[00:00] <persia> Well, offsets things such that you're not exposing the race.  Generally better to guard arguments anyway, or wrap in an exception handler if there's no safe way to guard or the common case needs timing optimisation.
[00:01] <persia> (under the assumption that you're using a language that only passes control to the exception handler in the case of a fault of some sort, rather than one that implements as a conditional)
[00:01] <james_w> yeah, I will, I just don't know what the race is yet
[00:21] <avoine> there is a way to "kill" a build in my ppa of launchpad?
[00:22] <avoine> I have a compilation that is running for 2 hours that should take like 10min
[00:23] <wgrant> avoine: There is not.
[00:23] <avoine> humm
[00:23] <avoine> I guest it should timeout someday
[00:55] <jdong> avoine: if you are really concerned IIRC #launchpad has people that can terminate a build for it
[00:57] <avoine> ok thanks jdong
[00:58] <Hobbsee> ScottK: sweet - but i don't have removal powers.
[01:13] <StevenK> Hobbsee, ScottK: I'll bin kio-sword after I've dealt with the lpia kernel
[01:13] <Hobbsee> StevenK: you could smash launchpad to bits as well, if you liked...
[01:21] <jdong> what is the relationship between flashplugin-nonfree and adobe-flashplugin?
[01:21] <wgrant> jdong: The latter has the actual plugin in it, and is in partner.
[01:22] <jdong> wgrant: so does f-n fetch a-f? or are they independent / interchangeable packages?
[01:22] <wgrant> jdong: They are completely unrelated.
[01:23] <wgrant> Except for being means to install the same piece of software.
[01:23] <jdong> ok, gotcha
[03:32] <csilk> If upstream of aa requested package 'bug'  already has deb packages, would I just take their package and make sure it conforms to our policues or would I package the source afresh?
[03:32] <csilk> *policies
[03:33] <Hobbsee> well, ubuntu only accepts sources, not debs.
[03:33] <Hobbsee> so, if you can grab their source, make sure it conforms to our policies and such, then get it in, that would work.
[03:33] <Hobbsee> or do it completely from scratch
[03:33] <csilk> Hobbsee,  they only provide the tarballed source code and binary deb files
[03:34] <csilk> so I guess I should just package from scratch then
[03:34] <Hobbsee> yup
[03:34] <csilk> Ok, thanks
[08:30] <G__81> Hi everyone
[08:31] <G__81> i just got into this team by subscribing to the motu list and am gonna start off with my contributions :)
[08:31] <G__81> to just get a feel of how things happen, i would like to start off with bug triaging
[08:32] <hemanth> hello MOTU
[08:32] <hemanth> i previously tired packing this
[08:32] <hemanth> http://nsl10.csie.nctu.edu.tw/products/nctuns/download/download.php
[08:33] <hemanth> and failed doing so
[08:33] <hemanth> plz can anyone help me
[08:34] <NCommander> hemanth, you need to package the source code of a program, not the binaries of it
[08:34] <G__81> Hi NCommander
[08:34] <NCommander> G__81, hi
[08:34] <hemanth> NCommander, the link gives be the source code
[08:35] <NCommander> hemanth, no, the link lead me to a red hat package
[08:35] <G__81> i just subscribed to motu mailing list and have sent an introduction mail to the team :)
[08:35] <NCommander> G__81, I saw
[08:35] <hemanth> NCommander, its mentioned there
[08:35] <hemanth> NCommander, Other Linux distributions such as Debian may work with NCTUns because they use the same Linux kernel as Fedora
[08:36] <G__81> fedora ?
[08:36] <G__81> :)
[08:36] <hemanth> NCommander,  It is the user's responsibility to adjust configurations and settings if he (she) would like to install the latest NCTUns 5.0 on a different Linux distribution than Fedora 9
[08:36] <NCommander> I can read.
