[00:19] <DCPom> i have two partitions of x/ubuntu, how can i choose which one is default?
[00:30] <zoredache> what do you mean, default?
[00:30] <zoredache> how are you switching between them right now?
[01:43] <gometz> i'm having a problem... my task bar disappeared & i don't know how it happened or how to get it back
[01:43] <Odd-rationale> gometz: try alt+f2 and run xfce4-panel
[01:44] <gometz> i'm guessing that should go into the start scripts?
[01:44] <Odd-rationale> did that get your panels back?
[01:44] <gometz> yes it did, ty :)
[01:45] <Odd-rationale> i think something got messed up with your sessions file...
[01:48]  * ball still doesn't really understand sessions.
[01:49] <gometz> probably like a browser session <.<
[01:49] <ball> Browser sessions don't persist across reboots though.
[01:51] <ball> hello DCPom
[01:51] <DCPom> heya ball
[01:57] <ecksii> Howdy
[01:57] <DCPom> hey
[01:57] <ecksii> Anyone have experience with Xubuntu 8.04 and the Asus Eee?
[01:59] <DCPom> !help
[02:01] <ecksii> !eee no network
[02:01] <ecksii> !eee no eth0
[02:02] <ecksii> !eee eth0
[02:02] <gometz> any idea what package chkconfig might be in?
[02:02] <Odd-rationale> !botabuse
[02:02] <Odd-rationale> :P
[02:02] <ecksii> no
[02:02] <ecksii> np
[02:21] <ecksii> I'm having trouble getting wired networking going on an Asus eee with Xubuntu 8.04
[02:22] <ecksii> (The bot's not helping)
[02:48] <ecksii> Looks like xubuntu and the eee are not meant to work together.
[04:30] <xn00b> Hi all
[04:33] <xn00b> Can anybody direct me to some good tuts for setting up networking in xubuntu?
[04:45] <dakun> anyone here?
[04:46] <xn00b> They do suggest patience in here, im waiting too :-)
[04:46] <dakun> oh, i wasnt being impatient, i was just trying to stur responses
[04:46] <xn00b> ok
[04:47] <dakun> umm, for xubuntu 8.10, will it have xfce 4.6.x on it?
[04:47] <xn00b> mission accomplished :-)
[04:47] <dakun> yup
[04:47] <xn00b> do you happen to know of tutorials for getting one's network up and running in xubuntu?
[04:48] <xn00b> it's not native in the Thunar file manager
[04:49] <dakun> umm, if you use samba you can just use the samba, i use smbmount and point it to ~/../share and mount the shared folders from the other computers to those folders. the only drawback i see is that when the other computer isnt connected it laggs the file manager
[04:50] <dakun> i havent figured out how the whole permissions thing work with passworded accounts
[04:50] <xn00b> aha, ok.. thanks for the tip anyway
[04:50] <dakun> np
[04:50] <dakun> umm, for xubuntu 8.10, will it have xfce 4.6.x on it?
[04:51] <xn00b> i cannot answer that question unfortunatly
[04:51] <dakun> damn
[04:51] <dakun> its kinda the only reason i want to update to intrepid
[04:51] <xn00b> ok, I'm a complete newbie
[04:52] <dakun> all the package updates will work for hardy for another year after so i dont want to waste another disc
[04:52] <xn00b> just went from ubuntu --> to xubuntu
[04:52] <dakun> ah
[04:52] <dakun> well im gonna stop using e17 for a while, wait for them to ad some stuff and then check it out again
[04:54] <dakun> i like xubuntu
[04:54] <dakun> less extra stuff that i dont use, granted that there is still stuff like that in there
[04:54] <xn00b> me to, it's much faster on the laptop Im using
[04:55] <xn00b> but a major con with the lack of browsing ones network
[04:55] <dakun> yup, xfce 4.6 is supposed to be even faster
[04:55] <dakun> ues samba
[04:55] <dakun> use'
[04:55] <xn00b> like, for music, video etc
[04:55] <dakun> oh
[04:55] <dakun> just use the bookmark side bar
[04:55] <xn00b> ok, the "server"  have is a Synology NAS
[04:55] <dakun> what?
[04:56] <xn00b> it's does not run Samba
[04:56] <xn00b> but I think it runs windows type of shares.
[04:56] <dakun> oh, your running a xubuntu server, not desktop
[04:56] <dakun> right?
