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* krash nods00:02
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* GeOcs .00:06
* GeOcs can anyone help me install a leadtek tv tunner on ubuntu?!00:06
CoJaBo-Eeelol my tuner installed so easily it was scary o_O00:08
xwebwhat tuner do you have00:09
CoJaBo-EeeHaupage USB2 or something like that. I plugged it in and it just worked. No drivers, no buggy install/configure apps, no BSODs o_O00:10
xwebwow00:11
CoJaBo-EeeAnd all I needed to watch TV was VLC, which I already had!00:11
CoJaBo-EeeNow if only WiFi worked like that in Linux lol00:12
xwebWhat wifi card do you have?00:13
klaiвсем привет00:14
klaihai ppl00:14
klaii am need analog gconf-editor in KDE ?!00:14
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xwebklai: What are you trying to do?00:15
xwebCoJaBo-Eee: If you know what wifi card you habe i may be able to help you get it working.00:16
CoJaBo-Eeexweb: RaLink00:17
xwebopen a console and type $ lspci | grep 80200:18
xwebthis will let you see the chipset.00:18
CoJaBo-EeeIt is detected and works now, it just fails connecting to my network on 90-97% of attempts.00:19
xwebOo ok.00:19
CoJaBo-EeeI just need to figure out how to fix that, or at least get a more specific error.00:20
assperohola00:24
assperoalgien por ay????00:24
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eduardo_#brasil00:30
poleteSection "ServerLayout"00:32
polete    Identifier     "Layout0"00:32
polete    Screen      0  "Screen0" 0 000:32
polete    InputDevice    "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"00:32
polete    InputDevice    "Mouse0" "CorePointer"00:32
poleteEndSection00:32
poleteSection "Files"00:32
poleteEndSection00:32
poleteSection "Module"00:32
polete    Load           "dbe"00:32
polete    Load           "extmod"00:32
polete    Load           "type1"00:32
polete    Load           "freetype"00:32
polete    Load           "glx"00:32
poleteEndSection00:32
poleteSection "ServerFlags"00:32
polete    Option         "Xinerama" "0"00:32
poleteEndSection00:32
poleteSection "InputDevice"00:32
polete    # generated from default00:32
polete    Identifier     "Mouse0"00:32
CoJaBo-Eeeo_O00:32
polete    Driver         "mouse"00:32
polete    Option         "Protocol" "auto"00:32
polete    Option         "Device" "/dev/psaux"00:33
polete    Option         "Emulate3Buttons" "no"00:33
polete    Option         "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"00:33
poleteEndSection00:33
poleteSection "InputDevice"00:33
polete    # generated from default00:33
polete    Identifier     "Keyboard0"00:33
polete    Driver         "kbd"00:33
poleteEndSection00:33
poleteSection "Monitor"00:33
polete    # HorizSync source: edid, VertRefresh source: edid00:33
polete    Identifier     "Monitor0"00:33
unity`Buntuwoah..00:33
polete    VendorName     "Unknown"00:33
polete    ModelName      "Samsung SyncMaster"00:33
polete    HorizSync       30.0 - 55.000:33
polete    VertRefresh     50.0 - 120.000:33
unity`Buntuwhy are you putting this in here...00:33
polete    Option         "DPMS"00:33
poleteEndSection00:33
poleteSection "Device"00:33
polete    Identifier     "Device0"00:33
polete    Driver         "nvidia"00:33
CoJaBo-EeeIts still going...00:33
polete    VendorName     "NVIDIA Corporation"00:33
polete    BoardName      "GeForce 7300 LE"00:33
poleteEndSection00:33
poleteSection "Screen"00:33
polete    Identifier     "Screen0"00:33
polete    Device         "Device0"00:33
polete    Monitor        "Monitor0"00:33
polete    DefaultDepth    2400:34
polete    Option         "TwinView" "0"00:34
polete    Option         "TwinViewXineramaInfoOrder" "CRT-0"00:34
polete    Option         "metamodes" "1152x864_60 +0+0"00:34
polete    SubSection     "Display"00:34
polete        Depth       2400:34
polete    EndSubSection00:34
poleteEndSection00:34
poletesorry00:34
poletesorry  is a wrong me00:34
unity`Buntuis it over?00:34
CoJaBo-Eeelol00:34
poletei need the change the resolution of my computer  i cant00:36
poleteayyyy i am very crazy00:36
polete:(00:36
brewmasterany pine / gmail users here?  I can't get pine saving sent e-mails to gmail's imap/sent mail folder...00:36
poletesorry mans any person speak spanis becouse the canal spanish nothing     :(00:41
unity`Buntuhey..00:43
unity`Buntui need some help editing my session..00:43
unity`Buntucompiz keeps crashing kde-window-decorator00:44
unity`Buntusomeone told me, i should try emerald.00:44
unity`Buntuand tey said i should add emerald --replace to my session00:45
unity`Buntuanyone?00:46
CoJaBo-Eee?00:47
unity`Buntuim supposed to add emerald --replace to my session..00:47
dr_willisunity`Buntu,  i tend to just install that fusion-icon tool to handle it.00:49
dr_willishttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion00:49
polete:)00:49
unity`Buntuhmm00:49
dr_willis!info fusion-icon00:50
ubottufusion-icon (source: fusion-icon): tray icon to launch and manage Compiz Fusion. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.0.0+git20071028-2ubuntu2 (hardy), package size 29 kB, installed size 264 kB00:50
poletedelete xor.conf00:50
polete:)    one more  time start of   zero   garrr                :)00:50
* GeOcs can anyone guide me how to install a winfast tv2000 RM on Ubuntu?00:51
dr_willischeck google to see how well supported it is undder linux, plug it in.. power up.. pray..00:53
dr_willis:)00:53
mneptok"win*" in the name is usually a pretty good indicator ...00:54
dr_willisTotally depends on the chipset. You may want to check the MythBuntu forums also to see how well that card is supported00:55
GeOcsaw man, to manny new words, and others for me00:57
GeOcsmy head is starting to hurt :)00:57
krashwtf is azureus called Vuze now?00:59
krashguess so, weird01:00
Agent_bob!schedual01:08
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about schedual01:08
Agent_bob@schedual01:08
dr_williskrash,  yea. they are trying to push a 'service' and make the software appear to have a legal use. :)01:10
Agent_bobdr_willis which software ?01:10
dr_willisVuze/Azurus01:11
dr_willisor however ya spell it01:11
Agent_bobheh oh.01:11
dr_willishttp://www.vuze.com/app01:11
dr_willisSeems they are  sort of making deals with divx.com also..  interesting gizmo they are advertising   http://www.divx.com/connected/buyconnected/01:13
dr_willisD-Link DivX Connected HD Media Player (DSM-330) But its $214  - wonder if it runs linux. :)01:14
zero__hay alguien que hable español01:14
Agent_bob!es01:15
ubottuEn la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.01:15
zero__gracias01:15
Agent_bobhmmm i just started three different x sessions one using kde one using gnome and one using xfce4, now my system is using Memory Used/Total Percent: 111/502 MB (22%)01:19
Agent_bobi can live with that.01:19
oliver__hi01:23
oliver__can someone help me?01:23
oliver__annyone?01:24
oliver__hi01:24
dr_willisand the question is?01:24
oliver__well i cant go above 800x600 on my computer01:24
oliver__im on ubuntu01:24
oliver__and i could when i was on windows01:24
oliver__can u help me?01:25
dr_willisInstall the proper video card drivers for your video card.01:25
dr_willis!nvidia01:25
ubottuFor Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto01:25
oliver__i cant find it01:25
oliver__i have a 3dfx voodoo301:25
oliver__thank you01:25
DarthFrog!tdfx01:27
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about tdfx01:27
DarthFrogThe tdfx driver is for Voodoo cards.01:27
dr_willisEgads... you have one of those? :)01:27
dr_willisI used those years ago.. not sure how well supported they are any more.01:28
DarthFrogI just took a Voodoo5 card out of one of my machines. :-)01:28
dr_willisCutting edge! :001:28
oliver__that didnt work01:28
DasEiwhats the corresponding cmd to gnome-panel in kde ?01:28
DarthFrogWorked fine for what I used it for. :-)01:28
oliver__i did all it said01:28
oliver__it said to run hardware drivers01:29
oliver__and select the driver01:29
oliver__but its blank01:29
oliver__after i ran the terminal and ran the scripts01:29
oliver__help?01:30
DarthFrogoliver__: Sorry.  I've not anything to suggest.01:30
oliver__:-(01:31
Agent_bobusing the vesa module (driver) will get you higher resolution, but not 3d support01:31
oliver__ive been trying 2 sort this for ages01:31
oliver__ive gone on every form01:31
oliver__and ppl have said things have sorted theres01:31
oliver__its recognising theres a video card there in the terminal01:31
DarthFrogoliver__: Do you need 3D?01:31
oliver__but nothing in hardware01:32
oliver__i dont know01:32
oliver__im new 2 ubuntu01:32
oliver__i only deal with the internet01:32
DarthFrogNo games?01:32
oliver__but my websit isnt working for me01:32
oliver__i dont do games01:32
DarthFrogWhy not buy an inexpensive modern card?01:32
DarthFrogSave you the grief.01:33
oliver__because i got dissmised out of college the other day01:33
oliver__and i have no job01:33
NickPresta!ping01:33
ubottuping yourself ;-) really the diodes all down my left side are sore01:33
oliver__so i have no money01:33
* Agent_bob never ever suggests buying hardware to support software.01:33
DarthFrogWell, I can't argue with your reasons.01:33
oliver__besides i may aswell buy a new computer if i could afford it this used 2 have windows 9801:34
DarthFrogAgent_bob: You must be willing to =put up with a lot of grief.01:34
oliver__i have autism i dont kare01:34
Agent_bobDarthFrog grief ?   what grief ?01:34
oliver__but things do aannoy me01:34
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oliver__i dont kare about grief01:34
oliver__i'll do annything01:34
DarthFrogAgent_bob: Well, the kind of grief that oliver__ is going through to get his obsolete hardware working.01:34
oliver__cos my website will be my income01:34
Agent_boboliver__ try using the vesa 'driver'01:35
* DarthFrog agrees with Agent_bob01:35
oliver__the what?01:35
oliver__my ubuntu is different (ultimate)01:35
oliver__i dont know that i have that01:35
Agent_bobVESA01:35
oliver__how do i run it?01:35
DarthFrogoliver__: It's a common denominator video driver.01:36
Agent_bobsudo dpkg-recongifure xserver-xorg      ?01:36
oliver__what do i do?01:36
Agent_bobchoose VESA as the vidio driver01:36
oliver__oh terminal01:36
oliver__i h8 that01:36
oliver__just loads of wrighting01:36
oliver__my m8 knows all the commands off by heart01:37
oliver__even he cant figure this out01:37
oliver__its saying command not found01:37
Agent_bobheh i typo.01:38
oliver__how do i choose vesa?01:38
Agent_bobsudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg      ?01:38
oliver__1 sec i have like 20 different terminals01:38
oliver__this is the programmers eddition (ultimate)01:38
oliver__uhhhh...01:39
oliver__is it meant 2 be blue?01:39
oliver__do i want to use the kernel fra,ebuffer device interface?01:40
oliver__hello?01:40
NickPrestaoliver__, no, probably not. I would use the default01:40
oliver__ok01:41
DarthFrog!framebuffer01:41
ubottuInformation about changing your framebuffer modes in GRUB can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FrameBuffer#grub01:41
oliver__whats a keybord variant?01:41
NickPrestaoliver__, you probably just want us, standard (104 keys)01:42
NickPrestayou can change it later01:42
DarthFrogoliver__: Various types of keyboard.  You probably have a 104 key US standard.01:42
oliver__now its telling me no such device01:42
oliver__xserver-xorg postinst warning: overwriting possibly-customised configuration01:42
oliver__   file; backup in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.2008101701423001:42
oliver__FATAL: Error inserting battery (/lib/modules/2.6.24-21-generic/kernel/drivers/acpi/battery.ko): No such device01:42
DarthFrogoliver__: If it offers a default, accept it.01:43
Agent_boboliver__ as per using kernel frame buffer within xorg  NOPE01:43
oliver__its the terminal01:43
DarthFrogoliver__: Is this for a laptop machine?01:43
oliver__no01:43
Agent_bobwith a voodoo3 DarthFrog ?01:43
oliver__really old noisy desktop lol01:43
oliver__a 3dfx voodoo301:44
oliver__thats it01:44
DarthFrogOh right.  Ignore the error about the battery.01:44
oliver__from 199801:44
oliver__ok01:44
oliver__is that it?01:44
oliver__its just the terminal now01:44
Agent_bobsudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart01:45
NickPrestaoliver__, thats good. You can restart X now to apply the changes. Logout, select Restart X from the menu there. Come back here if it doesn't work01:45
oliver__will thatn restart my pc?01:45
Agent_bobnope01:45
Agent_bobjust xorg01:45
oliver__i dont know what that is01:45
vossI wish we could have Kubuntu 8.1 with a kde 301:45
oliver__remember i only deal with web01:45
Agent_bob!Xorg01:45
ubottuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto01:45
NickPrestaoliver__, you're restarting the thing that draws all the stuff on the screen01:45
oliver__kk01:46
oliver__now what? lol01:46
NickPrestaoliver__, what do you mean?01:46
oliver__its the kernel again01:46
baudthiefI'm at work and only have SSH/shell access to my box, is there any way to configure krfb via shell to enable uninvited connections?01:46
oliver__...01:46
vossHey are we gonna get a Kubuntu upgrade that actually works by Oct 30th?01:46
oliver__wha?01:46
oliver__y not get ubuntu?01:47
NickPrestavoss, works? ;)01:47
oliver__isnt it better than kubuntu01:47
oliver__i have ubuntu ultimate01:47
oliver__its the best os ever01:47
baudthiefbaudthief gets it :P01:47
NickPresta!best01:47
ubottuUsually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.01:47
oliver__still no hardware drivers bt the way01:47
vossNick, Ubuntu with kde 3.5.10 works great, Kubuntu with kde 4.1 doesnt01:47
Agent_bob*buntu = *buntu = *buntu01:47
oliver__i did that01:48
oliver__it didnt work01:48
Agent_boboliver__ so do you have higher resolution or not ?01:48
oliver__it broke gnome01:48
oliver__im looking01:48
NickPrestavoss, if you're having a specific problem with KDE 4.X, you can ask in #kubuntu-kde4. If you're just upset with KDE4 in general, perhaps voicing your concerns in #kde might help?01:48
Agent_bobbroke gnome ?    you'll have to qualify that.01:48
oliver__um...01:48
dr_willisI imagine theres  a kde forums thats best to 'rant' :)01:48
oliver__no01:49
ign0ramusNickPresta: you may know the answer to this: When dropping to commandline (ctrl+alt+F1), what's the proper way to log back into your session?01:49
oliver__i h8 kde01:49
dr_willisThe joy of linux.. use what you like..01:49
vossNick so far I havent been able to sucessfully upgrade from 8.04 to 8.1 on any machine,01:49
Agent_bobso why are you in the kde specific channel then oliver__ ?01:49
ign0ramusNickPresta: I'm currently killing Xorg, and then issuing "startx", but I know that can't be right01:49
oliver__my resolution still wont go up01:49
DarthFrogign0ramus: Alt-F701:50
ign0ramusDarthFrog: hmm... have not tried that01:50
NickPrestaign0ramus, I try Alt+F7 or startx. >_>01:50
ign0ramusNickPresta: but you have to kill Xorg before starting X or you get an error01:50
NickPrestavoss, I can't speak for 8.10 right now. 8.10 isn't out as a public release yet, AFAIK01:50
oliver__my friend has 8.1001:51
DarthFrogNickPresta: It's a publically released beta.  Beta 2, in fact.01:51
dr_willisi often kill gdm/kdm and startx  - so i can see the x logs easier01:51
NickPrestaign0ramus, well, if you simply dropped to CLI then Alt+f7 should bring you back.01:51
oliver__he knows all the termina; commands off by heart lol01:51
vossNick, usually the betas work fine with minor bugs01:51
oliver__and he uses vista mostly01:51
ign0ramusNickPresta: that's what i needed.  thx to you and DarthFrog01:51
DarthFrogvoss: That's been my experience so far with 64 bit Intrepid Kubuntu.01:51
vossDarth what hardware are you using?01:52
NickPrestavoss, well, if you're having trouble with 8.10, talk to the people in #ubuntu+1. Otherwise, I'm afraid I can't speak for intrepid01:52
oliver__nickpresta do a private chat with me01:52
NickPrestaoliver__, I would prefer not to. More people are in here to help you. You haven't really given a specific issue you need help with01:53
dr_willisI plan on waiting a few weeks after 8.10 comes out.. to try upgrading. :)01:53
baudthiefanyone know the service KRFB desktop sharing uses? I really need VNC access to my box :(01:53
ign0ramusdr_willis: any word on if kde3 will be an option yet?01:53
dr_willisign0ramus,  i havent been paying attention..01:53
ign0ramusdr_willis: you find kde4 usable enough to switch?01:53
dr_willisif not officially - i bet there will be Unoffical packages out very soon.,01:53
dr_willisI dont find KDE4 useable at all at this time01:54
DarthFrogvoss: http://paste.ubuntu.com/58606/01:54
dr_willisIt makes my laptop unbearably slow01:54
ign0ramus:) me neither.  I have it and login to update it, hoping that somehow it will just work the way i want01:54
ign0ramusbut it appears i need patience01:54
NickPrestaI disagree with KDE being 'unusable'. I use 4.1.2 for everyday tasks such as web browsing, IM, etc. as well as more specialized tasks - programming, graphics work, etc. I've yet to have any problem I haven't had in KDE301:54
Agent_boboliver__ ok pastebin these and see if someone can sort out your vidio/configuration issue.   echo -e "#####xorg.conf####\n`cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf`\n\n####lshw####\n`lshw -C display`\n\n####xwininfo####\n`xwininfo -all`\n" | pastebinit    #assuming you have pastebinit installed.01:55
DarthFrogbaudthief: You know if you "ssh -Y ..." you can run your remote X apps on your local machine.01:55
NickPrestaAgent_bob, I don't think he restarted X previously. I hold him to CABS and change his resolution01:55
ign0ramusNickPresta: for basic tasks, you are right; I've no real beef01:55
baudthiefDarthFrog: WHAT!? How about currently running tasks?01:55
DarthFrogbaudthief: Don't think so.01:56
NickPrestaThe fact that you can still run KDE3 apps in KDE4 is enough for me to warrant a switch at this point. :)01:56
