| MHz128 | hello world! | 01:19 |
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| MHz128 | Can anyone recomend a web browser for use on an old pc with little ram? Firefox uses upwards of 200mb with multiple pages... | 01:20 |
| charlie-tca | What about epiphany? I show about 75 MB with 8 tabs open | 01:24 |
| charlie-tca | That is, epiphany-gecko | 01:25 |
| zoredache | midori seems ok, but there are sites and things it doesn't support | 01:28 |
| MHz128 | charlie-tca, cool, ill give it a whirl | 01:36 |
| MHz128 | ah | 01:36 |
| * charlie-tca nods | 01:37 | |
| MHz128 | charlie-tca, how is Epiphany? will it display most everything? | 01:37 |
| charlie-tca | I don't do much video or such, so I don't know. It works with flash and javascript, though | 01:37 |
| MHz128 | neat | 01:37 |
| Odd-rationale | epiphany uses geck, so it will display exactly like mozilla firefox... | 01:38 |
| MHz128 | how do I edit the default xfce 'start' menu layout | 01:38 |
| Odd-rationale | ^gecko | 01:38 |
| Odd-rationale | the main difference is that ephany uses a gtk interface... Firefox uses xul... | 01:38 |
| MHz128 | ooh gtk is much better | 01:39 |
| charlie-tca | Odd-rationale: thanks for that; I didn't know the difference | 01:39 |
| Odd-rationale | well, the cool thing about xul is that it is more portable... same code on windows, mac, and linux... | 01:39 |
| Odd-rationale | however, epiphany will be switching to webkit instead of gecko, probably in the next gnome release... | 01:40 |
| charlie-tca | so if you use windows, firefox is easier, ? | 01:40 |
| MHz128 | what is webkit? | 01:40 |
| Odd-rationale | webkit is what midori uses... | 01:40 |
| MHz128 | and safari, correct? | 01:40 |
| Odd-rationale | it branched out of khtml. | 01:40 |
| Odd-rationale | MHz128: yeah... | 01:40 |
| MHz128 | is it better? | 01:40 |
| Odd-rationale | MHz128: depends who you ask... :P | 01:41 |
| MHz128 | there must be a reason epiphany is switching | 01:41 |
| MHz128 | gecko/FF seems rock solid | 01:41 |
| Odd-rationale | supposedly, webkit is lighter.... | 01:41 |
| MHz128 | cool | 01:42 |
| MHz128 | what does opera use? | 01:42 |
| Odd-rationale | this is what i read. webkit is lighter than gecko on first startup... but then, once you used it a lot the memory useage increases faster than gecko's mem usage... | 01:42 |
| * wormsxulla_ doesn't recommend opera 9.60 on xubuntu | 01:43 | |
| Odd-rationale | opera has there own engine... forgot the name... | 01:43 |
| Odd-rationale | Presto is the name... just looked it up... | 01:43 |
| Odd-rationale | Oh, and google chrome uses webkit too... | 01:44 |
| MHz128 | interesting | 01:45 |
| Odd-rationale | ie8 is going to suck... so i hear... | 01:47 |
| MHz128 | hmm, how do I install Midori? | 01:50 |
| MHz128 | cant find it in the package manager | 01:50 |
| Odd-rationale | !find midori | 01:50 |
| ubottu | Found: midori, midori-dbg | 01:50 |
| Odd-rationale | !info midori | 01:50 |
| ubottu | midori (source: midori): Fast and lightweight web browser. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.0.17-1ubuntu1 (hardy), package size 60 kB, installed size 232 kB | 01:51 |
| Odd-rationale | sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install midori | 01:51 |
| MHz128 | 10 4 thanks Odd-rationale | 01:51 |
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| FordPrefc | hi | 03:15 |
| FordPrefc | anyone install xubuntu on a imac g3? | 03:16 |
| crystalmath | Hey I need help with my desktop settings -- both the top and bottom panels have disappeared and I need to know how to get them back | 04:15 |
| crystalmath | Hello? I need help with getting the top and bottom panels back onto my desktop, please. | 04:20 |
| DCPom | !patience | 04:21 |
| ubottu | The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines | 04:21 |
| crystalmath | Sorry I wasn't aware of that. I was just told to come here. | 04:22 |
| crystalmath | Thanks for the link. | 04:22 |
