| chrisccoulson | james_w - i've just seen bug 284653 | 00:44 |
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| ubottu | Launchpad bug 284653 in consolekit "Consolekit crashes due to /var/dbus/system_bus_socket " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/284653 | 00:44 |
| james_w | yeah | 00:44 |
| chrisccoulson | i don't know what to do with hid bug report anymore;) | 00:45 |
| james_w | I was just going to close it | 00:45 |
| james_w | but then I had a change of heart at the last minute | 00:45 |
| chrisccoulson | i was thinking of closing it too;) | 00:45 |
| james_w | if he carries on I think we should consider escalating things | 00:45 |
| chrisccoulson | yeah, i think you're right. | 00:46 |
| chrisccoulson | i don't understand how one person can have so many problems that nobody else seems to experience | 00:46 |
| james_w | have you seen any activity that goes beyond irritating? | 00:46 |
| chrisccoulson | did you see his recommended steps to recreate the crash in consolekit? | 00:47 |
| james_w | he seems to like "chmod" a bit too much | 00:47 |
| chrisccoulson | he does! | 00:47 |
| james_w | that's probably where most of his issues come from | 00:47 |
| chrisccoulson | i don't think that chmod -R /* is a great idea | 00:47 |
| james_w | really? | 00:47 |
| james_w | it surely fixes every possible issue | 00:47 |
| james_w | nothing could possibly go wrong | 00:48 |
| chrisccoulson | yeah, he recommended a chmod -R 777 /* i think | 00:48 |
| chrisccoulson | i did that once by accident! | 00:48 |
| chrisccoulson | he posts on the ubuntuforums too: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=912682 | 00:51 |
| james_w | chrisccoulson: oh, I just replied to your sponsor request as well | 00:51 |
| chrisccoulson | ah yes! | 00:52 |
| james_w | "I do admit though that I was a little bit drunk at the moment I posted the bug." | 00:52 |
| james_w | I love that sentence | 00:52 |
| chrisccoulson | lol | 00:52 |
| james_w | "Anyway, the other argments are not very helpful, I need to stick to the point. I am afraid such is impossible, since I do not know what the point is." | 00:52 |
| chrisccoulson | haha! | 00:53 |
| chrisccoulson | i've got no idea why that patch got dropped from system-config-samba | 00:53 |
| chrisccoulson | it doesn't appear to be documented anywhere, and the libraries that the upstream source depend on have never been packaged | 00:54 |
| chrisccoulson | very odd | 00:54 |
| james_w | yeah, I hadn't bothered to pull up the changelog yet | 00:54 |
| chrisccoulson | i'll have a look and see when they were dropped, but i suspect it will be when the patch system was changed to quilt | 00:54 |
| james_w | Just thought I'd ask, I was looking for reasons to not sponsor it tonight :-) | 00:54 |
| chrisccoulson | lol | 00:54 |
| chrisccoulson | i'm not sure about your other question though. i literally just had a look at the old patch and then regenerated it with quilt | 00:55 |
| chrisccoulson | which was difficult! i've never used quilt before | 00:55 |
| chrisccoulson | i had to regenerate it because some of the source file names had changed | 00:56 |
| james_w | I guess you are right | 00:56 |
| james_w | just "grep -r N_ ." will be a start | 00:56 |
| james_w | right, I must sleep, I've got to be reasonably awake for a call tomorrow morning. I'll sponsor your patch tomorrow. | 01:02 |
| chrisccoulson | thanks for that! | 01:04 |
| chrisccoulson | i've got tomorrow off work;) | 01:04 |
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| nellery | so who's running this Ubuntu Open Week's bug sessions? | 02:27 |
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| dholbach | good morning | 06:41 |
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| maco | can someone look at bug 282977 ? xscreensaver and gnome-screensaver both have entries in System->Preferences as just "Screensaver" in Intrepid. Is it too late to nominate a semi-cosmetic but also rather confusing bug like that for release? | 08:19 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 282977 in xscreensaver "gnome-screensaver and xscreensaver both appear in preferences list" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/282977 | 08:19 |
| maco | thekorn: the applet's supposed to count down, right? | 09:19 |
| james_w | maco: I'd jump on #ubuntu-devel and ask that question | 09:21 |
| james_w | the first one I mean | 09:21 |
| maco | james_w: ok | 09:21 |
| thekorn | maco: yes, with the most recent PPA package the applet should count donw from 5 to 0 | 09:28 |
| maco | thekorn: do i have to remove it and re-add it? it didnt count down when i tried it like 30 minutes ago | 09:28 |
| thekorn | maco: oh, I'm not sure about it, sorry, | 09:30 |
| thekorn | but maybe re-adding is neccessary | 09:30 |
| maco | thekorn: well the font changed when i re-added it | 09:31 |
| maco | so maybe now it'll count down | 09:31 |
| thekorn | then countdown should work | 09:31 |
| maco | ok | 09:32 |
| dholbach | or restarting the session | 09:42 |
| dholbach | if you didn't it will have the old version still in memory | 09:42 |
| maco | dholbach: ah ok, makes sense | 09:47 |
| maco | countdown works! | 09:53 |
| dholbach | ROCK | 10:02 |
| maco | i get now how people recognize duplicates easily | 10:03 |
| maco | touch enough bugs every day, and there's a very good chance you've touched the master bug or at least wandered past it at some point | 10:03 |
