| calc | hmm it can't find the oops yet | 00:00 |
|---|---|---|
| calc | er via that url | 00:00 |
| wgrant | Ah, I guess you might be able to do something useful there with your credentials. | 00:00 |
| wgrant | You'll need to wait up to 5 minutes for it to appear there. | 00:00 |
| calc | well i have access to it, it just said nothing was there yet | 00:02 |
| wgrant | calc: It's probably worth seeing if you can see it now. | 00:02 |
| calc | oh its there now | 00:02 |
| wgrant | I think it's on */5. | 00:02 |
| calc | says TimeoutError | 00:02 |
| wgrant | Oh dear. | 00:02 |
| wgrant | It's reproducible? | 00:02 |
| calc | yes | 00:02 |
| calc | every time i have tried to do it oops on me | 00:03 |
| wgrant | Over how long has it been doing this? | 00:03 |
| calc | today | 00:03 |
| calc | at least 2-3 hr i would guess | 00:03 |
| wgrant | Lovely. | 00:03 |
| calc | i've tried it probably 4-5 times for that one bug | 00:03 |
| wgrant | I wouldn't have thought that would be a particularly DB-heavy operation, really. | 00:03 |
| * persia suspects it to be ~ 12 hours | 00:03 | |
| calc | i have to leave now though, headed out to school reunion | 00:03 |
| * calc bbl | 00:04 | |
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| Hobbsee | LimCore: please keep all discussions about the US, and patents, away from ubuntu development channels. We have a release to do, and do not need you soapboxing. If i see you do again, you'll get a holiday from both here and -motu. | 00:55 |
| jtisme | how do i mount internal floppy in 8.10 automount not in fstab | 03:05 |
| Hobbsee | jtisme: this isn't a support channel. | 03:05 |
| jtisme | ok thanks | 03:05 |
| pwnguin | i wonder if bootchart should be saving pngs instead of svg | 04:03 |
| pwnguin | i've got like 150 megs of bootcharts since dapper | 04:05 |
| pwnguin | it would be neat to graph out the trajectory of boot speed over time, but that'd be hard with pngs =( | 04:06 |
| NCommander | StevenK, now that I see linux-lpia in the queue, does that mean we're making progress? | 05:40 |
| NCommander | StevenK, https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/intrepid/+source/linux-lpia-meta/+bug/284368 - want me to tackle this? | 05:43 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 284368 in linux-lpia-meta "linux-lpia-meta needs to depends on linux-firmware" [Critical,New] | 05:43 |
| StevenK | NCommander: No, it's fine | 05:44 |
| wgrant | calc: You should be able to approve that nomination now that LP is fixed. | 05:45 |
| NCommander | StevenK, know any good RC bugs that could use a hand? | 05:46 |
| NCommander | StevenK, https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/intrepid/+source/linux-ports/+bug/213668 - if I cook a patch for this, would upload? (the fix was already SRUed, it simply needs to be repeated for Intrepid) | 05:47 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 213668 in linux-ports "Hardy: please enable PASEMI_MAC for powerpc64-smp" [Medium,Fix committed] | 05:47 |
| calc | wgrant: ok, just got back home | 05:57 |
| ScottK | StevenK or slangasek: Would you please accept libspf2. I have one rdepend I need to upload for a rebuild after it's built/published (this is the one we discussed at the last release meeting). | 06:07 |
| StevenK | I'm no release team member | 06:08 |
| ScottK | Ah. Right. Got the roles confused. Sorry abou that. | 06:09 |
| slangasek | StevenK: it's in universe though, and ScottK /is/ motu-release, so he's allowed to ask archive folks directly for approvals :) | 06:09 |
| StevenK | Fair enough | 06:09 |
| slangasek | I'll grab it in a sec, anyway | 06:10 |
| StevenK | slangasek, ScottK: Accepted | 06:10 |
| ScottK | StevenK: Thanks. | 06:11 |
| ScottK | slangasek: I'll have a Main upload I can ask you about here in a few minutes. Just so you don't feel left out ... | 06:11 |
| StevenK | Hehe | 06:11 |
| slangasek | :-) | 06:11 |
| NCommander | StevenK, did you get an ack from ubuntu-release on linux-lpia? | 06:11 |
| StevenK | NCommander: Yes, it's building. | 06:15 |
| NCommander | YAY | 06:15 |
| NCommander | that makes me happy | 06:15 |
| ScottK | slangasek: Would you please accept kdebase. Its a two line patch and it makes it so you can actualy create a working new user via KDE. | 06:26 |