| DCPom | crystalmath, can you open a terminal? | 04:28 |
| crystalmath | I just fixed it. . . just did a search. Bye | 04:28 |
| attickid | how can I change my keyboard layout? I change it but when I click in close then it returns to it default "use X configuration" | 04:37 |
| owen1 | function+f7 (video out) doesn't work on vaio. any ideas? | 04:50 |
| ball | Daviey: hey, this Xfce thing is somewhat tolerable! | 04:50 |
| ball | I imagine he's in bed, but there you go. | 04:51 |
| billykan3 | hi, i have an video file and i want to change its format (container) from xyz to mp4. i also need to resize the original video file, anyone can tell me wich software i do need to make those changes? | 05:23 |
| JinKazama | good morning | 05:55 |
| wormsxulla_ | hello | 07:07 |
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| llll | how do i edit a file in for some error i cant sudo? | 10:40 |
| Ben_Cs | hi guys | 10:51 |
| Ben_Cs | wanted to share with you: i just installed LINUX MINT XFCE CE, and man! it doesn't let me do things that i did without a problem in xubuntu. It's like it's strangling you. I'll stick to xubuntu :) | 10:53 |
| tyberion_ | ne1body knows of a way to make thunar be able to be browsed with jkih vimlike? :D:D | 10:59 |
| tyberion_ | hi btw | 10:59 |
| tyberion_ | -1 | 10:59 |
| Mispinov | I managed to break my computer's Master Boot Record while installing Xubuntu on a mobile hard drive - it just says "grub - error 21" and does nothing. | 11:45 |
| Mispinov | I'm attempting to use 'Super Grub Disk' to make a bootable USB super grub disk. | 11:46 |
| Mispinov | Hrm. Im currently running Xubuntu from the desktop CD and I've used the partition tool to make an ext3 partition on my USB drive, however I don't seem to have the permissions necessary to actually access it :s | 12:04 |
| Mispinov | Any tips on that one would be really helpful :s | 12:07 |
| Ben_Cs | hello | 13:41 |
| Ben_Cs | what's the command to get the advanced gui options? The option i'm looking for is disabling lag when entering password into synaptic. i get the lag when enabling xfce compositor | 13:42 |
| TheSheep | Ben_Cs: it's not an option, it's a bug | 14:04 |
| Ben_Cs | TheSheep: i found it: | 14:12 |
| Ben_Cs | gksu-properties | 14:13 |
| Ben_Cs | change the "grab mode" to disable | 14:13 |
| Ben_Cs | i always forget it | 14:13 |
| TheSheep | cool | 14:13 |
| Ben_Cs | i guess it is a bug, but it's a nice workarround too | 14:13 |
| victor__ | sorry to interupt, but I some help | 14:14 |
| Ben_Cs | TheSheep: tried the new LINUX MINT XFCE CE today. It's a too much strangling distro IMO. I doesn't let me do the things i do naturally in xubuntu, unless i go into the guts of it to find where's it constraining me. ahrrr! | 14:15 |
| TheSheep | nalioth: for example? | 14:16 |
| TheSheep | nalioth: sorry | 14:16 |
| TheSheep | Ben_Cs: example? | 14:16 |
| Ben_Cs | TheSheep: don't remember exactly, there were some with printer stuff, and other configurations. Never mind that. I'll stick to Xubuntu :) | 14:17 |
| victor__ | is there a quick way to reformat a flashdrive in xubuntu? | 14:19 |
| Solenoide | Hi, i've downloaded the xubuntu 8.04 livecd i386 disk, but it doesn't boot on my system, i'm using an old version of xubuntu | 14:31 |
| vidd | Solenoide, what are the stats of your system? | 14:44 |
| vidd | Im mostly concerned with ram | 14:45 |
| Solenoide | 230 mb or something like that | 14:46 |
| Solenoide | a duron 1.0 or something like that, really, it isn't my rig lol | 14:46 |
| vidd | the new live cd is a bit ram intensive | 14:46 |
| Solenoide | i installed the old xubuntu with the old livecd lol | 14:46 |
| vidd | if you are up and running with an older version, you can update via apt, or you can use the alt cd to install fresh | 14:47 |
| vidd | which "old version" did you use? | 14:47 |
| Solenoide | no, i had done that in the past and i got lots of broken packages | 14:47 |
| Solenoide | 7.04 | 14:47 |
