| apachelogger | blizzz: TBH, in order to fix stuff in KDE you just need to have a text editor, the knowledge how to use google and a lot of time ;-) | 01:08 |
|---|---|---|
| apachelogger | poking code with code snippets might not be very productive but certainly works :P | 01:08 |
| blizzz | apachelogger: my eyes are two big question marks | 01:08 |
| apachelogger | perfect | 01:08 |
| blizzz | what do you point at? | 01:09 |
| apachelogger | blizzz: whether C++ knowledge is still required for doing some Kubuntu magic | 01:09 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: I will sneak a patch to increase kopenwithdialog's reliability in my kde4libs upload | 01:10 |
| apachelogger | currently it creates KService objects using findByName, which fails for a lot of apps | 01:11 |
| persia | apachelogger, One doesn't need C++ to cherrypick, but it can help when upstream is inactive. I know I learned it because I needed to port an app and upstream said "Oh, I'l probably get to it in a couple years". | 01:12 |
| blizzz | apachelogger: i will tell that as side note ;) | 01:12 |
| apachelogger | persia: yeah, I am learning C++ so I can rewrite KDE's help center one day :) | 01:13 |
| apachelogger | horrible application right now | 01:13 |
| persia | heh. Best way to learn is to be motivated to fix something :) | 01:14 |
| apachelogger | blizzz: perfect, and recruit me some minions :P | 01:14 |
| blizzz | i don't even know what this word mean in german | 01:15 |
| blizzz | ah Diener | 01:16 |
| blizzz | get Carlos | 01:16 |
| apachelogger | lol | 01:16 |
| === akonadi is now known as nihui | ||
| a|wen | where should icons for kde4 apps be put ... in /usr/share/icons/hicolor* or in someplace else also | 02:10 |
| a|wen | ? | 02:11 |
| Hobbsee | a|wen: #ubuntu-motu should be reasonably desktop-agnostic - but a lot of people don't know kdepackaging in there. | 02:19 |
| a|wen | Hobbsee: there seemed to be around the same amount of life (eg. chance of an answer) in both channels | 02:20 |
| Hobbsee | a|wen: that's true. particularly depends on when you ask, too. | 02:21 |
| a|wen | he, true enough | 02:21 |
| persia | Doesn't KDE4 just look in the standard XDG locations for icons? | 02:22 |
| apachelogger | a|wen: depends on the icons really | 02:23 |
| apachelogger | the application's icon always goes to hicolor | 02:24 |
| a|wen | apachelogger: it is the applications main icon (to be seen in the application launcher) | 02:24 |
| apachelogger | icons which are only used/of use for the app itself usually go to share/kde4/apps/APPNAME/icons/ | 02:24 |
| apachelogger | though they can as well go to hicolor | 02:24 |
| apachelogger | a|wen: hicolor then | 02:25 |
| a|wen | apachelogger: seems the application launcher doesn't pick them up though | 02:26 |
| apachelogger | a|wen: KDE 4 application? | 02:26 |
| a|wen | yeah ... kvkbd | 02:26 |
| apachelogger | hm | 02:26 |
| apachelogger | kquitapp plasma && plasma& | 02:27 |
| a|wen | apachelogger: i tried to logout/login again | 02:28 |
| apachelogger | hmmm | 02:28 |
| apachelogger | a|wen: are you sure the name in the desktop file matches the icon name? | 02:28 |
| a|wen | apachelogger: it does | 02:31 |
| apachelogger | very odd | 02:32 |
| apachelogger | a|wen: can you upload the icon and desktop file somewhere | 02:33 |
| a|wen | apachelogger: was just going to | 02:34 |
| a|wen-intrepid | apachelogger: the .desktop file: http://paste.ubuntu.com/59091/ | 02:36 |
| a|wen-intrepid | apachelogger: and this is the location of the icon files: http://paste.ubuntu.com/59092/ | 02:38 |
| apachelogger | a|wen: try a new user | 02:39 |
| a|wen | apachelogger: not any better :/ | 02:43 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: uploaded kde4libs | 02:44 |
| apachelogger | a|wen: technically it should work, are the permissions of the icon files correct? | 02:44 |
| a|wen | apachelogger: 644 root:root in all cases (i suppose this is right) | 02:47 |