[08:36] <NCommander> hemanth, why did you fail to package this the first time around
[08:36] <NCommander> G__81, anyway, we're more bug fixing than triaging now (Intrepid releases in less than two weeks, its extremely late in the cycle)
[08:37] <hemanth> NCommander, i followed the steps ...made a deb file ...ran it ...it spoiled the dkpg
[08:37] <NCommander> hemanth, I highly recommend that if you are serious about becoming involved with Ubuntu development you work on similar tasks. Although creating a new package is relatively straightforward, it is not trival by any means
[08:38] <NCommander> G__81, #ubuntu-bugs can help you get started with triaging and fixing
[08:38] <hemanth> NCommander, i m very serious
[08:38] <hemanth> NCommander, i tried making few same packages ..i did it easily
[08:39] <hemanth> NCommander, but this one is too very complicated as it modifies the kernel
[08:39] <G__81> NCommander, Yeah true i agree
[08:39] <NCommander> hemanth, modifies the kernel, or includes a kernel module?
[08:39] <hemanth> NCommander, can u plz download the file and have a look
[08:39] <hemanth> NCommander, it tries to overwrite
[08:39] <NCommander> It's unacceptable for Ubuntu then
[08:40] <hemanth> NCommander, it has a Kernel module
[08:40] <NCommander> No package can install its own kernel
[08:40] <hemanth> NCommander, after installing actually it should appear in the boot menu
[08:41] <hemanth> NCommander, m very upset
[08:41] <hemanth> NCommander, i tired GNS3 also
[08:41] <NCommander> hemanth, that's extremely non-trival to package
[08:41] <hemanth> NCommander, its not satisfying my needs
[08:41] <NCommander> hemanth, since you need to hook to grub and do a LOT of things to make that even remotely packagable
[08:41] <hemanth> NCommander, i tired virtualbox...no use
[08:41] <NCommander> But looking on their site, I can't even determine what license its under
[08:42] <hemanth> NCommander, yeah ...i know ....i wouldn have done it , if it were not in my syllabus ..and will surely help loads of students
[08:43] <NCommander> hemanth, even if this package was more trival, it can't be included in Ubuntu at this time
[08:43] <NCommander> The archive has been in feature freeze, no new packages are accepted until Jaunty opens
[08:44] <hemanth> NCommander, o no ...ok at least is it possible for me to install it on my ubuntu
[08:45] <NCommander> Generally speaking, I'm going to say I don't know. Someone else involved with NSL may be able to help you with it, but its not me
[08:46] <hemanth> NCommander, o ok ...thank u for sparing ur time :)
[09:00] <Devastatorius> leave
[09:00] <Devastatorius> opps, sorry
[09:58] <slytherin> does anyone know where are the Debian changelogs gone? There is nothing here - http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/s/ and hence requestsync fails.
[10:08] <geser> slytherin: have you tried asking in #debian-devel on OFTC?
[10:09] <slytherin> geser: No. I thought someone here might already be knowing it.
[10:22] <G__81> i ve read the wiki page on what it needs to be done to become a ubuntu developer
[10:22] <G__81> i am aware of the fact that Ibex is 13 days from release now at this point of time what could i do to start off my contribution
[10:24] <slytherin> G__81: look at any bug fixes.
[10:25] <G__81> i am new to LP so can you provide me the link please
[10:26] <slytherin> G__81: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu
[10:28] <G__81> thanks slytherin so should i triage some bugs ?
[10:28] <G__81> from the list ?
[10:28] <slytherin> G__81: yes and if you know fixes of the bugs you can try submitting diff
[10:31] <G__81> slytherin, ok now i have doubt if you see in that list, the gedit component has 1 corresponding to it but when i click on it it says no bugs found
[10:32] <G__81> or should i click on 8.04 for example and look into the 8.04 bugs ?
[10:33] <slytherin> G__81: that is not component, it is a tag. I am not exactly aware of how tags work.
[10:36] <geser> I ignore tags as they are in the current implementation useless
[10:36] <Hobbsee> darn, exaile has made a new release.
[10:36] <RainCT> geser: there's https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy for 8.04 bugs, but those showing up there have usually already been triaged
[10:37] <G__81> Hi RainCT
[10:37]  * RainCT looks at Hobbsee the mighty op :P
[10:37] <G__81> if i want to fix a bug which is trivial to start off with , which should be the link in LP with respect to 8.04
[10:37] <Hobbsee> RainCT: muhahahaha!