baudthiefDarthFrog: dammit, I really need to check my torrents :P01:56
ign0ramusNickPresta: that's a plus... some of the KDE4 apps need work (Ark)01:56
Agent_bobNickPresta well true enough, i have no way to know if he did what we suggested or not.01:56
oliver__im back01:57
NickPrestaign0ramus, agreed, but in time, those 'final' things with come. I don't recall KDE 3 being as awesome as it is now when it first was available for use01:57
DarthFrogbaudthief: You'll probably have to turn on X forwarding in /etc/ssh/sshd.config.01:57
oliver__nick01:57
Agent_bobNickPresta if he didn't, and then pressed your reset, he'll come back mad at you.01:57
oliver__theres good news and bad news01:57
NickPrestaoliver__, okay..01:57
oliver__the good news is theres new resolutions01:57
baudthiefDarthFrog: oh my god. SSH - Y is *INSANE*, had no idea you could do that!01:58
oliver__bad news is there dows to 328 x 24001:58
Agent_bobNickPresta you nailed it.01:58
oliver__no01:58
NickPrestaoliver__, what is the highest resolution available?01:58
oliver__800 x 60001:58
oliver__lol01:58
oliver__but now 640 x 480 is available01:59
Agent_bobnot using DPMS in his xorg.conf  ?01:59
oliver__?01:59
DarthFrogbaudthief: The number of things that I know nothing about is growing at an alarming rate.  I do know how to forward X over SSH, though. :-)01:59
oliver__im in monitor resolution settings01:59
Agent_bobDarthFrog lol   i resemble that remark02:00
oliver__why cant there be a programe where u select ur driver of a list and it installs the correct drivers02:00
dr_willisoliver__,  that hardware driver tool does that.. there are very few devices that need that.. Most drivers are allready included.02:01
dr_willisbaudthief,  ssh - is a tool worth reading up on. :)02:01
oliver__:-l well mine wasnt lol02:01
dr_willisoliver__,  ive frogotten what your driver even was...02:01
baudthiefdr_willis: in truth I've only ever used SSH for a remote shell lol02:01
dr_willisor device..02:01
dr_willisbaudthief,  check out 'sshfs' also02:01
oliver__drivers is the biggest problem on ubuntu02:01
Agent_bobdr_willis voodoo3 card02:02
oliver__...02:02
dr_willisoliver__,  and you have been using linux for how long to come to this conclusion?02:02
oliver__yes02:02
oliver__3 months02:02
* dr_willis wonders how well the voodoo3 is supported under vista.02:02
oliver__but my friend has sinceit came out02:02
oliver__my tuter made his own linux os02:02
Agent_boboliver__ and when was that ?02:02
baudthiefcurse my capped upload at home, 30k/sec lol02:02
oliver__didnt publish it tho02:02
dr_willischeck the xorg.conf see what driver its trying to use. In the past i iften find the X system tries to use a safer res. if it cant tell what res the mountor can handle.02:03
oliver__lol02:03
oliver__its trying to use voodoo302:03
oliver__i ran that02:03
DarthFrogdr_willis: xorg.conf doesn't tell you anything anymore.02:03
oliver__i have a question02:03
oliver__what is sudo?02:03
dr_willisDarthFrog,  you can customize it still :)02:04
ign0ramus!sudo | oliver__02:04
ubottuoliver__: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information. For graphical applications see !gksu (Gnome), or !kdesu (KDE)02:04
DarthFrog!sudo02:04
oliver__argh02:04
DarthFrogsudo = SuperUser do.02:04
dr_willisif he found a live cd - that the thing did work properly in, he could use that as a basis for his own xorg.conf or just copy it over.02:04
oliver__the web makes my pc slow02:04
Agent_bobDarthFrog as opposed to su = switch users02:04
dr_willisits very likely - he just needs a proper modeline for his monitor.02:04
oliver__does anny1 know when shockwave will be available?02:05
DarthFrogAgent_bob: Correct.02:05
oliver__theres a pertition online with 39000 signs02:05
DarthFrogAgent_bob: su defaults to root, though.02:05
oliver__but they dont care02:05
oliver__im not in root...02:05
Agent_bobDarthFrog and sudo can accept user name arguments02:05
ign0ramusoliver__: have you pasted your xorg.conf?02:05
oliver__umm02:05
oliver__its saying...02:06
oliver__sudo: xorg.conf: command not found02:06
oliver__that helps02:06
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DarthFrogoliver__: xorg.conf is a file in /etc/X11/02:06
oliver__well i dont know02:06
oliver__wheres etc?02:06
ign0ramusoliver__: "kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf"02:06
oliver__remember im only 1602:06
* Agent_bob wonders why his guru friend doesn't do that for him02:06
baudthiefso the apps I run using ssh -Y, are they appearing on my screen at home too? or are they actually _RUNNING_ on my local machine?02:07
oliver__he lives 4 hours away from me02:07
oliver__and he cant figure it02:07
DarthFrogbaudthief: Running remotely, displaying locally.02:07
ign0ramusoliver__: can you copy and *pastebin* the .conf file?02:07
oliver__hes romoted my pc02:07
baudthiefDarthFrog: Holy cow. That's infintely cool.02:07
ign0ramusoliver__: it's better when you can do it yourself ;)02:07
oliver__huh?02:07
baudthief*infinitely02:07
oliver__i watched...02:07
oliver__im good with windows lol02:08
oliver__but i wanna learn ubuntu02:08
oliver__i can do loads on windows02:08
DarthFrogbaudthief: Actually, X is a networking protocol.  You don't need SSH to do it.  Just open up port 6100.02:08
ign0ramusoliver__: ok, you're having a display issue... Step 1, let's take a look at your xorg.conf02:08
oliver__i created a programe 2 run mac programes on xp02:08
baudthiefDarthFrog: SSH is the only thing port-forwarded on my router at home ;]02:08
oliver__WHERE IS XORG>CONF02:08
oliver__lol02:08
ign0ramus[09:06PM] <ign0ramus> oliver__: "kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf"02:09
oliver__i h8 ports02:09
dr_willisTime to read up on some linux basics i think oliver__02:09
DarthFrogoliver__: IT'S IN /ETC/X11.02:09
* dr_willis points out that linux is Case Senesetive also..02:09
baudthiefDarthFrog: he'll copy and paste that, and it wont work :P02:09
oliver__its creating...02:09
oliver__is that good?02:09
ign0ramuslolwut?02:09
oliver__lol02:09
oliver__HAY02:09
baudthiefhahaha02:09
DarthFrogbaudthief: He shouts, I shout. :-)02:09
* dr_willis gets out the ignore button. :P02:10
oliver__u was right02:10
oliver__Invalid entry (missing '=') at /tmp/kde-root/kconf_updateYZW0ua.tmp:102:10
oliver__what does it mean?02:10
DarthFrogNothing.  Ignore it.02:10
oliver__what ever happend 2 english02:10
oliver__well now what?02:10
ign0ramusoliver__: english died when it saw your internet posting XD02:11
oliver__lol02:11
oliver__its only chat rooms02:11
ign0ramusoliver__: ok, have you opened up xorg.conf or not?02:11
oliver__u reserve 1 and you can set a password 4 it02:11
oliver__and have group chats02:11
oliver__it can take over 400 people02:11
DarthFrogoliver__: This may be "only" an IRC channel (not chat room) but proper grammar and spelling is always appreciated.02:11
ign0ramusoliver__: you are very hard to help.02:11
oliver__im english02:12
oliver__i dont know propper grammer02:12
ign0ramusoliver__: that's no excuse! :)02:12
baudthieflol linux built the fear of using uppercase characters into me, now even on irc i type in lowercase :P02:12
oliver__it is when im 16 aswell02:12
ign0ramusoliver__: ok, now that we know your a/s/l, would you like to fix your issue?02:12
oliver__mine is a chat tho02:12
oliver__u can put like a link on ur bebo02:13
baudthiefign0ramus: *issues02:13
oliver__for an event02:13
DarthFrogoliver__: At 16, it's time for you to strive for excellence.02:13
oliver__what what?02:13
ign0ramusbaudthief: :-)02:13
oliver__im renting a flat soon02:13
oliver__with 2 m8s02:13
oliver__sorry about the slang02:13
oliver__are u ammerican?02:13
ign0ramusoliver__: if you could earn a living with randomness, you would be rich.02:13
baudthiefyou think you're aussie or something? :P02:13
baudthief@oliver02:13
oliver__what?02:14
oliver__:-S02:14
oliver__i get confused02:14
oliver__my friends say i should do stand up02:14
ign0ramusoliver__: maybe try sticking to one thing at a time ;)02:14
baudthiefI guess I'm the only aussie here then :(02:14
* baudthief kills self02:14
oliver__lol02:14
baudthiefand no we dont root kangaroos.02:14
oliver__my friend lives there02:14
ign0ramusfinally, we got rid of the Aussies!02:14
oliver__LOL02:15
DarthFrogign0ramus: Let me guess, you're a Kiwi!02:15
baudthiefign0ramus: we're actually really old brits :P02:15
oliver__me?02:15
oliver__im not old02:15
ign0ramusDarthFrog: nope, just a perfect example of an American ;)02:15
oliver__my friend iwas shouting at me earlier02:15
oliver__its her bday in the morning02:15
baudthiefbloody americans02:15
oliver__she was saying she was turning in2 a nan02:16
oliver__SHES 1702:16
ign0ramusbaudthief: so, when i visit your great continent, may i crash on your couch?02:16
DarthFrogoliver__: Stick to Kubuntu issues, please.02:16
oliver__here?02:16
baudthiefign0ramus: you may indeed02:16
ign0ramusbaudthief: <3 Aussies02:16
oliver__whats a continent?02:16
oliver__i dont know annything about ammerica02:16
oliver__all i know i learnt from american dad and family guy02:17
oliver__lol02:17
ign0ramusoliver__: that's all you need02:17
uman Hello everyone. I have a really really big problem. I have windows xp installed under vmware workstation and I accidentally reverted back to an old snapshot and lost all my files and everything. I want to know if there is a way to undo the snapshot revert. If not, do you guys know what exactly happens when you go back to a snapshot? I mean, does the old .vmx (or entire virtual hdd partition) simply get erased and replaced by a new one? If so , I could simply02:17
uman[20:11] <uman> use recovery software to recover it right? Thanks. Which software do you recommend.02:17
oliver__you cant02:17
DarthFroguman: This is the wrong place for such issues.  you need specific help from a VMWare channel.02:17
oliver__or just run the setup but partition it different02:18
oliver__i know how 2 fix it02:18
oliver__its xp02:18
oliver__as i said im good with xp02:18
dr_willis'good with xp' means very little. :)02:18
ign0ramusuman: http://communities.vmware.com/docs/DOC-1490.pdf;jsessionid=7CDDF52158BD445EE919126B89B4134602:18
ign0ramusi'm also good at pointing and clicking icons ;)02:19
dr_willisign0ramus,  You got it.02:19
oliver__lol02:19
oliver__im good at that02:19
oliver__im good at bebo02:19
dr_willisIve learned more about computers due to my using Linux, then i would EVER learned by using windows.02:19
ign0ramusoliver__: if you want to know how a computer 'works', Linux is for you02:19
Agent_bobdr_willis i have always viewed "good with (M$ whateva)" as more of a confession than a boast.02:19
oliver__i sont02:20
oliver__dont*02:20
ign0ramusif you don't care how a computer works, get a Mac :)02:20
oliver__i just fixed sum1s computer02:20
oliver__well... i say fixed...02:20
oliver__i made it look like a mac02:20
dr_willisoliver__,  you mught want to start putting a little more of a complete thought/statement on each line..   we can read long sentences.02:20
ign0ramusoliver__: installing Norton != 'fixing'02:20
oliver__with a couple of dll changes02:20
oliver__and boot screen changes02:20
oliver__logons02:20
oliver__icons02:20
oliver__just allot of renaming and moving02:21
Agent_bob!enter > oliver__02:21
oliver__and i got stardock02:21
ubottuoliver__, please see my private message02:21
uman Hello everyone. I have a really really big problem. I have windows xp installed under vmware workstation and I accidentally reverted back to an old snapshot and lost all my files and everything. I want to know if there is a way to undo the snapshot revert. If not, do you guys know what exactly happens when you go back to a snapshot? I mean, does the old .vmx (or entire virtual hdd partition) simply get erased and replaced by a new one? If so , I could simply02:21
uman[20:11] <uman> use recovery software to recover it right? Thanks. Which software do you recommend.02:21
umansorry pasted the wrong thing.02:21
dr_willis:)02:21
umanign0ramus, thanks im going to read that02:21
oliver__i got told of by a bot02:21
oliver__:-S02:22
ign0ramusuman: np... it details how to clear out 'snapshots'02:22
oliver__how can a bot tellu off? it said i have to use one line02:22
ign0ramus!botsnack02:22
ubottuYum! Err, I mean, APT!02:22
dr_willis!bot | oliver__02:22
ubottuoliver__: Hi! I'm #kubuntu's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://tinyurl.com/5zfb6t - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots02:22
oliver__?02:23
Agent_bobyou guys are no fun.02:23
dr_willisIts a bot.. it does what people tel it to do...02:23
Agent_bob;/02:23
oliver__a bot just told me off02:23
oliver__for flooding and capsing02:23
ign0ramusAgent_bob: this is supposed to be a 'helping' channel02:23
dr_willisoliver__,  and your point is?02:23
oliver__i am helping02:23
ign0ramusAgent_bob: although, sometimes you have to exercise restraint ;)02:23
Agent_bobign0ramus help yes, teach no.02:24
ign0ramusAgent_bob: agreed.02:24
oliver__same thing02:24
* dr_willis goes back to working on his Anti-virus Live cd.02:24
oliver__yeah and my resolution02:24
NickPrestawhen on the live CD and you download something, like say packages, where are they stored?02:24
oliver__i cant put it up :-( ive tried everything02:24
dr_willisNickPresta,  ram disk i think.02:24
ign0ramusoliver__: i've only tried 3 times to help with your resolution, and you keep talking about Bebo :(02:24
oliver__either hard drive data disk or cd02:25
dr_willisoliver__,   i woudl test out some other live cd;s and if you find one that works. copy its xorg.conf over to use as a basis for your own customized xorg.conf02:25
oliver__(only cd if you have a cd)02:25
NickPrestadr_willis, its strange. my girlfriend added the multiverse/universe repos, updated and is trying to install ubuntu-restricted-extras and it says package not available/found02:25
dr_willisNickPresta,  could be the mirror is down/messed up.02:25
oliver__sorry lol02:25
dr_willisor some updates are in progresss.02:25
oliver__i did it 2 times02:25
ign0ramusNickPresta: is it listed in Adept/Synaptic?02:25
Agent_bobign0ramus i have been told off several times for teaching rather than helping, in here.     i thought i would try a new approach.   "only answere dirrect and relavent questions."     but i'm not sure i can quit cold turkey.02:25
dr_willisNickPresta,  you did 'sudo apt-get update' first?02:26
NickPrestadr_willis, main ubuntu archive. its strange because she doesn't have an HDD in her laptop at the moment and it doesn't work, but last week it did, with the HDD in02:26
NickPrestadr_willis, yep02:26
oliver__yes02:26
oliver__my update was on the fritz the other day though02:26
Agent_bobNickPresta it's not in universe/multiverse.  it's in restricted02:26
dr_willisubuntu-restricted-extras  will grab quite a bit of stuff..02:26
Agent_bobor is it ?02:26
NickPrestaAgent_bob, that would definitely explain it. *shakes head*02:27
* Agent_bob goes to see.02:27
NickPresta!info ubuntu-restricted-extras02:27
ubottuubuntu-restricted-extras (source: ubuntu-restricted-extras): Commonly used restricted packages. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 15.2 (hardy), package size 3 kB, installed size 32 kB02:27
NickPrestain multiverse. I thought so02:27
oliver__i have all those extras02:27
dr_willisIt maybe in multiverse.. but the stuff it isntalles maybe restricted.02:27
Agent_bobmultiverse.    yes i pleed the fifth i just had.02:27
NickPrestahmm. okay. I'll get her to add the restricted repo02:28
NickPrestaoliver__, not that I care, but if you're using ubuntu, why are you in #kubuntu?02:29
oliver__theres no ubuntu one02:30
NickPrestaoliver__, theres #ubuntu ...?02:30
oliver__?02:30
oliver__no02:30
jtismeand ubuntu+102:30
NickPrestaoliver__, what do you mean no?02:30
oliver__i mean theres no ubuntu chat02:30
NickPrestaoliver__, there is the #ubuntu channel02:30
oliver__i dont understand your grammer02:31
oliver__where?02:31
NickPrestathat's strange02:31
oliver__its not on my os02:31
NickPrestaoliver__, type: /join #ubuntu02:31
oliver__for some reason i only seem to have kubuntu programes02:31
oliver__thankyou02:31
dr_willisI bet the #ubuntu guys will hate us now! :)02:32
jtismeI have enjoyed oliver_'s banter after a hard days work02:32
NickPrestajtisme, :)02:32
dr_willis")02:32
dr_willis:)02:32
* dr_willis watches the same questions/responses go on in #ubuntu now02:33
jtismeactually me thinks he is pulling our leg02:33
NickPrestajtisme, the thought has crossed my mind02:33
jtisme:)02:33
NickPrestawow. I don't recall #ubuntu having so many people in there. Numbers have certainly gone up02:34
Agent_bobjtisme we are unanomus it seems02:34
Agent_bobNickPresta 1200 ?02:34
Agent_bobNickPresta seems the avg i recall  ?02:35
dr_willisThats about average.02:35
dr_willisseen 4000+ on release day. :)02:35
dr_willisor was it 3000+02:35
NickPrestaAgent_bob, 1281, yeah. *shrug* perhaps my memory is mistaken02:35
dr_willis1000 of them are idling..02:35
dr_willis:)02:35
Agent_bob1200 of them are idling02:36
Agent_bobbut the 80 of them trying to talk is more than i like to deal with02:36
dr_willisand 100 of them expect to be spoon fed linux basics.. because they cant be bothered to read any web sites...02:36
dr_willis:) oh wait.. that was mean...02:36
dr_willissorry...02:36
NickPrestadr_willis, you would be surprised how many of them read the websites and still need to be spoon fed ;)02:37
DarthFrogdr_willis: Not mean.  Just realistic.02:37
Agent_boband God forbid we try to decypher a man page .... ^02:37
dr_willisok.. read and 'think' :)02:37
NickPrestabut of course, we were all newbies once too...02:37
dr_willisI started using unix in 1986 in college. :) after using my amiga for years..02:38
dr_willis'learning to learn' is step 1.02:38
DarthFrogNickPresta: There's nothing wrong with being a newbie.  But being a lazy newbie with a sense of entitlement ....02:38
dr_willis entitlement! :)  thats the word02:38
Agent_bob"sense of entitlement"   pfft.02:38
