[00:08] <SilentKiller> Hello
[00:09] <SilentKiller> Is there any way to install alternate xubuntu 8.10 from inside the regular xubuntu 8.04.1?
[00:09] <SilentKiller> I dont have another blank cd that I know of..
[00:10] <SilentKiller> Back.. Did anyone answer?
[00:21] <df--> could boot it on a USB stick instead of a CD SilentKiller
[00:21] <df--> pretty sure it's possible, anyway
[00:23] <SilentKiller> hmm
[00:28] <nolochemical> hey :D
[00:29] <nolochemical> greetings
[00:29] <nolochemical> ..just wondering how someone would change L2 cache configuration..
[00:31] <nolochemical> any one home ?
[00:36] <df--> I am, but with no idea what you're referring to nolochemical :P If it isn't a xubuntu specific question you might try the main channel (#ubuntu). More people around there
[00:50] <nolochemical> df--: thanks for the heads up heading over there now.. :)
[01:17] <SilentKiller> Found a cd :)
[01:17] <SilentKiller> Ok so I burned xubuntu 8.10 alternative cd..
[01:17] <SilentKiller> Using the burning program thats already installed on xubuntu..
[01:17] <SilentKiller> So now when I start up from cd.. I get a black screen with..
[01:18] <SilentKiller> boot:
[01:18] <SilentKiller> Up in the top left corner..
[01:22] <SilentKiller> Anyone know what to do?
[01:30] <SilentKiller> :)
[01:30] <SilentKiller> :(*
[01:34] <SilentKiller> Anyone?
[01:52] <SilentKiller> Can anyone help me?
[02:18] <SilentKiller> :)
[02:18] <SilentKiller> :(((
[02:18] <SilentKiller> :(
[02:39] <nraic> Does anyone know that name of that app people use in gnome for monitoring cpu, network etc. It sits on the task bar usually has 4 boxes
[02:43] <wormsxulla> gkrellm ?
[02:45] <wormsxulla> oh. in the task bar... then not gkrellm
[02:48] <nraic> http://www.gnome.org/~federico/misc/monitor-labels.png
[02:49] <nraic> Its in the bottom task bar in that screen shot
[02:55] <acalbaza> anyone able to play presentations on parleys.com using xubuntu and ff3.0.3?  mine freeze after 2-3 seconds.... wondering if its a flex thing.
[02:56] <acalbaza> join #ubuntu
[02:56] <acalbaza> oops
[04:36] <william56> hey everyone. i was just going to install xubuntu, and selecting 'install' brought me to a command prompt labelled (initramfs); anyone care to provide me with info on what i should read or do next?
[04:38] <william56> i can't seem to find any information on installing xubuntu
[04:40] <ball> is it practical to build Xubuntu on an Ubuntu machine and then install it over the top of the existing OS?
[04:40] <ball> (I have an Ubuntu machine here with no optical drive)
[04:45]  * ball waves to emma_
[04:58] <wormsxulla> hello. how can i stop the network manager from trying to connect to a network? i tried man network-manager, but found no manual
[05:02] <william56> anyone know how to read through logs from the console? vim and nano don't seem to be accessible
[05:07] <ball> william56 cat foo|less ?
[05:07] <william56> thanks
[05:08] <ball> you're welcome
[07:44] <SuperMario1776> Hello. I deleted Panel 2 from my new Xubuntu installation thinking it was workspace 2. How can I restore it?
[07:45] <SuperMario1776> The panel at the bottom of this image http://www.thecodingstudio.com/opensource/linux/screenshots/scaled/Xubuntu%208.04%20Hardy%20Heron%20LTS/7.gif
[07:54] <SuperMario1776> nm, got it
[09:07] <ciapsadm> Hi, what you get cable from the network card you get back is not going, just after the restart give.
[09:14] <knome> eehh... what?
[09:20] <nikolam> ciapsadm, go to the system>network>unlock> and set dns and ip adress for your network card
[09:26] <ciapsadm> OK
[09:38] <Woo> Do you guys have an FTP server that works for Xubuntu that is easy to install and understand? I have tried VSFTPD and GPROFTPD.
[09:51] <ciapsadm> How do when I get on my Linux to automatically start an application?
