[00:00] <rav> DanaKil: i'll give it a try. thanks
[00:00] <[|Liam|]> DanaKil: How can I open up this shell script file, i'm double clicking it but it is not opening :$
[00:01] <[|Liam|]> Nvm got it :o
[00:02] <Goan> I just tried to run a command for mysql installation.. and I can't stop it with ctrl-c or whatever
[00:02] <Goan> InnoDB: Unable to lock ./ibdata1, error: 11
[00:02] <Goan> InnoDB: Check that you do not already have another mysqld process
[00:02] <Goan> InnoDB: using the same InnoDB data or log files.
[00:02] <Goan> same thing.. again n again
[00:02] <Goan> how to stop it, using a keyboard interrupt sequence?
[00:04] <rav> Goan: if you have KDE, Ctrl+Esc and kill the process from the window
[00:05] <joe_> salve qualcuno mi aiuta a configurare il video di kubuntu
[00:05] <joe_> vedo la schermata di login enorme
[00:05] <Goan> tks rav
[00:06] <DanaKil> http://img.4chan.org/b/res/91775556.html    <<
[00:06] <DanaKil> hoo sorry
[00:06] <DanaKil> wrong channel
[00:06] <DanaKil> really sorry -________________-
[00:06] <rav> !it
[00:09] <rogan> how do i get amarok to play m4a format? and read the id3s correctly?
[00:11] <DanaKil> have you installed libxine1-ffmpeg  ?
[00:12] <rogan> nope
[00:13] <DanaKil> you can try libxine1-all-plugins   too
[00:13] <rogan> oops
[00:13] <rogan> libxine1-ffmpeg is installed
[00:13] <DanaKil> :(
[00:16] <l3r1k> Whenever I boot my machine with the kubuntu install cd in the drive, it acts normal until I hit enter on the menu option to install kubuntu, then puts me in an ash shell on a busybox system of some sort. That's all. I've downloaded several different versions and tried the text based installer too, but they all do the same thing.
[00:16] <l3r1k> This is the most strange thing ever.. I've never had anything like this happen.. Anyone have any suggestions?
[00:17] <DanaKil> i had the same problem with an older version of kubuntu l3r1k
[00:17] <DanaKil> and adding the boot option all-generic-ide solved the problem
[00:18] <DanaKil> but it's a quite common failure, it's something related to your configuration i think
[00:18] <DanaKil> do you have SATA drives ?
[00:18] <DanaKil> or a MSI motherboard ?
[00:19] <kelf> disconnect
[00:20] <fabio> o
[00:22] <DanaKil> rogan >> you can try to install "kubuntu-restricted-extras"
[00:24] <rogan> DanaKil: Ok thanks Amarok plays m4a format but it cant play cirtain ones and it does not read the id3 tags
[00:25] <rogan> for ex song named xxx comes up as just title and when you go to play it it gives and error about hte format and then changes the title of the song completely
[00:26] <DanaKil> hm, don't know sorry :)
[00:29] <david> !nvidia
[00:29] <Widget> test
[00:30] <rogan> ?
[00:31] <Widget> nothing lol.. changed my Nick :p
[00:31] <FuriousGeorge> hey all
[00:31] <Widget> hey
[00:32] <FuriousGeorge>  im gonna use partimage to clone a computer, rather than set it up from scratch.  I calculate it should save me a lot of time.  I figure i just need to recreate a few dev nodes for the first boot, check my udev rules where my mac address is listed, change my hostname, etc...  sounds easy enough, right?
[00:33] <FuriousGeorge> is that a good strategy?
[00:33] <DanaKil> (don't know sorry)
[00:34] <Widget> same.. not sure, sry.. im still a linux noobie
[00:34] <Widget> rebooting, brb
[00:39] <Widget> !nvidia
[00:40] <Widget> hey.. got a hardware drivers message pop up in task bar saying drivers were generic, so i enabled the ones that were listed in hardware drivers, restarted but it still doesnt let me cahnge resolution or anything else
[00:40] <anton> How do I install Opera from the konsole?
[00:41] <Widget> the hardware driver said it would allow me to utilise the 3d/2d effects etc..
[00:44] <DarkriftX> my computer restarted and now X wont start. I get an error about "failed to load module nvidia (module does not exist)"
[00:44] <DarkriftX> anyone know what i can do to get back into x?
[00:44] <DarkriftX> i think there was a nvidia driver update last night
[00:45] <DanaKil> try to use the "nv" drivers
[00:46] <KyleL> guh, linux seems to think I have a monstor screen... 3360x1050, but what I really have is two 1680x1050's, can anyone give me a tip on how to make it see the screens as two different monitors?
[00:46] <KyleL> theres a lot of info in google about this, but thats kind of the problem.  its all cluttered together and I can't find my exact issue
[00:48] <KyleL> it works like this, but its defaulting to the wrong monitor... which is why I want to make it see them as seperate and then hopefully I can reverse their order
[00:48] <rogan> try #ubuntu ... seems a bit more active
[00:49] <Widget> !nvidia
[00:49] <DarkriftX> whats the location to xorg file again anyone?
[00:49] <KyleL> /etc/X11/
[00:49] <DarkriftX> ty
[00:50] <Widget> hmm.. ive followed the steps to insall the nvidia driver for my 6800gt, but it still doesnt work
[00:52] <GaMbi_DK> Hi :) Can anyone tell me where to throw commands that I need to run on startup? :) - GaMbi
[00:53] <DarkriftX> thx guys, got it working
[00:54] <Widget> wont let me get more then 640/480 res
[00:56] <Robb_M> !cron | GaMbi_DK
[00:59] <jtisme> GaMbi_DK, did you get an answer
[01:00] <Robb_M> im assuming this is what you were asking about? if not..please say so and i can see what else i can dig up :)
[01:00] <GaMbi_DK> jtisme, still lookin for cron.. gonna check out the howto now
[01:01] <DanaKil> GaMbi_DK  : there is a new System Settings module for this if you use KDE4
[01:01] <DanaKil> in the "advanced" tab
[01:01] <EvilDaemon> what's the .deb handler in KDE4?
[01:02] <jtisme> depending on what you want to start up u can use  /etc/rc.local  that is what it is for
[01:02] <GaMbi_DK> I dont got KDE4 I think?
[01:02] <GaMbi_DK> is KDE4 stable?
[01:02] <Robb_M> GaMbi_DK: kde4 is somewhat stable....
[01:02] <GaMbi_DK> well this is running smooth for the first time in a week ^^ think im gonna stay here for a bit..
[01:04] <DanaKil> there is a new ubuntu version in 2 or 3 weeks with the new KDE4 so you might wait a bit :)
[01:04] <DanaKil> i use KDE4 for some times now and i'm pretty happy with it (except the bad performance of my nvidia with kde4...)
[01:04] <Robb_M> DanaKil: you talking about 8.10 right?
[01:04] <DanaKil> intrepid ibex
[01:05] <Widget> ""To start using the driver you will need to logout and select Restart X Server from the menu, or press Alt+E""
[01:05] <Robb_M> DanaKil: yes
[01:05] <DanaKil> (don't remember the version number)
[01:05] <GaMbi_DK> DanaKil, 2 3 weeks? I need this command in NOW ^^
[01:05] <Widget> where does it says "restart X Server" ? or just restart PC ?
[01:05] <Robb_M> DanaKil: yes thats correct, but yeah, i got smacked earlier or 8.10 discussion and kde4 discussion in here :)
[01:05] <jtisme> intrepid is 8.10 due 10/31
[01:05] <DanaKil> i was speaking of the switch to KDE4 GaMbi_DK ;)
[01:05] <GaMbi_DK> "compiz --replace --only-current-screen & disown"
[01:06] <GaMbi_DK> DanaKil,  ok :P
[01:06] <DanaKil> i don't want to use compiz
[01:06] <Robb_M> DanaKil: im aware...just warning you, watch out, these guys get a little picky on topics ;)
[01:06] <DanaKil> picky about what ?
[01:06] <GaMbi_DK> but cant find where to put it.. still
[01:06] <Robb_M> DanaKil: talking about kde4 and intrepid
[01:06] <DanaKil> oh...
[01:07] <DanaKil> why ? <__<
[01:07] <Robb_M> well, intrepids a version thats not yet supported....and kde4 is well...cranky at best....
[01:07] <mado> hi guys ...
[01:08] <mado> there's an error in my kwallet ...
[01:08] <DanaKil> ^^
[01:08] <mado> it doesn't recognize my password
[01:08] <mado> can anybody help me?
[01:09] <jtisme> Robb_M, no one should be smacking you about 8.10 and kde4 as the topic says to help us test 8.10 and kde4 is default desktop on kubuntu 8.10
[01:09] <DanaKil> everybody have a problem with his kwallet this times, it's the economic crisis :/
[01:09] <DanaKil> (sorry)
[01:09] <DanaKil> mado: do you speak about your main pass to open kwallet or about a stored password ?
[01:09] <mado> the main-password :(
[01:10] <mado> DanaKil: :(
[01:10] <DanaKil> hmm, if you don't have a lot of pass stored, you can delete and purge kwallet and reinstall it... maybe
[01:11] <mado> sudo apt-get remove kwallet ?
[01:11] <DanaKil> hm, i don't know the command line to purge
[01:11] <DanaKil> so use adept_manager
[01:11] <mado> :)
[01:12] <Robb_M> wrong button i think?
[01:12] <Robb_M> lol
[01:12] <DanaKil> in adept_manager, right clic on kwallet and try "purge"
[01:12] <DanaKil> purge delete all configuration files associated with your apps instead of just removing the apps
[01:13] <DanaKil> (check if this doesn't delete others importants things when you purge kwallet <<)
[01:13] <mado> ?
[01:13] <mado> check what?
[01:14] <DanaKil> if it don't automatically remove other packages but i don't think... :)
[01:14] <DanaKil> and don't forget to close kwallet in the systray when you purge it
[01:15] <mado> ok ... i don't see it open ...
[01:15] <mado> *is trying it out now*
[01:15] <dean0null> i'm having problems with connecting to the internet, can someone please help me out here i'm a newbie
[01:15] <DanaKil> maybe :)
[01:16] <dean0null> i don't know what program to use and what settings i need to enter to connect my linux laptop to a wireless gateway
[01:16] <mado> no ...
[01:16] <DanaKil> sorry mado :(
[01:16] <mado> looks like it has saved the old password somewhere DanaKil
[01:17] <DanaKil> ok :/
[01:17] <mado> well ... i will take it easy ... i will remove kubuntu linux 8.04 in some days :)
[01:17] <mado> i can't wait to try out 8.10
[01:17] <mado> :)
[01:17] <dean0null> optimally i'd only have to type in the number on the bottom of my router/gateway...but linux is confusing me
[01:18] <dean0null> what's neccissary to get it online?
[01:18] <DanaKil> dean0null : have you tried knetworkmanager ?
[01:18] <GaMbi_DK> argh.. someone here must be able to point me to where I throw in commands to run on startup
[01:18] <jtisme> GaMbi_DK, /etc/rc.local that is what it is for
[01:19] <mado> another thing ... would a "8.10 beta" which would be updated regularly be as stable and the same product as the "8.10 stable" that comes out in some days?
[01:19] <dean0null> it's not loading danakil
[01:19] <jtisme> mado not the same but relatively stable at this point as we are only
[01:19] <jtisme> about 12 days from release
[01:19] <DanaKil> mado : i tried to update my hardy a few days ago with the new beta and it broke my install...
[01:19] <DanaKil> maybe you should wait too :p
[01:20] <mado> DanaKil: ok :)
[01:20] <DanaKil> dean0null : it's a systray apps, maybe it's already launched
[01:20] <dean0null> okay, yeah i think it's open
[01:21] <dean0null> i put edit connections and my wireless device shows up
[01:21] <dean0null> but once i get to modifying the options i end up with no internet
[01:21] <GaMbi_DK> jtisme, im in the file.. the first "#" should be removed and the file will run the commands in this file? :)
[01:21] <DanaKil> are you in DHCP and all ?
[01:22] <GaMbi_DK> jtisme, "#!/bin/sh -e"
[01:22] <DanaKil> GaMbi_DK : nop, don't remove it
[01:22] <dean0null> it's asking for a manual connection
[01:22] <dean0null> i can connect and save though
[01:22] <mado> DanaKil: -> do i need kwallet?
[01:22] <GaMbi_DK> DanaKil, the only thing in that file (without #) is "exit 0".. is this right?
[01:23] <[|Liam|]> Are there any video editing programs for Kubuntu? Also are there any screen recorder programs for Kubuntu?
[01:23] <DanaKil> i don't know GaMbi_DK but i know that the # should stay here in script files ;)
[01:23] <mado> i asking because i haven't used it much :)
[01:23] <DanaKil> mado: i never use it, i simply type my password by hand
[01:23] <dean0null> it just says no network connection even though i put in the key at the bottom of the router/gateway as the first option
[01:23] <jtisme> GaMbi_DK, yes
[01:24] <mado> ok DanaKil :)
[01:24] <[|Liam|]> :$
[01:24] <DanaKil> yes ,remove the # ?
[01:24] <jtisme> GaMbi_DK, no, leave  #!/bin...  it tells the OS what shell to run
[01:24] <jtisme> GaMbi_DK, i wasnt paying attention to your question
[01:24] <GaMbi_DK> DanaKil, and jtisme the command is "compiz --replace --only-current-screen & disown" this line can be putted in here?
[01:25] <[|Liam|]> i guess not >.<
[01:25] <GaMbi_DK> jtisme, NP :)
[01:25] <jtisme> GaMbi_DK, I dont know the answer to compiz since your desktop should already be up and running
[01:25] <mado> DanaKil: thanks for your help
[01:25] <DanaKil> :)
[01:25] <jtisme> GaMbi_DK, someone else has to tell you about compiz i dont use it
[01:26] <GaMbi_DK> jtisme, dosnt matter.. it works if I smash in the command at any point
[01:26] <[|Liam|]> DanaKil: Are there any video editing programs for Kubuntu? Also are there any screen recorder programs for Kubuntu?
[01:26] <jtisme> GaMbi_DK, good
[01:26] <GaMbi_DK> k.. ill try that.. back in 2 min :)
[01:26] <dean0null> that's wierd it finally worked after all this time
[01:27] <GaMbi_DK> oh yea.. so the file looks like this: alot of text lines with # infront.. then "exit 0" it dosnt matter where i put my command? or should it be before the exit?
[01:27] <DanaKil> there is kino (in gtk i think), cinnerela, avidemux
[01:28] <DanaKil> kdenlive
[01:28] <dean0null> how do you update on the command line
[01:28] <DanaKil> what kind of video editing do you need ?
[01:28] <[|Liam|]> was that for me DanaKil?
[01:28] <dean0null> like if i wanted to update my whole system?
[01:28] <DanaKil> dean0null : sudo apt-get update
[01:28] <DanaKil> sudo apt-get upgrade
[01:28] <dean0null> k thanks
[01:29] <DanaKil> this 2 commands
[01:29] <DanaKil> yes [|Liam|]
[01:29] <[|Liam|]> DanaKil: just any editing software with decent effects is ok
[01:29] <DanaKil> heu no, the commands where for dean0null <<
[01:29] <[|Liam|]> [02:27] <DanaKil> there is kino (in gtk i think), cinnerela, avidemu
[01:30] <[|Liam|]> i meant that
[01:30] <DanaKil> hm, you could try kino, even if it is not a kde apps
[01:30] <GaMbi_DK> DanaKil, in the rc.local.. do I need to put anything before and after the command? or just thorw in the command?
[01:30] <DanaKil> just write one command per line I think
[01:30] <GaMbi_DK> ok.. brb
[01:31] <[|Liam|]> googled cinnerela with no results ;$
[01:31] <dean0null> are there any blu-ray player (software) for linux?
[01:31] <dean0null> players*
[01:31] <DanaKil> "cinelerra"
[01:31] <[|Liam|]> oo
[01:32] <DanaKil> but i don't know if cinelerra is in the repository and it's a quite complex application i think
[01:32] <DanaKil> try kino
[01:32] <DanaKil> sudo apt-get install kino (or use the GUI)
[01:32] <dean0null> kino..hmm i'll check them both out
[01:33] <DanaKil> and Kdenlive seems great but it's still a young app
[01:33] <DanaKil> so instable and not a lot of feature
[01:34]  * beata asks if anyone might know what's up with samba: his CIFS mount won't let root write to it.
[01:34] <DanaKil> (don't know beata, sorry)
[01:37] <[|Liam|]> What about for recording, DanaKil?
[01:37] <EvilDaemon> GUYS, in ubuntu, the microphone recorder was called "Sound Recorder" or something
[01:37] <EvilDaemon> what's it in Kubuntu?
[01:37] <DanaKil> try krecordmydesktop but i never used it [|Liam|]
[01:39] <owner> hello
[01:39] <DanaKil> hi owner
[01:39] <[|Liam|]> thanks DanaKil :D
[01:39] <dean0null> thanks everyoen
[01:39] <dean0null> i'm off
[01:40] <owner> hidanki  wats is this  can u ex plainto me pls
[01:40] <DanaKil> bye
[01:40] <dean0null> to find the wizard
[01:40] <[|Liam|]> 2:40am, im off too, night.
[01:40] <owner>  hi
[01:40] <owner>  can u ex plain wat this room is?
[01:41] <DanaKil> this is a community room for the linux/kubuntu users
[01:41] <owner> oh ok
[01:41] <owner>  thank you
[01:41] <Naaaatan> hi, has anyone managed to get knewz installed on kubuntu?
[01:41] <owner>  well iam have trouble loggin on to a msn
[01:41] <Naaaatan> it has a .cmake file but I don't know how to use cmake, never used it before
[01:41] <owner> aw its ok look like is wokring now
[01:42] <DanaKil> have you already compiled an application Naaaatan ?
[01:42] <rogan> owner: were are you from?
[01:42] <Naaaatan> of course
[01:42] <Naaaatan> just not with cmake
[01:42] <owner>  canada iam female
[01:42] <owner>  i cant take the red
[01:42] <owner>  can u change it pls
[01:42] <Widget> anyone able to help me get nvidia drivers to work properly
[01:42] <Naaaatan> I tried using cmake-gui but ran into an error
[01:42] <DanaKil> Naaaatan :  cmake -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=`kde4-config --prefix`
[01:42] <DanaKil> then make
[01:43] <DanaKil> then sudo make install
[01:43] <DanaKil> erf, this is my command for kde4
[01:43] <DanaKil> remove the 4 and it should work for kde3 i think
[01:43] <Naaaatan> DanaKil: I have KDE 4.. gonna give it a try, thank you :)
[01:44] <Goan> Hi. Where can I search my java folder on kubuntu? Have to check whether I have mysql jdbc jar over there or not
[01:44] <Naaaatan> DanaKil: the cmake command worked nicely, but no make possible after that
[01:44] <Widget> ive installed the driver and enabled the 3d in Hardware Drivers section.. but cant get mroe the 640x480 resolution
[01:45] <Naaaatan> DanaKil: oh wait, an error occured with cmake : ERROR: cmake/modules/FindKDE4Internal.cmake not found in
[01:45] <Naaaatan>  /home/nathan/.kde/share/apps;/usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/kde4-profile/default/share/apps;/usr/share/kde4/apps
[01:45] <DanaKil> hmm, seems like you're don't have some devel package but don't know which one...
[01:46] <Naaaatan> hmm
[01:46] <Naaaatan> DanaKil:  there is a .cmake file included with the app, should I use that in some way?
[01:47] <DanaKil> nop, the file used by the cmake command is cmakelist.txt
[01:47] <DanaKil> and all you need is the command line, with the cmake command
[01:47] <Naaaatan> that file exists as well
[01:47] <Naaaatan> I ran the cmake command in the src folder though
[01:47] <Naaaatan> the cmakelist.txt file is one folder higher
[01:47] <DanaKil> check if you have all the kde4 devel packages installed
[01:48] <Naaaatan> hmm generates the same error in the parent folder
[01:48] <DanaKil> you must launch the command in the directory where the cmakelist is
[01:48] <Naaaatan> ok
[01:49] <DanaKil> kde4-devel,   build-essential...
[01:49] <Naaaatan> kdelibs4-dev isnt installed, thats possibly why
[01:50] <DanaKil> maybe :)
[01:50] <Naaaatan> ok installing 219 mb of extra libs :p
[01:50] <Naaaatan> My install is quite fresh so.. ;-)
[01:50] <[|Liam|]> DanaKil: that desktop recorder was good but the format of the raw footage was .ogg, is there anyway to convert this to AVI or are there any other screen recorder programs that can record in avi?
[01:51] <Naaaatan> thanks for helping me so far DanaKil :)
[01:51] <DanaKil> i can't understand why there is not a default metapackage for all this kde4 devel stuff...
[01:51] <[|Liam|]> <_<
[01:52] <DanaKil> don't forget libplasma-dev  too
[01:52] <Naaaatan> well kde-devel and kde4libs-dev seem to sum it up quite nicely
[01:52] <Naaaatan> ok
[01:53] <DanaKil> [|Liam|]   if you want to convert something, try avidemux
[01:54] <DanaKil> i don't know if recordmydesktop can save as avi
[01:54] <DanaKil> sudo apt-get install avidemux-qt
[01:54] <[|Liam|]> :o
[01:55] <DanaKil> and don't forget to install ffmpeg and all if it's not already done :)
[01:55] <Naaaatan> DanaKil: it worked, but now I am at the following error message
[01:55] <Naaaatan> CMake Error: The following variables are used in this project, but they are set to NOTFOUND.
[01:55] <Naaaatan> Please set them or make sure they are set and tested correctly in the CMake files:
[01:55] <Naaaatan> UUDEVIEW_INCLUDE_DIR
[01:55] <Naaaatan>    used as include directory in directory /home/nathan/Downloads/knewz-0.1_beta4/src
[01:55] <[|Liam|]> How can I get that via sudo, Dan? i might already have it but i'm not sure.
[01:56] <DanaKil> well, no idea Naaaatan but it seems like a not well tested cmake file, not a compile error
[01:56] <DanaKil> what is knewz ?
[01:56] <Naaaatan> mm I was fearing that
[01:56] <DanaKil> sudo apt-get install ffmpeg
[01:56] <[|Liam|]> ty
[01:56] <Naaaatan> well not much we can do about it I guess, thanks for your help DanaKil :)
[01:56] <DanaKil> but you can launch sudo adept_manager and search for installed package from a gui
[01:56] <DanaKil> :)
[01:56] <Goan> how do i set the classpath for java
[01:57] <Naaaatan> DanaKil: it's a newsgroup client
[01:57] <Naaaatan> for KDE 4
[01:57] <DanaKil> ok :)
[01:57] <Naaaatan> http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/KNewz?content=58797
[01:57] <Naaaatan> but it's still in beta
[01:57] <DanaKil> you should report the compile problem to the author then ;)
[01:57] <Naaaatan> I will
[01:57] <Naaaatan> Ironic release note for the latest beta tho :P
[01:57] <Naaaatan> Beta 4
[01:58] <Naaaatan> Fixed issues with uudeview not being found.