[10:38] <RainCT> G__81: bugs should be fixed in Intrepid, not Hardy (unless tehy are critical or security related)
[10:39] <G__81> Oh so its only in 8.10 that i should focus on is it ?
[10:39] <G__81> so how do you people generally test the beta releases ? some kind of virtualization stuff ?
[10:40] <G__81> can i use qemu for it ?
[10:41] <RainCT> G__81: yes, especially when you start as Hardy (and already released distros in general) have more complicated procedures
[10:41] <G__81> RainCT, Ok so what do you suggest me ?
[10:41] <G__81> if i want to start off with ?
[10:42] <RainCT> (you can use qemu, kvm, virtualbox, a separate partition, whatever you want)
[10:42] <G__81> ok thats great
[10:42] <G__81> and have one question how does the karma value get increased ?
[10:42] <Hobbsee> by doing stuff with launchpad
[10:43] <wgrant> It's cached, so you'll only see it update daily.
[10:43] <RainCT> Hobbsee: lol, I had written exactly the same sentence :P
[10:43] <G__81> Hobbsee, since i am new is it like if i triage a bug does the karma value get increased?
[10:43] <RainCT> yes
[10:43] <wgrant> G__81: Yes.
[10:44] <Hobbsee> G__81: that's one optoin
[10:44] <G__81> Interesting !! whats the other one ?
[10:45] <RainCT> Solving questions on Launchpad Answers, commiting to bzr branches (well, not sure about this one, but creating a new branch gives points), writing/modifying specifications on LP, etc.
[10:46] <G__81> RainCT, Great i guess this is what fedora is lacking :) i am really happy to see this
[10:46] <G__81> i hope the Ubuntu team is friendly in answering my questions :) so that i get to learn things :) and help the ubuntu project
[10:47] <G__81> i have read through triaging too but there are no bugs to triage :(
[10:47] <G__81> i believe at this point
[10:47] <G__81> right ?
[10:47] <laga> there are :)
[10:48] <RainCT> G__81: http://tinyurl.com/triageubuntu
[10:48] <RainCT> try there
[10:48]  * G__81 initiates the 8.10 download 
[10:49] <G__81> RainCT, i selected the newest first option in that page but i get no bugs found
[10:49] <RainCT> oh, wrong link that gives no results xD
[10:50] <RainCT> let me start firefox, I have a working link there..
[10:51] <RainCT> G__81: http://tinyurl.com/ubuntu-triage
[10:55] <RainCT> G__81: If you'd like to get help with triaging, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugSquad/GettingInvolved. For bug fixing or packaging you can try if there's something on https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.tag=bitesize or else just look for something that annoys you
[10:56] <G__81> oh RainCT Thanks a lot
[10:56] <G__81> i did go through it and am doing it again
[10:56] <G__81> just trying to triage the first bug
[10:56] <G__81> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/31285
[10:56] <G__81> this is what i am trying to triage
[10:57] <G__81> RainCT, This does not show the version of the distro right ?
[10:57] <G__81> or are these for 8.10 ?
[10:57] <G__81> so thats implicit is it ?
[10:58] <Hobbsee> G__81: that particular bug willoccur on any version where a user has botched their own sources.list
[10:58] <RainCT> it's unknown what version they are (unless they were filed using some bug filling software, which then adds "DistroRelease: Ubuntu XX" to the description)
[10:58] <G__81> ok so shouldnt that info be part of the bug ?
[10:58] <RainCT> G__81: not if they filed it manually
[10:58] <G__81> so should i add a comment saying that that information is needed or something like that ?
[10:59]  * Hobbsee adds to that bug
[10:59] <G__81> its needed only if its filed manually right ? coz if its done automatically wont the software itself take the distro version ?
[10:59] <RainCT> G__81: no, the first thing is to check if the problem is reproducible on Intrepid
[11:02] <RainCT> G__81: and if you can't reproduce it ask for more information (including what release they use). if in the end it's fixed in Intrepid, mark it as fixed, if it isn't then add any missing information and mark it as confirmed
[11:02] <RainCT> G__81: but that's just rougly explained, the wiki has much more information
[11:02] <G__81> oh ok
[11:02] <RainCT> G__81: about this particular bug, I think hobbsee is looking at it
[11:03] <G__81> i thought i can open my Karma account :)
[11:03] <G__81> its 0 :)
[11:15] <RainCT> G__81: found a new bug? :)
[11:16]  * NCommander pokes asac 
[11:19] <slytherin> geser: As per discussion on #ubuntu-devel, something went wrong with importer in Debian. Whole archive is affected.