[09:51] <ciapsadm> For exemple: pidgin
[09:52] <knome> ciapsadm, when logging out/etc. save a session with pidgin open
[09:52] <knome> ciapsadm, there's a checkbox in the shutdown dialog
[09:53] <knome> Woo, i use proftpd and it's quite straightforward
[09:54] <floating> other possibility is to add a command to start it up with autostarted applications
[09:55] <floating> but actually my pidgin starts automatically with each session as knome described
[09:55] <floating> that way*
[09:57] <ciapsadm> floating: How do I add to the autostart?
[09:58] <knome> ciapsadm, settins>settings manager>autostarted apps
[10:02] <ciapsadm> And in order that write to add Pidgin?
[10:02] <ciapsadm> Write pidgin?
[10:03] <Woo> Knome: Is that the same I have? First it was whining that I did not have a certificate, but I had never enabled any SSL/whatever things.
[10:03] <knome> Woo, i think gproftpd is different from proftpd
[10:05] <Woo> So... it is less g? ^^
[10:08] <knome> don't know
[10:08] <ciapsadm> Xchat use and do not know how to do I automatically saved channels.
[10:09] <ciapsadm> Every time I come in Xchat have to write / server and / join # xubuntu
[10:10] <knome> ciapsadm, try asking #xchat
[10:10] <ciapsadm> How do you get in my program automatically on the server and channel?
[10:10] <Woo> " sudo apt-get install vsftpd" how do i reverse this, and uninstall it?
[10:10] <knome> Woo, sudo apt-get remove vsftpd
[10:11] <TheSheep> sudo apt-get --purge remove vsftpd
[10:11] <ciapsadm> Ok
[10:11] <knome> Woo, use TheSheep one ^
[10:11] <knome> TheSheep, hello sir
[10:11] <Woo> Thank you.
[10:12] <ciapsadm> I blocked a program
[10:12] <ciapsadm> How do you get?
[10:12] <knome> what?
[10:13] <ciapsadm> Amarok
[10:13] <knome> ciapsadm, use synaptic to install?
[10:13] <ciapsadm> No
[10:13] <ciapsadm> Apt-get
[10:13] <knome> ciapsadm, sudo apt-get install amarok ?
[10:13] <ciapsadm> No
[10:14] <ciapsadm> I blocked so amarok.
[10:14] <ciapsadm> I do not want to install it, I want to get out of the program.
[10:15] <knome> ciapsadm, right-click the amarok systray icon and select quit.
[10:15] <TheSheep> alt+ctrl+esc and then click on the program's window
[10:17] <Woo> Hey that is a nice thing in Linux... It killed the process that was running before it uninstalled it. I expected problems with it. :-)
[10:17] <floating> i hate linux sometimes
[10:18] <floating> after i have used it for awhile the love start to fade
[10:18] <floating> and i dont pay attention to it
[10:18] <floating> and some programs like firefox and one java program i use a lot are slower
[10:21] <TheSheep> floating: slower than what?
[10:21] <ciapsadm> I pressed Ctrl + Alt + esc and now I no longer panels
[10:21] <floating> on xubuntu that on windows xp
[10:21] <floating> ciap lol
[10:21] <knome> ciapsadm, alt+f2 > xfce4-panel
[10:22] <ciapsadm> Not working
[10:23] <ciapsadm> Says canot open display
[10:27] <nikolam> ciapsadm, is your desktop working?
[10:27] <nikolam> right-click on it and desktop settings
[10:28] <nikolam> tehn behavior tab and select desktop menu on right click
[10:28] <nikolam> then on right click open terminal from accesories
[10:29] <nikolam> then run xfce4-panel &
[10:39] <floating> tell me something interesting i could do with linux
[10:39] <Woo> Really learn your password
[10:40] <Woo> or send the signals from your mouse to your hard drive
[10:40] <floating> i want to discover something new
[10:40] <knome> floating, play bastet
[10:46] <ciapsadm> Not working click right
[10:48] <floating> puuh
[10:48] <ciapsadm> Now go, but if you give it everything I restart occurs
[10:49] <ciapsadm> I now appears panel, but I do not appear icons
[10:50] <ciapsadm> What to do?