[01:58] <DanaKil> :/
[01:58] <[|Liam|]> DanaKil: You cannot open .ogg with Avidumux or w.e >.<
[01:58] <DanaKil> oh really oO;;
[01:58] <DanaKil> sorry then ^^'
[01:58] <[|Liam|]> >.<
[01:59] <Goan> ....?
[01:59] <DanaKil> don't know Goan, sorry
[01:59] <Goan> anyone
[02:00] <DanaKil> try #ubuntu
[02:01] <DanaKil> [|Liam|]   http://ubuntuswitch.wordpress.com/2007/10/05/howto-convert-ogg-to-avi-with-mencoder/
[02:04] <[|Liam|]> thanks
[02:09] <[|Liam|]> wow DanaKil it worked
[02:09] <[|Liam|]> you pwn :o
[02:09] <DanaKil> thanks google <<
[02:11] <DanaKil> with avidemux you can easily cut parts of the vids or recompress it now
[02:14] <[|Liam|]> yeah shame kino is so complicating tho :o
[02:18] <Widget> should i install envy to install nvidia driver?
[02:19] <DanaKil> well, i use envy and it works great for me but graphics drivers are such a mess...
[02:19] <DanaKil> but you can try, personnaly i like it and it's easy :)
[02:20] <GaMbi_DK> anyone who can tell me how to / if it is possible to drag a window from my monitor onto my TV (using Separate X screen) - I need this so I can use my desktops and watching a movie on TV-out at the same time
[02:20] <vlad> hi there i have a little problem ... i cant play whit my screen rezolution before i had another screen and now i change it what can i do now i have 960x529
[02:20] <vlad> i want more ....
[02:20] <vlad>  can enywhone help me ?
[02:21] <cuznt> i had that and had to restart hit esc and choose recovery  from the promt
[02:21] <cuznt> prompt
[02:22] <vlad> thats a answer to me? or to
[02:22] <vlad> dana
[02:22] <cuznt> i fixed broken packages and x server
[02:22] <cuznt> yes vlad
[02:22] <cuznt> it was easy
[02:22] <vlad> ok so i have to restart and hit esc
[02:22] <vlad>  ok
[02:22] <vlad>  thanks a lot i am gona try that ...
[02:22] <vlad>  i have less rez on my screen in that but not more...
[02:23] <vlad> cuznt:
[02:23] <cuznt> that is just what i had
[02:23] <vlad> Ok than
[02:23] <vlad>  thanks a lot
[02:23] <vlad>  Be right back
[02:23] <cuznt> g
[02:28] <wharfedale> hi
[02:33] <kr0n05931> is there a terminal command to show my hardware specs?
[02:34] <DanaKil> try lspci
[02:34] <kr0n05931> thanks :)
[02:35] <GaMbi_DK> how do i drag a window from monitor to TV using separate X screen?
[02:35] <SilentDis> !bz2
[02:36] <DarthFrog> GaMbi_DK: It's actually possible to do what you want but not the way you're asking about, I don't think.
[02:37] <DarthFrog> GaMbi_DK: Do you have a TV tuner card installe?
[02:37] <DarthFrog> installed?
[02:39] <DarthFrog> If so, install and run MythTV.  It's available in the repositories and is an utterly marvellous app.
[02:41] <GaMbi_DK> DarthFrog,  TV tuner no
[02:41] <GaMbi_DK> just movies from my pv
[02:41] <GaMbi_DK> pc
[02:42] <vlad> hi there i have some errors on ubuntu still  what can i do my 3 d screen is not working eny more
[02:45] <vlad> how can i get compizconfig again?
[02:52] <Widget> hmm.. my driver seems to be installed.. is there a way to probe my monitor to allow for correct settings of it ?
[02:52] <Widget> its an LG Flatron F700P CRT
[02:53] <rogan> will photoshop run on wine?
[02:53] <werenerd> rogan: i don't think so. if it does, it won't do it well.
[02:54] <rogan> wtb photoshop for linux
[02:54] <werenerd> people have been whining about that for years. I just use GIMP or Krita
[02:54] <cuznt> gimp works
[02:55] <werenerd> Widget: you are using KDE right?
[02:56] <werenerd> rogan: i understand for some professionals, photoshop is a necessity. however if it is a hobby and nothing more, GIMP &/or Krita will do more than what you will need
[02:56] <Naaaatan> has anyone managed to get Firefox 3 to use the KDE 4 dialogs?
[02:57] <werenerd> Naaaatan: there is a plugin for that I thought. Or was that only for kde 3.5?
[02:57] <Naaaatan> kgtk?
[02:57] <Naaaatan> yea that's only kde 3.5, I tried it
[02:58] <Naaaatan> and I wasn't able to find a kde 4 version, guessing there isn't one :p
[02:58] <werenerd> i would be real money that is all you will find ATM
[02:58] <werenerd> be=bet
[02:58] <vlad> i have to ask somfing can i use my webcam ? on Ubuntu for messenger? and if so how do i get my drivers?
[02:58] <rogan> werenerd: thanks
[02:58] <vlad> please help me use my nick wen talking tome pls
[02:59] <werenerd> vlad: you can use kopete for video, but you can't get video conference
[02:59] <Widget> werenerd: yep, kde
[02:59] <vlad> i mean for yahoo ... werenerd
[02:59] <werenerd> you could try out OoVoo, skype, or Ekiga though
[02:59] <vlad> werenerd:
[02:59] <werenerd> Oh, I have never tried yahoo messenger before
[02:59] <vlad> Ok thanks so no use...
[03:00] <werenerd> vlad: can you use your webcam at all currently?
[03:01] <jtisme> tried to mount floppy  /dev/fd0  does not exist in 8.04 any ideas
[03:01] <vlad> use it for what ...
[03:01] <vlad>  i don`t think i have drivers...
[03:01] <vlad>  does it works whidowt?
[03:01] <werenerd> vlad: what webcam do you have?
[03:02] <vlad> premier
[03:02] <vlad> premier pc 199
[03:03] <werenerd> premier pc is the vendor? like logitech?
[03:03] <vlad> Premier is the company that made it
[03:03] <vlad>  pc199 is the model
[03:03] <vlad> and i have another problem too
[03:04] <vlad> i was having my descktop like cube
[03:04] <vlad> and now
[03:04] <vlad> is like at first time
[03:04] <werenerd> can you link me to a product page?
[03:04] <vlad>  doesen`t works eny more
[03:04] <vlad>  they don`t have a webpage
[03:04] <werenerd> you still have compiz turned on?
[03:04] <vlad> yeah i guess
[03:05] <vlad>  how do i turn it off?
[03:05] <vlad> never done that
[03:05] <werenerd> vlad: no webpage?  that is weird
[03:05] <vlad> well is made on a ship :))
[03:05] <werenerd> in order to have the cube, you have to have desktop effects enabled
[03:06] <Widget> werenerd: 169.12 is the nvdia driver thats installed
[03:06] <werenerd> vlad: as far as the webcam goes, you will need to know the chipset it has on it so you can find if it is compatable with linux and then what drivers to use
[03:06] <Naaaatan> anyone know if there's some way to get the "add to archive / extract here" context menu in kde 4.1 ?
[03:07] <ubuntu__> hello I am in need of assistance, my partitions are intact but neither my xp or linux are booting.
[03:07] <werenerd> Widget: i did not mean to ignore you. I am sorry i did not see you earlier reply
[03:07] <vlad> and what about my 3 d desck
[03:07] <ubuntu__> do you count your partitions from left to right
[03:08] <ubuntu__> so (0,0) then (0,1)
[03:08] <werenerd> vlad: go to the kde menu->system->desktop effects
[03:08] <werenerd> Widget: do you have the kde control center installed?
[03:09] <vlad> whats that
[03:09] <werenerd> vlad: the desktop effects?
[03:10] <Widget> werenerd: umm.. not sure, ill jus check
[03:10] <vlad> i got that
[03:10] <vlad>  compiz config u mean ?
[03:11] <vlad> compis config settings manager
[03:11] <werenerd> vlad: yes that. Is compiz enabled?
[03:11] <Widget> werenerd: sry.. where do i find that info :S ?
[03:11] <Naaaatan> ahhh.. answered my own question : http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/Extract+And+Compress+KDE4?content=84206
[03:11] <vlad> how do i enable it
[03:11] <vlad> ?
[03:12] <werenerd> Widget: open a terminal and type " kcontrol "
[03:12] <werenerd> if you have it installed, it will appear. if you fon't have t installed, it will tell us
[03:12] <Widget> werenerd: ah yep.. its installed
[03:13] <werenerd> vlad: well, if your screen looks like mine, there are 4 options. off - standard - extra - custom. is that what you have?
[03:13] <DanaKil> bye :)
[03:14] <vlad> werenerd:  i didn`t ever disabled so to be able to find now the enable button all is like it was ... the cube is cliked and all like it was
[03:14] <werenerd> Widget: go to the Peripherals
[03:15] <werenerd> Widget: monitor and display being the obvious choice next
[03:15] <Widget> yup
[03:15] <vlad> werenerd:  let me tell u like this before ... web i was opening the pc it was showing that it is opened 3 d  in a special way
[03:15] <vlad> werenerd:  i didn`t ever disabled so to be able to find now the enable button all is like it was ... the cube is cliked and all like it was
[03:16] <Widget> werenerd: strange.. it doesnt say i have the driver installed there.. just says 'nv'
[03:16] <werenerd> Widget: do you have the restricted packages installed?
[03:16] <Widget> werenerd: yet under nvidia x server, it says it is :\
[03:16] <Naaaatan> When I right click a download in Firefox and click open containing folder, it opens in Nautilus instead of Dolphin, anyone know how to change this behaviour?
[03:17] <werenerd> vlad - you say you never turned it off, so what did the screen say? standard? Extra? Custom?
[03:17] <werenerd> Widget: trust the nvidia server!
[03:18] <vlad> werenerd if u help me reinstal it wod it work again like before?
[03:18] <vlad> file:///home/vlad/Documente/Compiz_Beryl%20:%20Ubuntu%20Tutorials%20:%20Dapper%20-%20Feisty%20-%20Gutsy%20-%20Hardy.html
[03:19] <Widget> werenerd: i installed nvidia-glx-new earlier and enabled the device driver under "hardware drivers" but now for some reason they're not installed/enabled anymroe
[03:19] <werenerd> vlad: uninstalling it should not be necessary
[03:19] <vlad> ok how do i uninstal it
[03:19] <Widget> werenerd: should i re-installed nvidia-glx-new and enable hardware driver again then reboot ?
[03:20] <werenerd> when you installed the driver earlier, was it via the adept updater?
[03:20] <Widget> yep
[03:21] <werenerd> vlad: I just said not to uninstall it
[03:22] <werenerd> vlad - you say you never turned it off, so what did the screen say? standard? Extra? Custom?
[03:23] <vlad> werenerd:  i am uninstaling it
[03:24] <vlad> werenerd:  how can i instal it again ?
[03:24] <werenerd> vlad: I just said twice not to. this is not windows, that will do nothing.
[03:24] <werenerd> vlad: how did you uninstall it?
[03:24] <vlad> werenerd:  from the uninsatal menu
[03:25] <werenerd> ???
[03:25] <vlad> from the aplications
[03:25] <vlad> my linux is in romanian
[03:25] <vlad> ok than
[03:25] <werenerd> you should be doing this through adept
[03:26] <vlad>  how?
[03:27] <werenerd> vlad: lets take this step by step
[03:27] <vlad> ok brb a second
[03:29] <Widget> werenerd: should i still re-install the nvid-glx-new driver ? even though nvid x server say its installed ? i did an update earlier ift hat has anything to do with it not being installed still
[03:30] <Goan> I did not have jdk installed on my kubuntu machine, I have just installed it with sudo apt-get.. It did not give me the installation folder. Does someone have an idea about its locatio
[03:30] <billyd> Has anypne had trouble with strigi?
[03:30] <werenerd> Widget: did you restart the X server or reboot after the update?
[03:30] <Goan> billyd, I had
[03:30] <Widget> werenerd: dont believe i did
[03:30] <Goan> just killed the process two days back.. and deleted the entire directory .. worth 23G
[03:31] <billyd> I ended up ripping mine out and then un-installing - it ate my entore disk up with something
[03:31] <werenerd> Widget: aaah, that might be it. Log out of your current session. At the login screen press ctrl+alt+backspace
[03:31] <Goan> same case.. 14mb left out of 24 gigs
[03:31] <Goan> now its 23 gigs free
[03:31] <Widget> werenerd: ok, brb
[03:31] <Goan> lol
[03:31] <Goan> I did not have jdk installed on my kubuntu machine, I have just installed it with sudo apt-get.. It did not give me the installation folder. Does someone have an idea about its locatio
[03:31] <billyd> TAnhkfully a friend called me to see if I was still alive because of Ike and I was able to aske hime and we tracked the trouble down
[03:32] <billyd> And I will keep un-installing strigi even if it'ssupposed to eb standard
[03:33] <billyd> I like Kfind to find stuff in file name
[03:33] <Goan> I didnt uninstall it or something... a small bug taken care of
[03:33] <billyd> I can't afford to have something eat up a 300G HD
[03:35] <Goan> anyone for my qn?
[03:35] <musashi> salut
[03:35] <werenerd> Goan: what was your question?
[03:35] <Goan> I did not have jdk installed on my kubuntu machine, I have just installed it with sudo apt-get.. It did not give me the installation folder. Does someone have an idea about its location
[03:35] <werenerd> Goan: where was something installed or something like that?
[03:36] <Widget> werenerd: i did that ctrl-alt-backspace, then it look me to a screen like termin, so i put in my user name/pw, but it didnt log me back in.. so i reset.. is that ok
[03:36] <werenerd> Goan: go to adept, find the package you just installed. click on details and that will give you the paths and files installed
[03:37] <werenerd> Widget: the ctrl+alt+backspace should have restarted your x-server. basically a shortcut for rebooting. i don't know why it failed
[03:38] <werenerd> Widget: when you rebooted, everything OK?
[03:38] <Widget> werenerd: i can get 800x600 res now.. but no higher
[03:38] <Widget> werenerd: i got an error from sudo wen i logged back in
[03:38] <billyd> Is 8.10 still slated for the 30th??
[03:38] <Goan> werenerd, tks I have found the location as /usr/lib/jvm/sun-java6-jdk
[03:39] <Goan> I have a mysql jdbc connecter jar file.. where I should put this under this path
[03:39] <werenerd> Goan: good to hear
[03:42] <Widget> wereerd: brb
[03:42] <Widget> werenerd: brb
[03:42] <werenerd> Widget: i gotta go, wife needs me. go get nvidia-settings. from there, you can edit your xorg.conf and manually set your resolution
[03:42] <Widget> werenerd: np, thnx for your help nayways :)
[03:47] <billyd> Ni
[03:48] <donjr_KS> I have kubuntu intrepid and I cannot it to burn an iso immage.  It doesn't even pop up that it's found a blank CD
[03:49] <Naaaatan> When I right click a download in Firefox and click open containing folder, it opens in Nautilus instead of Dolphin, anyone know how to change this behaviour?
[04:00] <dr_willis> donjr_KS,  ive seen befor where the links to the dvd drives in /dev/dvd and /dev/cdrom (and perhaps otehrs) point to the wrong device
[04:00] <Widget> is it kconsole that u type in terminl ?
[04:00] <Widget> for kde settings
[04:00] <dr_willis> seen that happen in about every release  - not sure wht controills those links
[04:01] <dr_willis> Widget,  kde3 or kde4 ?
[04:01] <Widget> 3 i thinik
[04:02] <Widget> though i did install some kde4 things.. but im pretty sure im still using kde3
[04:02] <dr_willis> find what launches it in the menus, and right click on the icon inthje menu and see what it launches.. I dont rember the name
[04:02] <dr_willis> kontrol-panel perhaps.. im not in kde right now
[04:04] <Widget> hmm.. its kcontrol yet i tried that multiple times b4 and didnt work :S
[04:04] <dr_willis> clarify 'dident work'
[04:04] <Widget> dr_willis: do u know much about getting nvidia drivers to work ?
[04:05] <dr_willis> Widget,  normally takes me all of 3 min to get nvidia up and running on my machines.
[04:05] <dr_willis> laptop, 8600 desktop, and a 8800 desktop
[04:06] <Widget> oh.. didnt work cause i typed it all wrong earlier.. my bad :p
[04:06] <Widget> dr_willis: i cant seem to install my 8600gt properly.. can only get 640x480 res
[04:07] <dr_willis> Widget,  i normally install the drivers,, reboot, then install/run the 'nvidia-settings' tool as root.
[04:07] <Widget> ive tried both through adpet manager and envy
[04:07] <dr_willis> Its very likely the drivers are installed.. just its thinking your monitor cant do higher.
[04:08] <dr_willis> I also manually edit the xorg.conf and ENABLE the 'show logo' feature - that way i see/know the nvidia drivers are working at each startuo
[04:09] <dr_willis> my xorg.conf from one machine -- nvidia 5500   http://pastebin.com/fbaf3398
[04:10] <dr_willis> xorg.conf from my 8800gtsXXX machine --> http://pastebin.com/m46bd7419
[04:12] <dr_willis> I dont have the logo enabled in those.. :) i just noticed..
[04:13] <dr_willis> under    Driver "Nvidia" i normally have the line
[04:13] <dr_willis>  Option     "NoLogo" "false"
[04:24] <Widget> uninstalled a heap of stuff then linux would load anymore :S .. had to revcovery =\
[04:25] <EvilDaemon> Nice.
[04:25] <Widget> so, because i uninstalled the video drivers n such, now my current driver is a generic one
[04:26] <Widget> just adept nvidia-glx-new > restart > nvidia settings ?
[04:27] <Widget> does anyone know if 'new' works for 6800 cards ?
[04:28] <Dr_Willis_> I think that is the right driver for  6800, however i think the nvidia-glx also worked.
[04:28] <Dr_Willis_> the !nvidia url has a link to a page with wht card is for what drivers
[04:28] <Dr_Willis_> !medibuntu
[04:29] <Widget> !nvidia
[04:31] <RoadHazard> hey guys, what is a suitable kde app for burning an iso?
[04:33] <Widget> should i intall nvidia-xconfig tool aswell as nvidia-settings ?
[04:34] <EvilDaemon> RoadHazard: k3b , sudo apt-get install k3b
[04:36] <muesli> hey guys, whenever i start up kde, a knetworkmanager tray app starts up
[04:36] <muesli> and kills all my network settings (as if it did an ifconfig eth0 down). any clue why that's happening?
[04:42] <daleach> I have no sound, not since I reinstalled with hardy, any ideas?
[04:42] <daleach> k3b is awesome
[04:43] <daleach> i read something the other day about... sudo alsa force-reload
[04:43] <daleach> didn't seem to help though
[04:46] <EvilDaemon> daleach: Mine was fixed when I upgraded to the Alpha Intrepid Ibex
[04:46] <EvilDaemon> google upgrade ibex from hardy
[04:46] <EvilDaemon> and see
[04:48] <Slynderdale> I managed to set some graphic settings in Kunbuntu under the extra appearance/eye candy section like shadows, transparency that my system didn't support and now the screen appears white every time I log in. What would be the best way to reset the config?
[04:49] <dr_willis> You mean to say you enabled compiz?
[04:50] <Slynderdale> dr_willis: Talking to me? If so, no, I simply enabled some settings in KDE under appearance that came with KDE 4.1
[04:51] <dr_willis> kde4.1 - no clue on that .
[04:53] <Omoikane_> Alright, I want to try and tackle this one again. Every time I boot up my Kubuntu computer the login flash screen loads and I type in the correct password only to have it blink for a moment and reload the login flash screen, over and over. I have no idea why it's doing this and really need to get access to this computer.
[04:56] <bewofthe> i think x server is down
[04:57] <bewofthe> go to command prompt (safe mode) and try this here  sudo dpkg -reconfigure -phigh xserver -xorg
[04:58] <bewofthe> or restart hit esc and choose the recover mode and choose xserver one
[04:59] <dr_willis> Omoikane_,  this is using kde 3 or 4.1 ?  what is your video card?
[04:59] <rogan> is there a way to get cube to show on machine idle?
[04:59] <dr_willis> rogan,  not that i have ever seen.. or wanted...
[04:59] <dr_willis> :)
[05:00] <rogan> :(
[05:00] <Omoikane_> dr_willis it's hardy not sure what ver of kde though.
[05:00] <dr_willis> black colors = kde4 :)  bright = kde3
[05:01] <Omoikane_> I was able to login via ssh and tty so I know it's the correct pass/login also I was thinking it might be an xserver issue.
[05:01] <dr_willis> You could try as a 'test' installing some alternative window manager, and  see if you can login to that.
[05:01] <dr_willis> like icewm, 'sudo apt-get install icewm' from a terminal/console/ssh - and select icewm from the sessions on the KDM screen
[05:02] <dr_willis> I had some bugs with ati cards where KDM worked..but would crash wheni got into KDE
[05:08] <Guest57550> !nvidia
[05:13] <daleach> hey guys my kdm gets me into kde but then i have no kwin windows manager wrapping my windows..i'm in blackbox now
[05:13] <dr_willis> daleach,  this is kde3 or 4? have you been using compiz?
[05:13] <daleach> haha dr_willis how did you know
[05:13] <daleach> jk yeah them and their wm hijacking!
[05:13] <daleach> hehe
[05:13] <dr_willis> let me guess.. You removed compiz?
[05:13] <daleach> i mean to say that
[05:14] <daleach> yes
[05:14] <daleach> :)
[05:14] <daleach> i got my sound working btw
[05:14] <dr_willis> windows answer = reformat/reinstall... :)
[05:14] <daleach> it was one of the frigen channels muted heh
[05:14] <daleach> oy
[05:14] <daleach> luckily here, i use /home
[05:14] <daleach> heh
[05:14] <dr_willis> but the fix i recall is to remove some settings directory.... but i forget where...
[05:15] <daleach> ah cool i found a good thread now to
[05:15] <dr_willis> I think thers a compiz setting file in .config  that if you remove it.. it 'should' fix it.
