[00:23] have I been banned in #ubuntu, if so why? [00:23] yes, you have. let me check on the "why" part [00:24] LjL: spam. [00:24] that's... correct! though you win no prize. [00:25] oh... when do i get unbanned... I dont remember spamming [00:25] mxiia, saying "SPAM" three times in a row isn't a very subtle way to spam [00:25] ? [00:25] mxiia, did you check the fine print in Mibbit, which said you're *not* anonymous? [00:25] yea... [00:25] prolly was my sister on my account, though not blaming others.. [00:26] 2008-10-12T19:40:29 SPAM [00:26] 2008-10-12T19:40:31 SPAM [00:26] 2008-10-12T19:40:32 SPAM [00:26] yea [00:26] <_< [00:26] this is why screensavers have passwords, son [00:27] mxiia: You are responsible for the connections you make. [00:27] Yes, i know, how long am I banned? [00:27] Mimi: outbri: Can I help either of you? [00:28] mxiia: you or your sister joined, then after being banned, attempted to join again for 2 hours. for some reason that seems to me uncomfortably much to believe it was an accident [00:28] Wow, this channel gets quite a bit of attention. ;) No, I just heard about the channel in a reply to mxii #ubuntu and thought I'd check it out. [00:29] outbri: could you reword that last bit please, I didn't quite understand. [00:29] In a reply to mxii *in* the #ubuntu channel. [00:30] #ubuntu+1, even [00:30] Err, yeah. In other words, you don't have to waste any time on me, I didn't need anything. [00:31] outbri: ok, but we'd prefer this channels' discussion to remain private between the ops and the people involved [00:32] Sounds good to me, even if it is 50 ops to each person. :P [00:32] Cya. [01:43] if you have someone in -proxy-users who you feel comfortable joining #ubuntu, you can "exempt nick!ident@host" in -ops-monitor from now on [01:43] an exempt will be added by the bots, and removed when the user parts or is kicked (just like with mibbit) [01:45] excellent :) grazi, LjL [01:46] grazie* ;) [01:49] automatic mibbit one still done? [01:53] sure PriceChild [01:53] unless i've introduced bugs in the process, but i checked briefly and it still worked [01:53] on the other hand [01:54] after today's quite unpleasant flood that the floodbots managed to do almost nothing about [01:56] i've tightened the flood triggers a little [01:56] that means, however, that if a bot gets very lagged, it *could* go berserk and set +rR without any actual attack [01:56] hope it never happens but if it does well, let me know [02:06] FloodBot3 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit) [02:06] FloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit) [02:06] FloodBot2 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit) [02:06] fail [02:11] uh... [02:11] PriceChild: didn't fail, that was someone testing the bots [02:11] sorry, i was thinking the evil person was failing [02:11] PriceChild: look at "Expl0ited" [02:12] hmm? [02:12] (also, the exploitER had an unaffiliated cloak, by the way) [02:13] PriceChild: well, it's weird that someone whose nickname is "Expl0ited" would fall victim of an exploit... no? [02:14] might just be me being overly suspicious of course. [02:14] very odd [03:01] I am stonewall Jackson [03:11] I am StoneWallJackson [08:43] Morning all! [08:43] hrm... Stonewall jackson... right... [08:47] Howdy jussi01 [08:48] Morning flannel [09:17] I can't decide whether A|}EEL is trying to cause problems, or just... being himself === elky_work is now known as elky === elky is now known as elky_work === LjL-Temp is now known as LjL [14:04] hi LjL && Mez [14:05] hi [14:25] hey Tm_T [14:25] * Mez wonders why the < and > round a user are now unreadable [14:31] <><><><><><><><><<><><><><><><><><><><> [14:31] Mez: did you switch from a black to white terminal or vice-versa and forget to update your theme? :) [14:32] nope... still same theme, same terminal [14:32] it's just the ones around nicks are purple, and hard to see, they werent earlier [14:33] infact, It's still the same session as when they were visible [14:36] * jdong blames it on compiz. [14:36] * Mez doesnt use compiz [14:41] what happened to Myrtti? [14:43] Mez: he's on duty elsewhere [14:43] he? [14:43] she, bah [14:43] whatever [14:43] "on duty"? [14:44] dunno