[00:00] hmm it can't find the oops yet [00:00] er via that url [00:00] Ah, I guess you might be able to do something useful there with your credentials. [00:00] You'll need to wait up to 5 minutes for it to appear there. [00:02] well i have access to it, it just said nothing was there yet [00:02] calc: It's probably worth seeing if you can see it now. [00:02] oh its there now [00:02] I think it's on */5. [00:02] says TimeoutError [00:02] Oh dear. [00:02] It's reproducible? [00:02] yes [00:03] every time i have tried to do it oops on me [00:03] Over how long has it been doing this? [00:03] today [00:03] at least 2-3 hr i would guess [00:03] Lovely. [00:03] i've tried it probably 4-5 times for that one bug [00:03] I wouldn't have thought that would be a particularly DB-heavy operation, really. [00:03] * persia suspects it to be ~ 12 hours [00:03] i have to leave now though, headed out to school reunion [00:04] * calc bbl === emma_ is now known as emma [00:55] LimCore: please keep all discussions about the US, and patents, away from ubuntu development channels. We have a release to do, and do not need you soapboxing. If i see you do again, you'll get a holiday from both here and -motu. [03:05] how do i mount internal floppy in 8.10 automount not in fstab [03:05] jtisme: this isn't a support channel. [03:05] ok thanks [04:03] i wonder if bootchart should be saving pngs instead of svg [04:05] i've got like 150 megs of bootcharts since dapper [04:06] it would be neat to graph out the trajectory of boot speed over time, but that'd be hard with pngs =( [05:40] StevenK, now that I see linux-lpia in the queue, does that mean we're making progress? [05:43] StevenK, https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/intrepid/+source/linux-lpia-meta/+bug/284368 - want me to tackle this? [05:43] Launchpad bug 284368 in linux-lpia-meta "linux-lpia-meta needs to depends on linux-firmware" [Critical,New] [05:44] NCommander: No, it's fine [05:45] calc: You should be able to approve that nomination now that LP is fixed. [05:46] StevenK, know any good RC bugs that could use a hand? [05:47] StevenK, https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/intrepid/+source/linux-ports/+bug/213668 - if I cook a patch for this, would upload? (the fix was already SRUed, it simply needs to be repeated for Intrepid) [05:47] Launchpad bug 213668 in linux-ports "Hardy: please enable PASEMI_MAC for powerpc64-smp" [Medium,Fix committed] [05:57] wgrant: ok, just got back home [06:07] StevenK or slangasek: Would you please accept libspf2. I have one rdepend I need to upload for a rebuild after it's built/published (this is the one we discussed at the last release meeting). [06:08] I'm no release team member [06:09] Ah. Right. Got the roles confused. Sorry abou that. [06:09] StevenK: it's in universe though, and ScottK /is/ motu-release, so he's allowed to ask archive folks directly for approvals :) [06:09] Fair enough [06:10] I'll grab it in a sec, anyway [06:10] slangasek, ScottK: Accepted [06:11] StevenK: Thanks. [06:11] slangasek: I'll have a Main upload I can ask you about here in a few minutes. Just so you don't feel left out ... [06:11] Hehe [06:11] :-) [06:11] StevenK, did you get an ack from ubuntu-release on linux-lpia? [06:15] NCommander: Yes, it's building. [06:15] YAY [06:15] that makes me happy [06:26] slangasek: Would you please accept kdebase. Its a two line patch and it makes it so you can actualy create a working new user via KDE. [06:26] There. Now it's even. [06:28] kdebase, or kdeadmin? [06:29] slangasek: Bah. Right. kdeadmin. Sorry. [06:29] done [06:29] slangasek: Thanks. [09:45] slangasek: thanks for the sponsorship! [10:18] persia: only seeing your question now and lastlog is short [10:18] yeah I care to upload linux-lpia === tkamppeter_ is now known as tkamppeter === asac__ is now known as asac [11:57] I'd like to report a wishlist bug: when screen is locked, the keyboard buttons volume-up volume-down suspend and some others could work without unlocking the screen. to which package should I post this kind of wishlist? [11:59] * RainCT doesn't know but thinks that that's a nice idea :) [12:00] there is a bug already somewhere [12:00] a quite old one [12:00] look for "media keys" among the gss bugs [12:00] (gss -> gnome-screensaver) [12:24] ogra: thanks [13:05] 2cheeks === fta_ is now known as fta === thunders1ruck is now known as gnomefreak [13:27] how to redirect simple bind authentication is redirected to saslauthd ? [13:28] how to redirect simple bind authentication to saslauthd ? [13:29] release team: bug 269651 isn't release targeted, but it has a lot of subscribers and duplicates, and is a pain for those who get hit, as they lose some desktop functionality until they restart their session. Would you accept and upload of my proposed patch to fix it? [13:29] Launchpad bug 269651 in consolekit "console-kit-daemon crashed with SIGSEGV in g_str_hash()" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/269651 [13:33] hi all. Idea: the desktop editions of *buntu should check at startup if the computer's clock is way off. If it is, it should automatically retrieve the correct time using Internet time service. [13:34] jspiro, submit it to brainstorm [13:34] ntpdate is already in minimal [13:34] NCommander: i will file a bug. but wait, there's more [13:34] and comes with an /etc/network/if-up.d/ script [13:34] if that isn't working, it's a bug, not an "idea" [13:34] i wonder if that's compatible with the new NM world order. [13:34] cjwatson: ah, i didn't know my idea was already implemented. thanks for pointing that out :) [13:35] yes, I don't know what NM does with /etc/network/if-up.d/, if anything [13:36] cjwatson, Hobbsee, I am going to irc.gnome.org to ask. (Btw I am the same person as "unfo". I have registered both nicks.) [13:37] jspiro: wouldn't be that hard to test out, actually. [13:37] I don't have network-manager installed on this PC. It is a Debian PC with KDE. [13:37] (I got my idea when my hacker friend told me about a computer with noob owner whose clock was wrong, and the owner kept getting Firefox "certificate not yet valid" errors. I suspect it was a Windows computer.) [13:40] cjwatson, Hobbsee, http://kutuma.blogspot.com/2007/11/changing-default-gateway-using-network.html seems to me to *probably* imply that network-manager executes if-up.d scripts. [13:41] * Hobbsee eyes cjwatson [13:41] Hobbsee: why did you eye him? :) [13:42] (connection fixed) [13:43] oh, finally [13:43] wonder why she didn't come to -ops and tell us that. [13:43] don't know, she /msged me for help [13:43] ah well. guess i'll find out soon :) [13:44] (and hurrah for sucky connections!) [13:45] jspiro: implies that, in that particular release of Ubuntu, if-up.d scripts were executed when using network-manager [13:45] that could be due to NM indirecting through something that executed them, rather than executing them itself. At any rate this is speculation; somebody should check. [13:47] cjwatson: ok I will ask in channel #nm (it's right here on Freenode) [13:47] what should i ask? [13:49] all : how's this? "Do all versions of NetworkManager always run the scripts in if-up.d at every bootup?" [13:49] no, you should try it [13:49] on current Ubuntu [13:49] cjwatson: all I have is 8.04 [13:49] I don't have a wireless card [13:49] please don't ask network-manager upstream how network-manager behaves in Ubuntu [13:49] it's inappropriate and will just annoy people [13:49] cjwatson: ah. fair [13:49] is 8.04 and no wireless card good enough for testing? [13:49] I have no idea [13:49] oh btw we forgot modem users [13:50] perhaps somebody else will have some time to help out [13:50] I wonder if modem users' PCs run if-up.d scripts at login time [13:50] *ppp_up time [13:56] james_w: that probably should be release targetted. [13:56] * Hobbsee pokes it [13:57] thanks [14:12] someone in #kde-devel said I am being annoying. am I? [14:12] *was I [14:12] I mean was I here [14:13] heh [14:13] RainCT: I mean was I annoying here before I corrected myself twice :) [14:14] dunno, I wasn't reading :) [14:24] * Hobbsee mutters at nutcases on planet [14:25] yeah, really, 11 days before release is a *great* time to decide to start a spec to get mono out of intrepid. not! [14:25] Hobbsee: PATENZ FUD [14:26] sebner: probably. I'm just stunned people still want to make contraversial changes like that at this point... [14:26] Hobbsee: I have no clue if mono is good or bad. But are they saying it should be removed from *Intrepid*? [14:26] Hobbsee: well, maybe some think. let's discuss and 2 days later everthing is fine and finished [14:27] jspiro: yup. [14:27] sebner: yay, clueless people! But yes. [14:27] Hobbsee: oh :( [14:27] Hobbsee, link? [14:28] NCommander: planet ubuntu [14:28] IMO someone official should tell them there is no point trying to get it removed from Intrepid because the release is too soon. [14:29] jspiro: i've already done that... [14:32] Hobbsee: ah, I see your comment at http://gquigs.blogspot.com/2008/10/language-leadership-i-actually-gave-up.html#c5045436021106559200 - it was kind of you to do that. I wonder what the original poster will respond. :) === bigon` is now known as bigon [15:18] hi all, I've disabled simple authentication using the configuration "security simple_bind=64" in the slapd.conf, but the system refuses to login although I can obtain tickets for the same user which I'm trying to login with and that user is in the ldap database and I can login using it when the binding method is simple; here is what kerberos logs produces http://paste.ubuntu.com/59709/ any... [15:18] ...help please ? [15:39] scuser: this is not a support channel, please try #ubuntu [16:41] slangasek: hiya, could you please review the patch attached to https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/intrepid/+source/ecryptfs-utils/+bug/272232 [16:41] Launchpad bug 272232 in ecryptfs-utils "passwd - passwords do not match but updated successfully" [High,In progress] [16:42] slangasek: it fixes both 272232 and bug #259293 [16:42] Launchpad bug 259293 in ecryptfs-utils "Ecryptfs Private Directory Randomly Unmounts" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/259293 [16:42] slangasek: jdstrand has reviewed it, and I have incorporated his suggestions and tested it [16:45] kirkland: did you see my comment about decrement()? === mail is now known as giskard [18:27] Hey, kinda important bug (from a legal standpoint): bug 285469 [18:27] Launchpad bug 285469 in firefox-3.0 "XML Parsing Error: unclosed token when clicking on "Know your rights" button" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/285469 [18:33] I need help with bug 250425, it's actually a gcc bug [18:33] Launchpad bug 250425 in zsnes "zsnes crashes with buffer overflow on startup" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/250425 [18:37] lfaraone: hey, please ask if they restarted firefox after the upgrade. [18:38] lfaraone: or do you see it too? [18:44] I guess the nominations on bug #268996 can be rejected [18:44] Launchpad bug 268996 in nmap "Update nmap to version 4.75" [Wishlist,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/268996 [18:48] james_w: I see it too. [18:48] Oh, and what's the best way to package docs in docbook format? (where do I put them in the FS) [18:48] (for use with Yelp and the kde help ssytem) === robbie1 is now known as robbiew [19:12] perchè è sconsigliato installare oo3? [19:37] lfaraone: thanks - marking as release-critical [19:52] cjwatson: thanks. === cjwatson_ is now known as cjwatson === ion__ is now known as ion_ === LimCore_ is now known as LimCore [21:44] I need to load my network card to ubuntu, but I don't have the driver-cd. Is there anyway I can pack it up on Vista and since Ubuntu is on the same partition reach into the backup file and load it that way? [21:46] a11en: Support is in #ubuntu or #ubuntu+1 (for Intrepid). [22:20] mumble .... [22:20] why did my webcam vanish [22:31] ogra: a gspca one? [22:32] james_w, uvcvideo [22:33] but it seems to be simply gone [22:33] nothing shows it anymore [22:33] ah, ok, that I know nothing about [22:33] not even if i load the module its discovered [22:33] not in lsusb? [22:33] its really weird [22:33] nope [22:33] not even there [22:33] then it's just plain not detected [22:33] if the laptop wouldnt be that new i would think its actually broken [22:33] shows up plugged into a different pc? [22:34] its integrated in the LCD :) [22:34] oh. um... rebooting doesn't help? nothing in dmesg about attempted usb handshakes? [22:34] it worked in hardy beta and thats actually when i used it last time [22:35] i would have thought i dreamed i used it but there are stored pics and test movies in cheese :) [22:35] and i just tried to use it again on friday [22:35] so i dont even know when it vanished [22:36] it might be fluke that it's not working now - the lack of metion on lsusb is serious. much moreso than nothing from