| vidd | you have a seperate /home partition? | 14:48 |
| Solenoide | yes | 14:48 |
| vidd | get the alt cd | 14:48 |
| vidd | when you install, set the partitioner to "manual" | 14:48 |
| Solenoide | i'm trying to burn the livecd again. if it doesn't work i will use the alt | 14:48 |
| vidd | this way you can save your /home, | 14:49 |
| Solenoide | yes, i always install with manual partitioning | 14:49 |
| vidd | Solenoide, i will guarentee the live wont work with less then 256 mb of ram | 14:49 |
| Solenoide | it's already burning, so it doesn´t matter lol | 14:49 |
| Woo | Where can I submit a bug? | 16:20 |
| Odd-rationale | !bugs | 16:21 |
| ubottu | If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu - Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots | 16:21 |
| charlie-tca | I gotta remember that one, Odd-rationale | 16:21 |
| Woo | There is no adress I can send it to? =/ | 16:21 |
| Odd-rationale | launchpad.net | 16:21 |
| Woo | It looks like a beetle, but I think it is unknown. | 16:22 |
| vidd | Woo, you want to email a bug? | 16:22 |
| Woo | No, mail. | 16:22 |
| vidd | ???? | 16:22 |
| charlie-tca | \o? | 16:22 |
| charlie-tca | \o/ | 16:22 |
| vidd | Woo, what did you find? | 16:22 |
| Woo | I don't like touching it :S | 16:23 |
| Odd-rationale | if it is a real live animal bug, then the best place to put it is under you shoe... | 16:24 |
| * charlie-tca nods at Odd-rationale | 16:24 | |
| vidd | soooo.... Woo is it a software glitch? | 16:27 |
| Woo | Well, yeah | 16:28 |
| vidd | ok...what is the issue? | 16:28 |
| Woo | Oh I'm reporting it now | 16:28 |
| Odd-rationale | paste the launchpad url in here, when you are done... | 16:28 |
| vidd | have you checked to see if it has already been reported? | 16:28 |
| Woo | Yes, none of the suggestions matched | 16:29 |
| vidd | post the link when submitted? | 16:29 |
| Woo | Here it is: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=878895 | 16:30 |
| vidd | looks like issue one would be a bug against samba | 16:32 |
| vidd | dunno what the second bug would be against | 16:32 |
| vidd | although...i would personally set up FTP server on your linux box rather then use samba shares (but that is just me) | 16:34 |
| charlie-tca | Shouldn't they both be samba? They are both windows/ubuntu transfers | 16:34 |
| charlie-tca | Depends on what the network is using, though. Could be NFS? | 16:34 |
| vidd | charlie-tca, i never streamed video...so i dont know if its samba related or not | 16:35 |
| Woo | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/284480 | 16:35 |
| vidd | but i would think that streaming video would be related to his apache server | 16:35 |
| charlie-tca | Got it. | 16:36 |
| vidd | can you even stream video thru samba? | 16:36 |
| * charlie-tca going back to my own bugs | 16:36 | |
| Woo | yes | 16:36 |
| * vidd doesnt use samba | 16:36 | |
| Woo | i just drag and drop something from browsing the shared folder in windows explorer | 16:36 |
| * vidd tries very hard to keep the virus-magnets away from direct access to his linux machines | 16:37 | |
| Woo | i haven't had a virus since like 2004 | 16:37 |
| vidd | *that your aware of* | 16:37 |
| vidd | =] | 16:37 |
| Woo | well i wouldn't be more aware if my linux box had either | 16:38 |
| vidd | sure you would... | 16:38 |
| vidd | if your linux box had a virus, you'd have to make it exicutable.... | 16:38 |
| vidd | and then run it as root | 16:39 |
| Woo | i enter my password for anything that asks in ubuntu | 16:39 |
| Woo | i do it too many times already IMO, it's like UAC in Vista | 16:39 |
| vidd | you chmod anything? | 16:39 |
| Woo | yes, once | 16:39 |
| Woo | no | 16:39 |
| Woo | chown | 16:39 |
| vidd | its rare to have to chmod something | 16:40 |
| Woo | by the way, ubuntu is mainly powered from one guys fortune for selling his internet company. i heard he went to space as well. what happens when he runs out of money? | 16:40 |
