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| soundray | AlexC: I understand you've tried displayconfig-gtk | 21:33 |
|---|---|---|
| AlexC | yes | 21:33 |
| soundray | AlexC: did you find a display setting there that matched your monitor? | 21:33 |
| AlexC | I also tried renaming xorg,.conf to xorg,conf.save and restarting X | 21:34 |
| AlexC | TY=The highest choices offered are 1280x1024 and 1400x800 | 21:34 |
| AlexC | I have selected as my monitor LCD 1680x1050 | 21:35 |
| AlexC | My video driver is for ATI Radeon | 21:35 |
| AlexC | It should work. But it doesnt | 21:35 |
| soundray | AlexC: did you change the Model setting away from "Plug and Play"? | 21:35 |
| AlexC | Yes. | 21:35 |
| AlexC | I have selected as my monitor LCD 1680x1050 | 21:35 |
| AlexC | I restarted and rebooted several times | 21:36 |
| soundray | What did you do after that? | 21:36 |
| soundray | Did you click on Test ? | 21:36 |
| AlexC | then I went into preferences->Screen Resolution but the highest resolution offered remains 1280x1024 | 21:36 |
| soundray | Please, for now, answer only my questions | 21:36 |
| soundray | Did you click on Test ? | 21:37 |
| AlexC | Yes | 21:37 |
| soundray | What happened? | 21:37 |
| AlexC | It displayed a grey hash pattern and asked if I wanted to save my settings. I said yes. | 21:37 |
| soundray | Okay. Are you at the poor resolution right now? | 21:38 |
| AlexC | I am at 1280x1024. There is a 1440x900 option also. | 21:38 |
| soundray | Okay. When you do 'gksudo displayconfig-gtk' now, does it still show LCD 1680x1024 under Model? | 21:39 |
| AlexC | I have just switched to 1440x900. I dopnt like this one either.. | 21:39 |
| AlexC | let me try | 21:39 |
| soundray | AlexC: can you please, just while I'm helping you, not do anything other than what's in my train of thought? | 21:39 |
| AlexC | yes it still shows LCD Panel 1680x1050 | 21:40 |
| AlexC | (sorry) | 21:40 |
| soundray | Okay, good. | 21:40 |
| soundray | Please put your /etc/X11/xorg.conf on a pastebin so I can have a look at it. | 21:40 |
| AlexC | Sure. (refresh my memory - what is the link to pastbin? | 21:41 |
| soundray | !pastebin | 21:41 |
| ubot5` | pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic) | 21:41 |
| soundray | Oh, ubottu's here, too. Good | 21:42 |
| soundray | ubot5`: Hi | 21:42 |
| ubot5` | Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu-classroom! | 21:42 |
| AlexC | Its there | 21:43 |
| soundray | AlexC: you know the drill | 21:43 |
| soundray | I need the link | 21:43 |
| AlexC | Oops | 21:43 |
| AlexC | I am looking for the link url but not finding it. | 21:44 |
| soundray | You just pasted it, didn't you? In Firefox? | 21:45 |
| AlexC | Yes | 21:45 |
| soundray | So look in the location bar | 21:45 |
| AlexC | It shows on the left under Alex Chigos | 21:45 |
| AlexC | http://pastebin.com/m332691d4 | 21:46 |
| AlexC | Sorry | 21:46 |
| AlexC | I am very frustrated. Not at my best | 21:46 |
| soundray | Where do these modelines come from? Did you put them in by hand? | 21:47 |
| soundray | Line 62 to 71 | 21:47 |
| soundray | *Lines | 21:47 |
| AlexC | Nope. I tried that but it didnt work. This xorg.conf was automatically generated after renaming my original file. | 21:47 |
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| soundray | It's strange that it doesn't have a mode for the resolution you want | 21:48 |
| soundray | Would you mind starting from scratch? | 21:48 |