[11:20] <G__81> RainCT, I am trying to if you can help me out it would be really good
[11:20] <G__81> to start off with
[11:26] <RainCT> G__81: uhm.. there's for example bug #285739.. you can try to reproduce that one and if it's valid look for duplicates on LP, GNOME's Bug Tracker and if there aren't forward the bug to GNOME (file the bug there and include a link to LP) and add a link to it in LP using the "+ Also affects project"
[11:27] <RainCT> G__81: and there's bug #285720, where you could ask if running it from the terminal gives any output
[11:28] <RainCT> G__81: and let's better go to #ubuntu-bugs before someone screems :P
[11:28] <RainCT> *screams
[11:47] <orly_owl> Is Firefox going to have a EULA?
[11:49] <RainCT> orly_owl: I didn't really look much at it but iirc it's more of an informative page now (explaining that Fx is Free Software and saying that it uses Google and that you can disable that if you want)
[11:50] <RainCT> asac: btw, why does the "click here for info" bar hide if you close a tab?
[11:50] <orly_owl> Do you have to click "I agree"?
[11:51] <RainCT> orly_owl: no
[11:51] <orly_owl> OK.
[12:37] <homy> hello. I'm creating a file that defines a new mimetype. I don't see where I can specify the icon of files of that mime type and the associated application=?
[12:37] <homy> I looked in http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Specifications/AddingMIMETutor?action=show&redirect=Standards%2FAddingMIMETutor, but it doesn't say how to achieve that.
[12:41] <homy> persia, maybe you can help me again? I'm stuck :)
[12:47] <homy> gnomefreak, can you help me?
[12:47] <gnomefreak> homy: i dont know, can i?
[12:48] <gnomefreak> homy: ask and we shall see
[12:48] <homy> I created a new mime-type definition file, and it works (I mean, nautilus shows me the correct mime type). How do I specify the icon for files of that mimetype?
[12:48] <homy> I mean, in the definition file, not manually.
[12:49] <homy> I checked http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Specifications/AddingMIMETutor?action=show&redirect=Standards%2FAddingMIMETutor, but it doesn't talk about that.
[12:50] <homy> gnomefreak: can you help me?
[12:50] <gnomefreak> give me a minute im reading and talking to someone about an issue i working on but im reading your link
[12:51] <homy> gnomefreak: the link doesn't answer my question, thats the problem.
[12:52] <gnomefreak> homy: all you want is to add icon for it?
[12:53] <homy> gnomefreak: first, yes :) but not manually: later I want a .deb to install the new mime type + icon automatically.
[12:56] <gnomefreak> ok homy off hand i dont know how you would go about that
[12:58] <homy> gnomefreak: ok. Can you help me with associating the mime type with my program? I.e. If I double-click an appropriate file, it should be opened with my program?
[12:59] <gnomefreak> homy: that would depend on what you are using to open them. you can set a default for just about everything
[13:00] <homy> gnomefreak: If I double-click my file in nautilus/on the desktop, how do I make it open with my application?
[13:01] <gnomefreak> homy: right click "open with" you can set default but without searching through my $HOME i cant tell you. i use nautilus very little lately
[13:02] <homy> ok.
[13:07] <homy> Can somebody help me to set a specific mime type to open automatically with a programm (when opened in nautilus)?
[13:09] <slytherin> homy: when no one answers then there are 2 possibilities. 1. Those who know are not active in channel. 2. Those who are active don't know the answer.
[13:10] <homy> slytherin: where can i ask then?
[13:23] <james_w> woo, finally squished it
[13:49] <G__81> is it mandatory that a prospective contributor knows how to package stuff ?
[13:49] <orly_owl> probably
[13:50] <NCommander> G__81, yes.
[13:50] <NCommander> MOTU requires equivelent knowledge of a Debian Developer
[13:51] <G__81> NCommander, MOTU is the second level right. If i want to become a contributor i can get my Ubuntu Membership after the process mentioned there in the website right
[13:51] <G__81> ?