[04:57] <xn00b> no, I'm writing from a xubuntu laptop right now.. and want to gain access to my NAS (synology)
[04:57] <xn00b> on the network
[04:58] <dakun> i have no idea what a NAS synology is
[04:58] <eirehac1> network-attached storage
[04:58] <xn00b> sorry,   NAS (network area storage)   Synology is the brand
[04:58] <xn00b> attached yes
[04:58] <dakun> i see
[04:59] <eirehac1> xn00b: do you have NFS enabled
[05:00] <dakun> have you enabled nfs settings
[05:00] <dakun> agh
[05:00] <dakun> beat me too it
[05:00] <eirehac1> haha sorry bout that, ill be quiet. :/ heh
[05:00] <xn00b> oh, probably now :-)
[05:00] <dakun> its ok, the more help the better
[05:00] <dakun> http://www.synology.com/enu/support/releaseNote/NFS_note.pdf
[05:00] <xn00b> excellect.. thanks
[05:00] <dakun> np
[05:01] <eirehac1> haha good point
[05:01] <dakun> http://www.synology.at/enu/forum/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=6642&p=31518
[05:01] <xn00b> I'm trying to get my linux chops together
[05:01] <xn00b> thanks dakun
[05:01] <dakun> np
[05:01] <xn00b> nfs vs. smb   who's the winner?
[05:02] <dakun> idk if that leads to it working but it might point in the right direction
[05:02] <dakun> idk
[05:02] <mconway88> nfs! :D
[05:02] <dakun> nfs...
[05:02] <xn00b> ok mconway88 , is it because it is more transparent?
[05:02] <mconway88> http://www.freeporndumpster.com/images/0841283/whaletail0023.jpg
[05:03] <xn00b> small networks it should be ok i guess.  but larger ones with  security stuff then?...
[05:06] <dakun> personas addon for firefox
[05:06] <dakun> pretty cool
[05:06] <xn00b> what is it?
[05:06] <dakun> its a sorta themeing plugin only its kinda simplified but its still experimental
[05:07] <dakun> its still in the mozilla labs
[05:07] <xn00b> ok
[05:10] <dakun> agh, i cant do anything with gim
[05:10] <dakun> gimp'
[05:11] <XFCEntral> yeahh as much as i like the fact its free over Photoshop, it can be a bit difficult
[05:11] <dakun> a bit?
[05:11] <XFCEntral> haha may be an understatement yes
[05:11] <dakun> i havnt used it for hardly anything but a screenshot or 2
[05:12] <xn00b> I had that dilemma too..  PS is what i've worked with for years
[05:12] <XFCEntral> yeah my girlfriend likes it but i find it wastes space
[05:12] <dakun> ide rather go and download the .net and use pdn
[05:12] <xn00b> its too expensive
[05:12] <dakun> ?
[05:13] <dakun> the .net framework? expensive? did ms start charging for dowloads?
[05:13] <xn00b> no, Photoshop
[05:14] <dakun> oh
[05:14] <dakun> i like inkscape best though
[05:19] <dakun> • There is no need for users to have separate home directories on every network machine. Home directories could be set up on the NFS server and made available throughout the network.
[05:19] <dakun> oh yeah, thats definitly better then smb
[05:22] <xn00b> I'm going to split,  thanks for the help
[05:22] <dakun> np
[05:22] <dakun> cya
[05:41] <DCPom> !ftp
[05:41] <DCPom> should i install nautilus on xubuntu to connect to an FTP server?
[06:33] <JinKazama> DCPom , u can connect with ftp server from the command line
[08:34] <ciapsadm> Hi, everybody
[08:35] <ciapsadm> I have a problem with Xubuntu,
[08:36] <ciapsadm> Not detect GPS
[08:37] <ciapsadm> I put the USB cable and I shoved in my GPS and nothing appears to Xubuntu to install or configure
[08:39] <ciapsadm> Led to the GPS on, but the computer does not detect anything
[08:39] <TheSheep> ciapsadm: what program are you using to read from the gps?
[08:41] <ciapsadm> Not program
[08:42] <ciapsadm> I do not use GPS program in Xubuntu
[08:42] <TheSheep> ciapsadm: then what do you need gps for?
[08:44] <ciapsadm> I want to get some music on it, as are the card in it
[08:44] <XFCEntral> do you have a card reader?
[08:45] <ciapsadm> Not
[08:46] <XFCEntral> maybe your GPS will let you manage the music and photos on your card on the computer, but that was probably meant for Windows, or Win and Mac. :(
[08:46] <ciapsadm> How do you detect Xubuntu I connect the GPS to the computer?
[08:46] <XFCEntral> which company made your GPS unit?
[08:48] <TheSheep> ciapsadm: you can try 'lsusb' in terminal and see if it's listed
[08:48] <ciapsadm> Company is G P S
[08:48] <TheSheep> ciapsadm: also dmesg may show you some messages related to it
[08:51] <ciapsadm> XFCEntral: The problem as not windoze not go
[08:53] <ciapsadm> TheSheep: I wrote in terminal lsusb not give me anything appears
[08:54] <TheSheep> ciapsadm: then it doesn't even detect the device
[08:54] <TheSheep> ciapsadm: is it on?