[11:07] <ciapsadm> I gave everything and restart not working.
[11:08] <TheSheep> ciapsadm: do you have free space on your disk?
[11:08] <ciapsadm> So I appear.
[11:08] <ciapsadm> Yes
[11:09] <ciapsadm> Since I gave Ctrl + Alt + esc to ruin
[11:09] <Woo> Right, I will try to install proftpd now. Does it have a GUI I can control it with?
[11:10] <ciapsadm> If you give me xfce4 panel appears panels, but not programs.
[11:10] <knome> Woo, no... ;)
[11:10] <knome> ciapsadm, yes, that's the way it is supposed to work.
[11:11] <Woo> Ok, can I control it with something else?
[11:11] <knome> Woo, config files
[11:11] <knome> Woo, you are asked some basic info at installation
[11:11] <Woo> Even adding users?
[11:12] <Woo> Because all I want is something that lets me log in, upload and delete files so I can back up my documents from my laptop. I've spent hours with this. =/
[11:12] <knome> Woo, proftpd uses xubuntu users - you just give them permission or not to use ftp
[11:12] <Woo> Oh, does it?
[11:13] <knome> yes
[11:13] <knome> proftpd might be a bit overkill for your usecase though
[11:13] <knome> do you have a lot to transfer?
[11:13] <TheSheep> ciapsadm: does it work when you create a new user?
[11:14] <ciapsadm> TheSheep: I do not know
[11:15] <ciapsadm> Well now, and what should I do?
[11:15] <ciapsadm> Back to defend my desktop.
[11:16] <Woo> No, I have a 1,9GB disk I wanted to use for this. ^^
[11:16] <Woo> What would you recomend?
[11:17] <ciapsadm> I do not know
[11:17] <TheSheep> ciapsadm: alt+f2 and type 'xfdesktop'
[11:19] <ciapsadm> So go see desktopu
[11:19] <ciapsadm> But if you give restart no longer works: (
[11:22] <ciapsadm> If write-in terminal xfce4 panel and xfdesktop is still on track, unless removed from the terminal again not working
[11:30] <TheSheep> ciapsadm: try deleting your saed session from ~/.cache/sessions/
[11:31] <TheSheep> ciapsadm: just delete all files from that directory
[11:32] <knome> Woo, you might try ssh. the transfer is slower because of the encryption, but set up is easier
[11:32] <ciapsadm> Yes, I xfdesktop to add applications to start and we've added xfce4-panel and now everything goes well, that at first
[11:34] <Woo> Knome: Alright, is it anything like FTP? What software would you recomend for it? And proftpd would not install: http://bildr.no/view/273104.
[11:35] <knome> !ssh
[11:36] <knome> hmm...
[11:36] <knome> !ftp
[11:36] <knome> !ftpd
[11:47] <ciapsadm> Thank you very much, now go
[11:48] <ciapsadm> Without adding to autostarted
[11:48] <ciapsadm> I deleted those now in session and go;)
[12:21] <drowner> hello everyone
[12:21] <drowner> Is there anyone here to help me?
[12:22] <ciapsadm> Tell problem
[12:23] <ciapsadm> Can you help me
[12:23] <drowner> Ok
[12:23] <drowner> you want me to tell the problem?
[12:24] <drowner> I have a gnome default setup, but i prefer the xfce window manager. However, when i select a session that is not gnome (same thing happened with flux) i get booted out after about 30-60 mins. Its weird. How can I troubleshoot? Dmesg? Anything i should search for?
[12:44] <venome> booted out = exactly?
[12:45] <venome> drowner: in what way does it happen?
[12:45] <drowner> everything stops
[12:45] <drowner> and, its back to log in
[12:45] <drowner> so, the kernel doesn't stop - just the WM, it seems
[12:46] <venome> that sounds like the xserver gets an error and crashes
[12:46] <venome> try to look thru /var/log/Xorg*
[12:49] <drowner> cool
[12:49] <drowner> i'm in xfce now
[12:49] <drowner> so, if it happens, goodbye, and thanks for all the fish :D
[12:50] <drowner> i'll have a squizz there if i get booted again
[12:51] <venome> btw. try to edit the scripts that starts your session, and make it write the errors to file
[12:52] <drowner> good idea
[12:52] <drowner> lets say i wanted to do that
[12:52] <drowner> how would i do that ;) ?