| apachelogger | meh | 02:48 |
| apachelogger | a|wen: no idea then | 02:48 |
| apachelogger | in theory it should be working | 02:48 |
| a|wen | apachelogger: strange ... it uses the icon to bounce up/down when i start the app; but can't display it still | 02:50 |
| apachelogger | hm, maybe a caching issue | 02:50 |
| a|wen | apachelogger: didn't we have a problem with the konversation icon not showing in certain cases? | 02:53 |
| apachelogger | that was due to konversation not being stored in /kde4 | 02:53 |
| apachelogger | kvkbd on the other hand is | 02:54 |
| a|wen-intrepid | apachelogger: if i add konveration to favorites it doesn't show a correct icon <-- same for you? | 02:55 |
| a|wen-intrepid | i suppose this could be the reason for it: | 02:57 |
| Hobbsee | who sponsored the kdebase-workspace change? | 02:57 |
| a|wen-intrepid | wrong size -> /usr/share/icons/hicolor/32x32/apps/konversation.png: PNG image data, 31 x 31, 8-bit/color RGBA, non-interlaced | 02:57 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell! | 02:58 |
| vorian | evening | 03:23 |
| nixternal | evening to you as well good sir | 03:27 |
| apachelogger | a|wen: fix for that awaits approval | 03:28 |
| a|wen | apachelogger: okay ... then i'll stay away from that :) | 03:29 |
| * vorian thinks apachelogger never sleeps | 03:32 | |
| apachelogger | sleep is overrated | 03:34 |
| * a|wen will go to sleep | 03:34 | |
| vorian | ha | 03:35 |
| a|wen | i can sleep an hour extra for you apachelogger ;) | 03:35 |
| vorian | congrats on your membership a|wen :) | 03:35 |
| a|wen | thx vorian :) | 03:35 |
| apachelogger | a|wen: very nice, thank you ;-) | 03:35 |
| a|wen | night everyone, see you tomorrow | 03:36 |
| vorian | nn | 03:36 |
| nixternal | apachelogger: what is top of the agenda right now? | 03:53 |
| apachelogger | nixternal: getting lang packs fixed ;-) | 03:54 |
| apachelogger | and bug triage, as always | 03:54 |
| nixternal | do we have a list of "must fix now" bugs? | 03:55 |
| apachelogger | not really, just check out the once targeted for 8.10 | 04:00 |
| nixternal | roger that | 04:03 |
| nixternal | kile in svn actually builds and runs | 04:57 |
| nixternal | impressive..however it is very rough | 04:58 |
| ScottK-palm | nixternal: How's your dbus? | 04:58 |
| nixternal | not as good as my udev or hal :P | 04:58 |
| nixternal | what's up? | 04:58 |
| nixternal | I have been up to my kneck writing some code around udev and hal for our appliance at work...what a headache that has been | 04:59 |
| ScottK-palm | There's a guidance-power-manager bug I could use some help on. | 04:59 |
| ScottK-palm | Back in a second with the number. | 04:59 |
| ScottK-palm | nixternal: Bug 277678 | 05:00 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 277678 in guidance-power-manager "Using Adept, upgrade - python2.5 crashed with DBusException in call_blocking()" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/277678 | 05:00 |
| nixternal | ya, I get that damn thing all of the time...I can take a gander at that | 05:00 |
| ScottK-palm | I don't get that one. | 05:02 |
| nixternal | maybe this isn't the one I get...must be another 2.5 one that I have ignored for the time being as I have already commented on it | 05:03 |
| ScottK-palm | Which? | 05:03 |
| Hobbsee | txwikinger: your bugfix has been accepted, but has failed on lpia. | 05:07 |
| txwikinger | ichthux? | 05:07 |
| Hobbsee | as did ppx | 05:08 |
| Hobbsee | ppc | 05:08 |
| Hobbsee | yes | 05:08 |
| Hobbsee | and sparc. | 05:08 |
| ScottK-palm | A lot of kde is broken on lpia and all of it on hppa. | 05:08 |
| Hobbsee | ScottK-palm: nah, it's a broken rules file | 05:09 |
| ScottK-palm | Ah. | 05:09 |
| txwikinger | hmm. I have to look into that then | 05:09 |
| Hobbsee | txwikinger: ah. you don't have all the files for all the architectures in the source directory. | 05:10 |