[08:54] <ciapsadm> TheSheep: Look what I appear: http://www.pastebin.ca/1230012
[09:06] <tape> moro
[09:16] <Waltman15> I have a question.. Im hoping someone can answer.
[09:17] <Waltman15> Is anyone here at the moment?
[09:18] <TheSheep> !ask
[09:18] <Waltman15> Im sorry.. I was wondering if it is considered legal for me to distribute CDs with Xubuntu and Ubuntu burned on to them for the price I payed for the CD?
[09:21] <TheSheep> Waltman15: it depends on the licences of the software contined on the cd, but most of it is either GPL or BSD licence, and they permit it
[09:22] <TheSheep> Waltman15: actually, they permit you to charge any amount of money for it
[09:22] <TheSheep> Waltman15: note that I'm not a lawyer though
[09:22] <Waltman15> So if I do sell these CDs i should be in the clear legally?
[09:24] <tape> How I do this
[09:25] <Waltman15> I have to go to bed. Thanks TheSheep! I appreciate the elp!
[09:25] <Waltman15> help*
[09:46] <ciapsadm_> TheSheep
[09:47] <ciapsadm_> I managed to follow, but do not have access to the disk (card)
[09:52] <TheSheep> ciapsadm_: I don't know, maybe try googling for the model name of your device and 'ubuntu' or 'linux'
[09:54] <ciapsadm_> But I managed to follow;)
[09:54] <ciapsadm_> Just do not know why I can not change anything on the card, I do not have access
[10:24] <slow-motion> hi
[10:25] <ciapsadm_> Hi
[10:27] <jarnos> Would Skipstone be nice lightweight browser?
[10:30] <jarnos> Anybody tried midbrowser? It works in 8.10.
[10:30] <jarnos> " a mobile web browser based on Firefox"
[10:35] <jarnos> netsurf is yet another lightweight web browser; no javascript, though. People with old computers might like to know about these.
[10:56] <MadBrozzeR> Hi. Does anyone know how to make Wine understand ru_RU.UTF-8?
[10:57] <MadBrozzeR> Is there someone alive?..
[13:08] <DarkLimit> Hi guys, I installed Xubuntu and when I installed the updates  it refuses to load and takes me to a busybox screen why is that?
[13:08] <knome> DarkLimit, check that xfce session is selected at gdm login
[13:09] <DarkLimit> is this before I update it?
[13:10] <knome> DarkLimit, you do get a graphical login screen after updates?
[13:10] <DarkLimit> no none at all.....
[13:10] <DarkLimit> just a buysbox screen and nothign happens
[13:10] <DarkLimit> just sits there...
[13:11] <knome> you probably mean that it is on command line interface?
[13:11] <DarkLimit> you got it
[13:12] <DarkLimit> won't even le t em get to the logon screen
[13:12] <DarkLimit> me
[13:12] <knome> not even the CLI one?
[13:12] <DarkLimit> what you mean CLI? sorry new to this
[13:13] <knome> command line interface = cli
[13:14] <DarkLimit> it's a dos screen if thats what you mean
[13:15] <knome> yes.
[13:15] <DarkLimit> yes
[13:15] <knome> but do you get cli login?
[13:17] <DarkLimit> all it shows is the version of ubuntu and it sits at infanate command line if I spelled that correctly..
[13:18] <knome> does it say "machine-name login:" ?
[13:18] <DarkLimit> no
[13:18] <knome> ok, do you have any output on tty1 (press ctrl+alt+f1)
[13:21] <DarkLimit> I can't check I uninstalled it and am re-doing it
[13:21] <DarkLimit> and
[13:21] <knome> DarkLimit, ok, good luck with the installation this time. i hope all goes well
[13:21] <DarkLimit> but all went wrong after I did the update... I just won't update it
[13:22] <knome> yeah, and we might never get the bug fixed/problem solved...
[13:22] <knome> anyway, i will go and eat now. ->
[13:24] <DarkLimit> thanks alot
[14:22] <vidd> Odd-rationale, can you come to #xubuntu-offtopic ? i have a question about lxde in ubuntu
[15:00] <gulzar> Hi, where could i find acer-acpi and acerwificontroller packages?
[15:01] <vidd> gulzar, your running an acer computer?
[15:01] <gulzar> vidd, yes.
[15:02] <gulzar> Actually both, acer and a toshiba. Both having the same wifi problem.
[15:02] <vidd> acer-acpi is now bundled with linux kernel since 2.6.25 or 2.6.24 for Ubuntu
[15:02] <gulzar> As both have the same cards.
[15:03] <vidd> so...
[15:03] <vidd> what does lspci say the wifi card is?
[15:03] <gulzar> Linux gulzar-laptop 2.6.22-15-generic #1 SMP Wed Aug 20 18:39:13 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux
[15:03] <vidd> update your kernel =]
[15:04] <vidd> anyway....
