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Tannetfb: you can get a kde4 version of kubuntu hardy00:00
petrpeople.... how can I turn russian language in Kopete on? Now I hawe only english. When I press "Alt+Shift" nothing heppen.00:00
benbloomi found it very disapointing for the 10 minutes until I ran back to kde3 with my tail 'twixt my legs00:00
etfbTann: Yes, but you can get a nuclear reactor without lead shielding too.  Doesn't mean you should...00:00
Tannetfb: yeah I know00:00
etfbbenbloom: What's that - Gnome or KDE4?00:00
dr_willisThe_ManU_212,  from what i am seein g in the 8.10 repos . there may be some kde3 apps still in there.. but its a bit hard to tell. Im trying ubuntu right now. Not kubuntu00:00
benbloomkde400:01
benbloomi use Gnome on my laptop. but I'm thinking about stepping back to Xfce for resource savings00:01
Tanndr_willis: If I ever have to do a clean install of intrepid (with kde4 at its current state) I would use ubuntu00:02
The_ManU_212dr_willis: you dont mean me?00:02
etfbbenbloom: Ah.  I kind of wish I had a way to test it, but there's no point doing usability testing inside a virtual machine, for obvious reasons.00:02
* dr_willis i still wakeing up. :)00:02
benbloommy laptop is maxed at 512 ram and I'm finding it VERY SLOW00:02
dr_willisI got 8.10 going inside virtualbox here.00:02
etfbbenbloom: My daughter had Xubuntu on her old desktop computer, but the speed savings weren't much.  Better to add more memory.00:03
dr_willisand on a laptop. I will admit wireless worked   without any tricks/hacks/work on 8.10 for me.. which is a first.00:03
etfbbenbloom: She's got a slightly faster machine with more RAM and Kubuntu 8.04, and she's fine with it.00:03
Tannpetr: Kopete has a translator plugin under Settings>Configure Plugins00:03
benbloomsecond DIMM is broken :( max capacity is 512 per slot00:04
etfbbenbloom: Bother!00:04
benbloomI00:04
benbloomi'd have to replace the motherboard00:04
benbloombought the computer for $10000:04
benbloomso Xubuntu isn't much leaner in terms of system resources?00:05
TannNo. I have actually heard from someone that it was slower. (I'm not too sure about that though)00:06
benbloomhmmm. you're making me very sad guys00:06
dr_willisjwm + rox-filer is rather minimal :)00:06
benbloomBTW dr_willis last night you helped me with display problems right?00:07
etfbbenbloom: My experience was that the slow old PC she used to use (AMD Duron, 384Mb) was slow no matter what.  Maybe I was foolish to give her that box in the first place, tho it runs OK with Windows 2000 as our only Microsoft box.00:07
dr_willisI recall helping 2 people yesterday.. both had issues with KVM switches.00:07
dr_willis:)00:07
benbloomyes. so anyway the problem's fixed without messing with the KVM. just had to add 1 mode to the xorg.conf and reboot00:08
dr_willisi recall that helping one person.. then the 2nd i told to do that.. well i had to leave befor i learned if that worked..00:08
dr_willisso now we know the answer! :)00:08
benbloommy Ram problems turned out to be hardware compatibility issue. Patriot ram seem's to have a lot of that00:08
etfbBetter go do work.  Another day, another pile of house repairs.  Bye all!00:10
benbloomso jwm is pretty lightweight?00:11
dr_willisif theres a wm lighter then JWM ive not seen it...00:12
dr_willis:)00:12
dr_willis!info jwm00:12
ubottujwm (source: jwm): Very small lightweight pure X11 window manager with tray and menus. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0.1-1.1 (hardy), package size 93 kB, installed size 284 kB00:12
dr_willis!info twm00:12
ubottutwm (source: twm): Tab window manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.0.3-3 (hardy), package size 107 kB, installed size 380 kB00:12
dr_willisbeats twm by 100k00:13
benbloomI want to be able to play music, surf the web and run a spreadsheet editor (excell clone) is that the kind I could do with jwm?00:13
dr_willismatchbox mightbe smaller.. but matchbox is weird.00:13
dr_willisthe window manager wont matter for that benbloom00:13
dr_willisits just the under laying foundation.. the apps allstill run the same00:13
The_ManU_212i got a queston for adept manager, i use it for updates, which options offers it, can i also deactivate a part of an update? and the ubvuntu signs what are they for?00:14
dr_willisjwm may take some tweaking to get set up how you like it.  (edit the .jwmrc file)00:14
dr_willisI use rox-filer with jwm to get icons on the desktop and work as its filemanager00:14
benbloomdoes changing wms make a big dif in how resources are allocated? in otherwords is gnome the problem? or is it my apps?00:14
dr_willisgnome uses a bit of ram.. but the apps i imagine are using most of it.00:15
dr_willisfirefox can be a hog. and Openoffice - also a real ram grabber00:15
benbloomyeah. i00:15
benbloomve noticed00:15
benbloomgod forbid I should run both at once... my system nearly freezes00:16
dr_willisproblem with jwm - will be theres no 'auto mounting of removeable media' stuff.. you would have to use some mounting gui apps most likely.00:16
benbloomok. that's good to know.00:16
benbloomand as far as making the switch. can I install jwm and then somehow tell gnome to stop loading (or uninstall it)00:17
benbloomor do i have to rebuild my OS from the ground up00:17
dr_willisthe GDM screen should have a sessions entry for jdm00:17
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dr_willisjwm00:17
benbloomah. right00:17
dr_willisthis is linux.. you dont rebuild the OS just to change window managers. :)00:18
dr_willisThats windows...00:18
dr_willis;P00:18
benbloomlol. still getting used to it00:18
benbloomfreedom00:18
* benbloom sighs00:18
dr_willissudo apt-get install jwm rox-filer00:18
benbloomand is there a good alternative to editing spreadsheets on openoffice?00:19
dr_willisgnome has some spreadsheet tool.00:19
benbloomI've already decided to switch to opera00:19
dr_willisbut i dont know how compatiabel it is.00:19
benbloomwith jwm?00:19
dr_willisthe window manager wont matter...00:19
dr_willis:) we covered that00:19
benbloomright sorry00:19
dr_willisgnumeric may not have all the fetures of OOcalc00:20
benbloomforgot (I get the concepts just haven't gotten used to them)00:20
benbloomso what's up with all the kprograms? u don't need kubuntu to run them but they are "intigrated" what does that even mean?00:20
benbloomi meant kde not kubuntu00:22
dr_willisThey use the kde libraryes.00:22
dr_willisYou can mixx and match kde and gnome apps with each other all you want00:22
dr_willis'Linux is like Legos' - Differnt blocks forming layers.. that you then put other blocks on. :)00:22
benbloomso those load as needed only right? (the kde libs)00:22
dr_willisYep00:22
dr_willisso if you use a kde app and a gnome app. you just loaded both set of libs.00:23
dr_willis!info jwm00:23
benbloomand unload when a program closes?00:23
ubottujwm (source: jwm): Very small lightweight pure X11 window manager with tray and menus. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0.1-1.1 (hardy), package size 93 kB, installed size 284 kB00:23
dr_willisnote that jwm is a 'pure X11'  its using just the basic X libs. Not the QT or GTK libs.00:23
benbloomso the advantage there is that those libraries are only loaded as needed by the programs i use (if at all)00:24
benbloom?00:25
dr_willisbasically00:25
benbloomk so what's the point of Xubuntu then? sounds like it's not doing it's goal00:26
dr_willisxubuntu is still using gtk  for most of it stuff.. its very close to 'gnome'00:26
dr_willisI think its using gtk...00:26
dr_willisit just dosent use as much ram as gnome.00:26
benbloomI thought it used xfce instead of gtk?00:27
dr_willisxfce the name of the desktop00:27
dr_willissee   http://xwinman.org/00:28
dr_willisXfce is a lightweight desktop environment for UNIX platforms. It is similar to the commercial CDE, and is now based on the GTK+ toolkit.00:28
benbloomI thought the whole point of xubuntu was to create a minimalist OS for people with limited resources00:33
dr_willisxubuntu is more minimal then gnome00:33
dr_willisif you want VERY VERY light system,  theres DSL, and PUPPYlinux00:34
the_darkside_986Anyone unable to get the "loading kernel" box to show up when trying kubuntu 8.10 beta (i386) cd?00:34
dr_willisYou can only trim so much out and keep full 'desktop' functionality00:34
the_darkside_986I can't get the "Check CD for defects" item to work either00:34
vandamn someone help me00:35
mjbt38any specific chan to ask about software....need something to edit the video / avi make it brighter ?00:35
vanmy KDE keep creating snapshot00:35
vanwindows00:35
vanwhen if i kill the ksnpashot process00:35
vanit keep appearing00:35
vanwhat going on00:35
dr_willis!enter00:35
antonio_ciao00:35
ubottuPlease try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!00:35
vansorry00:36
dr_williscant say that i ever used ksnapshot. :) i wonder if its not got some settingto do that.. check its settings?00:36
vannah its a bug00:36
dr_willisvery possible.00:36
dr_willisthis is kde3 or 4?00:36
vani have hold the button printscreen for like 1 seocnd by mistake00:37
vannow its spamming like 324674323167486871264278 windows00:37
vaneven if i kill the process..00:37
vanlol00:37
vanhmm not sure what kde.. i use 8.04 version00:37
mjbt38you have some sort of "sudo" stickey key ?00:38
vannah excpet if kde did it by default00:38
mjbt38./exec kdeversion if ya usin konversation00:38
mjbt38Qt: 3.3.8b00:38
mjbt38KDE: 3.5.1000:38
mjbt38kde-config: 1.000:38
van./exec kdeversion00:38
vanops00:38
mjbt38no .00:38
k3kubuntu kicks ars00:39
vanQt: 3.3.8b00:39
vanKDE: 3.5.900:39
vankde-config: 1.000:39
vanKDE: 3.5.900:39
mjbt38./exec cmd uname -a00:40
mjbt38er00:40
mjbt38Linux BlackBox 2.6.24-21-generic #1 SMP Mon Aug 25 16:57:51 UTC 2008 x86_64 GNU/Linux00:40
vanLinux van 2.6.24-19-generic #1 SMP Wed Aug 20 22:56:21 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux00:40
* mjbt38 64bit00:41
vanO_O00:41
dr_willistesting out 64bit on my laptop now. :)00:41
vanwhat's better on 64bit ?00:41
dr_willismore bits.. to impress the chicks...00:42
dr_willis:)00:42
vanlol..00:42
dr_willissome tasks are supposed to be faster00:42
dr_willismore ram access..00:42
dr_willisi hear battery life may be worse00:42
vanwe can use bigmem support with 32bit00:42
vanfor the ram..00:42
dr_willismemory isent really an issue untill you get over 4gb...00:42
vanhow much ram you got?00:42
dr_willisor if you have exactly 4gb - which my laptop does00:42
vandont tell me ur one of those freak tat get like 16gb ram on a little station00:43
dr_willisIt even came with 64bit windows.00:43
vanoh ok00:43
vanmy laptop has 4gb too00:43
vani use 32bit version and its works fine :)00:43
dr_willisdesktop box has 3gb. :)00:43
vanwhy need the 64bit O_O00:43
dr_williseven with exactly 4gb - i imagine im not gettingit 'all' under 32bit.00:43
vanhmm well00:44
vani am thinking to buy the little ASUS n10j00:44
vanits fucking small and lighter with 320 HD and 2gb ram00:44
van=D00:44
vanhoudl i go for it?00:44
dr_willisBig Toys for Big Boys.00:45
dr_willis:)00:45
vanhmm should i got for it or not?00:45
van=/00:45
vanstill thinking00:45
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benbloomhey dr_willis (or anyone else for that matter) is there a good <i>lean</i> network control utility for jwm00:47
cuznt-NickServ- <bewofthe@verizon.net> is not a valid email address.00:47
cuzntit is too00:47
ImRaiNeanybody ther?00:47
mjbt38Sysinfo for 'BlackBox': Linux 2.6.24-21-generic running KDE 3.5.10, CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) D CPU 2.80GHz at 3502 MHz (7006 bogomips), HD: 97/230GB, RAM: 1998/2014MB, 118 proc's, 7.53h up00:47
mjbt38./exec sysinfo00:47
vanexec sysinfo00:48
mjbt38fail00:48
vanSysinfo for 'van': Linux 2.6.24-19-generic running KDE 3.5.9, CPU: Intel(R)Pentium(R)4CPU3.00GHz at 2400 MHz (6000 bogomips), , RAM: 2044/3034MB, 158 proc's, 19.14min up00:48
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dr_willisbenbloom,  to controll what part/features ? Ive never really needed to do much with networks :) other then connect..00:48
benbloomwireless connect00:49