| vidd | unless you are working with servers | 16:40 |
| Woo | that's what i reckoned reading wikipedia, i'm not super certain. | 16:41 |
| vidd | if im not mistaken, ubuntu is powered by the comunity | 16:43 |
| Woo | yeah, but canonical, the servers etc. | 16:43 |
| vidd | with generous donations from the company you mentioned | 16:44 |
| Woo | what happens if they run out of money? | 16:44 |
| vidd | they go out of business | 16:44 |
| vidd | but ubuntu will continue on without them | 16:44 |
| Woo | and ubuntu? | 16:44 |
| Woo | will you support the usermass? | 16:45 |
| vidd | people will donate time/serverspace | 16:45 |
| Mixed_--_ | anyone knows of multiplayer network games that work on xubuntu and that does not consume a lot of resources? | 16:56 |
| Woo | wc3 | 16:57 |
| Mixed_--_ | warcraft? that's boring! I prefer stellar crisis over that, i'll ask my nieces if they like the game though, thanks | 16:59 |
| Mixed_--_ | anyone knows of multiplayer network games that work on xubuntu and that does not consume a lot of resources? | 17:09 |
| Woo | why not just install windows and select from millions of titles? :) | 17:09 |
| Mixed_--_ | woo, i do have windows installed, it is extremely slow on this PIII machine with dual processors and I would have to shell out a lot of $$$ for any game | 17:14 |
| Mixed_--_ | woo, plus there is one requirement for the game that automatically rules out wintendo, "that does not consume a lot of resources" | 17:14 |
| * Markimus has killed his MBR, currently running Xubuntu from the DesktopCD, could really use a hand fixing this poor puppy :< | 17:17 | |
| Woo | Hehe Mixed :P | 17:31 |
| Woo | That's got to suck | 17:31 |
| Woo | I was actually playing with a PIII processor I had on the shelf just now | 17:31 |
| Woo | are you in the usa with the fiancial crisis and all? | 17:33 |
| Woo | how about defcon? | 17:36 |
| Woo | or multiwina? | 17:36 |
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| Mixed_--_ | woo, im in the financial crisis capital, ny | 17:53 |
| vidd | Mixed_--_, are you looking for MMORPG? | 17:54 |
| Mixed_--_ | vidd, no, i am looking for multiplayer network games that run on xubuntu and that does not consume a lot of resources so i can play with the family :-) | 17:55 |
| vidd | Mixed_--_, can you give a windows-based game as a "for example"? | 17:56 |
| vidd | because i have no idea what you might possibly mean | 17:57 |
| Mixed_--_ | vidd, a game like a racing game where 2 players can play at the same time, or shoot 'em, or basically any game where 2 players or more can play at the same time | 18:00 |
| vidd | ic | 18:00 |
| vidd | nothing rings a bell....but i dont really play those types of games | 18:01 |
| Mixed_--_ | vidd, thanks anyway | 18:01 |
| Woo | try to go to a gamer site from 2001 or something using the web archive | 18:02 |
| vidd | Mixed_--_, have you seen this thread? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=42368 | 18:04 |
| Mixed_--_ | vidd, i just found 2 excellent games in "add/remove", battleship and "jump 'n bump" | 18:07 |
| Woo | in norway you would find computers like that on the dumpster | 18:08 |
| Mixed_--_ | vidd, I shouldve googled those terms! LoL thanks!!!! | 18:08 |
| Woo | btw mixed. how much does a kw hour cost in NY? | 18:08 |
| vidd | Mixed_--_, happy i could help | 18:09 |
| vidd | i may not know games...but i know google =] | 18:09 |
| Mixed_--_ | woo, youre a wintendo user, what else do i need to say? | 18:09 |
| Mixed_--_ | vidd LoL | 18:09 |
| Woo | sorry? | 18:10 |
| Woo | do you have a server mobo? it amazes me it lasts so long. mine only lasts 3-4 years | 18:11 |
| Mixed_--_ | woo, i have a PIII that's lasted me for about 7 years, i pulled it out of the closet because I began learning linux and now im going to use that PIII as a SERVER, try doing that with your beloved wintendo system O_o | 18:12 |
| Woo | well, i would have less problems if i ran windows server 2003 rather than ubuntu 8.04 on my "server" box | 18:14 |