[15:04] <vidd> about the wifi card
[15:04] <gulzar> Im on 7.10 and i have already done an upgrade.
[15:04] <gulzar> I think i have the lastest of the repository.
[15:04] <gulzar> yes
[15:05] <vidd> what does lspci say the card is?
[15:05] <gulzar> Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications, Inc. AR5006EG 802.11 b/g Wireless PCI Express Adapter (rev 01)
[15:06] <vidd> ic...
[15:06] <vidd> you should simply upgrade your kernel...reboot, and enjoy the card....
[15:07] <vidd> is aceracpi in your synaptic?
[15:08] <gulzar> There is no package by acer*
[15:08] <gulzar> vidd, So that means i got to compile it bu hand :(
[15:08] <vidd> no
[15:09]  * gulzar checks the repo
[15:09] <vidd> let me find the deb....
[15:09] <gulzar> thanks.
[15:11] <vidd> gulzar, of course, if you just upgraded to hardy (8.04.1) you would get it automatically
[15:12] <gulzar> Oh, i dont want to upgrade the distro :(
[15:13] <gulzar> vidd, I would be happy to install the deb.
[15:14] <vidd> gulzar, http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/base/ is where you find the deb's for the various kernel images
[15:15] <vidd> make sure you get all the dependencies
[15:15] <vidd> and make a back-up of your stuff before you proceed
[15:15] <gulzar> So i should not worry about that being hardy?
[15:16] <vidd> just need to upgrade
[15:17] <vidd> should be ok
[15:18] <gulzar> Thanks :)
[15:18] <gulzar> vidd, Ill look into it.
[15:51] <Odd-rationale> vidd: hey there! i just woke up... :P pm me if you wish...
[15:55] <tzolkin> Hi~~ can xubuntu install evolution?
[15:55] <TheSheep> yes
[15:57] <tzolkin> i download one, it's tar.bz2, and i don't know how to install it.
[16:01] <TheSheep> tzolkin: go to system->synaptic, search for evolution, install it
[16:01] <TheSheep> tzolkin: you don't have to download anything yourself
[16:02] <tzolkin> Ah... that's great, thank you =)
[16:47] <ciapsadm> How do I install my video card?
[16:47] <vidd> ciapsadm, which video card you got?
[16:48] <TheSheep> ciapsadm: you power off your computer, open its case, find the right slot for your card, insert it, close the case, power on the computer
[16:48] <vidd> TheSheep, i think ciapsadm means "the drivers"
[16:48] <Grey_Loki> Don't forget to connect a monitor if you want to see what you're doing
[16:49]  * Grey_Loki whistles
[16:49] <TheSheep> vidd: ah, yeah, you will need a screwdriver for that
[16:50] <vidd> ciapsadm, what video card you have?
[16:50] <ciapsadm> vidd: Via
[16:51] <knome> viae omnes romam ducunt.
[16:51] <vidd> ciapsadm, go to their website and follow the instructions
[16:52] <vidd> if its the same kinds i have, the drivers are not built into the kernal
[16:52] <vidd> but i usually get by with the vesa driver that is built in to the kernel
[16:54] <ciapsadm> Exactly what should I do?
[16:54] <vidd> go to via's web site
[16:54] <vidd> locate your card
[16:54] <ciapsadm> OK
[16:55] <vidd> follow the instructions on the site
[16:55] <DarkJesus> Hello
[16:55] <vidd> hello DarkJesus
[16:55] <knome> o.ó
[16:55] <DarkJesus> Erm
[16:56] <DarkJesus> What is the username and password for the live cd?
[16:56] <vidd> ubuntu and black (i beleive)
[16:56] <vidd> verify username by opening /home
[16:56] <ciapsadm> How do you see in Xubuntu what I love video
[16:58] <vidd> ciapsadm, huh???
[16:59] <ciapsadm> We came up here: http://www.viaarena.com/default.aspx?PageID=2&OSID=45
[17:00] <vidd> ok
[17:01] <vidd> click the "integrated graphics" link
[17:01] <vidd> since you want the driver for your integrated graphics card
[17:02] <vidd> DarkJesus, password is "blank" (as in there is no password)
[17:03] <charlie-tca> DarkJesus: oth, there is a 10 second timer that will count down and then it
[17:03] <charlie-tca> will log in automatically, if you wait
[17:17] <ciapsadm> I gave there on the graphic
[17:17] <vidd> ciapsadm, is this a new board?