[12:53] <venome> the scripts are located in /usr/share/xsessions/
[12:53] <venome> your one would likely be xfce.desktop
[12:53] <venome> there is an exec part in that file
[12:54] <drowner> OK
[12:54] <venome> that is the script that is run when you start the session
[12:54] <venome> edit that one
[12:54] <venome> (like edit the target script)
[12:54] <drowner> yeah
[12:54] <drowner> thanks
[12:54] <venome> no problem :)
[12:55] <drowner> of course
[12:55] <drowner> now its not happening
[12:56] <venome> yea, that's quite usual :)
[12:56] <drowner> unreproducable errors
[12:57] <drowner> damn you!
[13:01] <Woo> !ftpc
[13:01] <Woo> !ftp
[13:01] <Woo> !lifeuniverseeverything
[13:02] <Woo> !ftpd
[13:10] <BlueFriday> Trying to learn Linux atm, I havent been this confused in a long time
[13:10] <drowner> BlueFriday: Any particular problems someone can help you with
[13:11] <BlueFriday> It's just general stuff really. For example, I'm used to windows with installed programs ending up in C:\Program Files\ProgramName
[13:11] <BlueFriday> In linux, do the files get split into all the different folders or how does it work?
[13:12] <knome> BlueFriday, basically yes, binaries are most of the time in /usr/bin or /bin
[13:13] <knome> BlueFriday, but you don't have to worry about file locations in linux once software is installed - the package manager keeps track of the files, that's synaptic (apt) in xubuntu
[13:13] <knome> BlueFriday, and you usually can call the binaries from anywhere
[13:13] <BlueFriday> alright
[13:14] <DFlame> think of Synaptic Package Manager as Add/Remove programs, except better :)
[13:14] <BlueFriday> Yeah I installed irssi, xchat and some other stuff
[13:14] <BlueFriday> seems easy enough
[13:15] <drowner> debian is hot.
[13:17] <BlueFriday> So much to read up on, seems really nice though
[13:22] <drowner> it will come
[13:22] <drowner> just use it
[13:22] <drowner> and it will come
[13:22] <drowner> i mean, it hasn't to me
[13:22] <drowner> but i assume it will
[13:32] <BlueFriday> experimenting a bit. When instructions say that i should write PREFIX/bin/apachectl -k start, what does 'prefix' mean?
[13:35] <drowner> do you know where apachectl is?
[13:36] <BlueFriday> No idea tbh, is there a way to check? I just installed through synaptic
[13:36] <BlueFriday> (sorry for the stupid questions :F)
[13:37] <drowner> its proabably in either /bin/
[13:37] <drowner> or /usr/bin
[13:38] <drowner> dude, i don't even know what i'm talking about
[13:38] <drowner> those instructions - are they just asking you to start a program a certain way?
[13:38] <BlueFriday> pretty much
[13:39] <drowner> have you tried just saying 'apachectl -k start'
[13:39] <drowner> you don't usually have to put the /usr/bin in there
[13:39] <drowner> when you type a program, if its in bin or /usr/bin (which it will be) it will just run
[13:40] <drowner> wherever you are
[13:40] <TheSheep> if you have apache installed, it is started automatically at boot
[13:40] <DFlame> ^indeed. I keep a photo album on a small server upstairs. Can view the pics via the Wii on the big TV :)
[13:40] <BlueFriday> ah yes, "It Works"
[13:42] <BlueFriday> I'm a bit confused though. What's the difference between /usr/bin/, /usr/local/bin and /bin/?
[13:44] <BlueFriday> actually, nevermind, I'll stop pestering you guys and I'll use the power of google instead
[13:47] <DFlame> you'll get better answers in #ubuntu for general questions. More people hang around there, BlueFriday
[13:48] <BlueFriday> alright, thanks
[13:48] <DFlame> Xubuntu specific stuff like XFCE etc tend to be better answered here
[13:49] <DFlame> and have fun learning. It's both frustrating and enjoyable ;)
[13:51] <BlueFriday> yeah :)
[14:39] <vidd> Odd-rationale, PM me when you get up?