[13:51] <NCommander> G__81, well
[13:51] <G__81> thats the first step right ? Getting my ubuntu membership
[13:51] <NCommander> Not quite
[13:51] <NCommander> We have what's called Ubuntu Universe Contributor
[13:51] <NCommander> (UUC)
[13:51] <NCommander> It gives you membership when you gain that
[13:51] <G__81> Ok...
[13:52] <G__81> so if i need ubuntu membership, is it mandatory that i ve to package stuff ?
[13:52] <G__81> lets say i test ibex and give bug reports or test the bugs mentioned already and see whether those are valid and fix some ?
[13:53] <G__81> wont i be eligible for it ?
[13:53] <NCommander> G__81, nope
[13:53] <G__81> then ?
[13:53] <NCommander> G__81, membership isn't even needed for MOTUship. Membership just gives you an @ubuntu.com email, and the ability to post on Planet Ubuntu
[13:53] <NCommander> G__81, what you need is ubuntu-bugsquad
[13:54] <NCommander> G__81, which lets you set bugs to triaged and nominate bugs for release
[13:54] <G__81> Ok how do i get ubuntu membership
[13:54] <G__81> first
[13:54] <G__81> :)
[13:54] <NCommander> G__81, no, you need to earn membership via contributions
[13:54] <G__81> yeah exactly
[13:54] <G__81> so for that should i package things ?
[13:55] <G__81> or can i do bug triaging, testing and fixing
[13:55] <StevenK> That's one way.
[13:55] <G__81> is that enough
[13:55] <StevenK> Another way is bug triage, or translations
[13:56] <RainCT> G__81: Any "substantial contribution to Ubuntu" is good for membership
[13:57]  * NCommander could have probably gotten membership via rewriting REVU
[13:57] <NCommander> Oh
[13:57] <NCommander> RainCT, that reminds me
[13:57] <RainCT> G__81: so if you do loads of bug triaging you can indeed get a member that way, though perhaps it's easier to get it also doing packaging stuff
[13:57] <G__81> NCommander, you have the membership ?
[13:57] <G__81> Oh Ok i ll try to do both :
[13:57] <G__81> :)
[13:57] <NCommander> G__81, via Kubuntu Membership, and Ubuntu Universe COntributors
[13:58]  * NCommander has membership in more teams then should be legally allowed
[13:58] <G__81> I am installing Ibex and let me do some triaging and also some packaging
[13:58] <G__81> i ve not done packaging
[13:58]  * G__81 is nervous about packaging 
[13:58]  * StevenK counts
[13:58] <NCommander> IT's relatively hard to shoot yourself in the foot
[13:59] <StevenK> 18 direct, 30 direct + indirect
[13:59] <RainCT> G__81: my advise is that you first do some triaging so that you learn how Launchpad, etc. work and once you start to get bored at that have a look at packaging
[14:01] <cbx33> hey all
[14:01] <G__81> RainCT, yeah exactly
[14:02] <RainCT> hi cbx33 :)
[14:02] <cbx33> man anyone know if apache is ipv6 enabled ?
[14:02] <cbx33> Hi RainCT
[14:02] <cbx33> been having terrible troubles with it today :(
[14:02] <G__81> cbx33, if your linux has got IPv6 enabled then your apache should work
[14:03] <G__81> coz HTTP is an application level protocol
[14:03] <G__81> your routing L3 protocol should have that basically
[14:03] <cbx33> yeh that's what I thought
[14:03] <cbx33> I think there is possibly a bug
[14:03] <cbx33> Listen 80 should let it listen on ipv4 and 6
[14:03] <cbx33> but it's not
[14:03] <G__81> RainCT, i have installed 8.04 in Virtual Box and i am upgrading to 8.10 so with that i can do bug triaging right ?
[14:03] <cbx33> ssh and dns do
[14:03] <G__81> testing the bugs reported
[14:03] <G__81> right ?