| Hobbsee | you've got 4 desktop-<flavour>, but 6 live-recommends-<flavour>, and no mention of lpia anywhere | 05:10 |
| Hobbsee | etc | 05:10 |
| txwikinger | ok.. I will have a look | 05:11 |
| * txwikinger tries to figure out how to test userconfig within systemsettings | 05:11 | |
| ScottK-palm | Hobbsee: Please beat nixternal with your stick until he fixes my Guidance bug. | 05:15 |
| ScottK-palm | See you all later. | 05:15 |
| Hobbsee | heh | 05:15 |
| Hobbsee | cya | 05:15 |
| nixternal | ScottK: looks like the GetAllProperties call in powermanage.py needs to be in a try: except: | 05:26 |
| nixternal | !pastebin | 05:27 |
| ubottu | pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic) | 05:27 |
| nixternal | ScottK: http://paste.ubuntu.com/59141/ | 05:32 |
| jussi01 | rgreening: now you are a member, you get specialness like a cloak :) | 06:14 |
| Hobbsee | prepare to be spammed! | 06:15 |
| Hobbsee | another thing kubuntu has, but ubuntu doesn't by deafult. http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/14514/ | 06:31 |
| rgreening | 42 | 07:14 |
| NCommander | rgreening, its 47 now once you correct for inflation | 07:14 |
| rgreening | lol | 07:15 |
| rgreening | It's the answer, but what it the question? | 07:15 |
| rgreening | Dirk Gently knows | 07:15 |
| rgreening | I lost you probably huh? Read Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy (Douglas Adams) | 07:17 |
| NCommander | rgreening, no, I read it | 07:31 |
| NCommander | You didn't get the 47 ;-) | 07:31 |
| NCommander | In Star Trek, its the answer corrected for inflation | 07:31 |
| jussi01 | Just finished my intrepid upgrade from hardy! | 07:52 |
| jussi01 | worked suprisingly well considering I had all sorts of weird stuff installed, the kubuntu members repo etc | 07:52 |
| === eagles is now known as eagles0513875 | ||
| NCommander | Riddell, ping | 11:08 |
| Riddell | hi NCommander | 11:10 |
| Riddell | jussi01: any problems? | 11:10 |
| jussi01 | Riddell: a few, x didnt start and I had to reconfigure and reinstall fglrx, lost all my konq bookmarks, (thank god for backups) and a few other configs | 11:12 |
| jussi01 | Riddell: regarding bug 281808 - Ive added a whole lot of info and done some debugging with crimsun but still stumped on that. | 11:14 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 281808 in kdebase "Flashplugin not working in Konqueror (8.10)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/281808 | 11:14 |
| Riddell | flash can be nasty | 11:19 |
| seaLne | interesting update-manager fails on my machine at home complaining about needing way too much disk space in /boot :( | 11:19 |
| NCommander | Riddell, can I steal you for an upload of linux-lpia in one or two hours? | 11:19 |
| seaLne | so unfortunatly not just a fluke at work | 11:20 |
| Riddell | seaLne: make sure you report a bug about that and attach /var/log/dist-upgrade/* | 11:22 |
| seaLne | yeah just trying to find the bug i reported last time | 11:22 |
| seaLne | #264282 | 11:22 |
| Riddell | then poke mvo politely | 11:23 |
| a|wen | crappy kde icon cache not updating itself ... that's why things doesn't seem to work right | 11:25 |
| a|wen | Riddell: i have an update to kvkbd including icons ready for you in 10 minutes? ... no more missing icons on a default kubuntu install | 11:26 |
| Riddell | a|wen: does smarter know? | 11:31 |
| * smarter waves | 11:32 | |
| a|wen | hi smarter :) | 11:32 |
| smarter | what's your update? | 11:32 |
| a|wen | it's simply adding some icons to kvkbd | 11:32 |
| smarter | in the desktop file? | 11:32 |
| smarter | if so, I've fixed it in the svn | 11:32 |
| smarter | in fact, I may release Kvkbd 0.6 with tons of fixes today if the patch ossi sent me for apps-on-kdm work | 11:33 |
| a|wen | the desktop files already mentions icons ... but there isn't any installed or in the package | 11:33 |
| smarter | a|wen: shouldn't be needed, it uses an oxygen icon | 11:33 |
| smarter | (which is a standard fd.o icon name afaik) | 11:33 |