| AlexC | By the way. that 1400x1050@60 never appears as an option in either displayconfig-gtk or Preferences->tion | 21:48 |
| AlexC | Sure | 21:48 |
| AlexC | Please tell me what to do. | 21:48 |
| soundray | Okay, exit displayconfig if you haven't already | 21:49 |
| AlexC | I have | 21:49 |
| soundray | AlexC: in terminal, do mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf-backup-pre-soundray | 21:49 |
| soundray | sorry | 21:49 |
| AlexC | OK | 21:49 |
| soundray | AlexC: in terminal, do sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf-backup-pre-soundray | 21:49 |
| AlexC | done | 21:50 |
| soundray | Now run 'gksudo displayconfig-gtk' again. Model should be "Plug & Play" again. | 21:50 |
| AlexC | Nw says unknown | 21:51 |
| AlexC | No says unknown | 21:51 |
| soundray | Ah | 21:51 |
| AlexC | (encouraging sound) | 21:51 |
| soundray | Okay, just click on it and select LCD panel 1680x1024 again (that's your native resolution, correct?) | 21:51 |
| AlexC | OK | 21:51 |
| AlexC | done | 21:52 |
| soundray | Don't bother with Test, just save and pastebin me your new /etc/X11/xorg.conf | 21:52 |
| AlexC | http://pastebin.com/d585b1f14 | 21:53 |
| soundray | Okay, that's annoying... it's back to what it was. | 21:54 |
| AlexC | Ah (more encouraging sound) | 21:54 |
| soundray | Shall we try and insert a mode for 1680x1024 manually? | 21:55 |
| AlexC | Lets | 21:55 |
| AlexC | Please guide me | 21:55 |
| soundray | The alternative would be for you to look into an ATI proprietary thing called Catalyst, which I know nothing about | 21:55 |
| AlexC | I am editing the file now | 21:55 |
| AlexC | Catalyst is for windows (I thiink) | 21:55 |
| soundray | I've heard they have it for Linux as well now | 21:56 |
| AlexC | I have been through this with red hat. I got it to work by editing xorg,.conf manually | 21:56 |
| soundray | Okay, give me a minute to find a proper modeline | 21:56 |
| AlexC | I tried copying the lines from my red hat machine into my ubuntu machine but it did not help | 21:56 |
| soundray | Do you have that version of xorg.conf still? | 21:59 |
| AlexC | I think so | 22:00 |
| AlexC | Do you want me to pastebin it? | 22:00 |
| soundray | Yes, if it's reasonably easy to find | 22:00 |
| AlexC | Would you like the entire reed hat xorg.conf or the modified ubuntu one with the correct video driver entries? | 22:01 |
| soundray | modified ubuntu one | 22:01 |
| AlexC | OK | 22:01 |
| AlexC | http://pastebin.com/m48a8fa0d | 22:03 |
| soundray | Theres a slight strangeness in that the modeline for 1680 has no hsync/vsync appendix | 22:04 |
| soundray | You didn't just miss that from the original -- did you? | 22:05 |
| AlexC | I noticed that. I suspect it has to do with the different versions of xorg between Red Hat EL ES 4 and Ubuntu 8.02 | 22:05 |
| AlexC | Is the file truncated in the post? | 22:06 |
| soundray | Yes | 22:06 |
| AlexC | Let me post it again | 22:06 |
| soundray | And it's word-wrapped | 22:06 |
| AlexC | http://pastebin.com/m7bdb4e7d | 22:08 |
| AlexC | I dont know about the word wrap. I am editing in a terminal window. That is what it does. | 22:08 |
| AlexC | In the file it is not wrapped. | 22:08 |
| soundray | Now it's more truncated | 22:09 |
| soundray | Do a 'cat /path/filename' and highlight that to paste | 22:09 |
| AlexC | When I click on the link ai just sent you, it appears to be complete. | 22:09 |
| soundray | Okay | 22:10 |
| soundray | I'd like to see the log when you use this config. | 22:11 |