[14:04] <RainCT> G__81: yea
[14:04] <G__81> RainCT, How about this mentoring, Can someone mentor me ?> :)
[14:06] <RainCT> G__81: I don't think there is a mentoring programe for bug triaging, but there are "Hug Days" from time to time where people meet in #ubuntu-bugs.. there was one 2 days ago, not sure when the next one is
[14:07] <G__81> 21st i believe
[14:07] <G__81> :) waiting for it but anyways i could start off on bug triaging without mentoring but generally i saw some mentoring programmes so was curious to know about it
[14:08] <RainCT> yes, but those are for packaging
[14:08] <cbx33> heh
[14:08] <cbx33> ahhh packaging, that's where the fun begins
[14:08] <porthose> G__81: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Mentoring
[14:11] <G__81> i really like these processes i guess these are the reasons why there are more contributors in Ubuntu when compared to fedora
[14:11] <G__81> i believe
[14:16] <G__81> when i installed Ubuntu some months back i signed the code of conduct and became Ubuntero and i generated the PGP keys and then after many months i installed ubuntu again yesterday since i had fedora these months. Now today i installed 5-a-day applet and i tried to use bzr login from the command line but i couldnt
[14:16] <G__81> how do i again generate the SSH keys
[14:16] <RainCT> G__81: ssh-keygen
[14:19] <G__81> how do i export this to LP
[14:19] <G__81> i ve done ssh-keygen
[14:19] <RainCT> G__81: https://launchpad.net/people/+me/+editsshkeys
[14:23] <porthose> G__81: https://help.launchpad.net/
[14:27] <G__81> i have subscribed to motu mailing list is that enough ?
[14:27] <G__81> i ve sent an introduction mail to the list too :)
[14:29] <RainCT> G__81: you may also want to join ubuntu-motu-mentors@
[14:30] <G__81> oh ok
[14:30] <G__81> thanks
[14:30] <G__81> now today i triaged one bug so what should i do with that 5 a day applet ?
[14:30] <G__81> am not able to use that
[14:32] <G__81> What should be the user name to be given with bzr launchpad-login ?
[14:32] <G__81> i use the email address to login into LP
[14:32] <G__81> should that be given ?
[14:33] <RainCT> your LP username, ie, that what's displayed after the ~ in the URL if you visit https://launchpad.net/+people/me
[14:33] <RainCT> * https://launchpad.net/people/+me
[14:34] <G__81> oh thanks too many things
[14:34] <G__81> to learn :)
[14:40] <G__81> am upgrading to 8.10 now
[14:40] <G__81> in my Virtual Box partition
[16:27] <MetaMorfoziS> Hi all. Does anybody can anybody tell me the reason that why sun-java6-plugin depends on firefox3.0?
[16:27] <MetaMorfoziS> anybody -
[16:29] <geser> MetaMorfoziS: why should a java plugin for firefox (and other mozilla based browsers) not depend on it?
[16:29] <MetaMorfoziS> opera and konqueror for example uses the same
[16:30] <MetaMorfoziS> and what if i have firefox not from repos?
[16:30] <laga> odd, i seem to have two versions of that package. one is meta package which depends on all browsers, the other one doesn't
[16:31] <MetaMorfoziS> how can i install the other?
[16:32] <geser> if you work outside the package management system (installing firefox on your own) you are on your own
[16:32] <MetaMorfoziS> oh
[16:32] <MetaMorfoziS> i get it
[16:32] <MetaMorfoziS> geser > that's not a good aproach, imho.
[16:33] <MetaMorfoziS> the repos not always contains every programs, or the version us need
[16:33] <geser> MetaMorfoziS: how should we know if you've the required version installed or not?
[16:33] <MetaMorfoziS> geser > easy, don't make forward dependencies
[16:34] <MetaMorfoziS> a lot of program can be the user of the java plugin, that's all...
[16:34] <MetaMorfoziS> if i need java plugin, nobody says i need firefox3 from the repos
[16:34] <MetaMorfoziS> but i don't want to reform ubuntu, i just came here to get the reason of this stuff...
[16:37] <RainCT> MetaMorfoziS: on Intrepid it desn't depend on firefox
[16:37] <geser> MetaMorfoziS: if you know that the java plugin also works with other packages please file a bug
[16:37] <RainCT> firefox | firefox-2 | iceweasel | mozilla-firefox | iceape-browser | mozilla-browser | epiphany-gecko | epiphany-webkit | epiphany-browser | galeon | midbrowser | xulrunner
[16:38] <MetaMorfoziS> as laga said, there are another version of that metapkg, i have installed that and the problem looks solved
[16:38] <geser> laga: both are coming from the ubuntu archive?