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| fib1908 | hi best stable version of kdenlive for ubuntu ? | 11:33 |
| Guest18685 | can someone look at my comment to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ssl-cert/+bug/250400 and try to verify it please? i think this bug is pretty severe (renders systems broken on upgrading!) but very easy and fast to fix ... the bug report is actually pretty old | 11:35 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 250400 in ssl-cert "package ssl-cert 1.0.14-0ubuntu2.1 failed to install/upgrade: " [High,Triaged] | 11:35 |
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| stivw | sry ... nick change ;) | 11:35 |
| james_w | stivw: is it using unattended-upgrades? | 11:41 |
| stivw | the package? | 11:44 |
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| stivw | i don't know ... i am using an automated installation script after a netinstall to install additional packages - which is started in /etc/rc.local and this fails. i then tried to install it with a cron script which also fails. if i add /usr/sbin to PATH everything works. i then built the package with the two changes i described and it also works. i think it's an error in the package NOT to use absolute paths | 11:47 |
| james_w | it's common to use non-absolute paths, and possibly even encouraged in policy | 12:02 |
| james_w | I think administrative scripts should reasonably be allowed to expect to have /usr/sbin in the path | 12:03 |
| stivw | well then the bug is invalid - it just fails because of the missing path | 12:09 |
| stivw | well ... yet another comment - the bug isn't closed yet | 13:41 |
| stivw | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ssl-cert/+bug/250400 | 13:41 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 250400 in ssl-cert "package ssl-cert 1.0.14-0ubuntu2.1 failed to install/upgrade: " [High,Won't fix] | 13:41 |
| stivw | this also has an effect on ALL packages that use make-ssl-cert together with ssleay.cnf files. eg lighttpd has the same problem too. if installed/upgraded the path won't be set, and the pem file won't be generated (!) | 13:47 |
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| a|wen | does upgrade-manager save a list of installed packages before the dist upgrade or some other log files you can use for debugging? | 15:36 |
| a|wen | or if anyone is a pycentral expert and has any idea what exactly fails here in bug 284936 | 15:38 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 284936 in python-uniconvertor "package python-uniconvertor 1.1.2-1 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/284936 | 15:38 |
| bddebian | Boo | 15:40 |
| a|wen | arrgh - don't frighten people | 15:42 |
| a|wen | :) | 15:42 |
| bddebian | :) | 15:44 |
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| maestrolinux | http://s2.ar.bitefight.org/c.php?uid=19732 | 16:43 |
| maestrolinux | http://s2.ar.bitefight.org/c.php?uid=19732 | 16:45 |
| macd_ | a bug in the ubuntu website, would that go on LP? | 17:42 |
| persia | against the ubuntu-website project, I believe | 17:43 |
| Flannel | yep | 17:45 |
| macd_ | thanks, and done. | 17:49 |
| mrooney | Hmm, apport can't report bugs in update-manager that occur before installing updates, since the updates aren't installed. | 18:18 |
| mrooney | How...interesting. | 18:18 |
| mrooney | I feel that update-manager should have a special exception there | 18:18 |
| persia | mrooney, Rather, that the current special exception for update-manager consider the case where update-manager itself is having an issue. | 18:19 |
| mrooney | persia: update manager has a special exception already? | 18:20 |
| persia | I believe so : I think it generates the bugs in other packages when the maintainer scripts break. | 18:22 |
| mrooney | persia: ah, ok | 18:22 |
| charlie-tca | I'm working to confirm bug 226606. It is about hal not recognizing the drive if the leading / is missing | 18:31 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 226606 in linux "umount doesn't understand relative mount point names" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/226606 | 18:31 |
| charlie-tca | There are a number of other comments that have nothing to do with this. Can I confirm it and what | 18:31 |
| charlie-tca | do I do with the rest? | 18:32 |
| * mrooney looks | 18:36 | |
| mrooney | charlie-tca: hm I don't know none of the confirming comments seem to have anything to do with the bug report...for some reason | 18:52 |
| charlie-tca | I know, but I can reproduce the original report. /media will work, media won't | 18:53 |
| charlie-tca | I think it should go wishlist, though | 18:54 |
| mrooney | yeah, I guess confirm and wishlist it | 18:54 |
| mrooney | it is easy to work around | 18:54 |
| charlie-tca | yea, just use the leading / | 18:54 |
| mrooney | just mention in the comments that you can confirm it and your wishlist rationale | 18:55 |
| charlie-tca | Thanks for your help | 18:55 |
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| LimCore | default settings of ubuntu lead to data corruption | 20:04 |
| persia | LimCore, Really? In what way? | 20:06 |
| LimCore | persia: this is thanks to brain dead design of logout feauture | 20:09 |
| LimCore | its so interesting, Im whipping up a bug report right now to share this amazing experience | 20:09 |
| persia | LimCore, OK. I'll look forward to reading the bug, as I'm curious. Is this hardy or intrepid? | 20:10 |
