[09:45] <Newhoa> Does anyone have a second for a few quick questions?
[18:33] <rsc-> hiiiiiiiiii.
[18:34] <thorwil> hi rsc-
[18:34] <rsc-> i got a cute idea
[18:34] <rsc-> maybe a si scott style jaunty
[18:34] <rsc-> like http://dump.ambiescent.com/i/rico-ss.jpg
[18:34] <rsc-> haha.
[18:34] <rsc-> just ranting.
[18:34] <rsc-> good evening folks
[18:37] <rsc-> whatcha think folks?
[18:37] <thorwil> if you can pull that off - although if the motive is a jackalope, i doubt it will make it into the release
[18:38] <rsc-> why?
[18:38] <rsc-> no more animals, eh?
[18:40] <thorwil> well, it was presented as a rule to not use the codename animals ... until hardy. so no hard rules there. but the jackalope is the first imaginative animal in the series
[18:41] <thorwil> rsc-: did you read my post about Kyūdō: Means to Express the Message?
[18:41] <rsc-> oh, i haven't been reading aynthing from the ML/wiki in a long white
[18:41] <rsc-> while*, sorry
[18:42] <thorwil> rsc-: asking because i got no feedback there at all ... and yours I would be most interested in
[18:42] <rsc-> link? :)
[18:43] <thorwil> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/KyudoGuidelines/Message
[18:43] <thorwil> -> Means to Express the Message
[18:45] <rsc-> hmm.
[18:45] <rsc-> alright, ill meditate on this.
[18:45] <thorwil> cool
[18:47] <rsc-> you're putting a lot of effort into Kyudo, the unfortunate thing is there's not a lot of people who "get it"
[18:47] <rsc-> (by "get it" i dont just mean "understand what you're saying", I'd mean more like "understanding the need for a vision")
[18:47] <thorwil> yes, exactly
[18:48] <thorwil> i'm at a loss what to do about that. or even, if there is anything to do about that
[18:49] <rsc-> yeah.
[18:49] <rsc-> people will always go "OH HEY guys I made a cool Ubuntu wallpaper I thought the swirls are cool make it default guys!"
[18:50] <rsc-> which, also, is something that's striking me as a concern
[18:50] <rsc-> I think the vision works well when employed in bigger community efforts
[18:50] <rsc-> (e.g., Breathe)
[18:50] <rsc-> just a thought.
[18:50] <rsc-> I don't think you can simply say "here are the guidelines, now go make something"
[18:51] <thorwil> if only Breathe would be a bigger community effort. right now it is Sebastian doing the work, criticized by me :}
[18:52] <rsc-> haha :)
[18:52] <thorwil> rsc-: it was never meant that way, to leave it at he guideline level
[18:52] <rsc-> oh btw, i only saw the community backlash on the wallpaper now
[18:52] <rsc-> LOL
[18:53] <thorwil> currently i have a huge schedule problem. in other words: not getting shit done
[18:53] <thorwil> backlass?
[18:53] <thorwil> backlash, even
[18:53] <rsc-> yeah, the "waaah feces-on-wall with fingerpainted coffee stains" remarks
[18:54] <thorwil> oh, that. was expected, as far as i'm concerned
[18:54] <rsc-> which is something ive already anticipated, and warned about :b
[18:54] <thorwil> lol
[18:54] <thorwil> to be ignored. feces on the wall describes the niveau of some commenters
[19:00] <rsc-> niveau?
[19:00] <thorwil> level
[19:01] <rsc-> right
[19:01] <rsc-> okay
[21:47] <kooldude> hey
[21:48] <kooldude> ive been gone for a while, so can someone give me an update on what we're doing
[21:51] <kooldude> please?