[16:38] <MetaMorfoziS> geser > then every browser that can handle java will be installed with sun-java6-plugin ?
[16:40] <RainCT> MetaMorfoziS: no, the any of them will be enough
[16:40] <RainCT> s/the//
[16:40] <laga> geser: no clue. ;)
[16:42] <G__81> hi RainCT I am almost done with Ibex upgrade in VBox instance. I hope it starts properly and i start off with my work :)
[16:42] <RainCT> geser: that one in hardy depends on xulrunner-1.9, the one in hardy-updates and in intrepid alternatively depends on the list I pasted above
[17:23] <antpeter> Hi All!
[17:24] <antpeter> I have a question about uploading updated package
[17:25] <geser> !ask
[17:26] <antpeter> I've build an updatetd package of nmap (nmap-4.76). Where to upload it?
[17:26] <rocco> hey all
[17:26] <rocco> antpeter, awesome, one that actually works with ipv6
[17:26] <rocco> :)
[17:28] <antpeter> !ask How to upload an updated nmap-4.76?
[17:28] <antpeter> !ask
[17:29] <antpeter> How to upload to REVU?
[17:30] <cbx33> hey all
[17:30] <sebner> !revu | antpeter
[17:31] <cbx33> so.....if there is a question that #ubuntu can't answer where do people go :p
[17:33] <antpeter> !help
[17:33] <antpeter> !motu
[17:38] <RainCT> antpeter: Hi. Go to http://revu.ubuntuwire.com and log in
[17:39] <RainCT> antpeter: after that, if you have a __source.changes file for that package you can just upload it doing "dput revu <filename>"
[17:39] <RainCT> cbx33: still trying to get apache working with IPv6?
[17:39] <nhandler> antpeter: You can also access ubottu's factoids through /msg
[17:39] <cbx33> yeh
[17:39] <cbx33> and failing
[17:39] <RainCT> cbx33: have you tried in #ubuntu-server?
[17:40] <cbx33> firefox doesn't like ::1 as an address either
[17:40] <cbx33> no
[17:40] <cbx33> lemme try
[17:40] <Laney> isn't it [::1
[17:40] <antpeter> dput revu nmap_4.76-0ubuntu1_i386.changes
[17:40] <antpeter> Can't open /home/petr/nmap/nmap_4.76-0ubuntu1_i386.changes
[17:41] <antpeter> ???
[17:41] <cbx33> Laney, nope
[17:41] <Laney> [::1], even
[17:41] <Laney> bah, /me shrugs
[17:41] <cbx33> ahh that's is
[17:41] <cbx33> : think
[17:41] <cbx33> I
[17:42] <cbx33> still fails
[17:42] <RainCT> here it works with [::1]
[17:42] <cbx33> apache works?
[17:42] <RainCT> yep
[17:42] <cbx33> can you paste me netstat -ltu
[17:43] <RainCT> cbx33: http://paste.ubuntu.com/59753/
[17:43] <cbx33> tcp6       0      0 [::]:www                [::]:*                  LISTEN
[17:43] <cbx33> seei don't have that
[17:43] <cbx33> what version of ubuntu?
[17:43]  * RainCT is on Intrepid
[17:43] <cbx33> ahhh
[17:44] <cbx33> maybe that's why
[17:44] <sebner> RainCT: and running?
[17:44] <RainCT> cbx33: there's some IPv6 stuff in /etc/apache2, if you want I can mail you the folder
[17:44] <cbx33> yes please
[17:45] <RainCT> sebner: Well, GNOME still doesn't start. But as I use Openbox I don't really mind
[17:45] <cbx33> when's release?
[17:45] <RainCT> cbx33: 30th
[17:45] <cbx33> RainCT, silentkeystroke@googlemail.com
[17:45] <sebner> RainCT: rofl. that's why I use unstable stuff as default. When you start with it everything is running. In the end everything is b0rken but still running. so I won compared to you :P
[17:46] <cbx33> heheh
[17:47] <RainCT> lol
[17:47] <cbx33> ty
[17:47] <RainCT> cbx33: Sent. Note that httpd.conf and sites-available/default have custom modifications.