| a|wen | smarter: ahh, cool (that is someting new then, i suppose= | 11:34 |
| a|wen | ? | 11:34 |
| smarter | don't remember how it was in 0.5.99 :P | 11:34 |
| smarter | there's a package on my ppa if you want to test | 11:34 |
| a|wen | smarter: i'll give it a spin and see if it looks good :) | 11:35 |
| smarter | also, once 0.6 is released I'll try to plasmoidify Kvkbd :) | 11:37 |
| a|wen | uhh ... we also need a good keyboard for the touchscreens | 11:39 |
| smarter | well, kvkbd should work on touchscreens | 11:40 |
| a|wen | of course ... but it needs to be über-cool as well | 11:41 |
| smarter | that's why I make it a plasmoid :P | 11:41 |
| smarter | then we can have themes and stuff | 11:41 |
| smarter | and rotated keyboard \o/ | 11:41 |
| smarter | (not sure if that word exists :p) | 11:41 |
| a|wen | just my point | 11:42 |
| a|wen | :) | 11:42 |
| a|wen | smarter: svn snapshop seems to look good ... if you have anything else you need tested regarding it, just throw a msg | 11:49 |
| mornfall | --> Seoul. Don't forget to hit on new Adept... ; - ) | 12:21 |
| apachelogger | argh | 12:23 |
| apachelogger | does hunters are killin animals again | 12:23 |
| apachelogger | there goes the good mood | 12:24 |
| apachelogger | "write the root password down" | 13:18 |
| * apachelogger rofls | 13:18 | |
| apachelogger | http://www.linux.com/feature/150427 | 13:18 |
| apachelogger | kick ass | 13:18 |
| Riddell | that highlights why sudo is superior | 13:20 |
| apachelogger | hm, "root password, a great security measure, one reason linux tends to be more secure than other operating systems" | 13:23 |
| apachelogger | something is wrong here | 13:23 |
| * apachelogger likes robin's videos | 13:24 | |
| Riddell | opensuse has a tickbox on its installed now "set root password to same as user password" | 13:24 |
| apachelogger | 1:44 2nd video awesome statement | 13:26 |
| * a|wen wonders how they managed to make kde4 look so non-polished | 13:28 | |
| apachelogger | just like suse did | 13:29 |
| * apachelogger is worrid about the install/remove issues in mandriva | 13:29 | |
| * apachelogger rsyncs CD and checks intrepid | 13:29 | |
| Riddell | install remove issues? | 13:31 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: watch the second video | 13:31 |
| a|wen | mandriva 2009 = wait till 2009, then we might have fixed it | 13:33 |
| * apachelogger is wondering how mandriva is making money with that kind fo issues :| | 13:35 | |
| Riddell | what makes you think they make money? | 13:35 |
| apachelogger | the fact that they employ people :P | 13:36 |
| apachelogger | oh, rsync almost finished, time to start xvm | 13:36 |
| Riddell | wow, this is quite harsh | 13:37 |
| seele | hmm.. wonder what robertknight wanted | 13:42 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: why is ubiquity not using oxygen? | 13:43 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: widget theme? because nobody ported it to pykde | 13:43 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: interestingly, it magically switches to oxygen theme by the end | 13:43 |
| apachelogger | Oo | 13:43 |
| apachelogger | needs to be done for jaunty | 13:44 |
| apachelogger | pretty weird looking | 13:44 |
| Riddell | yes, it's not hard at all, just takes somebody to do it | 13:45 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: it's in a bzr branch? | 13:46 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: lp:ubiquity I expect | 13:46 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: and no it won't get into intrepid :) | 13:46 |
| apachelogger | I already exchanged the icons :P | 13:47 |
| Riddell | we miss the "log in automatically" tickbox that ubuntu has and I was never told about | 13:47 |
| apachelogger | makes it only halfbad | 13:47 |
| * Riddell watches apachelogger turn into a python programmer | 13:47 | |