| ScottK | There. Now it's even. | 06:26 |
| slangasek | kdebase, or kdeadmin? | 06:28 |
| ScottK | slangasek: Bah. Right. kdeadmin. Sorry. | 06:29 |
| slangasek | done | 06:29 |
| ScottK | slangasek: Thanks. | 06:29 |
| pochu | slangasek: thanks for the sponsorship! | 09:45 |
| lool | persia: only seeing your question now and lastlog is short | 10:18 |
| lool | yeah I care to upload linux-lpia | 10:18 |
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| === asac__ is now known as asac | ||
| pzn | I'd like to report a wishlist bug: when screen is locked, the keyboard buttons volume-up volume-down suspend and some others could work without unlocking the screen. to which package should I post this kind of wishlist? | 11:57 |
| * RainCT doesn't know but thinks that that's a nice idea :) | 11:59 | |
| ogra | there is a bug already somewhere | 12:00 |
| ogra | a quite old one | 12:00 |
| ogra | look for "media keys" among the gss bugs | 12:00 |
| ogra | (gss -> gnome-screensaver) | 12:00 |
| pzn | ogra: thanks | 12:24 |
| zul | 2cheeks | 13:05 |
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| === thunders1ruck is now known as gnomefreak | ||
| scuser | how to redirect simple bind authentication is redirected to saslauthd ? | 13:27 |
| scuser | how to redirect simple bind authentication to saslauthd ? | 13:28 |
| james_w | release team: bug 269651 isn't release targeted, but it has a lot of subscribers and duplicates, and is a pain for those who get hit, as they lose some desktop functionality until they restart their session. Would you accept and upload of my proposed patch to fix it? | 13:29 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 269651 in consolekit "console-kit-daemon crashed with SIGSEGV in g_str_hash()" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/269651 | 13:29 |
| jspiro | hi all. Idea: the desktop editions of *buntu should check at startup if the computer's clock is way off. If it is, it should automatically retrieve the correct time using Internet time service. | 13:33 |
| NCommander | jspiro, submit it to brainstorm | 13:34 |
| cjwatson | ntpdate is already in minimal | 13:34 |
| jspiro | NCommander: i will file a bug. but wait, there's more | 13:34 |
| cjwatson | and comes with an /etc/network/if-up.d/ script | 13:34 |
| cjwatson | if that isn't working, it's a bug, not an "idea" | 13:34 |
| Hobbsee | i wonder if that's compatible with the new NM world order. | 13:34 |
| jspiro | cjwatson: ah, i didn't know my idea was already implemented. thanks for pointing that out :) | 13:34 |
| cjwatson | yes, I don't know what NM does with /etc/network/if-up.d/, if anything | 13:35 |
| jspiro | cjwatson, Hobbsee, I am going to irc.gnome.org to ask. (Btw I am the same person as "unfo". I have registered both nicks.) | 13:36 |
| Hobbsee | jspiro: wouldn't be that hard to test out, actually. | 13:37 |
| jspiro | I don't have network-manager installed on this PC. It is a Debian PC with KDE. | 13:37 |
| jspiro | (I got my idea when my hacker friend told me about a computer with noob owner whose clock was wrong, and the owner kept getting Firefox "certificate not yet valid" errors. I suspect it was a Windows computer.) | 13:37 |
| jspiro | cjwatson, Hobbsee, http://kutuma.blogspot.com/2007/11/changing-default-gateway-using-network.html seems to me to *probably* imply that network-manager executes if-up.d scripts. | 13:40 |
| * Hobbsee eyes cjwatson | 13:41 | |
| jspiro | Hobbsee: why did you eye him? :) | 13:41 |
| cjwatson | (connection fixed) | 13:42 |
| Hobbsee | oh, finally | 13:43 |
| Hobbsee | wonder why she didn't come to -ops and tell us that. | 13:43 |
| cjwatson | don't know, she /msged me for help | 13:43 |
| Hobbsee | ah well. guess i'll find out soon :) | 13:43 |
| Hobbsee | (and hurrah for sucky connections!) | 13:44 |
| cjwatson | jspiro: implies that, in that particular release of Ubuntu, if-up.d scripts were executed when using network-manager | 13:45 |
| cjwatson | that could be due to NM indirecting through something that executed them, rather than executing them itself. At any rate this is speculation; somebody should check. | 13:45 |