[14:43] <ciapsadm> What program to use the web?
[14:43] <ciapsadm> And to be god
[14:44] <ciapsadm> 	
[14:44] <ciapsadm> I use midori
[14:46] <vidd> ciapsadm, ?
[14:46] <ciapsadm> What program to use the web?
[14:46] <ciapsadm> Firefox, Midori...etc
[14:47] <TheSheep> firefox is pretty much the standard, although it's very heavy, epiphany is lighter and simpler, midori is not finished yet
[14:47] <vidd> default in x/ubuntu is firefox
[14:47] <TheSheep> there is also opera
[14:48] <knome> and lynx
[14:48] <charlie-tca> dillo, too
[14:49] <TheSheep> w3m
[14:50] <vidd> ciapsadm, plus....browsing is not the only thing you do with the web....
[14:50]  * charlie-tca thinks too many choices
[14:50] <vidd> those were just a small sampling of browsers available
[14:51] <vidd> then there is email, chat clients, bittorrents....etc!
[15:12] <ciapsadm> How do you lock your desktop?
[15:13] <Odd-rationale> ciapsadm: ctrl+alt+del i think is the default...
[15:13] <Odd-rationale> ciapsadm: you have to have xlock, xscreensaver, or gnome-screensaver for it to work though...
[15:19] <ciapsadm> Did not find the package xlock
[15:20] <vidd> ciapsadm, xlockmore
[15:20] <vidd> or xlockmore-gl
[15:22] <ciapsadm> Ok, now go
[15:22] <ciapsadm> ;)
[15:41] <ciapsadm> I deleted Firefox, but everything I have in the computer.
[15:41] <ciapsadm> I used the command sudo apt-get purge firefox
[15:42] <ciapsadm> And was not delete
[15:42] <vidd> ciapsadm, sudo apt-get remove --purge [app]
[15:45] <ciapsadm> Not go :(
[15:45] <vidd> did you replace [app] with the application you wissh to remove?
[15:47] <ciapsadm> Yes
[15:48] <vidd> did it claim to remove the meta-package firefox?
[15:48] <ciapsadm> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[15:48] <vidd> so ...close whatever application is using it (like synaptic)
[15:50] <vidd> did you even bother to read what the error said?
[15:50] <ciapsadm> No
[15:50] <vidd> i can tell
[15:50] <ciapsadm> I need a iceweasel
[15:50] <ciapsadm> And not go sudo apt-get install iceweasel
[15:52] <vidd> that is because iceweasel is not in the repos
[15:52] <vidd> you will need to find the .deb for it and download it
[15:55] <ciapsadm> And how shall. Deb?
[15:55] <ciapsadm> On www.geticeweasel.org not find
[15:56] <vidd> ciapsadm, read this http://www.debianadmin.com/install-iceweasel-web-browser-in-debian-and-ubuntu.html
[15:56] <vidd> ALL of it
[15:57] <vidd> where it says "#wget...." it means "run wget as root"
[15:57] <vidd> what that means to you is replace "#" with "sudo "
[15:58] <ciapsadm> Ok
[15:59] <vidd> ciapsadm, whenever you read instructions, "#" means "as root" and "$" means "as unprivleged user"
[15:59] <vidd> to run something as root in ubuntu, you use "sudo [command]"
[16:00] <knome> vidd, there was an ubuntu tutorial later on that page anyway :P
[16:01] <vidd> knome, thats why i told hime to read it ALL
[16:01] <vidd> =]
[16:01] <knome> yes :P
[16:01] <knome> but that does explaining the # and $ unnecessary
[16:01] <knome> uh
[16:01] <vidd> but i dont really expect him to
[16:01] <knome> he should learn to read everything
[16:02] <vidd> pfft....he should learn to read
[16:02] <knome> this way you'll end taking him to shower and telling him where the soap is and how to use it
[16:02] <vidd> he got an error b4 that dpkg was in use
[16:02] <knome> and you DON'T want that
[16:02] <knome> yes.
[16:02] <knome> we shouldn't give obvious user support...