ImRaiNecan anybody help me fix my kde00:49
benbloomI could use the cl but I don't know how00:49
Jammuhi i need a litle help whit my splash screen00:49
mjbt38Pitivi Video Editor00:49
mjbt38er sorry00:49
mjbt38brb00:49
dr_willisI dont use wireless...  :) but i may start.. since it now works with 8.1000:49
dr_willisbenbloom,  to do wireless stuff you will have to run that nm-applet/tool most likely00:50
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Jammudr_willis what op u got?00:50
Jammusorry os00:50
mjbt38network-manager00:50
dr_willistesting 8.10 64bit Ubuntu on the laptop.. wireless WORKED! :)00:50
crapo_vertHey, i#ve isntalled kubuntu 8.10 Beta ...but with firefox xserver crashs very often :( any solutions?00:51
Jammusame here but has been working for a while00:51
benbloomgreat so those applets don't require all the gnome libs?00:51
Jammuhi i need a litle help whit my splash screen00:51
mjbt38it dont work on 64bit crapo_vert00:52
mjbt38not for me it didnt00:52
mjbt38i took it out and just used kde-desktop00:52
mjbt3832bit tho ...no clue00:53
crapo_vertBut i've got 32bit only athlonXp 2200+00:53
mjbt38hmm00:54
mjbt38ati graphics?00:55
donjr_KSI burned a divx video to CD, plays fine in wondows.  Won't play on my kubuntu box. I do have the divx codecs from the repo, any suggestions?00:56
petrbye, people.00:56
crapo_vertbye00:57
crapo_vertNo ati, got nvidia.00:57
Jammuprinter scanner help any one??00:58
donjr_KSwhat about the printer/scanner?00:59
* memeemeee switched over to the laptop (gotta watch the REDSOX!!!)01:00
Jammuit prints but not scans01:00
Jammuits a epson01:00
donjr_KSmay have to use ndiswrapper to run the proper drivers01:01
Jammu???01:01
Jammuim new01:02
donjr_KSgoogle ndiswrapper. I don't know enough to explain it properly.01:03
donjr_KSbut in short it will take the .sys and .inf files of windows drivers and use them to run the printer/scanner01:03
donjr_KSAnyone have any info on playing divx video files when the divx codec from the repo aren't working?01:04
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donjr_KSthe CD I burned plays fine on my windows box, but won't play in Kubuntu01:05
contrastGreets, everyone...01:05
Wicked!restricted01:05
ubottuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats01:05
Wicked!restricted | donjr_KS01:05
ubottudonjr_KS: please see above01:05
donjr_KSthanks01:06
Wickednp01:06
contrastAnyone here use Kino? I'm trying to figure out how to select the audio track on an imported .vob file that has more than one.01:07
JammuKS it just says a lot about wireless drivers01:08
mephxanyone got a 8400M GS and can adjust the led brightness? (this is eating more time than my job does...)01:11
memeemeeeok. anyone know about minimal installations of ubuntu? is there a channel I should join?01:26
* memeemeee is away: I'm busy01:27
contrastmemeemeee: what exactly do you need to know? i've done a few installs from the minimal cd.01:27
memeemeeecontrast, I'm running on limited resources on my laptop and I want to switch to jwm01:33
memeemeeeI'm actually running ubuntu on my laptop now (been using kubuntu on my desktop which is why I asked here)01:34
contrastmemeemeee: ok... so what's your question? :)01:36
manderto room in general: I've been running Ubuntu 8.04, but using KTorrent has been eating up a lot of memory. Things were laggy. Switched to Xfce/Kubuntu and things are *better*.01:37
memeemeeewell. for one thing I want to load into x11/jwm directly at boot without having to drop into failsafe terminal first01:38
BluesKajmemory is cheap these days . I added a 1G stick for $3501:39
WharfedaleHi there.01:39
muimotahi!01:39
kyrksaeteroraHi all. I recently installed Kubuntu 8.04 on my laptop and since 8.04 doesn't have drivers for my wireless card, I used NDISwrapper to install them. The drivers are properly installed, however I am having difficulties configuring the computer to use the wireless. It shows me both an eth0 and a wlan0 interface so I know the card is working (also the card works under windows), but I don't know how to tell Kubuntu to use the wlan0 conn01:40
memeemeeealso, I Imagine there's some kind of jwmrc or autoload file I can start my applets from01:40
manderto room: any torrent client better than KTorrent, for memory issues?01:40
WharfedaleIm having trouble anabling nvidia driver on kde4 it worked on 3 though01:40
Jammudoes NDISwrapper  work on printers???01:40
Wharfedaleanyone good with that01:40
contrastmemeemeee: not sure, sorry. i've never used jwm, nor have i gone w/o a display manager. you know you can use gdm or kdm w/o having gnome or kde installed, right?01:41
kyrksaeteroraNDISwrapper is only for wifi drivers01:41
kyrksaeteroraWhat kind of printer do you have?01:41
contrastthere are other lightweight display managers as well01:41
Jammuok what good for printer/scanners?01:41
manderkryks, are all restricted drivers enabled?01:41
JammuBrB01:42
manderBlueskaj, I'm such a neophyte I'm still trying to figure out which memory is appropriate for my laptop. And $35 has better uses 'round these parts right now, sadly.01:42
memeemeeeBluesKaj, not everyone can upgrade their hardware. $ is not the only limitation01:42
BluesKajmemeemeee:  usually the easiest upgrade is memory01:44
kyrksaeteroraBluesKaj that's true however on some laptops it can be a bitch01:44
BluesKajright01:44
kyrksaeteroraeither because the machine is outdated and memory is no longer available or because it's proprietary01:44
contrastAnyone here use Kino? I'm trying to figure out how to select the audio track on an imported .vob.01:45
memeemeeeBluesKaj, i've got a laptop with only 1 functioning DIMM and it's max RAM is 51201:45
BluesKajthen using a barebones install and desktop like xfc will make a large diff01:46
memeemeeejust saying-- I wish I could just ad $$ to my computer instead of having to conserve resources in my wm01:46
kyrksaeteroraanybody got suggestions for my wireless config issue?01:46
contrastmemeemeee: enlightenment is definitely worth checking out also - there's a repo for the latest e17: deb http://e17.dunnewind.net/ubuntu hardy e1701:47
manderkyrks, for me it was always forgetting to enable restricted drivers. That's as much use as I can be of to you, sorry.01:47
kyrksaeterorahow do I enable restricted drivers?01:48
memeemeeekyrksaeterora, what was the wireless problem again?01:48
kyrksaeteroradrivers are installed, card works right, but I can't get the computer to connect through the wlan0 interface and not the eth001:49
kyrksaeterorathere's no ethernet cord in it01:49
Dragon_Masterkyrksaeterora, what KDE version?01:49
Dragon_MasterxD01:49
kyrksaeterora3.x01:49
Dragon_Masterouch XD01:49
bel666could someone help me to get to work any gateway/router applitation on my ubuntu?01:49
Dragon_MasterIts under the System Menu01:49
Dragon_MasterHardware Drivers Manager01:49
memeemeeea wireless printer? kyrksaeterora01:49
kyrksaeteroramemeemeee no01:49
kyrksaeterorahere lemme paste it01:49
kyrksaeteroraHi all. I recently installed Kubuntu 8.04 on my laptop and since 8.04 doesn't have drivers for my wireless card, I used NDISwrapper to install them. The drivers are properly installed, however I am having difficulties configuring the computer to use the wireless. It shows me both an eth0 and a wlan0 interface so I know the card is working (also the card works under windows), but I don't know how to tell Kubuntu to use the wlan0 conn01:49
memeemeeeah01:50
memeemeeei had this problem01:50
memeemeeewhich wireless card u using?01:50
kyrksaeteroraDragon_Master underneath the hardware drivers program I get no drivers shown01:50
kyrksaeteroramemeemeee, Airlink101 AWLC3026, it has the Mrv8k chipset01:50
Dragon_MasteroO01:51
kyrksaeterorai know, i know01:51
kyrksaeteroraI got it for free with the laptop01:51
kyrksaeterorait works01:51
kyrksaeteroraif I had to buy my own wireless card I'd have a bloody netgear01:51
Dragon_Master^5 kyrksaeterora01:51
kyrksaeterorawhat?01:52
Dragon_MasterNETGEAR WPN111 here =P01:52
Dragon_MasterxD01:52
kyrksaeterorapunk01:52
kyrksaeterora=/01:52
Dragon_MasterNETGEAR Wireless G+Mimo Router >>01:52
kyrksaeteroraalso if I wasn't broke I'd just go get a netgear card for simplicity01:52
kyrksaeteroraon my desktop I've got a Linksys SRX400 PCI card and I have an SRX400 router01:52
manderI think that was a "high five", kyrks01:52
kyrksaeteroraoh snap01:53
kyrksaeterorai see what you did there01:53
Dragon_MasterxD01:53
Dragon_Masterbrb01:53
Dragon_Mastergotta restart after KDE update >>01:53
kyrksaeteroranetgear is pro. I had a netgear wireless card with my last laptop but it got jacked01:53
Dragon_Masterdang01:53
Dragon_MasterxD01:53
kyrksaeteroraneeded a lappy for school so I ended up paying $400 for a similarly aged dell (had a compaq before) with that wireless card but no working speakers01:54
mandersucks, Kyrks. Both card and laptop, or just card?01:54
Dragon_MasterMine I bought for 60$ at Office Depot01:54
Dragon_MasterxD01:54
kyrksaeteroralaptop got jacked, card was in it01:54
kyrksaeteroraof course01:54
manderFeh! A pox on the thief!01:54
kyrksaeterorathe guy who did it01:54
kyrksaeterorawas a blitering idiot01:54
Dragon_Masterkyrksaeterora, Alienware Aurora m9700, Kubuntu 8.04 KDE 4.1.201:54
Dragon_Master=]01:55
kyrksaeterorahe went through my internet history wherein he logged on to some forums I moderate01:55
kyrksaeteroraso I checked my own posting IP01:55
Dragon_Masterif it got jacked I'd be on the hunt01:55
Dragon_MasterxD01:55
kyrksaeteroratracert'd every IP01:55
kyrksaeterorafound one that wasn't me01:55
kyrksaeteroraended up bombing the fuck out of my old lappy01:55
Dragon_Master><01:55
Dragon_Masterbrb01:55
manderwow, poor thing. A sacrifice for the cause.01:55
Dragon_Master=]01:56
WharfedaleDragon_Master: did u help me before01:56
contrastAnyone here use Kino? I'm trying to figure out how to select the audio track on an imported .vob.01:56
kyrksaeteroramemeemeee you there?01:56
memeemeeekyrksaeterora, i am. sorry01:57
kyrksaeterorak01:57
kyrksaeterorajust checking01:57
memeemeeegot a lot of windows open plus watching the redsox01:57
kyrksaeteroramemeemeee i just did a 'ndiswrapper -l' and it came up with 'mrv8000c : driver installed, device present"01:58
kyrksaeteroraalso the light on the card is blinking, just the power light, not the data one01:58
memeemeeeI found the solutions to my wlan config problems on ubuntuforums but I have broadcom which seems to be well supported01:58
memeemeeeis it a PCMCIA card? or internal01:58
kyrksaeteroraPCMCIA.01:59
kyrksaeterorahehe01:59
kyrksaeteroraPCMCIA = people can't memorize computer industry acronyms01:59
memeemeeeyeah-- I guess I'm not going to be much help01:59
Wharfedalehow do i remove my nvidia drivers02:04
BluesKajhow were they installed ?02:04
Wharfedalekubuntu told me they were avalable02:05
Wharfedalei selected the recomented one02:05
Wharfedaleeverytime kubuntu starts it shows nvidia and some rubish then comes up fail in red02:05
Wharfedalestill starts x02:05
Wharfedalebut no 3d support02:06
Wharfedalebasicly a popup apeared saying trhere are drivers avalable02:07
Wharfedalei just selected the recomended one02:07
Wharfedalebigest mistake i did02:07
Wharfedalelol02:07
BluesKajWharfedale: was it a .gz or .bz2 file ?02:16
giraoportugues onde02:18
kyrksaeteroraI'm pretty sure everybody here only speaks english, girao. Sorry.02:18
DarthFrog!pt | girao02:18
ubottugirao: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.02:18
kyrksaeteroraor that02:18
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guiola02:26
guiopa02:26
giraosabem alguma coisa sobre o kurumin ng02:27
DarthFroggirao: Ingles, por favor.02:28
giraoi'm not god in inglês02:29
DarthFrogWe don't speak portuguese.02:29
DarthFrog!pt02:29
ubottuPor favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.02:29
giraotanks02:30
DarthFrogDe nada. :-)02:30
wharfi have correct driver instaled for nvidia02:30
wharfyet its not working when i upgraded to kde402:30
wharfany ideas?02:30
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guihow do you do for doing update in kde???02:32
wharfWHat do you mean?02:33