| jspiro | cjwatson: ok I will ask in channel #nm (it's right here on Freenode) | 13:47 |
| jspiro | what should i ask? | 13:47 |
| jspiro | all : how's this? "Do all versions of NetworkManager always run the scripts in if-up.d at every bootup?" | 13:49 |
| cjwatson | no, you should try it | 13:49 |
| cjwatson | on current Ubuntu | 13:49 |
| jspiro | cjwatson: all I have is 8.04 | 13:49 |
| jspiro | I don't have a wireless card | 13:49 |
| cjwatson | please don't ask network-manager upstream how network-manager behaves in Ubuntu | 13:49 |
| cjwatson | it's inappropriate and will just annoy people | 13:49 |
| jspiro | cjwatson: ah. fair | 13:49 |
| jspiro | is 8.04 and no wireless card good enough for testing? | 13:49 |
| cjwatson | I have no idea | 13:49 |
| jspiro | oh btw we forgot modem users | 13:49 |
| cjwatson | perhaps somebody else will have some time to help out | 13:50 |
| jspiro | I wonder if modem users' PCs run if-up.d scripts at login time | 13:50 |
| jspiro | *ppp_up time | 13:50 |
| Hobbsee | james_w: that probably should be release targetted. | 13:56 |
| * Hobbsee pokes it | 13:56 | |
| james_w | thanks | 13:57 |
| jspiro | someone in #kde-devel said I am being annoying. am I? | 14:12 |
| jspiro | *was I | 14:12 |
| jspiro | I mean was I here | 14:12 |
| RainCT | heh | 14:13 |
| jspiro | RainCT: I mean was I annoying here before I corrected myself twice :) | 14:13 |
| RainCT | dunno, I wasn't reading :) | 14:14 |
| * Hobbsee mutters at nutcases on planet | 14:24 | |
| Hobbsee | yeah, really, 11 days before release is a *great* time to decide to start a spec to get mono out of intrepid. not! | 14:25 |
| sebner | Hobbsee: PATENZ FUD | 14:25 |
| Hobbsee | sebner: probably. I'm just stunned people still want to make contraversial changes like that at this point... | 14:26 |
| jspiro | Hobbsee: I have no clue if mono is good or bad. But are they saying it should be removed from *Intrepid*? | 14:26 |
| sebner | Hobbsee: well, maybe some think. let's discuss and 2 days later everthing is fine and finished | 14:26 |
| Hobbsee | jspiro: yup. | 14:27 |
| Hobbsee | sebner: yay, clueless people! But yes. | 14:27 |
| jspiro | Hobbsee: oh :( | 14:27 |
| NCommander | Hobbsee, link? | 14:27 |
| Hobbsee | NCommander: planet ubuntu | 14:28 |
| jspiro | IMO someone official should tell them there is no point trying to get it removed from Intrepid because the release is too soon. | 14:28 |
| Hobbsee | jspiro: i've already done that... | 14:29 |
| jspiro | Hobbsee: ah, I see your comment at http://gquigs.blogspot.com/2008/10/language-leadership-i-actually-gave-up.html#c5045436021106559200 - it was kind of you to do that. I wonder what the original poster will respond. :) | 14:32 |
| === bigon` is now known as bigon | ||
| scuser | hi all, I've disabled simple authentication using the configuration "security simple_bind=64" in the slapd.conf, but the system refuses to login although I can obtain tickets for the same user which I'm trying to login with and that user is in the ldap database and I can login using it when the binding method is simple; here is what kerberos logs produces http://paste.ubuntu.com/59709/ any... | 15:18 |
| scuser | ...help please ? | 15:18 |
| geser | scuser: this is not a support channel, please try #ubuntu | 15:39 |
| kirkland | slangasek: hiya, could you please review the patch attached to https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/intrepid/+source/ecryptfs-utils/+bug/272232 | 16:41 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 272232 in ecryptfs-utils "passwd - passwords do not match but updated successfully" [High,In progress] | 16:41 |
| kirkland | slangasek: it fixes both 272232 and bug #259293 | 16:42 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 259293 in ecryptfs-utils "Ecryptfs Private Directory Randomly Unmounts" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/259293 | 16:42 |
| kirkland | slangasek: jdstrand has reviewed it, and I have incorporated his suggestions and tested it | 16:42 |
| jdstrand | kirkland: did you see my comment about decrement()? | 16:45 |
| === mail is now known as giskard | ||
