshoDeshoum.. i've just update to the new kernel and rebootes. xine wont recognize audio drivers12:00
MitsuoDeshoDeshorebooted*12:00
krashNasj: ahh yeah mine's f8 nice though :)12:13
Nasji tried booting other HDD it blinked for a bit12:13
Nasjand the switched to my other hdd12:13
Nasjsearching for OS12:13
Nasjxd12:13
krashNasj: Yeah it won't unless you have something in it's MBR to boot12:14
Nasjbut can i partition my storage HDD with the kubuntu installaition ?12:14
krashNasj: Yeah12:14
Nasjis there high risk of data loss ?12:14
krashNasj: Very low risk actually12:14
krashNasj: I've never lost any and I've dual booted for ever now12:15
Nasjok12:15
Nasjso in the installation12:15
Nasji can pick 25gig of my storage hd to partition and install kubuntu in ?12:15
krashNasj: it'll ask you if you want to use the entire disk, don't do that...12:16
Nasjno thats obvious xD12:16
Nasj:P12:16
nelnelhi12:16
krashNasj: Yep, you'll get to manually partition it I still prefer reiserfs but ext3 is good too I guess12:17
Nasjok12:17
Nasjdownloading CD now :)12:17
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krashNice which one you downloading? 8.04 or the beta?12:17
NasjKubuntu 8.04 - Featuring the mature KDE 3 and supported until October 200912:18
krashhi nelnel12:18
Nasj:D12:18
Nasjtaht one12:18
GeOcswho knows how to install steam & cs, css & cz on ubuntu? (-:12:18
krashNasj: Hehe I was using Ubuntu 8.04 untill I hopped to kubuntu 8.10 beta :P12:18
Nasjok12:19
Nasjdifference between ubutnu and kubuntu is KDE and Gnome right ?12:19
krashNasj: pretty much yeah but when I used ubuntu I still installed kde and used it too12:20
Nasjwhats the major difference between gnome and kde ?12:20
Nasjkde more user friendly ?12:20
Tm_TNasj: more feature rich, more configurable, more flexible etc etc12:21
Nasjok12:21
Tm_TNasj: in my books all that is more user friendly yes12:21
Nasjok good :D12:22
RasputinI'm back - with regards copying apt/cache to another pc.... I tried "sudo tar -cvzf apt-update.tar.gz /var/cache/apt/archives" and then copied to SD card - took to another machine and "tar -C / -zxvf apt-update.tar.gz" but get an error, is that wrong?12:22
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katrinaRasputin: whats the error?12:40
Rasputininvalid compressed data--format violated ..... the SD card is vfat would that corrupt it?12:41
ubuntoil!bot12:44
ubottuHi! I'm #kubuntu's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://tinyurl.com/5zfb6t - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots12:44
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ActionParsnipRasputin: you could make an iso of it then run fsck on the sd card12:46
toborHi all, just moved a pair of SATA disks to a new box (disks have a kubuntu install on them)  on boot the mouse isn't getting picked up.  Is there a Kubuntu equivalent for Kudzu? to reset the hardware configurstion?12:46
ActionParsnip!info kudzu12:47
ubottuPackage kudzu does not exist in hardy12:47
ActionParsniptobor: try sudo modprobe mousedev12:48
toborthanks!12:48
ActionParsniptobor: is it just a usb mouse or is it something fancier?12:49
toborhmmmm,  FATAL: Module mousedev not found.12:49
toborless fancy.  normal pd2 connected mouse12:49
tobor*ps212:49
toborand when I boot the ide drive (that has RedHat 7.2!! on it ) the mouse is fine..12:50
tobor(RedHat 7.2 from the Pre-enterprise RedHat days... :-) )12:51
ActionParsniptobor: ok so its a ps2 mouse thats cool12:51
ActionParsniplet e webbrowse12:51
ActionParsniptobor: can i see your /etc/X11/xorg.conf please12:52
ActionParsnip!paste | tobor12:52
ubottutobor: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)12:52
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eagle_hi, is here someone who can help me bringing my intel ac 97 soundcard back to work? it worked well before the update, but now alsa doesn't find the card...?12:55
ActionParsnipeagle_: did you update to intrepid?12:55
toborActionParsnip: note - the first time i booted thissetup the mouse worked fine, the second  time I booted it, I got a message that /dev/disk/by-uuid/<mess o' digits> was missing and itdropped into busybox.12:55
toborActionParsnip: Am rebooting to a diff hardware config right now.12:56
eagle_sorry, to what?12:56
LjL^eagle_: to the beta version of ubuntu, 8.1012:56
ActionParsniptobor: thats because the UID of the disk will be different in the new system when you hauled it across12:56
eagle_i think not. i updated as usual with the adept update manager to the kernel version 2.6.24-2112:57
ActionParsnipeagle_: you may need to setup your sound agin for the new kernel12:57
eagle_i tried, but i had no success. the needed module is not be loaded, so i tried with modprobe which told me that the module doesn't exist12:59
toborActionParsnip: anyway to get around that?13:01
RasputinActionParsnip: the card did corrupt that tar, I ended up sharing it via my NAS on debian - seems to have worked. cheers13:01
ActionParsniptobor: i think you need to recalculate the UID somehow13:01
toborActionParsnip: hmm.13:01
* tobor longs for the days when all disks were called /dev/sd<n> (BSD 4.2) 13:02
ActionParsniptobor: they are, i personally dont know what this uid stuff is, you could backup the old fstab and have it without just to test13:03
toborActionParsnip: OK, looks like i may have a deep hardware issue, removing the ATA controller card (Highpoint technologies) from the system and booting RH7.2 everything works fine.13:03
Nasjso13:04
Nasjjust donwload the CD13:04
Nasjdownloaded*13:04
ActionParsniptobor: but that has a different fstab surely?13:04
toborActionParsnip: yes.. AND - No SATA drives, AND plugged the ide drives back in.13:05
ActionParsnipNasj: md5 check the image you downloaded to make sure its ok13:05
Nasjhow ?13:06
ActionParsniptobor: extra drives may more the drive numbers around for grub13:06
ActionParsnip!md5 | Nasj13:06
ubottuNasj: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows13:06
Nasjthankyou13:07
toborActionParsnip: heh, RH7.2 is back from the days RH used LILO... :-)  just booting it for a sanity check.13:07
ActionParsnipNasj: if its incorrect you will need to redownload13:07
ActionParsniptobor: it uses lilo by default, ubuntu can use lilo if you like13:07
toborActionParsnip: now testing RH7.2 with the SATA card plugged in13:07
NasjActionParsnip i only got the iso13:09
Nasjwhere do i get the md5sum he has to check it iwth13:09
ActionParsnipNasj: well go get the md5 from the same place you pulled the iso from13:09
toborActionParsnip: RH7.2 w/ SATA card booted fine, now trying with 1 SATA drive powered up and plugged in13:10
ActionParsniptobor: how big is your psu?13:10
NasjActionParsnip: http://www.kubuntu.org/getkubuntu/download I cant find it13:10
toborActionParsnip: 300W I think13:11
toborwill verify13:11
ActionParsniptobor: id add up what you are trying to power, it might not be enough13:11
ActionParsniptobor: did you get the kde4 iso?13:11
toborActionParsnip: hmmmm, label says "MAX Load: 300W"13:11
toborI took whateverthe default was, so I dont think I have kde413:12
ActionParsnipNasj: did you get the remix iso with kde4?13:12
ActionParsniptobor: wrong target, sorry13:12
ActionParsnipNasj: http://whyamistilltyping.wordpress.com/2008/04/24/ubuntu-804-md5-checksums/13:13
ActionParsnipNasj: use a tool to calculate the hash then compare it to the relevant line on that site13:14
regitalhey13:23
divinesouli have a problem with my sound after i upgraded my kernel version to 2.6.24-21 now i have lost all my sound can anyone help me13:23
regitalkmix?13:24
regitaldivinesoul: have you tried kmix?13:24
divinesoulactually i am on ubuntu13:25
regitalhave you tried asking #ubuntu?13:25
divinesoulbut they said someone had a same kind a problem over here in kubuntu13:25
regitalah ok13:25
divinesoulso i thought i could get some help over here13:25
divinesoulit is driving me nuts13:26
regitali heard theres a way to copy text by just highlighting it... how do i do that?13:26
divinesoulselect the text and press enter once and then paste it13:27
lexa__Всем привет13:28
lexa__Нужна помощь13:28
lexa__Привет, люди13:29
lexa__Кто устанавливал драйвер на Creative SB Xtreme Gamer?13:29
divinesoulguys anyone home13:32
CyDregital: you click the middle mouse button to paste selected text13:32
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Nasjoops13:45
Nasjsorry about that13:45
Nasj <CyD> regital: you click the middle mouse button to paste selected text13:46
Nasjwas just testing13:46
CyD:)13:46
regitalno i mean JUST by highlighting the text...13:51
IcyPolecathi there, anyone know how to force Kubuntu (KDE4.1) to remember my DNS servers between sessions? It remembers ok at home but at work they always come up blank. tia13:57
Pensacolahow come new opened apps (like smplayer wich uses qt4) don't follow the color scheme I've set in preferences?14:01
Pensacolakde4.1.2 btw :)14:02
Pensacolathey wll accept it if I change color schemes when the app is open14:02
EnsaRKubuntu new surum add code?14:03
bakoorahi14:06
MurielGodoiHi all, any1 noticed that "Window specific settings" is not considering opacity?14:16
JuJuBeeHow to I tell nfs to use tcp rather than udp?14:27
BluesKajhowdy14:30
jackson_hello14:34
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pepejoin /#test14:55
eagles0513875 y for some reason with any other kernel besides 16 the x server doesnt want to work for me14:55
eagles0513875[15:51] <eagles0513875> i cant load kde14:55
eagles0513875[15:52] <eagles0513875> i end up on cli only14:55
eagles0513875i was told i need to reinstall kubuntu-desktop14:56