dr_willis'i demand you make it totally idiot proof.. but also allow me FULL  access to tweak/chanve every thing i may ever want to do.. with a idiot proof gui!'02:39
Agent_boblol02:39
dr_willis'and bend over backwards for me! and now do a backflip!'02:39
DarthFrogAnd run all my Windows apps flawlessly.02:39
dr_willis'and do it for Free!'02:39
Agent_bobi like this one "if you make it idiot proof, they will just make a better idiot"02:39
dr_willis'educate the user, dont dumb down the tool'02:40
NickPrestasigh02:40
Agent_bobthat's what i just said02:41
beataI'm getting a 'Permission denied' error writing to a mounted cifs samba share, even when performing the write as root.02:41
DarthFrogdr_willis: THat doesn't fit with the GNOME philosophy.02:41
dr_willisDarthFrog,  yep.. ya got that right.02:41
dr_williswhich is why i mixx and match gnome+kde apps all the time02:41
DarthFrogbeata: Then perhaps the problem is with the share?02:41
NickPrestabeata, how did you mount the share? Root can't write to something that isn't mount rw02:41
Agent_bobbeata#  mount02:42
dr_willisalso the remote machine needs to have specific permissions onthe share set02:42
beataEverything looks correct from here; the mounts are rw according to /proc/mounts02:42
beataconfig at http://dalhagen.net/public/smb.conf02:42
DarthFrogbeata: Check permissions on the remote machine.02:43
beataWhich permissions? On the share directory, or in the share config?02:43
DarthFrogbeata: Both.02:44
dr_willisthe classic 'yes' answer :)02:44
beataThe share directory is writable on the server.02:44
Agent_bobtwo lines "   invalid users = root"  and  ";   security = user"   ???02:45
Kal`Torakhi. Funny question maybe: does the *amd64* release work with intel chips as well?02:45
Agent_bobyou can't do anything as root if root is forbiden     no ?02:45
DarthFrogKal`Torak: yES.02:45
Kal`TorakThanks DarthFrog02:46
DarthFrogI hate the CAPS LOCK key.02:46
beataWait..02:46
Jammuneed a litle help What is a Bin file???02:46
DarthFrogI keep hitting it instead of TAB. :-(02:46
beatathat's the wrong smb.conf02:46
DarthFrogJammu: Binary.02:46
Agent_bobpfft.02:46
Jammuand it does what?02:46
DarthFrogJammu: There is no general answer to that question.02:46
Jammuok. can i instal it?02:47
DarthFrogJammu: There is no general answer to that question.02:47
Agent_bobdepends02:47
* beata facepalms. "From the wrong computer."02:47
Agent_bobbeata :)02:48
Jammuok hot to i install it?02:48
Kal`TorakOk, downloading the beta... this should be fun02:48
DarthFrogJammu: What is it, specifically?02:48
Jammugoogle earth 4 linux02:49
beataThe correct one is up now. Heh.02:49
Agent_bobbash /path/to/file.bin    #jammu generally speaking you don't want to though.02:49
Agent_bob!googleearth02:49
ubottuGoogle Earth is now available, for free (only as in price), for Linux, too. To download it see http://earth.google.com/download-earth.html - A package for Ubuntu is available in the !Medibuntu repository02:49
Agent_bobse the package    ^02:50
Jammuim back02:53
DarthFrog!googleearth | Jammu02:54
ubottuJammu: Google Earth is now available, for free (only as in price), for Linux, too. To download it see http://earth.google.com/download-earth.html - A package for Ubuntu is available in the !Medibuntu repository02:54
Agent_bobbeata i don't see an issue generator there.    but i'm not a network guru either02:55
Agent_bobunless "case sensitive = yes"  is playing thundar with it somehow02:56
beataI'd swear it was working at one point.02:56
Jammuok thanks02:56
Jammubye02:56
coloclone!Medibuntu02:59
ubottumedibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org02:59
DarthFrogHmm, that Medibuntu entry is somewhat lacking.03:00
DarthFrogMedibuntu is mostly multimedia.03:00
dr_willisMedibuntu has 'hot-babe' package. :)03:01
beata....03:03
beataI found it.03:03
beataI had to set my mount user as an admin user in smb.conf03:04
beataNo, that doesn't actually work.03:08
beataMe dammit.03:09
* Agent_bob really doesn't know. but then again he lives in a world where root is not root, disks have no partitions and there is no suid.03:11
beataHee hee.03:12
* DarthFrog wants some of whatever Agent_bob is indulging in. :-)03:13
EtFbI notice the new 2.6.24-21 kernel has arrived and Apt wants me to install it.  But I use VMWare Server 2.0, and I've had trouble in the past with kernel upgrades.  Has anyone experienced any problems this time around?03:14
* adrian Hi. can anyone help me and guide me in how to install my tv tunner?03:15
DarthFrogadrian: Is it a Hauppauge card?03:17
DarthFrog!ivtv03:19
ubottuIVTV can be installed on Edgy by following the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Install_IVTV_Edgy03:19
adrianDarthFrog:  dunno what that means03:19
DarthFrogadrian: What is your TV tuner card?03:20
adrianjust installed yesterday for the first time linux03:20
adrianwell, winfast tv2000 xp rm03:20
DarthFrogAh.  I doubt it'll work.  The "Win" is damning.03:20
adrianI saw on forums that other people installed it. But I don't understand all the steps that I have to take in the process03:21
DarthFrogTry this: http://www.linuxhelp.net/guides/tvtuner/03:21
rogan!wifi03:21
ubottuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs03:21
roganthere a good wifi finder ?03:21
Agent_bobpfft i think i have root login disabled, even though i just created a "root" on this box...  ;/03:22
adrianhope it will be usefull03:23
adrianthanks03:23
coloclone!hot-babe03:23
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about hot-babe03:23
colocloneShucks03:23
Agent_bob!info hot-babe03:24
ubottuPackage hot-babe does not exist in hardy03:24
Agent_bobdr_willis said it was in the medibuntu03:24
coloclone2 bad.... It's probably a compiz plugin03:24
=== winslow is now known as woddf2
woddf2Hello03:25
harolddongI keep all my documents and music and stuff on a separate fat32 drive and I have links my music, pictures and video folders in my home folder and on my desktop.  The permissions on the drive seem fine.  I can write to and execute apps etc.  I just can't change the folder icons.  I just installed Kubuntu Ibex Beta but this has been an issue that I've had since Kubuntu Gutsy.  I can't change any icons for any folders on fat32 drives03:25
woddf2I installed KDE 4, but it was 4.0 instead of 4.1.03:25
woddf2How do I upgrade to KDE 4.1.x?03:25
DarthFrogNo. Hot-babe is a process monitor.  Her clothing status reflect the activity of the system. :-)03:26
colocloneHAHA from http://www.dindinx.net/hotbabe/ "Yes, there are bugs in Hot-Babe."03:26
woddf2I installed KDE 4, but it was 4.0 instead of 4.1.03:27
woddf2How do I upgrade to KDE 4.1.x?03:27
DarthFrogwoddf2: You could just wait till Hallowe'en and upgrade to Intrepid.  It has KDE 4.1.203:27
harolddongStrangley the links to the drive in my home folder show up with the old kde crystal icons... which I dont even have anymore since I'm using Ibex.  I read somethin about maybe the drive is still owned by an old install but I dont have any idea how to fix it03:27
woddf2I was running KDE 4.1.2 in Kubuntu 8.04 earlier and it worked fine!03:27
=== mcasadevall is now known as NCommander
woddf2Well...?03:30
woddf2...anyone?03:31
NCommanderwoddf2, its only in Intrepid03:32
NCommanderWhich is still in development03:32
woddf2I was running KDE 4.1.2 in Kubuntu 8.04 earlier and it worked fine!03:32
NCommanderIf you want to use a development distribution which might be buggy as hell, you can use Intrepid03:32
NCommander(although its fairly stable ATM)03:32
NCommanderwoddf2, not via offical packages than03:32
woddf2http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.103:34
EtFbAnyone here using VMWare Server 2.0?03:34
gladtr_yes03:36
gladtr_this is good soft03:36
Agent_bobharolddong not sure. but have you tried changing the icon for the real path rather than the symbolic path ?03:36
gladtr_EtFb are you question ?03:37
EtFbNo, I person.  Are you question?03:37
gladtr_Anyone here using VMWare Server 2.0?03:38
Agent_bobthat sentance no verb03:38
EtFbAgent_bob: That sentence no correct spelling.03:38
EtFbI notice the new 2.6.24-21 kernel has arrived and Apt wants me to install it.  But I use VMWare Server 2.0, and I've had trouble in the past with kernel upgrades.  Has anyone experienced any problems this time around?03:38
harolddongI've tried changing the icon on the actual folder that's on my fat32  drive and on the link in my home folder using system icons.  the actual folder shows no icon and can't be changed.  the link shows the old kde3 crystal icon which isnt even installed.. and also can't be changed03:38
woddf2I found it on the Web.03:39
Agent_bobinteresting.   but i don't know.03:39
woddf2Thanks anyway03:39
woddf2Goodbye03:39
harolddongLike I said I read some about it and it seems like it might be a case of the dive stilll being owned by the old install.. but I just wouldnt know where to begin figuring out how to fix it03:40
gladtr_EtFb error message  ???03:40
EtFbgladtr_: If you can't communicate clearly in English, perhaps there's a channel you'd be more comfortable in.  Try typing "!xx" where "xx" is the country code for your preferred language; for example, "!es" for Espagnol, "!fr" for Francais, etc.03:41
Agent_bobharolddong ownership i do somewhat understand.   try this     sudo chown -R $USER:$USER $HOME03:41
roganneed some wifi advise please. I finally got my drivers working for my wifi card and network manager detects the card. when I go to create a new network I type in all of the information at wich point status bar hitas about 40% connected and then errors out on me03:42
gladtr_:-(03:42
EtFbgladtr_: Ah, no, I don't think there's any channel called #ubuntu-emoticons...03:42
gladtr_I`m good read and understund english, but i while good speak and write.03:43
Agent_bobindeed03:44
gladtr_i dont want offend you03:45
DarthFroggladtr_: We're not offended.  Not at all.03:45
DarthFrogWe are just having trouble understanding you.03:45
DarthFroggladtr_: What is your native language?03:46
gladtr_yes I`m understood too, but  if I dont have talking   I`m dont  talking with other  people03:47
gladtr_my native language russian.03:47
Agent_bob!ru03:47
ubottuПожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke03:47
gladtr_I`m dont  need help03:48
* EtFb is impressed at what a mess this IRC program made of that bit of Cyrillic...03:48
gladtr_I`m want help self03:49
gladtr_<ubottu> Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke03:49
gladtr_I`m reading this03:49
DarthFroggladtr_: Your English is better than my Russian.  But I'm afraid your English isn't quite good enough for us to actually understand you.03:51
DarthFrogYou'd be better served in #ubuntu-ru.03:51
gladtr_yes... its write03:51
roganis essid same thing as ssid?03:52
Agent_bobrogan extended ssid  ??? only a guess.03:53
DarthFroggladtr_: Are you here to *get* help or to *offer* help to others?03:53
gladtr_I`m екн will not disturb03:53
Servawow, DarthFrog which timezone you have over there?03:53
DarthFrogServa: ?? PDT.03:53
gladtr_to *offer* help to others?03:53
DarthFrogUTC -703:53
Servalast time when i chatted here .. the sun just rose in the sky.. and now its almost night. :)03:53
Servaand you're still shining bright :)03:54
gladtr_to *offer* help to others03:54
Agent_bobDarthFrog umm is it minus or plus seven ?03:54
DarthFrogAgent_bob: 7 hours behind UTC.03:54
EtFbAgent_bob: Minus sounds right.  California time, I believe.03:55
Servaby the way, hip hop is rocking!03:55
EtFbI quite like the FoxClocks add-in for Firefox, BTW.03:55
DarthFrogServa:  I still haven't found the server to download a life from. :-)03:55
EtFbgladtr_: Do you have experience with VMWare Server and Kubuntu?03:55
Agent_bobDarthFrog yes. and if you use tzconfig and adjust by gtm[+/-]#  you will find that either the configurator and time calculations is wrong or that's gmt+7 you are in.03:56
gladtr_yes ыууь :-)03:56
ServaDarthFrog, somebody stole it from me looooooooooong back. I could have helped you with that, otherwise.03:56
gladtr_yes seem :-)03:56
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Agent_bobDarthFrog i've taken issue with that for quite some time now.    just thought i'd point it out.03:57
DarthFrogAgent_bob: Hmm, that's somewhat ... unintuitive.03:57
Agent_bobindeed it is.03:57
EtFbgladtr_: OK.  The only Russian I know is da, nyet and Racmaninoff, but maybe you can help.  Is your kernel updated?03:58
DarthFrogIt's currently 0300 UTC.  it's 2000 PDT.03:58
DarthFrogThat's -7 hours to me.03:58
Agent_bobbut what they are saying is that utc is your time + 7 hours.03:58
gladtr_yes03:58
DarthFrogEtFb: Surely you also know Smirnoff? :-)03:58
ServaObama was heard talking about bubble sort!03:58
microchipv420Heys guys, I need some help sorting out a pc repair issue, I get a error beep message at start up that i am not familiar with. The computer will not boot up as well03:58
harolddongAgent_bob that command didnt give any errors but my problem is still there.  Icons cant be changed03:58
Servadid anyone listen to that interview?03:58
EtFbDarthFrog: Oddly, I don't drink.  So no, I've never met the gentleman...03:59
gladtr_russian vodka try  in practik?03:59
microchipv420what is the pc repair channel, anyone know?03:59
DarthFrogAgent_bob: I guess that made sense to someone sometime.03:59
Agent_bobanyone that can help harolddong with folder/icons ?03:59
EtFbmicrochipv420: The beeps indicate a problem during inital BIOS startup, before any OS is loaded.03:59
gladtr_I`m never drink vodka and beer03:59
Agent_bobDarthFrog not to me but they say it's not a bug.03:59
Servathere's a good song.. on vodka and red bull04:00
EtFbmicrochipv420: Google the motherboard brand and see if there's a manual explaining the different beeps and their meanings.04:00
Servaas i remember it :-)04:00
microchipv420EtFb, right, what channel should i check with, or is there a way i can reset the BIOS to the defaults?04:00
microchipv420even failsafe?04:00
DarthFrogAgent_bob: I can understand that.  I also use numeric dates as day/month/year.  Americans use month/day/year.  Confusing.04:00
Agent_bobDarthFrog and mil uses year/month/day04:01
microchipv420EtFb: doh! <slaps forehead> thanks, cya later04:01
DarthFrogAgent_bob: That's probably the best way to use it.04:01
* Serva thinks is it the right time to sleep or stretch a lil more, and try to work?????04:01
Agent_bobServa right time to help harolddong with his issue if you can04:02
EtFbmicrochipv420: Just be sure to get the exact model.  The meaning changes all over the place.  On one machine a beep may mean "video card missing", on another it may mean "motherboard is on fire".04:02
Agent_bobDarthFrog it makes sorting by date much easier when it's in that order  y/m/d04:03
EtFbgladtr_: Did you get the recent kernel upgrade?  To linux-image-2.6.24-21-generic?04:03
gladtr_yes04:04
ServaAgent-bob, I wish I was that *informed* about kubuntu -- I was totally a windows user... until last week of september. I liked every bit of it! :-)04:04
EtFbAre you running Linux as a guest or host?04:04
gladtr_EtFb: YES04:04
gladtr_YES04:04
gladtr_as host and guest04:04
Agent_bobEtFb no double questions please.... :)04:04
harolddongthis is my fstab http://pastebin.com/m1bd5fdcf maybe its set wrong04:05
EtFbAgent_bob: Are you sure, or is there a turnip in your nose?04:05
EtFbAgent_bob: Answer in binary, please.04:05
harolddongagain I have no problem writing to my fat drives its just that no folder icons can be changed04:05
EtFbgladtr_: Does VMWare Server work now, with the new kernel?04:05
EtFbgladtr_: Did it need to install again?04:06
harolddongin /media only my ntfs drive actually has a harddrive icon.  the fat drives show s egular folders04:06
DarthFrogharolddong: Your fstab looks fine for /media/sdb5.04:06
gladtr_after upgrade kernel only install fresh my VMWARE server working04:07
Agent_bobharolddong yeah that fstab is fine as frogs hair split four ways04:07
DarthFrogharolddong: But the "users" should be "user", singular.04:07
Agent_bobDarthFrog both can be used.  they do different things04:07
gladtr_and i try find this problem on vmware site KB but dont find04:07
EtFbgladtr_: Good.  Thank you.  That is good news.04:07
gladtr_not at all04:08
EtFbgladtr_: The KB site is unreliable.  I don't know why.  Sometimes the search doesn't work.04:08
harolddongyeah and sdb5 is where the folders I keep everything are so that's what I link to on every install.  only now the actual music and pics folder shows a blank iconn... unless I link them in my home folder.. then the links show the old crystal icons... very weird04:08
Agent_bobIf any user should be able to unmount, then use users instead of user in the fstab line. <<, man mount04:09
Agent_bobDarthFrog ^04:09
DarthFrogAgent_bob: Thanks, I didn't realise that.  The man page is clear on the distinction.04:09
gladtr_I dont say that is unreliable but many information  there cant find04:10
ofvwhile updating the kernel, the updater stopped at the middle of the progress bar with the message configuring linux-.. (version number etc)04:10
EtFbDosvedanya, tovarishchi!04:10
gladtr_))))04:10
gladtr_good buy lady and gentlmen04:11
ofvclosed the updater and now i ps -a show this processes:04:11
ofvlinux-image-2.6, frontend, update-grub, ucf, whiptail04:11
ofvhow can i fix this? do i kill those processes?04:12
Agent_bobsudo killall dpkg04:12
Agent_bob!adeptcrashfix04:12
ubottuIf an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »04:12
Agent_bobya might be wanting that too  ofv ^04:13
ofvAgent_bob: okay, I'll try it.04:13
Agent_bobi think i will start logging in and running as root just to cause confusion.04:18
Agent_bobseeing that i have added a "root" acount04:18
Agent_boboh my.  look at me, i'm irc'ing as root     hehhe.04:23
Agent_bobit's not just a name anymore, it's an account.04:24
Agent_bobanyway.   gooday, folks.04:25
ofvAgent_bob: gooday, and thanks for helping to fix my problem.04:25
gladtr_gooday all04:36
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testingKubuntuhmm04:41