| soundray | Can you make it current, restart X and pastebin the output from | 22:12 |
| soundray | grep 1680 /var/log/Xorg.0.log | 22:12 |
| AlexC | Should I copy it over and restart X then come back to the #ubuntu-classroom | 22:12 |
| soundray | Yes, please | 22:12 |
| AlexC | OK | 22:12 |
| soundray | I'll wait | 22:12 |
| AlexC | http://pastebin.com/m620a8c96 | 22:17 |
| AlexC | Soundray - still there? | 22:17 |
| soundray | Yes | 22:17 |
| AlexC | just the lines containig 1680 | 22:18 |
| soundray | It looks all good... Still no 1680 in System-Preferences-Screen Resolution? | 22:19 |
| AlexC | Nope - just checked | 22:19 |
| soundray | Do you have the model name of the LCD panel there? | 22:20 |
| AlexC | I think so | 22:20 |
| soundray | Are you going to tell me? | 22:21 |
| AlexC | I had to get a magnifying glass. There is no model number printed on the monitor front or back | 22:22 |
| AlexC | Neither on the box | 22:22 |
| AlexC | Let me check the invoice | 22:22 |
| soundray | Do you get any output when you run xrandr ? | 22:23 |
| AlexC | E2009FP | 22:23 |
| AlexC | yes | 22:24 |
| AlexC | I will post it | 22:24 |
| soundray | Please | 22:24 |
| AlexC | http://pastebin.com/m6cc8cbf | 22:24 |
| soundray | What happens when you do | 22:25 |
| AlexC | ? | 22:26 |
| soundray | xrandr --output VGA-0 --auto | 22:26 |
| AlexC | Not even a blink | 22:26 |
| AlexC | Nothing changes | 22:26 |
| AlexC | Can I specify the resolution in xrandr | 22:27 |
| soundray | yes | 22:27 |
| soundray | I have to read up how | 22:27 |
| AlexC | I tried $xrandr -s 1680x1050 | 22:28 |
| AlexC | got Size 1680x1050 not found in available modes | 22:28 |
| soundray | Yeah | 22:29 |
| soundray | It's listed as the maximum, but it's not listed as a possible mode | 22:29 |
| soundray | Could you send me your entire /var/log/Xorg.0.log ? | 22:29 |
| AlexC | It is interesting that it says Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 1280 x 1024, maximum 1680 x 1050 but then does not list 1680x1050 in mode list | 22:29 |
| soundray | You can use https://fileexchange.imperial.ac.uk if it's too big for pastebin | 22:30 |
| soundray | Yes, indeed | 22:30 |
| soundray | That's why I think another look at the log is in order | 22:30 |
| AlexC | Your email address is requuested | 22:31 |
| soundray | soundray at imperial ac uk | 22:31 |
| AlexC | is that soundray@imperial_ac.uk? | 22:32 |
| soundray | AlexC: no | 22:32 |
| soundray | You're not meant to repeat it here | 22:32 |
| soundray | Why do you think I obfuscated it? | 22:32 |
| AlexC | Sorry, it is asking me to put something there. | 22:32 |
| soundray | Look at the https address, that should give you a clue | 22:32 |
| AlexC | gotit | 22:33 |
| soundray | This channel is publicly logged. You've just tripled my spam volume | 22:33 |
| AlexC | https://fileexchange.imperial.ac.uk/int/3a6b1da3d43/Xorg.0.log | 22:36 |
| AlexC | I am so very sorry | 22:36 |
| soundray | It's very weird. All it ever says is that 1680x1050 is supported, so it should be fine -- but it obviously isn't | 22:38 |
| soundray | If it was my computer, I'd try the proprietary ATI driver next. | 22:39 |
| soundray | Do you want instructions for that? | 22:39 |
| AlexC | Please | 22:39 |
| soundray | System-Administration-Hardware Drivers -- enable the ATI driver and follow the instructions. You will probably have to log out and back in -- I'll hang around. | 22:40 |
| soundray | Might even ask you to reboot | 22:40 |