[16:03] <knome> but tell them to read properly and try to learn things by themselves
[16:03] <vidd> yesterday i told him i wasnt going to go to his house and install his graphics card for him
[16:03] <knome> yes ;)
[16:03] <knome> exactly
[16:03] <knome> it's better to teach users to understand what is going on
[16:04] <knome> rather than just rushing out commands for them
[16:04] <knome> well usually at least.
[16:04] <ciapsadm> ciapsadm@Ciapsa:~$ sudo dpkg -i iceweasel_1.5.0.8pre-2.deb
[16:04] <ciapsadm> dpkg: cu privire la iceweasel_1.5.0.8pre-2.deb conținând iceweasel:
[16:04] <ciapsadm>  hunspell-en-us în conflict cu iceweasel (<< 2.0.0.3-2)
[16:04] <ciapsadm>   iceweasel (versiunea 1.5.0.8pre-2) este pe cale să fie instalat.
[16:04] <ciapsadm> dpkg: eroare la procesarea iceweasel_1.5.0.8pre-2.deb (--install):
[16:04] <ciapsadm>  conflict între pachete - nu se instalează iceweasel
[16:04] <ciapsadm> Erori întâlnite în timpul prelucrării:
[16:04] <ciapsadm>  iceweasel_1.5.0.8pre-2.deb
[16:04] <ciapsadm> ciapsadm@Ciapsa:~$ iceweasel
[16:04] <ciapsadm> bash: iceweasel: command not found
[16:04] <ciapsadm> Block minodori and not paste to pastebin.ca
[16:04] <vidd> !past | ciapsadm
[16:04] <vidd> !paste | ciapsadm
[16:04] <knome> ciapsadm, did you read the output dpkg gave you?
[16:05] <bassboi> goddamn it, ktorrent is messing with me. at first it tells me theres 4 hours left... then i have to logout and back in cuz of an error, and it's done... i know it can't be true so i remove it, but keep the data, and reload the .torrent, and it's starting over.
[16:05] <mib_l33k> try 7 : http://l33k.wordpress.com/ Xubuntu based distro
[16:05] <vinnl> !swear | bassboi
[16:05] <vinnl> Too bad :P
[16:05] <bassboi> lol
[16:05] <charlie-tca> !language
[16:05] <vinnl> Ah ^.^
[16:05] <knome> mib_l33k, this is not an advertising (tv) channel
[16:06] <bassboi> !language | vinnl
[16:06] <bassboi> LoL
[16:06] <bassboi> smart bot
[16:06] <vinnl> Heh, nice
[16:06] <mib_l33k> sry
[16:06]  * charlie-tca nods
[16:06] <knome> calm down people, plese.
[16:07] <mib_l33k> anyone knows the BeOS Tracker ?
[16:07] <vidd> mib_l33k, what about it?
[16:07] <mib_l33k> it had a nice right click context menu
[16:08] <ciapsadm> I read and I give erroare when I do what I have read
[16:08] <mib_l33k> enabled you to browse through your filesystem very easily
[16:08] <mib_l33k> I would like to something like this in Thunar too
[16:09] <mib_l33k> *to see
[16:09] <vidd> ciapsadm, can you translate the error you got into english then?
[16:10] <vidd> i believe the error is saying you have a version conflict...but i only speak/read english
[16:11] <ciapsadm> Errors were encountered while processing: iceweasel_1.5.0.8pre-2.deb
[16:11] <vidd> ok...
[16:11] <vidd> you need to get a more up-to date version
[16:12] <vidd> methinks the latest version is 3.[something]
[16:13] <ciapsadm> What should I do?
[16:20] <vidd> ciapsadm, http://packages.debian.org/stable/web/iceweasel
[16:23] <ciapsadm> Why a lion there, I find iceweasel
[16:25] <ciapsadm> Here: Download iceweasel
[16:25] <ciapsadm> Can not download
[16:26] <vidd> which link did you click?
[16:26] <ciapsadm> Yes
[16:26] <vidd> ??
[16:27] <ciapsadm> I gave click
[16:27] <vidd> there are 11 different packages to choose from, based on what achetecure you are using....
[16:27] <vidd> wich one did you click?