details [14:44] * Mez sends an SMS [14:44] I hope he can receive one, as she stated that he cannot take calls [14:45] she [14:45] bah, she's more he than I am === Pici` is now known as Pici [14:47] o.O [16:10] !version [16:10] To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type « lsb_release -rc » in a !shell [16:10] !no version is To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type « lsb_release -dc » in a !shell - To know the available version of a package, « apt-cache policy » [16:10] I'll remember that LjL [16:39] LjL: ?? [16:39] yes? [16:40] why dc instead of rc? [16:40] ljl@ljlbox:~$ lsb_release -rc [16:40] Release: 8.04 [16:40] Codename: hardy [16:40] ljl@ljlbox:~$ lsb_release -dc [16:40] Description: Ubuntu 8.04.1 [16:40] Codename: hardy [16:40] yeah, I know the difference [16:40] but. [16:40] but, "-r" doesn't give you the real version. [16:40] Description: Ubuntu intrepid (development branch) [16:40] Codename: intrepid [16:41] for that matter, i don't know why that's been changed from "lsb_release -a" to begin with [16:41] @login [16:41] The operation succeeded. [16:41] Mez: well that's correct [16:41] Intrepid doesn't really have a version number yet [16:41] it might be delayed (it won't, but) [16:42] !version =~ s/lsb_release -dc/lsb_release -a/ [16:42] I'll remember that Mez [16:42] !version [16:42] To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type « lsb_release -a » in a !shell - To know the available version of a package, « apt-cache policy » [16:42] good call, i'm pretty sure nobody will be bothered by the couple more informative lines that outputs. [16:43] and er, why use policy, policy is a bit confusing right? [16:43] what else would you use? it's the command virtually everyone gives in #ubuntu to check package version, both installed and available, and just where it came from [16:43] madison ? [16:44] doesn't even tell you whether the package is actually installed [16:44] dpkg -l ? :P [16:45] what's wrong with apt-cache policy? it's just what that command exists for [16:45] It's not very readable to be used in a factoid like that [16:46] not sure i see why [16:46] well, do you understand what [16:46] 500 http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com intrepid/main Packages [16:46] 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status [16:46] the output of dpkg -l, on the other hand, is far from readable [16:46] means? [16:46] of course i do [16:47] the version is available from intrepid's main repository, british mirror, with priority 500 [16:47] it's known to the local status file [16:47] priority ? [16:47] yes, the repository's priority is 500 [16:47] what do you mean "priority"? [16:48] i mean that if APT has to choose between two packages, it will choose the one with the higher priority [16:48] the security repository has a high priority [16:48] locally installed packages have a low priority [16:49] not neccessarily [16:49] anyway, no one can mistake the part where it says "Installed: , Candidate: " [16:50] It's actually the pinning priority ;) [16:50] Mez, LjL: it was changed to -rc because people often paste all of "lsb_release -a" to the channel [16:50] stdin: all 4 ? [16:51] Mez: what other priority there is? [16:51] LjL: Any? [16:51] Mez: why 4 when 2 will do [16:51] Flannel: hm? [16:51] stdin: why 2 when 1 will do? [16:51] LjL: You can specify arbitrary priorities [16:51] and it'll probably print 5 actually [16:52] stdin: because they don't really [16:52] The important thing about -a vs the others is it also has the codename [16:52] oh wait [16:52] Flannel: -c gives the codename [16:52] LjL: see above [16:52] why not lsb_release -c [16:53] Mez: because that's not the actual release name? [16:53] Mez: because a lot of people know their codenames but not their version numbers, and vice versa [16:53] -a == -virdc [16:53] * Flannel is torn between -d and -r [16:53] well, with -c [16:53] also [16:53] "description" (-d or -a) will let us know whether they're actually using ubuntu [16:53] or a derivative [16:53] "release" won't [16:53] actually, thats sometimes important [16:54] yes, it is, given the amount of Mint etc. users who sneak in [16:54] so, lets just leave it as -a, most people know not to paste, etc. [16:54] social fixes for social problems, etc. [16:54] do all derivatives change the description? [16:54] Flannel: and if they don't, they'll find out one way or another anyway [16:54] echo /etc/lsb-release [16:54] LjL: but it makes it easier for us ;) [16:54] s/echo/cat/ [16:54] stdin: well, maybe the stupid ones don't, but there's only so much i can do about it [16:54] Mez, that's what the factoid used to say (well, it said /etc/issue) years ago [16:55] LjL: that's not acceptable! you need to go change all of the derivative's descriptions. [16:55] Flannel: i will certainly bug them if i find out, you can bet on that [16:55] Flannel: the trademarks department of canonical would normally also like to hear about that [16:57] Flannel: anyway with "they'll find out one way or another", i meant to say that, if they don't paste all the five lines of -a but just two of them, then 5 minutes later they'll paste their entire xorg.conf [16:58] so if someone doesn't know they should use the pastebin, it's even better they start finding out while pasting something small [17:42] In #ubuntu, d-b said: ubottu: ufw is ubuntu or uncomplicated firewall. see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuFirewall . there is also gufw. [17:43] In ubottu, d-b said: ubottu: ufw is ubuntu or uncomplicated firewall. see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuFirewall . there is also gufw. [17:44] * Flannel is the reason for the double post [17:51] !ufw [17:51] Sorry, I don't know anything about ufw [17:56] Good morning, afternoon or evening. [17:56] Howdy genii [17:56] Hallo [17:57] I'm on today with Konversation but tonight after work I'll return for more irssi practice... [17:57] ;) [17:58] Heh ;) [18:00] genii: You don't have to switch. [18:00] genii: Obi-wan never told you what happened to your father. [18:01] PriceChild: I figure I should probably know how it works anyways since the scripting features which make moderating easier, etc [18:01] Pici: Yes, he was a fellow full of secrets === tritium_ is now known as tritium [18:03] genii: time so far been at all eventful? [18:04] PriceChild: As far as moderating #kubuntu , no. One fellow spamming some which I thnk mneptok took care of [18:04] Good good. [18:04] They are generally well behaved in there :) [18:23] genii: indeed, :D thats why I prefer the kubuntu channels, less ops calls ;) [18:24] How often does a mass bot attack like yesterday happen ? [18:27] genii: In #ubuntu? [18:27] depends on how evil the spammers are feeling [18:28] Pici: Yeah there were what looked like maybe 6-10 different sites with botname variations [18:28] Hmm [18:29] genii: Not too often, but often enough that we have the floodbots in place to handle mass joins and such. [18:30] OK [18:47] widely depends on the time of the year, mostly [18:50] !eee is eeepc [18:50] I'll remember that, Mez [18:51] * Mez is surprised it doesnt have info about nbr [18:54] o_O [18:54] my eeePC isnt booting [18:55] ah, left it on and knocked out power cable :D [18:56] hehe [19:05] In #ubuntu-offtopic, magnetron said: !aubade is snuxoll: elephant penis <3 [19:06] hi kids [19:07] magnetron appears to be going off the rails [19:07] In #ubuntu-offtopic, magnetron said: !elephant is snuxoll: elephant penis <3 [19:08] In #ubuntu-offtopic, aubade said: !magnetron is goodjobgoodjobgoodjobgoodjobgoodjob [19:10] * Mez rolls eyes [19:11] * Mez wonders how the research team into FSOE is getting on [19:11] next time short ban, can't lead them to believe they can get this cruft through [20:38] In ubottu, Ktron_ said: rickroll is Never gonna give you up! [20:38] !botabuse > ktron_ (ktron_, see the private message from Ubotu) [20:56] maestrolinux has been popping in and out of Ubuntu IRC channels and link spamming. He was just in #ubuntu-server. [20:56] Riddell banned him in #kubuntu-devel, but I guess it needs doing on a wider basis. [20:56] ScottK: klined, thanks [20:57] Thank you. [20:58] np [23:26] In ubottu, Some_Person said: ffmpeg is a cross-platform command line video encoder for linux. To install, type "sudo apt-get install ffmpeg". For help, type "ffmpeg -h" [23:59] In ubottu, drog said: ubottu, is there a god?