| AlexC | When I do System->Admin->Hardware Drivers I get a window that is somewhat empty and says No proprietry drivers are in use on this system. | 22:42 |
| soundray | Dang | 22:42 |
| AlexC | My sentiments exactly | 22:42 |
| soundray | Maybe envyng would force it | 22:43 |
| soundray | but I have no experience with it | 22:43 |
| soundray | Should be straightforward, though | 22:43 |
| AlexC | envying? | 22:43 |
| soundray | envyng | 22:43 |
| soundray | !info envyng | 22:43 |
| AlexC | apt-get install envyng? | 22:43 |
| soundray | Think so -- hold on... | 22:44 |
| soundray | !info envyng-gtk | 22:44 |
| soundray | Bot is dead. | 22:44 |
| soundray | apt-get install envyng-gtk should do it | 22:44 |
| AlexC | it is now installed. | 22:44 |
| AlexC | cool | 22:45 |
| soundray | Is it running? | 22:45 |
| AlexC | running it now | 22:46 |
| AlexC | It is downloading something | 22:46 |
| soundray | Yes, that's what it's for | 22:46 |
| AlexC | building . . . | 22:46 |
| soundray | The latest ATI Linux driver | 22:46 |
| AlexC | complete restarting - be right back | 22:47 |
| AlexC | soundray are you there | 22:54 |
| soundray | Yes | 22:54 |
| AlexC | I rebooted. It came up at 640x480. I run displayconfig-gtk and selected 1280x1024 | 22:55 |
| soundray | Depressing | 22:56 |
| AlexC | I then tried to run catalyst and it said there was a problem initializing the catalyst driver | 22:56 |
| AlexC | No ATI graphics driver is installed or the ATI driver is not functioning properly | 22:56 |
| soundray | I've been thinking that there might be a hardware initialization issue | 22:57 |
| soundray | Oh envyng hasn't done its job properly either, then | 22:57 |
| AlexC | Please install the ATI driver appropriate for your harware or configure it with aticonfig | 22:57 |
| AlexC | aticonfig gives me 8 pages of usage notes | 22:57 |
| soundray | Yeah, that one's horrible | 22:57 |
| AlexC | I tried aticonfig --initial and got seg fault | 22:57 |
| soundray | Here's another thing to try | 22:58 |
| soundray | Assuming that it's initialization trouble | 22:58 |
| AlexC | should I re,pve envyng? | 22:59 |
| soundray | Do you know how to set a boot option? | 22:59 |
| AlexC | can you be more specific? | 22:59 |
| soundray | AlexC: I don't think it's done anything, so you might keep it around for when a driver becomes available | 22:59 |
| AlexC | I can press esc at grub to go into the menu. | 22:59 |
| soundray | AlexC: yes, that's what I'd like you to try | 23:00 |
| AlexC | Then I think I press E to edit the kernel line | 23:00 |
| soundray | then hit E on the default boot entry to edit, | 23:00 |
| AlexC | What should I append | 23:00 |
| soundray | then E again on the kernel line | 23:00 |
| soundray | hold on... | 23:00 |
| AlexC | Do you think envyng will interfere? | 23:01 |
| soundray | No | 23:01 |
| AlexC | OK | 23:01 |
| soundray | vga=866 | 23:02 |
| AlexC | OK | 23:02 |
| AlexC | I will be right back | 23:02 |
| soundray | It's a bit of a shot in the dark | 23:02 |
| AlexC | Hi Soundray | 23:10 |
| AlexC | Hi Soundray | 23:11 |
| AlexC | Here I am | 23:13 |
| soundray | Here we all are | 23:13 |
| DarkGu1 | Soundray, alexc | 23:13 |
| DarkGu1 | Hello | 23:13 |
| soundray | It's strange that | 23:13 |
| soundray | Wherever you go there you are | 23:13 |
| DarkGu1 | The page you gave me is 404 | 23:13 |
| AlexC | Hi DarkGu1 | 23:13 |
| soundray | Buckaroo Banzai was right | 23:13 |
| DarkGu1 | hey | 23:13 |
| DarkGu1 | ??? | 23:13 |
