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awilkinsAre there plans for a Mylyn bridge for LP?00:21
NCommanderHow can I get the email via openid (ala wiki.ubuntu.com?)00:22
thumperNCommander: what email?01:22
NCommanderthumper, the primary email01:23
NCommanderIf you login into the wiki, it gets your timezone and email, but requesting email properties over OpenID it doesn't work01:23
thumperNCommander: hmmm... sorry don't know01:23
thumperNCommander: I'd suggest asking a question on the launchpad project01:24
spivNCommander: I believe Launchpad currently only hands out the username to most RPs.  AIUI wiki is on a whitelist of sites that can access more info.01:27
spivNCommander: It's probably worth filing a question as thumper suggests.01:27
NCommanderOk01:33
NCommanderfiling a question01:33
RinchenNCommander, what do you mean by email vs openid?01:34
NCommanderNo, you can request additional information about a user over openid01:34
NCommanderi.e., the users real name or email address01:34
RinchenNCommander, oh, that requires a trustroot01:34
RinchenNCommander, and we aren't giving those out until the openid beta is over (really soon, some new stuff in the works)01:35
NCommanderRinchen, even for a (semi-)offical service like REVU?01:35
RinchenNCommander, currently the default is basic auth.  For trusted Canonical sites, we give out more01:35
NCommanderI see.01:36
Rinchenwell... REVU, I might be able to make an exception.01:36
RinchenNCommander, please send the proposal to me, joey@canonical.com, and CC:  feedback@launchpad.net01:36
NCommanderRight, we currently have some horrid hack from hell to grab the GPG key01:36
NCommanderI'd like to at least remove the email one ;_)01:36
RinchenNCommander, I'll have a look at it in the morning. I'll need to know how you are using openid, what libraries, etc.... and then setup a test with you if it looks ok on our end01:37
NCommanderpython-openid, the code is public01:37
NCommander(both for revu and that library)01:37
NCommanderThere is a horrible bit of hack code though that retrieves GPG keys via RDF and some commands to GPG :-)01:37
Rinchengreat.  Ok, email me with the details you want and the proposal please. Will you be on IRC tomorrow?01:37
NCommanderI live here01:37
NCommander;-)01:37
Rinchenperfect!01:37
Rinchen(the cc to feedback is in case anyone wants to raise an alarm at me doing this)01:38
RinchenThere will be some potential issues when we change the openid URL later01:38
Rinchenas in November or December01:39
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RinchenNCommander, btw are you the person to report python tracebacks in Revu when I select Preferences? :-)01:44
RinchenNCommander, http://paste.ubuntu.com/58118/01:44
NCommanderRinchen, bad bit of code landed in the last update to production01:46
* NCommander notes we need staging01:46
jmlhow can I arrange to get notified of all bugs on a project?01:53
jmloh I see01:53
aantnhello05:52
aantnwho is responsible for reviewing a project's translations?05:52
spivjtv: ^ question for you05:53
jtvaantn: I am05:55
aantnjtv: ok, cool :)05:56
jtvaantn: well, to be precise, I review uploads that don't come through automatically, such as the project's first uploads.05:56
* aantn wanted to check that it wasn't the project admin's job05:56
aantnjtv: yeah, that's what I had in mind05:56
jtvaantn: of course it's up to the project admin to make sure they get _good_ translations.  :-)05:56
aantnaye05:56
jtvaantn: what's the project?05:57
aantnUniversal Applets05:57
* jtv sees05:57
jtvaantn: first off, the template should have a name ending in .pot, not .po05:58
jtvaantn: I can change that on my end, but remember to change it on yours as well.05:58
aantnjtv: I know, but I wasn't sure how to generate a .pot with xgettext05:58
jtvaantn: it's basically the same file, except a .pot doesn't contain any translations and doesn't have some fields in its header filled out.05:59
jtvaantn: so renaming it is all it takes.05:59