guii use kurumin ng, i guess than i use kde 3.... cause my version is  8.0602:33
guithe version of kde 4 is better than the version of kde 3?02:34
wharfgui, looks nice, im having graphics problems though02:35
wharfhaha02:36
DarthFroggui: KDE3 is more mature, KDE4 is the future.02:36
kyrksaeterorahow can I upgrade from KDE 3.x to KDE 4.1?02:36
guihum..02:36
wharfDarthfrog, u any good with graphics02:36
DarthFrog!kde402:36
ubottuKDE 4.1.2 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. Packages can be found at  http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.1.2 - Support in #kubuntu-kde402:36
guihttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/IntrepidUpgrades/Kubuntu02:36
DarthFrogwharf: Not really. Sorry.02:36
kyrksaeteroragui not under intrepid, under hardy02:36
wharfok problems man02:37
wharf:)02:37
wharfno problems**02:37
DarthFrogwharf: What do you mean, nvidia is not working in kDE4?02:37
Dragon_MasterI need help now XD02:37
Dragon_MasterKDE4.1 Plasma Crash on Login02:38
wharfDarthFrog: on kde3 i had desktop effects and everything, when i upgraded to kde4, my effects stopped, and graphics driver aint working02:38
DarthFrogBut you have a GUI?02:38
cuzntmy pc could not handle the plasma either02:38
wharfi have x just no 3d support02:38
l3r1kI'm having issues installing ubuntu 8.04. Whenever I use the LiveCD, it boots me into a BusyBox 'ash' shell and I cant get out of it. Whenever I use the alternate install CD, it complains that it cant find the CDROM in the drive after it autodetects my keyboard layout. What can I do?02:38
DarthFrogWharf: Type this in a console: glxinfo | grep endering02:39
DarthFrogWhat does it say?02:39
DarthFrogDragon_Master: Try moving your .kde4 directory to .kde4.saved and log in again.02:40
wharfXlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".02:40
wharfError: couldn't find RGB GLX visual or fbconfig02:40
wharfbut02:40
wharfthe xlib error02:40
wharfis like 10 lines repeating that same line02:40
wharfcorrect driver installed as well.02:41
Dragon_Masterkz =P02:41
DarthFrogRun "jockey-kde" and enable the driver.02:41
Dragon_Masterwhats the Path to kde4 XD02:42
DarthFrog~/.kde402:42
nejodel3r1k: what motherboard does you rig have?02:42
l3r1k(Motherboard) ASUSTeK Computer INC. Goldfish3, version 1.xx02:42
wharfdarthfrog, i tryed that, i click enable nothing happens02:42
wharfthe both drivers go gray02:42
l3r1kThat one, nejode.02:42
wharfand unclickable then02:42
Dragon_Masterand one more thing02:42
DarthFrogwharf: File a bug report.02:42
DarthFrog!bug02:43
ubottuIf you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots02:43
Dragon_MasterI don't do much with Terminal02:43
Dragon_Masterbut whats the command to move a file XD02:43
wharfDarth, i had a console open, when i clicked enable, loads of writing came on console02:43
DarthFrogDragon_Master: "mv ~/.kde4 ~/.kde4.saved"  as you, not via sudo.02:44
nejodel3rik: some ASUS mobo's use the marvel IDE controller... they're no supported in linux02:44
DarthFrognejode: That wouldn't affect booting into LiveCD mode, though, I wouldn't think.02:45
nejodel3r1k: it drops to BusyBox prompt because it can loas the correct kernel module02:45
DarthFrogAh.  I sit corrected. :-)02:45
nejode*can't load02:45
l3r1kWhat do you reccomend I do about it?02:45
nejode...sure it can, the "el torito" standard for cd-rom boot uses floppy emulation02:46
kyrksaeterorais there any way to use the console to update to KDE 4.1.2 easily? I already enabled the repository for KDE4.1.2 that was on the kubuntu.org site02:46
nejode...when it boots, the machine "thinks" it's booting from a floppy02:47
wharfhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/59950/  thats the rubish that came up on colsole02:47
Dragon_Masterthnx Darth =]02:48
nejode...tries to load the coorect module for the cd- and boom!02:48
DarthFrogkyrksaeterora: sudo apt-get update && apt-cache search kde4 | less02:48
nejodel3r1k: first you have to confirm that's the problem02:48
DarthFrogkyrksaeterora: Cut 'n paste that into a console.02:48
l3r1k>:(02:49
DarthFrogkyrksaeterora: Then look through the out put to see what you want. :-)02:49
nejode...you have to remove "quiet" and "splash" from the kernel boot line02:49
DarthFrogkyrksaeterora: then: sudo apt-get install <what you want>02:49
l3r1kI have, too much texts floods by me to read it, nejode.02:49
kyrksaeterorato upgrade to KDE4 what kind of things would I want02:50
madohello guys!02:50
kyrksaeterorahello mado02:50
nejode...usually it's the last 6 or 10 lines before it drops to busybox02:50
madois anyone here who bought spore??02:50
madohello kyrksaeterora02:50
DarthFrogkyrksaeterora: Well, there will be a kde4-desktop meta package in all that.  That'll pull in every thing you need.02:51
kyrksaeterorameta package? should I just look for the hit with meta in it?02:51
madoi know it is a game for windows and mac ... but does anybody here own the game?02:51
kyrksaeteroramado I don't own it but I've played it02:51
madoi need someone who has the dvd ...02:51
kyrksaeterorawhycome?02:51
madoto send me a file ... i found my cd with scratches and it could be that my brother did them accidently02:52
madothere is one file my computer can't read02:52
madoand i thought about copying this file02:52
kyrksaeteroraif it's for backup type purposes (like this appears to be), I would search for a torrent with a cd image file and mount it using Daemon Tools or Alcohol 120% under windows02:53
kyrksaeterorayou can probably find a .iso file easily02:53
kyrksaeteroraI actually make all my discs into .iso files and use daemon to mount them, you get better load times and such02:53
madoi don't know anything about such stuff :|02:54
kyrksaeteroraalright02:54
kyrksaeterorago to isohunt or mininova02:54
kyrksaeteroraget a torrent02:54
madoi am currently just sad about the whole thing ...02:54
kyrksaeteroralet it download02:54
madothe cd was a present02:54
kyrksaeterorabut make sure it's a torrent for an .iso file02:54
kyrksaeteroraonce you have the whole .iso file, download daemon tools and install it.02:54
madois this legal?02:54
kyrksaeterorayes02:55
kyrksaeteroraif you legally own a physical copy02:55
madoi don't want the cops knocking at my door02:55
madoi own one ... i can also prove it02:55
kyrksaeterorathen it's legal02:55
madoi hope it is in my country too02:55
kyrksaeteroraso get daemon tools installed and it will make virtual CD drives.02:55
kyrksaeteroraThen right click on the daemon tools logo in your task bar and mouse over a cd drive menu, select "mount"02:56
madowait a sec kyrksaeterora ... first i have to find such a file you said02:56
madoand this program02:56
kyrksaeterorahttp://isohunt.com/torrent_details/50187483/spore?tab=summary02:56
kyrksaeterorado you know how to torrent?02:56
madowell ... i know opera can handle files like that02:57
kyrksaeterorafair enough02:57
kyrksaeteroraget the .iso file from the .torrent02:57
kyrksaeteroramount the .iso with daemon tools02:57
kyrksaeterorait will act just like a CD drive would02:57
madokyrksaeterora, what makes you sure 1) that this is legal? ... 2) that this is the right "iso"-file?02:58
kyrksaeterora1) it's legal in the US because you own a copy already. If (and this is a big if) you come under questioning for downloading copyrighted material, you can state that the DMCA (digital millenium copyright act) allows you to digitally archive things you legall own02:58
kyrksaeterora2) I can't be sure it's the right ISO file but I can sure as hell assume and for the most part, people upload the right file anwyays.02:59
kyrksaeteroraWhen you buy/get a movie, music, game, etc02:59
kyrksaeterorayou're not buying the material itself per se, you're buying the right to use it for yourself03:00
kyrksaeterorathis includes the manipulation of format.03:00
kyrksaeteroraSince you already own a copy of Spore, you technically own a license to it and can't get in trouble for having a digital copy.03:00
madowell ... i'm not so sure about that ... maybe it's just angst ... but ... thanks for your help ...03:01
madodo you think i can burn this file too?03:02
madoso that i have a new spore-dvd?03:02
kyrksaeteroraif you have a DVD burner and a blank DVD, yes.03:02
kyrksaeteroraYou can use Nero (costs money) or my favorite, IMGBurn (free on the internet, legal) to burn the .iso file as a disc03:02
madohow about "infra recorder" ?03:03
madodo you know this one?03:03
kyrksaeteroranever heard of it03:03
mado:)03:03
Haircop27hi03:03
kyrksaeterorahello Haircop2703:04
Haircop27This is my first time using the Konversation program03:04
kyrksaeterorait's pretty nifty huh03:04
Haircop27works well!03:04
madowell ... thank you for your help ... i will check a few things now03:04
kyrksaeterorasure does03:04
kyrksaeteroraI'm on mIRC right now but when I'm on my laptop it's got kubuntu so03:05
kyrksaeteroraeverything on kubuntu is big though so I wish my laptop had a higher res =/03:05
Stroudhello03:06
Stroud:)03:06
kyrksaeterorahello Stroud03:06
TannHello03:07
StroudHi kyrksaeterora03:07
Stroudhello back Tann :^)03:07
kyrksaeterorahow are you doing stroud03:07
StroudI'm doing good kyrksaeterora..03:07
kyrksaeteroragod I love my name in konsole03:08
kyrksaeterorait's kyrksaeterora@urgentfury~:03:08
kyrksaeterorakyrksaeterora@urgentfury sounds so cool03:08
kyrksaeterorai feel so geeky03:09
kyrksaeterorasitting here in a t-shirt and underwear configuring my linux box03:09
madowell kyrksaeterora ... i will be back ... thanks for your help ...03:09
kyrksaeteroraand talking about dmca laws03:09
kyrksaeteroracya mado03:09
StroudNo i feel geeky. My OS is Kubunu runing on at compaq evo.03:09
kyrksaeteroracompaq evo? i forget what that is03:10
kyrksaeteroratower/laptop/what03:10
Stroudlaptop03:10
kyrksaeteroraah03:10
kyrksaeteroraI have Kubuntu on my Dell Inspiron 510003:10
kyrksaeteroraupgrading to KDE4.1.2 as we speak03:11
Stroudcool.03:11
kyrksaeteroratalking to you on my desktop, winXP though03:11
kyrksaeteroradual monitors on my desktop03:11
kyrksaeterora>_>03:11
Stroudhum ok.03:11
Stroudgood old IRC.03:11
kyrksaeteroraI loves me some IRC03:12
kyrksaeteroraI wish I could grind it up, put it in a spoon, heat it up, mix it with some other fluids and inject it in my arm03:12
artur_what package should i install to have the libraries curses and ncurses?03:13
Stroud:D03:16
artur_?03:17
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AbsolutamenteAnybody out there?03:18
AbsolutamenteHello?03:19
* cuznt is always with himself03:19
AbsolutamenteFine, Cuznt. Wanna talk?03:19
cuzntno not really.. i was only being smarmy03:19
AbsolutamenteWell, at least I know now that Konversation works. I havent used IRC for 15 yrs.03:20
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AbsolutamenteCan I use characters in the Unicode space here without breaking anything?03:21
AbsolutamenteHello?03:22
AbsolutamenteHello?03:22
cuznt15 years?03:22
cuzntwow03:22
cuznti cant answer that question03:22
* cuznt is not that smart yet03:22
cuznteven though i am 48...03:22
cuznti just started03:22
Stroud:))03:22
Stroudanyone use youtube ?03:23
Stroudlol03:23
AbsolutamenteThat's right. I took Ubuntu 8.10 beta for a test drive, and there it was -- Konversation.03:23
artur_what package should i install to have the libraries curses.h and ncurses.h?03:23
Stroudyes good old Konversation.03:23
cuznt!curses.h03:23
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about curses.h03:23
AbsolutamenteTesting some Unicode here: ščž (s, c and z with haček's)03:23
tickleme_eddiehello everyone03:24
AbsolutamenteLooked fine from here.03:24
Stroudhello tickleme_eddie ... how are you doing ?03:24
tickleme_eddiegood how about ur slef03:24
tickleme_eddie'self03:24
StroudI'm ok..03:24
tickleme_eddie:P03:24
Stroud:D03:24
Stroud1st time in a IRC chat...03:25
AbsolutamenteAre you 48? I thought IRC was aimed for teenagers. At least what it was back in 1994.03:25
tickleme_eddieyea i just installed kurumin and lookin around03:25
AbsolutamenteŠ03:25
tickleme_eddietryin to get use it03:26
cuzntncurses.h has gone missing from the ncurses-5.3-1 packagee.  It's in03:26
cuzntncurses-5.2-8 though.03:26