| Woo | i don't mind linux in general, just that things seem to work better in windows. like drivers and other annoyances. be it whoevers fault. i'm thinking of getting a macbook to replace my laptop in a few years, once it has the portable i7 and SSD as standard. | 18:16 |
| Woo | but how much is it per kw/H? | 18:16 |
| TheSheep | !ot | Woo | 18:17 |
| ubottu | Woo: #xubuntu is the Xubuntu support channel, #xubuntu-devel for discussion regarding development of Xubuntu, and #xubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome! | 18:17 |
| Woo | yeah, i was leaving here anyway | 18:18 |
| vidd | 236 | 18:18 |
| vidd | whoops | 18:18 |
| vidd | wrong window! | 18:18 |
| TheSheep | vidd: the nuber you are trying to reach is imaginary, please rotate your phone by pi/2 and try again | 18:19 |
| * charlie-tca hates doing that, vidd | 18:20 | |
| MHz128 | hello world | 19:18 |
| MHz128 | I have an older Toshiba laptop running xubuntu, is there a solution for switching the video output from laptop LCD to VGA output? | 19:19 |
| TheSheep | xrandr | 19:20 |
| MHz128 | Fn+F5 used to work with windows that it originally came installed with | 19:20 |
| MHz128 | TheSheep, could you show me a quick example? | 19:22 |
| vidd | MHz128, if the Fn+F5 worked in windows, it should work in linux | 19:22 |
| TheSheep | MHz128: how can I show you? | 19:23 |
| vidd | its a function of the bios and not the OS | 19:23 |
| MHz128 | vidd, Id like to think so, but it doesn't..... | 19:23 |
| vidd | then install xrandr | 19:23 |
| vidd | as TheSheep suggested | 19:23 |
| MHz128 | 10 4 | 19:23 |
| MHz128 | is xrandr a built in linux tool? or specific to ubuntu? | 19:24 |
| vidd | dunno about that.... | 19:24 |
| TheSheep | it's pretty common, but it's not part of the kernel, if that's what you mean | 19:24 |
| vidd | but sudo apt-get install xrandr brought it up 4 me | 19:24 |
| MHz128 | xrandr --output XID | 19:24 |
| TheSheep | I think it's part of xorg | 19:25 |
| MHz128 | how do I determine what the XID for VGA output? | 19:25 |
| MHz128 | TheSheep, cool | 19:25 |
| TheSheep | MHz128: if you have the monitor connected, xrandr --auto should just work | 19:25 |
| MHz128 | ok | 19:25 |
| MHz128 | is there a way to switch it back, incase it doesn't work? | 19:25 |
| TheSheep | disconnect the screen and run xrandr --auto again -- that's what I do anyways | 19:26 |
| TheSheep | MHz128: man xrandr and xrandr --help will give you much more detail, also google | 19:27 |
| MHz128 | ya but how can I run it, if I cant see the lcd? | 19:27 |
| TheSheep | MHz128: well, you have to remember what keys you are pressing without looking at the screen. you can use a piece of paper and make notes if you can't remember | 19:27 |
| MHz128 | hahahah | 19:28 |
| TheSheep | MHz128: in the worst case, alt+ctrl+backspace will restart X | 19:28 |
| MHz128 | could I make a script triggered by a keystroke? | 19:28 |
| TheSheep | sure | 19:28 |
| TheSheep | I have it bound to alt+f3 | 19:28 |
| TheSheep | in the keyboard settings | 19:29 |
| MHz128 | ohhhhh i get it | 19:29 |
| MHz128 | I didn't know I could add command lines to keyboard settings | 19:29 |
| MHz128 | TheSheep, interesting! While using VLC to play a video, it only gets displayed on the LCD and not the monitor | 19:41 |
| MHz128 | any ideas? | 19:41 |
| TheSheep | MHz128: it uses overlay | 19:43 |
| MHz128 | ?? | 19:43 |
| TheSheep | MHz128: you can somehow set which display is the "main" one and gets the overlays displayed | 19:43 |
| TheSheep | MHz128: it's a hardware video acceleration | 19:43 |
| MHz128 | set that option in vlc? | 19:44 |
| TheSheep | MHz128: the video is actually overlaid by the card itself in the proper place | 19:44 |
| MHz128 | thats werid, some files work automaticall | 19:44 |
| MHz128 | while others dont | 19:44 |
| TheSheep | "files work"? | 19:45 |
| MHz128 | some video files are displayed on both screens, while others are only displayed on the LCD | 19:45 |