[16:30] <ciapsadm> Yes
[16:30] <ciapsadm> http://http.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/a/aptitude/aptitude_0.4.4-4_i386.deb
[16:30] <ciapsadm> And not find download
[16:31] <knome> ciapsadm, why are you downloading aptitude ?!
[16:32] <vidd> knome, because he cant follow instructions or read
[16:32] <knome> ciapsadm, isn't there anybody who can help you at #ubuntu-ro ?
[16:34] <vidd> ciapsadm, you chose i386 on the http://packages.debian.org/stable/web/iceweasel page
[16:35] <vidd> that brings you to http://packages.debian.org/etch/i386/iceweasel/download
[16:35] <vidd> right?
[16:39] <ciapsadm> Yes
[16:39] <vidd> then what did you click on?
[16:42] <vidd> ciapsadm, then what did you click on?
[16:42] <ciapsadm> Yes
[16:42] <vinnl> ciapsadm, I'd really give it a try in #ubuntu-ro if I were you
[16:42] <vidd> or are you just opening the pages as i get them and not bothering to read what the pages say?
[16:42] <ciapsadm> Ok
[16:44] <BlueFriday> how much performance do I lost running xubuntu through vmware btw
[16:44] <BlueFriday> *lose
[16:49] <knome> BlueFriday, that's not xubuntu specific
[16:50] <BlueFriday> indeed
[16:50] <vinnl> I suppose that would depend on how you configure VMWare
[16:50] <vinnl> But you're probably best off in, say, #vmware
[18:03] <RandyboY> I have a ubuntu machine here which earlier was xubuntu, what do i do to revert to xubuntu and remove all of the ubuntuthings installed with the ubuntu when i installedit?
[18:04] <vidd> RandyboY, HOW did you install ubuntu over xubuntu?
[18:05] <RandyboY> apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[18:05] <vidd> then sudo apt-get remove --purge ubuntu-desktop && sudo apt-get autoremove --purge
[18:06] <vidd> this SHOULD get rid of all the extra stuff that ubuntu added that xubuntu doesnt need
[18:06] <RandyboY> ok, so xubuntus xfce is still there?
[18:06] <RandyboY> aha
[18:06] <vidd> there is always the possibility that a package here or there might get left
[18:07] <RandyboY> yeah, as long as it gets most of it
[18:07] <vidd> the --purge gets rid of config files as well as the applications
[18:07] <RandyboY> yeah, great ill try :)
[18:18] <charlie-tca> Does anyone know why the LiveCD has a 10 second countdown on the login screen?
[18:23] <vidd> charlie-tca, so the livecd loads the desktop for the user
[18:23] <vidd> =]
[18:24] <charlie-tca> Could it be 2 or 3 seconds instead?
[18:24] <vidd> that would be for the -devel group =]
[18:24] <charlie-tca> okay
[18:25] <vidd> but if you hit your enter key, it should launch for you
[18:25] <vidd> i assume its to give the user time to change default config (language, etc) before it auto-launches
[18:26] <charlie-tca> I figured if I hit enter, it'll go to 30 and wait for my name and password!
[18:27] <vidd> have you tried it?
[18:27] <charlie-tca> not yet, but I will on the next restart
[18:28]  * vidd doesnt use livecd's so he cant be 100% possitive
[18:28] <charlie-tca> I have been testing them, so I can try it
[18:35] <william56> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=2065160&postcount=10 anyone know how i can access what that guy was talking about in xubuntu?
[18:37] <charlie-tca> william56: should be the same way. You should have the speaker on the top panel, right side.
[18:37] <william56> there isn't one
[18:38] <william56> all i've got up there is a pidgin icon, the network status icon, the time, and that quit button
[18:39] <charlie-tca> try right click on the panel, add new item, Volume Control
[18:39] <vidd> william56, right-click on one of your panels and add "volume manger"
[18:39] <vidd> control...not manager
[18:39] <william56> ah, hell yea. thanks
[18:40] <vidd> william56, also....if you use more then one media application (like toem for movies and something else for music) check those apps for volume levels
[18:41] <vidd> for example, i use gxine for movies....