[05:16] <daleach> yeah i just saw that in a post, that there *was* a file that did emerald --replace || kwin --replace
[05:16] <daleach> so i'm thinking yeah its left over compiz as opposed to kde
[05:16] <daleach> heh
[05:16] <daleach> maybe in home
[05:17] <gwp1> hey daleach
[05:17] <dr_willis> those commands i think alter that config file i was referng to
[05:17] <aleman> ola
[05:18] <daleach> dr_willis  I'll give it a shot real quick
[05:19] <daleach> i just did rm -r ~/.compiz
[05:19] <dr_willis> I was thinkign it was in .settings/compiz
[05:19] <dr_willis> but i dont use compiz so i dont have the files
[05:30] <memeemeee> i need help with fglrx!
[05:31] <memeemeee> seriously or at least changing my xorg.conf file
[05:33] <dr_willis> and what part do you wish to change?
[05:34] <manish> i have been trying to change the boot splash screen in Kubuntu hardy but its not taking effect. has anybody faced such a problem
[05:34] <dr_willis> I normally just disable splash screens
[05:35] <manish> i am using emrald theme manager and have changed the splash screen in "spalsh"
[05:36] <memeemeee> dr_willis, I'm having trouble with my resolution being out of range
[05:36] <memeemeee> I think I should be able to set it in xorg.conf but I'm not sure how
[05:36] <manish> By splash i mean the progressbar and the kubuntu login screen where we put the user name and password
[05:36] <manish> am i being correct
[05:36] <dr_willis> I thought that was the compiz splash..  that you can set to  pop up.. but i could be wrong.
[05:37] <manish> dr_willis: was that for me??
[05:37] <daleach> dr_willis , just to update ya, deleting the .compiz didn't help :(
[05:37] <dr_willis> ya got the bootsplash, then the kdm login, then that little splash thing that goes on while kde loads... then.. i THINK compiz can even have its own little logo/splash when it starts up
[05:37] <daleach> when did beryl stop being the one to use btw?
[05:37] <daleach> had the most success with that
[05:37] <dr_willis> beryl died out ages ago.
[05:37] <dr_willis> 2+ years
[05:38] <dr_willis> it got assemilated
[05:38] <daleach> it hasn't been that long :-P
[05:38] <dr_willis> daleach,  you could just reinstall compiz
[05:38] <daleach> it was compiz->beryl->compiz right
[05:38] <dr_willis> compiz-fusion
[05:38] <daleach> uck, i had big issues with that
[05:38] <daleach> gotcha
[05:38] <dr_willis> reinstall it.. but disable it. :) dont uninstall it.
[05:38] <manish> no i want to change the login screen and the kubuntu screen showing the progress bar and the kubuntu logo that appears there
[05:38] <daleach> ahhh, that's an interesting idea
[05:38] <manish> i want to put something different when kubuntu loads
[05:39] <dr_willis> Login screen = the KDM themes.
[05:39] <manish> whcih file do i change or where do i dothe setting s
[05:39] <dr_willis> !changethemes
[05:39] <manish> i have already tried that
[05:39] <dr_willis> !kdm
[05:39] <manish> not successfully
[05:39] <dr_willis> Theres a kdm theme tool in the repos i think ya need to install for a gui to change it
[05:39] <memeemeee> anyone had experience with ATI and fglrx?
[05:39] <manish> it this link valid for kubuntu as well
[05:40] <manish> i have installed a tool named splash
[05:40] <daleach> dr_willis how would I disable the compiz ? also, are you an ubuntu developer?
[05:40] <dr_willis> memeemeee,  at one time i used a 'x modeline generator' web site to make a specific res modeline for my old machines.. but now a days X is supposed to get the info straight from the monitors
[05:40] <daleach> dr_willis memeemeee yeah so did I heh
[05:40] <dr_willis> daleach,  kwin --replace would remove it.. or use that fusion-icon tool.
[05:40] <manish> it does solve the purpose but for splashh screen that comes upwhile Kubuntu is bieng loaded after i enter the username and password
[05:40] <daleach> what a pain in the but that was!!
[05:40] <memeemeee> hmmm. perhaps not working because I'm using a kvm splitter/.
[05:40] <memeemeee> ?
[05:41] <daleach> dr_willis i had to do that only a year ago or so
[05:41] <dr_willis> memeemeee,  those can  cause issues.
[05:41] <daleach> let me guess its a 1680x1050
[05:41] <daleach> u have dual screens or 1
[05:41] <daleach> i had dual wide screen scetpre naga III's
[05:41] <daleach> and i had to do a bunch of that stuff
[05:41] <daleach> custom modelines etc
[05:41] <manish> are you getting some idea of the problem dr_willis
[05:41] <memeemeee> worked for a while pretty well dr_willis . then I installed extra ram and all went bad
[05:42] <daleach> ok u want to edit the login screen itself?
[05:42] <dr_willis> manish,  theres themes for that also.. but i rarely change the thing.. Im not on a kde3 system right now where i can even check the menus
[05:42] <daleach> that's kdm
[05:42] <daleach> kdm theme
[05:42] <memeemeee> is there a way to tell Xorg to change resolution from tty1?
[05:42] <dr_willis> Grub -> usplash -> kdm -  You Login -> kde splash  thing -> kde desktop
[05:42] <daleach> yes
[05:42] <daleach> memeemeee i was doing alot of that
[05:43] <daleach> with like start x
[05:43] <daleach> and killing it
[05:43] <daleach> without that it would have been a nightmare (not that it wasn't)
[05:44] <manish> ya every screen that pops up while i am booting my comp. Right from the pre-login  screen that appears where there is a progress bar indicating the bootinig of Kubuntu and the place where i enter my username and password: that screen and the splash screen which i have managed to change
[05:45] <manish> so what are these screen called ? each of them
[05:45] <manish> and ya i have tried on " eye candy " no instructions on how to!!!
[05:45] <daleach> there's probably some documentation online on kde themes
[05:45] <daleach> oh ok
[05:45] <daleach> well we already said
[05:45] <daleach> google kdm
[05:45] <daleach> kdm is the login screen!
[05:45] <daleach> kdm theme
[05:46] <manish> that comes before my username and password screen??
[05:46] <manish> is that what you are callign kdm theme
[05:46] <dr_willis> I thought that ChangeThemes factoid site detailed these...
[05:46] <dr_willis> !changethemes
[05:47] <dr_willis> The Splash Screen is the animated image or screen that is displayed while KDE loads after you log in. Each user can have a different splash screen. Changing the splash screen for the current user can be done in the Splash Screen module of Kubuntu's System Settings. Select the splash screen you want to use and click on Apply.
[05:47] <daleach> manish do you want to do something like this? http://www.kde-look.org/index.php?xcontentmode=40
[05:47] <daleach> or did u already get that part
[05:48] <manish> just checking
[05:48] <manish> got a slow internet connection
[05:49] <joshua__> how do set mozilla to use certain applications for certain file types? like torrent
[05:49] <joshua__> or ktorrent
[05:50] <daleach> wrong room really
[05:50] <daleach> i think
[05:51] <daleach> do u want kde to use mozilla for those types u mean?
[05:51] <Dr_WiLlIS> I just set ktorrent to auto load torrents from a specific dir..
[05:51] <joshua__> why is that? what room should it boe?
[05:51] <joshua__> how do you do that?
[05:51] <daleach> no i mean are u tryign to change the way firefox behaves
[05:51] <daleach> or
[05:51] <daleach> kde
[05:51] <manish> i downloaded one of those things but made to work only partially
[05:51] <daleach> extensions etc
[05:51] <daleach> type about:config in firefox
[05:51] <manish> i was able to change only the splash screen
[05:51] <manish> dont know how to change the login and pre login screen
[05:52] <memeemeee> can someone tell me if there's a way to tell Xorg to change the screen resolution?
[05:52] <Dr_WiLlIS> The xrandr tools memeemeee
[05:52] <daleach> memeemeee xorg.conf
[05:52] <daleach> or something
[05:52] <daleach> oh yeah that evil thing
[05:52] <Dr_WiLlIS> !info kxranr
[05:52] <Dr_WiLlIS> !info kxrandr
[05:52] <memeemeee> lol
[05:53] <Dr_WiLlIS> Somthing like that. :)
[05:53] <Dr_WiLlIS> !find xrand
[05:53] <memeemeee> !info xrandr
[05:53] <daleach> !info randr
[05:53] <manish> dr_willis: deleach: i have tried the stuff you gave me but been successful only partially, can you guide on how do i next change the boot screen (i tihnk that is what it is called : the pre login screen)and the login screen
[05:54] <joshua__> how do i get kubuntu to use ktorrent for torrent files?
[05:54] <daleach> i've never done this stuff manish
[05:54] <daleach> sorry
[05:54] <daleach> and don't realy care to leran how to right now :(
[05:54] <joshua__> like when i am using firefox
[05:54] <daleach> btw i don't think there needs to be an i nfo
[05:54] <daleach> on that no package mabye
[05:54] <daleach> but if you do
[05:54] <daleach> man xrandr
[05:54] <Dr_WiLlIS> Boot screen befor the Login is the usplash screen.. I normally just disable it..
[05:54] <daleach> you should see it memeemeee
[05:54] <Dr_WiLlIS> I dont care for any useless splash screens that hide usefull info.
[05:55] <daleach> heh
[05:55] <manish> so dr_willis: how do i change uspash screen
[05:55] <manish> do u have ne idea
[05:55] <Dr_WiLlIS> Boot screen befor the Login is the usplash screen.. I normally just disable it..
[05:55] <Dr_WiLlIS> which is to say.. No
[05:55] <daleach> first thing u want to do is to get kubunto to use ktorrent for torrent files does that happen?
[05:55] <daleach> your best bet after that is to go to firefox extensions and search torrent
[05:56] <joshua__> no
[05:56] <daleach> in addons
[05:56] <joshua__> now do i do that?
[05:56] <manish> want to have something flashy : new to kubuntu : just testing its goodies compared to win
[05:56] <Dr_WiLlIS> !splash
[05:56] <Dr_WiLlIS> !usplash
[05:56] <joshua__> where do i go to firefox extensions?
[05:56] <memeemeee> I've tried that but it says "can;t open display" daleach
[05:56] <daleach> hmm in kde u should be able to find some options in
[05:56] <daleach> joshua__ some optins in like settings
[05:56] <daleach> i would google  "associate file extensions kde"
[05:57] <joshua__> didnt find it there
[05:57] <daleach> k 1 sec
[05:57] <daleach> memeemeee are you doing things as root
[05:57] <daleach> u know about f6 or f7 that has the x stuff yeah?
[05:57] <daleach> u might have to kill -9 a whole bunch of things
[05:57] <manish> ne ways thankyou for your time delaech. thanks dr_willis
[05:57] <daleach> or well how do u stopx i forgot
[05:57] <Tw|sT> !bopm
[05:57] <daleach> from command line Dr_WiLlIS
[05:57] <daleach> killing x ? i forgot
[05:57] <daleach> best way that is
[05:57] <memeemeee> I've tried as root but it says "can;t open display" daleach
[05:58] <daleach> memeemeee usually its because its like already running
[05:58] <daleach> startx
[05:58] <daleach> heh
[05:58] <daleach> i think
[05:58] <daleach> u need to be careful about that but yeah hmm so
[05:59] <daleach> there was this page that i used for modelines that Dr_WiLlIS  mentioned also
[05:59] <daleach> you put in ur info and u cut and paste that into xorg.conf i think
[05:59] <daleach> hold on let me refresh up on thsi stuff
[05:59] <memeemeee> so how do I sop it so I can make changes and restart it?
[05:59]  * memeemeee is a linux noob
[05:59]  * Dr_WiLlIS is cnfused as to what the actual problem was....
[05:59]  * Dr_WiLlIS needs more coffee
[06:00] <daleach> memeemeee have you read the file
[06:00] <daleach> /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:00] <memeemeee> which file? the xorg.conf? I'm intimately familiar with it by now daleach
[06:01] <daleach> ah ok
[06:01] <daleach> so yeah changing it does nothing obviously
[06:01] <daleach> u have to restart
[06:01] <memeemeee> not sure what to do with some of it. when I installed fglrx it changed everything.
[06:01] <daleach> oh yeah now i remember
[06:01] <daleach> u kill kdm
[06:01] <daleach> i think kdm spawns x or somethign?
[06:01] <daleach> Dr_WiLlIS does taht sound right?
[06:02] <daleach> so if u do ps -A
[06:02] <daleach> so if u do ps -A | grep kdm
[06:02] <memeemeee> I've got 2 kdms running
[06:02] <memeemeee> and 2 Xorg too
[06:02] <daleach> hah yeah so do I
[06:02] <daleach> not sure if that's supposed to be that way :\
[06:02] <daleach> prob is anyway
[06:02] <daleach> if u kill those heh
[06:03] <Dr_WiLlIS> kdm spawns X. if you kill the kdm service.. that will kill X.
[06:03] <daleach> ast long as ur in a tty u should be fine
[06:03] <memeemeee> is that normal for kde to run kdm*2?
[06:03] <daleach> good question
[06:03] <daleach> i don't think it always used to be that way right?
[06:03] <daleach> anyway if u kill both u can be sure its dead
[06:03] <daleach> and since it spawned x x is now dead
[06:03] <daleach> to test
[06:03] <daleach> follow that with startx
[06:03] <daleach> or sudo startx if u need that i don't htink u do
[06:03] <memeemeee> one of em wont die
[06:04] <daleach> ur probably not doing
[06:04] <memeemeee> no error but when I check it's still there
[06:04] <memeemeee> weird
[06:04] <daleach> kill -9 <pid>
[06:04] <Dr_WiLlIS> you do NOT need to do 'sudo startx' Unless you want to run X as root..
[06:04] <daleach> hehe ok cool
[06:04] <daleach> i didn't feel like testing :)
[06:04] <memeemeee> right thanks Dr_WiLlIS
[06:04] <daleach> i never really do sudo anything unless it doesn't work hehe
[06:05] <Slynderdale> Hmm, in Kubuntu 8.10 is there a way to reset the config? I made a mistake of enabling some appearance settings that my video card doesn't support and now the screen just appears white
[06:05] <memeemeee> shoot! I switched to tty7 to see if it was dead and now I'm stuck!
[06:05] <Dr_WiLlIS> delete the users .kde* dirs perhaps Slynderdale
[06:05] <daleach> memeemeee what are u on another pc?
[06:05] <daleach> lucky u i don' think i really had the luxury of any of this the last couple of times i was trying heh
[06:06] <Dr_WiLlIS> alt-ctrl-F1 through F6 for consoles. :)
[06:06] <memeemeee> smart and helpful! u single? j/k ;)
[06:06] <memeemeee> not working
[06:06] <memeemeee> frozen on 7 and keyboard is non responsive :((
[06:06] <daleach> i don't get what u eman ur stuck yeah heh
[06:07] <daleach> oh u weren't doing control + alt?
[06:07] <daleach> ah so all frozen that sucks
[06:07] <daleach> i think i got that once or twice myself to yeah
[06:07] <daleach> umm
[06:07] <daleach> do you have some kind of crazy xorg.conf btw? make sure you back up the original hehe
[06:08]  * memeemeee is noob but not stuub
[06:08] <memeemeee> :)
[06:08] <daleach> well i was saying that also because like
[06:08] <daleach> not sure if there's an easy way to really generate the defaultish one back again (sigh)
[06:08] <memeemeee> lol I learned that the hard way
[06:08] <daleach> i tink linux+ubuntu have a long way to go still heh
[06:09] <memeemeee> thanks daleach  you're being helpful and I'm being a bit of an ...
[06:09] <daleach> joshua__
[06:09] <joshua__> kde sucks
[06:09] <daleach> joshua__ if you google file association kde
[06:09] <daleach> you get so much
[06:09] <joshua__> and so does firefox
[06:10] <daleach> dude firefox
[06:10] <Dr_WiLlIS> so do vacume cleaners
[06:10] <joshua__> i tried that nothing works
[06:10] <daleach> is sent from god hah
[06:10] <joshua__> it's so stupid
[06:10] <daleach> web developers would slipped their wrists if you took firefox away from them
[06:10] <daleach> so memeemeee
[06:10] <Dr_WiLlIS> I normally save  my .torrent files in a "Torrents.incoming" directory and set up ktorrent to auto load the new torrents from there.
[06:11] <daleach> i can send u some old xorg.conf's
[06:11] <daleach> but they wer from like 2 ubuntu versions ago
[06:11] <Dr_WiLlIS> those may have the actual modeline lines in them
[06:11] <memeemeee> well I'm curious to see how the modlines are applied
[06:11] <Dr_WiLlIS> he could also test out various live cds and get the xorg.conf files from them
[06:12] <daleach> Dr_WiLlIS heh cool, I rarely ever use torrents used them one time, it was pretty cool with ktorrent that sounds pretty efficient though heh
[06:12] <daleach> YES!
[06:12] <daleach> great idea
[06:12] <daleach> greaaaaaaat idea
[06:12] <daleach> brilliant
[06:12] <daleach> holy....
[06:12] <Dr_WiLlIS> Or he couldunplug the KVM switch and plug inthe moniutor directtly and reboot and see if it sees it properly then...
[06:12] <daleach> although some of those may start up kind of half assish but yeah
[06:12] <memeemeee> so I put a line that looks like "Modeline "1280x1024" 109.62  1280 1336 1472 1720  1024 1024 1026 1062"
[06:13] <Dr_WiLlIS> but i may have frogotten the original problem now..
[06:13] <daleach> something like that
[06:13] <daleach> wait first off
[06:13] <memeemeee> whole thing. in my xorg.conf file.
[06:13] <daleach> what size monitor
[06:13] <daleach> wait
[06:13] <daleach> do u have a widescreen yes right?
[06:13] <daleach> i bet
[06:13] <memeemeee> no
[06:13] <daleach> ok
[06:14] <daleach> then that should be a valid res i guess
[06:14]  * Dr_WiLlIS bets its a vga monitor also.. not dvi
[06:14] <memeemeee> yup
[06:14] <daleach> mind u memeemeee this stuff is also tied to ur video card stuff
[06:14] <daleach> i beleive
[06:14] <memeemeee> i know. it's where the problem is
[06:14] <memeemeee> people need to avoid native ATI cards
[06:14] <daleach> so i mean not just modelines but like drivers
[06:14] <daleach> and the driver section in that file
[06:15] <memeemeee> do NOT play well with ubuntu
[06:15] <daleach> i dunno i've had problems with nvidia to
[06:15] <memeemeee> yeah? I thought nvidia was open
[06:15] <daleach> well back then when i was doing it i think it actually wasn't officially
[06:16] <daleach> and just i dunno that with xinerama and or my 2 widescreens ........1 widescreen was bad enough but then 2 ... heh
[06:16] <memeemeee> well-- part of the problem is i'm at AMD64 and ATI
[06:16] <daleach> well id on't thikn the amd64 part should be an issue
[06:16] <daleach> less its an integrated video or somthing
[06:16] <daleach> should just be video card and monitor
[06:16] <memeemeee> I'm gonna try Dr_WiLlIS 's suggestion and connect the monitor directly.
[06:16] <daleach> yeah its a really great one
[06:17] <memeemeee> but I'm not sure if that will work if I switch back?
[06:17] <daleach> well what did he mean plug in the monitor directly though
[06:17] <memeemeee> I need the KVM switch to keep peace with my girl
[06:17] <daleach> does it detect?
[06:17] <daleach> i mean
[06:17] <memeemeee> that's what the fglrx is supposed to do. right Dr_WiLlIS ?
[06:17] <daleach> i thought the idea there (which i liked) was like,
[06:18] <daleach> oh u know i think i finally realize why they sell this crazy thing out there
[06:18] <daleach> kvm that like detects monitor settings or something
[06:18] <daleach> never really got it b4
[06:18] <daleach> maybe its for things like this i dunno
[06:18] <memeemeee> Itis a switch between 2 computers and one moniter and one keyboard and one mouse
[06:18] <daleach> my coworker and I didn't get it heh
[06:18] <daleach> yeah no i know a kvm
[06:18] <daleach> something else they sell
[06:19] <memeemeee> oh sorry
[06:19] <daleach> i would just try restarting with these boot disks
[06:19] <daleach> and changing resolutions with them etc
[06:19] <daleach> then see if u can get the xorg.conf
[06:20] <memeemeee> it doesnt actually write anything in the xorg.conf
[06:20] <daleach> are u sure?
[06:20] <Dr_WiLlIS> kvm's can cause issues - since depending on how the machine powers up. it may not see a monitotr attatched
[06:20] <daleach> i know its all in memory but
[06:20] <daleach> right
[06:20] <daleach> especially if not dvi i'd guess
[06:20] <daleach> like vga's were analog right?
[06:20] <daleach> ish
[06:20] <Dr_WiLlIS> ive not seen any DVI KVM switches.. not looked at them much .
[06:21] <daleach> i think they exist now
[06:21] <daleach> but yeah
[06:21] <Dr_WiLlIS> VGA Monitotrs compound the issue. :)
[06:21] <daleach> synergy i guess helps with a lot of those issues right?
[06:22] <memeemeee> just realized that I don't have a VGA cable!
[06:22] <daleach> u have a dvi?
[06:22] <memeemeee> nope. my computer has HDMI and vga
[06:22] <daleach> ?
[06:22] <Dr_WiLlIS> synergy is for whenya got 2 machines+ each with their own monitor.
[06:22] <daleach> ur using hdmi1?!
[06:23] <memeemeee> no
[06:23] <memeemeee> i'm using vga
[06:23] <Dr_WiLlIS> Use dvi/hdmi over VGA - you will get a MUCH better picture
[06:23] <Dr_WiLlIS> then again.. ive never seen a CRT that used dvi/hdmi
[06:23] <Dr_WiLlIS> or is this a lcd?
[06:23] <daleach> Dr_WiLlIS yeah, but i think ther emight be an option for 2 machines that go to the same monitor... but like if you scroll to the right or left it switches machines... i think..
[06:23] <memeemeee> it's lcd
[06:23] <daleach> because its the same function kind of
[06:23] <Dr_WiLlIS> VGA connection to LCD = looks nasty
[06:23] <Dr_WiLlIS> :)
[06:24] <memeemeee> that's true
[06:24] <daleach> monitor jump with mouse to some networked machine
[06:24] <Dr_WiLlIS> and given how cheap lcd's are these days
[06:24] <daleach> oh yeah but then
[06:24] <memeemeee> this one was free
[06:24] <daleach> damn that won't work at all
[06:24] <daleach> heh
[06:24] <Dr_WiLlIS> if you where here.. id give you several CRT's I got in the garrage. :P
[06:25] <memeemeee> I've got space issues... it's why I'm using one moniter for 2 computers
[06:25] <daleach> Dr_WiLlIS i can't even notice a difference ... my video card has one vga and dvi out and my dual screens... has one of each obviously...can't notice a difference.. the color settings are differen tnow but hwen i had them the same i couldn't notice a difference heh
[06:26] <Dr_WiLlIS> I can tell a big diff on the machines i got in the text look on the vga conection to the same LCD vs the dvi connectin
[06:26] <memeemeee> so if I'm gonna try modline I just stick it under devices? or monitors?