| TheSheep | the ones that can be accelerated are only displayed on one, I guess | 19:46 |
| MHz128 | I dont quite understand how to fix this issure | 19:46 |
| MHz128 | issue | 19:46 |
| TheSheep | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3467287#post3467287 | 19:48 |
| MHz128 | TheSheep, you are the man | 19:49 |
| * TheSheep can google ;) | 19:49 | |
| MHz128 | I can google too, but I have a hard time figuring out what to search for! ahhaha | 19:50 |
| TheSheep | yes, knowing the right words help | 19:51 |
| TheSheep | s | 19:51 |
| MHz128 | TheSheep, why are you running xfce and not gnome? | 19:52 |
| TheSheep | MHz128: I like it more | 19:52 |
| TheSheep | MHz128: there is a million of tiny details | 19:53 |
| MHz128 | good answer | 19:53 |
| MHz128 | which web browser do you use? | 19:53 |
| MHz128 | This machine can barely run Firefox... uses up to much memory | 19:53 |
| TheSheep | MHz128: you could try epiphany with webkit, but it's still experimental and not everything works | 19:54 |
| TheSheep | MHz128: (opening links with middle click and sites that prompt for passwords, in particular) | 19:54 |
| MHz128 | when will the epiphany/webkit project be finished? | 19:55 |
| TheSheep | when it's finished ;) | 19:55 |
| MHz128 | hehehe | 19:55 |
| MHz128 | webkit is better than gecko? | 19:55 |
| MHz128 | or the opera one | 19:55 |
| TheSheep | it's a volunteer project, you see | 19:55 |
| TheSheep | MHz128: it's different, allegedly faster and less memory-hungry | 19:55 |
| TheSheep | MHz128: google has decided to use it in their browser | 19:56 |
| MHz128 | did Apple copy/use webkit for safari? thats the story I keep hearing | 19:56 |
| TheSheep | wbkit is for safari what gecko is for firefox | 19:56 |
| TheSheep | webkit was developed for safari | 19:57 |
| TheSheep | then they opensourced it and ported to qt for konqueror and to webkit-gtk for gtk apps, but the work goes slowly | 19:57 |
| TheSheep | and by "they" I don't mean only apple guys | 19:58 |
| MHz128 | The story I heard was that Safari was copied from konqueror? | 19:58 |
| MHz128 | hehe | 19:58 |
| TheSheep | MHz128: they cooperated for some time | 19:58 |
| MHz128 | so, are there any browsers currently using webkit? for linux? | 19:58 |
| TheSheep | MHz128: I think it's similar to how OSX is 'copied' from BSD | 19:59 |
| MHz128 | it is copied...... isn't it? | 19:59 |
| TheSheep | MHz128: epiphany, midori, and probably konqueror (not sure) | 19:59 |
| MHz128 | midori doesn't seem to work very well, wont even display the Google logo | 19:59 |
| TheSheep | It's extremely hard to write a web browser. I know, I tried. | 20:00 |
| MHz128 | I understand, I am not a coder | 20:00 |
| TheSheep | if you don't need css, you can try dillo | 20:01 |
| TheSheep | or even w3m | 20:01 |
| TheSheep | it has a plugin to display images | 20:02 |
| TheSheep | depends on your needs | 20:02 |
| MHz128 | are they even faster? | 20:02 |
| TheSheep | w3m is basically text-based | 20:02 |
| MHz128 | epiphany with gecko runs fine. opera is too much java for me | 20:02 |
| TheSheep | opera is not java, it's qt | 20:03 |
| MHz128 | oops | 20:03 |
| MHz128 | QT is what GTK is correct? | 20:04 |
| MHz128 | GUI api? | 20:04 |
| TheSheep | gui toolkit, yes | 20:05 |
| MHz128 | all KDE apps are written with QT and Gnome with GTK? | 20:06 |
| TheSheep | qt, gtk, wx, tcl/tk, java swing, etc. | 20:06 |
| MHz128 | which is better? | 20:06 |
| TheSheep | yes | 20:06 |
| TheSheep | apples and oranges | 20:06 |
| TheSheep | they are different, one is better in one thing, other is better at other things | 20:07 |
| MHz128 | interesting | 20:07 |
| MHz128 | QT has an ugly default font | 20:08 |
| TheSheep | MHz128: it's all ugly by default, KDE has some nice themes and default settings that make it nicer | 20:11 |
| TheSheep | MHz128: you can install qt-config and the polymer theme, that will make it look a little better | 20:11 |