testingKubuntuseems ok04:41
dsmith_anyone use vmware04:47
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draikWhere can I get Terminal Server Client?04:53
draikI used to have it, but now it's gone.04:53
aitdsynaptic?04:54
aitddraik: Synaptic has it as tsclient04:56
draikThank you, aitd04:56
aitdnp04:56
dygashHello everyone, I am a new user on Ubuntu, I just wanted to say hi, and I look forward to using this room as a repository for advice and information in the coming days and weeks.05:03
cilkayHello. I'm trying to understand how Xorg decides that it should detect my ViewSonic 15GA as a "Plug 'n' Play" monitor instead of correctly detecting it as a "ViewSonic 15GA" and set the screen resolution to a bizarre 1280x768 @ 60Hz.05:12
cilkayThis is on Hardy on a fresh install.05:13
cilkayIs there a way to make X monitor detection more reliable on Kubuntu?05:13
cilkayManually setting it is a non-starter, by the way. I'm doing preseed installations on ~ 50 machines with varying graphics chipsets and monitors so fiddling with that in the System Settings control panel isn't feasible.05:15
cilkay... aside from the fact that it's flakey in Kubuntu anyway. What you select for the screen resolution only seems to be loosely correlated to what it actually starts with the next time you reboot.05:16
draikHow do I lock an entire basket in Basket? I create a few different baskets. I want to lock everything from the main basket down to the sub-basket.05:21
draikPassword only locks the one basket page, not the entire thing.05:22
rogandeiver problem cilkay?05:24
cilkayI presume you mean driver. If so, no.05:25
rogandriver*05:25
cilkayIt happens on various machines.05:25
cilkayK/Ubuntu's hardware detection just doesn't seem to be that good.05:25
cilkayOn Mandriva, the correct chipset and monitor is detected first time, every time so it's obviously feasible.05:26
cilkayKnoppix had a reputation for having excellent HW detection. I haven't tried it recently.05:27
cilkayI wonder how it would do on this?05:27
microchipv420does anyone know if there are "Employment Oppurtunities" IRC channels anywhere?05:30
dygashEvolution keeps crashing on KDE shortly after loading, I have linked 3 email addresses to it, overload of mail?05:35
cilkaydygash: Very unlikely. Start it from a shell and see if it outputs anything interesting to the console.05:38
cilkaymicrochipv420: "Employment Opportunities" are as close as your nearest open source project.05:39
cilkayIf you want to make a mark, contribute in some meaningful way to an open source project.05:39
cilkayYou can then point to that project and proudly say, "I did that!" to a prospective employer.05:40
cilkaymicrochipv420: What can you do?05:41
microchipv420cilkay: hey, sorry i just saw ya, I'm watching the ninja turtles trilogy :) I am an out of work graphic Designer, specializing in print design and corporate branding05:43
pantheradhey all... i have a very basic question about linux / windows files if i could (i literally just installed ubuntu today for the first time)05:48
pantheradcan someone field it?05:49
cilkayAsk and you might receive.05:49
pantheradi have a ton of media files (mp3's mostly) that are on my windows drive... is it possible to access them from ubuntu?05:49
jtmoneypantherad: yes05:50
pantheradthat's good :)  i'm all ears.. how?05:51
jtmoneyi do it from the command line, so good luck... basically, you want to run: sudo smbmount /dev/sda1 /path/where/to/mount05:51
jtmoneywell, sda1 could be hda1, sdb1, etc.05:51
jtmoneyhow is/are your drive(s) partitioned?05:51
pantheradi have two 320gig drives as a raid 0 device (windows drive) and a 160 gig drive as my ubuntu drive, both were formated in NTSF05:52
jtmoneyhmm, okay... just follow this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions05:52
jtmoneyso, basically, hda1 or sda1 will be the RAID drives05:53
jtmoneyprobably sda105:53
jtmoneybut sudo fdisk -l will tell you05:53
jtmoneythere's probably an easier way within KDE, i'm just not familiar with it :)05:53
pantheradand by doing this i'm not going to actually fdisk my windows drive am i? :)05:54
jtmoneyheh, no05:54
jtmoneybut good point05:54
pantheradsorry, i'm REALLY new to linux... as of today, actually05:54
jtmoneyyeah, well you're doing fine... you partitioned your drives right, on IRC asking questions05:54
jtmoneyi'm not all that great myself heh05:55
jtmoneyhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions/ThirdPartyNTFS3G05:55
jtmoneyhmm, looks like you could just install ntfs-config05:55
pantheradyeah, looking at that now05:57
roganhttp://www.geekologie.com/2008/10/guy_plays_36_world_of_warcraft.php06:08
rogansomes no lifeone ha06:09
rogansomeone has no life*06:09
chairmanhow do i get adobe flash on here06:12
cilkaychairman: Google for "add the medibuntu repository"06:14
cilkayThen install Flash as you would install anything else.06:14
dygashIn a tar.gz folder which contains a linux app installsion app i just downloaded, what file am I looking for to run the install?06:16
cilkaydygash: What are you installing?06:16
dygashthe program is celtx06:16
SkEmOi downloaded a plugin for amsn, but,  it contains several folders and 2 exe files in one folder, how do i add the plug in to amsn?06:16
dygashwww.celtx.com06:16
cilkaydygash: There is no package for it?06:17
dygashfirst day on linux06:17
cilkaySkEmO: exe files run on Windows, not Linux.06:17
SkEmOi know, the package is for all OS06:17
cilkaydygash: All the more reason not to pollute your system with unmanaged packages, if you can help it.06:17
dygashthis is the only thing i need to download besides LAME06:18
dygashdownload/install that is06:18
cilkaydygash: APT gives you a predictable and coherent way of installing/upgrading/removing software. If at all possible, you should install software using apt, not from source.06:18
dygashok06:19
cilkayIf there is a package, someone else will have done the heavy lifting for you.06:19
mattc_...And if there isn't?06:20
dygashsorry I forgot about doing it from the shell, hmm i tried sudo aptitude celtx but it didn't find it06:21
SkEmOis there any windows emulator besides wine?06:21
dygash*aptitude install celtx06:21
SkEmOwine doesent work for me06:21
cilkaymattc_: Find an alternative, build from source or, build a package and install that.06:22
mattc_then we get back to the whole unmanaged package thing :(06:23
cilkaymattc_: Not necessarily. You can build a package yourself.06:23
cilkayI've never built .deb packages but I've built plenty of RPMs. It's not that difficult.06:23
cilkayIf you know how to build from source, you already know must of what you need to know to build packages.06:24
chairmancilkay it's for ubuntu06:24
cilkaySure, the concept is still the same.06:24
dygashhmm ok i don't know how to know if somethings packaged, and I have saved the download and tried sudo aptitude install celtx but it can't find anything.06:25
cilkayThere are some intricacies you'll have to learn about building Debian packages but it's not rocket science.06:25
mattc_does ubuntu have a mechanism by which packages installed from source can be recorded in a "world" file. Sorry, new to Ubuntu, Gentoo has been where I am at for the last few years.06:25
cilkaydygash: One sec. I'm looking for it on my machine.06:25
dygashcilkay: thanks, I appreciate the help06:26
cilkaydygash: I don't see it in the repos and I have multiverse, universe, partner, and medibuntu enabled.06:27
cilkayI'll just take a look at the tarball to see what it's about.06:27
dygashcilkay:  I found it mentioned on the Ubuntu forums and was linked to www.celtx.com where they have a linux version avaliable06:28
cilkayOh cool. It appears to be a Mozilla app. It might run on XULRunner.06:29
dygashsorry got that wrong, link from ubuntu to a blog and celtx from there. Still if theres a linux version it cant be harmful can it?06:29
dygashcilkay:  I don't know what XULRunner is06:30
cilkayYou use Firefox?06:30
dygashyes06:30
cilkayFF is an example of an application built using the Mozilla development platform.06:31
cilkayXULRunner is essentially the run-time engine that one can use to run apps built with the Mozilla development platform.06:31
cilkayYou can think of it as Firefox without all the browser bits.06:32
dygashok, so its a dependency for celtx?06:32
cilkayFirefox at the very least is.06:32
cilkayOr perhaps XULRunner.06:32
cilkayI don't know yet.06:32
dygashok06:32
dygashyeah it looks like a great piece of programming, hoping I can get this going tonight06:33
dygashwas originally looking for a script writing software replacement to final draft and came across this. Love the multi purpose functioning06:34
cilkaydygash: I have it running but it's running in some Eastern European language.06:39
dygashthe sites got alot of different language versions06:39
cilkayAh yes.06:39
dygashthink they mixed the links up?06:40
cilkayI just downloaded the Bulgarian one, apparently.06:40
dygash:p06:40
chairmancan i type tht in the terminal06:40
dygashcilkay: so what do I need to do in shell to get this bad boy happening?06:41
cilkayTrivially easy actually.06:42
cilkayIt's quite self-contained so it doesn't really matter that it doesn't have a package.06:43
cilkaysudo -i06:43
chairmancilkay06:43
cilkaycd /usr/local; tar xzf /path/to/your/celtx/tarball06:43
cilkayThat will expand the tarball into /usr/local06:43
cilkayTo invoke, /usr/local/celtx/celtx06:44
cilkay... as per the docs on their wiki.06:44
cilkayThe UI will have that characteristic Mozilla look.06:45
cilkayI'm glad you asked the question dygash. I now have another piece of the multimedia application puzzle for the school that I'm helping to convert to Linux.06:46
draikI am trying to connect to my girl's computer via TSClient and when prompted for the password, I am unable to enter anything in the box.06:46
cilkaydraik: I use krdc for that purpose. Works fine for me.06:47
dwidmanndraik: maybe it's just not showing you what you input06:47
draikcilkay: She's on WinXP, I'm on Kubuntu06:48
dwidmanndraik: try typing blind and hitting enter06:48
draikI did. It doesn't work06:48
draik:(06:48
cilkaydraik: Yes, I presumed that.06:48
* dwidmann seconds kdrc06:49
dwidmann**krdc06:49
cilkaydraik: In the "remote desktop" field, I type: rdp:/WindowHost06:49
cilkay... in krdc06:49
dygashcilkay:  having trouble finding the path, its on the desktop06:49
draikRDP will log her out of the account.06:49
cilkayFinding what path?06:49
dygashto celtx06:50
draikI'm trying VNC so we can screen share at the same time06:50
cilkaydygash: ~/Desktop06:50
dygashcd/user/local; tar xzf ~/desktop/celtx/tarball ?06:50
cilkaydygash: Actually, more like /home/dygash/Desktop06:50
cilkaycd /usr/local06:51
draikNo possible way to stream at the same time?06:51
dygashsorry cdspace user06:51
cilkayNo "e" and note the space.06:51
cilkaydygash: A fellow Torontonian!06:52
dygashcilkay:  just moved here, from England originally06:53
cilkaydraik: There is some screen sharing thing built into Windows but I have no idea how to use it. VNC should let you do that but you don't use rdp for VNC. krdc will work for either rdp or vnc protocols.06:54
dwidmanndygash: though it's tempting to say usr, it's educational to know that it actually stands for unix system resources or some such ... hehehe06:54
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dygashcilkay:  sorry to be a pain cd usr/local; tar xzf /home/'dygash'/Desktop/celtx/tarball isn't finding it apparently06:55
cilkaydygash: BASH has file name completion.06:55
cilkayUse it to your advantage.06:56
cilkayI don't know if your home directory is actually /home/dygash06:56
cilkaySubstitute whatever your username is for dygash.06:56
dygashi have06:56
cilkay... and lose the quotes06:56
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dygashquotes were to emphasis i understood that part sorry06:57
cilkaydygash: Actually, Desktop is where Mozilla downloaded *my* file. Sorry, I should have mentioned that your file might be elsewhere.06:57
cilkayI'm getting dozy at this late hour.06:57
cilkaydygash: To invoke file name completion, you hit the Tab key as you type, by the way.06:58
cilkayIt saves a lot of typing (and mistakes).06:59
dwidmanncilkay: when passing out instructions, it's more convenient to use $USER ... that way people don't have to edit it :)06:59
cilkaytrue06:59
cilkaydygash: http://wiki.celtx.com/index.php?title=Installation07:00
cilkayI'm off. Good night.07:00
dwidmannnight07:00
luke:D Finally I got Celktx working! I was F1'ing before but then was in the windowed shell and it worked fine, strange07:13
tuxwulf_Any idea how to get my BT mouse going?07:23
tapowill we see updated kde4 packages for hardy/ppa? having too much chrashes... :-/07:23
DevSolarIs someone willing to answer one or two newbie questions regarding (K)ubuntu package management? /me is confused...07:30
tapoDevSolar: just ask07:30
DarthFrogDevSolar: Sure.07:30
DevSolarAdept... how come that apt-get (on the command line) "sees" packages that e.g. Adept doesn't? (Point in case: apt-get -s install eclipse-cdt looks fine, Adept doesn't find eclipse-cdt at all.)07:32
DevSolarSecond question: Is there some way to "search" the available packages, e.g. "show me all packages matching *xyz*" or something like that? (Coming from Gentoo, I miss emerge --search...)07:33
DevSolarThird (and last): Is there some way to see a dependency graph? Sometimes I got a package that07:34
DevSolar*looks* like the right one (excuse the stray \n there...), but I'm not sure if I got the top-level package or merely a dependency... (vim-runtime? vim-full?)07:35
DarthFrogDevSolar: I confirm your first question.  Synaptic doesn't find eclipse-cdt yet apt-get wants to install 100's of packages.07:36
tapoDevSolar: second question: apt-cache search name [name2]  - but finds lots of other stuff. You can use grep to filter the output07:36
DevSolartapo: excellent, I will try that.07:37
DarthFrogDevSolar: For your second question: either use a GUI like Adept or Synaptic and search or, from the command line use apt-cache search <pattern> | grep whatever.07:37
unitypunkmann07:37
unitypunkx11vnc sucks..07:37
DevSolarDarthFrog: Hm-hmm.... tried the Adept approach, that's what led me to question #1 (doesn't see everything). ;-)07:37
DarthFrogDevSolar: For your 3rd question, do a generic search for what you're looking for and poke around the results.07:38
DevSolarapt-cache search looks like just the thing I missed. Vielen Dank!07:39
DarthFrogOK, I just went back to Synaptic.  I must have had a typo the first time cuz it sees eclipse-cdt.07:39
DevSolarDarthFrog: So it's Adept that's faulty?07:40
DarthFrogAnd Adept sees eclipse-cdt when searching for eclipse.07:41
DevSolarHmpf...07:41
DarthFrogBut not when searching for eclipse-cdt.  Bizarre.07:41
DarthFrogAdept doesn't see *anything* when searching for eclipse-07:42
DevSolaradept_manager even finds eclipse-cdt, adept_install doesn't. Fun. (Not.)07:42
DarthFrogNevermind eclipse-cdt.  Just the hyphen alone.07:42
DarthFrogThat's truly weird.  BTW, I'm using Intrepid Beta, not Hardy.07:43
DevSolarOK, thanks guys.07:45
tapoDarthFrog: is kded4 still crashing in intrepid? I am totally depressed with kde 4.1.2 from hardy/ppa07:45
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unity`Buntuhey.. im having trouble mounting my ntfs partition08:02
unity`Buntugot it..08:09
scriptxwhere can i get the kubuntu kernel source08:10
scriptxfor 2.6.24-2108:10
unity`Buntutightvnc08:10
tmbg_script from synaptic or adept, I would think.08:11
scriptxthere is nothing there matching source08:11
scriptxjust headers08:11
tmbg_or do you mean from some other os besides kubuntu?08:11
scriptxhrm08:14
scriptxok08:14
scriptx2.6.24-21-generic08:14
scriptxso i need to patch in there08:14
zbyszekhi08:15
zbyszeki have a serious problem08:15
zbyszekwith x server08:15
scriptx?08:15
zbyszekafter upgrade it doesnt start at all08:15
scriptxwhat happens?08:16
zbyszekhmm to be perfectly honest, i use external screen in my laptop since the lcd is broken, so just a few seconds after starting X08:16
zbyszekscreen gets blank and inactive08:16
scriptxis your xorg.conf file setup for this second monitor?08:16
scriptxeven after upgrade?08:16
zbyszekits not, but i have never nedded it, because i started with external screen from the very beginning08:17
zbyszekbut maybe i have to do this08:17
scriptxit was detected from the beginning08:17
zbyszekyes08:17
zbyszekfrom BIOS08:17
scriptxcheck in /etc/X11 for xorg.conf.*08:18
unity`Buntuhow would i make compiz start at boot?08:18
scriptxis there an old one?08:18
scriptxunity`Buntu: systemsettings, advanced, session08:18
scriptxchange the window manager08:18
zbyszekwell i have only one backup, it was created just a few seconds before, with recovery ption08:18
unity`Buntuthanks08:18
zbyszekall previous versions are gone08:18
zbyszeki have only kdm08:18
wyhany body hear me?08:19
zbyszekscriptx, hmm just after i tried to start x manually with startx08:19
zbyszeksystem doesnt respond at all08:19
scriptxi would try restoring th eold config08:19
zbyszekeven fot alt prt scr SUB08:20
scriptxif that doesn't work zbyszek, then reboot to single user08:20
scriptxand do the xfix option08:20
unity`Buntuyou liee08:20
unity`Buntunothing about compiz there08:20
scriptxwhat version of kde, unity`Buntu ?08:20
unity`Buntu3.508:20
zbyszekscriptx, i cant find it, seems like after upgrade it destroyed them08:20
unity`Buntukde308:20
scriptxoh, idk then unity08:20
zbyszekno more files in etc x1108:20
unity`Buntugah08:20
scriptxshould be in the kcontrol i would guess08:21
scriptxor just add it to a shellscript in .kde/Autostart08:21
scriptxzbyszek: reboot and try xfix08:21
zbyszekok, now it checking the disk with fsck...08:21
zbyszekscriptx, xfix command not found08:26
scriptxit's not a command08:28
scriptxwhen you boot from grub into recovery mode08:28
scriptxthere is a menu08:28
scriptxfor some xfix of somesort08:28
zbyszeki did it08:29