| soundray | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions | 23:13 |
| soundray | Works here | 23:13 |
| AlexC | Soundray - it didnt like that video mode. It gave me the option to scan which I tried. I then chose the highest option it offered me | 23:14 |
| soundray | AlexC: this was about initialisation of the monitor | 23:14 |
| AlexC | That scrambled my screen | 23:14 |
| AlexC | I was able to go to Alt-F1 and copy my xorg.conf back and reboot | 23:14 |
| AlexC | I am back to 1280x1024 | 23:14 |
| DarkGu1 | AlexC: what's your monitors maker | 23:15 |
| AlexC | Dell | 23:15 |
| soundray | AlexC: I was hoping that being initialised with vga=866 would make it more cooperative | 23:15 |
| AlexC | I suspect it may be a samsung oem | 23:15 |
| DarkGu1 | soundray: I'm going to reboot. Wait here | 23:15 |
| soundray | Oh, I've got an order | 23:15 |
| AlexC | Yes but it rejected that mode and offered me other choices | 23:15 |
| soundray | AlexC: I see | 23:15 |
| AlexC | scan listed my choices | 23:16 |
| AlexC | I had to pick something so I chose the highest number | 23:16 |
| soundray | What was that? | 23:16 |
| AlexC | Perhaps not the best choice | 23:16 |
| AlexC | I dont know | 23:16 |
| soundray | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VESA_BIOS_Extensions#Linux_video_mode_numbers | 23:16 |
| AlexC | My short term memory isn't what it used to be | 23:16 |
| soundray | How old are you? | 23:17 |
| AlexC | none of those was listed as a choice | 23:17 |
| AlexC | (from your link) | 23:17 |
| soundray | No, they are graphical modes | 23:17 |
| soundray | scan only lists text modes | 23:17 |
| AlexC | only text modes ie e 162 132x44 | 23:17 |
| AlexC | It did say mode 866 not available | 23:19 |
| AlexC | I am 52 | 23:19 |
| AlexC | I am a Python (pygtk) and C developer | 23:19 |
| AlexC | I have been programming since 1980 | 23:19 |
| AlexC | I am usually pretty good at this kindd of thing | 23:19 |
| soundray | I started programming in 1980 :) | 23:20 |
| AlexC | I only use the irc as a last resort after exhausting my other choices including google | 23:20 |
| soundray | Didn't keep it up, though | 23:20 |
| AlexC | No I am very active | 23:20 |
| soundray | All I write these days are bash scriptes | 23:20 |
| AlexC | I am not near a pen and paper and did not write it down | 23:20 |
| DarkGu1 | soundray | 23:20 |
| soundray | *scripts | 23:20 |
| DarkGu1 | Did you say vga=866 | 23:20 |
| AlexC | yes | 23:20 |
| soundray | yes | 23:20 |
| DarkGu1 | It wouldn't let me do it | 23:21 |
| DarkGu1 | Said unrecognized or something | 23:21 |
| soundray | Well, it wasn't the best choice | 23:21 |
| AlexC | yes - mode 866 not available - then it listed about 8 modes + scan | 23:21 |
| DarkGu1 | Any other options? | 23:21 |
| AlexC | I chose scan | 23:21 |
| soundray | 791 should work everywhere | 23:21 |
| AlexC | I got a list of text modes | 23:21 |
| AlexC | I chose one | 23:21 |
| DarkGu1 | I doubt a boot option will help | 23:21 |
| AlexC | So do you want me to try again with 791? | 23:22 |
| soundray | 791 is 1024x768 at 16bit | 23:22 |
| AlexC | I can already get that | 23:22 |
| soundray | DarkGu1: I've fixed at least one strangely behaving machine with that | 23:22 |
| DarkGu1 | soundray: But I need 1400by1500 with 24 bit | 23:22 |
| soundray | That number keeps changing, DarkGu1 | 23:22 |
| DarkGu1 | What number? | 23:23 |
| soundray | I guess you mean 1440x1050 | 23:23 |