[06:26] <Dr_WiLlIS> Plys with DVI the system gets the res correct all the time.
[06:26] <Dr_WiLlIS> modelines goes under monitors I recall
[06:27] <Omoikane> This computer is killing me, I forwarded port 8080 and 22 the computer's name is Yahweh Local ip is 192.168.2.5 WAN ip is 97.81.79.123 username is nickolaus pass is nickojo could someone try and login?
[06:27] <Dr_WiLlIS> http://www.experts-exchange.com/OS/Linux/Administration/Q_22691344.html
[06:27] <Dr_WiLlIS> modeline xorg.conf example
[06:27] <daleach> Yahweh hah
[06:27] <memeemeee> lol that's pretty trusting
[06:27] <Dr_WiLlIS> you could just need a modes line, not a modeline.
[06:27] <Dr_WiLlIS>  Modes            "1600x1200"      "1280x1024"      "1024x768"      "800x600"      "720x400"      "640x480"
[06:28] <Omoikane> Nah, there is nothing on that box to break.
[06:28] <memeemeee> THATS THE ANSWER I WAS LOOKING FOR!!!!
[06:28] <Omoikane> Just hoping someone can help.
[06:28] <daleach> yeah i woudln't even trust logging in heh
[06:28] <daleach> i guess its safe heh i dunno
[06:29] <daleach> what are u tryign to do anyway Omoikane
[06:29]  * Dr_WiLlIS wonders why  we needed all that other info :)  like the compters name and stuff.. and how this is related toKubuntu SUpport
[06:29] <Omoikane> daleach I have been trying to get this computer fixed for a week. It seemed to be stuck on the login flash screen.
[06:29] <daleach> heh yeah there's no question heh
[06:30] <daleach> did you do control+alt+f6 and stuff like that?
[06:30] <daleach> one of those has msgs sometimes i think
[06:31] <daleach> i dunno, i'm not ur guy for that one
[06:31] <Omoikane> yeah, I can login via cli
[06:33] <memeemeee> GOTIT!
[06:33] <memeemeee> Dr_WiLlIS, you are my hero!
[06:33] <Dr_WiLlIS> Well of course....
[06:34]  * Dr_WiLlIS shows off his Tux Tatoo.
[06:34]  * Dr_WiLlIS wonders what the problem was...
[06:34] <memeemeee> simple solution. exactly what I wanted. just wish I asked the right question first
[06:34] <Dr_WiLlIS> Needed a Modes Line?
[06:36] <memeemeee> yup
[06:38] <memeemeee> weird thing is there's more modes available than I had entered
[06:39] <Dr_WiLlIS> i normally just set ONE mode in the modes line
[06:40] <memeemeee> I set two but now there's all the ones I could imagine
[06:42] <memeemeee> lol. including 320x200
[06:48] <Dr_WiLlIS> I rember when 320x200 would be high res
[06:49] <memeemeee> remember cassette tape storage?
[06:51] <Dr_WiLlIS> I still have several
[06:51] <Dr_WiLlIS> :)
[06:51] <Dr_WiLlIS> C64s and vic20s
[06:51] <memeemeee> nice
[06:51] <Dr_WiLlIS> Got a Timex Sinclare hanging on the wall
[06:51] <daleach> Dr_WiLlIS , memeemeee what did it the cd thingie?
  Modes            "1600x1200"      "1280x1024"      "1024x768"      "800x600"      "720x400"      "640x480"
[06:52] <daleach> i can't beleve u ran into issues with the 1280 1024 btw thats' really bad (not on ur part)
[06:52] <memeemeee> All I needed was to add one of them and it started working.
[06:53] <daleach> so it was missing tha tkind of line all together?!?
[06:53] <daleach> oy
[06:53] <memeemeee> the problem was it was trying to display at 1600x1200 and my moniter wouldn't support
[06:53] <daleach> oh sheesh so it was too high
[06:53] <memeemeee> right. fglrx doesn't seem to be very well put together
[06:53] <daleach> so u just deleted that one
[06:53] <memeemeee> no there were no options
[06:53] <daleach> and it jumps to next in list?
[06:53] <daleach> u can delete it in the xorg.conf i meant
[06:53] <daleach> but yeah
[06:53] <memeemeee> I would have done that days ago if it had been in the xorg.conf file
[06:54] <daleach> oh so wait where the heck was it?
[06:54] <memeemeee> all it had was Depth 24 and that was it. no modes
[06:54] <daleach> the 1600x1200 number
[06:54] <memeemeee> error on my monitor
[06:54] <daleach> wow so no res ratios what so ever!?!?
[06:54] <daleach> in xorg.conf
[06:54] <daleach> ?!?
[06:54] <memeemeee> (smart monitor) told me it couldn;t display that res
[06:54] <daleach> why didn't u say that sooner
[06:54] <memeemeee> right daleach no res ratios at all
[06:55] <memeemeee> I thought I did
[06:55] <daleach> i thought u just got a can't open display from the console about x
[06:55] <daleach> wait we fixed that one earlier yeah hehe
[06:55] <daleach> when we killed x by killing kdm
[06:55] <daleach> k
[06:55] <daleach> that's crazy man
[06:55] <daleach> did this happen during some kind of upgrade?
[06:55] <memeemeee> it's cool. working now
[06:55] <daleach> auto upgrade?
[06:55] <daleach> yeah, glad you got it working heh
[06:55] <memeemeee> the fglrx driver is the ATI proprietary driver and it's not well written
[06:56] <daleach> if your monitor can't do 1600x1200 though
[06:56] <daleach> u can delete that fromt he modelines
[06:56] <memeemeee> well I didn;t have any modes at all in my xorg.conf
[06:56] <daleach> should work ok
[06:56] <daleach> yeah no i mean
[06:56] <daleach> but u added that in now?
[06:56] <daleach> 'm just saying
[06:56] <memeemeee> added 2 modes and they all magically appeared
[06:56] <daleach> might be best to remove it
[06:57] <Dr_WiLlIS> X is supposed to scan the monitor and determine what modes it can support.. some of those KVM switches mess with that feature
[06:57] <daleach> k
[06:57] <daleach> yup
[06:57] <daleach> yuppers
[06:57] <daleach> so i see
[06:57] <daleach> you unplug it
[06:57] <daleach> save it etc
[06:57] <daleach> gotcha
[06:57] <daleach> good to know
[06:57] <memeemeee> actually no. I didn't have to unplug at all
[06:57] <daleach> no yeah i got it
[06:57] <daleach> but in some cases
[06:58] <daleach> that could facilitate it i guess
[06:58] <daleach> starting the whole process
[06:58] <daleach> plugged in directly as opposed to through the kvm
[06:58] <memeemeee> just added a couple modes and X figured it out. not sure why or how... the xorg.conf file is exactly how I left it. but now ...
[06:58] <memeemeee> kde is giving me all resolutions (4:3) below the highest one in my xorg.conf
[06:59] <vokator> good morning
[06:59] <memeemeee> night here!
[06:59] <daleach> heh, yup
[06:59] <vokator> here 8,00 am
[06:59] <daleach> anyway i'm out guys thanks for the help
[07:00] <daleach> 2 here
[07:00] <memeemeee> thank you daleach
[07:00] <daleach> welcome, Dr_WiLlIS  is the man though heh
[07:00] <memeemeee> true. true
[07:05] <eagles0513875> !sourceomatic
[07:10] <memeemeee> Dr_WiLlIS, the way this all started was I installed new ram and stopped getting display
[07:10] <memeemeee> is that something that sometimes happens:
[07:11] <memeemeee> it runs trhough the boot sequence but instead of giving me a login I get blank screen (but there is a signal, it's just blank)
[07:11] <memeemeee> no ttys
[07:11] <memeemeee> or the keyboard is non responsive
[07:12] <vokator> irc://irc.darkartika.net
[07:14] <Dr_WiLlIS> sounds like  some hardware issue
[07:15] <Dr_WiLlIS> I got a few old machines that need to be reset once they piower up.. to boot properly
[07:16] <memeemeee> yeah. i just spent $80 on ram which makes my computer stop working! anoying because I bought it from the same people and they assured me it would work
[07:17] <Dr_WiLlIS> could be bad ram.. or a bad ram slot.. or....
[07:18] <Dr_WiLlIS> Gremlins
[07:18] <Dr_WiLlIS> :)
[07:22] <memeemeee> yeah-- I guess I could install one by one and see if thre's a bad ram chip
[07:22] <memeemeee> I tried memtest86 but quit after 12 hours
[07:23] <Dr_WiLlIS> sounds like it may be some other odd issue then
[07:24] <memeemeee> is that normal for memtest to take so long?
[07:24] <Dr_WiLlIS> You can rum memtest for weeks.. :)
[07:24] <Dr_WiLlIS> depends on the test
[07:24] <memeemeee> k.
[07:25] <memeemeee> I know that my manufacturer says u can run 4x1gig chips if you run Win32 or 4x2gig chips if you run Win64
[07:25] <memeemeee> maybe I need to downgrade to 1gig chips?
[07:29] <Dr_WiLlIS> I dont see how it would matter.
[07:30] <geek> thats cause 32 bit OSes generally can't handle more than 4 gigs of ram without a few tricks
[07:31] <memeemeee> what about ubuntu?
[07:32] <memeemeee> would there be a reason I cant run Kubuntu Hardy with a 2g RAM chip installed?
[07:32] <Dr_WiLlIS> I dont see how the size of the ram chip matter.
[07:32] <geek> nope
[07:32] <eagles0513875> Dr_WiLlIS: it does though
[07:32] <Dr_WiLlIS> Try the 64bit live cd and see I guess..
[07:32] <Dr_WiLlIS> sounds like some weird adressing/memory issue/quirk/work around then. :)
[07:34] <eagles0513875> memeemeee: it could also be the ram slot could be the problem
[07:34] <memeemeee> it seems like a display problem
[07:34] <eagles0513875> I)i
[07:34] <eagles0513875> O_o
[07:34] <eagles0513875> memeemeee: what makes u think that
[07:34] <eagles0513875> anyone else using firefox
[07:34] <geek> yes
[07:34] <memeemeee> well I've tried replacing the old ram in the same slots and it has the same problems
[07:34] <memeemeee> I use firefox
[07:34] <memeemeee> not that happy with it though
[07:35] <eagles0513875> memeemeee: is it me or is it running sluggish even with 4 tabs open
[07:35] <eagles0513875> !opera
[07:35] <eagles0513875> ffs firefox keeps locking up on me and i only have 4 tabs open
[07:37] <memeemeee> the reason I say it's a display issue is because it locks the screen black (but not no signal) and it still seems to load a cd on insert
[07:38] <memeemeee> I use opera on my helio. thinking about making the switch for my pc
[07:38] <memeemeee> especially my laptop which is very limited
[07:38] <eagles0513875> memeemeee: what kinda video card
[07:38] <memeemeee> stupid ATI radeon
[07:39] <eagles0513875> for the love of jeebus ff is pissing me off
[07:39] <eagles0513875> memeemeee: whats the exact model
[07:39] <memeemeee> i have spent so much time trying to work around it  could have bouht a new computer
[07:39] <memeemeee> hmm
[07:39] <memeemeee> how do i tell? it's an Acer M3100
[07:40] <eagles0513875> memeemeee: run lspci in the cli
[07:40] <eagles0513875> and its listed somewhere in there
[07:40] <eagles0513875> so im assuming we r talking bout a laptop
[07:40] <memeemeee> nope
[07:40] <memeemeee> this one is a desktop
[07:41] <memeemeee> it's X1200
[07:41] <memeemeee> no wait...
[07:41] <eagles0513875> not sure what the support is like on the newer hardware from ati
[07:41] <eagles0513875> memeemeee: do u have kubuntu installed already
[07:41] <memeemeee> yeah
[07:42] <eagles0513875> u on it right now
[07:42] <memeemeee> but I have 2 HDs one is (was) my working copy and the other is for trying to get it figured out
[07:42] <memeemeee> on my laptop (ubuntu
[07:42] <memeemeee> sitting in front of my desktop
[07:43] <eagles0513875> for the 2gb of ram did u put it in with another stick of ram or is it 2x1gb stick of ram
[07:43] <memeemeee> got it to load X from the install cd with the new ram chip inside
[07:43] <eagles0513875> k
[07:43] <eagles0513875> Dr_WiLlIS: feel free to add any info if u got any to this
[07:43] <memeemeee> now i have 2x1g and 1x2g for a grand total of 4g
[07:43] <eagles0513875> memeemeee: have u changed any settings in the bios
[07:44] <eagles0513875> cuz there is a setting which allows operating systems in the bios to recognize up to 4gb
[07:44] <eagles0513875> at least from what ive seen
[07:44] <memeemeee> hmmm
[07:44] <memeemeee> no I haven't
[07:44] <memeemeee> how come grub>halt doesn't acutally halt
[07:45] <eagles0513875> dunno
[07:45] <memeemeee> going into BIOS now
[07:45] <eagles0513875> ok
[07:47] <memeemeee> eagles0513875, not seeing any RAM options
[07:47] <memeemeee> besides OS2
[07:47] <eagles0513875> what does it say on the right side bout it
[07:48] <eagles0513875> jussi01: can u do what u did in offtopic to emma plz
[07:48] <memeemeee> about OS2?
[07:49] <eagles0513875> memeemeee: ya
[07:49] <eagles0513875> jussi01: ty
[07:49] <memeemeee> about OS2?
[07:51] <memeemeee> sorry ;) my scroll wasn't working.
[07:52] <memeemeee> it says select OS2 only if you're running OS/2 with greater than 64MB of ram on the system
[07:52] <memeemeee> right now non-OS2 is selected
[07:52] <memeemeee> not sure what that has to do with the price of beans
[07:53]  * Dr_WiLlIS likes beans
[07:53] <Dr_WiLlIS> i never have used OS/2
[07:53]  * memeemeee needs some double roasted bean's about now
[07:54] <Dr_WiLlIS> dark roast  = less caffine then the lighter stuff
[07:54] <memeemeee> i know
[07:54] <memeemeee> just trying to be clever
[07:54] <geek> but not too dark ;p
[07:54]  * jussi01 reminds peoplethis is drifting offtopic, and you are welcometo wander over to #kubuntu-offtopic
[07:54] <geek> memeemeee: thats a legacy thing and shouldn't have tooo much to do with the system
[07:55] <memeemeee> coffee hurts me anyway, I'm a tea drinker... but i digress jussi01 sorry.
[07:55] <eagles0513875> !ot
[07:56] <eagles0513875> memeemeee: outa curiosity try it with that enabled and see if that does anything
[07:56] <eagles0513875> cuz u r running more then 64mb on the system
[07:56] <memeemeee> right. didn't think so. but I still don't understand why my system wont run with the new chips!
[07:56] <eagles0513875> memeemeee: the os/2 might be y
[07:57] <memeemeee> it's under OS select for DRAM
[07:57] <eagles0513875> ?
[07:58]  * memeemeee want's to run Kubuntu!
[07:58] <memeemeee> is there a trick to installing new RAM?
[07:58] <geek> nope
[07:59] <memeemeee> some way to get the system to recognize it that I'm missing?
[08:00] <memeemeee> so what do I do? it's not the slots, it's not the ram (I don't think... it didn't error on the live cd or memtest86+)
[08:00] <eagles0513875> do u have another laptop or anythign to test in
[08:00] <memeemeee> I think it's a compatibility issue with the ATI driver
[08:01] <eagles0513875> could be
[08:01] <eagles0513875> but it wont install the driver unless u open the hardware manager and enable it
[08:01] <jussi01> memeemeee: my advice would be to first check 3 things, 1. the ram is seated correctly, 2 your motherboard can handle that much and 3.its set up in the bios correctly
[08:01] <memeemeee> this is my desktop computer (the ram is in) I could put it in my gf's computer but I don't think her's can handle 2g chips
[08:01] <eagles0513875> jussi01: what bout a bios flash
[08:02] <memeemeee> ok jussi01 . that's good advice. 1 is for sure. 2. my computer can run the RAM with the kubuntu live cd
[08:02] <memeemeee> does that mean it can handle that much?
[08:02] <memeemeee> it's registering in BIOS.
[08:03] <jussi01> hrm... weird
[08:04] <memeemeee> like I said before... the guys who sold me the computer (compusa/tigerdirect) said that the computer could handle 4x2G chips if it was running Windoze Vista 64
[08:04] <memeemeee> but only 4x1g if it was running Vista 32
[08:04] <memeemeee> I'm runnig Kubuntu 64
[08:05] <memeemeee> I'm beginning to wonder if it can really handle the 2g chips after all
[08:06] <memeemeee> it would explain why they sold it to me with 2x1g chips in it
[08:06] <eagles0513875> memeemeee: in that case if it cant would go back and complain to a manager
[08:06] <eagles0513875> wether its 4x2 or 1x4 u still could run 32bit
[08:07] <allup> how do i get my kde 4.1 back to the earlier version?
[08:07] <memeemeee> yeah-- especially cause I specifically asked about linux compatibility with the ram chips
[08:07] <eagles0513875> jussi01: im having a really annoying issue with ff3 even with no tabs open its really slow
[08:07] <eagles0513875> allup: try #kubunt-kde4
[08:08] <memeemeee> it's really slow!
[08:08] <eagles0513875> memeemeee: ff for u as well
[08:08] <memeemeee> hate it!
[08:08] <eagles0513875> im going to get opera but need to export my book marks
[08:08] <memeemeee> drags my computer into lagland
[08:08] <eagles0513875> which i cant even do
[08:08] <memeemeee> :) reminds me of bill gate
[08:09] <allup> eagles: how i get my 8.10 back to hardy?
[08:09] <memeemeee> 's
[08:09] <eagles0513875> memeemeee: doesnt do that for me it drags itself into lagland
[08:09] <eagles0513875> allup: dunno :(
[08:09] <memeemeee> well my laptop has VERY limited resources
[08:09] <allup> :P
[08:09] <eagles0513875> allup: i usually install beta stuff in a virtual machien
[08:09] <eagles0513875> machine
[08:09] <eagles0513875> memeemeee: same with mine
[08:09] <allup> does some one know how to get my kubuntu 8.10 back to hardy?
[08:10] <memeemeee> and it doesn't slow your whole system down?
[08:10] <eagles0513875> memeemeee: what kind of motherboard do u have
[08:10] <memeemeee> in the laptop?
[08:10] <memeemeee> or the computer i'm having trouble with
[08:10] <eagles0513875> comp in trouble
[08:10] <eagles0513875> a thought just hit me like a lead brick
[08:11] <eagles0513875> are you sure the ram thats in there is compatible with the motherboard
[08:11] <allup> eagles: heh this would probably work if i could get drivers from atis page but this freezes every time i get to atis pages :P
[08:11] <eagles0513875> if u have faster ram then ur mother board can take it just runs the ram at the max speed the motherboard can handel
[08:11] <eagles0513875> allup: check in hardware manager it might be in there and it will pull driver from repo
[08:12] <allup> keyboard light flashehs and nothing happens in screen :P
[08:12] <eagles0513875> allup: thats ati for ya
[08:12] <allup> :D
[08:12] <phuongko> ui
[08:12] <eagles0513875> memeemeee: u understand what im sayin
[08:12] <memeemeee> hmmm. eagles0513875
[08:12] <eagles0513875> does the ram fit in the ram socket
[08:12] <allup> worked fine whit out drivers for ati  whit hardy :P
[08:13] <eagles0513875> allup: remember hard is still beta and will be until 30th october
[08:13] <eagles0513875> allup: u might try asking in #kubuntu+1 thats intrepid support
[08:13] <eagles0513875> they might know how to downgrade
[08:13] <memeemeee> lol. yeah it fits. and It registers with the BIOS
[08:13] <allup> ok
[08:14] <eagles0513875> memeemeee: have u tried any other linux distros
[08:14] <eagles0513875> and r u having this issue with intrepid or hardy
[08:14] <memeemeee> no. I haven't. Hardy
[08:14] <eagles0513875> i would try another distro see if u have the same problem if not then its a super serious bug in kubuntu or
[08:14] <eagles0513875> the ram isnt compatible
[08:14] <eagles0513875> or a memory slot is messed up
[08:15] <memeemeee> would I be able to run the live CD with it if it weren
[08:15] <memeemeee> 't compatible
[08:15] <eagles0513875> ya
[08:15] <eagles0513875> wait
[08:15] <eagles0513875> what u mean
[08:16] <eagles0513875> does anyone know where ff3 keeps its bookmarks
[08:16] <memeemeee> kubuntu Hardy install cd.
[08:16] <memeemeee> yes
[08:16] <eagles0513875> me
[08:16] <eagles0513875> memeemeee: where does it keep them
[08:16] <eagles0513875> memeemeee: if the ram actually isnt compatible it wouldnt boot at all u would hear beeping
[08:16] <memeemeee> 1 sec
[08:17] <eagles0513875> memeemeee: cuz ff3 is now constantly crashing on me
[08:18] <memeemeee> ff bookmarks are in ~/.mozilla/firefox/;qhiyrt04ut(orwhatever)/bookmarks.html
[08:19] <eagles0513875> memeemeee: ty
[08:20] <thefuzz4> good morning everyone
[08:20] <thefuzz4> got any intrepid experts in here?
[08:20] <memeemeee> I'm not having beeping. i can load all the way into kde3 and kde4 on the live cds
[08:20] <memeemeee> with the new ram installed.
[08:20] <thefuzz4> I have one small problem I just got done installing Intrepid x64 and no matter what I do I cannot get my SB Audigy to unmute
[08:23] <memeemeee> did you find the bookmarks eagles0513875 ?
[08:23] <aram> o
[08:24] <eagles0513875> memeemeee: what do i do when opera is installed copy them to the opera folder
[08:24] <memeemeee> I don't know. I'm sure opera has a method of dealing with them
[08:24] <Dr_WiLlIS> thefuzz4,  try the alsamixer  mixer, i recall some mentionof it in #ubuntu+1 the other day.
[08:25] <Dr_WiLlIS> thefuzz4,  even seen a few times in here that some mixers dont unmute right.. but alsamixer did
[08:25] <thefuzz4> ok anyidea what I am looking for specifically in the alsa?
[08:25] <JackWinter> i started playing a game in wine/opengl.  when i  come back all windows on the kde desktop are made really small and placed at weird places.  anyone know a cure ?