cuzntyes03:26
cuznti started in 84 with a commadore03:26
AbsolutamenteI began using Linux in late '93.03:26
cuzntthen was given a pile of parts that used to be a p2mx2 or something03:27
Stroudcommadore 64 bit. lol.03:27
cuzntand i am an addict now03:27
* cuznt tries to be a sponge03:27
Stroud: ok..03:27
cuzntsoak it all in03:27
AbsolutamenteA bit boring. I think I'll rather go to bed instead. Where are you from? Europe? Which part of Europe, if so?03:29
Stroudbye I have to log out.03:29
cuzntbye03:29
AbsolutamenteBye!03:29
cuznti am a typical american03:29
AbsolutamenteStill evening at your place, then?03:30
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cuzntquite03:31
tickleme_eddiedoes anyone know how i can reg a nickname03:31
tickleme_eddie?03:31
cuzntyes03:31
tickleme_eddie...03:31
AbsolutamenteJörg Haider died in a car accident for just few days ago.03:31
cuznttype /nickserv register <password><emailaddy>03:32
cuzntbut do not use thew <>'s03:32
tickleme_eddietks03:33
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lpereiraferf04:03
ubuntu__whats the magic for upgrading hardy-kde4 to kubuntu intrepid?04:22
ubuntu__(ie: I borked my install after a dist-upgrade)04:22
ubuntu__I had the no greeter found error, so I apt-get install kdm04:22
ubuntu__now kdm starts but it [crashes? -- blank screen] after logging in04:23
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eightmillionI have intrepid set up with 4 desktops and the only one that shows anything is number 1. All the others are completely black. No panel, no plasmoids, no right click menu, no cashew. Anybody know anything about this?04:35
eightmillionAlso, there's no 'zoom out' on the cashew any more.04:37
memeemeeeanyone tell me how to load the battery applet?04:46
memeemeeesomeone tell me how to load the power applet in x?04:49
memeemeeesorry04:49
mathieuHello05:05
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NamShubI need help with Kubuntu Intrepid...05:05
mr---t-!intrepid05:08
ubottuAlpha Software: Intrepid Ibex is the code name for K/ubuntu 8.10, due October 30th 2008 - #ubuntu+1 for discussion. Kubuntu Intrepid will have KDE 4 as the default Desktop Environment - see  https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuIntrepidVersion | Warning lots of breaking software between now and October!05:08
NamShubWell this is probably "ubuntu" related but kde only because I managed to log in after installing openbox05:09
NamShubhowever kde is broken I get a screen with a bunch of weird characters05:10
memeemeeeanyone know how to load battery applet in X11?05:20
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devo how can i reformat linux without haveing to put the disk into the dvd drive???05:27
devo how can i reformat linux without haveing to put the disk into the dvd drive???05:29
devo  ok let me try to refraze the ?  how can i reinstall linux without any disk's???05:31
manishis there some way to tagg documents in Kubuntu 8.04 : like we do in technoratti or wordpress or for that matter any blog. i want t otagg all me documents and then use a search feature to find relevant docs when needed05:32
manishcan u guys see my request. i am not sure whether my requests are seen in the IRC or not???05:33
manishguys is there something i can do to tag all my documents in KDE 3.5 like we do on blogs05:35
manishok so does that mean, there is nothing to tag docs in ubuntu or kubuntu...right??05:38
corigoCommand line for updating OS (again... got to put it in my notes... bad newbie, bad newbie)05:39
manishdr_willis: u there today ... Do you know someting about this... ?05:39
draikDoes anyone here using Kopete get the following error from Y! Messenger: "Error 1 - Name lookup has failed". I can't seem to re/connect to Yahoo for about a minute of constant retries.05:45
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NamShubOk so I can login in a "KDE/OpenBox" session05:54
NamShubso it really seems the problem is KWin05:54
aaron__trying to setup wacom on ibex I copied the fdi file and can can get some output from wacomdmp on ttyS0  but for the life of me I can't get the two connected05:59
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DarthFrogcorigo: "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" all one one line.06:08
scriptxdoes anyone know how to get s-video output working?06:17
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peterh1977morning all i have a problem with intel iwl3945 wifi anyone here have any idears?06:47
peterh1977i cant spell by the way06:47
peterh1977anyone see what im typing?06:48
peterh1977ping me06:48
peterh1977anyone here??06:50
Tannpeterh1977: I am here06:52
peterh1977any info on intel/PRO wireless?06:55
peterh1977cannot connest06:55
peterh1977connect even06:55
peterh1977am very tired have been up all night reading forum posts06:56
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Ash-FoxWhat could I execute to make a message popup (using say, via a cronjob) from another account to my KDE3 desktop?07:43
ubuntukubuntu sucks07:46
ubuntuyou all fucking suck07:46
ubuntugo fuck yourself07:46
ubuntuill kick your ass irl07:46
ubuntustupid geeks07:46
Tm_Tawww07:47
Tm_Thow sweet07:47
MrDarkUserso /ignore is nice07:47
simulatrolls need love too07:47
Tm_TMrDarkUser: nah07:47
MrDarkUserI just want my wacom tablet to work.07:48
brendan_hry08:03
brendan_hey08:03
brendan_just got wireless working on kubuntu finally =)08:03
Goando we some smart text editor with features like block mode in kubuntu... notepad++/textpad in windows08:18
Goando we have*08:18
elrichwow whuts that?08:23
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jussi01Goan: most people rate kate fairly highly08:34
cryingtuxhello08:35
cryingtuxi want to add ubuntu repos to my debian installation08:35
cryingtux can somebody guide me where can i find  repos.lst?08:36
cryingtuxi need few packages from ubuntu repos08:36
cryingtuxcasper and ubiquity08:36
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nafunuHello, New user of Kubunto looking for documentation.08:39
nafunuAnyone have a URL where I can find a manual?08:39
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Goantks jussi, it is worth it too. :)08:51
Tm_Tnafunu: topic?08:52
nafunuIm looking for a kubuntu manual08:52
nafunuI just installed Kubuntu and Im having trouble installing Secondlife...08:53
Tm_T!secondlife08:53
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about secondlife08:53
Tm_Tinteresting08:53
nafunuIts not a package as are most apps Ive foind08:53
Tm_T!games08:53
ubottuInformation about games on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php08:53
nafunuhmm, thanks08:53
gerardo_ciao09:12
Tm_Tciao tutti, huvitutti juu09:12
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ratchet4620anybody alive in here?09:18
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* Tm_T slaps Ratchet|sleep 09:24
Ash-FoxI am trying to figure out how to send a message to a specific logged in user on a machine running KDE3.9. I have found that I cannot get messages displayed, if I use write or wall. I've tried googling for something for popping up messages. I've tried googling for information on how to do it in dbus and kded but I just find a lot of unrelated content. Any ideas?09:26
kubuntu_mr.jhon09:26
Ash-FoxSorry, KDE3.5.909:27
bentob0xthere was an error while doing the fsck on a HD, in the /var/log/fsck/ folder there are two files: checkfs and checkroot, none of them have the report, where can I find it?09:29
cagnazzoanyone got any information as to why scrollkeeper update is pwning my cpu with 100% usage?09:29
eduardooi09:31
Ash-FoxWhy on Earth is it so difficult to send graphical popup messages in Kubuntu/Debian, in any other distro I use 'write'.09:32
Tm_TAsh-Fox: it isn't difficult, I do the same09:32
Ash-FoxTm_T, it isn't working here, at all.09:33
Ash-Foxwrite: ash-fox has messages disabled <- kwrited just isn't listening for messages09:34
Ash-FoxTm_T, so, how is it working there?09:35
Tm_Tit just works09:36
Ash-FoxTm_T, and you're using kubuntu hardy with kde 3.5.909:38
Tm_Tnope09:38
Tm_TI was using a long time ago09:38
Ash-FoxTm_T, this issue exists on a fresh install of kubuntu hardy.09:39
Tm_Thmm, I have no fresh installs here09:39
Ash-FoxWhat the hell09:50
Ash-FoxWriting to /dev/pts/0 works absolutely fine09:50
Ash-Foxkwrited will popup then, but wall isn't sending messages there?09:50
Tm_TAsh-Fox: user has no rights / isn't in some group ?09:50
Tm_Tor stuff09:50
Ash-FoxTm_T, I can do a 'echo blah >/dev/pts/0', 'echo blah |wall" and 'echo blah| sudo wall' have no effect.09:51
Tm_Tno idea09:52
frank_hello everyone .....10:05
ActionParsnipyo yo yo10:06
frank_does anyone know some Python irc ??10:06
ActionParsniptry in #pyton10:08
ActionParsnip#python10:08
* ActionParsnip wishes he could type10:09
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cryingtuxhello10:10
cryingtux! repo10:11
ubottuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories10:11
cryingtuxwhy is that when i click manage repo on adept , instead of opening the option ro manage repos it just starts reloading repos10:14
cryingtuxsomething looks wrong with adept10:14
ActionParsnipcryingtux: are you running the app with kdesudo ?10:15
cryingtuxi want to add ftp://mirror.anl.gov/pub/ubuntu as it is fastest for me but adept keeps on reloading repos instead of giving me chance to change it10:15
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cryingtuxActionParsnip: kdesudo ?10:16
cryingtuxsorry im not aware of that10:16
cryingtuxim running it from livecd, i wanna set repos first before i commit for installation10:16
ActionParsnipcryingtux: you cant administer a system without root access, sudo gives it for cli apps, kdesudo is for gui apps10:17
ActionParsnipcryingtux: kdesudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list10:17
cryingtuxActionParsnip: i ran adept from livecd10:17
cryingtuxok i  try that10:18
cryingtuxActionParsnip: but why i dont get option in adept to change servers10:18
ActionParsnipcryingtux: just type them at the bottom of that file10:18
cryingtuxthat option seems missing10:18
ActionParsnipcryingtux: ive never used it10:18
ActionParsnipcryingtux: to me it makes no sense when its far simpler to just paste the desired repos into that file10:19
ActionParsnipcryingtux: remember to sudo apt-get update after10:19
cryingtuxActionParsnip: i paste what i have10:19
cryingtux! paste10:20
ubottupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)10:20
ActionParsnipcryingtux: so much easier than using the stupid gui isnt it10:20
cryingtuxhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/60043/10:21
szuper-thali10:21
cryingtuxActionParsnip: please have a look, something is wrong here as i got this error10:21
ActionParsnipwhat error?10:22
cryingtuxhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/60045/10:22
cryingtuxActionParsnip: i guess i added some repos wrongly10:22
ActionParsnipcryingtux: is the system able to access the web?10:22
cryingtuxthis is the main server im trying to add ftp://mirror.anl.gov/pub/ubuntu10:23
cryingtuxActionParsnip: yes im talking to you via the same live session10:23
cryingtuxi can browse10:23
cryingtuxi have messed up something in repo thats why that error10:24
Jahmanhi10:24
ActionParsnipcryingtux: here's my sources.list10:24
ActionParsniphttp://pastebin.com/f4f69723910:24
cryingtuxi will have a look10:24
ActionParsnipcryingtux: then undo what you did and you'll be back to square 110:24
ActionParsnipcryingtux: why dont you do this when the system is installed??10:25
cryingtuxActionParsnip: i will use your list rather if the server is fast :)10:25
cryingtuxi can add keys anyways10:25
cryingtuxActionParsnip: brb pls, and thanks for guidance10:26
ActionParsnipcryingtux: i dunno about fast, it just works for me10:27
deftonehow do i get my menu back  on a window?10:50
omfgitsashar1hey can anybody explain how i install a program from a .tar file10:53
deftonemy konsole window docked itself after i removed the menu bar...dont' want that so i need to change it back10:53
omfgitsashar1can anybody help me out10:53