aantnjtv: what do you mean about the header?05:59
jtvaantn: the first message in the file should have an empty msgid, and its "translation" is the file's header.06:00
jtvaantn: also, you'll want to check the "Translations for this project are done in Launchpad" box in your project settings.06:01
aantnjtv: ok, thanks06:01
jtvaantn: it's approved, so you should have a working template in a few minutes.06:02
aantnjtv: I'll need to update the template whenever new gettext strings are added, right?06:02
jtvaantn: exactly, that's how you add strings.06:03
aantnjtv: I've added a target to the Makefile; does this look right to you?06:03
aantnxgettext --language=Python --output=messages.pot --copyright-holder="Natan Yellin" --package-version=0.1 --msgid-bugs-address=aantny@gmail.com src/lib/universal-applets/*.py src/bin/melange src/bin/universal-applets-*06:03
jtvaantn: fine, although package-version is not mandatory.  You'll want to find an easy way to keep it up to date, or just leave it out.06:05
aantnjtv: thanks06:05
jtvnp06:06
aantnjtv: thanks again :)06:27
jtvaantn: glad to help!06:27
_AndrewHow do I add packages I built in my ppa to pbuilder?07:43
thumper_Andrew: ask bigjools or celso08:00
Hobbsee_Andrew: do you know what the address of your ppa is, if you want to add itto a sources list?08:11
_AndrewI already have it added to my sources list on my laptop08:12
Hobbsee_Andrew: run 'pbuilder login --save-after-login', add that line to /etc/apt/sources.list inside the chroot it gives you, then type exit.08:12
_Andrewbut it doesn't show up on pbuilder08:12
Hobbseeno, it doesn't (for good reason)08:12
_Andrewoh ok08:12
_AndrewI think it's not install because it's an unauthorised package.. is there a way to make pbuilder just install it anyway?08:35
Hobbseeer, there probably is. i don't remember whatit isthough08:39
dholbachhiya08:56
dholbachhow can I change the membership of somebody in a team by using launchpadlib?08:56
dholbachthe apidocs talk about setMembershipData() but it's not documented and I could not find out how to use it :)08:56
_AndrewThis is a real show stopper, I can't figure out how to get it to install.. : /09:11
Hobbsee_Andrew: google suggests searching for 'unauthenticated' on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PbuilderHowto09:14
_AndrewI did a more complicated search then that, thanks for finding it for me09:15
Hobbseeyou're welcome09:18
wgrantdholbach: I think addMember might be useful there... let me test.09:22
wgrantdholbach: addMember works, but it seems to erase the expiry date... I wonder if there's another way to set that.09:25
dholbachwgrant: thanks a lot - I just resorted to doing it manually :)09:26
dholbachmaybe today is not my most patient day :-)09:27
wgrantIndeed, it resets the expiry date, and the TeamMembership doesn't have that attribute writable.09:29
wgrantHow stupid.09:29
* wgrant files some bugs.09:29
wgrantdholbach: That's the only quirk with it that I can see.09:29
dholbachI just wanted to kick out 154 members of a team :)09:30
wgrantHrmph.09:30
wgrantIt doesn't look like you can deactivate people with it.09:30
NCommanderdholbach, so me being kicked out wasn't personal ;-)?09:31
dholbachNCommander: you triggered the whole thing :)09:31
wgrantWhich team?09:31
NCommander5-a-day09:31
wgrantAha.09:31
* wgrant files even more Launchpad bugs.09:31
NCommanderdholbach, yes well, when I grow up, I want to be a security spook09:32
dholbachdone09:32
NCommanderIs it possible to delete a team?09:34
wgrantNCommander: An ~admin can deactivate one.09:34
* NCommander raises his hands and summons an admin09:35
NCommanderI think it worked09:38
* wgrant doesn't.09:40
dholbachthanks again wgrant09:40
dholbachsee you guys09:40
NCommanderMaybe I need to fix more Debian NMUs to increase my mana09:40
NCommanderWe could just rename the team09:42
NCommanderTHat way at least people would have to readd the APT entries to break things09:42
wgrantDamn, I see that matsubara got dogfood "fixed".09:46