[17:18] <ciapsadm> Yes
[17:18] <ciapsadm> Here: http://www.viaarena.com/default.aspx?PageID=2&OSID=45&CatID=3220
[17:18] <vidd> then look at the box it came in, and find the graphics card
[17:19] <vidd> OR run lspci in terminal and get the info there
[17:21] <vidd> pastebin your lspci if you want (http://pastebin.com)
[17:25] <ciapsadm> vidd: http://www.pastebin.ca/1230288
[17:26] <vidd> ciapsadm, line 25 tells you EXACTLY which driver you need to download from the site
[17:26] <ciapsadm> I need to link
[17:27] <vidd> no...you need to THINK
[17:27] <ciapsadm> Can not find
[17:27] <vidd> you gave ME the link to the page already
[17:28] <vidd> im not going to drive out to your house to int=stall it for you
[17:32] <Demios> i have question that is not xubuntu related, I just got a new laptop and it lists two hdd partitions. I'm certain there is not two hdds in here, how do I tell if it is one hdd that is partitioned?
[17:33] <vidd> Demios, does it have a "recovery" feature in windows?
[17:33] <Demios> yes
[17:34] <vidd> then the larger partition is the main hard drive, and the smaller partition is the "recovery" partition....one hard drive
[17:34] <Demios> the second hdd is empty
[17:35] <vidd> does the "recovery" thing in windows work?
[17:39] <vidd> Demios, are you saying that in windows explorer it shows 2 partitions? or in linux?
[17:52] <DCPom> can i use a 10.0.X.X local IP or do i have to use 192.168.X.X
[17:52] <vidd> DCPom, sure you can
[17:53] <DCPom> is it the same X.X because i couldn't find a 10.0.X.X in ifconfid
[17:53] <DCPom> ifconfig*
[17:53] <vidd> does your router have dhcp enabled?
[17:54] <DCPom> :\ i don't know...
[17:55] <vidd> do you know your router's IP address?
[17:55] <DCPom> yes
[17:56] <vidd> what is it
[17:56] <vidd> ?
[17:56] <DCPom> the local is 10.0.0.1
[17:57] <vidd> so you are going to set up static IP on this machine?
[17:57] <vidd> and hard-wired or wifi?
[17:57] <DCPom> yes and wifi
[17:57] <DCPom> well
[17:57] <DCPom> actually half and half
[17:58] <DCPom> because my *nix is connected via ethernet to a wireless ibook
[17:58] <vidd> so the ibook is the router
[17:58] <vidd> do you have it configured as such?
[17:59] <DCPom> i have it forwarding ethernet, so yes (i think)
[18:00] <vidd> what is its ip address?
[18:00] <vidd> for the nic card
[18:01] <DCPom> i don't understand the question, what do you mean nic card?
[18:01] <vidd> DCPom, normal configuration for internet sharing is in via lan, share via wifi
[18:02] <vidd> so what is the ip address of the ibook's lan card
[18:02] <DCPom> ah 10.0.1.5
[18:02] <vidd> so your *nix needs to have its gateway set as 10.0.1.5
[18:03] <DCPom> how do i set that?
[18:04] <jannott> Hey. I just installed xubuntu on my laptop but i cant boot up coz kernel gets stuck configuring my integrated camera(broken). Kernel just says cannot configure camera and so endlessli
[18:09] <vidd> DCPom, this might help: http://www.comptechdoc.org/os/linux/usersguide/linux_ugbasicnet.html
[18:10] <DCPom> thank you
[18:48] <kushalsejwal> ﻿I tried to boot my pc from my LiveUSB pen drive with Xubuntu 8.04 by using usb creater0.1.9. It booted but then I was not able to see GUI mode but it stared some command line which was "busy box v1.1.3 ...... build in shell..... initramfs ..." Pls help?
[18:49] <kushalsejwal> can anybody help me :(
[18:50] <vidd> kushalsejwal, can that system boot from normal livecd?
[18:50] <kushalsejwal> I havent burned the .iso yet I tried
[18:51] <vidd> how much ram?
[18:51] <kushalsejwal> vidd: xubuntu-8.04.1-desktop-i386 is what I downloaded from xubuntu site I hope its the correct live CD one
[18:53] <kushalsejwal> 512
[18:53] <vidd> if your system meets the minimal requirements, and is intel processor or AMD32 processor...should be the right image
[18:53] <kushalsejwal> vidd: I have ATI graphic card is that what creating the problem
[18:53] <vidd> quite possible
[18:53]  * vidd never uses the live cd....
[18:53] <kushalsejwal> yeah mine is 32 bit so I installed the i386 which is I gues st the right one
[18:54] <vidd> its always more trouble thenm its worth
[18:54] <kushalsejwal> I do use live CD often but I thought to try Xubuntu this time I have always use only Ubuntu or kubuntu live CDs
[18:54] <vidd> do either of those run on that system?