deftoneomfg do u know how i can re-enable the menu on a window?10:57
omfgitsashar1huh10:58
freaky_tno idea there must be a key combo :D10:59
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deftonedamn i can't figure it out11:01
fritzhi, when a folder icon clicked on left side of the konqueror, dolphin starts!. wanna keep working with konqueror at the moment. that's annoying man, how can i fix that?11:02
deftonehow do you instal ndiswrapper in kubuntu?11:03
deftonei just got away from fedora and that uses yum11:04
deftonewhat does ubuntu use?11:04
jussi01deftone: using adept11:04
emilsedghdeftone: you dont need it11:04
deftonei do for my wireless11:04
totalHello! Help me, I have 2 questions11:04
emilsedghdeftone: go to System Settings->Advanced->Restricted manager11:04
emilsedgh!ask | total11:04
jussi01but yeah, the new broadcom driver is pretty good.11:04
ubottutotal: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)11:04
total(sory my bad english)11:05
emilsedghhi jussio1 :)11:05
jussi01heya emilsedgh11:05
total1. How I can save Icon size in dolphin in every folders?11:05
deftonei don't see restricted manager11:05
jussi01deftone: which version are you running?11:06
deftone8.1011:06
emilsedghtotal: in KDE 4 go to Dolphin->Settings->Configure Dolphin->View Modes11:06
deftonebeta11:06
jussi01deftone: system -> hardware drivers11:06
total2. How I can chenge default folder icon?11:07
total*change11:07
total(KDE 3.5.9)11:07
fritztotal: run kcontrol11:07
deftoneya i have the marvell on a gateway m-675011:08
totalfritz: and?11:08
deftoneso i have to use ndiswrapper...already know what i have to do to install ...just don't know how to get it11:08
jussi01deftone: no, the hardware nmanger should do it for you..11:08
deftoneit told me no proprietary drivers installed on this system11:09
fritztotal: go to: display and themes / icons11:09
jussi01deftone: so anyway, for installing stuff generally, adept is the package management front end for apt11:09
deftoneso something like          adept ndiswrapper   ?11:10
totalfritz: I dont want change theme or style, I want change folder icon only =)11:10
jussi01deftone: no11:10
jussi01deftone: adept is the front end - graphical manager - like synaptic11:11
fritztotal: so you could at there, spesifically.11:11
jussi01!ndiswrapper | deftone11:11
ubottudeftone: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs11:11
deftonei already know how to use ndiswrapper and configure my inf and sys files...what's the command to install ndiswrapper package?11:12
totalfritz: On every folder? No, its so hard. I want change DEFAULT folder icon. =(11:12
deftoneoh nevermind i'll use ndisgtk11:13
jussi01deftone: ahh11:13
jussi01deftone: sudo apt-get install <package-name>11:13
totalfritz: May be default folder icon in specific folder?11:13
total(file)11:13
fritztotal: right click on an folder icon which you know it's default folder, properties / then click on the icon holder button on left-top11:14
deftonei switched over from fedora so i just gotta get used to the slight change in commands11:15
totalfritz: Sank you very mach!11:17
total*Thank11:17
fritzhey i want my rank!11:18
jussi01!apt | deftone11:18
ubottudeftone: APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)11:18
blackflagHello all :) someone using mandriva directory server on ubuntu? Or Fedora directory server ? And can help?11:20
deftonein fedora i had to create the ndiswrapper_drivers folder...is that true for ubuntu as well?11:24
jussi01deftone: no, seriously, go read the how to on the sitee the bot gave you ;)11:27
jussi01!ndiswrapper | deftone11:27
ubottudeftone: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs11:27
byron_hey11:43
byron_I need some help with internet connection???11:43
byron_?11:44
oz_...11:49
Defense|TwinHi, is there a place where i can find a boot.img.gz like here http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/intrepid/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/ but for kubuntu?11:50
oz_hmm11:52
ubuntuhi11:52
oz_hi11:52
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oz_boot.img.gz like here http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/intrepid/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/ but for kubuntu?11:54
jarnosCan digikam have albums in e.g. USB drive?11:55
Defense|Twinoz_: ?11:56
oz_no i don't find11:57
oz_http://www.pendrivelinux.com/ ?11:57
oz_USB Kubuntu 8.04.1 Persistent install from Linux http://www.pendrivelinux.com/2008/05/15/usb-kubuntu-804-persistent-install-from-linux/11:58
oz_ok ?11:58
Defense|Twinno i would like to have a 8.10 image11:58
Defense|Twinhmm maybe i should install ubuntu and afterwards switching to kubuntu11:59
oz_""wget mirrors.gigenet.com/ubuntu/kubuntu/hardy/kubuntu-8.04.1-desktop-i386.iso""11:59
oz_do you install KDE on the USB ?12:00
Defense|Twinno i only want to install from usb not on12:00
oz_yes use CD for install on the USB12:01
byron__can ne1 help with internet connections???12:02
oz_http://www.pendrivelinux.com/2008/05/15/usb-kubuntu-804-persistent-install-from-linux/12:02
Defense|Twinoz_: i have an eeepc, and this eeepc has no cdrom.12:02
oz_but for install ubuntu on your flash driver you do reboot12:02
byron__I am connected to internet through dialup but cant access web pages in browser???12:02
Defense|Twinand i would like o install kubuntu on this eeepc.12:02
oz_ha OK12:02
oz_byron restart12:03
oz_reboot12:03
byron__have done - no luck!12:03
oz_other work ?12:03
Defense|Twinbyron_ ping google.com?12:03
Defense|Twin(dns works?)12:04
byron__sorry noobie how da ping google.com?12:04
oz_Defens|Twin mount iso manuelly12:04
oz_"ping google.com" on the terminal12:05
oz_he go !12:05
oz_...12:05
Defense|Twinlol12:05
oz_what your age ?12:05
oz_ah ok12:05
Defense|Twingoogle answerd with DoS :P12:05
oz_"ping google.com" on the terminal12:05
byron__ok - one sec12:06
deftone7is network manager installed by default?12:06
oz_defens mount iso manuelly12:06
byron__yeah can ping google.com12:06
oz_what your web brower ?12:07
oz_test with firefox12:07
oz_defens French?deutsch?12:07
byron__i am using konqueror12:07
byron__(just installed kubuntu)12:08
Defense|Twinoz_: deutsch12:08
oz_install fireofx12:08
oz_firefox*12:08
byron__just get message12:08
byron__An error occurred while loading http://google.co.uk:12:08
byron__Could not connect to host http://google.co.uk/.12:08
Defense|Twinbyron_: which kubuntu version did you install?12:08
byron__8.04 64bit from CD12:09
oz_10day for 8.10...12:09
oz_64bit woaw12:09
oz_i have 32bit on AMD6412:09
oz_test firefox12:10
byron__i have 32bit cd as well, should i just install this?12:10
byron__where do i get firefox if i cant get to webpage?12:10
Defense|Twinyou can install software with adept12:11
oz_"K"->"??/delete programs"->"firefox"12:11
deftone7o.k i'm got everything loaded for my wireless using ndiswrapper but can't seem to start it up12:12
deftone7any ideas?12:12
oz_""sudo apt-get install firefox""12:12
deftone7i'm connected through my ethernet right now but my little globe dissappeared12:13
oz_reboot after connected with ethernet12:15
oz_and defense ok ?12:15
oz_download iso kubuntu12:15
oz_mount manualy12:15
oz_and install on your flash drive12:16
oz_http://www.pendrivelinux.com/2008/05/15/usb-kubuntu-804-persistent-install-from-linux/12:16
deftone7o.k got my wireless setup.....what's the command to enable it on reboots?12:22
oz_i don't now12:23
byron__OZ - I have downloaded firefox and can now view web pages! Thanks very much for your help12:23
deftonesorry had to log out.....anyone know the command to enable the wireless on rebooting?12:29
ubuntuhi, I am trying to get  in a linux system by booting from the cd, the file system is jfs but it does not get recognized, what module do i need  to load in order to see my jfd partitions?12:29
ubuntujfs12:29
oz_kubuntu don't know jfs i think12:30
oz_fedora core ?12:31
ubuntuin syslog I find this, anybody knows what it means?:12:34
ubuntuubuntu@ubuntu:/var/log$ dmesg | grep sd12:34
ubuntu[   57.109923] Driver 'sd' needs updating - please use bus_type methods12:34
oz_6.06 ?12:36
ubuntuuh?12:36
deftoneanyone know how to enable my wireless after a reboot?12:37
oz_ubuntu, ubuntu 6 or 8 ?12:40
oz_sorry deftone*12:40
oz_deftone see on option of KNetworkManager12:40
deftonei click on knetwork manager but nothing happens.12:46
deftonemaybe it didn't install correctly?12:47
oz_""sudo apt-get install -f" in the terminal12:47
oz_nothing ???12:48
oz_right click, and left click ??12:48
deftonenothing at all....12:48
deftoneright click just gives me the option to remove from the list or add to favorites12:49
oz_i don't know man12:51
kymoiekde412:53
eduardohi all12:56
KillerJinnhow to run windows inside linux?12:59
webasKillerJinn use virtualbox13:02
webasKillerJinn http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ch8X86R6d-g&feature=related i always liked this simple tutorial... very easy :)13:03
oz_hi13:03
oz_virtualbox killer13:04
oz_+1 for webas13:04
webas:D13:09
oz_lol13:10
oz_...13:10
webasthe main big minus for virtualbox is that it doesnt support hardware video card13:11
webasruns only as software :(13:11
KillerJinnk13:15
KillerJinnany app similer to ms paint in windows ?13:15
kymoieKolour13:16
KillerJinnkymoie ? me13:16
kymoieKillerJinn: yes13:16
KillerJinnk13:17
kymoieKillerJinn: make that 'Kolourpaint'13:18
W8TAHhi folks - can someone please point me to a reference on how to "tell Gstreamer to use pulseaudio"?13:20
jussi01W8TAH: thats more a question for #ubuntu13:20
jussi01we dont use either of those over here at kubuntu ;)13:21
W8TAHoh - -ok -- sorry13:21
W8TAHummm -- pulseaudio is the default engine for kubuntu 8.1013:21
oz_KolourPaint !!13:23
oz_i use 3-4 app and the best is kolourpaint in the kubuntu package13:23
JackWinteri'm running descent under wine.  when i come back to the kde desktop all non maximized windows have become small strips in the upper left corner with the title bar off screen.  kubuntu 8.04 no compiz.  any ideas ?13:25
JackWinterdescent in an opengl game13:25
kopertone_hi13:26
kopertone_ :-[13:26
oz_hi13:26
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Dragonathhi, how can I change my screen resolution_13:34
Dragonathactually scratch that13:34
Dragonathturns out I need to reconfigure my x server13:35
oz_"sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop"13:36
Dragonathand that's it?13:37
oz_quit X13:40
Dragonaththen sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?13:41
oz_yes13:41
Dragonathok13:42
oz_note on the paper before13:42
oz_;)13:42
oz_lol........13:42
manishis it possible to get updated mails in thunderbird13:43
oz_i don't know13:44
Dragonathreconfiguring the x server didn't help with my resolution at all13:46
Dragonathah fixed now13:47
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brigante_ehooo kubuntu hahahaha13:51
oz_what ?13:51
brigante_are there kubuntus hahahaa13:51
brigante_nothing man13:51
brigante_just say hello to all13:51
brigante_ok the channel work hah13:51
brigante_the test done:))))))))))13:52
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cryingtux! sources.lst13:56
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about sources.lst13:56
cryingtuxhello13:56
noam_is it advisable to install flash 10 on kubuntu 8.04 manually?13:57
cryingtuxi want to add ftp://mirror.anl.gov/pub/ubuntu as the server for all my apt sources list, how do i do it?13:58
cryingtuxi cant figure out the settings for different sections13:58
noam_cryingtux: adept and synaptic can both do that13:58
cryingtuxnoam_: yea i tried13:58
cryingtuxin adept it is more easy but somehow when i click manage repos in adept, instead of opening the option to select a server it just reloads the already repos14:00
cryingtuxso i cant change anything14:00
noam_then try synaptic, or take a look at /etc/apt/sources.list14:03
noam_how about flash 10? is there any harm in installing it manually?14:03
Under_Wrapsnoam_: I used the flash10.tar.gz from Adobe and installed it in Gutsy14:31
oz_ans ?14:31
noam_i've installed it already, and it seems to work :)14:31
oz_i use flash in the package14:32
