| mxiia | have I been banned in #ubuntu, if so why? | 00:23 |
|---|---|---|
| LjL | yes, you have. let me check on the "why" part | 00:23 |
| PriceChild | LjL: spam. | 00:24 |
| LjL | that's... correct! though you win no prize. | 00:24 |
| mxiia | oh... when do i get unbanned... I dont remember spamming | 00:25 |
| LjL | mxiia, saying "SPAM" three times in a row isn't a very subtle way to spam | 00:25 |
| mxiia | ? | 00:25 |
| LjL | mxiia, did you check the fine print in Mibbit, which said you're *not* anonymous? | 00:25 |
| mxiia | yea... | 00:25 |
| mxiia | prolly was my sister on my account, though not blaming others.. | 00:25 |
| LjL | 2008-10-12T19:40:29 <MXII4> SPAM | 00:26 |
| LjL | 2008-10-12T19:40:31 <MXII4> SPAM | 00:26 |
| LjL | 2008-10-12T19:40:32 <MXII4> SPAM | 00:26 |
| mxiia | yea | 00:26 |
| mxiia | <_< | 00:26 |
| mneptok | this is why screensavers have passwords, son | 00:26 |
| PriceChild | mxiia: You are responsible for the connections you make. | 00:27 |
| mxiia | Yes, i know, how long am I banned? | 00:27 |
| PriceChild | Mimi: outbri: Can I help either of you? | 00:27 |
| LjL | mxiia: you or your sister joined, then after being banned, attempted to join again for 2 hours. for some reason that seems to me uncomfortably much to believe it was an accident | 00:28 |
| outbri | Wow, this channel gets quite a bit of attention. ;) No, I just heard about the channel in a reply to mxii #ubuntu and thought I'd check it out. | 00:28 |
| PriceChild | outbri: could you reword that last bit please, I didn't quite understand. | 00:29 |
| outbri | In a reply to mxii *in* the #ubuntu channel. | 00:29 |
| LjL | #ubuntu+1, even | 00:30 |
| outbri | Err, yeah. In other words, you don't have to waste any time on me, I didn't need anything. | 00:30 |
| LjL | outbri: ok, but we'd prefer this channels' discussion to remain private between the ops and the people involved | 00:31 |
| outbri | Sounds good to me, even if it is 50 ops to each person. :P | 00:32 |
| outbri | Cya. | 00:32 |
| LjL | if you have someone in -proxy-users who you feel comfortable joining #ubuntu, you can "exempt nick!ident@host" in -ops-monitor from now on | 01:43 |
| LjL | an exempt will be added by the bots, and removed when the user parts or is kicked (just like with mibbit) | 01:43 |
| nalioth | excellent :) grazi, LjL | 01:45 |
| LjL | grazie* ;) | 01:46 |
| PriceChild | automatic mibbit one still done? | 01:49 |
| LjL | sure PriceChild | 01:53 |
| LjL | unless i've introduced bugs in the process, but i checked briefly and it still worked | 01:53 |
| LjL | on the other hand | 01:53 |
| LjL | after today's quite unpleasant flood that the floodbots managed to do almost nothing about | 01:54 |
| LjL | i've tightened the flood triggers a little | 01:56 |
| LjL | that means, however, that if a bot gets very lagged, it *could* go berserk and set +rR without any actual attack | 01:56 |
| LjL | hope it never happens but if it does well, let me know | 01:56 |
| ubottu | FloodBot3 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit) | 02:06 |
| ubottu | FloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit) | 02:06 |
| ubottu | FloodBot2 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit) | 02:06 |
| PriceChild | fail | 02:06 |
| LjL | uh... | 02:11 |
| LjL | PriceChild: didn't fail, that was someone testing the bots | 02:11 |
| PriceChild | sorry, i was thinking the evil person was failing | 02:11 |
| LjL | PriceChild: look at "Expl0ited" | 02:11 |
| PriceChild | hmm? | 02:12 |
| LjL | (also, the exploitER had an unaffiliated cloak, by the way) | 02:12 |
| LjL | PriceChild: well, it's weird that someone whose nickname is "Expl0ited" would fall victim of an exploit... no? | 02:13 |
| LjL | might just be me being overly suspicious of course. | 02:14 |
| PriceChild | very odd | 02:14 |
| StonewallJackson | I am stonewall Jackson | 03:01 |