NCommanderWell, someone has to "unfix" it09:48
* NCommander wonders if he could get Joey to turn backtraces on staging .... *hrm*09:49
NCommanderwgrant, ping?09:55
* wgrant reappears.09:58
wgrantNCommander: Hi.09:58
NCommanderwgrant, see PM09:59
bigjoolsNCommander: why do you need backtraces?10:09
* NCommander allows wgrant to answer10:09
wgrantIt's just mildly interesting to poke around and see how things work.10:10
stubIts possible backtraces leak information that shouldn't be leaked, so probably not10:11
wgrantExactly why they should be turned off as they are now, yes.10:11
wgrantstub: I was pleased to see your comments on read-only-launchpad which seemed to say you won't be entirely taking Launchpad away from us after 2.1.12.10:14
wgrantAn excellent and long-needed improvement.10:15
NCommanderwgrant, wait, what?10:20
wgrantNCommander: Which bit?10:20
NCommanderread-only launchpad?10:20
wgrantNCommander: I believe the purpose of it is to enable upgrades to only require Launchpad to become read-only for the duration, not be missing from the Internet entirely.10:22
wgrantStill highly suboptimal, but an awful lot better than we have now.10:22
NCommanderOh, yes, yes10:22
NCommanderLP's off switch should have a read-only position10:23
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wgrantmrevell: Why is bzr 1.7 required for stacking on LP? I'm using 1.6.1 fine...10:59
mrevelljml: Can you answer wgrant?11:00
mrevellwgrant: I'm afraid I took that line from jml, so I'm not sure on that one.11:00
pro-rsoftIs there some quick way to mark all bugs from a certain milestone from "fix committed" to "fix released" ?11:15
danilospro-rsoft: I don't believe there is11:19
danilospro-rsoft: maybe you can use launchpadlib to create a tool to do it11:19
pro-rsofthm11:20
pro-rsoftwhats the "this bug affects me" thing btw?11:22
pro-rsoftis that something like a poll or so where everyone can say whether they are troubled by a certain bug?11:22
persiaThanks for the faster branch uploads.  The difference is stunningly noticeable.11:23
Hobbseepro-rsoft: yes, but the results can't be seen currently.11:24
pro-rsoftHobbsee, ah.11:24
* wgrant worships mpt for his epic LP usability bugs, but wonders why they only appear after the offending feature has landed.12:01
mptwgrant, because that's when I discover it12:02
wgrantmpt: That could do it.12:04
mptUrsinha, do you have IE6/IE7 handy?13:19
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exarkunmpt: do you know about http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/page/Main_Page13:20
mptexarkun, yes, I had it installed but it gradually stopped working13:21
mptto the point where IE6 had no toolbars and IE7 wouldn't do cookies so I couldn't log in13:22
jmlwgrant: if 1.6.1 is working fine for you, that's great.13:32
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jmlwgrant: we've been doing all of our testing with 1.7, so I erred on the side of caution in the announcement.13:32
persiajml, One risk with that is the Ubuntu is shipping 1.6.1, which means that Ubuntu users won't have the version recommended.13:36
wgrantjml: Ah, I see.13:42
divinesoulguys i need a help can some one help13:42
danilosdivinesoul: shoot13:44
divinesouli am upgraded the kernel today in ubuntu after that i lost my sound13:45
divinesoulhow can i find whats the problem13:46
danilosdivinesoul: please try one of the #ubuntu channels, this channel is dedicated to Launchpad use13:47
danilosdivinesoul: eg. type "/join #ubuntu" and try asking there13:47
divinesoulnoone is there to help me13:47
divinesouli am already joined the channel13:48
danilosdivinesoul: maybe you can try describing a problem on https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu13:48
danilosdivinesoul: I really can't help much with Ubuntu stuff, and I doubt anyone on #launchpad can13:49
divinesoulatleast u has the courtesy to give this info hats off for that13:50
danilosdivinesoul: you are welcome, I am sorry for not being able to help with Ubuntu stuff13:54