Under_Wrapsit works fine here in Opera14:32
noam_it doesn't work in konqueror...14:32
noam_i think it's because the .so files was moved to someplace else on the filesystem14:32
cryingtuxhello14:37
oz_hello14:37
cryingtuxoz_: hello14:37
cryingtuxcan you help with setting repos?14:37
Under_WrapsKonqueror can scan for new plugins, have a look in the settings14:37
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Vista"settings repos" ?14:38
cryingtuxVista: yea, i have some confusion here14:38
Vistawhat is "repos" ?14:38
Under_Wrapsrepositories!!14:38
cryingtux:)14:39
cryingtuxyea14:39
cryingtuxUnder_Wraps: what is the difference bewteen archives and official repos?14:39
Vistaah ok14:39
Under_WrapsI have no idea14:40
cryingtuxif you look here it gives the option to choose main repos14:40
cryingtuxhttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+mirror/mirror.anl.gov14:40
Pici!repos14:40
ubottuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories14:40
cryingtuxbut then there are archives and i was wondering if i can set archives from same server or not?14:41
noam_Under_Wraps: it only plays sounds, video does not work14:41
cryingtuxor the archives have to be only main ubuntu servers?14:41
noam_not just video i mean, display. it shows a gray rectangle14:42
Under_WrapsHave you tried reloading the page or other Flash files14:43
noam_Under_Wraps: huh, weird, it works if you reload14:43
Under_Wrapscryingtux: maybe the 'archives' have older / previous versions, 'official' only has the versions supported in that release, but IDK14:45
cryingtuxits a big confusion14:46
noam_but it's not really usable, is it? i tried playing a youtube video in fullscreen and then it pretty much froze. i killed it from command prompt (ctrl alt f1)14:46
cryingtuxin debian and other distros you just wget......and you get all repos added automatically, but here its so different14:46
Under_WrapsI've only used Kubuntu, Windows and Apple14:47
willluongocryingtux: (K)ubuntu is debian based, the functionality in most ways is the same... what are you trying to do?14:48
cryingtux_willluongo: im just trying to add the server which is fast for me14:51
cryingtux_but the options are so confusing14:51
willluongocryingtux_: So you are trying to change the main repository/14:51
willluongooops, that should have been?14:52
cryingtux_yea14:52
willluongocryingtux_: Just like in debian, add it to /etc/apt/sources.list14:52
cryingtux_i will paste what i have set now14:52
cryingtux_wait 1 sec pls14:52
willluongocryingtux_: ok :)14:52
cryingtux_i guess this time i am all set14:52
StasOnplease HELP!!14:53
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cryingtux_willluongo: first i wanted to get this server14:53
Vistawhat ?14:53
cryingtux_https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+mirror/mirror.anl.gov14:53
StasOnhow to login as root in graphic mode (Ubuntu 6.06)14:53
willluongoStasOn: That is disabled by default, enable it in user options14:54
cryingtux_and after i have added all it looks like this http://paste.ubuntu.com/60123/14:54
StasOnand how to enable it in user options? =) I'm new in linux14:55
cryingtux_and apt-get update loaded all fine, so i guess im good to go with it?14:55
Mr-SStasOn try: sudo su && passwd in konsole to activate the account14:55
cryingtux_willluongo:14:55
cryingtux_http://paste.ubuntu.com/60123/14:55
willluongocryingtux_ ya, if apt-get update didn't fail then you are good to go?14:55
willluongonot a question, I am just punctuation impaired today lol14:56
StasOnthx. I'll try14:56
cryingtux_i guess i am . lets hit the repos and see if i get any stuff14:56
Mr-SStasOn : sudo su will give you root shell , passwd will prompt you to setup a password14:57
Vistabye all14:57
StasOnBut I need root in graphic mode, not only in shell =)14:57
Mr-SWhen booting to GUI Login, you should then be able to use : Login root14:58
cryingtux_willluongo: i ran apt-get update once again, double check, it bring no errors , so i will do some apt-get upgrade14:58
Mr-SStasOn why do you need root account ?14:58
cryingtux_thanks, k-ubuntu people, i need to get a full upgrade to kde 3.5.10, kde 4 is not for me, nah nah !15:00
StasOnI need to setup my network, install drivers and programs.15:00
geekcryingtux_:15:00
Mr-Syou do not need root access for those15:00
Mr-SNetweork: wireless or wired ?15:00
geekyou might needs backports for that. then just install kubuntu-desktop15:00
cryingtux_geek: backports?15:01
StasOnIn GUI login windows I try to login as root..But linux says me? that it is inpossible =)15:01
cryingtux_do i need to enable that repos as well?15:01
StasOnnetwork wired)15:01
willluongoStasOn: just use alt f2, then kdesu whatever gui setup upi are ;pplomg fpr15:01
geekcryingtux_: IIRC 3.5.10 is on backports15:01
Mr-SYep because ubuntu uses a different approach.15:01
geekso yea, you need to15:01
willluongosetup gui you are looking for even15:01
Mr-SInstalling software : apt-get repository15:01
geekapt-get appname you mean ;p15:02
cryingtux_geek: ok i will do that too15:02
Mr-Snetwork, simple fire up the network tool ( Knetwork if i am not mistaken)15:02
cryingtux_thanks again15:02
Mr-Syep sorry , typo15:02
StasOnthanks15:02
Mr-SStasOn you are using Kubuntu or Ubuntu ?15:03
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Frekuthis is the kubuntu channel15:05
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ghettoblasterhi all ;)15:06
Mr-S.15:13
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Skii does anyone know how to take a dvd movie and turn it into a avi???15:16
Skii does anyone know how to take a dvd movie and turn it into a avi???15:17
geniiAsk and run, ask and run. People are so impatient.15:17
trappistit's true.  doesn't bother me though, unless they take off in the middle of me typing to them.15:18
trappistlike Skii.15:18
geniitrappist: I was going to recommend acidrip to him just then15:18
trappistI haven't tried acidrip.  I was gonna say DVD::Rip15:20
noam_flash 9 works a lot better, performance wise :/15:20
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ubuntu__hi, somebody managed to break in my server, I have changed already each user password and the root password, what more should I check to make sure they have not left some back door?15:32
geniiubuntu__: Run a rootkit check as well15:32
ubuntu__how do I do that?15:33
trappistubuntu__: first, how do you know someone broke in?  second, do you know how they broke in?  and last, do you know if the attacker was able to gain root access?15:33
trappist!info chkrootkit15:33
ubottuchkrootkit (source: chkrootkit): Checks for signs of rootkits on the local system. In component main, is optional. Version 0.47-1.1ubuntu0.1 (hardy), package size 273 kB, installed size 756 kB15:33
ubuntu__all I could see was I could not log in anymore with my user (root was still active), the latest auth.log was one week old, the mail service stopped working15:34
trappistubuntu__: if the attacker had root access at any time, the only thing to do is scrap the server and reinstall.  you can't trust any of your binaries.15:34
trappistubuntu__: are you sure your hard drive didn't just fill up?15:35
ubuntu__yup15:35
ubuntu__the server ahs been mostly idle, serving mail for two people15:35
trappistubuntu__: do you mean the contents of auth.log are a week old, or the timestamp on the file was a week old?15:35
ubuntu__the point is I have no way to  find out how they got in15:35
ubuntu__I managed to log in that server today and I had today's file and the previous one was a week old15:36
ubuntu__meaning, I guess , somebody deleted that file for a week or so15:36
trappistubuntu__: one thing to do with or without a breakin is to set up ssh to do key-only authentication - no passwords15:36
geniiAlso move ssh off of 2215:37
trappistubuntu__: that's not necessarily a valid assumption.  a lot of things could have gone wrong, and it's possible the auth log is old because nobody's been logging in15:37
ubuntu__well, at least the cron logs should be there15:37
trappistgenii: I call that security through obscurity.  it might slow somebody down, but it won't be hard to find with a port scan.15:37
geniitrappist: True. But most of the login-bots look by default to 2215:38
trappistubuntu__: unless syslog failed, /var temporarily filled up, or several other possibilities15:38
geniiYes, it happens sometimes that /var gets full or corrupted. Then the system gets in aloop trying to write to /var/log that the /var is messy, etc etc15:38
ubuntu__well, I have just circumstancial evidence, as I said, my login was not working, and two mail user logins were not working either, that would be three password screwed up15:39
ubuntu__all at once15:39
ubuntu__but not the root password15:39
trappistplus, if you're doing key-only authentication and you keep your software up to date, there's no known way to compromise ssh, even with brute force15:39
Frekuor a defective keyboard15:39
ubuntu__I will read something about key-only autentication, at the moment I do not   know waht you are feferring to15:39
trappistubuntu__: it might have nothing to do with passwords - logins can fail for lots of reasons that have nothing to do with an attack.  but if someone did manage to change those passwords, they had root access, and you can't trust that server anymore15:40
trappistso it's worth some more effort to try to find out what really happened15:40
ubuntu__what should I look for?15:41
ubuntu__I am in uncharted territory15:41
trappistubuntu__: try to find the most recent syslog entry in /var/log/messages and/or /var/log/syslog before things went quiet15:41
trappistif the server's been up the whole time (no reboots since the problem started) also run dmesg and look for evidence of filesystem damage15:42
geniiYou can see if password changes were issued by shell by looking at .bash_history    of each user15:42
ubuntu__they only unix user is mine, the others are virtual users just for mail purpose and in my history there is no such thing15:43
geniiIf they erased logs, they don't always think to remove the history of their commands issued to to it15:43
genii*to do it15:43
trappistubuntu__: also check your mail logs - you should be able to find out there whether users couldn't log in because the password was changed or if there was some other failure15:43
ubuntu__I'll be back, I need to restart this session, one sec15:44
trappistagain, filesystem damage and temporarily full partitions are the most likely culprits15:44
sunyuhello everyone~15:46
dwidmannhi15:47
bentob0xanybody has performance issues on KDE 4 without using the desktop effects?15:49
SSJ_GZbentob0x: nVidia users may well have.15:49
bentob0xhmm15:50
bentob0xI do have an nvidia15:50
bentob0xis it better to use non-proprietary drivers?15:50
geniiWhen possible15:50
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SSJ_GZbentob0x: Many people claim that VESA is faster than nvidia for KDE4.  VESA!15:51
ubuntu__according to the log the last thing the pc has done was to update the antivirus15:55
ubuntu__I am looking at /var/log/messages and for three days the only thing I can find is  Oct 18 16:15:52 stakhanov -- MARK --15:58
ubuntu__and one Oct 18 06:52:12 stakhanov syslogd 1.5.0#1ubuntu1: restart15:58
ubuntu__I dis not ask the system to restart15:59
ubuntu__does any of this point to a break in?16:00
trappistubuntu__: not definitively, by any means16:00
trappist-- MARK -- goes into the logs so you know syslog is still running, when it doesn't have anything else to talk about16:01
ubuntu__what the heck is that  -- MARK --  ? is seems there to cover something16:01
ubuntu__ok16:01
ubuntu__one of you guys were mentioning a way to do a rootkit check, coul dyou be o kind to tell me (again) how to do it? I lost the history16:01
vonkleistubuntu__, just for the record... are you running kubuntu on your server?16:01
ubuntu__no, I am typing currently from another pc where I booted the live cd16:02
ubuntu__that is the kubuntu you see16:02
ubuntu__the server is an ubuntu server16:02