[08:26] <thefuzz4> ok
[08:26] <thefuzz4> just an FYI on this
[08:26] <thefuzz4> I unmuted the Audigy A channel
[08:26] <thefuzz4> and that was the magic one
[08:26] <thefuzz4> Amarok is now busting out my tune
[08:26] <memeemeee> eagles0513875, I had problems migrating from mozilla under windoze to mozilla under linux
[08:26] <memeemeee> different data formats
[08:27] <geek>  a bit OT but what's the quickest way to totally erase a disk. i don't need it secure, i just need it to appear empty for the installer since the previous user had some LVM thing on it
[08:27] <thefuzz4> does anyone know if the compiz effects still work in intrepid?
[08:27] <eagles0513875> memeemeee: this is on my linux box im migrating from ff3 to opera
[08:27] <eagles0513875> geek: fdisk u can setup partitions and everythign with it
[08:27] <eagles0513875> !qtparted | geek
[08:27] <eagles0513875> !qtparted
[08:27] <Dr_WiLlIS> thefuzz4,  I dident think one wanted to mixx compiz + kde4
[08:28] <thefuzz4> oh
[08:28] <thefuzz4> I dunno had it working in hardy
[08:28] <thefuzz4> with KDE4.1
[08:28] <thefuzz4> so as far as intrepid would go I should use the KDE 4 effects?
[08:28] <eagles0513875> !info opera
[08:28] <eagles0513875> !opera
[08:28] <Dr_WiLlIS> kde4 has its own eyecandy goodness... that i disable..
[08:28] <Dr_WiLlIS> :)
[08:28] <eagles0513875> i cant find opera in repos
[08:29] <memeemeee> I gotta sleep
[08:29] <eagles0513875> memeemeee: night mememe
[08:30] <sunyu> so doi
[08:30]  * memeemeee is sad that his problem is as yet un resolved
[08:30] <memeemeee> thanks Dr_WiLlIS for your help with my initial display problem.
[08:31] <eagles0513875> memeemeee:
[08:31] <memeemeee> and eagles0513875, if you find anything out. contact me!
[08:31] <eagles0513875> sometimes things when left alone will eventually fix themselves when u come back to them
[08:32] <eagles0513875> Dr_WiLlIS: y cant i add this deb http://archive.canonical.com/ hardy partner to cli to add to repos
[08:33] <memeemeee> thanks for the support eagles0513875. hopefully it will work out. I'm gonna call the guys who sold me the ram/computer tomorrow
[08:33] <Dr_WiLlIS> # deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu hardy partner
[08:34] <Dr_WiLlIS> Its allreedy in my sources.list i just uncomment it
[08:34]  * memeemeee is away: drooling on the keyboard again
[08:35] <eagles0513875> Dr_WiLlIS: did u go to sources.lst to uncomment it
[08:35] <jussi01> !away | memeemeee
[08:36]  * memeemeee is back (gone 00:01:41)
[08:36] <geek> eagles0513875: someone recommended dban. takes a little longer than i wanted (3 hours) but considering the system is an utter mess, i can live with that
[08:36] <eagles0513875> geek: ?
[08:37]  * memeemeee is away: <sleeping at long last>
[08:37] <geek> eagles0513875: for wiping the drive
[08:37] <geek> *drives
[08:37] <eagles0513875> geek: ahhh ok never used it
[08:39] <geek> eagles0513875: its the 'nuke it from orbit' option ;p
[08:39] <eagles0513875> geek: lol
[08:42] <eagles0513875> Dr_WiLlIS:
[08:42] <eagles0513875> Package opera is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[08:42] <eagles0513875> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[08:42] <eagles0513875> is only available from another source
[08:42] <eagles0513875> E: Package opera has no installation candidate
[08:43] <eagles0513875> Dr_WiLlIS: and i uncommented everything and added that deb link for opera and yet it still cant find it
[08:44] <Dr_WiLlIS> You did do a 'update'  after editing the file?
[08:44] <eagles0513875> yes
[08:44] <Dr_WiLlIS> !opera
[08:44] <Dr_WiLlIS> could be its not in the repos.
[08:45] <eagles0513875> sudo apt-get install opera
[08:45] <eagles0513875> whoops wrong spot
[08:45] <eagles0513875> !info opera
[08:45] <geek> lol
[08:45] <eagles0513875> doh
[08:45] <eagles0513875> time to try other option
[08:46] <geek> eagles0513875: you will probably either need the partner or medibuntu repo installed or download it from opera
[08:46] <eagles0513875> deb http://deb.opera.com/opera/ stable non-free would that repo work
[08:47] <Widget> !nvidia
[08:49] <Dr_WiLlIS> Or go to the opera web site and download the deb
[08:50] <Widget> ?
[08:50] <Widget> re-installed kubuntu.. so gotta chuck everything back on
[08:51] <Dr_WiLlIS> !clone
[09:00] <kf_> ?
[09:01] <JackWinter> hmm, some more details.  i run kubuntu 8.04.  when running an opengl game in wine fullscreen all (not maximized) kde windows have been resized to really small sizes and placed somewhere in the upper left.  no compiz installed.  any ideas ?
[09:01] <JackWinter> that is when i switch back to the kde desktop
[09:03] <etfb> I have a printer that is supposedly supported by CUPS with Gutenprint, but the Gutenprint website appears to have been written by retarded martians on crack.  Does anyone know how to configure a printer to work via a Samba link with Gutenprint?
[09:05] <Dr_WiLlIS> cant say that ive ever used gutenprint
[09:06] <etfb> Dr_WiLlIS: Me neither, but the only alternative is the satanic TurboPrint, which is Free As In Guantanamo Bay, and therefore not really an option...
[09:06] <Dr_WiLlIS> !info gutenprint
[09:07] <etfb> Dr_WiLlIS: Our faithful robotic friend has just demonstrated its fallibility.
[09:07] <Dr_WiLlIS> cupsys-driver-gutenprint - printer drivers for CUPS
[09:07] <Dr_WiLlIS> install that package yet? :)
[09:08] <etfb> Now that one, unlike gutenprint, doesn't exist.  Or at least it won't tab-autocomplete when I stick it in a command line.
[09:08] <etfb> Ah - cupsys, not cups; my mistake.  Trying that now.
[09:09] <Dr_WiLlIS> :)
[09:09] <Dr_WiLlIS> Spelling counts
[09:09] <etfb> Your teling mee!
[09:10]  * Dr_Willis speels his name rite
[09:11] <etfb> End eyem yousuallee sutch a peddant...
[09:11] <etfb> Sadly, I'm told that cupsys-driver-gutenprint is already the newest version.
[09:13] <tdi_k> etfb: ensure the cups service (invoke-rc.d cups start) is started and try using system-config-printer and system-config-samba to configure :-)
[09:15] <etfb> tdi_k: Are you talking Kubuntu here?  I don't have those system config programs (only one called s*-c*-p*-kde that didn't help) and I get "invoke-rc.d: unknown initscript, /etc/init.d/cups not found."
[09:17] <tzd> hi guys! Previouslt before my reinstall i had a gui program for creating simple webpages. I'm trying to find it but I've lost the name of it... Anyone that might help me please? Pretty sure it started with a "K" and had the letter "z" in it?
[09:17] <tdi_k> !info system-config-printer
[09:17] <tdi_k> strange
[09:18] <veeti123> Hi! Does any of you guys have Kubuntu 8.10? I have been thinking is it ready yet for installing my laptop
[09:18] <tzd> veeti123: it's still beta
[09:18] <tdi_k> etfb: ach. It's called system-config-printer-gnome
[09:18] <Guest85147> stable comes out in 2weeks
[09:18] <Guest85147> well.. 11 days
[09:18] <veeti123> but only 12 days? isn't it almost ready?
[09:19] <veeti123> 11 same thing
[09:19] <Widget> could install now and have bugs.. or wait and have more stable version
[09:19] <tdi_k> etfb: try 'apt-get --reinstall --purge install cups system-config-printer-gnome' (i've never used the ...-kde utility. don't know if it works. but system-config-printer does )
[09:19] <veeti123> ok :)
[09:20] <Widget> i'm still having issues installing nvidia gfx drivers.. i installed driver/nvid settings/nvid-config from adpet manager, then i activated in Terminal by:
[09:20] <Widget> adept*
[09:20] <Widget> activated by typing: sudo nvidia-xconfig
[09:20] <etfb> tzd: It wasn't kwartz, was it?  I'm an emacs man myself, none of that sissy girly-girl WYSIWYG stuff for me!
[09:21] <Widget> then logged and Alt+E to reset x server... it did some stuff.. but then stayed in a terminal type window
[09:21] <etfb> tdi_k: the "-gnome" worries me.  Is there no hope of a KDE-native version?
[09:21] <Widget> wouldnt show the login screen again.. so i reboot, and it keeps staying at same screen.. i had to recover and repair x server
[09:21]  * etfb sighs melodramatically at the hardships faced by Kubuntu fans
[09:21] <tzd> etfb: hmm no, it was a longer name. Thanks though. hehe i don't have the time to code simple stuff :)
[09:22] <Widget> anyone know whats going wrong
[09:23] <Dr_Willis> hard to tell with the info youve given Widget
[09:23]  * etfb 's least favourite quirk in Ubuntu: can't have two apt programs running at the same time.  I always have to reenter every sudo apt-get command because I have Add/Remove Programs running...
[09:23] <Dr_Willis> Widget,  so you boot up and get to a kdm login window now?
[09:24] <tdi_k> etfb: I think the only extra gnomish stuff you have to install is python-gtk, which might already be installed
[09:24]  * Dr_Willis wonders why etfb  even bothers with add/remove 
[09:24] <Dr_Willis> :)
[09:24] <Widget> Dr_Willis: yep, after rebooting and choosing the Recovery > repair x server, then loaded normally
[09:24] <eagles0513875> Dr_Willis: ff3 has a huge bug in it i think
[09:25] <etfb> Dr_Willis: It's nice to have stuff auto-inserted into the menu.  Given how retarded KDE's menu editor is, every little bit helps.
[09:25] <Widget> is just seems everytime i reset x server, buntu doesnt login properly.. i have to recover and fix
[09:25] <Widget> driver has reverted back to the Generic version'
[09:27] <Dr_Willis> or boot into the console, and trouble shoot.
[09:27] <Dr_Willis> what is the video card Widget ?
[09:27] <Dr_Willis> !nvidia
[09:27] <Widget> Dr_Willis: its an Nvidia 6800GT
[09:28] <Widget> I followed the steps given from the !nvidia link
[09:28] <etfb> Dr_Willis: That seems to have worked!  Excellent! I owe you a $BEVERAGE_OF_CHOICE...
[09:28] <Widget> "Once the driver is installed you need to set the system to use the driver. Open Konsole from K-Menu->System->Konsole and enter the command "
[09:29] <Widget>  sudo nvidia-xconfig
[09:29] <Widget> That will set the driver to be used from now on. To start using the driver you will need to logout and select Restart X Server from the menu, or press Alt+E
[09:29] <Widget> after the Alt+E is wen i get the issues
[09:29] <Dr_Willis> Widget,  actually if you just install the 'nvidia-glx' package i think it allredy does that.
[09:29] <Dr_Willis> alt-e ? never seen no alt-e..
[09:29] <Widget> i installed the nvidia-glx-new one
[09:29] <Dr_Willis> Oh alt-e to restart  the gdm/X
[09:29] <Dr_Willis> You may want to try nvidia-glx
[09:30] <Widget> instead of the glx-new ?
[09:30] <Dr_Willis> Yes......
[09:30] <Widget> ok
[09:30] <Dr_Willis> sudo apt-get remove nvidia-glx-new
[09:30] <Widget> just applying updates atm.. so will give it a go in couple minutes
[09:30] <Dr_Willis> sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[09:30] <Widget> k
[09:33] <etfb> Anyone here using Konversation?  One of the features I like on the IRC program I use on my Windows box at work is I can separate out system messages ("bhobama has left this server" and so on) from actual text written by human beings.  Can I do that in Konversation?
[09:34] <freaky_t> i think so
[09:34] <freaky_t> must be somewhere in the options
[09:35] <freaky_t> look in the konversation options under Behavior --> Chat Window
[09:35] <freaky_t> i guess
[09:35] <freaky_t> theres something called "Redirect status messages to the server status window" if it's that what u need
[09:36] <etfb> freaky_t: Could be.  But where is the server status window?  I still want to see the messages; I just don't want them intertwingled with conversations.
[09:38] <etfb> freaky_t: Nope.  Still getting "jmccain has joined this channel" messages...
[09:40] <freaky_t> etfb: hm, the server status window is the first window of a network
[09:41] <freaky_t> theres only an option "hide join/part/nick events"
[09:41] <freaky_t> which hides them but doesnt display them in the server window
[09:41] <freaky_t> no idea
[09:41] <freaky_t> u could try asking in #conversation
[09:41] <freaky_t> #konversation i mean
[09:47] <etfb> freaky_t: A plan of such surpassing cleverness and blinding obviousness, it's no wonder I didn't think of it.  Thanks!
[09:47] <tsune> hello
[09:47] <tsune> #kubuntu-es
[09:49] <overshoot> Hello. http://packages.ubuntu.com/ Does not say which version of which software is included in each release.
[09:49] <tsune> #ubuntu-es
[09:49] <overshoot> For example: http://packages.ubuntu.com/intrepid/kde/kde-core . What version of KDE is that?
[09:50] <overshoot> What version of KDE is/are included in 8.10?
[09:50] <tsune> hola
[09:50] <Widget> 4?
[09:50] <jussi01> !info kde-core intrepid
[09:50] <tsune> alguien habla español? :P
[09:50] <jussi01> !es
[09:51] <tsune> ok gracias!
[09:51] <jussi01> tsune: type /join #kubuntu-es
[09:51] <overshoot> jussi01: where do you type this?
[09:52] <jussi01> overshoot: what?
[09:52] <overshoot> Widget: only KDE4? not KDE3 and 4 like in Kubuntu 8.04?
[09:53] <overshoot> jussi01: you said: " !info kde-core intrepid" Was it in reply to my question? Where do you type this?
[09:53] <jussi01> overshoot: that triggers the bot - see what ubottu said ;)
[09:54] <jussi01> !info kdebase intrepid
[09:54] <overshoot> Oh. But it still doesn't say which version of KDE is there. There is no KDE 5.48...
[09:55] <overshoot> !info kdebase hardy
[09:56] <jussi01> overshoot: ^^
[09:56] <overshoot> !info kdebase4 hardy
[09:56] <jussi01> :)
[09:56] <overshoot> !info kde4 hardy
[09:57] <overshoot> !info kde4 intrepid
[09:57] <freaky_t> 11 days to go for intrepid :D
[09:57] <overshoot> So, all this means that KDE3.5 is gone from intrepid?
[09:58] <Dr_Willis> it looks gone to me.
[09:58] <Dr_Willis> Unles thers some backports repos that have it.
[09:59] <overshoot> Ok, thanks. I am happy to use KDE4, but how is the data migrated? In my home folder I have both ~/.kde and ~/.kde4. Which one will be used?
[09:59] <eagleagle> !ghost
[10:00] <eagleagle> overshoot: yes it is
[10:00] <eagleagle> i have both 3.5.10 and 4.1.2 my data is there as well
[10:01] <overshoot> eagles0513875: you are already using intrepid? Which of .kde or kde4 will intrepid use after upgrade?
[10:01] <eagles0513875> overshoot: no using hardy with 3.5.10 then installed 4.1.2
[10:02] <overshoot> Which of .kde or kde4 will intrepid use after upgrade? I can't find any relevant information on kubuntu.org.
[10:02] <eagles0513875> overshoot: i dunno
[10:02] <eagles0513875> the configuration from 3.10 after installation i had to re tweak 4.1.2
[10:02] <overshoot> ok. thanks. I guess I better back up before upgrading...
[10:03] <eagles0513875> never hurts
[10:03] <eagles0513875> better to be safe
[10:03] <overshoot> :)
[10:03] <eagles0513875> tar everything
[10:03] <eagles0513875> cept for /proc and /tmp
[10:03] <overshoot> I use dar.
[10:17] <vlad> i whant to instal that thing that makes ur desktop like a cube can anywhone help?
[10:17] <vlad> i whant to instal that thing that makes ur desktop like a cube can anywhone help?
[10:17] <eagles0513875> !compiz
[10:18] <eagles0513875> !patience | vlad
[10:18] <eagles0513875> vlad: is english ur ur first language
[10:18] <vlad> romanian
[10:19] <Widget> Dr_Willis: ok, ive removed glx-new and installed glx.. do i need to "activate" it or restart x server ?
[10:19] <vlad> eagles0513875:  romaniam
[10:19] <eagles0513875> !ro
[10:19] <eagles0513875> vlad: is that it
[10:20] <vlad> yeah but....
[10:20] <vlad> empty
[10:20] <vlad> :)
[10:21] <Dr_Willis> Widget,  just reboot and see.  for starters.
[10:21] <freaky_t> lala :p
[10:21] <Dr_Willis> Widget,  youmay want to install the irssi irc client. so you can get back here from the console if needed
[10:25] <vlad> Dr_Willis:  can u help ?
[10:26] <Dr_Willis> depends on the issue I guess...
[10:26] <vlad> i want to make my desck effects back to make them rotate and stuff like that
[10:26] <vlad> i just instaled my linux
[10:26] <vlad> i had it before
[10:27] <Dr_Willis> Install the 3d drivers. then isntal the compiz useless eye candy
[10:28] <vlad> no is not that
[10:28] <Dr_Willis> and the ccsm tool
[10:28] <vlad>  it was somf like compiz
[10:29] <Dr_Willis> !compiz
[10:29] <Dr_Willis> Youmust have 3d drivers working first. then install the compiz program
[10:29] <Dr_Willis> programs. :)
[10:29] <vlad> it is working
[10:29] <vlad>  :)
[10:29] <Dr_Willis> http://filebin.ca/evcaxh/magnifier.zip
[10:29] <Dr_Willis> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion
[10:29] <Dr_Willis> oops
[10:32] <manolo> hola
[10:33] <manish> am tryin to change my login screen for sometume now ... tried almost every thing but to no avail. can you suggest something
[10:33] <manolo> soy nuevo en este sistema alguien puede ayudarme
[10:34] <manish> have tried login manager but the settings do not take effect. has somebody faced same problem before
[10:35] <vlad> Dr_Willis:  how do i enable my 3 d_
[10:35] <Widget> Dr_Willis: sry, was afk.. reboot PC or x server ?
[10:36] <Dr_Willis> vlad,  err... install your 3d video card drivers..
[10:36] <Dr_Willis> Widget,  i would reboot.
[10:36] <Widget> ok
[10:36] <Widget> brb
[10:40] <vlad> ok ok Dr_Willis just seen it d nvidia
[10:40] <manish> please help: settings in login manager not talking effect
[10:40] <manish> dr_willis: can you help me out of this
[10:42] <Widget> Dr_Willis: didnt seem to work.. driver still the same.. I tried loading into nvid x server but its says "You do not appear to be using the NVIDIA X driver. Please edit your X configuration file (just run `nvidia-xconfig` as root), and restart the X server. "
[10:42] <Dr_Willis> what settings in login manager? You normally have to restart KDM/GDM for any changes you make to them to take affect.
[10:42] <manish> want to change the look of logiscreen
[10:43] <manish> you mean log off and log on
[10:43] <manish> ??
[10:43] <Dr_Willis> manish,  kdm has a theme tool for kde3, but as i said you MUST restart kdm  for the changes to take effect.
[10:43] <Dr_Willis> sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[10:43] <manish> its the usplash i am talkin about
[10:43] <manish> already done that
[10:43] <Dr_Willis> I dont do anything withusplash other then disble it.
[10:43] <Dr_Willis> !usplash
[10:44] <manish> i dont have a custom art . i just download it from kde website for it
[10:45] <manish> for usplash also you need to type sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[10:45] <manish> ??
[10:45] <manish> coz i am using emrald as my display manager
[10:46] <Dr_Willis> usplash is set up befor kdm even starts its a kernel feature - it has nothing to do with X/kdm/emerald
[10:46] <Dr_Willis> grub -> loads kernel-> usplash screen -> kdm login screen -> user logs in -> kde splash screen...
[10:47] <simon__> help! my tittle line dosnt show when i run anny program! i cant [x] it out!
[10:47] <simon__> help! my tittle line dosnt show when i run anny program! i cant [x] it out!
[10:47] <Dr_Willis> sounds like compiz crashed.. try  alt-f2, and run 'kwin --replace'
[10:48] <simon__> Tnx
[10:48] <manish> and for the second command you gave this is the reply "http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/59644/"
[10:49] <Dr_Willis> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/59644/
[10:49] <manish> and for the next thing you mentioned how do iedit the screen where i enter my username and password
[10:49] <manish> i think that is known as "login screen
[10:49] <Dr_Willis> thats KDM - you use kdm themes to change it.. thers several in the repos.
[10:49] <manish> right?
[10:49] <Dr_Willis> KDM = login screen
[10:50] <manish> but it does not happen
[10:50] <manish> i go as per the instructions but the theme does not get changed
[10:51] <Dr_Willis> as i said earlier - you MUST restart the KDM service for changes to take affect to its settings
[10:51] <Nasj> Yesterday my audio worked fine, but since this morning the audio is not working :\
[10:51] <manish> does this happen because i have kde 4 installed on my system
[10:51] <manish> but i dont use kdm as my screen manager still do i need to do that
[10:51] <Dr_Willis> No clue about kde4 - it uses its own themes/settings and stuff..  using kdm4  basicially means you are not using kdm3 , thus no setting changes to kdm3 will work :)
[10:52] <Dr_Willis> what are you using as your Login manager then?
[10:52] <Dr_Willis> the options are normally kdm3, kdm4, or gdm
[10:52] <Dr_Willis> Its very likely you are using kdm4
[10:52] <manish> i dont use it just wanteed to test it so installed it now i dont know how to remove all the apps it installed in the first place so its still occupying my system space
[10:53] <manish> emrald
[10:53] <Dr_Willis> fire up package manager and start removing
[10:53] <Dr_Willis> !puregnome
[10:53] <Dr_Willis> emerald has nothing todo with kdm
[10:53] <manish> no kubuntu system
[10:53] <manish> i want to remove kde4 only and not kde 3 as it is my default
[10:53] <Dr_Willis> fire up the package manager and remove the various kde4 stuff you dont want
[10:54] <manish> so it still requires kdm
[10:54] <manish> then
[10:54] <manish> individually
[10:54] <Dr_Willis> there is kdm3, and kdm4  for kde 3 and kde4
[10:54] <Dr_Willis> remove kdm4  package if you dont want to use kdm4
[10:55] <manish> but there is one more problemto that too . i checked the adept package manager but it doesnot show apps as kde3 or kde 4 but only app name
[10:55] <manish> so could not remove them individually
[10:56] <manish> and am not sure as to what components are needed by different packages
[10:56] <Dr_Willis> most of them have kde4 in the names i belive
[10:56] <manish> ya they do have
[10:56] <manish> but that is what is seen in the menus not in the package manager
[10:56] <manish> any ways i was on how do irestart kdm 3
[10:57]  * Dr_Willis pastes what he said earlier....
 manish,  kdm has a theme tool for kde3, but as i said you MUST restart kdm  for the changes to take effect.
 sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[10:58] <Dr_Willis> tobe sure you areusing kdm3 use 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm' and select kdm3
[10:59] <Nasj> Yesterday my audio worked fine, but since this morning the audio is not working :\
[11:00] <Angellows> Dr_Willis
[11:00] <Dr_Willis> Angellows,
[11:00] <eagles0513875> Dr_Willis: opera is borked
[11:00] <manish> see the output of youe command
[11:00] <manish> Stopping K Display Manager: kdm not running (/var/run/kdm.pid not found).