| StoneWallJackson | I am StoneWallJackson | 03:11 |
| jussi01 | Morning all! | 08:43 |
| jussi01 | hrm... Stonewall jackson... right... | 08:43 |
| Flannel | Howdy jussi01 | 08:47 |
| jussi01 | Morning flannel | 08:48 |
| Flannel | I can't decide whether A|}EEL is trying to cause problems, or just... being himself | 09:17 |
| === elky_work is now known as elky | ||
| === elky is now known as elky_work | ||
| === LjL-Temp is now known as LjL | ||
| Tm_T | hi LjL && Mez | 14:04 |
| LjL | hi | 14:05 |
| Mez | hey Tm_T | 14:25 |
| * Mez wonders why the < and > round a user are now unreadable | 14:25 | |
| jdong | <><><><><><><><><<><><><><><><><><><><> | 14:31 |
| jdong | Mez: did you switch from a black to white terminal or vice-versa and forget to update your theme? :) | 14:31 |
| Mez | nope... still same theme, same terminal | 14:32 |
| Mez | it's just the ones around nicks are purple, and hard to see, they werent earlier | 14:32 |
| Mez | infact, It's still the same session as when they were visible | 14:33 |
| * jdong blames it on compiz. | 14:36 | |
| * Mez doesnt use compiz | 14:36 | |
| Mez | what happened to Myrtti? | 14:41 |
| Tm_T | Mez: he's on duty elsewhere | 14:43 |
| Mez | he? | 14:43 |
| Tm_T | she, bah | 14:43 |
| Tm_T | whatever | 14:43 |
| Mez | "on duty"? | 14:43 |
| Tm_T | dunno details | 14:44 |
| * Mez sends an SMS | 14:44 | |
| Tm_T | I hope he can receive one, as she stated that he cannot take calls | 14:44 |
| Tm_T | she | 14:45 |
| Tm_T | bah, she's more he than I am | 14:45 |
| === Pici` is now known as Pici | ||
| Pici | o.O | 14:47 |
| LjL | !version | 16:10 |
| ubottu | To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type « lsb_release -rc » in a !shell | 16:10 |
| LjL | !no version is <reply> To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type « lsb_release -dc » in a !shell - To know the available version of a package, « apt-cache policy <package> » | 16:10 |
| ubottu | I'll remember that LjL | 16:10 |
| Mez | LjL: ?? | 16:39 |
| LjL | yes? | 16:39 |
| Mez | why dc instead of rc? | 16:40 |
| LjL | ljl@ljlbox:~$ lsb_release -rc | 16:40 |
| LjL | Release: 8.04 | 16:40 |
| LjL | Codename: hardy | 16:40 |
| LjL | ljl@ljlbox:~$ lsb_release -dc | 16:40 |
| LjL | Description: Ubuntu 8.04.1 | 16:40 |
| LjL | Codename: hardy | 16:40 |
| Mez | yeah, I know the difference | 16:40 |
| Mez | but. | 16:40 |
| LjL | but, "-r" doesn't give you the real version. | 16:40 |
| Mez | Description:Ubuntu intrepid (development branch) | 16:40 |
| Mez | Codename:intrepid | 16:40 |
| LjL | for that matter, i don't know why that's been changed from "lsb_release -a" to begin with | 16:41 |
| Mez | @login | 16:41 |
| ubottu | The operation succeeded. | 16:41 |
| LjL | Mez: well that's correct | 16:41 |
| LjL | Intrepid doesn't really have a version number yet | 16:41 |
| LjL | it might be delayed (it won't, but) | 16:41 |
| Mez | !version =~ s/lsb_release -dc/lsb_release -a/ | 16:42 |
| ubottu | I'll remember that Mez | 16:42 |
| Mez | !version | 16:42 |
| ubottu | To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type « lsb_release -a » in a !shell - To know the available version of a package, « apt-cache policy <package> » | 16:42 |
| LjL | good call, i'm pretty sure nobody will be bothered by the couple more informative lines that outputs. | 16:42 |
| Mez | and er, why use policy, policy is a bit confusing right? | 16:43 |
| LjL | what else would you use? it's the command virtually everyone gives in #ubuntu to check package version, both installed and available, and just where it came from | 16:43 |
| Mez | madison ? | 16:43 |
| LjL | doesn't even tell you whether the package is actually installed | 16:44 |
| Mez | dpkg -l ? :P | 16:44 |
| LjL | what's wrong with apt-cache policy? it's just what that command exists for | 16:45 |
| Mez | It's not very readable to be used in a factoid like that | 16:45 |