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ubuntu__one of you guys were mentioning a way to do a rootkit check, coul dyou be o kind to tell me (again) how to do it? I lost the history16:05
genii!info chkrootkit16:05
ubottuchkrootkit (source: chkrootkit): Checks for signs of rootkits on the local system. In component main, is optional. Version 0.47-1.1ubuntu0.1 (hardy), package size 273 kB, installed size 756 kB16:05
ubuntu__ah, another strange thing I failed to mention, another thing that was broken was the xterm program, I had to reinstall it16:06
trappistubuntu__: I think you should be looking for evidence of filesystem damage16:08
ubuntu__I understand where you are coming from16:09
trappistbest way to do that is with fsck, and you'll have to take partitions offline for that.  your best bet might be to just reboot, so if there are filesystems with errors they'll be checked automatically.16:12
geniiHe's on livecd so could fsck them safely16:12
trappistI would check dmesg before rebooting though, because it could have valuable info that will be lost when you reboot16:12
genii(unless currently mounted rw)16:12
trappistgenii: ah I thought he was running the livecd on a different box16:12
geniitrappist: Perhaps, actually. Didn't really specify16:13
ubuntu__I am running the livecd on a different box, the system is currently up and running currently16:14
ubuntu__actually I tried the livecd on that one, but I could not mount any partition16:14
trappistubuntu__: if you boot the livecd on the server, don't try to mount the partitions - try to fsck them16:15
ubuntu__partitions are jfs on the server16:15
ubuntu__don't you have a different fsck for non ext2 file systems? I believe I remember there was a special one for the reiserfs16:16
trappistfsck auto-detects the filesystem and will spawn fsck.jfs (or you could just run fsck.jfs)16:17
trappistat least, that's what *should* happen16:18
ubuntu__I'll do that run16:19
trappistthat's also assuming jfsutils is on the livecd16:19
geniiIf not you can install them in package manager, it will work after that16:21
trappistthat's a pretty amazing feature of the livecd that I didn't know about16:22
ubuntu__are you saying I can install a package while running the livecd?16:22
geniiYes16:22
geniiSo long as the packages you install do not exceed the amount of available space in the ramdisk it's running from16:23
ubuntu__heat off to those one who designed such a modular system16:23
ubuntu__hat16:24
ubuntu__on a different subject16:25
ubuntu__on this system had xp on one hd and kubuntu on the other and grub let me dualboot. I have installed vista64 over yc but that erased my boot sector and now, if I tell the system manually to start from the linux HD that one does not start. how do I reinstall grub on the boot sector?16:27
genii!grub16:27
ubottuGRUB is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - GRUB how-tos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto16:27
geniiThe ubottu knows all ;)16:28
ubuntu__I am using the guide and I found the stage one at  (hd0,0), I guess I  should then say root root (hd0,0) at the grub prompt? (instead than copying what is in the guyde)16:35
ubuntu__guide16:35
ubuntu__ok rebooting, let'shope I did good16:37
kyrksaeterorahey everybody =]16:38
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GaMbi_DKanyone have any good ideas for getting winds (movies) onto second screen (Separated X screen) - GaMbi16:43
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vapashosanybody who knows how to enable wireless interface?16:46
jtismevapashos, what manufacturer16:47
vapashosthe manufacter is16:49
vapashos02:05.0 Network controller [0280]: Broadcom Corporation BCM4306 802.11b/g Wireless LAN Controller [14e4:4320] (rev 03)16:49
mrunagican anyone help me figure out why firefox starts out in offline mode?16:50
jtismevapashos,  go here  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2568316:52
jtismevapashos, broadcom's are problematic16:52
vapashosi know but i had enabled this in the past16:52
vapashosbut i cant remember how16:53
jtismevapashos, interesting what release of ubuntu16:53
mrunagiwhen is hte next release of kubuntu16:54
ghettoblaster32end October16:54
ghettoblaster32<-- still tryin to get warm with KDE 4.116:56
jtismemrunagi, 31 october according to the ibex sched16:56
tdnHow do I change user details on a system user? (The ones that I am asked when running adduser and that is stored in /etc/passwd)16:56
geniitdn: man usermod16:56
tdngenii, thanks. It told me chfn.16:58
geniitdn: That changes your "finger" info16:59
bentob0xwhen you disable the nvidia proprietary drivers, you need to restart X only or the entire machine?17:00
geniiSince it uses kernel extensions, the whole box17:01
bentob0xk17:01
bentob0xdoes that plan to be treated like a module?17:01
bentob0xto avoid a full restart?17:01
raymearshi everyone, i've just upgraded to intrepid... from hardy kde4-remix and strigi doesn't run. (it didn't run on hardy either). any idea why? i tried executing /usr/bin/strigidaemon and i get a "connection error (dbus-launch failed to autolaunch d-bus session. no protocol specifie)"17:04
tdngenii, yes. That is what I want.17:09
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GaMbi_DKHi guys.. I need my TV-out!! with "separated X screen" without xinerama: I cant drag to windows to my TV.. with xinerama: Compiz effects dosn't work... Twinview: dont allow me to change desktop without changing TV desktop (removing the video im watching).. also new files to desktop jumps to TV.....    So Id like a "Separate X screen" that allows me to get windows(movies etc) from my monitor and onto my TV... any ideas?17:09
KillerJinnany app that works very best for yahoo messenger in linux. it seems yahoo messenger does not work by wine? or is there a substitute to use yahoo. i want all or most features of original yahoo messenger , like webcam and voice chat?17:10
geniiraymears: Intrepid is not yet supported here. Try instead #ubuntu+117:11
raymearsgenii: thanks17:11
sparrKillerJinn: kopete should have those features17:11
KillerJinnhm17:14
KillerJinnpidgin, kopete, empathy17:15
KillerJinnwhich one has most features?17:15
geniikopete should have most of the features which you are wanting from a yahoo client17:15
geniipidgin has no webcam or voice for instance17:16
KillerJinngenii i think it doesnt have webcam17:16
KillerJinnoriginal yahoo messenger wont work with wine?17:18
geniiKillerJinn: Check the wine appdb for that17:19
geniiKillerJinn: http://appdb.winehq.org/17:19
KillerJinngenii link?17:19
* genii sips17:19
KillerJinnk17:19
geniiKillerJinn: I see now a *nix version of yahoo messenger is available. http://in.docs.yahoo.com/messenger/download/unix.html17:21
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KillerJinnhm\17:22
GaMbi_DKI get delay on my typing some times(now).. is this a known problem and what can i do abut it?17:27
KillerJinnAn error occurred while loading http://in.docs.yahoo.com/messenger/download/unix.html:17:28
KillerJinnUnknown host in.docs.yahoo.com17:28
KillerJinngenii ^17:28
geniiInteresting17:29
geniiKillerJinn: Perhaps try: http://in.dld.yahoo.com/i/in/messenger/linux/debian_sid/ymessenger_0.99.17-1_i386.deb17:30
simon__how to get a mix box for the programs?17:30
simon__how to get a mix box for the programs?17:30
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simon__how to get a mix box for the programs?17:35
simon__how to get a mix box for the programs?17:35
geniiWhat should this "mix box" do?17:36
simon__how to get a mix box for the volum for the programs?17:36
simon__sry i dosn't thinking when i writing!17:36
geniiYou should usually have a speaker icon in bottom right, this is where volume normally is set17:37
simon__like in vista i want to controll the volum for one epic/program!17:37
geniisimon__: Applications which play your music or videos like Amarok or Kaffeine have their own volume controls too17:39
simon__Yes but the i are on internett. eks> How to make the max volum 60%?17:40
geniisimon__: Click on speaker icon and adjust volume there17:41
simon__yes, but if i want a difference for 2 programs?  Multi!17:42
geniisimon__: Currently no such feature as this exists yet17:44
simon__ok, but how can i get Linux to make it?17:45
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KillerJinnAn error occurred while loading http://in.docs.yahoo.com/messenger/download/unix.html:17:45
KillerJinnUnknown host in.docs.yahoo.com17:45
KillerJinngenii ^17:45
KillerJinngenii sory.  retype17:46
geniiKillerJinn: Perhaps try the URL for the direct download I gave earlier, which is: http://in.dld.yahoo.com/i/in/messenger/linux/debian_sid/ymessenger_0.99.17-1_i386.deb17:46
geniiKillerJinn: Incidentally that url you are getting "unknown host" for works fine here17:47
KillerJinngenii hmm. cant get it.17:51
geniiKillerJinn: Looks like you may have some DNS issue17:51
KillerJinnhm17:51
KillerJinnhow to dl in command line>17:51
KillerJinn?17:51
geniiusing the commandline STILL won't work if your dns entries are not good17:52
KillerJinnhm17:54
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Tm_T!away | Nasj18:06
ubottuNasj: You should avoid noisy away messages in a busy channel like #ubuntu, or other Ubuntu channels; it causes excessive scrolling which is unfair to new users. Use the command "/away <reason>" to set your client away silently.  See also «/msg ubottu Guidelines»18:06
geniiTm_T: Hiya18:07
Tm_Thi hi genii18:07
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GaMbi_DKIs there a way to check version before downloading/installing? (command used apt-get install EnvyNG-gtk)18:22
geniiapt-cache policy <packagename>18:23
mrunagianyone know why firefox starts in offline mode?18:23
geniiBut that will just tell you the packagenames version, not in this case the version of drivers it wants to install18:23
GaMbi_DKthx mrunagi18:24
DarthFrogmrunagi: In Firefox, bring upt the URL "about:config" and in the Filter, search for "online".  I'm not positive, but I think that's it.18:24
mrunagii looked at all those on the forums and theyre set to what they said it needed to be i thought maybe there was some rain dance i have to do before it works lol18:25
manishi have successfullt installed zimbra in kubuntu but unfortunately deleted the desktop shortcut. now am unable to launch it. how do i start zimbra now18:25
PhilRodis it in the k menu?18:27
geniimanish: Do you still have a link for it in Kmenu...Internet   ?18:27
DarthFrog!zimbra18:27
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about zimbra18:27
geniiIf so rightclick and Add To Desktop18:28
manishya but it is for the installer18:30
chfwiggumgd evening all18:30
manishginii: it asks me again for the language selection option so i did not go ahead18:31
sigma_how do you print multiple slides on a page in oo impress?18:32
geniimanish: Try  alt-f2  then:  zimbra18:32
manishalt-F2 does not give me anything so i tries to run the app from run command18:33
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manishbut it said "Could not find the specified command18:33
manishgenii: so what else can i try18:34
geniimanish: It may be tried zdesktop    instead of zimbra18:35
manishGenii: still the same reply "could not find the specified command"18:36
DarthFrogmanish: You could bring up Synaptic, search for zimbra, and look for installed files in Properties.  That should tell you what the executable is called.18:36
geniiDarthFrog: Good tip18:37
blackflag!directory server18:37
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)18:37
DarthFroggenii: I've had to do it myself before. :-)18:37
blackflag!ebox18:37
ubottuebox is a web-based GUI interface for administering a server. It is designed to work with Ubuntu/Debian style configuration management. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/eBox18:37
manishso how do i know what is the installer called18:38
geniiThe package name should be zdesktop18:39
DarthFrogmanish: You might also get useful info in /usr/share/doc/zimbra.  The directory might not be called zimbra, but it will have that word in its name.18:39
manishok in synaptic there isone entry by the name zimbra and it is installed and it is called zdesktop18:39