eagles0513875if i do does that whipe out my kde4 desktop that i have setup in conjunction with kde314:56
zer0o hi how can i see my ip?14:58
eagles0513875zer0o: ifconfig in terminal14:58
zer0othanks14:59
eagles0513875no prob14:59
Nasjkrash: you here ?15:11
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HexagownHello guys15:19
webashi..any ideas how to play .ape formats? ( music )15:19
HexagownNo, I'm New with Linux, but if its possible it use to work to start the media player with that file and it i'll download apps for it15:20
Hexagownand u can also try sudo apt-get update15:20
Hexagownat konsole15:20
geniiwebas: Perhaps see http://aidanjm.wordpress.com/2007/02/04/converting-monkey%E2%80%99s-audio-ape-files-to-flac-in-ubuntu/15:21
webasi will go try thanks genii15:21
HexagownSomeone els having issues trying to install Skype?15:24
HexagownNvm, got it working now :D15:25
manishi am trying to subscribe to a usenet site "news://freetext.usenetserver.com/" but firefox gives a dialogue box saying choose an application. I want to set "Pan" as my default application for opening or subscribing to newsgroups. How to I do that. how to find the exe file in kbuntu15:27
Hexagownexe isent a Linux format...15:28
manishso how do i choose an application in kubuntu15:28
eagles0513875!ape15:28
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about ape15:28
eagles0513875!multimedia | webas15:29
ubottuwebas: Ubuntu 7.04 installs multimedia codecs automatically. For older versions of Ubuntu, or if you can't use the automatic installer, see https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - For multimedia applications, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications15:29
eagles0513875webas: check out those links15:29
HexagownIm not sure, Im new with Linux, all I know is that You need Wine to start exe files.15:29
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eagles0513875Hexagown: that is correct15:29
eagles0513875!wine | manish15:29
ubottumanish: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.15:29
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webasi installed few decoders of .ape and tried to convert..but with errors..i also reade that somehow to burn it to cd might be easier way..but k3b needs some stuff to handle .cue15:31
manishi dont want to use windows program15:32
HexagownYey, first time iv helped out here :D Allready love it ;)15:33
manishi did "which pan" in terminal and found the path to the program but the server did not list itself as a subscription how do i suscribe to the newsgroup15:33
jmonhello, is there a twitter client for ubuntu?15:37
manishjmon: check the "sameplace extention for firefox it works with most of the IM Services15:39
manishplease some body tell me how do i add sites mentioned in www.dmoz.com in my "pan newsreader"15:42
IcyPolecatjmon: gwibber is quite good. If you're running KDE4 then install the plasma fun pack to get a widget or in firefox use the twitkit sidebar15:45
Rioting_pacifist!atheros15:52
ubottuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs15:52
arkygeekHi everyone.  I have installed 8.04 and then FreeNX Server.  However, when I attempt to connect to it, it can't start a kde session... any ideas?  I think it is looking for kde3 and I installed the kde4 ver15:53
NasjAnyone know how I MD5 the Kubuntu 8.04 iso ?15:56
NasjMD% check*15:56
NasjMD5*15:56
NasjxD15:56
arkygeekNasj: k3b should do it automatically iirc15:59
Nasj??15:59
NasjDidn't get any of that15:59
arkygeek!google15:59
ubottugoogle is the helpers' friend; many newer users dont have the google-fu yet; For GNU/Linux:  http://google.com/linux15:59
genii!md516:01
ubottuTo verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows16:01
manishi have the addressess of news servers ending in.htm but dont know the nntp adderssess of the same how do i find that or how do i add them to my newsreader16:03
lucianohello guys16:08
lucianoi need to download debian, can anyone tech me how to do that?16:08
lucianoneed help donloading debian please16:09
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geniiluciano: Try http://www.debian.org/CD/16:11
GeOcswhy does my mouse move in the center of every folder I open ?16:12
GeOcswhat the hek did I activate?16:12
GeOcsi'ts kinda anoying16:13
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Nasjgenii16:19
Nasjthe problem is i cant find a checksum for it :S16:19
geniiNasj: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes16:20
Nasjaah thankyou :D16:20
geniinp16:20
lucianotx16:23
lucianoguys, i downloaded an app called jigdo16:23
lucianodo u know how to uninstall it?16:23
scriptxhow did you install it?16:24
lucianovia terminal16:24
lucianoapt-get16:24
scriptxapt-get remove <packagename>16:25
lucianotx a lot16:25
lucianoi have another question16:27
lucianosomebody threw away a pentium III 500 with 156 of ram and a VGA16:27
lucianothose r the minimum requirements to run ubuntu16:27
lucianobut, will ubuntu run properly???16:27
lucianoor maybe too slow16:28
lucianotoo many people going in and out16:29
lucianoany way to disable the join and left script?16:30
GeOcsif u're using konversation16:31
GeOcslook in Settings / Configure notifications16:31
lucianoand what do i do inside configure notidication?16:32
GeOcsa nick left the channel16:34
GeOcsand16:34
GeOcsnew nick joined the channel16:34
lucianodo i put the piece of papaer on the left or i dont?16:34
GeOcsturn off all16:35
lucianodone16:35
lucianotx16:35
lucianonow, can i install ubuntu in a pentium III 500 with 256 of ram?16:36
GeOcswell, either it didn't worked, or i have to do that to every chanell16:36
GeOcsdidn't worked :)16:36
lucianono it didn't16:37
GeOcsdunno dude, I'm using ubuntu from yesterday ... my mouse it's moving by it's own16:37
GeOcsso anoying16:37
lucianotaht's weird16:37
lucianowhat happens to your mouse?16:37
GeOcscompiz-fuzion messed it up16:38
GeOcsand i don't know how to repair it :)16:38
lucianoi have no clue what you r talking about16:39
GeOcscompiz it's a cool program16:40
GeOcshere, let me show you16:40
GeOcsw816:40
GeOcshttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtNBZA980R816:40
amerigosomeone can explame why (or the possibly reason) that my kubuntu at each reboot lost connection information???16:44
geniiluciano: To answer your question a P3 with 256Mb of ram will be fine16:46
eagles0513875how do i have konversation auto identify me16:56
eagles0513875!autoidentify16:56
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about autoidentify16:56
eagles0513875!identify16:56
ubottuYou can identify automatically by using your NickServ password as the server password in your IRC client. When identifying manually, do NOT send the command from a channel's tab, or a typo may give away your password. If that happened, type « /msg NickServ set password <new-password> » in the server tab as soon as possible.16:56
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eagles0513875!identify16:58
eagles0513875the bots broken16:58
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lantjiehey guys how are you doin?16:59
lantjiei want to ask how i play trainsignal videos on ubuntu17:00
lantjieyou know flash player etc17:00
eagles0513875!flash17:01
ubottuTo install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (a recent version for !Dapper is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash17:01
eagles0513875lantjie: does that help any17:01
geniilantjie: xine   see http://forums.trainsignal.com/showthread.php?t=12017:02
eagles0513875genii: hey how do i auto identify on konversation it doesnt seem to be working for me17:02
geniieagles0513875: Server List...Edit...Default Identity - Edit ... Bottom says:Auto Identify     put into text window 1    nickserv   into window 2     <yourpassword>17:04
eagles0513875genii: do i need to close out completely out of konvo and come back in cuz even if i disconnect from this channel completely and connect to it again its not working says no such nick/channel17:05
eagles0513875and when i identify manually it works17:05
geniieagles0513875: Probably17:06
eagles0513875genii: ok brb17:06
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lantjieeh guys thanx17:15
helpthisnoobiehi everyone17:17
helpthisnoobieis there a way to run the gnome desktop on kubuntu17:18
helpthisnoobieyet still keep kde17:18
lantjiehey guys i have another question: kan i play trainsignal training videos on ubuntu or i must play them in  windows17:18
lantjie?17:18
helpthisnoobieplz help17:20
en1gmasup all17:21
en1gmai run ubuntu and am looking for QT in synaptic.....what is QT called17:22
michielvhelpthisnoobie, yes it's possible but I don't know how, if you google for it you will find the answer17:23
helpthisnoobielet me try see what I can find17:23
helpthisnoobiethanx michielv17:23
michielvno problem17:23
DarthFrogGood morning folks.17:25
JudauHello17:25
DarthFrogWhere does Kubuntu store information about X?  /etc/X11/xorg.conf doesn't seem to be anything I recognise anymore.17:25
amerigo someone can explame why (or the possibly reason) that my kubuntu at each reboot lost connection information???17:25
amerigokubuntu hardy 8.0417:25
JudauI ran an update last night, and now my USB headset only gets sound generated by kubuntu, but no sound from any applications17:25
Judauany ideas?17:26
DarthFrogJudau: Don't you just love regressions?  File a bug report on that one, please.17:26
lantjie#ubuntu17:27
amerigoJudau: System >> Sound17:27
DarthFrogJudau: It sounds like the sound server has been reconfigured, or is not running.17:27
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michielvhelpthisnoobie: http://www.watchingthenet.com/switch-between-gnome-and-kde-desktops-in-ubuntu-or-kubuntu.html17:27