Hobbseebeuno: erm, so why's the "me too" icon very similar to the junk mail icon?13:57
beunoHobbsee, because you use thunderbird   :)13:58
Hobbseebeuno: You'd be right there.13:58
Hobbseebeuno: but i fail to see how "me too" should relate to junk, or fire?13:58
beunoHobbsee, hot?13:59
* wgrant ignites Hobbsee, and sees how quickly she fixes that.14:00
* Hobbsee melts14:00
Hobbseebeuno: ah, right.14:00
beunodid I win?  I never know!14:00
Hobbseewin what?14:01
Hobbseeway cool!  They fixed a UI bug!14:01
Hobbsee(the one where one of the dropdown buttons doesn't actually make the panel drop down)14:02
persiaWhich one?14:02
persiaOh, so no more unexpected jumping.  Cool!14:02
Hobbseeleft hand upside-down eject button on a bug.14:02
Hobbseeyeah14:02
Hobbseeit still annoys me that there's 2 clicks to find information out about a person, on theri overview page, from there, though.14:03
persiaHobbsee, Is there a bug for that?14:16
* persia wants to subscribe14:16
Hobbseepersia: i've no idea.14:16
Hobbseepersia: i've not filed one14:16
glade88hello.. how do I show a blueprint that I'm working upon, on my launchpad page?15:01
beunoglade88, I think it will show up if you assign it to yourself15:02
glade88beuno: thanks for the reply. https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/bot88/+spec/brainstorm-site-integration15:03
glade88I have assigned myself15:03
glade88but it does not show up on the page.15:03
beunohmm...15:04
glade88beuno: do I have to offer mentorship?15:04
beunoglade88, no, I *think* it will appear if you link a branch to it15:05
beunomaybe sinzui can enlighten us15:05
* sinzui ponders15:06
beunofrom what I can see in my user page, that's the common element15:06
glade88beuno: I assigned a branch. does it take time to come up?15:07
beunoglade88, it may, but I'm just guessing at this point  :)15:07
* sinzui reads the code15:08
glade88beuno: thanks.. it's not very essential, though I was just curious :)15:08
rainctHey15:09
sinzuiglade88: beuno: bugs and blueprints only appear when they are set to inprogress15:09
glade88sinzui: oic.. :)15:10
sinzuiWell that's bogus, I sure I completed the Zope3 upgrade15:10
glade88sinzui: while exploring a bit, I just came around a friend's profile: https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/~bhavi15:11
rainctThat REVU login message rocks! :)15:11
glade88the umg-gaming blueprint shows "started" and its showed up under his "working on"15:11
sinzuiglade88: right. In my case, I had not updated the status of my Zope3 blueprint to complete, so it was still showing in my working on section15:12
sinzuiWe really need to simplify blueprints15:13
glade88sinzui: but how does the blueprint with  "started" status show up on bhavi 's profile? o.O15:13
beunosinzui, we do. We also have a sprint in not too long!15:13
* beuno is looking forward to it15:14
sinzuiglade88: The section first gets a lists of bugs and blueprints that are assigned to the user. If any bugs are inprogress, or blueprints are started - deployment, then the section is displayed15:18
sinzuiglade88: The status of https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/bot88/+spec/brainstorm-site-integration must be started or beyond15:19
sinzuiglade88: beuno: I think the blueprint definition and implementation statuses are far too complex.15:20
glade88sinzui: it is already "started".15:20
glade88still does not show up :/15:21
beunosinzui, I agree.15:21
* sinzui reads deeper into the code15:21
glade88setting blueprint to "good progress"15:23
danilosglade88: that is probably updated from your karma information, which may take up to a day to update15:24
danilosglade88: though, I may be mistaken15:24
glade88danilos: okay! thanks.. I'll see if it comes up! :)15:25
danilosglade88: another idea is actually assigning it to a particular milestone, but also wait for sinzui to look into the code, he might give a better answer :)15:25