[18:55] <kushalsejwal> yeah they do
[18:55] <vidd> then the issue is most likely the pendrive image isnt working correctly
[18:55] <vidd> a proper live cd burn should be fine
[18:56] <kushalsejwal> vidd: actually I wanted to check it before wasting a CD that was the primary reason I tried it on pendrive but I guess I have to use a Cd for this
[18:58] <vidd> then make a testbox
[18:58] <vidd> set up qemu
[18:59] <vidd> then install the iso onto the qemu
[18:59] <kushalsejwal> qemu? testbox?
[18:59] <vidd> if it fails, the image is bad
[18:59] <vidd> !qemu
[19:00] <vidd> it will let you create a sort-off virtual machine on that system
[19:00] <kushalsejwal> okay so is it like virtual box/
[19:00] <kushalsejwal> ?
[19:00] <vidd> you mount the iso as the cdrom for the qemu environment and install
[19:00] <vidd> yes
[19:01] <kushalsejwal> okay I got it I would try it that way
[19:01] <kushalsejwal> so vidd you use xubuntu?
[19:01] <vidd> yes
[19:01] <kushalsejwal> how is it? as compared to ubuntu
[19:01] <vidd> i prefer to install from the mini iso
[19:01] <vidd> i prefer it
[19:02] <vidd> the mini iso is < 10 MB
[19:02] <vidd> only has the stuff get your network up and running....
[19:03] <kushalsejwal> oh minimal installtion I heard about it but dont konw what exactly it is would google about it
[19:03] <vidd> and you can install any and all *buntu's with the one disk
[19:03] <vidd> no...not minimal install
[19:03] <vidd> net install
[19:03] <kushalsejwal> ok through internet
[19:04] <kushalsejwal> like we install packages thru it
[19:04] <kushalsejwal> right
[19:04] <vidd> yep
[19:04] <kushalsejwal> never tried it but sounds cool ;)
[19:04] <vidd> and you can install xubuntu from it, cli-only from it, ubuntu from it, etc
[19:04] <kushalsejwal> ok
[19:05] <vidd> so which version you want? 7.04, 7.10, 8.04, 8.10?
[19:06] <vidd> they even have dapper
[19:06] <vidd> =]
[19:07] <vidd> kushalsejwal, which version?
[19:07] <vidd> so i can post the link
[19:07] <kushalsejwal> I want 8.10
[19:08] <vidd> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/intrepid/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/
[19:08] <vidd> the file is "mini.iso
[19:08] <vidd> 9.9MB
[19:09] <kushalsejwal> okay
[19:09] <kushalsejwal> so just boot the pc from this and everything is done
[19:09] <kushalsejwal> right
[19:10] <vidd> no...it will start an installer program
[19:11] <Odd-rationale> the mini.iso downloadas all the packages from the internet
[19:11] <vidd> you configure it the way you want, all the packages get downloaded off the internet rather then from the disk
[19:11] <Odd-rationale> so if you have slow internet connection, it might take a while... :P
[19:12] <kushalsejwal> okay I understud thanks buddy :)
[19:12] <Odd-rationale> the alternative cd can do a cli install as well...
[19:12] <kushalsejwal> cli?
[19:12] <Odd-rationale> command line interface
[19:13] <kushalsejwal> Odd-rationale: I got cli with the desktop Live CD as well :(
[19:13] <kushalsejwal>  ﻿Odd-rationale: ﻿I tried to boot my pc from my LiveUSB pen drive with Xubuntu 8.04 by using usb creater0.1.9. It booted but then I was not able to see GUI mode but it stared some command line which was "busy box v1.1.3 ...... build in shell..... initramfs ..." Pls help?
[19:14] <vidd> kushalsejwal, that was a failed boot....not an install
[19:14] <Odd-rationale> busybox is different than a command line install of ubuntu...
[19:17] <kushalsejwal> thanks for all the help. See you later. Bye
[19:25] <[ifrog]> Hey, vid
[19:26] <[ifrog]> vidd,
[19:26] <[ifrog]> vidd, Around?
[19:26] <vidd> [ifrog], yeah...im here
[19:27] <[ifrog]> vidd, I installed 2.6.24 and it does not work.
[19:28] <vidd> did you reboot afterwords?
[19:28] <[ifrog]> vidd, actually i listened and upgrade to hardy which came with that kernel.
[19:28] <[ifrog]> Rebooted twice.
[19:29] <[ifrog]> vidd, How do you know if that kernel really supports the hardware, is there is list somewhere?
[19:29] <vidd> now that you are on the current release you should have an easier time getting that card to work
[19:30] <[ifrog]> vidd, how is that?
[19:30] <[ifrog]> I though you said the kernel supports it by default.
[19:31] <vidd> i assumed you had instructions for getting the card to work and you needed acer-acpi to get it to work
[19:31] <vidd> acer-acpi is fully integrated into the kernel
[19:31] <[ifrog]> I read online that with acer packages it works.
[19:32] <vidd> what other acer packages are needed?