amerigodefault setting17:27
amerigoclose and retry17:27
Judaumy headset is at the top of the device preference list17:27
Judauactually17:28
Judaui have 2 copies of everything17:28
DarthFrogJudau: Does all sound come out the speakers properly?17:28
DarthFrogamerigo: Check /etc/network/interfaces and see if the info there is correct.17:29
Judauyes17:29
DarthFrogJudau: So it's just your headphones?17:29
Judauusb headset17:29
Judaulike when i start up kubuntu I hear those noises17:29
helpthisnoobiethanx michielv17:30
Judauand same when i maximize a window17:30
Judaui just don't hear anything from apps on my headset17:30
DarthFrogWhat about once the desktop is up and running?17:30
helpthisnoobietaking a look at that site now17:30
Judausystem noises i hear in my headset.  Like the sound that plays when i maximize a window17:30
DarthFrogJudau: Well, the only thing I'd have to suggest would be to play around with the sound server in System Settings.17:31
helpthisnoobiei thought u might be able to rum them on the same session...I guess not17:33
amerigo!paste17:33
ubottupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)17:33
helpthisnoobiewell looks like kde is more xp-like17:33
helpthisnoobiegnome looks more like win9817:33
amerigoDarthFrog: http://paste.ubuntu.com/58416/17:34
amerigothis i've got17:34
DarthFroghelpthisnoobie:  Superficially, yes.  But it has a *lot* more under the hood.  It's much more configurable than Gnome.17:34
eagles0513875!ot | helpthisnoobie17:34
ubottuhelpthisnoobie: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!17:34
eagles0513875helpthisnoobie: also kde is better developed17:34
DarthFrogamerigo: There's nothing there for eth0.17:34
amerigoDarthFrog: infact17:34
amerigobut i've chaged in system >> admin17:35
amerigohave you some example17:35
amerigo??17:35
helpthisnoobieyeah I can see that17:35
helpthisnoobieI was wanting to give gnome a try....the more I learn the better17:35
DarthFrogamerigo: Add the following two lines to that file:17:36
helpthisnoobiei just got into linux about 3 months ago17:36
DarthFrogiface eth0 inet dynamic17:36
DarthFrogauto eth017:36
helpthisnoobietrying to learn as much as I can17:36
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geniidhcp   I think and not   dynamic     for that eth0 entry17:37
helpthisnoobieok how do i find out what version of kde i have17:37
DarthFroghelpthisnoobie: It doesn't matter which desktop environment you choose, but my suggestion is to spend your time learning only one at the start.17:37
DarthFroggenii: Thanks, I couldn't remember whether it was supposed to be dhcp or dynamic.  Since mine says static, .... :-)17:38
amerigoDarthFrog: if i want a 192.186.x.x static?17:39
amerigoDarthFrog: http://paste.ubuntu.com/58422/ this may be correct?17:41
DarthFrogamerigo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/58425/ contains my interfaces file that sets a static IP.17:42
helpthisnoobiethanx DarthFrog17:43
amerigothen: sudo /etc/network/interfaces restart ????17:43
DarthFrogamerigo: Works for me. :-)17:43
DarthFrogamerigo: Sorry, I've not finished coffee yet.  I'm wrong!17:44
DarthFrogamerigo: sudo /etc/init.d/network restart17:44
DarthFrog:-)17:44
amerigothanks17:44
amerigovery very17:44
DarthFrogamerigo: sudo /etc/init.d/networkING restart17:44
DarthFrogOops. :-)17:44
DarthFrogThe blood level in my coffee system is too high!17:45
amerigothank i'm going to do "vi"17:45
DarthFrogvi rocks.17:45
amerigostill here?17:47
chimera_list17:47
DarthFrogAnyway, does anyone have an answer to my question about where X configuration is hiding these days?17:48
amerigoDarthFrog: a question: but init.d isn't a part of samba?17:48
amerigoDarthFrog: i was believe that17:48
DarthFrogNope.  Part of your basic system.  It contains all the startup scripts that might be used.17:49
Mr-SX configuration: what do you mean by that exactly ?17:49
DarthFrogMr-S: /etc/X11/xorg.conf doesn't contain any info about which server to use, etc. anymore.17:49
amerigoDarthFrog: so with init.d i can start all the process?17:49
DarthFrogamerigo: Have a look at the README file in /etc/rc2.d17:50
amerigoDarthFrog: okky17:50
Mr-Sxorg.conf only stores the setting for X. What do you mean by servers ?17:50
DarthFrogMr-S: How do I check & change which xorg-xserver is used?17:51
DarthFrogIt's not done in xorg.conf anymore.17:51
Mr-Sthere is only one xorg server in use. Are you using dual screen perhaps ? Or Do you mean tty sessions ?17:52
dwidmannDarthFrog: you can still describe it there ... it's just generating the conf on the fly.17:53
dwidmannDarthFrog: look up bulletproof x for more details, I think.17:53
DarthFrogdwidmann: Thanks!  That's the pointer I needed. :-)17:54
amitshahhow to install vlc player17:55
bazhangsudo apt-get install vlc17:55
amitshahi tried but not working17:55
DarthFrogMr-S: No.  I want to verify that the non-free Nvidia xorg-server is actually being used.  VMWare is bitching that I don't have a graphics card that it recognises and disables 3D rendering.  I wish to enable 3D rendering in VMWare Workstation virtual machines.17:55
bazhangwhat error amitshah17:55
DarthFrog!bulletproofx17:56
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about bulletproofx17:56
DarthFrog!bulletproof17:56
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about bulletproof17:56
DarthFrog:-(17:56
amitshahamitshah@amitshah-laptop:~$ sudo apt-get install vlc17:56
amitshahReading package lists... Done17:56
amitshahBuilding dependency tree17:56
amitshahReading state information... Done17:56
amitshahE: Couldn't find package vlc17:56
amitshahamitshah@amitshah-laptop:~$17:56
DarthFrogamitshah: apt-cache search vlc17:56
DarthFrogand it's probably called vlc-player or some such.17:56
bazhangwhat about apt-cache search vlc17:56
bazhangoops17:56
Mr-SThanks for the info. Open teh xorg.conf file and locate the graphics card section. By "driver" what does it say ? nvidia or nv ?17:56
DarthFrogMr-S: That's the point.  It no longer says anything about that.17:57
bazhangamitshah, probably the repo for it is not enabled17:57
bazhang!info vlc17:57
ubottuvlc (source: vlc): multimedia player and streamer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 0.8.6.release.e+x264svn20071224+faad2.6.1-0ubuntu3.2 (hardy), package size 1113 kB, installed size 3228 kB17:57
amitshahmeans17:57
amerigoDarthFrog: thank you sir ... more clear now17:57
bazhangamitshah, open adept17:57
DarthFrogamerigo: You're welcome.17:57
bazhangand enable multiverse17:57
Mr-SOK that is strange. I am afraid, i cannot help you out right away. sorry m817:58
amitshahok then17:58
bazhangthen hit reload17:58
DarthFrogMr-S: Have a read of your xorg.conf file and see if it would help you any in tracking down problems. :-)17:59
aleksi_hey this isn't relly about kubuntu but how do i ghet irssi work? i runned it in konsole and  i see time and status but i don't know what to do to  conneckt irc18:00
nejode_DarthFrog, Mr-s: VMWare uses a virtual graphic card18:00
DarthFrognejode_: The newest version of VMWare allows virtual machines to do 3D rendering.18:00
DarthFrogFinally. :-)18:01
DarthFrogIt also allows you to set the # of processors a virtual machine can use.18:01
DarthFrogVMWare 6.5 is nice.  I love the Unity feature.18:02
nejode_DarthFrog: but it doesn't use the host's graphic card18:02
DarthFrognejode_: Well, it does.  The virtual machine doesn't have direct hardware access, though.18:02
DarthFrognejode_: I don't know what the performance is like but until I get VMWare to recognise that my Nvidia 7300 card is actually 3D capable, I'm stymied.18:03
DarthFrogThis is a new feature in VMWare.18:04
nejode_...does it recognise your nVidia card?18:04
nejode_...workstation, server or player?18:05
DarthFrognejode_: It merely reports that it's disabling 3D rendering as my system doesn't have a 3D capable card it recognises.  I expect that to be the case if I were running the nv driver but not the nvidia driver..  Workstation.18:06
Mr-SOK did some research. looks like Vmaware is not able to use the real drivers, and will only use the software rendering driver. In other words, vmware seems unable to connect to your nvidia card. wired ...18:07
nejode_DarthFrog: I tried the eval. version of workstation and it never did recognise my graphics card...18:08
nejode_...one nVidia and 1 onboard INTEL18:08
DarthFrogMr-S: Thanks!  I should have done that myself, but I hadn't gotten to that point yet.  Reading the manual is the last resort, of course. :-)18:09
JudauI fixed the problem by reinstalling the sound related packages18:10
Judauthanks for the help18:10
DarthFrogMr-S: If it only does software rendering, then it's no good for gaming, darn it.  Which is about the last reason that I keep WinXP around.18:10
dwidmannI don't think the linux nvidia driver supports directx anyway ... that's probably a major roadblock.18:11
Mr-SGaming in vmware will not be much fun. Try installing wine or cross-over office to play windows games on Linux.18:11
DarthFrognejode_: It sounds like the 3D rendering feature is still immature.  Which presents hope that VMWare is working on it and future versions will be better. (crossed fingers)18:12
don_jr_KSI'm using Kubuntu HH on my laptop here with a broadcom onboard wireless card and it appears that I lose my connection about every 5 mins, then comes right back.  Is there a reason for this or a way I can fix it?18:12
DarthFrogMr-S:  I had a Cedega subscription for a while but I've never really been satisfied with it.18:12
Judauwhat are you trying to play?18:12