[11:00] <manish> Not starting K Display Manager (kdm); it is not the default display manager.
[11:01] <Dr_Willis> sounds like you are notusing kdm then
[11:01] <Dr_Willis> but kdm4 perhaps
[11:02] <Vlad> well i did all that 3 d .... but still have a problem ... afthet i instaled... doesen"t works what can i do ?
[11:02] <Vlad> Dr_Willis before i had it working and now....
[11:03] <manish> i did dpkg as you suggested nw will try and restart it
[11:03] <manish> something is happenign to the system
[11:03] <manish> everything is moving and flickering
[11:03] <manish> ok standthe system tray is gone
[11:04] <Vlad> Dr_Willis how can i do to make my pc when i close linux gives me some errors alsow ççççç
[11:04] <Vlad> like bus_connection failed.
[11:04] <manish> ok kdm restarted now what do i do
[11:05] <Dr_Willis> manish,  depends on what you are trying to do...
[11:05] <manish> will the settings in the login manager take effectnow
[11:05] <eagles0513875> how come opera isnt in repos any more
[11:06] <Dr_Willis> Vlad,  not sure what you mean.   You may want to try the 8.10 release - its due out soon and may have better driver support. That card should work with no problems.. but its possible some of the other things you did - messed up somthing else.
[11:06] <manish> ok will try to restart the system and check please can i contact you again if something goes wring
[11:06] <manish> wrong*
[11:07] <Vlad> dr willis it is giving me a error...
[11:07] <Vlad> can i ask u somf in prv?
[11:07] <geek> eagles0513875: cause its not open source?
[11:07] <Dr_Willis> eagles0513875,  i see it in the package listing here on this system
[11:07] <Dr_Willis> eagles0513875,  it may be in medibuntu
[11:07] <Dr_Willis> !info opera
[11:07] <eagles0513875> i got it from link in the website when u do !opera
[11:08] <eagles0513875> *you
[11:08] <eagles0513875> !opera
[11:08] <eagles0513875> deb http://deb.opera.com/opera/ stable non-free
[11:08] <Nasj> !audio
[11:08] <Dr_Willis> Get:1 http://archive.canonical.com hardy/partner opera 9.27-20080331.6hardy1 [5677kB]
[11:08] <eagles0513875> ?
[11:08] <geek> eagles0513875: hmm did you apt-get update ?
[11:08] <eagles0513875> geek:
[11:08] <eagles0513875> ya
[11:09]  * geek seems to recall installing it off a deb on their web site
[11:09] <Nasj> !MP3
[11:09] <eagles0513875> geek: no updates
[11:09] <eagles0513875> i used deb http://deb.opera.com/opera/ stable non-free
[11:09] <eagles0513875> that repo
[11:09] <Nasj> Yesterday my audio worked fine, but since this morning the audio is not working :\
[11:09] <Nasj> And i cant seem to find any problem
[11:09] <eagles0513875> geek:  im off llunch time
[11:10] <Dr_Willis> that repo is for debian..it may not work right for ubuntu
[11:10] <Nasj> A friend of mine suggested that it ha dsomething to do with pulseaudio because of this error: AO: [pulse] Failed to connect to server: Connection refused
[11:10] <geek> eagles0513875: http://www.opera.com/download/index.dml?platform=linux
[11:11] <Widget> ok..ive enabled the use of Hardware Drivers and it says Propietry drivers are being used.. yet now, the drivers are only allowing me to display 640x480 res @ 50hz .. is this right? or should i now config my monitor ?
[11:12] <Widget> nvid x serv says i got driver v.169..
[11:13] <Dr_Willis> Widget,  i would backup your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file, then tweak the settings with the nvidia-settings tool  'kdeusudo nvidia-settings'
[11:13] <Widget> wat command do i use to backup ?
[11:13] <Widget> sudo nvidia-xconfig ?
[11:14] <Dr_Willis> sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.my_backup
[11:14] <Dr_Willis> nvidia-xconfig  is the NON-X based config tool..
[11:14] <Dr_Willis> nvidia-settings is the X based config tool..
[11:14] <Dr_Willis> No X = its for X,     :) figure that out
[11:15] <Nasj> Thats so logical Dr_Willis :)
[11:16] <Widget> ok, so i typed sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.my_backup into terminal.. though it didnt say anything.. just went to new line...
[11:16] <Dr_Willis> i normally use 'sudo nvidia-xconfig -a' to enable the multimonitor/twinview stuff
[11:16] <Dr_Willis> Widget,  linux basics... thats how it works
[11:17] <Dr_Willis> no reply = no error...
[11:17] <eagles0513875> geek: ty but i downloaded from the repon the deb http://deb.opera.com/opera/ stable non-free
[11:17] <Widget> oh ok.. so now i go to Nvidia x server settings ?
[11:17] <geek> kk
[11:17] <geek> if it works, good enough
[11:19] <Dr_Willis> Widget,  kdesudo nvidia-settings
[11:20] <Nasj> Yesterday my audio worked fine, but since this morning the audio is not working :\
[11:20] <Nasj> And i cant seem to find any problem
[11:20] <Nasj> A friend of mine suggested that it ha dsomething to do with pulseaudio because of this error: AO: [pulse] Failed to connect to server: Connection refused
[11:20] <Dr_Willis> in all apps or just a few?
[11:20] <Dr_Willis> kde dosent use pulse audio by default.
[11:20] <Widget> Dr_Willis: that's where i am now but cant seem to increase resolution
[11:20] <Nasj> all apps
[11:20] <Nasj> no soundat all
[11:22] <Dr_Willis> Widget,  not sure then. could be it dosent think your monitor can handle the higher res. You may need to put a modes linein the xorg.conf,  are you using a LCD montior? with DVI conector? Not using a KVM switch are you?
[11:22] <Widget> Dr_Willis: no, CRT with VGA and yup.. using KVM switch
[11:23] <reaper> 'k
[11:23] <Widget> Dr_Willis: should i just connect Monitor straight to PC
[11:24] <Dr_Willis> Widget,  thats proberly the whole issue then.. someine in here earlier had similer issue..
[11:24] <Dr_Willis> http://www.experts-exchange.com/OS/Linux/Administration/Q_22691344.html
[11:24] <Dr_Willis> he had to put a modes line entry in his xorg.conf file
[11:24] <Dr_Willis> i would power down, unhook kvm. power up and then try to get it goind
[11:24] <Widget> oh ok.. what if i connect mon > pc.. if it works, then connect back to kvm? would it resort back to issues ?
[11:25] <Dr_Willis> No idea - i dontuse kvm's
[11:25] <Dr_Willis> many of them are so cheap they dont work properly when X tries to get the proper monitor info.
[11:26] <Widget> ah ok.. might try mon > pc.. brb
[11:26] <Dr_Willis> in theory - if you  restarted X/KDm it should rescan and reconfigure X for the monitor.
[11:26] <Dr_Willis> but the kvm switch may not be giving the right info to X.
[11:32] <Widget> spent all day trying to figure it out and turns out to be a lil box under my desk :S
[11:33] <Widget> thnx heaps Dr_Willis :)
[11:33] <Dr_Willis> One reason to not use kvm switches
[11:33] <Dr_Willis> or at least not the cheap ones
[11:33] <Widget> lol ya.. it was a freebie and freed up space on desk.. but ya.. tis pretty old one
[11:34] <Dr_Willis> if you manually configured your xorg.conf - in theory you could use that kvm switch. in fact compare the xorg.conf you got NOW with the oneyou bcked up earlier.. see how they differ.
[11:35] <Dr_Willis> someone else was in here today with a idnetical issue.. with kvm. he put in that modes line.. and his started working
[11:36] <Widget> cool.. though how do i compare the 2 ? or can i just save the current settings, then reload them with kvm ?
[11:36] <Dr_Willis> diff file1 file2
[11:37] <Dr_Willis> cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf   xorg.conf.worked.withoutkvm
[11:37] <Vlad> Dr_Willis puppylinux instales .... his own drivers alsow?
[11:37] <Dr_Willis> :)
[11:37] <Dr_Willis> i dont find puppylinux slow.
[11:37] <Vlad> you like puppylinux?
[11:37] <Dr_Willis> or did i missread the question.
[11:37] <Dr_Willis> It works.. i use it to make custome mini-live cds
[11:38] <Vlad> :D
[11:38] <Vlad> so it is ok
[11:38] <Vlad> for msn messenger and ... i don"t know
[11:38] <Vlad> but it is not like unbuntu
[11:38] <Vlad> ?
[11:38] <Dr_Willis> Its not ubuntu.. thats right.
[11:39] <Dr_Willis> its about as far fromubuntu as disrtos get
[11:39] <Vlad> :)) i c well does it gett"s his own drivers alsow like unbuntu or i have to look for them ?
[11:40] <Dr_Willis> linux drivers are for the most part built into the kernel..
[11:40] <Dr_Willis> evvery disrto using the same kernel verison, are using the same drivers
[11:40] <Vlad> that means i don"t need no drivers
[11:40] <Vlad> :))
[11:40] <Dr_Willis> the exceptions are the video/ati/nvidia propitary drivers, and propiarty wireless drivers
[11:40] <Widget> Dr_Willis: trying to save the current config.. /etc/X11/xorgnokvm.conf will work or is that wrong ?
[11:41] <Vlad> aha i c
[11:41] <Dr_Willis> Widget,  you need to use sudo to write to that directory
[11:41] <Dr_Willis> Widget,  save it wever you want..  compare the 2 - see if they are different. they may not be
[11:42] <Widget> sudo /etc/X11/xorgnokvm.conf ?
[11:42] <martinjh99> Which package do I need to install to get mount.cifs ?
[11:43] <Vlad> Dr_Willis it is really 98 Mb? puppy?
[11:45] <Widget> whats the command again to save in terminal ?
[11:45] <Widget> sudo /etc/X11/xorg.config.nokvm ?
[11:46] <Widget> sudo /etc/X11/xorg.conf.nokvm sry
[11:47] <Dr_Willis> Vlad,  it can be smaller
[11:47] <Dr_Willis> Widget,  time to learn some basics.. 'cp' copies files
[11:47] <Dr_Willis> sudo does things as root
[11:47] <Dr_Willis> And of course you must give a SOURCE and a Destination
[11:47] <Dr_Willis> sudo cp fromthis tothat
[11:49] <Widget> oh ok.. so "sudo cf etc/X11/xorg.conf xorg.conf.nokvm" ?
[11:49] <Widget> cp*
[11:49] <Widget> cp /etc/X11 ... *
[11:51] <Vlad> dr eillis
[11:51] <Widget> sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf xorg.conf.nokvm .. didnt seem to get any errors
[11:51] <Vlad> willis wich one is the smalles?
[11:51] <Vlad> Dr_Willis
[11:53] <Dr_Willis> look at the puppy linux web site.. theres some that are under 20mb i think .. but it depends on what you want.
[11:53] <Dr_Willis> Widget,  that copied the file to the current drectory. :) ie: wherver you were at at the time
[11:53] <Dr_Willis> which may or may not be what you want.. but it dosent matter much
[11:54] <Dr_Willis> Well i must give this big Bonus to 8.10 - The wireless networking on my laptop... WORKS... i dident have to anything other then enable its drivers in the driver-manager tool...
[11:54] <Dr_Willis> wow.
[11:55] <ghettoblaster32> had some probs but gor wireless working too
[11:55] <ghettoblaster32> got
[11:55] <Dr_Willis> i got friends that are afraid to upgrade because they had such a hard time getting wireless going...
[11:56] <Dr_Willis> so they want to keep what they got. :)
[11:56] <Dr_Willis> Of course it was 'hard' because they couldent understand the rather straight forward guides
[11:56] <bentob0x> there was a qgit update, where can I find the info on what was fixed?
[11:57] <ghettoblaster32> i'm not very happy with KDE 4.1, cause most people find 3.5 easier for beginners
[11:57] <Dr_Willis> I dont care for kde4 either
[11:58] <Elmnas> hi guys
[11:58] <Elmnas> cna someone help with my wireless network card please
[11:59] <ghettoblaster32> I got a game that uses directly sounddevice, anybody an idea howto get it working via kmix
[11:59] <ghettoblaster32> whats your problem Elmnas
[11:59] <Elmnas> well
[12:02] <Nasj> still no idea how to fix this audio problem :\
[12:02] <fan> hello
[12:03] <fan> 好阿
[12:03] <fan> 你们都是那个国家的？
[12:03] <geek> !cn
[12:03] <Nasj> Yesterday my audio worked fine, but since this morning the audio is not working :\
[12:03] <Nasj> And i cant seem to find any problem
[12:03] <Nasj> A friend of mine suggested that it ha dsomething to do with pulseaudio because of this error: AO: [pulse] Failed to connect to serv
[12:13] <senfman> hi
[12:13] <senfman> KOrganizer seems to crash often, since the update this week. do you guys have the same problem?
[12:15] <Widget> ok.. i connected the kvm, and it went back to the low resolution.. did I save the current conf file just b4 ? or didnt it save cause it was same dir ?
[12:18] <tdi_k> I've got an usb stick with FAT32 (made with fdisk and mkfs.vfat ubuntu 8.10). Hal says 'volume.fstype = 'vfat', but when i try to open it, in dmesg i get message saying it neither iso nor udf
[12:18] <JuLiEn__78> Hello :)
[12:19] <Widget> how can i load /etc/X11/xorg.conf from another setting
[12:20] <Widget> i thought i saved /etc/X11/xorg.conf.nokvm witht he higher resoultion
[12:20] <Nasj> :o
[12:22] <Dr_Willis> xorg.conf defines the res's your system can dsplay.. well it CAN define them...
[12:22] <Dr_Willis> X tries to be auto-configuring these days.. so theres often not a lot in the xorg.conf
[12:22] <wizkoder> hy everybody
[12:23] <Widget> how do i edit xorg.conf ?
[12:23] <Dr_Willis> Widget,  compare those 2  files see if there is any differeance in them.
[12:23] <Dr_Willis> its a text file.. you edit it as root, with any text editor you like
[12:23] <wizkoder> I am using 3.5.5 and when I press alt+F2 the programstarter opens. But it is behind all other windows. Can this be changed?
[12:26] <Widget> i can open the xorg.conf.nokvm . but cant find where the xorg.conf is stored
[12:26] <Dr_Willis>  /etc/X11/
[12:27] <Dr_Willis> /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:27] <Dr_Willis> as you said earlier. :)
[12:31] <Widget> oh.. lol, thnx :)... is there a quicker way to compar the 2 rather then reading through both ?
[12:32] <Widget> bugger.. read through both.. seems they both the same =\
[12:32] <Guest27508> hello
[12:33] <tdi_k> Widget: kompare file1 file2
[12:33] <Dr_Willis> or diff file1 file2
[12:33] <tdi_k> Widget: or diff -Naur file1 file2
[12:33] <Dr_Willis> like i said earlier.
[12:33] <tdi_k> :-0
[12:33] <Dr_Willis> :)
[12:34] <tdi_k> or so
[12:34] <Dr_Willis> !info colordiff
[12:34] <Dr_Willis> i mentioned diff earlier. :P
[12:34] <tdi_k> is there any fix for the size of konsole ?
[12:34] <Nasj> !ask
[12:35] <Dr_Willis> tdi_k,  never noticed a problem with it.
[12:36] <tdi_k> Since probably a week it always opens with a weird size and position... I've once seen a question here or in #kubuntu-kde4, but never seen the answer ...
[12:36] <Dr_Willis> Im not using kde4 so cant really verify
[12:36] <Widget> where do i type that? just in terminal ?
[12:37] <Dr_Willis> type what? diff? yes.. its a terminal program
[12:37] <tdi_k> Widget: if you mean diff - yes. kompare is a graphical utility from the pakage kompare or kdesdk (not quite sure)
[12:39] <Widget> i typed "diff /etc/x11/xorg.conf /etc/x11/xorg.conf.nokvm" but says cant find file
[12:41] <tdi_k> Widget: /etc/X11 ... (big X)
[12:41] <Widget> oh ok
[12:42] <Dr_Willis> this is whenyou learn about the TAB key. :)
[12:42] <Dr_Willis>  cp /somth<TAB> completes the name
[12:42] <Nasj> A reboot didnt tdo the trick either :\
[12:42] <Dr_Willis> !tab
[12:43] <Nasj> !audio
[12:44] <Widget> ok, diff didnt say aything.. jsut made a new line.. but kompare says they both identical
[12:45] <Dr_Willis> thats basicially what diff said :)
[12:45] <Dr_Willis> diff didnt say aything.  --> it would print out differances.. :)
[12:46] <TheFather> hy all
[12:47] <kcg> hello there, i have a question about installing Kubuntu. when I am trying the live version or if I am trying to install kubuntu, I get this "ata4.00: revalidation failed (errno=-5)". Now, if I unplug all sata drives and have 1 usb drive, it boots into the live version, any ideas?
[12:48] <kcg> my cd drive is also SATA, and I was wondering if this has to do with it?
[12:48] <Nasj> The sound trouble shooting page refers to : http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Matrix:Main to find the drivers for my soundcard ive found my soundcard in the list but i dont see what drivers
[12:51] <Nasj> Iḿ really stuck here :\
[12:52] <Dr_Willis> Nasj,  this close to the next release.. id be tempted to tell you to test out the  live cd's for intrepid and seeif that works with your sound.
[12:52] <Dr_Willis> its very likely it has newer drivers ..
[12:53] <Nasj> but it worked yesterday
[12:53] <Dr_Willis> Nasj,  :) what did ya do to it then!
[12:53] <Nasj> nothing :S
[12:53] <Nasj> just shut down and start up
[12:53] <Dr_Willis> :)
[12:53] <Dr_Willis> might of been some update.. if you have any older kernels listed in the grub meny. try an older one
[12:54] <Nasj> ok
[12:54] <Nasj> i have .19 in the list
[12:54] <Dr_Willis> also try the alsamixer. and see if its sliders/mute button dont help.
[12:54] <Dr_Willis> ive seen 3 peopel this week that some how their systems got muted..
[12:56] <Widget> oh ok.. so would i be able to go back and connect monitor > pc, then save the xorg.conf of that setup, reuse kvm and load the latest .conf file ?
[12:56] <Nasj> I'm in .19 now
[12:56] <Nasj> still no sound
[12:57] <Dr_Willis> Widget,  the diff comman sort of showed that  the xorg.conf dident change.
[12:57] <Nasj> alsamixer was not muted
[12:57] <Dr_Willis> Widget,  you may want to manually edit the xorg.conf and put in a modes line.
[12:57] <Widget> ah k.. do u know how to do that or have a link to show ?
[12:58] <Widget> i'll have to get the info on the monitor from the LG website yeh?
[12:58] <Dr_Willis> not really . the modes line just shows what res's the thing can display.. let me find that url..
[12:59] <Dr_Willis> not a great example  but  ok.. ---> http://www.experts-exchange.com/OS/Linux/Administration/Q_22691344.html
[13:00] <Nasj> Dr_Willis: Still no sound, alsamixer was fine but what about that pulse audio error ?
[13:00] <Dr_Willis>  pastebinit  /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[13:00] <Dr_Willis> http://pastebin.com/f658ae21a
[13:01] <Dr_Willis> using that pastebin url as an example.. in  the 'screens' section  below 'DefaultDepth '24''
[13:01] <Dr_Willis> you would paste in a line like...
[13:01] <Dr_Willis>  Modes            "1600x1200"      "1280x1024"      "1024x768"      "800x600"      "720x400"      "640x480"
[13:01] <Dr_Willis> using whatever #$'s you want.
[13:01] <Dr_Willis> this MAY or MAY not work. :)
[13:01] <Nasj> hmm
[13:01] <Nasj> pulseaudio is not even installed
[13:01] <Dr_Willis> Nasj,  kiubumntu dosent use pulse..
[13:01] <Dr_Willis> ubuntud oes
[13:02] <Dr_Willis> does..
[13:02] <Nasj> ok
[13:02] <Nasj> that explains that
[13:02] <Dr_Willis> some gnome apps will default to pulse.. then timeout if done right.. and go to alsa
[13:02] <Widget> cool, thnx Dr_Willis :)
[13:02] <Nasj> ok
[13:02] <Nasj> But what could then be the problem, i mean it worked fine yesterday
[13:03] <Dr_Willis> No idea.
[13:03] <Dr_Willis> try playingsomthing simple from a terminal and look for error messages I guess
[13:03] <Widget> how many spaces between each resolution do i put ?
[13:03] <Nasj> that pulse thing was only error
[13:03] <Dr_Willis> Widget,  spaces dont matter. 1 is enough
[13:04] <Nasj> maybe it has the wrong output device slected ?
[13:04] <Nasj> Where can i see wich device its using ?
[13:04] <Widget> ok, thnx :)
[13:04] <Dr_Willis> i though that !alsa factoid mentioned that Nasj
[13:04] <Dr_Willis> but it may be gnome-speficic tools.
[13:04] <Dr_Willis> You could install gnome and pulse audio
[13:05] <Nasj> it has my audio card slected alright :\
[13:05] <Dr_Willis> well night all...
[13:05] <Dr_Willis> take care
[13:05] <Nasj> night Dr_Willis
[13:06] <Edulix> hi
[13:06] <Edulix>  is it normal that dbus-daemon --system uses (by RES column in htop) 98mb of ram, being that even more than amarok ? :-/
[13:06] <Widget> does anyone know how to activate Cube in Compiz ?
[13:07] <Widget> it says <Control><Alt>Down
[13:07] <Widget> but that doesnt work
[13:07] <[|Liam|]> Is it possible to get MSN on Kubuntu?
[13:07] <Widget> well.. it says that to "unfold" anyways
[13:07] <Widget> get amsn
[13:07] <GillesMM> liam yes with amsn
[13:07] <[|Liam|]> Can I get it with sudo?
[13:07] <Widget> should b able to
[13:07] <Widget> sudo apt-get install amsn ?