| LjL | not sure i see why | 16:46 |
| Mez | well, do you understand what | 16:46 |
| Mez | 500 http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com intrepid/main Packages | 16:46 |
| Mez | 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status | 16:46 |
| LjL | the output of dpkg -l, on the other hand, is far from readable | 16:46 |
| Mez | means? | 16:46 |
| LjL | of course i do | 16:46 |
| LjL | the version is available from intrepid's main repository, british mirror, with priority 500 | 16:47 |
| LjL | it's known to the local status file | 16:47 |
| Mez | priority ? | 16:47 |
| LjL | yes, the repository's priority is 500 | 16:47 |
| Mez | what do you mean "priority"? | 16:47 |
| LjL | i mean that if APT has to choose between two packages, it will choose the one with the higher priority | 16:48 |
| LjL | the security repository has a high priority | 16:48 |
| LjL | locally installed packages have a low priority | 16:48 |
| Mez | not neccessarily | 16:49 |
| LjL | anyway, no one can mistake the part where it says "Installed: <version>, Candidate: <version>" | 16:49 |
| Mez | It's actually the pinning priority ;) | 16:50 |
| stdin | Mez, LjL: it was changed to -rc because people often paste all of "lsb_release -a" to the channel | 16:50 |
| Mez | stdin: all 4 ? | 16:50 |
| LjL | Mez: what other priority there is? | 16:51 |
| Flannel | LjL: Any? | 16:51 |
| stdin | Mez: why 4 when 2 will do | 16:51 |
| LjL | Flannel: hm? | 16:51 |
| Mez | stdin: why 2 when 1 will do? | 16:51 |
| Flannel | LjL: You can specify arbitrary priorities | 16:51 |
| stdin | and it'll probably print 5 actually | 16:51 |
| LjL | stdin: because they don't really | 16:52 |
| Flannel | The important thing about -a vs the others is it also has the codename | 16:52 |
| Flannel | oh wait | 16:52 |
| LjL | Flannel: -c gives the codename | 16:52 |
| Flannel | LjL: see above | 16:52 |
| Mez | why not lsb_release -c | 16:52 |
| Flannel | Mez: because that's not the actual release name? | 16:53 |
| LjL | Mez: because a lot of people know their codenames but not their version numbers, and vice versa | 16:53 |
| stdin | -a == -virdc | 16:53 |
| * Flannel is torn between -d and -r | 16:53 | |
| Flannel | well, with -c | 16:53 |
| LjL | also | 16:53 |
| LjL | "description" (-d or -a) will let us know whether they're actually using ubuntu | 16:53 |
| LjL | or a derivative | 16:53 |
| LjL | "release" won't | 16:53 |
| Flannel | actually, thats sometimes important | 16:53 |
| LjL | yes, it is, given the amount of Mint etc. users who sneak in | 16:54 |
| Flannel | so, lets just leave it as -a, most people know not to paste, etc. | 16:54 |
| Flannel | social fixes for social problems, etc. | 16:54 |
| stdin | do all derivatives change the description? | 16:54 |
| LjL | Flannel: and if they don't, they'll find out one way or another anyway | 16:54 |
| Mez | echo /etc/lsb-release | 16:54 |
| Flannel | LjL: but it makes it easier for us ;) | 16:54 |
| Mez | s/echo/cat/ | 16:54 |
| LjL | stdin: well, maybe the stupid ones don't, but there's only so much i can do about it | 16:54 |
| LjL | Mez, that's what the factoid used to say (well, it said /etc/issue) years ago | 16:54 |
| Flannel | LjL: that's not acceptable! you need to go change all of the derivative's descriptions. | 16:55 |
| LjL | Flannel: i will certainly bug them if i find out, you can bet on that | 16:55 |
| LjL | Flannel: the trademarks department of canonical would normally also like to hear about that | 16:55 |
| LjL | Flannel: anyway with "they'll find out one way or another", i meant to say that, if they don't paste all the five lines of -a but just two of them, then 5 minutes later they'll paste their entire xorg.conf | 16:57 |
| LjL | so if someone doesn't know they should use the pastebin, it's even better they start finding out while pasting something small | 16:58 |