[19:32] <[ifrog]> But i still cant find that package in the hardy
[19:34] <vidd> [ifrog], http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=624959
[19:34] <vidd> turn on the restricted driver
[19:34] <[ifrog]> its on.
[19:35] <vidd> so the driver is listed as active in the restricted drivers app?
[19:35] <[ifrog]> yes, its ticked there.
[19:35] <[ifrog]> it actually did it automatically.
[19:35] <vidd> then its installed
[19:35] <[ifrog]> as i installed from the dvd.
[19:36] <[ifrog]> well iwconfig and the tray icon does not show it.
[19:36] <vidd> whats the problem then?
[19:36] <[ifrog]> the device is not created at all.
[19:36] <vidd> pastebin ifconfig for me
[19:37] <[ifrog]> ah, got to switch the internet to it, As i got only one lan cable here..
[19:37] <[ifrog]> just a sec..
[19:55] <caram3l0> hello, i'm having some problems. i was working ok on my xubuntu, then i needed to restart, when i did that, it booted again and with no internet, it is not even recognizing any wireless near. when i use the xubuntu live cd it stays ok.
[19:58] <ciapsadm> Where can I find a site with the laptop?
[19:58] <caram3l0> if i try going on my network service it doesnt even show that i have wireless connection
[20:30] <ciapsadm> How do you see someone on the web with Pidgin?
[20:40] <Odd-rationale> ciapsadm: pidgin does not yet have video support...
[20:40] <Odd-rationale> try ekiga
[20:40] <Odd-rationale> !info ekiga
[20:57] <spadewarrior> hi. does anyone know how to change the default directory on catfish?
[20:59] <MalfermitaKodo> Hi
[21:01]  * MalfermitaKodo needs some help troubleshooting a sound problem. I had it working out of the box, did some optimizations, I found in the ubuntu wiki for the Acer Aspire and now it does not work anymore... well, works like a buerocrat: you get no output even though everything seems to be fine
[21:07] <Ben_Cs> hello
[21:09] <vidd> hello Ben_Cs
[21:09] <Ben_Cs> xubuntu comes with Transmission preinstalled. For some reason, Transmission downloads A LOT slower than Deluge. Any ideas why?
[21:09] <Grey_Loki> Ben_Cs, perhaps a port forwarding issue?
[21:09] <Grey_Loki> Have you tried it with the same torrent?
[21:09] <Ben_Cs> Grey_Loki: same port same torrent
[21:09] <Grey_Loki> MalfermitaKodo, obvious things first - while you were tweaking, you didn't accidentally turn down the sound either on your laptop, or within linux anywhere?
[21:10] <vidd> what is the comand to install via apt-get to auto-include recommends?
[21:12] <MalfermitaKodo> Grey_Loki: I didn't... I checked alsamixer... and, well, I did reboot to use different kernelparameters, in case this is relevant
[21:12] <Grey_Loki> MalfermitaKodo, it could be - have you tried rebooting again and not giving the kernel parameters?
[21:13] <MalfermitaKodo> not yet... will do now
[21:25] <MalfermitaKodo> reee
[21:25] <Grey_Loki> Working?
[21:25] <MalfermitaKodo> hmmm elevator=noop should but interfere with sound but apparently does
[21:25] <MalfermitaKodo> yeah
[21:26] <Grey_Loki> That gives you something to google with, at least - I don't know anything about acer laptops, and I only know a little about linux in general
[21:34] <Linuxica> hi
[21:36] <vidd> hello Linuxica
[21:37] <Linuxica> I want to delete some files from a pendrive, using thunar, but I can't.
[21:37] <Linuxica> where I can configure that?
[21:37] <vidd> in terminal, type "sudo thunar"
[21:38] <vidd> then you have god-rights to thunar
[21:38] <vidd> you can delete anything, anywhere, without a safety net
[21:38] <vidd> (use with caution!)
[21:39] <Linuxica> I usually delete them from the terminal , con "rm"
[21:39] <Linuxica> but i'd like to delete as user
[21:39] <vidd> then chown the pen drive to the user
[21:40] <Linuxica> any time I use the pendrive?
[21:41] <vidd> yes
[21:41] <Linuxica> sorry, you're very kind but i'd like to control the pendrive as my hard disk
[21:41] <Linuxica> do you know how I can?
[21:41] <vidd> anything you write on it from that user is chowned to that user automatically
[21:42] <vidd> since the data was written elsewhere, it is chowned to a user that this computer doesnt know
[21:42] <Linuxica> yes bit it is owned by root group
[21:42] <vidd> right
[21:42] <Linuxica> I delete the files then the files are there again!!
[21:43] <vidd> because root owns everything not owned by another group
[21:43] <vidd> what file structure is the pendrive using?