zbyszekwith no result08:29
scriptxthis is no mystery08:30
scriptxhttp://swik.net/xfix08:30
scriptxelsewise, i cannot help you08:31
scriptxsorry08:31
scriptxi am off to bed08:31
scriptxit;s 4am almost08:31
zbyszekok thx anyway08:31
scriptxyou could try booting a live cd08:32
scriptxsee if the output works08:32
scriptxif it does08:32
scriptxthen copy the tempfs /etc/X11/xorg.conf to /mnt/sdX/etc/X1108:32
scriptxgood luck08:32
scriptx:/08:32
pantheradis anyone here that can help with a driver install issue?08:34
tMishWhat happened to kpdf in intrepid ? apt-get doesn't find it08:35
roganwhat driver08:39
dcrabstMish: it has been replaced by okular (KDE4)08:42
Reed_Solomonokular doesn't seem to open zip files in the latest update.08:42
Reed_Solomoni think it did before08:43
dcrabswith zip files you mean archives or zipped pdf files?08:43
Reed_Solomonarchives08:43
Reed_Solomonof jpgs for example08:43
dcrabsi guess than ark is the program you need08:43
Reed_Solomoncomics and manga and stuff are often distributed in that way08:44
dcrabsah i see08:44
Reed_Solomonno im pretty sure it worked before08:44
Reed_Solomonand qcomicbook stalls on zipped/rarred files now too08:44
dcrabsmaybe the backend is missing08:44
dcrabsunrar for example08:44
Reed_Solomonthen again, im using intrepid08:44
Reed_Solomonno its there08:45
dcrabssorry i have no file to test here.08:45
zer0ohi i have to turn some monuments' images into icons (like flip art e.g.) and put them on a map, can u suggest some good software?09:06
amerigo!dos09:14
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about dos09:14
amerigo! D.O.S09:14
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about d.o.s09:14
amerigo! D.O.S.09:14
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about d.o.s.09:14
amerigoHow can I define If alsa is still working09:30
amerigokubuntu hardy 8.0409:30
amerigo???09:30
jonathan_hello, and a good morning :D09:30
amerigogood morning to you09:30
jonathan_i have a short question :)09:30
jonathan_i was using dolphin as the default filemanager right now09:31
amerigohardy?09:31
jonathan_and i know i cant change this, but i started using konqueror and was wondering if it is possible to have the same or a similar media menu within it. I mean a menu where all drives are listed, even the not mounted device and where i have the opportunity to mount them... is that possible with konqueror? :)09:32
jonathan_8.04 with kde 3.5.1009:32
amerigo??09:33
frozzenfirehey guys im having a lot of trouble with my mic09:34
frozzenfirebefore it was working fine but idk what happened09:34
frozzenfirecan someone help me? kinda new to linux here09:34
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bakinobuongiorno a tuti09:54
dwibudiyuhuu09:54
bakinoscusate...09:54
dwibudiapa artinya09:55
bakinomi sa che devo avere qualche problema con le scritte nelle pagine09:55
bakinosono un pò troppo larghe...09:55
dwibudienglish ?09:56
zer0obakino vai su #ubuntu-it09:56
bakinothanks09:56
zer0ohi guys how do i change an app's icon in the icon tray? is that possible?09:56
dwibudiindonesian ?.09:58
bazhang!id | dwibudi09:59
ubottudwibudi: join ke #ubuntu-id untuk membahas ubuntu dalam bahasa Indonesia09:59
zer0obazhang: u no how to change icons in the icon tray?10:01
baudthiefargh, I changed from dolphin to konqueror using the file associations applet in kcontrol, but having issues with compiz animations10:18
baudthiefnow everytime I try and change back, nothing happens, konqueror still takes over!10:18
baudthiefany ideas?10:18
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baudthiefnevermind got it, for some reason I had to change the "inode" association in Konqueror to dolphin also10:22
alewe__hi @all10:32
alewe__spricht man hier DE10:32
vlt!de | alewe__10:33
ubottualewe__: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de10:33
alewe__Danke vlt10:33
vltHello. What exactly happens when I click on "remove usb storage device safely"? I mean what else than [p]umount?10:35
favrovlt: afaik it finishes any writing then unmounts it10:36
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vltfavro: There must be something more. When I just umount manually, the connected mobile phone doesn't recognise that it's "disconnected" now. But does when clicking "remove safely". Any idea? Something like an usb port reset?10:39
favrovlt: no further ideas sorry :)10:41
capcomhi all10:42
Farhadixhi guys, I have a rs-232 mouse, that it dosen't work in kubuntu how run it?10:43
DexterFhi10:46
DexterFAdept just presented me with an update to kde 3.5.10. I'm a bit puzzled, is this official?10:47
favroif your repos are official it will be10:47
chri1Hey, anyone here?10:52
chri1have a question about ubuntu10:53
favrothere is #ubuntu for ubuntu questions10:53
chri1ah thanks.10:53
favrohere's for kubuntu10:53
chri1ok.  dont know what kubuntu is.. :)  Ill go to that room.  have a good one.10:53
roganlol10:53
favroheh10:54
DexterFjeez I wonder how some people find here....10:54
DexterFfavro: according to apt-cache policy it's from "hardy-updates".10:55
favroshould be fine then10:55
DexterFwhich sources.list entry includes that? there's no line saying "updates" specifically10:56
DexterFnevermind, there actually is that line, didnt see it at first10:57
favroI thought that was all of them10:57
favrok10:57
DexterFok, another thing: EnvyNG and the 177.80 driver. I'd like to have that but it's not in EnvyNG. Whom do I have to speak to, the kubuntu devs or the EnvyNG author?10:58
DexterFi.e., does EnvyNG have some kind of online update function by itself or is it hardcoded?10:59
favrotry apt-get source envyng maybe - I know it is not a kubuntu app10:59
favroI don't need to use it11:00
jussi01DexterF: its curious, I thought it should auto take the latest one. (I was wrong obviously. check with alberto - the writer of it11:00
DexterFit is in the official repos11:00
jussi01DexterF: please let me know what you find out. it would be nice to know.11:00
DexterFjussi01: will do. thing is, the EnvyNG package from the universe repository was released when 177 wasn't out, so I rather expect that (k)ubuntu needs to get a new package11:01
DexterFbut ill check11:01
jussi01DexterF: yeah, I imagined it downloaded $newestdriver from the site, but I was obviously wrong.11:03
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randryHi guys11:50
randryis anyone know how do I convert an hard copy scanned data to a data which I can plot?11:51
ubuntu__привет всем11:51
randryany idea?11:52
bazhang!ru | ubuntu__11:52
ubottuubuntu__: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke11:52
ubuntu__есть рускоговорящие?11:52
randrywhat?11:52
sokolЕсть :)11:53
sokolGo to #ubuntu-ru11:54
sokolиди на канал #ubuntu-ru11:54
baudthiefwow, kde4 is terrible!11:54
baudthiefkde3.5 seems alot more solid ;\11:54
randrysolid for what?11:55
randrydo u know how to digitized a scanned data?11:55
baudthiefas in, works better, seems as though more devtime went into it11:55
baudthiefdefine digitize :P technically scanning is digitising11:56
randryI mean convert a plot to a data11:57
randrylike , when u have a publication , and want to get the data which plotted this11:58
baudthiefahh, I dont know if its that easy for graphical data12:00
baudthiefI know you can get OCR software for graphics-to-text12:00
DarkSmokeguys12:01
baudthiefsomething like Kooka12:01
randryok12:01
DarkSmokei tried re-installing intrepid but still same problem as yesterday , when i do the updates and reboot the pc im ending without network connection12:01
DarkSmoke:S12:01
BlueEagle!ibex12:04
ubottuAlpha Software: Intrepid Ibex is the code name for K/ubuntu 8.10, due October 30th 2008 - #ubuntu+1 for discussion. Kubuntu Intrepid will have KDE 4 as the default Desktop Environment - see  https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuIntrepidVersion | Warning lots of breaking software between now and October!12:04
BlueEagleDarkSmoke: Sounds like a misconfigured kernel.12:04
serghi pls tell me how to start program like xine on second screen without xinerama, thank you12:08
FoxIIIHey all. I'm using knetwork manager with wireless. If I leave my computer on, not using it, after a few hours it disconnects - even if I'm downloading something while I'm away. and the only way I can get it back is if I turn off my machine and back on. A reset won't connect when kde is showing. Any ideas?12:12
rogancould be a router setting??/12:13
serghow to force program to run on second screen, without xinerama?12:15
FoxIIIhmm. Thanks rogan. I'll see if I can check them :)12:16
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zer0oFoxill: what wifi card are you using and what driver?12:25
testiI want to suspend to RAM when i'm logged out and the laptop lid closes. Not just when I'm logged in.12:29
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NasjHi all12:29
FoxIIIHey Nasj12:30
Nasjhi FoxIII :D12:31
FoxIIIzer0o,  netgear with blkwgd7 through ndiswrapper.12:33
FoxIIINasj,  you should join #kubuntu-offtopic too.12:33
NasjOK :P12:34
zer0ondiswrapper is buggy12:35
zer0oi'll suggest u to remove knetwork manager and replace it with WICD but do not remove it before u try out wicd cuz otherwise ur not gonna be able to re-connect and ull be stuck12:35
zer0oits in the repos12:36
FoxIIISo I can download and try WICD without uninstalling knetwork manager? All I have to do to try WICD would be to disable knetwork manager?12:37
testiI want to configure global suspend settings that are always valid (also when I'm logged out) I have KDE4. Where can I configure that?12:41
testiups12:41
testiKDE3.512:41
ActionParsnipyo yo yo12:51
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cuzntmy screen size changed and  i can not make it fit again13:38
ActionParsnipcuznt: how do you mean13:43
cuznti can not change the screen res to make it fit13:43
cuznteven on admin mode13:43
shiwalalythbest kdenlive version (acc. to stability ?)13:44
shiwalalythplz help13:45
cuzntres 640x480 55hz13:46
cuzntits like my screen is not big enough13:46
cuzntsuddenly13:47
shiwalalythbest stable version of kdenlive folks! plz gotta help got to submit a cool vid at school tmrw :((13:47
cuzntThe Kubuntu 8.04 CDs available here contain the commercially supported version, featuring the stable KDE 3.5.9 desktop.13:49
shiwalalythwow is it a recent development cuznt ?13:49
ActionParsnipcuznt: have you installed graphics drivers?13:49
shiwalalythI've got 3.5 along with mine13:49
cuzntyes13:49
cuznti should uninstall it eh?13:50
ActionParsnipcuznt: how did you install them?13:50
cuzntthrough hardware drivers in my menu13:50
cuznti am undooing it now13:51
cuzntand will restart13:51
cuzntaduh13:51
* cuznt forgot i did that13:51
cuzntbrb13:52
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Assurbanipalhi guys... how can i add more file types (openoffice docs) in the "create new.." menu of dolphin?14:04
ActionParsnipAssurbanipal: good question14:06
AssurbanipalActionParsnip, is it doable?14:06
eagles0513875!kernel14:07
ubottuThe core of the Ubuntu Operating System is the Linux kernel: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel - You shouldn't have to compile your own, but if you're convinced you do, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile - See also: /msg ubottu stages14:07
eagles0513875ActionParsnip: how do i check what version of the kernel im running14:07
ActionParsnipAssurbanipal: i dont see why not14:07
ActionParsnipeagles0513875: uname -a14:07
eagles0513875ActionParsnip: thats interesting14:07
eagles0513875i was having problems getting this kernel to load the desktop14:08
AssurbanipalActionParsnip, ok, how??14:08
eagles0513875turned out that i didnt have the right video card driver installed14:08
eagles0513875i have the one in the repo installed now and its working with 21 kernel14:08
ActionParsnipeagles0513875: if you use envy you get that14:10
ActionParsnipAssurbanipal: not sure, you could contact the dolphin devs14:10
AssurbanipalActionParsnip, how?14:10
ActionParsnipAssurbanipal: im fairly sure its a simple line in a conf file someplace14:10
ActionParsnipAssurbanipal: go to the dolphin website and find a contact us address14:11
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[|Liam|]Hey is there a help channel on here?14:11
[|Liam|]for Kubuntu14:11
Nasjliam :o14:11
[|Liam|]Yeah?14:12
Nasjsorry tought you were someone else14:12
Nasj:P14:12
[|Liam|]lol14:12
Nasjtaht goes by same nick14:12
emilsedgh[|Liam|]: just ask your question man.14:12
[|Liam|]You got any idea how to get Java working on Kubuntu?14:12
emilsedgh!java | [|Liam|]14:12
ubottu[|Liam|]: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre or sun-java6-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu !Dapper14:12
eagles0513875ActionParsnip: wasnt14:13
ActionParsnip[|Liam|]: i install icedtea and i get java on my 64bit rigs14:13
eagles0513875i enabled the driver in the hardware manager ActionParsnip14:13
[|Liam|]!multiverse14:13
ubottuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories14:13
ActionParsnipeagles0513875: oh, ive never used that myself14:13
eagles0513875ActionParsnip: its worth a shot14:13
[|Liam|]Ugh Java was so much easier to install on Ubuntu >.<14:13
ActionParsnipeagles0513875: im happy with envy, works flawlessly for me14:14
eagles0513875[|Liam|]: sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre sun-java6-jdk14:14
emilsedgh[|Liam|]: just install the same package you installed on ubuntu.14:14
eagles0513875ActionParsnip: what kinda of card do you have14:14
ActionParsnipeagles0513875: onboard nvidia 6200 or something14:14
eagles0513875i have an 8800gt in my desktop14:14
eagles0513875i have yet to get kubuntu working on my hp laptop14:15
* Tm_T is evil and setup his Xorg by hand14:15
Frekuhpuntu  :)14:15
eagles0513875[|Liam|]: i installed those 2 pkgs and java works for me just fine14:15
ActionParsnipTm_T: me too, not hard is it14:16
cuzntscreen resolution is still messed up14:16
eagles0513875Tm_T: remember i was having issue with kernels after 1614:16
ActionParsnipcuznt: what vga card do you have?14:17
cuzntit just started14:17
cuznti have 2 hard drives14:17
cuznt1 resoluton is perfect14:17
cuznt#214:17
cuzntnot14:17
cuzntnvida driver14:18
ActionParsnipcuznt: whats a hard drive got to do with graphics cards?14:18
cuznti have no idea14:18
cuzntwhy14:18
ActionParsnipthen why say it??14:18
ActionParsnipso you have a ubuntu install with bad res.14:18
cuzntiguess14:18
ActionParsnipwhat nvidia card do you have?14:18
cuznti think 414:18
ActionParsnipcuznt: lspci will tell you14:18
cuznt01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV34 [GeForce FX 5500] (rev a1)14:19
ServaHey. Does anyone know of a website that can tell you about the station offering cheapest gas, new york?14:19
ActionParsnipcuznt: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3314214:20
cuzntty14:20
Frekupff lots of updates in the adept updater14:24
[|Liam|]Same lol14:28
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ActionParsniponly 80Mb14:29
eagles0513875Freku: u on intrepid14:30
Frekunop  totally standard here14:35
Frekuhow you get those red letters14:36
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HexagownHello Guys! Finally weeked! :D Lots of Linux now ^^14:37
Frekubest of linux : its there all week14:37
Hexagown:D14:41
eagles0513875[|Liam|]: ask ur question in here i have no idea even though u have the jdk jre installed y u getting just a grey box14:42
[|Liam|]Dunno how to phrase it lol14:43
HexagownWell, as usuall I come here with a problem ;) and now I need help to install some Direct 3d stuffs14:43
Hexagowni have a homepage.14:43
Hexagownhttp://vostrolinux.blogspot.com/2007/11/setting-up-battlefield-2.html14:43
ActionParsnipHexagown: have you installed graphics drivers14:43
eagles0513875ActionParsnip: i told [|Liam|] to install sun-java6-jre and jdk but for some reaosn when trying to load rune scape hes getting a grey box14:43
HexagownBut when Iv unziped the things, i cant move it with http://vostrolinux.blogspot.com/2007/11/setting-up-battlefield-2.html14:44
HexagownYes, iv installed my card14:44
ActionParsnipeagles0513875: i had that, i installed icedtea and java is fine14:44
HexagownCan't use mv d3dx9_24.dll d3dx9_25.dll ~/.wine/drive_c/windows/system3214:44
eagles0513875[|Liam|]: try install icedtea14:44
[|Liam|]From where/How.14:44
eagles0513875ActionParsnip: should i do the same cuz ff isnt even picking up java jdk and jre and i have them installed14:44
eagles0513875sudo apt-get install icedtea14:45
ActionParsnipHexagown: looks fairly straightforward, where do you trip?14:45
[|Liam|]I'll give that a go now.14:45
Frekusudo apt-get me a coffre14:45
HexagownAnd when i try to på regedit I can't find HKEY_CurrentUser>Software>Wine>Direct3D14:45
ActionParsnipeagles0513875: you could try symlinking the .so to ~/.mozilla/plugins14:45
[|Liam|]Freku -I I wish.14:45
[|Liam|]lol14:45
Freku:)14:45
eagles0513875ActionParsnip: i was goign to autoremove the jdk jre from sun and install icedtea14:45
HexagownI try when I shall go into regedit.14:45
[|Liam|]Speaking of Coffee, i fancy some biscuits.14:46
ActionParsnipHexagown: is there a wine key in the software key?14:46
HexagownCannot find the map14:46
[|Liam|]ActionParsnip: E: Couldn't find package icedtea14:46
Frekubiscuits arent free , open source14:46
HexagownWhat to you mean?14:46
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ActionParsnip[|Liam|]: http://pastebin.com/f58c1eda514:47
[|Liam|]ActionParsnip:  what should I do with this?14:47
ActionParsnip[|Liam|]: those are the pakage names you need14:48
[|Liam|]Oh14:48
HexagownWhat do you mean with  is there a wine key in the software key?14:48
[|Liam|]So I use: sudo apt-get install ii  icedtea-gcjwebplugin14:48
[|Liam|]?14:48
ActionParsnip[|Liam|]: one you may find is not on the repos as I had to install one manually14:49
eagles0513875Freku: OT14:49
ActionParsnip[|Liam|]: but you can find the deb online and install it14:49