| ubottu | In #ubuntu, d-b said: ubottu: ufw is ubuntu or uncomplicated firewall. see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuFirewall . there is also gufw. | 17:42 |
| ubottu | In ubottu, d-b said: ubottu: ufw is ubuntu or uncomplicated firewall. see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuFirewall . there is also gufw. | 17:43 |
| * Flannel is the reason for the double post | 17:44 | |
| Pici | !ufw | 17:51 |
| ubottu | Sorry, I don't know anything about ufw | 17:51 |
| genii | Good morning, afternoon or evening. | 17:56 |
| Flannel | Howdy genii | 17:56 |
| Pici | Hallo | 17:56 |
| genii | I'm on today with Konversation but tonight after work I'll return for more irssi practice... | 17:57 |
| genii | ;) | 17:57 |
| Pici | Heh ;) | 17:58 |
| PriceChild | genii: You don't have to switch. | 18:00 |
| Pici | genii: Obi-wan never told you what happened to your father. | 18:00 |
| genii | PriceChild: I figure I should probably know how it works anyways since the scripting features which make moderating easier, etc | 18:01 |
| genii | Pici: Yes, he was a fellow full of secrets | 18:01 |
| === tritium_ is now known as tritium | ||
| PriceChild | genii: time so far been at all eventful? | 18:03 |
| genii | PriceChild: As far as moderating #kubuntu , no. One fellow spamming some which I thnk mneptok took care of | 18:04 |
| PriceChild | Good good. | 18:04 |
| genii | They are generally well behaved in there :) | 18:04 |
| Mez | genii: indeed, :D thats why I prefer the kubuntu channels, less ops calls ;) | 18:23 |
| genii | How often does a mass bot attack like yesterday happen ? | 18:24 |
| Pici | genii: In #ubuntu? | 18:27 |
| Mez | depends on how evil the spammers are feeling | 18:27 |
| genii | Pici: Yeah there were what looked like maybe 6-10 different sites with botname variations | 18:28 |
| genii | Hmm | 18:28 |
| Pici | genii: Not too often, but often enough that we have the floodbots in place to handle mass joins and such. | 18:29 |
| genii | OK | 18:30 |
| LjL | widely depends on the time of the year, mostly | 18:47 |
| Mez | !eee is <alias> eeepc | 18:50 |
| ubottu | I'll remember that, Mez | 18:50 |
| * Mez is surprised it doesnt have info about nbr | 18:51 | |
| Mez | o_O | 18:54 |
| Mez | my eeePC isnt booting | 18:54 |
| Mez | ah, left it on and knocked out power cable :D | 18:55 |
| jussi01 | hehe | 18:56 |
| ubottu | In #ubuntu-offtopic, magnetron said: !aubade is <reply> <aubade> snuxoll: elephant penis <3 | 19:05 |
| Tm_T | hi kids | 19:06 |
| ikonia | magnetron appears to be going off the rails | 19:07 |
| ubottu | In #ubuntu-offtopic, magnetron said: !elephant is <reply> <aubade> snuxoll: elephant penis <3 | 19:07 |
| ubottu | In #ubuntu-offtopic, aubade said: !magnetron is <reply> goodjobgoodjobgoodjobgoodjobgoodjob | 19:08 |
| * Mez rolls eyes | 19:10 | |
| * Mez wonders how the research team into FSOE is getting on | 19:11 | |
| LjL | next time short ban, can't lead them to believe they can get this cruft through | 19:11 |
| ubottu | In ubottu, Ktron_ said: rickroll is <reply>Never gonna give you up! | 20:38 |
| LjL | !botabuse > ktron_ (ktron_, see the private message from Ubotu) | 20:38 |
| ScottK | maestrolinux has been popping in and out of Ubuntu IRC channels and link spamming. He was just in #ubuntu-server. | 20:56 |
| ScottK | Riddell banned him in #kubuntu-devel, but I guess it needs doing on a wider basis. | 20:56 |
| christel | ScottK: klined, thanks | 20:56 |
| ScottK | Thank you. | 20:57 |
| christel | np | 20:58 |
| ubottu | In ubottu, Some_Person said: ffmpeg is a cross-platform command line video encoder for linux. To install, type "sudo apt-get install ffmpeg". For help, type "ffmpeg -h" | 23:26 |
| ubottu | In ubottu, drog said: ubottu, is there a god? | 23:59 |
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