Mr-SIts not perfect. The issue is Direct X, wich is hard on linux18:13
DarthFrogdwidmann: I was wondering about that.  I figure they must be mapping DirectX onto OpenGL.  But that's a guess.18:13
Mr-Sno its not mapping. DirectX is completly different from openGL18:13
black_hello all18:13
dwidmannhnm, maybe18:14
DarthFrogJudau: Civ Beyond The Sword.18:14
black_french don't want to help me18:14
dwidmann!broadcom | don_jr_KS18:14
ubottudon_jr_KS: Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Broadcom43xx18:14
black_so I will talke my help in english18:14
black_sorry18:14
dwidmannblack_: to get help with something you must first ask a question ... hehehe18:14
black_dwidmann:  yes :)18:14
don_jr_KSThank, I'm mistaken, it's a realtech.  It appears to work fine, just keeps disconnecting and reconnection.  But the status bars don't show the disconnect.  But all downloads and websites stop working.18:15
black_i know it, don't worry18:15
black_dwidmann: in the example of my problem, can I name Url ?18:15
black_or is it forbidden18:15
dwidmannblack_: sure18:15
black_?18:15
black_ok thankls18:15
DarthFrogMr-S: Well, perhaps mapping was the wrong term to use.  Translating, perhaps?  Somehow they've got to implement the DirectX API in OpenGL.18:16
don_jr_KSEven Adept stops working...I can't get many updates when they get stopped in the middle of download...very agitating18:16
Mr-Sits like apples and pears ...... :(18:16
Mr-SdirectX has differnt setup... thats why wine,cega etc .. are in need of the windows DLLs18:17
black_When i go to skyrock chat, I need to install flash player, but it don't success anymore, and when I go to voila chat, I need to install Java, but it d'ont sucess too !18:17
black_why and how can I do18:17
DarthFrogdon_jr_KS: It's like the dancing dog.  It's not so much that it dances badly, the wonder is that it dances at all. :-)18:17
dwidmannblack_: do java and flash work for other things?18:17
don_jr_KSDarthFrog so it's just a flaw in the card setup and I"m stuck wtih it? lol18:17
black_i use Ubuntu 8.04, it seems to have many bugs18:17
black_dwidmann:  i think no, not sure, I just get Ubuntu, and principal activities is chatting18:18
DarthFrogdon_jr_KS: It could be the wireless router, too.18:18
don_jr_KSblack_ to get java and flash to work here I had to manually download and dpkg the .deb files.18:18
DarthFrog!flash18:18
ubottuTo install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (a recent version for !Dapper is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash18:18
DarthFrog!java18:18
ubottuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre or sun-java6-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu !Dapper18:18
dwidmann!flash18:18
black_don_jr_KS: i use java for voila.fr, and flash for skyrock.fr18:19
dwidmannwait, I missed that darth had already done that ... hehe18:19
don_jr_KSDarthFrog it's not, it's Kubuntu's setup.  FC9 works fine and doesn't have this problem.  But I like ubuntus community better so I switched back after HH came out.18:19
DarthFrogblack_: you need the Java Runtime Environment (i.e. JRE).18:19
don_jr_KSblack_ I'm a bit new to linux as a whole, are those websites?  If so what browser are you using? You'll need the flash and java plugins for that browser18:19
DarthFrogdon_jr_KS: It's a good time to file a bug report, then. :-)18:19
black_thks ubottu18:19
dwidmann!bot | black18:20
ubottublack: Hi! I'm #kubuntu's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://tinyurl.com/5zfb6t - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots18:20
don_jr_KSDarthFrog will do.  Wasn't sure if it was an already known problem that could be taken care of or not.  Thanks.18:20
Mr-SBy the way... i figured out how to get root access on the latest ubuntu ....18:20
Walrussehello everyone ! anybody using Kubuntu Intrepid Beta and having issues with qt4 theme ? It changed lately solving a problem, but it creates another one (checkbox are now way too big)18:20
DarthFrogdon_jr_KS: It might well be a known problem, I don't know.  But it's worth your checking.18:20
don_jr_KSMr-S are they trying to make that harder to do now?18:20
Mr-Syep ...18:21
DarthFrogMr-S: sudo su - && passwd18:21
dwidmannoh? Something changing with regards to sudo in intrepid?18:21
Mr-Syeah took me a while to figure it out... cannt live without root account.18:21
jussi01DarthFrog: please dont recomend sudo su18:21
don_jr_KSMr-S didn't know, I have/had FF kubuntu and this is the first full dist upgrade I"ve downloaded and installed.18:22
jussi01DarthFrog: in future sudo or sudo -i18:22
DarthFrogjussi01: Why ever not?  That's how to enable the root account.18:22
dwidmannDarthFrog: sudo -s or sudo -i18:22
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dwidmannDarthFrog: if all you want is a root shell18:22
Mr-Si have been distro jumping a lot, kubuntu is a playground i like, bit will still be my second OS18:22
don_jr_KSThey don't like us having access to root....might make mistakes and have to reinstall...lol18:22
DarthFrogdwidmann: No.  Mr-S was wanting to enable the root account,  Not just a shell.18:23
don_jr_KSMr-S what OS do you prefer?18:23
jussi01!supportroot | DarthFrog18:23
ubottuDarthFrog: We don't support a root password so don't suggest one unless you are going to be here 24/7 to help someone who has problems as a result of having one, many thanks ;-)18:23
Mr-Sslackware18:23
DarthFrogHehe.  OK.18:23
don_jr_KSNever heard of slackware18:24
don_jr_KSanother flavor of a *nix OS? or totally diff?18:24
geniidon_jr_KS: another *nix18:24
Mr-Si like the easy use of kubuntu a lot ...18:24
DarthFrogdon_jr_KS: Slack is one of the earliest Linux distros.  It was the first one that I managed to get installed in 1994.18:25
don_jr_KSYeah...the ease and similarity to winblows(which is all I really know) is why I use KDE with ubuntu and even FC9.  I dispise windows OS Vista is just humiliating.18:25
Mr-SDarthFrog ... your my hero ! :)18:25
DarthFrogLOL!18:25
don_jr_KSSo I"m going to learn to use which ever *nix OS I like the most after I'm done testing them.  So Far Kubuntu's community is much friendlier and more helpfull than the others I've tried.18:25
DarthFrogdon_jr_KS: FYI, *nix means Unix generically.  Not Linux.18:26
Mr-Swhat do you like especially about ubuntu ?18:26
don_jr_KSUp to this point I've been able to get kubuntu to do everything that I want/need.18:26
WalrusseI just forgot to be clear in my first post: the issue is checkboxes, radio buttons, in Firefox within Kubuntu18:27
don_jr_KSDarthFrog forgive my noobishness...didn't realize there was much of a difference.18:27
DarthFrogi.e Solaris, BSD, SysV, Irix, Dynamix, Hockey Pux. :-)18:27
Walrusseit seems qtCurve theme was used before, now it's Oxygen in Intrepid18:27
Mr-SBSD .. mhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh :)18:27
DarthFrogHockey Pux = HP Unix.18:27
don_jr_KSMr-S Mainly the extensive community and help.  The site and even google offers quite a bit on ubuntu in general, and folks here are nice enough to help.18:27
Mr-Syiour absolutly right about that.18:28
don_jr_KSI need simplicity for the time being.  I'll get into the technicals later.18:28
dwidmann#kubuntu ftw :)18:28
don_jr_KSSoon as it appears.  I've gotten everything going that I wanted on here so far...accept getting my cell to synce, but I work on that one later, found a decent site explaining it.18:28
Walrusseand Oxygen theme's buttons are fine within Gimp for example, but are way too big in Firefox18:29
Mr-Syour migh be wondering now, bit ubuntu is harder for me to setup than any distro else ( at least for my needs )18:29
dwidmannWalrusse: I'm assuming sooner or later that won't be an issue ... a lot of work has already taken place on qt-firefox :)18:29
don_jr_KSFor someone that's use to one way, learning a new one is sometimes harder.  That's my problem with vista18:29
don_jr_KSthey've made it so simple it confuses me....not to mention half the drivers won't work with it....lol18:30
don_jr_KSI had to get away from it....so here I am18:30
Walrussedwidmann: maybe, but it has been an issue since Hardy, and it was never solved in the distribution itself18:30
don_jr_KSAnd I code in java and learning C++ so this environment is much smother to code in18:30
Mr-Simho ubuntu is the windows on linux. And this is a good thing18:30
jussi01!ot18:31
ubottu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!18:31
DarthFrogdon_jr_KS: I've heard many others say that Linux is a better development platform.18:31
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don_jr_KSDarthFrog it deffinatly is.  it's built for it.18:31
Servawhy people on other channels are not as friendly as they're here on #kubuntu18:31
Walrussediwdmann: I'm just looking for a way to make this clear somewhere in Launchpad, but since the release is coming fast, I'm looking for the right project to submit a bug too18:31
Walrusseoops, "to"18:31
don_jr_KSServa they have forgotten what it's like to be new to the enironment18:31
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ServaI was asked to leave the channel for asking a beginner question18:32
Serva:-(18:32
DarthFrogServa: That's not inappropriate if the channel was not intended for beginners.18:32
geniiServa: We are usually very tolerant in here. After all, everyone was new once.18:33
black_nothing work18:33
DarthFroggenii: And that this channel is specifically for beginner support, amongst others.18:33
black_no chat work expected Irc18:33
geniiDarthFrog: Yup18:33
nor_hi, mal ne frage zur verschlüsselung. Was ist sinnvoller/sicherer: 1. per alternate-boot-cd verschlüsseln 2. cryptsetup + LUKS 3. verschlüsseltes LVM?18:33