sinzuiglade88: danilos: The rule for displaying a spec is based on the current state: Not(UNOWN, NOTSTARTED, DEFERRED, INFORMATIONAL). So the spec should display15:26
glade88danilos: there is nothing under "set a milestone" drop list15:27
sinzuiglade88: milestones are not used by the query, or in the page display rules15:28
sinzuiWell there is a bug in the "Working on" section. it only displays if a bug is in progress.15:37
persiasinzui, Why is that a bug?  For bugs, I think it's right.  For specs, it's more complicated.15:38
sinzuipersia: If someone is working on a spec, and only a spec, it should still show up in the "Working on" section15:39
persiasinzui, Sure, and when different people are assigned as the implementor, drafter, and approver, it should probably move depending on the status of the spec.15:39
persiaI just think that the current behaviour for bugs is correct.15:40
danilospersia: it seems sinzui is saying that no 'Working on' section is displayed at all if you are not working on any bug15:40
sinzuipersia: The section rules appear to state having either a blueprint or a bug that is started suffices to display the section, but glade88, blueprint did not display until I assigned him one of my bugs that is inprogress15:40
persiasinzui, Oh, I see the bug now.  Thanks for explaining in detail.15:42
persiaWould it be possible to turn on changelog-closes-bugs so that uploads to Ubuntu can close bugs in another project in launchpad?15:53
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_AndrewIs there anyone around that can help me? My ppa won't compile because the build machines aren't installing the packages.16:21
matsubaracprov: ^16:21
matsubaraor danilos ^16:22
matsubara:-)16:22
_Andrewah yes, cprov helped me last time16:22
_AndrewI forgot16:22
cprov_Andrew: you can probably get better assistance on packaging-related issues in #ubuntu-motu.16:24
_Andrewoh ok16:24
_Andrewthanks16:24
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Ursinhacool, our community help contact is a slash16:56
geserUrsinha: the . is missing :)17:03
Ursinhageser, :)17:03
Ursinhaslashdot is nicer, but it could be also slash, the guitar player17:04
Odd_Bloke"Community help contact: /dev/null"17:05
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UrsinhaOdd_Bloke, that was nice :)18:17
albuntuhello to all18:23
albuntucan anyone tell me if i can upload a package with free wallpapers found in internet in launchpad ?18:26
persiaalbuntu, It depends on the license you received when you downloaded the wallpapers.  If you are allowed to not only distribute them, but to grant launchpad the right to distribute them, then the answer is "Yes".18:28
albuntupersia: ok i understood. so i have to request the rights to give the rights to launchpad to distribute them18:31
albunturight ?18:31
albuntui just wanted to create a package with free wallpapers found all over the internet18:31
persiaalbuntu, Right.  Generally it's easier to ask that it be put under a license that grants anyone receiving them the right to distribute them, but that's your minimum requirement.18:32
albuntupersia: ok thanks. i am going to give a look to them18:32
persiaThe Creative Commons licenses seem popular for things like wallpapers.18:32
albuntupersia: thanks. that is the exact thing to use :)18:39
thouhi.  i can look at this page:  http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mysql/mysql-server/mysql-5.1/changes  .  But when i click the "Files" tab, it times out with "Please try again: Sorry, there was a problem connecting to the Launchpad server."18:56
thouis this known/expected?18:56
beunothou, it's known that the server has some performance issues, yes18:58
beunoit's being worked on18:58
beunolet me poke you a sysadmin to look at it anyway18:58
thoubeuno: i'm thinking it's not a performance issue18:58
thouit's consistently told me that for the past 4 hours or so18:58
beunomthaddon, is the LH server stuck again?18:58
beunothou, right, mysql is one of the big branches, so it's frequent that it times out18:59