[17:48] <cbx33> where di yo usee ipv6 stuff?
[17:49] <RainCT> I don't, it comes by default :)
 cbx33: there's some IPv6 stuff in /etc/apache2, if you want I can mail you the folder
[17:49] <RainCT> oh
[17:49] <RainCT> wait, now I don't see it
[17:50] <cbx33> heheh
[17:50] <RainCT> damn, seems like I dreamed it LOL
[17:50] <cbx33> oh RainCT !!
[17:50] <cbx33> :p
[17:51] <RainCT> Heh, no, it's the SSL stuff then.. I also saw IPv6 stuff somewhere, but I don't remember where o.O
[17:51] <cbx33> heheh
[17:51] <cbx33> i see an allow from ::1
[17:51] <cbx33> this is annoying
[17:54] <cbx33> funny RainCT it doesn't show apache running on ipv4 on your machine
[18:06] <antpeter> I have a problem with uploading to REVU. The dput crashed while I trying to upload. See: http://paste.ubuntu.com/59760
[18:22] <RainCT> if he comes back, that's bug #183624
[18:24] <antpeter> Thanks
[18:29] <antpeter> Is it possible to upload by another method?
[18:30] <RainCT> antpeter: not that I know off, but I've just realised that you don't want to upload it to revu anyway :P
[18:30] <RainCT> antpeter: updates are handled on Launchpad, not REVU
[18:30] <RainCT> antpeter: so just file a bug, upload the .diff.gz and include a link to the .tar.gz on upstream's pag
[18:30] <RainCT> +e
[18:33] <antpeter> RainCT: thank you
[18:34] <RainCT> np
[18:40] <antpeter> RainCT: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nmap/+bug/268996 is it right?
[18:40] <nhandler> antpeter: Why is it marked Fix committed?
[18:41] <antpeter> I don't know why, I'm newb.
[18:41] <RainCT> nhandler: "Fix Commited" means "already uploaded to Ubuntu"
[18:42] <RainCT> nhandler: "Some changes in debian/ dir" isn't a good changelog entry, you have to explain all the changes you've done and when it ins't obvious also why
[18:42] <RainCT> err
[18:42] <RainCT> ^antpeter
[18:42] <nhandler> RainCT: I know what fix commited means. But look at the bug report. Nothing has been uploaded or committed to a vcs
[18:43] <RainCT> nhandler: yes, that was ment for antpeter. sorry
[18:43] <nhandler> Ok
[18:44] <RainCT> antpeter: further note that this won't be looked at after until Intrepid has been released
[18:45] <antpeter> May be  I try to edit changelog and then reupload the new .diff.gz?
[18:45] <RainCT> (It's not allowed to get new versions -unless for some special cases- into released versions -ie, Hardy-, and for Intrepid it's already too late)
[18:45] <RainCT> (too)
[18:46] <RainCT> antpeter: yes, please do this
[21:03]  * jdong notices how portdb -Fu is possibly the most aptly named command on FreeBSD...
[22:22] <ajmitch> morning
[22:23] <directhex> you mean evening! silly people in silly simezones... *grumble*
[22:23] <tuxmaniac> ajmitch: morning! But I havent yet gone to sleep. Its still Sunday Evening :D
[22:25] <geser> Hi ajmitch
[22:29] <ajmitch> some of us have already started at work for the week
[22:30] <geser> lucky you :)
[22:30] <ajmitch> yes, quite... :)
[23:03] <lfaraone> Hey, where do yelp docs exepct to be placed in the FS?
[23:06] <RainCT> lfaraone: /usr/share/gnome/help/
[23:13] <lfaraone> RainCT: ok, what is the subdir C? /usr/share/gnome/help/*/C
[23:13] <lfaraone> RainCT: (cause yelp doesn't seem to like it when I put it in there normally
[23:16] <RainCT> lfaraone: I don't know, but I guess you have to register the files with yelp or something
[23:18] <lfaraone> RainCT: hrm...