* Serva wonders what it is like to be a beginner among the *informed* 18:33
black_I installed JAva and flash many times but nothing work18:33
black_are you sure there are no bugs in 8.04 version of ubuntu ?18:34
jussi01!de | nor18:34
ubottunor: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de18:34
chfwiggum!hardware18:34
ubottuFor lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection18:34
don_jr_KSMan this is annoying.  my torrents, keep dropping all connections and having to rebuild connections...18:34
DarthFrognor_: Sorry, English only.18:34
nor_argh, this is english only, sry18:34
Mr-S*serva does not want to know * LOL18:34
nor_hehe :)18:34
don_jr_KSblack) who said there was no bugs in *.04? lol18:34
black_of course bug always exist18:34
black_but that is a big bug18:34
Mr-Sits not a bug, Its a feature18:34
don_jr_KSlol18:34
black_i can't chat anymore, does java and flash are anti-ubuntu ?18:35
don_jr_KSI havn't had a problem with java or flash with firefox and I"m using 8.04 with KDE418:35
black_or what18:35
DarthFrogServa: What people tend to forget is that even though they are banging away at their keyboard is that there are other real people on the other end and they should be treated with respect.18:35
francisco_tHi18:35
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Mr-Skde4 that is a nice subject.. Who does like kde4 ?18:35
jussi01lads and ladies, please remember to keep this channel for Kubuntu support. if you want to dicuss other items, then please use #kubuntu-offtopic18:36
black_so18:36
black_does i must uninstall ubuntu ?18:36
black_i think yes18:36
Mr-Ssorry your right got carried away18:36
* genii hands jussi01 a coffee and some Advils18:36
francisco_tShould I have a .bashrc file on my home ??18:36
black_shit18:36
black_bye18:36
black_you are shit18:36
black_all shit18:36
MrKenniea compliment?18:37
DarthFrogblack_ Good-bye.18:37
Guest93724kids must play18:38
MrKennieperfect demonstration on how NOT to receive help.18:39
* Serva nods18:39
DarthFrogWell, it certainly wouldn't encourage anyone not being paid to provide support.18:39
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don_jr_KSKDE4 isn't bad so far Mr-S.  Though the way they are handling items on the desktop now is taking some getting use to.18:39
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zszhow would one install libxine1-ffmpeg package, considering that it's a fresh kubuntu install and the computer does not have internet connection?18:40
Mr-Sbecause this is asupport channel, i cannot go to details, but I do not like Kde4 a lot.18:41
don_jr_KSif the package is on the CD you can enable the CD's restricted repositories and install it that way18:41
DarthFrogzsz: Hmm.  is that package not on the CD?  Do you have another machine connected to the net that you could download the package with, burn it to a CD, then install it manually?18:41
Mr-Snope ffmpeg is not on the CD, I believe on the dvd it is.18:42
DarthFrogzsz: to install it manually: sudo dpkg -i <package filename>18:42
jussi01!offline | zsz18:42
ubottuzsz: If you need to download Ubuntu packages using another machine or OS, check the desired packages in Synaptic and select File > Generate package download script. Alternatively, try http://apt.alturl.com/ (now with Gutsy and Hardy support)18:42
colocloneQuick ? Is the KDE Kiosk manager available from the apt repositories?18:43
DarthFrogjussi01: AH,it now becomes clear.  THat's what the Generate download script setting is for. :-)18:44
jussi01:)18:44
DarthFrogWonder how long it will be before Adept has that capability?  Mind you, I prefer Synaptic anyway.18:46
colocloneNever mind I found it18:46
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avihayb!IDEL18:48
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about idel18:48
avihayb!IDLE18:49
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about idle18:49
DarthFrogavihayb: Do you mean the Python Idle?18:50
avihaybya. I just figured it was a speling mistake :-<18:51
DarthFrogavihayb: apt-cache search idle18:51
avihaybDarthFrog: thanks18:53
DarthFrogYou're welcome.18:53
avihaybyou want an interesting discussion?18:53
DarthFrogNot here.18:53
DarthFrog#kubuntu-offtopic18:53
DarthFrogAnd I'm not a programmer.18:54
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Walrusseanybody did change something to their qt theme so that Firefox looks actually ok in Intrepid ? (or it's just me ?)19:14
jussi01Walrusse: best to ask in #ubuntu+1 ;)19:15
DarthFrogWell there's one thing that Kubuntu Intrepid has over Hardy/KDE4.  I can actually easily configure a network printer again.19:17
DarthFrogAnd have it work. :-)19:18
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avihayb!envy19:20
ubottuenvyng is an updated version of the *UNSUPPORTED* envy package. It is now part of the ubuntu universe repository (envyng-gtk OR envyng-qt) we suggest you use envyng if every other (official/supported) method fails! it can have various results from works, to fails!!!  if you want the very latest drivers from the manufacturer you use them at your own risk19:20
DarthFrogWhat does envy do?19:21
LjL--kde419:21
azizI've configured two Screens in xorg.conf and I'd like to switch between them, Ctrl+Alt+F8 to F12 doesn't work :/19:23
avihaybit's a program that searches and installs drivers for your ati or nvida drivers. it's kind of halfmade and can easyly break your configuration DarthFrog19:23
DarthFrogGotcha.19:23
coloclone!opera19:25
ubottuopera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" (dapper only) is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser19:25
szakulechow can I install the intrepid version of a program? (I'm using hardy heron right now)19:25
colocloneI don't think the intrepid respositories are enabled yet...19:26
szakulecis there a way to just download a package from them, or will I have to compile it myself if I want it?19:27
colocloneI think that codes lives at https://launchpad.net19:31
szakulecall I'm seeing is source code for it- should there be packages available as well?19:32
coloclonehttp://packages.ubuntu.com/intrepid/19:34
szakuleccoloclone: thank you!19:36
colocloneI'm learning this whole thing too... Cheers19:36
guillehello people19:47
Nasjhello19:48
mit__how do i run dolphin as root?19:51
emilsedghmit__: kdesudo dolphin i think19:51
reagleBRKLNhas anyone been able to use google maps with konq 3.5.9? if so, how? (which browser ID or other options?)19:51
reagleBRKLNoh, actually using 3.5.1019:52
mit__emilsedgh, command not found19:52
emilsedghhm19:52
DarthFrogmit__: Amplifying on what emilsedgh said.  Press ALT-F2 first.19:53
DarthFrogThen enter the command there.19:53
mit__command not found19:54
mit__i can kdesu kate thou19:54
jussi01mit__: kdesu dolphin19:55
DarthFrogStrange.  "sudo dolphin" works from Konsole, though.19:55
jussi01DarthFrog: dont use sudo with graphical apps19:56
DarthFrogjussi01: Please read exactly what I wrote.19:56
mit__jussi01, its 40419:56
mit__it cant see some apps19:56
mit__:S19:56
Freddy2hi20:16
Freddy2i'm having some problems with network config (hardy)20:16
yuriy!aptfix20:16
ubottuIf an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »20:16
Freddy2every time i reboot my dns server list is gone, and also the alias of my computer dissapears from /etc/hosts20:17
Freddy2what may be going on?20:17
yuriyFreddy2: how are you changing your nameserver settings?20:17
DarthFrogFreddy2: That's odd.20:18
Freddy2i use the visual config app20:18
DarthFrogFreddy2: Your nameserver list is /etc/resolv.conf20:18
Freddy2system config may be called20:18
Freddy2right now they are there, but if i reboot the list is cleared, as soon as my alias at hosts20:19
DarthFrogFreddy2: I can't tell you how to fix your problem but I can tell you how I'd work around it.20:19
Freddy2i mean, i can set them manually, and i could even add a script at init.d in order to fix that, but..20:19
DarthFrogFreddy2: Once your system is working, from the command line, I'd issue the command "sudo chattr +i /etc/resolv.conf".20:20
DarthFrogTHat'd fix its little red wagon.20:20
yuriyFreddy2: I think network manager overwrites /etc/resolv.conf. there's another place you have to configure it..20:20
Freddy2i=inmutable?20:20
DarthFrogZigzactly.20:20
DarthFrogand chattr -i to reverse.20:20
DarthFroglsattr to list file attributes.20:20
yuriyFreddy2: I think it's /etc/resolvconf/ but i'm not sure20:21
Freddy2i think there's some problem with init scripts, maybe at start, or even at stop time20:21
DarthFrogNote the chattr command won't work with a reiserfs file system.20:21
Freddy2i'm using reiser XD20:21
DarthFrogFreddy2: reiser 3 doesn't implement the immutable attribute.  Don't know about Reiser 4.20:22
zappetec'è qualche italiano nel canale20:22
DarthFrog!it20:23
ubottuVai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (click col tasto destro sul nome del canale per entrare)20:23
Freddy2ok, then i'll create a script for restoring both files after the network is loaded, at init.d20:23
zappetegrazie mille20:23
Freddy2seems to be the easier solution20:23
DarthFrogFreddy2:  Or do it in /etc/rc.local.20:23
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DarthFrogOK, I'm confused. I just enabled fancy desktop effects for KDE in System Settings.  I've got exploding windows.  I'v got wobbly windows.  I've got effects up the ying-yang.  But what I don't have is compiz installed.  So what is KDE using?  Is this part of KWin for KDE 4.1?20:32
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ubuntu__hi20:34