| apachelogger | oh my | 13:47 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: btw, some german magazines consider autologin a security issue | 13:48 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: it's a non-security feature surely | 13:48 |
| apachelogger | *nod* | 13:48 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: we should include an image selector | 13:49 |
| Riddell | image selector? | 13:49 |
| apachelogger | now that KDM uses the user's image resource we could provide a selection already at installation | 13:49 |
| apachelogger | "user pic chooser" | 13:50 |
| Riddell | mm, that might be fun, so long as it doesn't get in the way | 13:50 |
| seele | apachelogger: user pic is a functional requirement in the new user admin tool | 13:51 |
| apachelogger | seele: user admin tool? | 13:51 |
| seele | i wonder if it would make sense to put the functionality in both places | 13:51 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: maybe a box like in systemsetttings -> about me | 13:51 |
| seele | apachelogger: yeah, TT was working with some UI designers and ME convinced them to do some pro bono work with KUP | 13:51 |
| apachelogger | oh, nice :D | 13:51 |
| seele | apachelogger: so they are designing a new KUser and i assume ME is going to find someone to implement it | 13:51 |
| seele | it's going slowly though, so probably not until 4.3, but it will exist eventually | 13:52 |
| seele | there is also an interest in a new kpackagekit ui ;P | 13:52 |
| Riddell | txwikinger was looking at user config porting | 13:52 |
| apachelogger | a lot of people were looking into porting | 13:52 |
| apachelogger | then again user config didn't work very well | 13:52 |
| Riddell | kpackagekit seems to have been added to the 4.2 feature plan | 13:52 |
| a|wen | it wasn't the best ... but at least the user config was better than the gnome/ubuntu equivalent IMO (missed functional group assignments totally) | 13:56 |
| apachelogger | ohhh | 14:02 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: ubiquity has a static style defintion | 14:02 |
| apachelogger | http://aplg.kollide.net/images/osiris/snapshot164.png | 14:02 |
| apachelogger | one line change | 14:02 |
| persia | Riddell, re: log-in-automatically : you'll want to get user-setup-apply (in user-setup) to work with kdm as a preliminary step, before trying to adjust ubiquity. | 14:08 |
| txwikinger | seele: If you need someone to implement it, I am interested | 14:10 |
| txwikinger | Hi blizzz | 14:19 |
| ScottK | nixternal: So you think the Guidance thing is yet another symptom of HAL gone missing (catching up from your paste of last night)? | 14:21 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: mmm, really? | 14:23 |
| Riddell | persia: yeah I know | 14:23 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: self.app = QApplication(['ubiquity', '-style=plastique']) | 14:24 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: what would be the best way to start porting? | 14:24 |
| Riddell | it was forced to plastique I guess when pyqt-dbus didn't work with oxygen, they shouldn't affect it any more | 14:25 |
| Riddell | so that should be safe to fix, I guess you could ask evand and/or cjwatson if they have an opinion about letting that change in | 14:25 |
| Riddell | porting to pykde certainly won't get in intrepid but you just need to find a pykde template and copy over the bits | 14:26 |
| Riddell | KAboutData, kCmdLineargs, s/QApplication/KApplication/ | 14:27 |
| * Riddell coming live from mandriva | 14:27 | |
| Riddell | start openoffice -> crash screen | 14:27 |
| Riddell | I wonder why they don't use kickoff, they did in kde 3 times | 14:29 |
| Riddell | hey Sime, we're turning apachelogger into a pykde programmer :) | 14:29 |
| Sime | cool. and what is he going to do first? | 14:29 |
| Riddell | port ubiquity to pykde from pyqt | 14:30 |
| Sime | what does ubiquity do again? | 14:31 |
| Riddell | kubuntu installer | 14:31 |