| lfaraone | Hey, kinda important bug (from a legal standpoint): bug 285469 | 18:27 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 285469 in firefox-3.0 "XML Parsing Error: unclosed token when clicking on "Know your rights" button" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/285469 | 18:27 |
| sroecker | I need help with bug 250425, it's actually a gcc bug | 18:33 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 250425 in zsnes "zsnes crashes with buffer overflow on startup" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/250425 | 18:33 |
| james_w | lfaraone: hey, please ask if they restarted firefox after the upgrade. | 18:37 |
| james_w | lfaraone: or do you see it too? | 18:38 |
| RainCT | I guess the nominations on bug #268996 can be rejected | 18:44 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 268996 in nmap "Update nmap to version 4.75" [Wishlist,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/268996 | 18:44 |
| lfaraone | james_w: I see it too. | 18:48 |
| lfaraone | Oh, and what's the best way to package docs in docbook format? (where do I put them in the FS) | 18:48 |
| lfaraone | (for use with Yelp and the kde help ssytem) | 18:48 |
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| drH0use | perchè è sconsigliato installare oo3? | 19:12 |
| cjwatson | lfaraone: thanks - marking as release-critical | 19:37 |
| lfaraone | cjwatson: thanks. | 19:52 |
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| === ion__ is now known as ion_ | ||
| === LimCore_ is now known as LimCore | ||
| a11en | I need to load my network card to ubuntu, but I don't have the driver-cd. Is there anyway I can pack it up on Vista and since Ubuntu is on the same partition reach into the backup file and load it that way? | 21:44 |
| ScottK | a11en: Support is in #ubuntu or #ubuntu+1 (for Intrepid). | 21:46 |
| ogra | mumble .... | 22:20 |
| ogra | why did my webcam vanish | 22:20 |
| james_w | ogra: a gspca one? | 22:31 |
| ogra | james_w, uvcvideo | 22:32 |
| ogra | but it seems to be simply gone | 22:33 |
| ogra | nothing shows it anymore | 22:33 |
| james_w | ah, ok, that I know nothing about | 22:33 |
| ogra | not even if i load the module its discovered | 22:33 |
| directhex | not in lsusb? | 22:33 |
| ogra | its really weird | 22:33 |
| ogra | nope | 22:33 |
| ogra | not even there | 22:33 |
| directhex | then it's just plain not detected | 22:33 |
| ogra | if the laptop wouldnt be that new i would think its actually broken | 22:33 |
| directhex | shows up plugged into a different pc? | 22:33 |
| ogra | its integrated in the LCD :) | 22:34 |
| directhex | oh. um... rebooting doesn't help? nothing in dmesg about attempted usb handshakes? | 22:34 |
| ogra | it worked in hardy beta and thats actually when i used it last time | 22:34 |
| ogra | i would have thought i dreamed i used it but there are stored pics and test movies in cheese :) | 22:35 |
| ogra | and i just tried to use it again on friday | 22:35 |
| ogra | so i dont even know when it vanished | 22:35 |
| directhex | it might be fluke that it's not working now - the lack of metion on lsusb is serious. much moreso than nothing from uvcvideo | 22:36 |
| directhex | it should show up on lsusb even if there are 0 drivers | 22:36 |
| ogra | i know | 22:36 |
| ogra | i'm not sure though it is even attached to usb ... | 22:37 |
| ogra | it might be attached to some PCI bus, ot to the internal firewire | 22:38 |
| * ogra makes a note to store lspci and lsusb next time he buys a new system | 22:39 | |
| ogra | lshal obviously shows an unknown button with info.product=Video Bus | 22:41 |
| ogra | (no its not the lid switch) | 22:42 |
| ogra | and apparently hal decided to apply keyboard settings and evdev to it because it has button in its input.capabilities | 22:43 |
| stgraber | ogra: and you have it working when botting an hardy livecd ? | 22:44 |
| ogra | no | 22:44 |
| ogra | thats the fun | 22:44 |
| stgraber | did you do a BIOS update recently ? (sounds like broken ACPI) | 22:44 |
| ogra | nope | 22:44 |
| ogra | and the BIOS has no option to switch the cam on or off | 22:45 |
| ogra | the hardware is like i bought it, didnt change a thing | 22:45 |
| ogra | and the most funny thing is: | 22:46 |
| ogra | ogra@osiris:~$ lshal|grep camera | 22:46 |
