[07:05] <Serway> Hey guys, why won't dust work on my computer? i have the latest murrine svn, but it fails to decorate the windows on dust
[09:22] <rsc-> hey guys.
[09:23] <rsc-> whats crackin'?
[09:57] <kwwii> rsc-: hey man
[09:58] <kwwii> do you have a pic with just the bg (no ibex) of the wallpaper we included in intrepid?
[10:03] <rsc-> maybe
[10:03] <rsc-> i'll get it to you when i can
[10:03] <savvas> haha, I expected the line "what's in it for me?" after maybe :)
[10:03] <savvas> too much movies I suppose:P
[10:04] <rsc-> no need, I'm sure he'll have some smartass retort to that anyway :b
[14:34] <kwwii> njpatel: do you know how to set a panel bg in a gtk theme?
[14:34] <njpatel> kwwii: bg colour or pixmap?
[14:35] <kwwii> njpatel: pixmap
[14:35] <kwwii> I am doing it in gconf now and apparently you can set it in gtk
[14:35] <kwwii> gtkrc
[14:35] <kwwii> but I cannot find any decent info on how to do that
[14:35] <njpatel> kwwii: not off by hand, no. but I know some themes do it gnome-look
[14:35] <njpatel> oh you mean the proper way of setting it?
[14:36] <njpatel> I have no idea, I wanted to find out for unr, but never got round to it
[14:36] <kwwii> well, I am going to have to figure out how
[14:36] <kwwii> as the current gconf stuff does not allow you to change it
[14:36] <njpatel> the only thing I can think of is that it must be a style properly of the panel, so reading the source might help
[14:37] <kwwii> I wish I knew which theme on gnome-look had a panel bg, I could just look there
[14:38] <njpatel> kwwii: i think those just use the pixmap engine or something like that. gnome-panel itself doesn't know about the pixmaps (i.e. in it's settings dialog)
[14:38] <kwwii> njpatel: I'll just browse gnome-look until I find a theme that already does it :-)
[14:40] <njpatel> http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Fibra+de+Carbono+Dark-Blue?content=90189 is ugly but themes the panel with a pixmap
[14:41] <kwwii> ahha, I figured it out
[14:41] <kwwii> wow, you can really set a lot of stuff for the panel
[14:49] <zniavre> panel is the most difficult to modify for me
[15:20] <Cimi> kwwii, but try to open the about menu after setting the pixmap
[15:27] <kwwii> Cimi: yeah, I have seen that before
[15:28]  * kwwii takes a break...bbl
[19:03] <Nece228> hey everybody!
[19:03] <Cimi> hi Sir
[19:04] <Nece228> lol, now I'm sir =)
[19:06] <Nece228> Cimi: i dont understand, gnome 3.0 will be actually 2.30, but it should have gtk3, but its in second generation beacause of 2.xx
[19:07] <Nece228> that confuses me
[19:07] <Nece228> :S
[19:07] <Cimi> yeah 3.0 will be 2.30
[19:08] <Cimi> 3.0 won't be a rewrite
[19:08] <Cimi> gtk+ 3.0 won't be a rewrite too
[19:08] <Nece228> umm
[19:09] <Nece228> so gtk 3 will not be like kde3 and kde4
[19:09] <Cimi> no
[19:09] <Nece228> oh, current gnome has got gtk 2.14
[19:10] <Cimi> gtk+ 2.x already have the features qt 4.x has
[19:10] <Nece228> so it will be tweaked gtk2
[19:10] <Cimi> qt 3.x had less features than gtk 2.x
[19:10] <Cimi> it will be a 2.x series without all the deprecated code
[19:10] <Nece228> yeah, i know this, gtk is much more powerful
[19:11] <Nece228> then ok, i like that idea, it will be still stable, will work with current apps
[19:12] <Cimi> apps should require just few modifications to work with 3.0
[19:12] <Cimi> a rewrite will not be needed
[19:12] <Nece228> thats great
[19:14] <Nece228> i just remember old question which i wanted to ask in past
[19:15] <Nece228> but its stupid enough so i will not ask it
[19:24] <Nece228> Cimi: very nice configurator, im playing with it now
[19:24] <Cimi> it's not mine
[19:24] <Cimi> and it is not supported by the svn
[19:26] <Nece228> Cimi: no matter, murrine configurator is very cool
[19:44] <Nece228> ok im off, bye
[21:55] <Cimi> kwwii, ping
[22:01] <kwwii> Cimi: pong
[22:02] <Cimi> kwwii, pvt?
[22:02] <kwwii> sure