| * Sime is busy with Marble Python bindings. | 14:31 | |
| Riddell | that'll cause renewed calls for marble in ubiquity :) | 14:31 |
| * Riddell lunches | 14:31 | |
| * txwikinger is looking for kcmshell4 documentation | 14:36 | |
| a|wen | ScottK: i took a quick look at the guidance bug ... you already have patched it to catch this exception; and it shouldn't be able to happen anymore (at least not with that exact backtrace, and all the duplicates had the same trace) | 14:37 |
| ScottK | a|wen: OK. Thanks. I guess the one comment that they still had the problem was likely someone who didn't have the current one then. | 14:40 |
| * ScottK decides to wait and see then. | 14:40 | |
| a|wen | ScottK: yeah, i suppose so ... you could throw a comment, that if he still gets an apport popup, we would like him to complete it to get his traceback | 14:42 |
| apachelogger | hm | 14:51 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: how do I debug ubiquity? | 14:51 |
| apachelogger | not very chatty that app | 14:52 |
| NCommander | apachelogger, very painfully | 14:52 |
| apachelogger | oh noes | 14:53 |
| * apachelogger should have ported it to ruby first :P | 14:53 | |
| txwikinger | well python has a logger library | 14:59 |
| apachelogger | how to use that? | 14:59 |
| txwikinger | import it and set it up | 15:01 |
| txwikinger | then you can put log statements in the code | 15:01 |
| txwikinger | apachelogger: http://docs.python.org/lib/module-logging.html | 15:03 |
| txwikinger | apachelogger: http://www.red-dove.com/python_logging.html | 15:03 |
| ScottK | Riddell: Just upgraded the kid's computer to KDE 3.5.10 with no problems. | 15:08 |
| ScottK | a|wen: Mentioning the maintainer change in debian/changelog is not needed. It's actually actively discouraged these days. | 15:13 |
| a|wen | ScottK: okay ... i just use the update-maintainer script from ubuntu-dev-tools, thinking that was current policy | 15:16 |
| ScottK | a|wen: Grab the one from Intrepid. It won't do that. | 15:16 |
| ScottK | Not a big deal. Just FYI. | 15:16 |
| a|wen | ScottK: okay, it is a rather recent change ... i'll just delete the entries in the changelog from now on | 15:18 |
| nixternal | ScottK: yes, seems like HAL may be missing, or it is making the wrong DBus call | 15:50 |
| ScottK | nixternal: a|wen looked at it some more and he thinks it won't get there anymore if HAL is missing. If it's the wrong DBus call though ... | 15:51 |
| ScottK | nixternal: Any idea what a right one would be? | 15:51 |
| nixternal | I would have to take a look a little more which I can do | 15:52 |
| nixternal | dbus.exceptions.DBusException: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.UnknownMethod: Method"FindDeviceByCapability" with signature "s" on interface "org.freedesktoph.Hal.Manager" doesn't exist | 16:18 |
| nixternal | looks like the problem is deeper | 16:18 |
| nixternal | heh, I found out the problem...I can't type | 16:21 |
| nixternal | but if I debug while up, it doesn't crash out | 16:21 |
| Riddell | ScottK: yay | 17:00 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: ubiquity outputs to /var/log/installer/something or /var/log/syslog | 17:01 |
| claydoh | am I reading this right:http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-3.5.10-updates | 17:15 |
| claydoh | 3.5.10 in Intrepid's | 17:15 |
| Riddell | no in hardy | 17:16 |
| claydoh | "The latest KDE 3 bug-fix release 3.5.10 has moved to the updates section of Kubuntu 8.10." | 17:16 |
| claydoh | I am sure there are couple of mail list/forum posters who might get a bit excited over that :) | 17:18 |
| Riddell | claydoh: fixed | 17:18 |
| Riddell | yes, they might get the wrong message | 17:19 |
| claydoh | :) | 17:19 |
| Riddell | claydoh: did you see the meeting yesterday? | 17:19 |
| claydoh | I am catching up on that now :) | 17:19 |
| claydoh | from logs | 17:19 |
| * claydoh apoolgizes for having to work :) it always gets in my way | 17:20 | |