DarthFrogAnswering my own question: Yes!  W00t! "This package contains KWin, the KDE 4 window manager, featuring hardware-accelerated20:34
DarthFrogcompositing effects."20:34
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DarthFrogColour me impressed.20:34
Meztis quiet in here :(20:36
geniiIt often is20:36
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Meznot usually THIS quiet thought20:36
DarthFrogShush!  You'll wake up the wumpus!20:36
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oo0help my wirless dosn't working after a update!20:38
jose__has anyone heard about ubuntu in a pen drive for the eee pc20:38
administratorhi peeps just a quick question does anyone know if you can get bearshare for kubuntu?? or an alternative program like it????20:40
DarthFrogwhat's bearshare?20:40
DarthFrogGnutella?20:40
administratorits la piece of software that rus searches for music20:41
administratorrun*20:42
DarthFrogTry aMule.20:42
DarthFrogOr Limewire.20:43
administratordo u get this prgram on the adept manager??20:44
HexagowHello guys, someone here from sweden and use "SPCS"?20:46
HexagowBecous I can't get the install right, dosen't work to start the file when Iv used "Wine"20:46
DarthFrogadministrator: Yes.20:47
unitypunkcan anyone help me get compiz working?20:48
DarthFrogunitypunk: As I've only just discovered, in Intrepid you don't need compiz for fancy window effects.20:49
unitypunkrunninh heron20:49
DarthFrogHave you got compiz installed?20:49
unitypunk*running*20:49
unitypunkyeah20:49
DarthFrogHow about compiz-kde?20:49
unitypunkand gnome, and kde.20:49
unitypunkmmhmm20:50
DarthFrogunitypunk: Use Adept and seach for compiz.  See what other packages you might like, for easy configuration.20:50
unitypunkii got the gui config app20:50
unitypunkbut nothing works.20:50
DarthFrogDid you restart X?20:51
unitypunki tried reboooting.20:51
unitypunki dont know the command to restartx20:51
DarthFrogNot necessary.  Logging out would be sufficient.20:51
scriptxcontrol+alt+x restarts X server.20:52
DarthFrogunitypunk: CTL-ALT-Backspace will kill X.20:52
scriptxyou'd need a reboot though if you replaced the driver20:52
unitypunkthanks script20:52
scriptxcontrol-alt-backspace20:52
scriptxsorry :P20:52
scriptxctrl+alt+x is just silly20:52
DarthFrogscriptx: Actually, CTL-ALT-Backspace kills X, not restarts it.  KDM restarts it.20:52
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unitypunknope..20:53
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unitypunkno wobbl windows, not cube :-/20:53
DarthFrogscriptx: No, you don't have to reboot!20:53
teeahr1Hey everybody. I just upgraded to 8.10beta, and it seems to have blown away all my old KDE4 settings. Does anyone know if this is a common problem, and if so, whether I can do anything about it?20:54
DarthFrogscriptx: If you installed a new driver and it's configured for use, CTL-ALT-Backspace & KDM restarting X will use it.20:54
DarthFrogunitypunk: Did you go through the Desktop effects setting in System Settings?20:55
DarthFrogteeahr1: No, it didn't blow them away.20:55
DarthFrogteeahr1: Hardy uses ~/.kde4.  Intrepid uses ~/.kde.20:56
teeahr1!20:56
DarthFrogteeahr1: So rename .kde4 to .kde.  Logout and log back in again.20:56
teeahr1DarthFrog: Hey, thanks a ton! That was a moment of panic right there for a second!20:57
DarthFrog:-)  Been there, done that.  Had to wash my shorts afterwards! :-)20:57
teeahr1lol20:57
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DarthFrogDon't forget to rename your current .kde directory first.20:58
unitypunkno DarthFrog20:59
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bartolohola21:05
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teeahr1Thanks for the tip, DarthFrog, that worked. Now I've got a whole other raft of problems.21:25
teeahr1Trying to open Kontact gives me "KMail could not create folder /home/me/.kde4/share/apps/kmail/mail'; please make sure you can view and modify the content of the folder '/home/me'."21:26
DarthFrogteeahr1: You're welcome.21:27
DarthFrogteeahr1: open a konsole.  type this command: cd .kde && sudo chown -R teearh1.teearh1 *21:28
DarthFrogreplace teearh1.teearh1 with your username.groupname21:29
DarthFrogHold on.21:29
DarthFrogWhy is it trying to look in .kde4???21:30
teeahr1That's what I'm wondering.21:30
PoisonArrowHow can I add more widgets?21:30
Keldronahello21:30
DarthFrogPoisonArrow: See that little ying-yang symbol in the upper right of your desktop?  Click on it.21:31
Keldronawhy can't I browse internet with konqueror?21:31
ispanazis it possible to share network in ubuntu? After trying to do just use internet in windows through ubuntu pc as gateway, here what i got: http://www.slave.lt/konkursas/?key=4db13b21:31
DarthFrogKeldrona: You're special?  :-)21:31
ispanazanyone?21:31
DarthFrogKeldrona: What happens when you try to open a URL?21:31
PoisonArrowDarthFrog, ya I have done that, Im trying to add even more to what is there. I think I need more sources list for it, becuase it seems like theres only one for Amarok21:32
DarthFrogPoisonArrow: apt-cache search plasmoid21:32
KeldronaDarthFrog: it says "an error occurred while loading www.google.com. Could not connect to host"21:32
DarthFrogKeldrona: For all sites?21:33
Keldronayes21:33
KeldronaDarthFrog: yes21:33
dwidmannKeldrona: try killing knetworkmanager and trying again21:33
PoisonArrowDarthFrog, thanks21:33
DarthFrogKeldrona: Open a command line window and type "ping google.com".  What happens?21:33
KeldronaDarthFrog: it pings it21:34
DarthFrogSo you have DNS?21:34
KeldronaDarthFrog: don't know... I'm connecting with gprs21:35
DarthFrogI don't know what gprs is, sorry.21:35
DarthFrogWhat is in /etc/resolv.conf?21:35
KeldronaDarthFrog: with my mobile, a Nokia 633021:36
teeahr1Hey, solved it. There was a line in ~/.kde/share/config/kmailrc that referenced ~/.kde4 - I just searched for .kde4, found it and replaced it with .kde. Seems to have solved that problem, I'm into my mail at any rate.21:36
DarthFrogUmm, that's not useful for troubleshooting. :-)21:36
DarthFrogteeahr1: Excellent!  You're away to the races.21:36
Keldronanameserver 193.70.152.2521:37
Keldronanameserver 193.70.152.1521:37
* dwidmann still thinks knetworkmanager could be the problem21:37
DarthFrogKeldrona: Try dwidmann's suggestion.21:38
Keldronadwidmann: yes I think so, but what can I do21:38
mike-solidushey, i know this isn't related to kubuntu, but i'm having infinite recursion trouble with a makefile, anyone care to help, I have 3 directories, each with a qt project in them, i'm trying to write a makefile that will cd into each directory, run qmake, run make then cd out, but it goes into infinite recursion when it runse make in the recurssed directories, as if its running itself21:38
teeahr1Well, that's one down, one to go. I really should have "make uninstalled" krusader before I upgraded to 8.10. Now I'm trying to uninstall it and cmake complains that "find_package could not find module FindKDE4Internal.cmake".21:39
teeahr1I knew something like that was going to happen too. Stupid of me.21:39
dwidmannKeldrona: you could kill knetworkmanager ... like I said at first :P21:40
DarthFrogteeahr1: A first thought is to "ln -s .kde .kde4" and try again.21:40
dwidmannDarthFrog: that's probably a bad idea.21:40
DarthFrogdwidmann: Que?21:41
Keldronadwidmann: it works, am I too stupid to use linux?21:41
DarthFrogKeldrona: Nope.21:41
DarthFrogKeldrona: The very fact that you can ask that question is evidence that you're not. :-)21:41
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dwidmannKeldrona: killing it worked? Well ... it's a bug in knetworkmanager ... don't know what causes it or the fix though21:41
dwidmann+1 DarthFrog21:42
KeldronaI can't be stupid... I study Finnish... :-)21:42
No1PeaceDragon:;-D21:42
Tm_TKeldrona: err, that did hurt me21:42
KeldronaTm_T: why?21:42
* Tm_T is native finnish21:43
DarthFrogTm_T: In that case, Keldrona complimented you.21:43
No1PeaceDragontwo questions what is a hash sum mismatch and how do I fix it?21:43
Tm_Tno he didn't, but thats offtopic21:43
KeldronaTm_T: missä sinä asut?21:43
DarthFrogi.e. you can't be stupid and speak Finnish.21:43
Tm_TKeldrona: #kubuntu-offtopic  (;)21:43
dwidmannDarthFrog: symlinking .kde to .kde4 is a bad idea for a couple reasons 1) kde3 apps look in .kde, 2) kde4 apps look in .kde4 3) mixing those when there are "duplicate" applications could be trouble.21:45
DarthFrogdwidmann: In Intrepid, KDE4 is the default.  There is no KDE3 so he has no KDE3 apps installed.21:45
dwidmannyes to the former, not necessarily to the latter. KDE3 apps with no equivalent were kept.21:46
DarthFrogdwidmann: symlinking .kde to .kde4 might solve his immediate problem.  He can then remove the symlink.21:46
dwidmannNot sure how their conf is handled21:46
ScorpKinghi dwidmann :) long time no see21:46
dwidmannsup ScorpKing? I haven't been too active around here lately ... not sure why.21:47
DarthFrogdwidmann: The symlink would have no effect on what you describe.  KDE3 apps will still look in .kde.21:47
ScorpKingdwidmann: same here. been working a bit more than usual21:47
DarthFrogEven though .kde is now for KDE421:47
DarthFrogdwidmann: Though I'd agree with your reasoning for Hardy.  Not Intrepid.21:48
dwidmannDarthFrog: besides, I didn't know we were talking about intrepid anyhow ... afterall this isn't #ubuntu+121:48
DarthFrogdwidmann: Understood.21:49
No1PeaceDragontwo questions what is a hash sum mismatch and how do I fix it? I cant download some security updates becuz of the mismatch.21:50
dwidmannNo1PeaceDragon: probably a corrupt download or something21:50
DarthFrogNo1PeaceDragon: Delete the file that's givng the sum mismatch.21:51