| MHz128 | I'll have to try it out! | 20:12 |
| TheSheep | I think they are working on qt theme that allowsy ou to use gtk themes in it | 20:13 |
| TheSheep | there is such a thing for gtk already | 20:13 |
| MHz128 | that would be cool! there doesn't seem to be a lot of compatibility between qt/gtk... When I run gnome apps in KDE they appear 'ugly' | 20:15 |
| TheSheep | MHz128: you can use that gtk-qt theme | 20:16 |
| TheSheep | http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/gtk-qt | 20:16 |
| MHz128 | will that work for KDE apps in Gnome? that would be the best of both worlds | 20:16 |
| TheSheep | nope, there was some work on that, but can't find it | 20:17 |
| TheSheep | it's for gtk apps in KDE | 20:17 |
| MHz128 | gotcha | 20:17 |
| MHz128 | Im currently using xfce/gnome/kde.... cant figure out which I like best yet | 20:17 |
| jarnos | Is there a way to see how big portion of updating process is done when (security) updating is done automatically? Is there a way to pause (automatic) updating possibly even over a reboot? Is there a way to see which application is downloading or uploading somthing from network? | 20:30 |
| MHz128 | sudo -r Videos gives me the error "Read only file system" | 20:33 |
| MHz128 | whats going on? | 20:33 |
| MHz128 | its a flash drive! | 20:33 |
| MHz128 | nevermind, if you boot with the drive it recognizes it as root | 20:36 |
| MHz128 | weird | 20:36 |
| joe_ | Hello all | 21:17 |
| joe_ | Is there a util to configure screen res and monitor in XFCE? | 21:18 |
| DFlame | Applications > Settings > Settings manager > Display ? | 21:20 |
| TheSheep | joe_: sudo gtk-displayconfig | 21:24 |
| TheSheep | oops, sorry | 21:24 |
| TheSheep | sudo displayconfig-gtk | 21:24 |
| joe_ | I will give it a shot. Thanks | 21:25 |
| ball | Daviey, wake up! :-) | 22:20 |
| Flare183 | danopia_: ? | 22:48 |
| Flare183 | I didn't know you were in here? | 22:49 |
| Flare183 | here.* | 22:49 |
| DarkDevil | hi | 23:28 |
| DarkDevil | hello | 23:28 |
| blackangel | hi | 23:29 |
| blackangel | hola | 23:29 |
| blackangel | how are your | 23:29 |
| blackangel | my name is | 23:29 |
| blackangel | perro | 23:30 |
| Ultraputz | ahoy | 23:44 |
| Ultraputz | so I'm looking at "Window manager tweaks" and noting the "key to grab and move windows" box... | 23:45 |
| Ultraputz | meta, hyper, super, modX ? | 23:45 |
| Ultraputz | where are these assigned? | 23:45 |
| Ultraputz | and also, where is the setting that causes window-shading via mouse clicks? | 23:45 |
| scru1 | Hello | 23:47 |
| scru1 | Can anyone tell me how to turn off xserver? I need to fiddle with graphics drivers | 23:48 |
| Ultraputz | what do you mean 'turn it off' ? | 23:49 |
| Ultraputz | prevent it from launching when you log in? | 23:49 |
| scru1 | Yeah | 23:50 |
| Ultraputz | login in maintenance mode | 23:50 |
| Ultraputz | reboot the box, hit esc to enter grub | 23:50 |
| Ultraputz | and select the option to boot to shell | 23:50 |
| Ultraputz | maintenance mode or whatever it's called. | 23:50 |
| scru1 | alrite thanks | 23:51 |
| Ultraputz | good luck -- graphics drivers for x are a pain in the ... | 23:51 |
| scru1 | D: | 23:51 |
| DCPom | Ultraputz, Super is the windows key; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meta_key ; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyper_key ; | 23:52 |
| scru1 | Also, how can I search for files in xfce? I can't see an option anywhere | 23:55 |
| Ultraputz | do you have any kind of search tool enabled, like beagle? | 23:55 |
| Ultraputz | if so, you can right-click on a panel and 'add new item' | 23:56 |
| Ultraputz | in teh list of items should be a search tool of some kind or another. | 23:56 |
| Ultraputz | DCPom - tanks! | 23:56 |
| Ultraputz | er, thanks. i doubt you need a tank. :-) | 23:56 |
| scru1 | Doesn't seem to be one by default in that case, will just have to install one. Thanks. | 23:57 |
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