[18:41] <vidd> i had the volume set to about medium, and my pidgin audio was reduced...even though volume control had everything set to max
[18:43] <william56> well, i had everything maxed in both my media player and alsamixer.. i have to set the volume to headphone in windows too
[18:43] <vidd> so windows is jacked up too?
[18:44] <vidd> or did we help you fix it already?
[18:45] <william56> uhh, windows is working fine.. theres a panel in it that came from the driver cd that lets me choose headphone for a volume boost, making it sound normal.. selecting headphone in xubuntu, though, seems to be making the sound more quiet, though
[18:46] <vidd> william56, so even with the volume control you still having issue?
[18:46] <william56> yep
[18:46] <vidd> are you using headphones?
[18:47] <william56> nope
[18:47] <william56> i'm using a pair of speakers with nothing but a cord to connect to my pc
[18:47] <vidd> if you right-click the volume icon and choose "properties"....
[18:48] <vidd> what choices do you have under "device"
[18:48] <william56> just this: #0: HDA ATI SB
[18:48] <vidd> and what is selected for "Wannabe Master"?
[18:48] <william56> the master was originally selected
[18:50] <william56> changing that doesnt seem to affect anything
[19:11] <vidd> sorry...im at work and a call came in
[19:11] <william56> no problem
[19:12] <vidd> im at a loss....
[19:13] <vidd> looks like ALSA has your right card selected'
[19:13] <vidd> and its configured correctly
[19:14] <vidd> actually...what is the issue? no sound or quite?
[19:14] <william56> it's quiet with everything in alsamixer at 100%
[19:15] <vidd> silly question.....are the speakers plugged into the correct jack?
[19:15] <william56> yep.. i believe so
[19:15] <william56> it's the green jack in the back of my pc
[19:15] <vidd> how many jacks are there?
[19:16] <william56> 6 i think
[19:16] <william56> plus two in the front
[19:16] <william56> actually there are 5 and a square one
[19:16] <vidd> ic
[19:16] <vidd> try plugging the speakers into the headphone jack on the front
[19:17] <vidd> any better?
[19:17] <william56> can't hear anything now; lemme check alsamixer
[19:17] <vidd> set headphone to max
[19:18] <william56> it's already maxed, i just needed to re-enable it. it's louder than using the back, but it still isn't very loud. and now i'm noticing a lot of static
[19:19] <vidd> you have a dolby 5.1 surround sound sound-card
[19:19] <william56> btw "cat /proc/asound/card0/codec#* | grep Codec" returns "Codec: Realtek ALC883"
[19:20] <vidd> and you are using speakers that dont support it....
[19:20] <vidd> plug the speakers into the black jack on the back
[19:20] <vidd> any better?
[19:20] <william56> no sound at all now
[19:21] <vidd> move the speakers from jack to jack
[19:21] <vidd> one of them is the mono-out
[19:22] <vidd> it will produce the best sound
[19:22] <vidd> are these speakers powered?
[19:22] <william56> nope
[19:22] <vidd> then dont expect to get all that great sound out of them
[19:23] <william56> well, in windows, at least, i can get clear loud sound
[19:23] <vidd> in windows, you can stupify the card
[19:24] <vidd> your best bet will likely be the headphone selection
[19:24] <vidd> or you can invest in some 5.1 compatable speakers
[19:24] <william56> huh, i just plugged a pair of headphones into the green jack, and there's static without any sound playing
[19:24] <william56> though the sound is louder this way
[19:26] <vidd> since your speakers are not powered, there is no volume control on them
[19:27] <vidd> if ya get some better speakers (or at least powered speakers) you would see improvement
[20:04] <volo> hi
[20:05] <vidd> hello volo
[22:04] <wuesti> moin, moin!
[22:16] <JannoTT> !8.10
[22:18] <JannoTT> !9.04
[22:19] <JannoTT> That's funny name
[23:56] <Zerothis> how do i increase my virtual using xrandr? I'd like a 1024x768 next to a 1024x768, I currently have a 640x480>640x480. Getting a 'screen cannot be larger than 1280x1200' error. manually adding "virtual 1664 768" to my xorg.conf boots to console
[23:57] <vagab0nd> can anyone help me configure my wireless?
[23:59] <Odd-rationale> !wireless | vagab0nd