mthaddonLH server?18:59
mthaddonoh, loggerhead18:59
beunomthaddon, Loggerhead, sorry  :)18:59
thouack18:59
beunothou, we're working on improving the server, but it may just need a restart now18:59
beunomthaddon's the man18:59
mthaddonseems to be just below limits - our nagios check catches it at 10 seconds - just came in at 9.09319:00
thoumaybe you could get sun to donate some beefy hardware, since it's their code which is so big ;-)19:00
beunothou, heh, I really wish it was a hardware issue  :)19:01
beunosomething is leaking memory like crazy19:01
beunowe need to close that hole19:01
beunomthaddon, what's the procedure in this case? restart it?19:01
mthaddonthou, is it still timing out for you - seems to be working for our checks (we only check a specific branch, though)19:02
* thou does Shift+Ctrl+R on http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mysql/mysql-server/mysql-5.1/files19:02
thouyes, same result19:02
mthaddonI can restart, but our check is still working fine...19:03
thouis there a different URL i should be using?19:03
mthaddonthou, ok, please try again now - have restarted19:03
thoui went to launchpad.net/mysql-server and then clicked around until i found something that looked like "browse the source"19:03
mthaddonthou, no, that's the right URL as far as I can tell19:03
beunoseems to load now19:04
thouok, it's working19:04
mthaddonugh, great, so even if our check works, it can still be broken...19:04
beunomthaddon, run the checks on the mysql branch  ;)19:04
mthaddonbeuno, overload the server every time we check it? sure...19:05
beunowell, if you put it like that...19:05
mthaddonbeuno, we're restarting it every day as it is... :(19:05
beunomthaddon, good thing we have a 2 week sprint coming up, huh?19:05
calcwhere do we report spammers on lp?19:05
beunomwhudson, rockstar, thumper and I are going to hammer away at it19:06
calchttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openoffice.org/+bug/91291/comments/719:06
ubottuLaunchpad bug 91291 in openoffice.org "OOo 2.0.4 Ubuntu 64 Incorrect Print Alignment" [Undecided,Invalid]19:06
mthaddonbeuno, good to hear :)19:06
persiacalc, Those are usually deleted based on questions posted to answers against launchpad19:06
* beuno goes afk for 15 minutes19:07
thouwell, from my perspective, thanks for the fast response; and i'm sure you'll track down that leak, so thanks for the good work19:07
calcpersia: i file a question on b.l.n/launchpad?19:07
calcer a.l.n/launchpad apparently19:08
persiacalc, I believe so, although I'll admit I'm guessing.19:08
calcok19:10
calci posted to see :)19:10
timruffhello19:21
timruffi m have problem i'm don't know to change my adresse contact19:21
timruffit is possible to change it ?19:21
* Sidnei wonders if kiko arrived safely in the uk19:23
timruffmy old adresse don't run, don't receive message to 16 september19:23
timruffmy adresse is timruff@ifrance.com19:24
timruffi want to change by other19:24
timruffit is possible ?19:24
timruffi am alone here ?19:25
salgadotimruff, yes, go to https://launchpad.net/people/+me/+editemails19:25
beunoSidnei, he did  :)19:26
timruffyes but i m don't could ton chage my adresse contact19:26
timruffmy old adresse don't want to delete19:27
timruffThe message error is : There is error19:27
Sidneibeuno: thanks for letting me know!19:27
timruffYou can't remove timruff@ifrance.com because it's your contact email address.19:27
salgadotimruff, add another one first19:27
timruffyes im have to add other19:28
timruffbut alaiw the similar problem19:28
salgadotimruff, after you add a new one, you should get an email from Launchpad with instructions to confirm the new address. once you confirm it you'll be able to remove the old one19:29
timruffok19:29
timruffi m look19:30
timruffok thank you very much the new adresse run19:32
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* thumper hopes his adsl stays up...22:08
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