[13:08] <[|Liam|]> Yeah that worked thanks
[13:08] <Nasj> Anyone got a clue why my audio is dead wilst it worked perfectly yesterday ? :(
[13:08] <[|Liam|]> That happens to me alot when I open firefox before i open Amarok :$
[13:08] <Nasj> ? :o
[13:09] <Nasj> amorok opens on start up here
[13:09] <[|Liam|]> Same but i usually close it >.<
[13:09] <Nasj> What do you do to fix it ?
[13:09] <Nasj> your audio
[13:09] <[|Liam|]> Anyway, thanks for the MSN help Widget+GillesMM.
[13:13] <Widget> does anyone know how to initiate the Cube through compiz ? ive got it enabled but cant seem to start it
[13:25] <Elmnas> can someone help me?
[13:25] <Elmnas> with network wireless card
[13:25] <emilsedgh> !ask | Elmnas
[13:26] <Elmnas> Hi can someone help me to set up my wireless card right when I am writing iwconfig wlan0 I get some invalid stuff
[13:42] <NewTOkubuntu> Hi i broke my swap file. What can i do?
[13:42] <jtisme> Elmnas, sorry no one has offered to help you. I would help you but I am on the way out to church and will be signing off now.  jt
[13:43] <Elmnas> Hi guys can someone please help to fix some errors in iwconfig please
[14:20] <giujtrloy> ciao
[14:21] <giujtrloy> desiderei sapere se gia esiste ubuntu per smartphon
[14:22] <giujtrloy> per htc-s620
[14:34] <SIRavecavec> I cant upgrade to 8.10 because i receive and error who tells me that the installer could not be verified and cannot run.
[14:34] <Tm_T> !ibex | SIRavecavec
[14:34] <balckflag> someone using Fedora Directory server on ubuntu 8.04?
[14:35] <balckflag> I have trouble to install it
[14:35] <balckflag> can someone help?
[14:36] <SIRavecavec> Tm_T: what should i do? My version is not upgraded. I receive error try to upgarde it.
[14:36] <Tm_T> SIRavecavec: even upgrading is to +1 but...
[14:37] <SIRavecavec> Tm_T:  i am there.
[14:37] <Tm_T> if you don't know how to handle errors, are you sure you should use unstable version, I wonder
[14:41] <Nasj> Yesterday I installed kubuntu and ervything worked great, I did someupdate and the went to sleep. Today when i started it up again I had no audio at all now ive been all day trying to work it out but im clueless. Anyone who can help me with this one ?
[14:41] <Tm_T> !sound
[14:41] <Nasj> did that 1000 times
[14:41] <Nasj> nothing..
[14:42] <Nasj> it plays it in amarok
[14:42] <Nasj> even speaker test wont give anything
[14:44] <Nasj> yesterday i could play everything
[14:45] <SIRavecavec> ...
[14:47] <lokpest> all of my multimedia buttons on the front on my dell inspiron 6400 works exept the stopbutton
[14:47] <lokpest> where do I configure this?
[14:48] <DarthFrog> Nasj: Have you played with the mixer?  Checked that it isn't muted?
[14:50] <lokpest> whats the EOF-date for Kubuntu Hardy?
[14:52] <DarthFrog> Kubuntu Hardy isn't LTS so 18 months.
[14:53] <DarthFrog> i.e. next October.
[14:53] <Tm_T> DarthFrog: base is lts
[14:54] <DarthFrog> Tm_T: Yes, base is LTS, you're correct.  But Kubuntu isn't.
[14:54] <Tm_T> DarthFrog: mmm, needs definitions but lets say ok
[14:57] <DarthFrog> Tm_T: Personally, I don't see how it really mattters.  The Kubuntu portion is the KDE desktop.  I don't suppose that it really matters that KDE 3.5 goes unsupported,as a fully mature product.  If the base system is supported LTS, that'd certainly be good enough for me.
[14:57] <ansem> do anybody speak italian?
[14:57] <DarthFrog> Though I upgrade to the latest beta when it comes out. :-)
[14:58] <DarthFrog> !it|ansem
[15:00] <lokpest> DarthFrog: october is a month, not a date
[15:01] <DarthFrog> !hardy
[15:04] <Roey> hi
[15:04] <Roey> I start kvm -smb /path/to/my/dir but on the Windows side I just see "network path not found"; what's going wrong here?
[15:07] <jasomja> hi i have problem with Compiling http://lcd-mod.sourceforge.net/ , is working for somebpody under kubuntu  ?
[15:12] <DarthFrog> jasomja: Answers are $1.  Correct answers are $10.  Dumb looks are still free.  You get a dumb look. :-)
[15:16] <aleboco> hi guys, does anyone know why i don't receive any notification mail after a completed task with kcron?
[15:16] <jasomja> DarthFrog: u must be milionaire , am i right ?
[15:16] <DarthFrog> I wish. :-)
[15:17] <DarthFrog> I give away too many dumb looks. :-)
[15:17] <DarthFrog> aleboco: Is the task configured to report by mail?
[15:18] <Roey> anyone here use QEMU/KVM?
[15:18] <jasomja> DarthFrog: i am just asking if  somebody get it working on kubuntu, becouse i try it long time, have corected some compiling problems but still another is coming , and googling for compiled under ubuntu is problem
[15:19] <linux_> ki aurai adresse server backtrack svp
[15:20] <DarthFrog> jasomja: Oh, ask away.  And if anyone here can help you, they will.  But silence generally means no-one here now has the knowledge you seek.
[15:22] <aleboco> DarthFrog, i don't know. I have a task and a variable
[15:22] <aleboco> DarthFrog, the variable is MAILTO. and is set on my e-mail
[15:23] <DarthFrog> aleboco: Sorry, I don't use kcron.  Don't know if your config is correct.
[15:24] <DarthFrog> I do know that cron itself has to be specifically set to send mail.
[15:32] <Nasj> DarthFrog: nothing is muted
[15:32] <Nasj> sorry for the late answer btw
[15:32] <DarthFrog> Nasj: Hmm, too bad.  It's nice when things are simple.  :-)
[15:32] <Nasj> yeah
[15:33] <Nasj> Ive been trying to get this to work from 08:00
[15:33] <Nasj> its 16:33 now :\
[15:33] <DarthFrog> Wow.  It's only 0733 now. :-)
[15:33] <Nasj> :p
[15:33] <DarthFrog> I guess we're in different parts of the world. :-)
[15:33] <Nasj> me geuss eactly
[15:34] <Nasj> but still no solution :\
[15:34] <Nasj> im getting really mad at my computer now
[15:34] <Nasj> Im geussing it has something to do with updates or something :\
[15:35] <DarthFrog> OK, the usual suspects: Is it turned on?  Are your speakers plugged in? :-)
[15:35] <Nasj> ofc :p
[15:35] <Nasj> nothing is muted
[15:35] <DarthFrog> Did you check?  It's too easy to say yes.
[15:35] <Nasj> ofcourse i checked
[15:35] <Dragnslcr> No sound after a kernel update?
[15:36] <eagles0513875> how do i turn off or disable ipv6
[15:36] <Nasj> no sound after Adept updates
[15:36] <Nasj> and after reboot
[15:36] <Nasj> yesterday it worked fine
[15:36] <Nasj> i updated
[15:36] <Nasj> and turned my computer off
[15:36] <Nasj> this morning
[15:36] <Nasj> I turned it on and no sound at all
[15:36] <Nasj> but the files do play
[15:36] <eagles0513875> !ipv6
[15:37] <Dragnslcr> Last time that happened to me, it was because the module package I had didn't match the kernel version. I had the -generic modules, but it was booting the -i386 kernel
[15:37] <Dragnslcr> Might be worth checking
[15:37] <Nasj> How do i check that ?
[15:38] <Nasj> bit new to linux only installed it yesterday :p
[15:38] <Dragnslcr> uname -a will tell you what kernel version you're using
[15:39] <Nasj> 2.6.24-21-generic
[15:39] <Nasj> If i boot in -19 i still dotn have sound
[15:41] <Dragnslcr> In Adept, check that linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.24-21-generic is installed
[15:41] <Dragnslcr> And not -386
[15:42] <Nasj> is installed
[15:43] <Dragnslcr> I'd guess that's not the problem then
[15:43] <Nasj> hmhm
[15:43] <Nasj> any idea what could be ?
[15:43] <Nasj> !uninstall
[15:44] <Nasj> else i could reinstall kubuntu ?
[15:44] <Nasj> but i dont think that would solve anything
[15:44] <Nasj> i just dont get it
[15:44] <DarthFrog> Nasj: Do you see an audio device configured in the various subsections of Audio Output in System Settings?
[15:44] <Nasj> yesterday it worked perfectly fine
[15:45] <Nasj> ill look
[15:45] <Dragnslcr> That's the only thing I can think of, other than checking settings in kmix and/or alsamixer
[15:45] <Nasj> also checked those setting Dragnslcr
[15:45] <Nasj> already
[15:46] <Nasj> vaious subsections DarthFrog ?
[15:47] <Nasj> i only see
[15:47] <Nasj> 2
[15:47] <DarthFrog> Notifications, Music, Video, etc.
[15:47] <Nasj> i dont see those
[15:47] <Nasj> maybe im looking in the wrong place
[15:48] <DarthFrog> Not necessarily.  I'm running Intrepid Beta, they may be new there.
[15:48] <DarthFrog> But do you see an audio output device?
[15:48] <Nasj> the output device is good
[15:48] <DarthFrog> What is it?
[15:48] <Nasj> my audio card
[15:49] <DarthFrog> More specific.  Exactly what does it say?
[15:49] <Nasj> in sytem settings it doesnt say anything
[15:49] <Nasj> but in alsamixer it says it uses my audio card
[15:50] <Nasj> in systemsettings it uses auto detect
[15:50] <DarthFrog> Check KMix and see if it looks OK.
[15:51] <DarthFrog> Click on the Volume icon in the System Tray and then click on Mixer.
[15:51] <Nasj> its ok
[15:51] <DarthFrog> Check the levels and muting there.
[15:51] <Nasj> WOW
[15:51] <Nasj> wait
[15:51] <Nasj> i finally have sound
[15:51] <DarthFrog> :-)
[15:51] <Nasj> but reallllllyyyyyyyyyyy low
[15:52] <DarthFrog> OK, then it's your mixer settings.
[15:52] <Nasj> but its really low
[15:52] <Nasj> my volume control on my speakers are full out
[15:52] <DarthFrog> OK, I'm leaving now.  Have fun.
[15:53] <Nasj> usually they should hear me in the next village
[16:03] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[16:09] <eagles0513875> ActionParsnip: yo yo yoyo
[16:10] <ActionParsnip> holla
[16:11] <eagles0513875> ActionParsnip: what do i have to do to change how many mounts before a  check is run on the disk
[16:11] <ActionParsnip> oooh, erm lemme check
[16:13] <ActionParsnip> eagles0513875: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-show-the-number-of-reboots-before-next-forced-fsck-using-showfsck.html
[16:13] <ActionParsnip> eagles0513875: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-300477.html
[16:14] <eagles0513875> ActionParsnip: :) ty
[16:14] <ActionParsnip> np duder
[16:14] <BluesKaj> hiyas
[16:14] <eagles0513875> hey BluesKaj
[16:15] <eagles0513875> how u both are doing better then i am
[16:15] <eagles0513875> ActionParsnip: u in ot
[16:15] <BluesKaj> hey eagles0513875
[16:15] <ActionParsnip> eagles0513875: no man
[16:15] <kr0n05931> how do I configure dead keys?
[16:15] <ActionParsnip> BluesKaj: hey man
[16:15] <ActionParsnip> kr0n05931: dead keys?
[16:16] <BluesKaj> hi ActionParsnip
[16:16] <Guest85531> how do i configure my mic in kubuntu ? i have a hp 6700t laptop and i would like to configure the mics in the front , can anyone help?
[16:16] <kr0n05931> ~n, 'e, etc
[16:16] <ActionParsnip> Guest85531: make sure its not muted
[16:16] <Guest85531> i hear something but the input signal is very faint
[16:17] <Guest85531> which sound system should be used ?  is it ALSA or OSS?
[16:17] <Tm_T> OSS is nogo unless you really have to
[16:17] <buko> id say OSS
[16:17] <ActionParsnip> Guest85531: have you cranked mic gain?
[16:18] <Tm_T> buko: why so?
[16:18] <ubsafder> can i install with no dependency checks ?
[16:18] <ActionParsnip> Guest85531: the one that works
[16:18] <ubsafder> i am trying to get gnucash
[16:18] <ActionParsnip> ubsafder: --force-deps
[16:18] <ActionParsnip> ubsafder: surely sudo apt-get install gnucash is the way?
[16:22] <ubsafder> apt-get install gnucash says it is not available i installed gnucash-common but i could not find what file it installed an how to lunch
[16:24] <eagles0513875> ubsafder: u on hardy or intrepid
[16:24] <eagles0513875> cuz its working for me
[16:24] <Nasj> what does IMHO / IMO stand for anyways
[16:24] <eagles0513875> sudo apt-get install gnucash
[16:24] <ubsafder> hardy
[16:24] <ActionParsnip> ubsafder: type gnucash in terminal, try tab completing
[16:24] <eagles0513875> Nasj:  in my honest opinion and in my opinion
[16:24] <Nasj> ok
[16:24] <Nasj> thanks
[16:26] <ubsafder> i am not very sure of my current version of ubuntu I have been upgrading since . dapper drake
[16:26] <ubsafder> gnuca tab gives nothing
[16:27] <girao> alguem fala portugues
[16:27] <Tm_T> !br | girao
[16:29] <BluesKaj> ubsafder:in the terminal , lsb_release -a
[16:29] <admiral0> hi
[16:30] <eagles0513875> !hi | admiral0
[16:30] <BluesKaj> !hi | admiral0
[16:30]  * Nasj GONE
[16:30] <admiral0> i would like to install the RC of intrepid
[16:30] <Tm_T> Nasj: please don't
[16:31] <admiral0> but i want bleeding edge kde4
[16:31] <ubsafder> ok i am on hardy then
[16:31] <Tm_T> admiral0: then install from neon
[16:31] <admiral0> no... better: compile
[16:31] <ActionParsnip> admiral0: theres a kde4 intrepid
[16:31] <admiral0> my hardy system had kde4 compiles
[16:31] <Tm_T> ActionParsnip: it's not "bleeding edge" =)
[16:32] <Tm_T> admiral0: so what's the problem then?
[16:32] <admiral0> the question is
[16:32] <admiral0> if i make install it over the actual kde4 in intrepid?
[16:32] <Tm_T> no need to, but you can
[16:32] <ubuntu__> hello
[16:33] <admiral0> will it complain too much?
[16:33] <ActionParsnip> hi ubuntu__
[16:33] <Tm_T> well it could make some trouble, but if you're going to compile kde4 by yourself, you should be ready to fix those issues, I'd say (;)
[16:33] <Roey> hi
[16:33] <Roey> anyone here use KVM/QEMU?
[16:34] <Tm_T> Roey: making poll?
[16:34] <admiral0> ok
[16:34] <Roey> Tm_T:  I can't get -usbdevice working
[16:34] <Roey> or -smb
[16:34] <Tm_T> admiral0: but shouldn't make much, depends on how you make it
[16:34] <Roey> guest system slwos to a crawl.
[16:34] <Tm_T> Roey: then ask so (;)
[16:34] <admiral0> i just use kdesvn-build... it makes me worry less about launching cmake & kompany
[16:35] <Roey> Tm_T:  SO I try starting KVM with -usb -usbdevice host:NNN.NNN but it keeps saying it cannot add it
[16:35] <Tm_T> Roey: sorry I know nothing about that stuff, just wanted to get out the real question from you
[16:35] <Roey> ok
[16:35] <admiral0> what's the prefix for kde4(intrepid)? /usr or /opt/kde4?
[16:35] <Tm_T> admiral0: usr
[16:36] <admiral0> WOW. So the devs finally decided to leave behind kde3?
[16:36] <Roey> heh :)
[16:36] <Roey> admiral0:  heh!!
[16:36] <Tm_T> admiral0: not much to decide
[16:36] <ActionParsnip> kde3 is sound
[16:36] <ActionParsnip> kwin is horrific
[16:37] <Tm_T> is not, but that's offtopic
[16:37] <admiral0> ActionParsnip:??
[16:37] <admiral0> explain
[16:37] <ActionParsnip> fluxbox dude :D
[16:37] <admiral0> ah..
[16:38] <admiral0> i understand.. you are one of those "minimal" guys
[16:38] <admiral0> fluxbox is not bad, but kwin makes me feel like home...
[16:39] <ActionParsnip> no i just want my system to do stuff "now" so I save ram with a slick WM. I have 2Gb ram but im not bothered for gloss like most girls
[16:39] <ActionParsnip> http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj93/andrew_woodhead666/MyScreenshot.png?t=1224430756
[16:40] <admiral0> ActionParsnip:i have, no i had a desktop almost entirely compiled
[16:40] <admiral0> i decided to use 8.10
[16:41] <admiral0> and to start again from 0
[16:41] <admiral0> i cannot decrapify my home folder anymore
[16:41] <admiral0> it was huge
[16:41] <admiral0> so i formatted
[16:42] <admiral0> and there were a lot of conf files around that meant nothing anymore
[16:44] <admiral0> ActionParsnip:guess what is that : http://img440.imageshack.us/my.php?image=desktopbp8.png
[16:46] <ActionParsnip> admiral0: how do you mean?
[16:46] <ActionParsnip> looks like vista to me
[16:47] <admiral0> yes
[16:47] <admiral0> with kde...
[16:47] <admiral0> and amarok works
[16:47] <ActionParsnip> amarok runs in vista too
[16:47] <eagles0513875> ActionParsnip: they released windows version
[16:47] <admiral0> :D
[16:47] <ActionParsnip> im not a gloss guy, makes computers look lame to me
[16:48] <bewofthe>  decrapify?
[16:49] <ActionParsnip> just screems interior decorator to me
[16:49] <admiral0> yes i had a lot of junk in my /home
[16:53] <admiral0> yay i dindn't erase the cd with kubuntu
[16:54] <admiral0> any news about konversation 4 kde4
[16:54] <admiral0> ?
[16:55] <eagles0513875> !games
[16:55] <[|Liam|]> Does anyone know the sudo package for TeamSpeak?
[16:56] <eagles0513875> [|Liam|]: hey let me check
[16:56] <[|Liam|]> hey eagles0513875.
[16:56] <eagles0513875> [|Liam|]: its sudo apt-get install teamspeak-client
[16:56] <eagles0513875> [|Liam|]: r u going to host the server or u just need the client
[16:56] <[|Liam|]> just the clieent
[16:57] <eagles0513875> [|Liam|]: r u going to host the server or u just need the client
[16:57] <eagles0513875> [|Liam|]: its sudo apt-get install teamspeak-client
[16:57] <eagles0513875> sry ignore one beofre this last one
[16:57] <[|Liam|]> okay
[16:58] <eagles0513875> [|Liam|]: did it install and work for u
[16:58] <[|Liam|]> Yeah thanks
[16:59] <eagles0513875> [|Liam|]: no prob
[16:59] <eagles0513875> BluesKaj: im blue abu di abu die lol
[17:00] <BluesKaj> eagles0513875:  uhm .... okaaay
[17:00] <eagles0513875> BluesKaj: lol hi
[17:04] <girao> kurumin ng what we need to now
[17:06] <twinkle> hey
[17:17] <willluongo> Hello, I reinstalled Kubuntu, and preserved the /home directory from the previous install. Now when I log in as the user from the previous install, it starts with the wrong resolution. No other user has this issue. Any ideas?
[17:18] <ActionParsnip> willluongo: resetup the resolution for the user
[17:18] <willluongo> ActionParsnip: I have, several times. It doesn't take
[17:19] <ActionParsnip> willluongo: try chmodding the whole directory to the user, it may help
[17:19] <ActionParsnip> sudo chmod -R <username> <homefolderlocation>
[17:20] <willluongo> ActionParsnip: What permissions do you recommend?
[17:20] <willluongo> do you mean chown?
[17:21] <ActionParsnip> yeah sorry
[17:21] <ActionParsnip> bah
[17:21] <ActionParsnip> chown
[17:21] <willluongo> I'm pretty sure I have done that but I will try again
[17:21] <willluongo> brb
[17:23] <willluongo> ActionParsnip: no dice... :(
[17:23] <ActionParsnip> crap
[17:23] <ActionParsnip> you could try chmod
[17:24] <willluongo> Yeah, I am a little hesitant though, I am not sure I want everything to be 755
[17:24] <ActionParsnip> willluongo: find where the settings for res are set and check that is 755
[17:24] <utente6> ciao
[17:24] <willluongo> If I knew where the file was that was causing the issue was I'd do that
[17:24] <Goan> I need to clear off $JAVA_HOME and redefine it to "/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/bin/java"
[17:25] <willluongo> ActionParsnip: yeah, I've checked every hidden directory though, and nothing evenlooks like something taht would effect that
[17:25] <Goan> how do I do that?
[17:25] <ActionParsnip> add it to ~/.bashrc
[17:26] <Goan> will the existing config be overwritten while loading bash shell for me?
[17:26] <Goan> overridden*
[17:27] <willluongo> Goan: If that is the variable that whatever you are trying to do is using, yes.
[17:27] <willluongo> But if you don't log out you will need to reload it:
[17:27] <willluongo> . .bashrc
[17:27] <ActionParsnip> if you set it in there the $JAVA_HOME variable will be set when you launch konsoles
[17:28] <ActionParsnip> Goan: once youve set it, run: source ~/.bashrc
[17:28] <ActionParsnip> Goan: and it wil be active in the current konsole too
[17:29] <Goan> doing the "export JAVA_HOME=$JAVA_HOME:/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/bin/java" just appends the path to whatever is there already.. but because of the wrong initial path, eclipse is not starting up
[17:29] <willluongo> goan You are setting the variable twice that way
[17:30] <willluongo> Goan: just do JAVA_HOME=/usr/lib/blablabla
[17:42] <oo0> how to make more users in inlogg?
[17:43] <the_darkside_986> Anyone using Kubuntu 8.10 beta?
[17:44] <ActionParsnip> !intrepid | the_darkside_986
[17:45] <oo0> how to find out what KDE ver i use?
[17:45] <oo0> how to find out what KDE ver i use?
[17:46] <administrator> hello all ive installed devede on my computer but evertime i try to convert it to an ISO it starts and then about %20 inbetween my computer switches off, any ideas what this could be???
[17:46] <oo0> how to find out what KDE ver i use?
[17:46] <administrator> 20%
[17:46] <oo0> how to find out what KDE version i use?