[21:43] <Linuxica> fat I suppose
[21:43] <Linuxica> fat 32 or 16
[21:44] <vidd> yeah....windows
[21:44] <Linuxica> but I added a hd with ext3 and it's the same
[21:44] <vidd> you need to sudo rm [file]
[21:45] <vidd> the user cannot remove a file that they dont have permission to
[21:45] <Linuxica> No, I can delete as user from terminal
[21:45] <Linuxica> rm file
[21:45] <vidd> you JUST said, the file returned
[21:45] <Linuxica> but I can't from thunar
[21:45] <Linuxica> I can from terminal, I can't from thunar
[21:46] <Linuxica> I'm confused...
[21:46] <vidd> so am i
[21:47] <Linuxica> I don't understan very well the new fstab I used debian before.
[21:47] <vidd> if the user can remove the file in terminal, then shift+del (bypassing the trash can) should work in thunar as well
[21:48] <Linuxica> another thing, the trash in the pendrive is a hidden archive
[21:49] <Linuxica> It happens with every usb unit.
[21:49] <vidd> yeah....wich would indicate issues if you dont hold the [shift] key when you delete
[21:49] <Linuxica> de camera, de pendrive, and my ide new HD
[21:51] <Linuxica> ops... the camera.. the... sorry I'm not speak english very well
[21:51] <Linuxica> great!!
[21:51] <vidd> i knew what ya meant
[21:51] <Linuxica> shift + del works!!!
[21:52] <vidd> yes
[21:52] <Linuxica> thank you!!!!
[21:52] <Linuxica> :D
[21:52] <vidd> rm in terminal does not put stuff in trash
[21:52] <Linuxica> i know
[21:52] <vidd> trash is hidden archive so thunar cant use it
[21:52] <Linuxica> but the pendrive was fulll
[21:53] <vidd> shift-del works the same as rm in terminal
[21:53] <vidd> dont matter
[21:53] <Linuxica> I didn't knew
[21:53] <Linuxica> you're very knd to help me
[21:53] <vidd> the pendrive could have only 3kb used....
[21:53] <vidd> thunar still cannot use hidden trash archive
[21:55] <Linuxica> I like xubuntu very much
[21:56] <vidd> good to hear
[21:56] <Linuxica> I've tried another "linux systems" and by now xubuntu it's the best one
[21:56] <Linuxica> form me, ofcourse
[21:56] <Linuxica> :)
[21:57] <ciapsadm> How do subtritrarea to see more?
[21:58] <ciapsadm> In VLC
[22:01] <Linuxica> thanks for the help vidd , bye!!
[22:08] <owen1> how to make fnc+f7 (video out) work on vaio?
[22:11] <vidd> owen1, one moment
[22:13] <vidd> xrandr
[22:17] <owen1> vidd: are u talking to me (xrandr)
[22:18] <vidd> owen1, yes
[22:18] <owen1> vidd: what about xrandr? i run it and it shows me my resolution.
[22:19] <vidd> install it and the bios option works
[22:19] <owen1> vidd: i just ran it so i assume it's already installed.
[22:20] <owen1> vidd: what bios options? will i be able to do video out by changing somthing in the bios?
[22:20] <vidd> FN+[something] is a bios-enabled function
[22:21] <owen1> vidd: how do i get to the bios? rebbot and 'f8' while rebooting?
[22:21] <vidd> xrandr lets linux pass those commands to the bios so the bios does what it needs to
[22:21] <owen1> vidd: ok. i have xrandr. what is my next step?
[22:22] <vidd> use the fn+ functions
[22:22] <vidd> they should work
[22:23] <owen1> vidd: please elaborate...what is my next step? run xrandr or rebbot and going to bios?
[22:24] <vidd> there is no next step
[22:24] <vidd> as long as xrandr is installed, they keys should work
[22:25] <owen1> vidd: the brightness works (fn+f5/fn+f6) but when i connect external tv and hit fn+f7 i don't see anything on the tv.
[22:26] <vidd> is the tv set to recieve?
[22:27] <owen1> vidd: as soon as i connect my desktop to the tv, i can see the desktop on the tv. so i assume the problem is not the tv.
[22:27] <vidd> then your bios must need to enable that feature
[22:28] <vidd> well...i have to go home now
[22:28] <owen1> vidd: ok. thanks!
[22:28] <vidd> i should be back on tommorrow
[22:28] <owen1> vidd: np. thanks a lot.
[22:43] <owen1> i can't find anything in the bios..i tried 'LCD Screen Expansion' but it didn't help
[23:10] <dasChaos23> Hello everyone....
[23:11] <dasChaos23> Does anyone know of a nice graphical remote client, ideally between windows and xubuntu?
[23:12] <dasChaos23> Basically I would love to set up a xbox server, which can be accessed by Window, Mac and Linux machines (ideally)
[23:14] <owen1> how to convert ntfs or fat into ex3 (external usb drive)?