FrekuOT ?14:49
DrThraxjello14:49
Frekuah i got it14:49
Frekuhehe14:49
eagles0513875ActionParsnip: since iced tea is transitional pkgs is there anything else like openjdk and any of that stuff i need to install14:50
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ActionParsnipHexagown: the folders in regedit are called keys14:50
HexagownYEs14:50
ActionParsnipeagles0513875: thats all i have for java14:50
eagles0513875ok14:50
ActionParsnipHexagown: ok so is there a wine key in the software key in regedit?14:51
HexagownBut there is no map with the name: Direct3D14:51
HexagownBut yes, the wine map is there14:52
ActionParsnipthen create it14:52
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Hexagownshall I make a map in regedit? O.o14:53
ActionParsnipHexagown: right click -> new -> key14:54
ActionParsnip?14:54
HexagownAt the Wine map?14:54
ActionParsnipHexagown: whatever is necessary to make your registry look like how it is described in the guide14:54
Hexagownokay, done14:54
Hexagownnow I'll try to go on...14:54
ActionParsnipis there no loki installer for the game14:55
utente6ciao14:56
[|Liam|]ActionParsnip:  you're a legend.14:56
ActionParsnip[|Liam|]: i try14:56
[|Liam|]icedtea-gcjwebplugin <-- dled that package and java works fine now.14:56
ActionParsnipsweet14:57
ActionParsnipyeah iced tea is great for 64bit java, i wish sun would pull their finger out14:57
[|Liam|]lol14:57
ActionParsnipas well as adobe14:58
eagles0513875ICEDTEA FTW14:59
[|Liam|]^14:59
eagles0513875lol14:59
ActionParsnipindeed14:59
eagles0513875ActionParsnip: never thought a drink would get java to work14:59
[|Liam|]LOL!15:00
ActionParsniphaha15:01
eagles0513875ActionParsnip: sry thats OT15:01
ActionParsnipwell when you run sun java you see a cup of coffee15:01
eagles0513875ActionParsnip: how come the sun java stuff has not been removed from repos if it dont work15:02
ActionParsnipit can with nspluginwrapper15:03
ActionParsnipplus it works with 32bit ubuntu15:03
ActionParsniptheres gnash for flash but ive not tried it as i can always get it to work15:04
cuznti had a screen resolution prb and did what forum said, but now it will not boot up15:06
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ActionParsnipcuznt: use the recover mode in grub to fix xorg.conf15:08
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cuzntis there a command to use please?15:08
ActionParsnipcuznt: no, reboot and press esc when it is offered then choose recovery for your current kernel15:10
ActionParsnipcuznt: then its all menus15:10
cuzntright on15:11
cuzntty again15:11
cuzntttfn15:11
eagles0513875what would setting up vpn entail15:14
ActionParsnip!vpn15:14
ubottuFrom more information on vpn please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Gaming_VPN_Using_PPTPD15:14
eagles0513875ActionParsnip: does that link also apply to cable connections15:15
ActionParsnipits a vpn to a remote server, it'll go over anything with a logical conection to the www15:15
cuzntdid not fix it15:16
eagles0513875ActionParsnip: ok kool15:16
daaliensomeone speak spanish here?15:16
cuzntoh wait15:16
cuzntit did15:16
cuzntthanks action15:17
eagles0513875!es | daalien15:17
ubottudaalien: En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.15:17
HexagownWhat command do i use to open a flie with Wine?15:17
eagles0513875daalien: is that what ur after15:17
ActionParsnipcuznt: you're probably gonna use that lots till you can wrestle xorg.conf15:17
eagles0513875Hexagown: u can normally double click and it opens with wine by default15:17
daalienI can speak on english but its too more easier for my to speak on spanish15:18
HexagownDont work with this file15:18
ActionParsnipHexagown: define "open"15:19
HexagownIt open whit Kate, but It shall be avible to open with Wine...15:20
HexagownThere is a command to open files with wine...15:20
eagles0513875Hexagown: right click and hit open with15:21
HexagownI yust dont know it...15:21
Hexagownyes, and then?15:21
eagles0513875then wine15:21
ActionParsnipHexagown: wine /path/to/program.exe15:21
HexagownThe wine file is not there.15:21
Hexagownok ty15:21
ActionParsnipHexagown: thats how you run an windows 32bit binary15:22
Hexagownok...15:23
HexagownI'll try to get it work, Im new with Linux.15:23
Hexagownshall I write wine /path/to/program.exe in Konsole?15:23
ActionParsnipHexagown: well replace the path stuff with where it actually is15:27
Hexagownye, ok ty15:27
ActionParsnipHexagown: wine ~/.wine/drive_c/.../...//15:27
ActionParsnipetc15:27
Hexagownk, thnx15:27
ActionParsnipyou will have installed to ~/.wine15:27
ActionParsniptab complete stuff from there15:27
ActionParsnipHexagown: once you've worked it out create a launcher or a script to run it easier15:28
HexagownOkay...15:29
HexagownI need some help to install my motherboard, becous my soundcars is on the motherboard...15:30
ActionParsnipHexagown: well you need to install sound drivers15:31
Hexagownits named elitegroup K8M800-M215:31
ActionParsniprun lspci to see what you have then websearch from there15:31
HexagownOkay, how do i do that?15:31
ActionParsnipdoesnt matter, you are driving the sound chip, not the board15:31
HexagownOkay, well when I try to call on skype, it says: Problem with Audio playback15:32
HexagownWhat's the matter then?15:32
ActionParsnipyou havent set up sound, skype uses sound15:32
ActionParsnipdo you get sounds from anything?15:32
HexagownHow do I do that then?15:32
HexagownWell, when I music in Amarok I got it15:33
ActionParsnipok so you have sound you just need to setup your sound server right15:33
HexagownOk, how?15:33
cuzntPoison Parsnip (also known as Wild Parsnip) looks similar to hemlock and is found in open places along roadsides and in waste places throughout the United States and Canada.15:33
ActionParsniptry heading into sound prefs and choosing ALSA as your sound service rather than auto15:33
cuzntbut you must be a different variety... ;)15:34
ActionParsnipcuznt: its also a sweet white carrot like vegetable15:34
HexagownIm Kmix?15:34
* cuznt knows.... i love them... just recalled my buddy had it on his back...15:34
cuzntonce15:35
ActionParsnipim the one in the cornetto wrapper with an action man boot on the bottom15:35
cuzntthanks again.... i will remember it15:35
ActionParsnipHexagown: no in system preferences15:35
HexagownAnd tehn Soundsystems?15:35
HexagownAllready have "ALSA device.15:36
ActionParsnipHexagown: whatever is in there, id have a websearch on how to change your sound server15:36
ActionParsnipthen try pulse15:37
HexagownOkay, well I have to restart, brb15:37
ServaI am already a fan of kubuntu, because of ktorrent! amazing speeds. :-)15:40
ActionParsnipServa: you'd get the same speed with any other client15:40
ActionParsnipServa: ktorrent also can have a web interface so you can administer systems if you port forward to it15:41
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Guest14HexagownOk, Im back, so what shall I google for to get the sound stuffs?15:42
ActionParsnipGuest14Hexagown: does pulse not sort your issue?15:43
Guest14HexagownWhat is pulse? :S15:47
Guest14Hexagowngot an Topic here http://forum.skype.com/index.php?showtopic=10162915:47
Guest14HexagownMight get the 1.4 instead15:47
Quetzlcoatlhi15:52
Guest14HexagownHow do I start PulseAudio?15:53
Quetzlcoatlquestion: how can i set/unset, lets say execute rights, on a group of file ?15:54
mdrWhy is my 'Adept Updater', automatically updating/installing all the kde 4 packages?   I didn't previously have the kde 4 desktop installed as far as I know.  Will this uninstall kde 3?  Which will be the default?  I've been holding off because it takes time to get the kinks out.15:56
noam_uh... hi. i'm going to install ubuntu (probably kubuntu) about.. tomorrow. on a new computer. in my new apartment. anyway, my question is: should i get 8.10 beta or install 8.04.1 and upgrade in two weeks?15:58
noam_i'm also a bit wary about the whole KDE4 thing - does it work well enough to be used today? i realize it may not be too smart to ask that question here, but still15:59
mdrt 39 I installed hardy 8.04 and was leary of kde4 as well.  Wanted to give it time.   Today I'm getting kde4 updates (their more or less automatic).  Don't know how I managed that.  Maybe it was the extra repository I added?   I guess I'm being updated to 8.10 beta?   Noone is answering.   Must be a stupid question.16:03
mdr8.04 workded like a dream by they why.  Never had such a trouble free operating system.    I'm probably gonna be screwed now ;)16:05
[|Liam|]Lol16:07
Nasjhmm16:08
NasjIs partitioning an option during install of kubuntu 8.04.1 or do you have to do that forehand ?16:09
Nicola_*sigh*16:11
mdrI believe, it's an option if you know what you're doing.  The install puts root and home on a single partition.   Which sucks IMO16:11
Nasjhmm16:11
Nasjwell i dont really know what i am doing :p16:11
Nasjyet..16:12
mdrIit can also be redone later.   You'll need extra space16:13
NasjBut what i meant is16:13
NasjI want to dual boot16:13
Nasjand I have this storage HDD16:13
Nasjon wich i would like to install linux16:14
Nasjbut is it an option during the install to make a partiton of say 25gb of that storage HDD16:14
Nasjfor kubuntu16:14
Nasj?16:14
Quetzlcoatlis that possible to bold some text in a bash script ?16:22
maestrolinuxhttp://s2.ar.bitefight.org/c.php?uid=1973216:34
Nasjhmm16:40
Nasjsomeone on here who can help me ?16:40
emilsedgh!ask | Nasj16:41
ubottuNasj: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)16:41
Nasjok :P16:41
NasjDo I have to pre-partition my half full storage HDD before installing kubuntu or is that an option during install.16:42
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mdrIt's an option during the install.16:46
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mdrPlus you can always cancel the install, if you get to that point and then freak out16:47
dr_willisI tend to resize partitions using a live cd.. but thats just me.. :)16:47
Nasjok16:48
Nasjany geuss on how long the installation can take ?16:48
mdrHowever, always backup first16:48
mdrBetter safe than sorry16:49
Nasjyeah :p16:49
dr_willisPerhaps an hr.. depends on how liong the hd takes to get resized16:49
Nasjhhm16:50
Nasjok16:50
Nasjwell thanks for the help and advice :D16:51
LeeJunFanI've got a screen flicker on my nvidia gfx powered machine, I found a thread which says it's a power management thing and to write a script to run glxinfo every few seconds to stop it - I was hoping there was a better solution?17:18
AciDHello17:20
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x-X-xhow do i se the macro name of my soundcards?17:31
ServaMy mouse is acting super active on even a slightest move. Can I lower down the speed of its movement? Is it because of the compiz installation?17:33
a|wenServa: you can change it in system settings > keyboard & mouse > mouse > advanced > pointer acceleration17:35
Servaa|wen, right now it is 2x17:36
Servawhat configuration do you have?17:36
a|weni have 2.0x as well ... but might depend on which mouse you have, so try lowering it and see if it helps17:36
ServaI am using touch pad, on my T61 thinkpad17:37
a|wendoes it slow down if you set it to 1.0x or 0.5x even?17:37
Servaawesome! yes it does17:38
ServaI am using it now at 1.5x17:38
Servatks a|wen17:39
a|wencool ... no problem Serva17:39
colocloneI think lshw -class multimedia17:43
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fvelillahello17:46
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fvelillaanybody knows how to fix add/remove programs after adding an bad third party repository?17:48
JackWinterhiya, i'm trying to get a fullscreen game going.  what hotkey can i press to put the game in the background and regain my desktop without having to do ctrl-alt-bksp ?17:52
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x-X-xanyone here can help me with a pulseaudio problem?  i enter this command 'pulseaudio -k; sleep 4; pulseaudio -vv'  and this is the output ==> http://pastebin.com/d40f48bee  nothing is accessing the soundcard that i am aware of. Is there anything i can do to terminate anything using the soundcard so that it wont appear as "busy" and BTW i have already restarted 3 times18:06
x-X-xwhen i type "pulseaudio"  ==> http://pastebin.com/d4c9e2d7f18:06
x-X-xnoone is answering me over at #pulseaudio18:07
geniix-X-x: Perhaps ask also in #alsa18:09
x-X-xk18:10
helpthisnoobiecan anyone help me with making a theme for my desktop.18:14
helpthisnoobiei want to make something like paddock or sigma dock....with widgets and all18:15
helpthisnoobiei just need a little help18:15
aleksi_hey how can i connect IRCnet whit konversation18:23
genii/server different.servername.goes.here18:24
aleksi_?18:25
aleksi_didn't work18:26
geniialeksi_:  For where I have "different.servername.goes.here"     use on of the ircnet server names that is listed at this site: http://irc.tu-ilmenau.de/all_servers/18:27
aleksi_genii: thanx for help18:29
geniialeksi_: You're welcome18:29
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urbill18:36
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DexterFhi18:41
DexterFmy gimp is english, I'd like it german. how?18:41
DarthFrogInstall language-pack-de language-support-translations-de and gimp-help-de18:46
slow-motionhi18:49
raulhola18:49
raulespañol18:50
raul??18:50
Kohlrabiraul: join #kubuntu-es18:50
raulok18:50
snovadoes anybody know why there would all of a sudden be 160MB of kde updates today? they weren't there yesterday. they're all a minor revision different.18:54
snovajust wondering where these came from...18:55
snovaguess i'll find out when it finishes and i can read the changelogs18:56
Riddell** Kubuntu meeting in three minutes in #kubuntu-devel18:58
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[|Liam|]What is the package name for Flash Player?19:16
[|Liam|]I want to install it via sudo19:16
coloclonesudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree flashplayer-nonfree19:19
[|Liam|]thanks19:21
[|Liam|]coloclone: E: Couldn't find package flashplayer-nonfree19:24
ali_hello everyone19:45
mathiasjAyo?;P19:48
mathiasjWassup?19:48
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ali_is anyone interested to chat on SD card readers19:50
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bleakedwill qtcurve be an available option in 8.10?20:04
IndephysisHey, there used to be a package floating around that was stuff like MP3 playback and video codecs. Anyone got that?20:05
jonathan__hello!20:05
jonathan__i've a short question20:05
jonathan__where can i find the menu to mount devices in konqueror?20:05
bleakedIndephysis: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu20:07
helpthisnoobieI cant find the .kde folder in my system can anyone help.20:10
unitypunkheyy20:12
Indephysisbleaked: I had just found Kubuntu-Restricted.20:12
helpthisnoobieyeah that;s wat u need20:13
helpthisnoobietype20:14
helpthisnoobie    *20:14
helpthisnoobie      sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras20:14
jonathan__no ideas for my question?20:14
IndephysisNow I'm trying to remember how to enable Windowslike mousewheel click scrolling.20:14
bluesceadablargh20:15
bluesceadaanyone can help20:15
bluesceadawait sorry20:15
bluesceadadoesnt belong here....20:15
bluesceadahmm maybe you can help anyway20:18
bluesceadaanyone knows how to fix the problem with just having channels up to 11 supported :S20:18
bluesceadausing a iwl394520:19
bluesceadalots of aps use over channel 11 here so I really have a problem :/20:19
helpthisnoobieindephysis have you checked ur system settings20:21
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IndephysisThat's quite a lot of settings to go through.20:21
[|Liam|]Does anyone know the Sudo command for limewire?20:22
helpthisnoobiein the keyboard and mouse settings20:22
IndephysisI'm not really finding it yet.20:22
IndephysisRight now it's pasting which is SUPER irritating20:23
helpthisnoobieopen system settings20:23
Indephysisand then20:23
helpthisnoobieu have an option under 'computer administration' that says 'keyboard & mouse'20:24
unitypunki would like help with a wifi issue20:24
Indephysisyes, i do, which i just went in and didn't see anything under20:24
helpthisnoobiedid u click on the mouse on the left hand side20:25
Indephysisyeah i did, helpthisnoobie20:26
helpthisnoobienothing to change it there...I have this on a laptop20:27
helpthisnoobieno mouse20:27
helpthisnoobieok scratch all the indephysis20:29
IndephysisOkay!20:29
helpthisnoobietype kcontrol in run command20:29
DarthFrogHmm, kcontrol doesn't seem to exist anymore in Intrepid.20:30
helpthisnoobieoh ok im still on hardy20:30
helpthisnoobiedid u try it anyway20:31
IndephysisI'm installing kcontrol20:31
DarthFroghelpthisnoobie & Indephysis  There's also kmousetool.20:31
helpthisnoobieyeah u can get that thru adept20:32
Indephysiskmousetool seems like a better idea20:32
Indephysisexcept it doesn't seem to do what I want.20:32
helpthisnoobiei been using kubuntu for about  4 months only20:32
DarthFroghelpthisnoobie: You're doing fine.20:32
helpthisnoobietrying to help with wat i've learned myself20:33
IndephysisI have suspicions that at one point I was cursed by an ancient witch doctor.20:33
IndephysisIt'd explain why every time I try to do something end up fumbling explaining it.20:33
[|Liam|]Is it possible to open Debian files with Kubuntu?20:33
DarthFrogThere's also the mousetweaks programme.  I have no idea whether it will help Indephysis  or not, though.20:34
IndephysisDo you want me to re-explain what I'm after?20:34
DarthFrog[|Liam|]: Define open.20:34
DarthFrogIndephysis: No.  I've been following along.20:34
[|Liam|]Not really sure how to explain it, I've downloaded Frostwire which came as a Debian file and i want to use it.20:35
helpthisnoobiethanx DarthFrog20:35
DarthFrog[|Liam|]: If you want to disassemble a deb file, "ar -x <deb file>" will do it.20:35
[|Liam|]Okay thanks20:35