| LimCore | all versions | 20:10 |
| LimCore | also, most distros probably | 20:10 |
| bdmurray | saivann: wrt bug 270777 this used to work? | 20:13 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 270777 in rhythmbox "Recent updates breaks MTP in Rhythmbox" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/270777 | 20:13 |
| LimCore | persia: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/285141 | 20:23 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 285141 in ubuntu "logout box + no way to kill computer = data corruption" [Undecided,New] | 20:23 |
| persia | LimCore, For the UPS use-case, I'd argue that the right answer is that the user should have connected a serial cable or USB cable to the UPS, and the alert should start the shutdown sequence. For the thunderstorm use case, I can see value in your suggestion, although I still think it's Wishlist, as generally one shouldn't lose much data (immediate working set). | 20:28 |
| LimCore | persia: UPS is a solution, but not for all cases | 20:30 |
| LimCore | User with access to power button CAN turn off computer always, so lets allow him to do it gracefully, if he insists (pressing power button several times). | 20:33 |
| LimCore | Also: this will solve cases like when keyboard dies (I seen it), or gfx card dies (seen it too) and other strange cases. | 20:33 |
| persia | LimCore, Right. Like I said, it's a good idea. It's just that the first example you give starts with a UPS, and the solution for a UPS is well known and different. I encourage editing, not rejection. | 20:34 |
| persia | If you edit it to clean up the UPS use case, I'd even be happy to confirm it :) | 20:34 |
| LimCore | persia: rewritten | 20:45 |
| LimCore | I almost corrupted FS today, I was in the process of using damn cellphone as lighter to try to login as root and shutdown -h now # die $%^* but I was saved in last second - power went back on. Im so irritated by such careless design like this one | 20:46 |
| saivann | bdmurray : What do you mean? | 20:51 |
| bdmurray | saivann: I was wondering if it really was a regression. I've never tried it before today. | 20:52 |
| saivann | bdmurray : This works perfectly under Hardy and with previous versions of rhythmbox, I will identify specific revision in rhythmbox that introduced this problem when I'll get some time (in the next days) | 20:52 |
| saivann | bdmurray : Definitively a regression in rhythmbox, and not in libraries because I can build old version in intrepid and they work | 20:52 |
| persia | Could someone suggest a package for bug #285141, or does that belong on brainstorm? | 20:58 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 285141 in ubuntu "logout box + no way to kill computer = data corruption" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/285141 | 20:58 |
| LimCore | persia: I can write it probably | 20:59 |
| LimCore | bash script, called from ACPI power button, counts, and if needed calls shutdowns/kills/syncs | 21:00 |
| LimCore | if but someone else would pack it for me | 21:02 |
| persia | LimCore, Right, but I think acpi-support is going away, which makes it a little more complicated. | 21:02 |
| LimCore | it is going away? O_o ? why? what replaces it | 21:02 |
| LimCore | then what will be the way to have something executed on ACPI event? | 21:07 |
| persia | I'm not entirely sure how the new system is supposed to work : maybe Kernel -> HAL -> Dbus -> client? Maybe ask in #ubuntu-devel, noting that you're working on that bug? | 21:12 |
| persia | (mind you it's not a great time to ask in #ubuntu-devel, but you might get lucky. | 21:12 |
| saivann | bdmurray : Thanks for your comments on the bug report! | 21:12 |
| LimCore | persia: that seems very bad | 21:31 |
| LimCore | persia: it is BAD decision imho to remove the wounderfull possiblity of simply having user defined scripts executed on ACPI events! | 21:32 |
| persia | LimCore, No, it's just changing the mechanism by which it's done. That I don't understand the new mechansim shoulldn't be taken to indicate that it doesn't exist. | 21:32 |
| LimCore | well, we should keep it compatible - no mater what underlying mechnism, the same user(admin) defined scripts should be executed | 21:33 |
| persia | LimCore, Ask in -devel. It may be that way, and I'm misunderstanding. | 21:35 |
| maco | thekorn_: when does the countdown reset back to 5? | 21:36 |
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| rrittenhouse | I'm new at triaging. Can I get some help with #284434 ? | 22:43 |
| rrittenhouse | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/284434 | 22:43 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 284434 in ubuntu "Computer beeps relentlessly on startup (internal speaker)" [Undecided,Incomplete] | 22:43 |
| rrittenhouse | I'm unsure what other information would helpful in this case or what the next steps should be. | 22:44 |
| crimsun | well, first, the reporter should be running current intrepid | 22:44 |
| crimsun | there are several possible causes, and we really need the reporter running the latest kernel in intrepid for starters | 22:45 |
| persia | rrittenhouse, You want lspci -vvnn and lsusb -v as well, and to ask for a retest with a current daily. | 22:45 |
| crimsun | moreover, dmesg (or /var/log/dmesg from a daily-live) | 22:46 |
| rrittenhouse | ok | 22:46 |
| rrittenhouse | thank you. | 22:49 |
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