uvcvideo [22:36] it should show up on lsusb even if there are 0 drivers [22:36] i know [22:37] i'm not sure though it is even attached to usb ... [22:38] it might be attached to some PCI bus, ot to the internal firewire [22:39] * ogra makes a note to store lspci and lsusb next time he buys a new system [22:41] lshal obviously shows an unknown button with info.product=Video Bus [22:42] (no its not the lid switch) [22:43] and apparently hal decided to apply keyboard settings and evdev to it because it has button in its input.capabilities [22:44] ogra: and you have it working when botting an hardy livecd ? [22:44] no [22:44] thats the fun [22:44] did you do a BIOS update recently ? (sounds like broken ACPI) [22:44] nope [22:45] and the BIOS has no option to switch the cam on or off [22:45] the hardware is like i bought it, didnt change a thing [22:46] and the most funny thing is: [22:46] ogra@osiris:~$ lshal|grep camera [22:46] access_control.type = 'camera' (string) [22:47] yeah ... [22:47] ... belongs to a [22:47] udi = '/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/fuse' [22:47] access_control.file = '/dev/fuse' (string) [22:47] access_control.type = 'camera' (string) [22:47] :P [22:47] I also have this one but I have no camera in my laptop [22:47] * ogra doesnt really get why fuse is access_control.type = 'camera' [22:48] might be a libgphoto thing though [22:48] yes, so that also means your system doesn't see your webcam at all (as I also get that on a system without a webcam) [22:49] i think the unknown button attached to the video bus with keymap settings applied might be the cam though [22:49] well [22:50] have a look at that device [22:50] http://paste.ubuntu.com/59880/ [22:51] ogra: I have the same here :( [22:51] oh [22:51] ogra: http://paste.ubuntu.com/59881/ [22:51] except the keyboard layout is fr_CH and not de_DE :) [22:51] i dont get why hal applies keymap and friends to it ... it shouldnt [22:52] yeah [22:52] well, in my case I'm sure it's not a webcam so I don't quite get why hal would say "Video Bus" for a keyboard [22:53] yeah [22:53] do you have any special buttons ? [22:54] i have two, one for rotation of the touchscreen and one as a virtual mouse button if i use the convertible tablet mode [22:54] I have some multimedia things (sound level, mute, information center (?) and presentation) but these are mapped to standard keycodes === TheMuso_ is now known as TheMuso [23:11] GEEEZ !!!! [23:11] * ogra found his camera [23:11] !! [23:11] oh, where was it ? :) [23:12] hidden in an unnamed fn-F key sequence you can toggle its power on/off [23:12] oh [23:12] there is no icon on the F10 key for it [23:12] i just fund the combo in the handbook [23:13] all other fn key sequences have a little blue icon on the F keys [23:13] ogra: btw, what do you think of the MSI WInd ? [23:13] nice device [23:14] though i would invest the 150€ to get a clevo 120 :) [23:14] * ogra really really loves clevo lappies [23:14] stgraber, http://www.clevo.fr/index1.html [23:15] look at the tn129r [23:15] err [23:15] tn120r [23:16] oh, looks good [23:16] and cheap for that kind of device [23:21] thats waht i'm using atm :) [23:21] just know the webcam is switched on with fn+f10 :) [23:21] :) [23:22] * ogra does a reboot to see if the module is detected properly === LimCore_ is now known as LimCore [23:29] hmm, cheese doesnt really get along with it anymore [23:29] but ekiga does :) [23:31] hmm, gstreamer doesnt seem happy either [23:36] hrm [23:39] slangasek: re bug #273507, I'l look into adding the gconf schema referenced to our existing package. While the ubuntu theme doesn't have such sounds defined for windw actions, other themes that people use may. [23:39] Launchpad bug 273507 in libcanberra "No sound effects play when "play sound effects when buttons are clicked" is enabled" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/273507 [23:40] pitti: Demoting festival is fine by me. As for flite, why do you want it in main? IMO its not needed, as espeak covers the vast majority of use cases. [23:42] ogra: make sure you have latest gstreamer-plugins-good0.10, an ubuntu2 one, the v4l patch was accidentally dropped in ubuntu1 [23:42] james_w, i upgraded 1h ago [23:42] i think the latest came in there [23:43] but cheese doesnt show anyhing and locks up after a while