DarthFrogAnd try again.21:51
No1PeaceDragonok thanks21:52
DarthFrogNo1PeaceDragon: A hash sum is a type of checksum.21:52
No1PeaceDragongDARTHfROG OK CHECKSUM i KNOW AND TY21:53
No1PeaceDragonsorry for caps21:53
PoisonArrowwhat can I install to stream video in firefox?21:57
joshualhi can anyone tell me how to manually configure a usb optical mouse in xorg.conf, it's not working when I simply plug it in21:58
joshualPoisonArrow: vlc21:58
PoisonArrowthat stream video in firefox?21:58
joshualmozilla plugin for vlc21:59
joshualyes21:59
PoisonArrowthanks21:59
joshualmozilla mplayer plugin works too22:00
steve_ahojte22:02
comeditscorpking do you have time ?22:06
ScorpKinga little22:07
comeditwe spoke earlier this week on compiling sounddriver for my laptop22:07
comeditkubuntu 6422:07
bilalTürkçe bilen arkadaş varmı aranızda.:)22:08
bilalyada Türkçe ubuntu sayfanız varmı22:08
DarthFrog!tk22:08
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about tk22:08
DarthFrog!tu22:08
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about tu22:08
DarthFrogOK, what's the country code for Turkey?22:08
DarthFrog!ty22:08
ubottuYou're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)22:08
comeditscorpking :would that be possible now22:09
DarthFrogbilal: English is the language of this channel.22:09
llllhow do i auto start firestarter on every reboot or when kde starts? i followed  http://www.fs-security.com/docs/faq.php but didnt worked. any help?22:10
ScorpKingcomedit: i'm waiting for my brother to arrive from the airport at any moment now. not sure if we'll be able to finish. maybe someone here can walk you through an alsa recompile22:10
DarthFrogllll: Put the command in ~/.kde/Autostart22:11
comeditfine give my regards to your brother22:11
ScorpKingthanks will do22:11
llllDarthFrog which command22:12
DarthFrogllll: Whatever command you use to start firestarter.22:12
comeditanybody present how can help me through recompiling alsa for my card kubuntu 6422:12
* ScorpKing has to go now..22:12
shibzHi, can someone please tell me where I can find a setting to increase my mouse speed?22:13
shibzI found mouse acceleration, but I want mouse speed, not acceleration...22:13
DarthFrogshibz: That sort of stuff is in System Settings.22:13
llllDarthFrog thats sudo firestarter. but i dont want to give sudo paswword again and again.22:13
DarthFrogllll: You could set it suid but that's a security risk.22:14
DarthFrogllll:  What is firestarter?22:14
PoisonArrowhow can i stream .wmv in firefox?22:15
shibzDarthFrog, do you know where it is in System Settings?22:16
llllDarthFrog how? iam using fs the firewall22:16
shibzI am looking at the mouse settings and I can't find it22:16
DarthFrogPoisonArrow: Do you have the w32codecs installed?  Or w64codecs if you're running in 64 bits.22:16
comeditpoison arrow go to howtoforge.com find the tutorial perfect desktop for kubuntu ... your version22:16
comeditand look for the part about multimedia22:16
PoisonArrowDarthFrog, I dont think I have any installed, I know before I have installed liek gviewer-codecs or something22:17
PoisonArrowforgot the name22:17
DarthFrogPoisonArrow: In that case, put the appropriate command to start firestarter in the file /etc/rc.local.22:17
llllDarthFrog how? iam using fs the firewall22:17
PoisonArrowDarthFrog, I believe I need to install all the codecs again22:18
DarthFrogOoops, that last comment was intended for llll  not PoisonArrow. :-)22:18
DarthFrogllll: In that case, put the appropriate command to start firestarter in the file /etc/rc.local.22:18
PoisonArrow:)22:19
DarthFrogPoisonArrow:  I don't think you can do WMV with out the codecs.22:19
PoisonArrowDarthFrog, ok, how can I download them ^^22:19
comeditpison arrow: http://www.howtoforge.com/the-perfect-desktop-kubuntu-8.04-lts22:19
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DarthFrogPoisonArrow: Enable the medibuntu repository and use Adept or Synaptic to install them.22:20
llllDarthFrog if i put that in rc.local. and i restart kde only. will that run again?22:20
PoisonArrowDarthFrog, ok sorry but Im not sure what they are called exactly22:20
DarthFrogllll: No.22:20
DarthFrogllll: It'll run when you reboot.  Or "sudo source /etc/rc.local".22:21
Guest22109whats up people22:21
DarthFrogPoisonArrow: w32codecs or w64codecs.22:21
PoisonArrowthanks22:21
llllDarthFrog how do i run that 'sudo firestarter' wihithout paswword prompting every time, at kde start22:21
DarthFrogllll: Why do you want to run it when KDE starts?  running it from rc.local is safer.22:22
llllok22:22
llllwhere do i put it . after exit 0 or before?22:22
llllDarthFrog22:22
DarthFrogOn the phone, sorry.22:23
llllbtw, i already have 'firestarter' file in  home/user1/.kde/autostart22:24
comeditanybody present how can help me through recompiling alsa for my card on a kubuntu 6422:25
DarthFrogllll: Before exit 0.22:27
llllk22:28
llllbtw, i already have 'firestarter' file in  home/user1/.kde/autostart22:28
DarthFrogllll: It is possible to do what you want from Autostart.  But it means setting the firestarter executable as SUID.  And that's a bad idea.  A very bad idea.  It'll work but it'll be a great big gaping security hole.22:28
DarthFrog!suid22:29
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about suid22:29
llllok22:29
lllland in that file its written start hiddein --22:29
llllsudo firestarter start-hidden-22:29
DarthFrogllll: Take it out of Autostart.22:30
DarthFrogAnd you don't need sudo in rc.local.22:30
llllDarthFrog> llll: Take it out of Autostart.22:30
llll?22:30
DarthFrogJust the command to start firestarter.22:30
llllk22:30
lllland it will run. but run unminimised?22:31
DarthFrogOpen a Konsole and type "sudo which firestarter".  Put the answer (i.e. the full path) in /etc/rc.local.22:31
llllk22:31
llllthx22:32
colocloneWhat is the simplist way to disable internet access but allow 1 domain to be accessed?22:32
DarthFrogI'm assuming that firestarter is a firewall, right?22:32
DarthFrogcoloclone: Can you do that at the router? That might be easiest.22:32
Freddy2use iptables.. you'll need no more than 6 or 7 rules22:33
sorush20I can't get this key22:33
sorush20help 437D05B522:33
sorush20gpg --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 40976EAF437D05B522:33
sorush20i get time out22:34
colocloneDarthFrog: This would be a single computer in a public setting... only want to allow one domain so router is out22:34
DarthFrogcoloclone: Then do what Freddy2 suggests.22:34
coloclone!iptables22:35
ubottuUbuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).22:35
DarthFrogllll: Firestarter is a GUI app?  Forget rc.local.22:35
Unity`Kubuntu:-/22:36
shibzwhy not use something like shorewall?22:36
Unity`Kubuntuwhered my mixer go?22:36
DarthFrogcoloclone: I presume that you could use a GUI firewall app to set things up the way you want.  Then use "iptables -L" to get the rules to write the iptables startup script to implement them on boot.22:37
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colocloneDarthFrog: Do you suggest a specific UI?22:38
DarthFrogshibz: DOn't know.  You'd have to ask llll.  Personally, I like shorewall, though.22:38
DarthFrogcoloclone: Well, from the bot's response to your query, it would seem that Guarddog is the KDE answer. :-)22:39
DarthFrogcoloclone: And I still think it'd be easier to do at the router. :-)22:40
No1PeaceDragonDarthFrog I got all except one and still got22:41
No1PeaceDragonW: Failed to fetch http://mirror.cc.columbia.edu/pub/linux/ubuntu/archive/pool/main/k/kdepim/korganizer_3.5.10-0ubuntu1~hardy2_i386.deb22:41
No1PeaceDragon  Hash Sum mismatch22:41
colocloneDarthFrog: I wouldn't know where to start with that.... I guess I would have to ask our router admin to do it... i.e. ask him to block all http from the computer I want and allow that computer to access only one domain i.e. ubuntu.org... does that make sense?22:41
No1PeaceDragonsorry i pasted and copied wrong part22:41
DarthFrogNo1PeaceDragon:  Try another mirror?22:41
No1PeaceDragonDarthFrog I tried "best server" button22:42
DarthFrogcoloclone: Yes.  I can do that at home on my Linksys WRT54GL router.22:42
DarthFrogNo1PeaceDragon: Well, it sounds like the server has a corrupt package.  Or the wrong checksum.22:43
No1PeaceDragonDarthFrog so what do I do just wait a couple days?22:43
DarthFrogNo1PeaceDragon: Try another mirror.22:43
colocloneDarthFrog: K good that you understand.... maybe he will! I'm still going to try and do this on the local machine... Can I disable DNS and just put the resolved IP in the /etc/hosts?22:44
Freddy2coloclone: check this sample script for iptables http://phpfi.com/36542322:44
DarthFrogcoloclone: That won't stop anyone who knows what they're doing.22:44
Freddy2you can also add rules in order to restrict packets for concrete domains.. check the -s and -d switches at iptables manpage22:45
colocloneGood point... Seems as though I can whitelist with firestarter... yeah I just realized I'm in kbuntu sry22:47
DarthFrogFreddy2: Man, that's a lot of risky work for someone who doesn't really know what they're doing!  Getting the network admin to do it at the router is safer.22:47
colocloneOK I'm going to test this... Thanks guys!22:47
Freddy2make some tests before you use it in a true environment.. as DarthFrog has said you should be careful when you don't know what you're doing22:48
colocloneRight... I'm working on a test enviroment so I should be ok22:49
llllDarthFrog ok22:50
Freddy2anyway that's a generic script, all you'll need some tweaking if you need to restrict traffic to a certain destination domain22:50