| AlexC | Remember that xrandr said my monitor could do 1680 x 1050 but did not list that option | 23:23 |
| DarkGu1 | No I don't | 23:23 |
| DarkGu1 | I mean 1400by1050 | 23:23 |
| soundray | AlexC: DarkGu1's xrandr says maximum 1280x800 | 23:24 |
| soundray | It's all too weird for me | 23:24 |
| soundray | Sorry I couldn't help guys | 23:24 |
| AlexC | Dang | 23:24 |
| DarkGu1 | Are the two sound rays the same | 23:24 |
| soundray | DarkGu1: are there two of me? | 23:24 |
| DarkGu1 | Yes, on e gold, one green | 23:24 |
| soundray | Things are getting ever weirder | 23:25 |
| AlexC | soundray - are you part of the ubuntu dev team? | 23:25 |
| soundray | No | 23:25 |
| AlexC | double dang | 23:25 |
| AlexC | I wish I could find a regular 19" monitor (not wide) | 23:26 |
| AlexC | They seem to have stopped making them | 23:26 |
| AlexC | This machine is for a customer and is scheduled to be installed monday morning | 23:26 |
| AlexC | I will have a difficult tome dancing arouind this | 23:26 |
| AlexC | I will have a difficult time dancing arouind this | 23:26 |
| AlexC | I have been on the ubuntu page since 1:00 EST trying to fix this. It is now 6:25 | 23:27 |
| AlexC | thats a long time with no results. | 23:27 |
| AlexC | I very much appreciate your help. | 23:27 |
| soundray | Agreed | 23:27 |
| soundray | Is the graphics card very recent? | 23:28 |
| AlexC | I thought ubuntu was "the linux that just works" | 23:28 |
| AlexC | No | 23:28 |
| soundray | Graphics is always a problem, esp. ATI and NVidia | 23:28 |
| AlexC | I have been installing this exact configuration (Dell Power Edge Server SC1430) with Red Hat Enterpreise Linux for at least 2 years. Red Hat works with this config | 23:29 |
| AlexC | If not ATI and nVidia, then what? | 23:29 |
| soundray | Intel worked out of the box for me | 23:29 |
| AlexC | Are they not the two most popular video cards in the industry? | 23:29 |
| soundray | They certainly are | 23:29 |
| AlexC | So the guys at Ubuntu just thought they would ignore that fact? | 23:30 |
| soundray | And they happen to be made by the most un-enlightened companies around, as far as free software is concerned | 23:30 |
| AlexC | Ore the guys at xorg | 23:30 |
| soundray | It's not a lack of effort on Ubuntu's part | 23:30 |
| AlexC | How about Dell? | 23:30 |
| AlexC | Maybe someone should let them klnow | 23:30 |
| soundray | You can't write a free video driver without open specifications | 23:31 |
| soundray | Oh, they are being told all the time | 23:31 |
| AlexC | Again, the most popular manufacturer in ths business | 23:31 |
| soundray | Torvalds has threatened closing the kernel API to proprietary modules | 23:31 |
| AlexC | That will driver more people away from linux | 23:31 |
| soundray | Possibly | 23:32 |
| soundray | Well, the fact that it hasn't happened says something | 23:32 |
| AlexC | I think Linux is a pretty smart guy. | 23:32 |
| AlexC | I think Linus is a pretty smart guy. | 23:32 |
| soundray | But there are vocal hardliners among the kernel devs who wouldn't give a toss about popularity | 23:33 |
| AlexC | I do have a problem with the kernel versioning thing! | 23:33 |
| soundray | Yeah, and he's only 13 | 23:33 |
| AlexC | I used to be able to run one version of my X-Med software on any rev of modern linux | 23:33 |
| AlexC | Now I must compile on 4 different machines | 23:34 |
| AlexC | argh | 23:34 |
| soundray | Medical practice software? | 23:34 |
| AlexC | yes | 23:34 |
| soundray | Cool | 23:34 |
| soundray | I'm a doctor | 23:34 |