| claydoh | I am making a list of questions/concerns I have picked up | 17:23 |
| claydoh | but very little yet on upgrade issues as not many have done that yet | 17:23 |
| claydoh | I haven't yet as my hardy box is still dead | 17:24 |
| jussio1 | *cry* my upgraded system has pretty much died... wonder what I did wrong... | 17:28 |
| Tm_T | awww | 17:29 |
| jussio1 | Tm_T: most programs dont start, Im lucky to have konsole | 17:29 |
| Tm_T | ouch | 17:31 |
| Tm_T | jussio1: well I'm in between of trunk and 4.1.2 so some stuff isn't working right | 17:31 |
| jussi01 | Tm_T: I figured out what it was. soon as I installed gtk-qt-engine, everything went beserk. | 17:35 |
| Tm_T | ouch | 17:37 |
| apachelogger | hm | 17:56 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: The KDE libraries are not designed to run with suid privileges. | 17:56 |
| apachelogger | could that be the problem? | 17:56 |
| apachelogger | it's quitting right after that :S | 17:56 |
| apachelogger | interesting enough that nothing in usr/*/ubiquity got a +s | 18:14 |
| apachelogger | the good news is, adding and removing xchat actually works on kubuntu :D | 18:21 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: huh? we have lots of apps that run as root | 18:26 |
| Riddell | it works in mandriva too for me | 18:27 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: that output is uber strange, according to my research a normal user couldn't start an app if it got +s | 18:27 |
| apachelogger | works as sudo | 18:27 |
| apachelogger | thing is, I even start ubiquity from a root prompt | 18:28 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: according to strace it exists right after it writes that suid warning | 18:32 |
| apachelogger | open("/root/.kde/share/config/kdeglobals", O_RDONLY|O_LARGEFILE) = -1 EACCES (Permission denied) | 18:32 |
| apachelogger | Oo | 18:32 |
| apachelogger | seriously | 18:33 |
| apachelogger | something is very very very very very wrong here | 18:34 |
| apachelogger | I just -R 777'ed .kde | 18:35 |
| apachelogger | still permission denied | 18:35 |
| yuriy | apachelogger: don't know what the conversation is about, but is selinux or similar (apparmor?) enabled? that can cause weird permissions problems | 19:09 |
| Riddell | anyone tried the new language packs? | 21:57 |
| smarter | Riddell: they should fix the missing i18ns? | 22:02 |
| Riddell | smarter: hope so | 22:07 |
| smarter | cool :) | 22:07 |
| smarter | I'll test tomorrow and report back here the results | 22:07 |
| smarter | the French team have achieved 100% localized strings, so it should be easily noticable :) | 22:08 |
| txwikinger | KDE needs some better documentation! | 22:26 |
| Riddell | txwikinger: I'm sure the docs team would glady accept your help :) | 22:27 |
| txwikinger | I was asking for that, right? | 22:27 |
| txwikinger | Well.. if I figure it out, I will document it :D | 22:28 |
| Riddell | nixternal: a volunteer for you! | 22:28 |
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| a|wen | Riddell: yay ... the new lang-packs has a lot more danish translations in kde :) | 22:46 |
| Riddell | phew | 22:48 |
| a|wen | we were getting awfully close to release | 22:50 |
| * a|wen wonders why it is so hard getting the right things to crash once the -dbg package is installed | 22:54 | |
| txwikinger | I had hoped KDE4 would survive my stress tests better than KDE3.. so far I do not see a difference | 22:54 |
| txwikinger | Re-login took 25 mins with load of >100 | 22:55 |
| txwikinger | I think my expectations are too high | 22:56 |
| txwikinger | apachelogger: I have a nice bug for you Bug #285668 :D | 23:07 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 285668 in kdebase "[intrepid] In konqueror rendered often appears in status line and scroll bar" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/285668 | 23:07 |
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