| ogra | access_control.type = 'camera' (string) | 22:46 |
| stgraber | yeah ... | 22:47 |
| ogra | ... belongs to a | 22:47 |
| ogra | udi = '/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/fuse' | 22:47 |
| ogra | access_control.file = '/dev/fuse' (string) | 22:47 |
| ogra | access_control.type = 'camera' (string) | 22:47 |
| ogra | :P | 22:47 |
| stgraber | I also have this one but I have no camera in my laptop | 22:47 |
| * ogra doesnt really get why fuse is access_control.type = 'camera' | 22:47 | |
| ogra | might be a libgphoto thing though | 22:48 |
| stgraber | yes, so that also means your system doesn't see your webcam at all (as I also get that on a system without a webcam) | 22:48 |
| ogra | i think the unknown button attached to the video bus with keymap settings applied might be the cam though | 22:49 |
| ogra | well | 22:49 |
| ogra | have a look at that device | 22:50 |
| ogra | http://paste.ubuntu.com/59880/ | 22:50 |
| stgraber | ogra: I have the same here :( | 22:51 |
| ogra | oh | 22:51 |
| stgraber | ogra: http://paste.ubuntu.com/59881/ | 22:51 |
| stgraber | except the keyboard layout is fr_CH and not de_DE :) | 22:51 |
| ogra | i dont get why hal applies keymap and friends to it ... it shouldnt | 22:51 |
| ogra | yeah | 22:52 |
| stgraber | well, in my case I'm sure it's not a webcam so I don't quite get why hal would say "Video Bus" for a keyboard | 22:52 |
| ogra | yeah | 22:53 |
| ogra | do you have any special buttons ? | 22:53 |
| ogra | i have two, one for rotation of the touchscreen and one as a virtual mouse button if i use the convertible tablet mode | 22:54 |
| stgraber | I have some multimedia things (sound level, mute, information center (?) and presentation) but these are mapped to standard keycodes | 22:54 |
| === TheMuso_ is now known as TheMuso | ||
| ogra | GEEEZ !!!! | 23:11 |
| * ogra found his camera | 23:11 | |
| ogra | !! | 23:11 |
| stgraber | oh, where was it ? :) | 23:11 |
| ogra | hidden in an unnamed fn-F key sequence you can toggle its power on/off | 23:12 |
| stgraber | oh | 23:12 |
| ogra | there is no icon on the F10 key for it | 23:12 |
| ogra | i just fund the combo in the handbook | 23:12 |
| ogra | all other fn key sequences have a little blue icon on the F keys | 23:13 |
| stgraber | ogra: btw, what do you think of the MSI WInd ? | 23:13 |
| ogra | nice device | 23:13 |
| ogra | though i would invest the 150€ to get a clevo 120 :) | 23:14 |
| * ogra really really loves clevo lappies | 23:14 | |
| ogra | stgraber, http://www.clevo.fr/index1.html | 23:14 |
| ogra | look at the tn129r | 23:15 |
| ogra | err | 23:15 |
| ogra | tn120r | 23:15 |
| stgraber | oh, looks good | 23:16 |
| stgraber | and cheap for that kind of device | 23:16 |
| ogra | thats waht i'm using atm :) | 23:21 |
| ogra | just know the webcam is switched on with fn+f10 :) | 23:21 |
| stgraber | :) | 23:21 |
| * ogra does a reboot to see if the module is detected properly | 23:22 | |
| === LimCore_ is now known as LimCore | ||
| ogra | hmm, cheese doesnt really get along with it anymore | 23:29 |
| ogra | but ekiga does :) | 23:29 |
| ogra | hmm, gstreamer doesnt seem happy either | 23:31 |
| ogra | hrm | 23:36 |
| TheMuso | slangasek: re bug #273507, I'l look into adding the gconf schema referenced to our existing package. While the ubuntu theme doesn't have such sounds defined for windw actions, other themes that people use may. | 23:39 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 273507 in libcanberra "No sound effects play when "play sound effects when buttons are clicked" is enabled" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/273507 | 23:39 |
| TheMuso | pitti: Demoting festival is fine by me. As for flite, why do you want it in main? IMO its not needed, as espeak covers the vast majority of use cases. | 23:40 |
| james_w | ogra: make sure you have latest gstreamer-plugins-good0.10, an ubuntu2 one, the v4l patch was accidentally dropped in ubuntu1 | 23:42 |
| ogra | james_w, i upgraded 1h ago | 23:42 |
| ogra | i think the latest came in there | 23:42 |
| ogra | but cheese doesnt show anyhing and locks up after a while | 23:43 |
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