llllDarthFrog fs is a gui22:51
DarthFrogllll: Security and convenience are trade-offs.  This is definitely a case where you don't want to lose security to gain convenience.22:51
llllhm22:52
llllany ways. thanks! :)22:52
DarthFrogllll: Instead of "sudo firestarter" in Autostart, use "kdesu firestarter".22:52
llllDarkSmoke then i will be prompted for the password. i dont want to be prompted22:53
wadHow do I type an enya character under Kunbuntu?22:53
llllDarthFrog *22:53
sorush20wow its amazing no one know how to do this key setting22:53
DarthFrogFreddy2: I like your Iptables script. A nice skeleton.22:53
MrKenniellll: why not use ufw?22:53
llllwhats ufw22:54
Freddy2it's easy to manage, sure.. that's the point :)22:54
MrKennie!ufw22:54
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about ufw22:54
MrKenniepfft22:54
llll?22:54
DarthFrogllll: To do what you want would require setting firestarter SUID.  And that's a security risk.  Better to enter your password when prompted.22:55
MrKenniellll: it's an easy to use iptables tool22:55
MrKenniellll: it will load the rules you specify at boot time22:55
MrKenniellll: man ufw22:56
DarthFrogsorush20: If the server is timing out, what do you think you can do about it?22:56
llllk22:58
MrKennielooks like someone is working on a gui frontend to ufw too22:58
llllok22:58
llllDarthFrog22:58
llllsudo /usr/sbin/firestarter --start-hidden22:58
llllin .kde/autostart22:58
llllit works too22:58
DarthFrogllll: No.  kdesu, not sudo22:58
llllthx all... i gitg.. :)22:58
llllhmm. ok22:59
Unity`Kubuntudamn sound card broke :-/22:59
DarthFrogllll: sudo is command line.  kdesu is GUI.22:59
llllhm22:59
llllk22:59
llllhttp://www.fs-security.com/docs/faq.php gives a line in22:59
Freddy2time to sleep.. gn23:00
llll/etc/sudoers23:00
llllusername ALL= NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/firestarte23:00
lllli hope it works for sudo and kdesu both23:00
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jhutchins_wk!sudo23:09
ubottusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information. For graphical applications see !gksu (Gnome), or !kdesu (KDE)23:09
sorush20what version is amarok in interpid23:14
sorush20!amarok23:14
ubottuAmarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.8 (1.4.3 for Dapper LTS). Packages are available for Kubuntu at www.kubuntu.org See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Amarok23:14
CoJaBo-EeeIs there any way to find out why knetworkmanager fails to connect?23:18
* krash sighs23:18
krashMore wireless problems? Always wireless problems...23:18
CoJaBo-EeeIt connects, it just takes up to 30 attempts, I'd like to find out why.23:19
krashPoor signal?23:19
krashFrequency interupts?23:20
CoJaBo-EeeGood, 81%, only a few feet from router.23:20
krashwhat channel?23:20
CoJaBo-Eee11 I think. I tried it with the computer right next to the router, no difference.23:21
krashHrmm 11 is good, dunno then sorry not much experience with wireless on ubuntu yet23:22
CoJaBo-EeeIs there a log or a way to see what the error is?23:22
DarthFrogWireless seems to either just work or be a royal pain in the butt.23:22
CoJaBo-EeeI'd like to know why the connection fails on 90-97% of attempts.23:23
krashCojaBo-Eee: Yes most likely, where it's at though, I couldn't tell you off hand, perhaps someone else here would know or you could find on google?23:23
CoJaBo-EeeTried Googling, I've had the problem for a while now.23:24
DarthFrogCoJaBo-Eee: Not that I've got any answers for you but what chipset does the wireless card use?23:24
krashCojaBo-Eee: I take it then you've researched all posibilities for your wireless card drivers too then as well yeah?23:25
CoJaBo-EeeRaLink, but same problem on 2 other cards on different computers.23:25
unitypunki know a simple solution to wireless..23:25
unitypunknot very cost ffective..23:26
CoJaBo-EeeAnd its only this network.23:26
unitypunkbutt, go get a ddwrt54g from somewhere23:26
blackangelhi23:26
krashyeah that's what I got :)23:26
unitypunkand flash ddwrt, and dont use wireless card ;)23:26
unitypunkuse the router as a wireless reciever23:27
unitypunkthe sub lan is kinda a pita though23:27
CoJaBo-EeeA router as the wireless card?23:27
unitypunkyeah23:27
unitypunkthats what i doo23:27
CoJaBo-EeeIt would likely be larger than the computer itself o_O23:28
* krash boggles23:28
unitypunkhow so?23:28
unitypunkput the wrt54g ontop of the computer23:28
krashHe means hard-wire it I think23:28
CoJaBo-EeeSubnotebook. My current router is slightly larger than it lol23:28
unitypunkand get a 3ft cat5/623:28
unitypunkahh23:28
unitypunki think its technicly a wireless bridge krash23:29
unitypunkbetween two wifi modems.23:29
krashunitypunk ahh I see you're saying now *nods*23:29
unitypunki couldnt get my ralink card working either CoJaBo-Eee23:30
chfwiggumls Ja23:30
CoJaBo-EeeIt works fine with another network (even tho I can't actually use it because Firefox blocks the login page :/ )23:30
krashhrmm just updated my kernel/nvidia drivers gotta reboot my box only been up 1 day and 17 hrs :P23:31
CoJaBo-Eeeunitypunk: I can connect, but it can take up to 30 attempts o_O23:31
x-X-xcrimson?23:31
x-X-xcrimsun*23:32
unitypunkCoJaBo-Eee,  i could connect.. just fine for about a minute..23:32
unitypunkthen the connection would time out.23:32
psycoheeeeey guysss23:32
psycoGuess who overwrote his grub stuff23:32
unitypunkme, being a noob, decided to add the wired solution in there.23:32
psycoI am in a live CD and I cant reinstall grub23:32
psycoroot (hd0,1) is not found23:32
crimsunx-X-x: hi23:33
CoJaBo-EeeMine will stay connected after it connects, it is just that it takes soo long to connect (and there is no auto-retry either, so I have to sit next to it the whole time)23:33
unitypunkbleh23:33
unitypunkwifi is a pita..23:33
unitypunkand will b e for ever.23:33
CoJaBo-EeeWorks fine in XP :/23:33
unitypunkof course it does lol23:33
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CoJaBo-EeeVista had tons of problems tho :P23:34
x-X-xcrimsun: http://pastebin.com/d7fce82ef i get this error23:34
x-X-xcrimsun: does this mean that i cant get equalizer with xmod?23:34
crimsunx-X-x: sec, I'm preparing for a meeting shortly23:35
CoJaBo-EeeIt just says "could not connect", but I can't find what the actual error is :/23:35
crimsunx-X-x: pastebin your asoundrc23:35
x-X-xk23:36
cippalippahi guys... got a problem... already installed Firefox 3 and installed the flash player too (with a .deb file), but it still asks me for downloading the player... anyone knows a solution?23:36
okayhola...23:36
unitypunkpartyyy23:36
Anocippalippa try to restart gnome (or kde or ...)23:37
CoJaBo-Eeecippalippa: I installed it by adept.23:37
x-X-xcrimsun: http://pastebin.com/d765fa4cc23:37
cippalippaAno: just tried...23:37
CoJaBo-Eeeflashplugin-nonfree IIRC...23:38
crimsunx-X-x: line 28 is invalid23:38
Anoargh23:38
crimsunx-X-x: you cannot say "plughw"; alsa-lib needs to know which device you're referring to23:38
x-X-xcrimsun: wow that was fast23:38
psycowhy cant i install things on a live cd (from adept)?23:38
psyco"error commiting changes"23:39
x-X-xcrimsun: what do i put?23:39
sorush20is there something wrong with my sources list I@m not seening amarok new version23:39
sorush20http://pastebin.ca/122883223:39
crimsunx-X-x: well, which hw: device do you want to use?23:39
x-X-xxmod23:39
cippalippaCoJaBo-Eee: what's the difference between adobe-flashplugin and flashplugin-nonfree?23:39
crimsunx-X-x: the format is an integer (lower bound is zero, 0); see cat /proc/asound/cards23:40
crimsuncippalippa: the former is Adobe's 32-bit deb containing the Flash plugin; the latter is Ubuntu's 32- or 64-bit wrapper that downloads and installs the Flash plugin23:40
x-X-xcrimsun: http://pastebin.com/d4d13e6e123:41
crimsunx-X-x: so you likely want slave.pcm "hw:1"23:41
crimsunx-X-x: I'm in a meeting very shortly, so I won't be able to respond immediately23:41
cippalippacrimsun: thank you23:42
administratorI need to install GNU pascal on my kubuntu system?23:42
crimsuncippalippa: yw23:42
x-X-xcrimsun: i understand23:42
x-X-xcrimsun: thnx for your help you are a guru23:42
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crimsunadministrator: try installing fpc from universe23:43
administratordo anybody know some shortcut to a successfull GNU pascal installation for kubuntu?23:43
cippalippais it possible to know all the channel list on irc?23:48
psycoGuys, I need to reinstall grub but in grub> root (0,1) doesnt detect my hardrive23:49
robin0800cippalippa: yes window chanel list23:49
psycothe live cd I have doesnt' see any of my drives, why?23:51
cippalipparobin0800: yes... really don't fancy to look for commands23:51
x-X-xcrimsun: ( reply when you can ) http://pastebin.com/d109c9fa0 new error23:52
crimsunx-X-x: convert it to a more complete plug format, or use plug:equalized23:53
x-X-xk23:53
crimsunx-X-x: remember that you can test with `aplay -Dplug:equalized /usr/share/sounds/*up.wav' first23:53
x-X-x:) thnx23:53
krashWeird, a couple of my icons on my task bar are messed up and when I add an item to my favorites it shows up weird like konversation underneath it says konversation.desktop23:54
krashanyone else notice that with the beta?23:55
krashohh I should be in a different channel for that23:55
unity`Buntusomething about restricted drivers in use..23:57
unity`Buntuthats talking about my video card eight?23:57
unity`Buntu*right23:57
krashprobably using nvidia drivers?23:57
unity`Buntuyeah23:57
krashthen yeah23:58
unity`Buntudoes that mean i can run compiz?23:58
unity`Buntulol23:58

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