DarthFrog[|Liam|]: Don't do that!!!! :-)20:36
DarthFrogIt won't help you.20:36
[|Liam|]I know20:36
[|Liam|]lol20:36
[|Liam|]im dling gdebi atm20:36
[|Liam|]Just i had the idea you didn't understand my question so gave up <.<20:36
DarthFrogTo manually install a DEB file: sudo dpkg -i <debfile name>20:36
[|Liam|]Okay, for the debfile name do i include the extension?20:36
DarthFrog[|Liam|]: No, I understood.  I'm just an .... well, my wife has choice words. :-)20:37
[|Liam|]Lol20:37
DarthFrogI think so.  Try it and see.20:37
DarthFrogBut if the DEB has dependencies, it won't install.20:38
DarthFrogYou'd have to track down those dependencies your self.20:38
[|Liam|]dpkg: error processing LimeWireLinux (--install):20:40
[|Liam|] cannot access archive: No such file or directory20:40
[|Liam|]Errors were encountered while processing:20:40
[|Liam|] LimeWireLinux20:40
[|Liam|]I think i need to inc the extension :o20:40
[|Liam|]it's telling me no such file/directory20:40
DarthFrogYou do know that aMule is available?  sudo apt-cache search amule20:41
DarthFrogfor dpkg, you need to include the whole filename.  Including the path, if necessary.20:42
[|Liam|]Amule is easier in other words?20:43
DarthFroghttp://www.gnutellaforums.com/general-linux-support/39850-how-install-limewire-ubuntu-debian.html20:43
[|Liam|]lol ive been using this >.< - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingSoftware#deb20:43
DarthFrogamule is available through the Ubuntu repositories.20:44
DarthFrogWhat happens if you simply double-click on the filename?20:44
[|Liam|]It'll ask me what to open it with20:45
DarthFrog[|Liam|]: No private messages, please.  If you have a lot of output, use pastebin.20:45
DarthFrog!pastbin20:45
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about pastbin20:45
[|Liam|]oh sorry.20:45
DarthFrog!pastebin20:45
ubottupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)20:45
[|Liam|]I'll paste it into that then20:46
[|Liam|]http://paste.ubuntu.com/58944/20:46
[|Liam|]There20:46
DarthFrogWell, you could use Adept to install amule.  That's the easiest way to go.20:47
CydeDid KDE 4.1 finally hit Ubuntu mainline?20:47
CydeI just ran Adept and pretty much every KDE package is getting an upgrade.20:48
DarthFrogCyDe: it's the default in Intrepid.20:48
CydeIs Intrepid out now?20:48
DarthFrogNot yet.  Beta 2.20:48
DarthFrogBut it works fine for me. :-)20:48
CydeI've been running KDE 4.1 off the ppa launchpad for 2 months now but it looks like KDE 4.1 finally hit the mainline repos?20:48
DarthFrogDon't know.20:48
[|Liam|]DarthFrog: I'm instulling Amule via Sudo anyway20:49
DarthFrog[|Liam|]: Feel the power, Luke! :-)20:49
* DarthFrog always encourages folks to learn to work at the command line. It's where you really have control over your machine. Point 'n drool is fine for somethings but not sysadmining, IMHO.20:50
DarthFrogTrue knowledge and understanging is only to be found at the command line.20:51
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botashackola20:52
botashackor hello20:52
[|Liam|]Hmm20:52
ActionParsnipyo yo yo20:52
[|Liam|]DarthFrog: are you even human?20:52
[|Liam|]lol20:52
[|Liam|]I smell bot! :p20:52
DarthFrogMoi?  Hmm, two arms, two legs and two wings last I checked.20:53
DarthFrogOops, scratch the wings. :-)20:53
[|Liam|]LOL20:53
ActionParsnipwings would be sweet20:53
[|Liam|]Hey ActionParsnip20:53
ActionParsnipwerd up20:53
[|Liam|]Tbh DarthFrog only I would go and dl Amule then be unable to find it -.-20:54
DarthFrog?20:54
ActionParsnipdoes anyone heer know of a frets on fire irc chanel / server??20:54
[|Liam|]I just installed Amule via Sudo and now i cant find it.20:54
JP-sNL3:-)20:54
botashackgod bye..20:54
botashacksee later.20:54
DarthFrogNope.  Personally, I'd look at their web site to see if they list an IRC channel in their support options.20:55
DarthFrog[|Liam|]: the command is amule.20:55
[|Liam|]I have it installed :o20:55
[|Liam|]Now wut20:55
DarthFrogDid you install the gui apps?20:55
ActionParsnip[|Liam|]: in terminal type amulae &20:55
ActionParsnipyou know what i meant20:56
[|Liam|]actually i failed quite badly20:56
DarthFrog[|Liam|]: try this.  type amule (no space at the end of the word) and  hit  the TAB key.20:56
[|Liam|]got it20:56
[|Liam|]Where to from here, DarthFrog?20:58
DarthFrogHit enter. :-)20:58
[|Liam|]No i have Amule open20:58
[|Liam|]now what lol20:58
ActionParsnip[|Liam|]: id websearch what amule is and how it works20:59
[|Liam|]All this work to install Limewire >_>21:00
hadi57hi all, i have atheros wlan, it shows in the hardware drivers, but not working, anone can help me please?21:00
[|Liam|]So DarthFrog I now have Amule open, how is this going to help me install a deb file lol >.<21:01
ActionParsnip!limewire | [|Liam|]21:02
ubottu[|Liam|]: limewire is a popular P2P client running on the Gnutella network. To get it running, install !Java first, then download Limewire from http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and finally run runLime.sh. Consider !FrostWire as an alternative.21:02
[|Liam|]o rly21:02
[|Liam|]my head is spinning o_O21:02
ActionParsnip!frostwire | [|Liam|]21:02
ubottu[|Liam|]: frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire21:02
[|Liam|]yeah i dled em both and ended up with Debian files lol21:02
ActionParsnip[|Liam|]: try doing resarch you will find OSS equivelants21:02
ActionParsnipor compile frostwire21:03
[|Liam|]I'm new to this :\21:03
[|Liam|]WOO21:04
[|Liam|]THERE WE GO21:04
ActionParsnip[|Liam|]: only one way to try21:04
[|Liam|]ActionParsnip: I think I just failed more than the word fail itself.21:04
[|Liam|]i double click runlime.sh and  it opened immediately :$21:04
slow-motionn821:04
[|Liam|]When i tried doing that an hour ago it didnt... really this is just silly.21:05
[|Liam|]Im making sure no1 un-installs Kubuntu from my computer ever again.21:05
ActionParsnip[|Liam|]: if yuo use the konsole more things tend to get easier21:05
[|Liam|]Yeah Konsole ftw :o21:05
* DarthFrog agrees with ActionParsnip21:11
* ActionParsnip agrees with me too21:13
JackWintercan anyone please tell me where to go to find a solution for a problem with crackling sound using sdl under hardy ?  descent3 for linux21:19
ActionParsnipJackWinter: what if you tunr all software volumes down and crank your speakers?21:20
JackWinterActionParsnip: what should that accomplish ?21:20
ActionParsnipJackWinter: having software volume at full makes sounds sound nasty21:21
ActionParsnipif you drop it it may clear, then pull the amp up to make up for the lack of software volume21:21
JackWinterso far sound is perfect in all i've tried.  desktop, amarok, kaffeine, flash plugin, even run a windows audio program using wineasio and jack on a 2:nd soundcard..21:22
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JackWinterActionParsnip: that isn't the problem.  it's really a crackling not distortion and googling a few hours seem to point a little in the ubuntu/alsa direction.  possibly to libdsl...21:24
oo0how to install a .bin file?21:24
DarthFrog oo0 What's the name of the file?21:24
oo0GoogleEarthLinux.bin21:25
DarthFrogDid you download it?  Google Earth is available in the Medibuntu repository.21:25
oo0??? medibunutu?21:26
DarthFrog!medibuntu21:26
ubottumedibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org21:26
DarthFrogMedibuntu = (Multimedia, Entertainment & Distractions In Ubuntu21:26
DarthFrogoo0: Get Medibuntu set up.  You'll be doing yourself a favour.21:27
ActionParsnipoo0: chmod u+x ./GoogleEarthLinux.bin; ./GoogleEarthLinux.bin21:27
DarthFrogor simply "sudo sh ./GoogleEarthLinux.bin"21:28
ActionParsnipDarthFrog: mine makes sure its executable ;)21:29
ActionParsnipDarthFrog: and it needs to be installed as user, not sudo21:29
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DarthFrogReally?  Strange.  Still, getting it from medibuntu is preferable.21:29
bleakedso i really don't like kde4, how it works, looks, etc.. BIG kde3 fan, and one who desires fresh software.. so do I suffer with kde4, move to gnome, or is there a way to keep kde3 and still get other updates meant for ibex?21:30
ActionParsnipbleaked: just logout and change session to kde321:30
DarthFrogbleaked:  KDE 4 is the future and in Intrepid, the present.  KDE 3 will gradually be abandoned, just like KDE 2 was.21:32
unitypunkhey..21:32
unitypunkanyone know where wubi installs to?21:32
Tm_Tunitypunk: to Windows partition21:32
unitypunkwhere on it though21:32
Tm_Tno idea21:32
Tm_Tit makes virtual partition, that means there's some one file21:33
DarthFrogunitypunk:  Time to exercise your google-fu. )21:33
unitypunkyeah21:33
unitypunklol21:33
cilkaybleaked: So why go to Intrepid then? Hardy will be supported for years.21:33
oo0omg how to install it?21:34
DarthFrogcilkay: Kubuntu Hardy is not an LTS release.  18 months at best.21:34
cilkayIt isn't?21:34
cilkayI thought all Hardy was.21:34
DarthFrogNope.  Ubuntu Hardy is but not Kubuntu.21:34
cilkayWhether it's "years" or 18 months, who cares? In 18 months, I expect that KDE 4 will be immensely better.21:34
DarthFrogThey don't want to be committed to supporting KDE3 when they want to move to KDE 4.21:35
DarthFrogKDE 4.0 was intended to be a developer's release, not a general user release.21:36
DarthFrogbleaked: Have you tried KDE 4.1.2?  I really like it.21:36
DarthFrogI like where KDE is going.21:36
cilkayI *love* where KDE is going.21:36
jussi01!ot21:36
ubottu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!21:36
unitypunk!wubi21:37
ubottuWubi is an Ubuntu installer for Windows users that allows you to install and uninstall Ubuntu like a Windows application, in a simple and safe way. http://wubi-installer.org/support.php for troubleshooting. Please file bugs at http://launchpad.net/wubi/+filebug.21:37
unitypunkgah21:37
unitypunkDarthFrog, its a virtual partition.21:37
unitypunkhow would i add files to that..21:37
* ActionParsnip likes kde but not kwin21:38
DarthFrogunitypunk: No idea, other than when you're booted into it.21:39
bleakedDarthFrog: it's too big and bubbly.. and i miss qtcurve21:39
unitypunkhmm21:39
freaky_ti miss the mp3 encoding codex in intrepid i can't play mp3s since a few days21:40
DarthFrogActionParsnip: You know that emerald is available with compiz?  You don't have to use Kwin.  And Kwin in KDE 4.1.2 has lots of compiz-like crunchy goodness.21:40
ActionParsnipDarthFrog: i use fluxbox, kicks the ass off everything21:40
DarthFrog!lame21:40
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about lame21:40
DarthFrog!mp321:40
ubottuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats21:40
freaky_twhat is a good ftp client for kubuntu?21:41
cilkayncftp21:41
jussi01konqueror21:41
ActionParsnipfreaky_t: kftp21:42
ActionParsnipfreaky_t: filezilla21:42
freaky_till try kftp21:42
freaky_tthank you21:42
DarthFrogfreaky_t: Enable the Medibuntu repository and "apt-cache search mp3 | less"  Fill yer boots.21:43
freaky_tDarthFrog: ok ill try thank you21:43
chfwiggumHelllloooo Saint Loouiis!21:46
jarleBy keeping the Control key (I think) pressed too long I somehow disabled the keyboard, and all I got was a flashing screen when pressing a key, any idea what I did wrong?21:47
ActionParsnipjarle: never heard of that one21:48
DarthFrogHmm.  Sounds like an assissted keys problem.21:48
DarthFrogjarle: You could always try pressing CTL-ALT-Backspace when that happens.  It'll kill X and bring you back to a login screen.  Any open work will be lost, though.21:49
DarthFrogProbably lost.21:50
jarleIt all happened while doing some Ctrl and Cltr+Shift key combinations21:50
DarthFrogYou may have confused your poor machine. :-)21:51
jarleDarthFrog: no key-combinations worked, not even Ctrl-Alt-Backspace21:51
chfwiggumjarle: i tried that with holding ctrl down-but no luck here either21:51
JackWinteranyone know a good irc channel for linux gamers ?21:51
jarleI had to use my mouse to restart X...21:51
chfwiggum#ps321:51
jarlenot sure if I am able to reproduce it though..21:52
JackWinterunder kde is there a hotkey to switch from a fullscreen application to the desktop ?21:53
wissemany wan for cccam web server21:54
chfwiggumJackWinter: dont think so-but cant u create a shortcut?21:54
wissemi want to crfeat cccam server21:55
wissemhi all21:55
Nasjhi21:55
JackWinterchfwiggum: how do you mean ?  i'd prefer to run it fullscreen, but be able to switch to the desktop without exiting my game :)21:57
DarthFrogJackWinter: You could try pressing a Ctl-Function key to switch virtual desktops.21:58
chfwiggumJackWinter: aint there a thing called key-shortcuts in systemsettings where u can specify individual kde keyboard shortcuts?21:59
JackWinterDarthFrog: i did, didn't work.  the only way out when the game crashed was either ctrl-alt-bkspc or ctrl-alt-f? to another terminal.  was hoping for a better keystroke :)22:00
ActionParsnip!keyboard | JackWinter22:00
ubottuJackWinter: To switch your keyboard layout on GNOME: System -> Preferences -> Keyboard (GNOME) - KDE: K -> System Settings -> Regional & Language -> Keyboard Layout (KDE) - Xfce: see https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/xubuntu/desktopguide/C/switch-keyboard-layout.html - See also !Shortcuts22:00
estudiantehia!22:00
ActionParsnip!shortcuts22:00
ubottukeyboard shortcuts can be set in K -> System Settings -> Keyboard & Mouse. Try also "Input Actions" in KControl. If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try the 'keytouch' package, explained at https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KDEMultimediaKeys - See !Keyboard for changing layouts22:00
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DarthFrogOK, my google-fu seems to be weak.  Does anyone know how to force Google to show results that include a specific keyword?  Just putting "+linux" still brings up a gazillion hits that don't include Linux.22:02
DarthFrogWell, it turns out that the first hit had the info I needed. :-)  Still, it's a nuisance.  And Advanced Search was no help.22:04
asktobyIf I install Kubuntu 8.10 beta desktop today, and let Adept do it's thing, come release day my system will automatically change from Beta to the final release of Intrepid, right?22:06
chfwiggumDarthFrog: maybe u want to try +"linux" instead of "+linux"22:06
DarthFrogchfwiggum: Same results.  Thanks anyway.22:06
DarthFrogasktoby: Yep.22:09
DarthFrogasktoby: If you do a dist-upgrade, that is.22:10
asktobyDarthFrog: Thanks. What's the difference between the kubuntu-8.10-beta-desktop-i386.iso (653MB) and kubuntu-8.10-beta-dvd-i386.iso (3.4G)?22:12
DexterFDarthFrog: about the de-l10n for gimp: what you told me earlier didn't work. gimp is still english.22:13
DarthFrogDexterF: I've never played around with other languages.  I'm one of the unfortunates who only speak English (though the Canadian school system tried to teach me French).  At a guess, I would think that if you changed your system language to German, I would expect that you'd see the GIMP use German.22:15
DexterFDarthFrog: sys lang actually is german. well, I'll inquire the mailing list22:15
DarthFrogasktoby: The amount of software on the disk.  The basic system will be the same, whether you install from DVD or CD.22:15
DarthFrogDexterF: Sorry I couldn't help you.  If you find out, I'd like to hear how to do it (so I could give correct advice to the next person).22:16
DexterFone for the community. highly appreciated. channel regular?22:17
DarthFrogOff and on. :-)22:17
cilkayDexterF: What does "locale" report?22:18
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DexterFcilkay: almost everything is de_DE.UTF8, one entry differs tho: LANGUAGE=de_DE:de:en_GB:en22:19
cilkayDexterF: My default locale is en_CA.UTF-8. I have additional language packs installed for French, Spanish, and Mandarin. Everything is en_CA.UTF-8 for me for "locale".22:22
DexterFthis is odd... I just checked the gThumb image viewerm gtk2.... english, too... Sonata is german, but it's written in pyGTK, no clue if that mackes much of a difference22:22
DexterF*makes22:23
DexterFvmware: english (gtk2 interface)22:23
cilkayDexterF: How are you switching the default language?22:26
DexterFcilkay: I don't. I'm fine with german being default.22:27
cilkayOh, and you want GIMP to be in German?22:27
DexterFcilkay: exactly22:30
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cilkayDexterF: I find changing the default locale to be very confusing in the "Regional & Language Settings" control panel. The expected behaviour is only loosely correlated to the actual behaviour, it seems.22:32
cilkayI changed it to French (France).22:32
DexterFhow do you mean?22:32
cilkay... and when I started GIMP, it was all in English.22:32
cilkayKDE apps however were all in French.22:32
DarthFrogHmm, I wonder if you have to do it in GNOME, as GIMP is a GNOME app?22:33
cilkayThat would be extremely lame.22:33
DexterFwouldnt rule it out22:33
DarthFrogAgreed. Doesn't make it wrong, though. :-)22:33
DexterFsome gconf thing22:33
DexterFquestion is how to d that in *K*ubuntu22:34
* cilkay is getting a sinking feeling that multi-language support might torpedo acceptance of Kubuntu in the school for which he's been spending ridiculous amounts of time prepping an automated install22:35
DarthFrogI had a quick scan of gconfeditor and didn't see anything about setting the language to be used.22:37
blodyxif my sound is broken when i play .avi... what to do?22:45
crimsunblodyx: what application are you using to play .avi?22:47
crimsunblodyx: and, is the "broken sound" reproducible in all programs?22:47
DexterFblodyx: and what means "broken"? no sound at all?22:54
werenerdhowdy all. I personally have not had good experiences with Kubuntu, but I love the ease of debian and KDE. Is there another KDE+Debian distro that you guys have tried?22:55
lamurhey guys how are you guys doing? i have a question how can i open iso files on ubuntu22:55
lamur?22:55
werenerdlamur: you should be able to use K3B to burn them to disc22:56