[17:47] <ActionParsnip> oo0: dpkg -l | grep -i kde
[17:47] <oo0> ok
[17:48] <ActionParsnip> oo0: you could pipe that into less to make it readable
[17:49] <oo0> ?
[17:49] <ActionParsnip> oo0: ﻿dpkg -l | grep -i kde | less
[17:49] <oo0> oh
[17:49] <ActionParsnip> | is a pipe
[17:49] <ActionParsnip> dpkg -l on its own would show ALL packages installed
[17:50] <ActionParsnip> so we pipe it to grep to chop out the lines containing kde
[17:50] <the_darkside_986> If I have to reinstall the OS just because of switching monitors, I think I might just install Kubuntu 8.10 beta anyway. This is absurd.
[17:50] <cuznt> that does not sound right...
[17:51] <ActionParsnip> the_darkside_986: fixing xorg should make it ko, thats all thats setting graphics up
[17:51] <cuznt> why would switching a monitor make any diff?
[17:51] <ActionParsnip> the_darkside_986: or use the vesa driver in xorg.conf and comment all the other fluff out
[17:51] <the_darkside_986> I've already tried that and the monitor keeps going to 1440x900 and not its correct 1366x768
[17:51] <the_darkside_986> *with the nvidia driver.
[17:51] <the_darkside_986> Nvidia is required because users sometimes play 3D games on that machine.
[17:52] <ActionParsnip> the_darkside_986: rip all nvidia stuff out
[17:53] <the_darkside_986> Well, I did a complete removal of nvidia-glx-new, and then later reinstalled it. didn't seem to help.
[17:53] <ActionParsnip> does it do the same in the live environmentr??
[17:54] <the_darkside_986> The liveCD runs non-binary drivers though. The vesa or 2D drivers can detect the settings, however.
[17:54] <v6lur> what to do if kpdf doesn't show japanese characters? i have some japanese fonts installed, and for example kannasaver shows them fine
[17:54] <ActionParsnip> the_darkside_986: on the live cd. I just wanna make sure the monitor is sound
[17:54] <v6lur> in acrobat reader the same pdf shows the japanese text fine
[17:55] <the_darkside_986> The monitor works just fine and I've been using it with Linux for a long time until I switched it to another Linux machine, which is the problem.
[17:56] <the_darkside_986> Well, it is an Nvidia 7300 GS if that means anything :(
[17:56] <the_darkside_986> *the graphics card
[17:57] <ActionParsnip> the_darkside_986: try envyng-qt
[18:01] <mrunagi> !rar
[18:19] <trappist> woooooooo!  after like a YEAR of trying to get kontact talking to my ldap server, I finally figure out I have to put my bind dn in the 'user' field.  bustication.
[18:25] <alucardromero> Anybody else have an issue with Konqueror not rendering MySpace correctly?
[18:25] <alucardromero> KDE4 does it well (expanding and collapsing).
[18:29] <SIRavecavec> HI i try to upgrade from kubuntu 8.04 to 8.10 and i cant.
[18:29] <stdin> SIRavecavec: you need to ask in #ubuntu+1
[18:32] <SIRavecavec> stdin: they do not know:(
[18:33] <giuseppe_> Hello to everybody, can help me about "shutdown"????
[18:33] <jefferson_> oi
[18:33] <jefferson_> br?
[18:33] <bob_> Hi all I'm trying to boot from a usb drive using encrypted lvm and it keeps dropping me into a busybox console can anyone help?
[18:33] <kniolet> giuseppe_: mdahn up?
[18:33] <kniolet> whats
[18:33] <kniolet> up
[18:33] <jefferson_> tem algm brasileiro
[18:34] <kniolet> sorry i forgot what keyboard layout i was using lol
[18:35] <giuseppe_> kniolet: sorry... what do you want to say?
[18:35] <kniolet> giuseppe_: what help did you need?
[18:36] <giuseppe_> kniolet: well, when I turn off my notebook (toshiba satellite A40-201), the last word is: halt now... but nothing...
[18:37] <kniolet> giuseppe_: you mean like when you go to shutdown it doesn't actually turn off the computer?
[18:38] <giuseppe_> kniolet: correct... it starts to turn off... but in the end when appears will now halt... nothing...
[18:40] <bilicki> hi guys, I am using kubuntu 8.10 with KDE 4.1, when KDE loads, I just get a blank screen and my mouse pointer, nothing else... any ideas? however, stuff is working in the background, as the wireless internet connection gets set up (I used another console by pressing ctrl+alt+F5 to get the latest updates) any ideas?
[18:40] <stdin> bilicki: intrepid support in #ubuntu+1
[18:40] <kniolet> giuseppe_: you should probably file a bug report on bugs.launchpad.net about it, i think it's a hardware-specific problem
[18:43] <raja__> remote support for Kubuntu desktop. can somebody help ?
[18:43] <kniolet> giuseppe_: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/255838
[18:43] <kniolet> giuseppe_: looks like there is already a bug report for it
[18:44] <cichy> Hi - did anyone encounter problem with random harddrive devices name change after reboot? sda changes to sdb and viceversa. I have kubuntu 8.04 and 2 harddisks - one sata and one ide. Kernel 2.6.24-21-generic
[18:44] <raja__> we have two Kubuntu desktops at different locations connected to Internet.
[18:44] <giuseppe_> kniolet: well, now I read it and let you know
[18:45] <stdin> cichy: that would be a good reason for using UUIDs rather then device names
[18:46] <kniolet> giuseppe_: it looks like the problem hasn't been solved yet, it would probably help to add a comment to it saying you have the issue also and the model number of your computer
[18:46] <raja__> The remote guy is a dumb user using some application and dont aware how to get ip so VNC is useless
[18:46] <cichy> I'm using UUID, but ide is truecrypted, therefore does not have UUID
[18:46] <giuseppe_> kniolet: yes I think so
[18:47] <raja__> earlier for windows desktop hewas using teamviewer and expects something similar to that on linux
[18:47] <raja__> is thre any s/w like teamviewer in linux ?
[18:48] <cichy> stdin: I'm using UUID, but ide is truecrypted, therefore does not have UUID
[18:48] <raja__> in teamviwer the user is suppose to run the application and get a connection ID and Password
[18:48] <raja__> which he communicates to guy giving support by telephone
[18:49] <raja__> and the support guy runs client s/w and enter connection ID
[18:50] <cichy> stdin: UUID is used to mount sda (where root exist) and also is used by grub
[18:50] <raja__> then the password and a remote support session starts where support person gets view/control of remote machine like VNC
[18:51] <raja__> does anybody know similar s/w on linux ?
[18:51] <stdin> cichy: the only thing I can find is this http://fixunix.com/hardware/516915-hard-disk-change-device-every-boot.html
[18:51] <chfwiggum> raja__: sth like KRemoteDesktop not sure bout the exact name
[18:52] <Nasj> !kicker
[18:52] <Nasj> !themes
[18:54] <cichy> stdin: Thanks, I did already see this....
[18:57] <raja__> chfwggum:It needs IP address
[18:59] <raja__> chfwggum : If the desktop is behind Broadband Router and in a LAN then u have to configure router for port forwarding abd user should get IP of Router
[18:59] <raja__> similarly firewall have to open porrt 5900
[19:00] <raja__> which is difficult for a ordinary application user with poor computer knowledge
[19:01] <Guest22552> my system tray is driving me mad! Sometimes it doesn't show certian icons and other times the icons pop right out and respond like windows! Any help?
[19:02] <raja__> so we need a solution like teamviewer where requesting for remote supoort is very easy
[19:02] <kniolet> Guest22552: mine did that too in 8.04, it seems to be much better in the 8.10 beta though (i know that doesn't really help)
[19:03] <Guest22552> kniolet: thanks, im definately going to upgrade 8.10 when its stable, mabye ill even try the beta because its driving me nuts. Thanks
[19:03] <raja__> no need for knowing ip, port forwarding, and firewall reconfiguring
[19:03] <antonio_> hola.hay alguien español o que lo hable???
[19:04] <antonio_> hellow
[19:04] <kniolet> antonio_: #kubuntu-es
[19:04] <EagleSn> antonio_ #kubuntu-es
[19:04] <antonio_> I'dont speak English.
[19:05] <antonio_> I speak Spanish+
[19:05] <EagleSn> antonio_ visita #kubuntu-es
[19:05] <kniolet> antonio_: join the #kubuntu-es channel then
[19:05] <antonio_> in spanish please
[19:05] <freaky_t> !es
[19:05] <freaky_t> :)
[19:05] <kniolet> yay for multilingual bots
[19:06] <freaky_t> hehe ^^
[19:06] <antonio_> my name is Miguel
[19:06] <Cugel> Hello, people.
[19:07] <antonio_> hello
[19:07] <kniolet> hi Cugel
[19:07] <[|Liam|]> Is there anyway to run a batch file without it opening up into KATE?
[19:07] <antonio_> any Spanish?
[19:08] <kniolet> antonio_: En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.
[19:08] <EagleSn> antonio_ nos estas vacilando o qué, te hemos dicho varias veces que visites le canal #kubuntu-es
[19:08] <kniolet> lol
[19:08] <makande> portuguese
[19:08] <Guest14015> [|Liam|]: do you mean 'batch' file, as in windows DOS batch script?
[19:08] <[|Liam|]> yeah
[19:08] <Cugel> Question: I want to put a text as a sort of overlay on the desktop. Like conky does, but more basic, just a text. Eterm can do it, maybe, but are there easier solutions?
[19:08] <Guest14015> you'll need to install/use freedos, a dos clone
[19:08] <[|Liam|]> oo okay
[19:09] <[|Liam|]> would Sudo get-apt install Freedos cover that?
[19:09] <Guest14015> package seems to be called "dosemu"
[19:10] <antonio_> alguien español?
[19:10] <makande> ALGUEM DE PORTUGAL???
[19:11] <antonio_> alguien español
[19:11] <antonio_> ??
[19:11] <LjL> !pt | makande
[19:11] <LjL> !es | antonio_
[19:11] <[|Liam|]> !ml
[19:11] <[|Liam|]> !nl
[19:11] <LjL> !msg the bot
[19:11] <[|Liam|]> sounds epic.
[19:11] <antonio_> pero no me funciona el canal en ESPAÑOL!!!!
[19:12] <BluesKaj> !es | antonio_
[19:13] <makande> how do I change to ubuntu-pt???
[19:13] <makande> im new to ubuntu...
[19:21] <EagleSn> makande be more clear pleae
[19:22] <[|Liam|]> [20:21] <-- makande has left this server (Remote closed the connection
[19:23] <[|Liam|]> Is it possible to open .rar files with Ark?
[19:23] <EagleSn> yes it is, install rar and unrar packages
[19:24] <[|Liam|]> And how can i do that?
[19:25] <EagleSn> K menu -> System -> Adept package manager
[19:25] <[|Liam|]> cant i do it with sudo?
[19:28] <emilsedgh> [|Liam|]: sure, sudo apt-get install unrar i think
[19:30] <cichy> stdin: I think I may have found solution - I think I can use /dev/disk/by-id, which does not change. From there I will get device name assigned, and voila. Thanks for your help, anyway!
[19:30] <[|Liam|]> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[19:30] <[|Liam|]> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[19:30] <[|Liam|]> Thats what i got emilsedgh
[19:30] <stdin> cichy: ah, I forgot you can use hardware IDs
[19:31] <stdin> !aptfix | [|Liam|]
[19:31] <Guest14015> [|Liam|]: no wiat
[19:31] <Guest14015> *wait
[19:31] <Guest14015> you probably still have adept open
[19:31] <[|Liam|]> >.<
[19:31] <[|Liam|]> yeah i do
[19:31] <[|Liam|]> is that a problem :
[19:31] <[|Liam|]> :$
[19:31] <Guest14015> it's specially locked so that only 1 app can try and install things at a time
[19:31] <[|Liam|]> Oh okay thanks :D
[19:32] <Guest14015> perhaps that warning should be clearer
[19:32] <[|Liam|]> Yeah says 'Is another process using it?' - that explains it
[19:32] <[|Liam|]> probably means adept by that
[19:32] <Guest14015> yeah
[19:32] <[|Liam|]> working now ;)
[19:33] <[|Liam|]> I've installed Unrar now, question is: where is it? >.<
[19:34] <MrKennie> [|Liam|]: which unrar
[19:35] <[|Liam|]> sudo apt-get install unrar
[19:35] <[|Liam|]> that one
[19:35] <MrKennie> [|Liam|]: no, I mean type "which unrar"
[19:35] <Guest14015> unrar is a command line tool. it won't appear in the menu
[19:36] <[|Liam|]> oo
[19:36] <[|Liam|]> so how do i use it Guest14015?
[19:36] <Guest14015> however - ark should now understand how to read rars I think.
[19:36] <Guest14015> unrar x <ilename.rar
[19:37] <Predator106> which kde vers. will ibex be using? is it 4.2?
[19:37] <MrKennie> 4.1.2
[19:37] <[|Liam|]> Cannot open nr_pk_client_v1.24.rar
[19:37] <[|Liam|]> No such file or directory
[19:37] <[|Liam|]> No files to extract
[19:37] <Predator106> ok
[19:38] <[|Liam|]> o there we go
[19:40] <[|Liam|]> Guest14015: everytime i try to run dos emulator it doesnt open :(
[19:44] <[|Liam|]> ugh anyone?
[20:13] <lionblack> Hi, can you help me about turn off?
[20:14] <lionblack> why my notebook is not able to turn off?
[20:16] <eagles0513875> !es | pep
[20:16] <eagles0513875> !es | pepe
[20:31] <scriptx> hai.  is there a adobe pdf package?
[20:41] <\Kira> Im trying to configure kubuntu's boot, but Im unfamiliar with the boot sequence. I think it goes: GRUB, Usplash, kdm, then my login splash. But on kdelook it has options for the bootsplash and gfxboot. Were are those in the sequence?
[20:55] <\Kira> anyone?
[20:56] <cuznt> !boot sequence
[20:57] <crimsun> \Kira: gfxboot is used on the desktop cd but not in an installed instance.  bootsplash can refer to usplash.
[20:58] <\Kira> okay, that makes sense, little strange that they would do that, but okay
[20:58] <\Kira> thanks
[21:41] <Wharfedale> hi there, after upgrading my kde version on kubuntu, my nvidia 3D support stopped working
[21:43] <EvilDaemon> Wharfedale: Maybe gotta downgrade?
[21:43] <Wharfedale> so theres no fix?
[21:43] <Wharfedale> :|
[21:44] <Roey> EvilDaemon:  nice nick
[21:45] <EvilDaemon> Roey: Uh, thanks?
[21:45] <Roey> heh
[21:45] <EvilDaemon> Wharfedale: there may be, did google weild any results?
[22:00] <Wharfedale> EvilDaemon: nope
[22:01] <Wharfedale> i just cant  activate the driver
[22:02] <EvilDaemon> did you try 'nvidia 3d support kubuntu fix' on google? If not, then I suggest downgrading. unless anyone else has a suggestion.
[22:25] <donjr_KS> Isit possible to burn avi files as VCD files from kubuntu?
[22:29] <donjr_KS> Can anyone tell me where I might find more information on burning avi files as VCD files?
[22:30] <Tann> k3b
[22:30] <Tann> woops
[22:30] <Tann> (wrong window)
[22:31] <donjr_KS> Alright, I now k3b works well for iso's, but yeah, thanks.
[22:31] <Tann> no problem. I didn't mean to type that in.
[22:45] <nenad> hello
[22:46] <ollie> #ubuntu
[22:46] <ollie> grrr
[22:46] <ollie> how do i join the ubuntu chat?
[22:47] <nenad> first time on Linux
[22:47] <ollie> me?
[22:47] <ollie> ive been on here loads
[22:47] <ollie> but /#ubuntu isnt working
[22:47] <nenad> no I
[22:47] <ollie> please help me join ubuntu
[22:47] <ollie> #ubun
[22:48] <ollie> gotit
[22:48] <nenad> How to conecct 2 monitors in 1
[22:50] <jussi01> ollie: /join #ubuntu
[23:00] <plontaj> hallo
[23:01] <[|Liam|]> [AMSG]ALL VITALITY MEMBERS GET INTO THE WAR CHAN NOW OR GET PWNED BY ME - PM HALFOP+ FOR THE KEY
[23:06] <[|Liam|]> Is there anyway to get Ventrilo on Kubuntu?
[23:07] <szuper-t> hali
[23:12] <plontaj> join #ubuntu pl
[23:14] <szuper-t> beszél itt valaki magyarul?
[23:17] <szuper-t> ok
[23:17] <LjL> !en
[23:17] <szuper-t> szia
[23:17] <LjL> !hu | szuper-t
[23:18] <szuper-t> thx:)
[23:22] <jefferson_> socorro
[23:29] <etfb> Is there a program in Kubuntu that does what MS Outlook's meeting reminder does, ie keep track of appointments and reminders?  Bonus points if it will send emails or work across computers on a home ethernet network.
[23:38] <Tann> etfb: I believe that kontact will do that.
[23:41] <Tann> etfb: alternatively you can also use kalarm
[23:41] <albhack> is there anyone
[23:41] <albhack> here
[23:41] <Tann> Yes
[23:41] <woddf2> Hello
[23:41] <woddf2> I have lost sound for all non--KDE 4 applications!
[23:41] <Tann> Hello.
[23:42] <woddf2> Hello
[23:42] <woddf2> I have lost sound for all non--KDE 4 applications!
[23:43] <Tann> Don't think I can help you there.
[23:44] <woddf2> Thanks anyway
[23:44] <woddf2> Goodbye
[23:44] <etfb> Tann: Hmmm! Looks like he gave up rather easily...
[23:45] <Tann> yeah
[23:45] <Tann> Never seen that happen.
[23:45] <etfb> Patience is a virtue.  It also gives you a better chance of fixing your bugs...
[23:45] <benbloom> lol Tann & etfb I was actually looking up the channel id for him
[23:46] <Tann> isn't it like #kubuntu-kde4?
[23:46] <benbloom> i guess it's just #kde
[23:46] <benbloom> i dont know
[23:47] <benbloom> yup Tann. that's the one
[23:47] <petr> bvb
[23:47] <petr> aaaaaaaaaaa
[23:48] <petr> I install new kubunyy
[23:48] <petr> where is ICQ here? In kubuntu???
[23:49] <Tann> Like the instant messger?
[23:49] <Tann> messager**
[23:49] <petr> no
[23:49] <petr> it is "chat"
[23:49] <petr> I want qip
[23:49] <Tann> yeah, thats what I meant
[23:49] <etfb> Tann: Wow - I remember using Kontact before.  It's pretty hideous.  I created an "event" with a time and an alarm, and it told me I wasn't the organiser, then asked me which of two identically-named "resources" I should put it in, then put two entries in the calendar for it...
[23:50] <etfb> Ugly piece of work...
[23:50] <Tann> petr: You want to use Kopete. It does ICQ, AIM, MSN, Yahoo, Jabber, etc
[23:50] <Tann> etfb: wow thats odd.
[23:50] <petr> ))) thenks
[23:50] <Tann> no problem
[23:51] <Tann> I've never actually used kontact for calendars though. Just email and rss
[23:51] <etfb> Also, it defaulted the date to the 19th of October, but I'm in Australia, UTC+1100, where it
[23:51] <etfb> 's now the 20th.
[23:51] <albhack> lool
[23:51] <albhack> now
[23:51] <albhack> i am in kde
[23:52] <etfb> Ah well, I'll see if I can track down the bugs and fix them.  That's what KDE is all about, after all: putting up with stupid bugs and missing features because you don't want to be patronised by the Gnome project...
[23:53] <benbloom> wow etfb. why do you use kde?
[23:54] <Tann> yeah.
[23:54] <benbloom> dr_willis! my hero
[23:54] <benbloom> good to see you again sir
[23:54] <dr_willis> Now what did i do?
[23:55] <dr_willis> :)
[23:55] <etfb> benbloom: You want to know the real reason?  Because I'm used to double-clicking the window icon to close a window, and you can't do that in Gnome.  Drives me batty!  So I stick with KDE, even tho kubuntu feels like a poor cousin.
[23:55] <dr_willis> I feel that windows is a poor cousin to kde.. :)
[23:55] <albhack> who can help me to crack
[23:55] <etfb> Yay!  dr_willis!  The man (presumably) who solved my printer problems!
[23:55] <albhack> a wireless please contact in pm
[23:55] <benbloom> lol u were helping me in your sleep last night dr_willis
[23:56] <etfb> Windows is the dumb retarded cousin you keep in the cellar when visitors are around so he doesn't rub faeces on the vicar during tea.
[23:56] <dr_willis> heh.. I normally sleep 7AM to 4 in the afternoon.  3rd shift person here.
[23:56] <benbloom> ok so I switched to kubuntu because I felt like Gnome was lacking features and customizability
[23:56] <dr_willis> Sort of the reason im back to using gnome after trying KDE4 benbloom  :)
[23:56] <Zerothis> how do i increase my virtual using xrandr? I'd like a 1024x768 next to a 1024x768, I currently have a 640x480>640x480. Getting a 'screen cannot be larger than 1280x1200' error. manually adding "virtual 1664 768" to my xorg.conf boots to console
[23:57] <etfb> benbloom: Same here.  I much prefer the ability to change the things I don't like.  But my wife uses Ubuntu rather than Kubuntu, and I was amazed, for example, at how much easier it was to get printers working on her machine after only dr_willis could help me get them going here.
[23:57] <Tann> benbloom: and that is why I'm still with kde 3
[23:57] <albhack> helpppppppp meeee please
[23:57] <albhack> helpppppppp meeee please
[23:57] <albhack> to crack a passwd wireles
[23:57] <The_ManU_212> hi
[23:57] <dr_willis> albhack,  i wouldent much help in 'cracking passwords' from here.
[23:57] <Tann> The_ManU_212: Hello
[23:57] <benbloom> so kde4 is worse than gnome? but kde3 is best? that's what I run and im very happy with it
[23:57] <dr_willis> due to the questionable legality.
[23:58] <benbloom> but ibex will be native KDE4 right?
[23:58] <Tann> albhack: join the channel #aircrack-ng
[23:58] <dr_willis> ibex has kde4 yes.
[23:58] <Tann> it might help
[23:58] <The_ManU_212> i got a queston for adept manager, i use it for updates, which options offers it, can i also deactivate a part of an upate?
[23:58] <etfb> benbloom: I gather KDE4 is still pretty flakey.  Features missing, bugs, that sort of thing.
[23:58] <albhack> thnx
[23:58] <The_ManU_212> and start it alter? and how and whats this ubuntu sign for some apps have it some not
[23:59] <etfb> dr_willis: Does it really?  Interesting!  I didn't think it was quite ready for the desktop just yet.