| AlexC | X-Med is written in C | 23:34 |
| AlexC | my new product, Cybax is written in pygtk | 23:35 |
| AlexC | It runs on linux, mac and windows | 23:35 |
| AlexC | This server will be running X-Med | 23:35 |
| AlexC | cybax is still being developd | 23:35 |
| AlexC | It is very cool | 23:36 |
| AlexC | What kind of doctor? | 23:36 |
| soundray | Is it for appointments and such, or for medical records as well? | 23:36 |
| soundray | Radiologist | 23:36 |
| AlexC | All of the above - including medical records, billing, appointments and document management | 23:36 |
| AlexC | Do you know ali? | 23:36 |
| soundray | HL7 compliant? | 23:37 |
| soundray | No | 23:37 |
| AlexC | He is an anesthesiologist in the UK | 23:37 |
| soundray | On IRC? | 23:37 |
| AlexC | X-Med is Hl7 compliant. Cybax will be | 23:37 |
| soundray | Wow, that must have been hard work... | 23:37 |
| AlexC | Yes - I wrote X-Med single handedly | 23:38 |
| AlexC | I have help with Cybax | 23:38 |
| AlexC | We are using an indian outsourcing company and one of my partners is an ophthalmologist/prrogrammer | 23:38 |
| soundray | I worked for a company once who were selling image management software | 23:38 |
| AlexC | What software? | 23:38 |
| AlexC | Cameleo | 23:39 |
| AlexC | ? | 23:39 |
| soundray | They were aiming to make it HL7 compliant, but went bust before they could :) | 23:39 |
| AlexC | I see | 23:39 |
| AlexC | I am waiting for a rediologist to read an MRI I had today | 23:39 |
| AlexC | on my right medial malleolus | 23:40 |
| soundray | Oh -- nothing bad I hope | 23:40 |
| AlexC | to rule out osteomyelitis | 23:40 |
| soundray | Bad twisted ankle? | 23:40 |
| AlexC | I have an ulcer that has fusarium fungus in it | 23:40 |
| soundray | Nasty | 23:41 |
| AlexC | My infectious disease doctor wants to be sure it is not in the bone before she prescrribes mefs | 23:41 |
| AlexC | My infectious disease doctor wants to be sure it is not in the bone before she prescrribes meds | 23:41 |
| AlexC | I hope not | 23:41 |
| soundray | I bet the med students are all keen to see you | 23:41 |
| AlexC | I saw the images - there were no obvious lights or dark spots on the malleolus that I could see | 23:41 |
| AlexC | But I am not a doctor | 23:42 |
| AlexC | I just make it a point to understand things about my body (and others) | 23:42 |
| soundray | It would be rare for a fungal ulcer to penetrate into the bone | 23:42 |
| AlexC | I was a pre-veteranary student when I got stupid and got married | 23:42 |
| AlexC | That's encouraging | 23:42 |
| AlexC | My ID dr is just being through | 23:43 |
| AlexC | My ID dr is just being thorough | 23:43 |
| soundray | ID? | 23:43 |
| AlexC | I also play keyboards in a Yes triburte band | 23:43 |
| soundray | :) | 23:44 |
| AlexC | (www.x-med/com/MP3/ | 23:44 |
| AlexC | there is an instrumental version of Close To The Edge there | 23:44 |
| AlexC | (www.x-med.com/MP3/ | 23:44 |
| AlexC | Well, I must be on my way. It has been a pleasure talking to you | 23:45 |
| soundray | Again, sorry I couldn't really help | 23:45 |
| AlexC | Thanks for trying. :) Bye | 23:45 |
| soundray | It's worth going down the initialization route once more | 23:46 |
| soundray | vga=792 | 23:46 |
| soundray | Good luck! | 23:46 |
| AlexC | What do you hope this will accomplish? | 23:46 |
| AlexC | I suspect the problem is with the adapter, not the monitor | 23:46 |
| AlexC | Good night | 23:47 |
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