out_of_blue_skyaddon22:56
DexterFlamur: open like access the file system within?22:57
blodyxDexterF : it works fine for everything ellse22:57
blodyxbroken means it comes and goes22:57
DexterFblodyx: which player?22:57
blodyxin a eaven intarvall22:57
blodyxall22:57
blodyxbuildin things22:57
DexterFblodyx: so its just this file?22:58
blodyxno all .avi22:58
lamuryes open like acces the file within doxterf22:58
blodyxmostly from digital cameras...22:58
DexterFblodyx: that's odd, since avi is only a container and can hold a variety of file formats like divx, xvid, mpeg and whatnot22:58
werenerdlamur: you should just mount the ISO file and browse that way22:58
blodyxyes it may not be all avi but all the broken one was22:59
DexterFlamur: sudo mount -o loop,rw /pathtoiso /pathtosomemountpoint22:59
lamurwerend how do i moun it22:59
lamur?22:59
werenerdlamur: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/mount-and-unmout-iso-images-without-burning-them.html22:59
DexterFlamur: just create a mount point to your liking.22:59
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DexterFwerenerd: heh. after years of slackware one simply isn't used to having such info at a mouse click :)23:00
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werenerdDexterF: lol, no I wouldn't imagine so23:00
werenerdlamur: http://hacktivision.com/index.php/2008/02/24/how-to-mount-iso-images-in-ubuntu-the-ea?blog=223:00
Guest14345hlaaa#23:00
werenerdlamur: that is easier instructions23:00
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blodyxa package with all codecs or something would be good...23:01
DexterFblodyx: w32codecs installed?23:01
blodyxi think so23:02
DexterFwerenerd: I disagree with this being easier than sudo mount -o loop,rw /pathtoiso /pathtosomemountpoint. it's more mouseriderish and doesn't invole much of a command line interface.23:02
DexterFbloodboy: well... then perhaps your camera uses some odd file type. I'd google around what the cam actually uses, ensure it's only files from that cam and perhaps talk to the.. xine or mplayer mailing list.23:03
werenerdDexterF: the command line can be very intimidating. While you and I may understand that, I don't know lamur's level of expertise23:04
werenerdDexterF: I thought that page was pretty simple and a GUI takes away a lot of the fear for newer people23:04
DexterFwerenerd: yes, it can. but it's poooowerful :)23:05
DexterFand fast23:05
werenerdaye23:05
werenerdthat it is23:05
DexterFpeople should understand that noone here will attempt to coax them into erasing their harddrives and give it a shot23:05
willluongoHello, I am having a strange problem with xorg... I have a single user (main user) on my Kubuntu 8.04 box that resets the resolution to 800x600 everytime I log in. Every other user maintains correct resolution of 1280x1024. Any ideas?23:05
DexterFI have a bit of a fear linux will become just another mouse hustler OS someday replacing the computer literate with some zombie user23:06
werenerdDexterF: pfft! Never23:06
DexterF(no offense lamur :) )23:06
DexterFwerenerd: well, surely not with debian and gentoo around... wonder what these guys would do if they hadn't something to tinker with... :)23:07
DexterFthen again I have to admit sometimes I'd really like somthing like daemon tools for kde... rightclick, select mount point, choose image, bam. or a context menu for konqueror "mount this iso to /mnt/iso[1234]"23:08
werenerdDexterF: speaking of KDE,  Is there another KDE+Debian distro that you have tried?23:09
DexterFwerenerd: well - debian23:09
lamuri am a eginer23:09
lamursorry i am a beginner23:10
DexterFlamur: no problem23:10
werenerdDexterF: you have tried debian proprer? I was curious, does it come with any of the nice config tools like Kubuntu?23:11
DexterFbetter a linux newbie than a windows wizard ;)23:11
werenerdI like GUI's too23:11
DexterFwerenerd: "proprer"?23:11
lamurbut can you help me with another command or maybe a aplication23:12
willluongowerenerd: By default debian comes with gnome, but you can just install kde with aptitude or apt-get or adept or... ;)23:12
werenerdDexterF: not a deviation or a vanilla install23:12
willluongoI run debian on every thing except this machine23:12
DexterFwerenerd: well, debian etch - 4.0. plus some backports perhaps.23:12
werenerdwillluongo: do you get the option during install to pick GNOME or KDE?23:12
willluongowerenerd: Not with the regular installer23:13
lamurlike you guys sad the command is a little bit  to strong i do know how to do it in a proper way23:13
DexterFmy other two boxes (multimedia machine and file server) run debian 4.0 at the moment23:13
DexterFthere's actually 3 CD images: one standard (gnome), and one each for kde and xfce23:13
werenerdwillluongo: crap. You say regular installer, what are the others?23:13
DexterFlike with [kx]ubuntu23:13
werenerdDexterF: oh, well that works then23:13
willluongowerenerd: see DexterF's above23:13
DexterFwillluongo: isn't the graphical installer default by now...?23:14
willluongoDexterF: nope23:14
willluongoDexterF: Well, ansi graphics yes, like ubuntu's? no lol23:14
werenerdwillluongo: does it have the nice config tools like Ubuntu variants? I like the control center23:14
DexterFodd. well, after all, you just apt-get your fav apps after install anyway and let the deps handle the rest.23:15
DexterFwerenerd: no, the macosx cc clone is a kubuntu-only thing23:15
werenerdDexterF: damn23:15
DexterFI'm surprised they hadn't Jobs yelling at them by now, this guy usually id good for hissy fits...23:15
werenerdDexterF: but it can be installed on Debian since Ubuntu is a derivative, right?23:16
DexterFuh23:16
DexterFi.. wopuldn't wanna try23:16
willluongowerenerd: no, the repos don't work like that23:16
werenerdDAMN23:16
DexterFyou'd need to tinker the kubuntu kdebase code into debian23:16
willluongowerenerd: it would theoretically be possible, but you'd have to modify it pretty heavily. What would the benefit be?23:16
werenerdhave you guys tried to trim the fat in Kubuntu? There is so much I do not want in it23:17
werenerdbut if you try to remove it, it would remove a bunch of other crap that I do want23:17
willluongoDexterF: I'll just wait another couple of seconds every time he asks a question and then say "what DexterF said!" ;)23:17
werenerdwillluongo: LOL23:17
lamurwho will help me with my problem23:18
willluongowerenerd: How much fat are you looking to trim off? i.e., what are you trying to remove?23:18
willluongolamur: What is your problem?23:18
willluongowerenerd: http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/4.0_r4a/i386/iso-cd/debian-40r4a-i386-kde-CD-1.iso23:19
lamuri cant watch trainsignal video's23:19
DexterFlamur: train...what?23:20
DexterFwillluongo: ;)23:20
willluongoDexterF: I think they are training videos23:20
willluongolamur: Are they flash? Do they require windows?23:20
werenerdwillluongo: just a bunch of the default apps that I never use. Personally, I hate dolphin with a passion23:20
DexterFwerenerd: so what's the big deal? I need the controlcenter maybe... once in 3 months. it's pretty, yeah. so? the ordinary kcontrol gets the job done. if that was all I had to part with on another distro that wouldn't stop me23:21
werenerda file manager that doesn't show all the column width infuriates me23:21
werenerdkcontrol? Isn't that what I asked about earlier?23:21
willluongowerenerd: we thought you meant system settings23:22
willluongoor at least I did23:22
willluongonot to speak for DexterF23:22
DexterFwerenerd: dolphin will need to evolve... I will keep konq as my FM for now and as it looks for quite a while even, tho dolphin has some neat features I like23:22
DexterFkcontrol = good old kde control center as in any distro23:22
DexterF"system settings" = fancy OSX ripoff23:23
werenerdnow you guys have me wondering what you were referencing. Have I been missing out on something for the past 2 years in K/Ubuntu?23:23
werenerdDexterF: where is that?23:23
DexterFuh.. in KMenu, the first entry above the "actions" divider... "system settings" if you're locale is english, I believe...23:24
DarkSmokehello guys23:24
DarkSmokewhat is exacly "mono" ? and can it run windows .NET appliactions in linux ?23:25
werenerdI must have removed it, I don't have anything above Actions except WINE23:25
werenerdDexterF: maybe if I reset my KDE Menu it would be there23:25
willluongobrb23:26
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DexterFwerenerd: run "systemsettings" from a command line23:26
werenerdooohh yeah.... now I remember that. yeah I removed the menu option because I hated it23:27
werenerdDexterF: lol, yeah I agree with you on that one. OSX ripoff23:27
DexterFDarkSmoke: well.... mono is a code VM much like Java, and it's supposed to interpret programs written in C#. from what I've been able to gather interoperability between .NET and Mono however is much like... um. no appropriate comparison at hand :D23:27
werenerdbeen so long since I saw that I forgot about it23:27
DexterFwerenerd: well, the other is kcontrol. that's how the KDE peeps released it and how it is in pretty much any distro... including debian.23:28
serenityhi23:28
serenitydoes anyone of you know, if the displayport technology is already included into xorg?23:28
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werenerdDexterF: if I can get the kcontrol in debian, I may just go ahead and try it. I was afraid I was going to have to use the CLI for everything. as powerfull as it is, I hate typing all that crap out23:29
kbuntu-danexi have an intel core 2 duo laptop. does anyone know if i should download the 64 version of kubuntu?23:29
DexterFDarkSmoke: there's a certain intersection of commands that work in both, but as I grokked it it's the usual "we labeled it open platform interoperability but somehow we achieve that if you wanna use it you have to stick to US"-MS-thing23:29
DexterFso screw it. code it in java :)23:30
werenerdkbuntu-danex: "should" you? depends. What are you going to be doing on the laptop?23:30
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kbuntu-danexwork23:30
kbuntu-danexdaily use23:30
serenitykbuntu-danex: so, there is no need for23:30
kbuntu-danexmy kestion is if intel core 2 duo is a 64 arkitecture23:30
werenerdare you going to be running a 64 bit application that requires the 64 bit version?23:31
DexterFwerenerd: last time I confed kde stuff at the cli was... pff... never? :D kcontrol is a fixed part of kde23:31
werenerdkbuntu-danex: oh, my mistake23:31
serenityif your are handling with large amounts of RAM, or doing stuff with many IOs then maybe23:31
DexterFkbuntu-danex: depends on the series. E21xx - rather not. E5xxx and above - guess so23:31
werenerdkbuntu-danex: just download the 32 bit version, it will work23:31
DexterFE7xxx and E8xxx for sure23:31
kbuntu-danexyes23:31
serenity<<< t725023:31
werenerdif you are going to use WIne, you don't want to use a 64 bit version23:32
DexterFwerenerd: how's that?23:32
werenerdDexterF: I don't believe the current verison of WINE plays well with 64 bit linux23:32
kbuntu-danexwerenerd: ok, why is that?23:32
kbuntu-danexok ok ;)23:33
werenerdit can be done, but it is not easy23:33
DexterFI'm running 64b right now... only casualty was intel indeo iv50 video.23:33
DexterFso far that is23:33
serenity64bit-wine? Here's your visa for the land of pain23:33
DexterFhaven't done much with wine lately but I don't see why it wouldn't work23:34
DexterFserenity: tell me please23:34
werenerdDexterF: I could not run a few Windows apps when I had 6.10 64 bit23:34
werenerdserenity: lol, you too huh?23:34
serenitywerenerd: yipp23:34
kbuntu-danexmy doubt was if my laptop arkitect was a 32 bit or a 64 bit. I have an Asus Z53Sseries T750023:35
werenerdtruth be told, there is not *that* much of a performance difference IMO23:35
werenerdkbuntu-danex: what do you have installed as your OS now on that laptop?23:35
kbuntu-danexit is a 64 right? im very noob... :S23:35
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serenityDexterF: wine is a "translator" for win32 to linux 32. In c64 mode it has to manage handling 64bit code23:35
kbuntu-danexXp and Ubuntu23:36
kbuntu-danex32 bit ubuntu23:36
serenityforget the c ;)23:36
DexterFserenity: it's not. it's a reimplementation of the win32 api. as such if compiled under a 64b host it should run w32 code all the same23:36
kbuntu-danexbut if my laptop is a 64 bit then to take full advantage of the machine i sould install 64 right?23:36
DarkSmokeDexterF: but i was trying to wine a prog and it told me to install the MS version of mono... when i installed it on windows it didn't ask for mono23:37
werenerdkbuntu-danex: not necessarily23:37
nvidiawill kubuntu support an nvidia card thats pci-express?, my onboard card is ati & kubuntu never reads it right = (  moniter config is always the wrong resolution!23:37
DarkSmokenvidia: yes kubuntu supports pci-express23:38
DexterFDarkSmoke: beyong me, #mono perhaps?23:38
kbuntu-danexok, many thanks people23:38
nvidiagreat thz tons = )23:38
DarkSmokeim using nvidia geforce 8400 which is pci-e x1623:38
werenerdkbuntu-danex: the only way to take full advantage of it is to have a 64 bit OS & 64bit application. Plus, you *could* have more than 4gb of RAM which is part of the benefit of a 64 bit OS. Greater memory allocation23:38
DexterFkbuntu-danex: depends oif what "full advantage" means to you. you will be able to address 4gig+ mem and have some minor speedup due to arch optimizations23:39
werenerdDexterF: Ha! Beat you to it23:39
DexterFwerenerd: ...?23:39
nvidiahmm ok i was going for the 6600 with 512 ddr, hope its good?23:39
DexterFnvidia: it will work23:40
kbuntu-danexok23:40
DexterF"good" is a question of perspective. if you wanna play Crysis - not good. if "google earth" is what warms your heart - yeah, good.23:40
nvidiathx good, chep card 40$ but for 512 mb should at least have good graphics but not as fast as yours = )23:41
werenerdDexterF: I was just saying I said the same thing as you. like you were doing with willluongo23:41
werenerdnvidia: I have 6600 PCI-E, does everything I need just fine. I can play any game in the repo's at my monitor max rez no problem23:42
DexterFi just installed my fav guitar tuner in wine. works ok. deaf as usual because I guess I need to tell it about the sound dev somehow, but works23:43
DexterFok, that's just a aguitar tuner, given23:43
kbuntu-danexok thankx a lot people. Last Question:  but my machine supports 64 bit ubuntu, right? (intel core 2 duo / Asus T7500 Z53S)23:44
kbuntu-danexthe amd64 download23:44
nvidiakewl, im stepping up from the geforce 5500 256md running on 4x not proper 8x, still I could get a solid 90 fps playing tremulous = )23:44
DexterFkbuntu-danex: well, the only c2d I know of which are not 64b should be the low budget E21xx series. are you running on that machine now? with linux?23:46
willluongo_afkwerenerd kbuntu-danex wine works fine for me I am running 64 bit 8.04 now... sorry it is a day late and a dollar short... lol23:47
DexterFjust burn the iso to a RW blank, if it fails it won't even boot23:47
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legoHow can I change my colors in Linux?  I am trying to setup 16bit colors.23:47
legofor a game in Wine.23:47
DexterFlego: why would you wanna........ ah23:47
DexterFlego: treid running it just like that at current depth?23:48
legoYeah and it complains about needing 16bit colors and 1024x768 or 1280x1024 resolution.23:48
kbuntu-danexDesterF: i dont know if is E21xx series23:49
DexterFno clue really, sorry. what game, out of curiosity?23:49
legoI have an ATI Rage 128,23:49
kbuntu-danexi have an asus t750023:49
legoLego Loco23:49
kbuntu-danexbut i dont think this was low budget23:49
kbuntu-danexit cost me around 1000 euros a aprox one year ago23:50
willluongokbuntu-danex: You are probably best off running 32, unless you have more than 4GB of RAM you want to use all on one app23:50
kbuntu-danexall right23:52
kbuntu-danex;)23:52
DexterFlego: you could change the default color depth of course in /etc/X11/xorg.conf... but that would affect the whole system of course23:52
kbuntu-danexthanks kubuntu people :D23:52
DexterFyw23:52
kbuntu-danexgood night to all23:52
legoOkay.23:53
legoI will try some of my other Lego games.23:53
DexterFtz. I can't see from the proc cpu flags if my chip is 64b. (which I know, wanted to see if there's a flag)23:53
DexterFlego: i used to like *real* lego ;)23:53
willluongoWell I've got to take off I'll be back again23:54
willluongolol23:54
willluongohave a good night23:54
legoI have some Lego Minifigs here.  Recently bought the Lego Indiana stuff.23:54
DexterFlego: do they have nazi symbols? :D23:54
legoNo.23:54
DexterFdamn :D23:54
legolol23:55
DexterFalright, I'll run for the sheets now myself. good night all, enjoyable chat.23:55
youseflego?23:55
legoYes?23:55
yousefnvrmd23:55
legorofl23:56
legoI know, odd nickname.23:56
legolol23:56
youseflol23:56
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MinifigIs that better?  rofl23:56
werenerdOK, I am off to the hardware store. Thanks for the help dex and will23:56
yousefwuts a minifig23:56
MinifigAsk Wikipedia.  lolMinifigures are small, plastic figural toys produced by Danish toy manufacturer Lego, which are customarily sold with Lego sets, as characters intended to populate modular Lego environments. Although many Lego sets include minifigures, Lego also sells collections of minifigures separate from other sets. They are also referred to as as minifigs, figs or simply Lego people. Minifigures are collected by both children and23:57
Minifigadults, sometimes independently of Lego bricks themselves.23:57
zabbadappname of widget to show cpu load and/or temperature in the systray of kde4?23:58
stdinerm, we do have an off topic channel: #kubuntu-offtopic23:58
yousefi c23:58
Minifigoops.  I apologize.23:58
yousefksysguard?23:58
MinifigBe back soon.23:59

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