DarthFrogmanish: Where is it located?  In /usr/bin?18:40
DarthFrogIf you're in Synaptic via sudo, you could always force a re-install.18:40
manishhow do i find that18:41
deftoneis there a way to change the menu button in my panel?18:41
Kopfgeldjaegerhi18:42
Kopfgeldjaegerhow can i set the background picture in kmediafactory? i just stays black for me...18:43
manishwhat is situated in usr/bin18:44
manishi see zimbra direcotry at two places18:45
DarthFrogmanish: Executable files are mostly in /usr/bin.18:45
manishno its not in usr/bin18:45
manishthere is one zimbra direcotry with many sub direcotries in /home18:46
DarthFrogmanish: Those will be your data files.18:46
JackWinteri'm running an opengl game under wine.  when i come back to the kde desktop all non maximized windows have become small strips in the upper left corner with the title bar off screen.  kubuntu 8.04 no compiz.  any ideas ?18:50
manishso now what do i do to launch it18:50
manishDarthFrog: what do i do now18:51
DarthFrogmanish: Personally, I'd re-install it.18:51
_mary_kate_where did the KDE 1 kwin style go in 8.04?18:51
manishagain i would have to download all the mail and the settings i did for the whole day18:52
manishas the connection os very slow here18:52
manishlike 5 kbps or something @ that18:52
geniimanish: Did you look yet in your trash for the desktop shortcut?18:54
DarthFrogthere's a good thought.18:54
manishya there is nothing18:56
manishi tried that the first think18:56
manishthing18:56
manishbut i dont know what went wrong18:56
manishthere was an icon im my awn-navigator also18:57
manishits also gogne18:57
manishgone18:57
|_VoiD_|hello19:02
LDSHDWhey19:02
LDSHDWtartteeen apuva :S19:03
|_VoiD_|i have kubuntu 8.10 .... i would like to change the file associations back tu default... how do i do that?19:03
genii|_VoiD_|: Ask in #ubuntu+1 please19:03
LDSHDWumm19:03
LDSHDWi need help with my monitors19:03
LDSHDWI did install kubuntu yesterday19:03
LDSHDW8.4019:04
LDSHDWand  I have 3 monitors and 2 video cards19:04
manishgenii: u still there19:04
LDSHDWand I cant apply them that it would work19:04
LDSHDWcan anyone help me ?19:04
manishany suggestion for me to regain it19:04
geniimanish: Reinstall it19:04
manishi dont want to install it again19:04
manishplease19:04
deftonemy wireless won't automatically start on reboot.19:05
|_VoiD_|manish: whats your problem?19:06
DarthFrogmanish: When you come back later today or tomorrow looking for help with your zimbra problem, please be sure to mention that you were advised to re-install the programme and that you refused to do so.19:06
ekI have a strange issue I haven't seen before and I can't seem to dig anything up online about it (Not sure what key words to use maybe?)19:07
DarthFrogSo you can not waste anyone else's time with it, trying the things you've already tried.19:07
manishi dont refuse sir19:07
manishi just dont want to waste my whole days work19:07
ekBut, when my Kubuntu 8.04.1 AMD64 (fresh install) comes back from screensaver/energy saver, the resolution and FPS is b0rk3d.19:07
manishthats the only request i am making to you experts19:07
ekAnyone know if this is common, if there's a fix, or where I can read about this?19:08
DarthFrogWell, both genii and I have tried to help  you.  But our suggestions haven't worked.  It sounds to me like you've royally screwed up your installation of that programme.19:08
manishok then if that is what you suggest as the last option i will do so19:09
manishthanks very much for you patience and help19:09
DarthFrogmanish: Good luck.19:09
ekmanish: They aren't asking you to re-install Kubuntu. But to simply re-install whatever program is causing your problems.19:09
manishsorry to trouble u so much19:09
deftonewireless won't start after reboot19:10
DarthFrogdeftone: Run knetworkmanager.19:10
ekdeftone: The drivers aren't coming up/not available? Or it won't automatically connect to an access point?19:10
manishya actually why i was so bothered was that i spent my whole day downloading my mails at 5 kbps speed now again i will have to do it19:10
manishthat was the only reason : i dint mean to hurt someone19:10
DarthFrogmanish: Probably not.  You need to re-install zimbra, not get your mail again.  All your mail will still be in /home/$USER/zimbra (or whereever it is now).  you will only have to reconfigure the programme.19:11
manishis that so  :)19:12
manishthanks very much for this information19:12
DarthFrogmanish: And to make sure, make a copy of the zimbra data directory first!19:12
deftonewlano won't start unless i use sudo modprobe ndiswrapper19:12
manishi will just reinstall it and let you know about  the result19:12
DarthFrogThat way, if it does delete your mail (which it shouldn't) then you can simply copy it back.19:12
deftonealso Knetwork Manager won't start for me at all....think it's a bug or something19:13
SlaughtaHEY19:13
|_VoiD_|deftone: try install "wicd" its better than knetworkmanager19:17
deftonehow do i download it or is it installed by default?19:17
DarthFrogdeftone: Edit the file /etc/modules and put "ndiswrapper" in there.  You'll need to do it with sudo privileges.  Then it will be loaded on boot.19:18
heiner_Does anyone knows why VMware workstation does not start?19:18
manishDarthFrog: so do i need to just replace the new directories with the old backups??19:18
heiner_any known issues?19:18
DarthFrogmanish: Try it and see.19:18
DarthFrogheiner_: Have you run vmware-config.pl?19:19
manishyup i will be right back19:19
deftoneDarth....how do i do that? lol19:19
heiner_DarthFrog: vmware-config.pl? Hm....not yet :) I'll try19:19
|_VoiD_|deftone: http://wicd.sourceforge.net/download.php19:19
|_VoiD_|the part installing in ubuntu19:20
heiner_DarthFrog: No, there is no vmware-config.pl19:20
DarthFrogdeftone: "kdesu kate /etc/modules"19:21
DarthFrogheiner_: Which version of VMWare did you install?19:21
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heiner_Workstation 6.5.019:22
DarthFrogheiner_: Ah.  that's the version I have installed.  I *really* like it, Unity mode is great.  I'm running it in Intrepid and, as I recall, the configuration was graphical.19:23
deftonewhat's kdesu kate ?19:23
DarthFrogdeftone: Press Alt-F2 and type that command (or cut 'n paste) in the entry field.19:24
heiner_DarthFrog: I had worked with it on Ubuntu until last month! And i think that the download was still for free.... . No i've installed it on Kubuntu 8.10 and it's not free any more :(.19:25
ekAnyone running Kubuntu 8.04.1 AMD64 on an HP/Compaq with an nVidia card by chance?19:25
heiner_And the trial won't run too!19:25
senfmanre19:25
_mary_kate_heiner_: vmware server is the free one19:25
deftoneah o.k19:26
heiner_mary_kate: Am i allowed to install every VM?19:26
gambianyone who can tell me why my graphic is acting up when I move my windows? (only think it is when moving vertical)19:26
mjbt38driver19:27
DarthFrogheiner_: It sounds like VMWare is looking for a license and not finding it.19:27
_mary_kate_heiner_: i'm not sure what you mean19:27
Slaughta8=319:27
senfmanMy KOrganizer still crashes since the last update, when I want to add a new appointment. how can i fix this?19:27
DarthFrogsenfman: Have you restarted KOrganizer since then?19:28
senfmanThis crah does not occur (at least not that often), if I delete myself as the default participant in the appointment19:28
senfmanDarthFrog: yes, I restarted the whole pc several times.19:28
DarthFrogsenfman: Sounds like a bug.19:28
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senfmanDarthFrog: who cares. I just had the show effect. It didn't occur right now. maybe it helps, restarting several times. *g*19:29
Catullosalve gente19:30
senfmandarthFrog: which is actually a pity, because I can't reproduce it.19:30
heiner_mary_kate: VMware Workstation: Run and make any virtual machines you want!19:31
heiner_mary_kate: WMware Server too?19:31
DarthFrogsenfman: Sorry, I'm out of ideas.19:31
_mary_kate_heiner_: yes, i think so.  it's a full version, you can do whatever you like with it19:31
genii!it| Catullo19:31
ubottuCatullo: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (click col tasto destro sul nome del canale per entrare)19:31
senfmanDarthFrog: No problem. So am I. I hope it to happen again, maybe i'll be able to reproduce it an write a bugfix.19:31
heiner_Thank you mary_kate. I'll try it out now.. . Thank you :)19:32
_mary_kate_heiner_: you might also look at VirtualBox.  it's nicer than VMware Server for desktop use, and it's free19:32
_mary_kate_heiner_: http://www.virtualbox.org/19:32
CatulloOK19:32
heiner_Thank you for the link mary_kate! Never tried it out, but often heard about it! Great! I'll try THIS out :D19:33
deftonethat didnn't work Darth19:34
heiner_mary_kate: IT#s just 30 MB's? VMware got 101...19:34
keyzeki use editi "vi" how i can delete text in this editor ??19:35
ekkeyzek: The 'x' key will delete single characters.19:35
keyzekoki thx i check this key :)19:36
ekThis screensaver stuff is frustrating... I can't for the life of me figure out why its choking!19:36
keyzekkey 'x' it's not working :(19:37
DarthFrogek: So turn it off.19:37
keyzekanything else ?19:37
DarthFrogkeyzek: Press Esc first.19:37
ekDarthFrog: And just leave my screen on 24/7? Not a very good workaround...19:37
keyzekyes19:38
DarthFrogkeyzek: And if you have ask that kind of question, vi is not for you. :-)  It's a very powerful and truly excellent editor but it is not particularly easy to start with.19:38
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DarthFrogek: Why not?  Modern CRTs and LCDs don't need screensavers.  Just turn your monitor off at night.19:39
ekDarthFrog: There is no way to turn it off. Its a laptop.19:39
ekIf I log out and log back in (To X) everything is fine. But returning from screensaver/power saver, the X windows is shrunk, smashed into the corner, flickering and EXTREMELY slow.19:40
ekAlmost as if the video card drivers are b0rk3d.19:41
ekI'm using the same drivers on another laptop (x86) and that's fine though. So, I'm wondering if this is AMD64 related.19:41
keyzekthx thsi key working  ;)19:41
ekAlthough, my 64 desktops seem to be fine also.19:41
ekJust this single laptop that's having issues.19:42
ekCould be BIOS related too I suppose. I should probably dig around in there.19:42
keyzekand i have one problem19:42
DarthFrogkeyzek: Why are you using vi?19:43
DarthFrog!vi19:43
ubottuText Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), mousepad (Xfce4) - Terminal-based: nano, vi/vim, emacs - For HTML/CSS editors, see !html - For programming editors and IDE, see !code19:43
keyzeki write something and i want close this program but i don't want save anything how i can exit for this program19:43
DarthFrogkeyzek: Esc, !q19:44
keyzekin my school i must working in this program19:44
manishgenii: DarthFrog: yeppie  I got it right.19:44
DarthFrogkeyzek: Then install the vim-full package and go through the help system, would be my advice.19:44
DarthFrogOnce you learn vi, you might never want to use any other editor again. :-)19:45
manishduring reinstallation it said it detected a system already so it would be uninstalled but the user contents would not be touched19:45
manishand all my mails are intact there19:45
keyzekbut i cant install this i working in server19:45
DarthFrogmanish: So you're a happy camper?19:45
deftoneDarth: I'm not sure how to add what you spoke of to etc/ndiswrapper19:45
manishas far as icon is concerned it is situated in linux directory in the zimbra directory (in case some one has the same trouble again)19:46
manishthanks for your time and patience19:46
geniikeyzek:   :wq19:46
manishhave a good night19:46
DarthFrogdeftone: Just edit the file with root privileges.  Add "ndiswrapper" on a line by itself.19:46
keyzekDarthFrog !q is not working19:46
DarthFroggenii: No "w", he didn't want to save his changes.19:47
geniikeyzek:   :q!19:47
DarthFrogOh right, I forgot the : :-)19:47
keyzekoki thx is working19:47
deftoneedit what file?19:47
DarthFrogdeftone: Go back and read what I originally told you.19:47
DarthFrogdeftone: and the file is /etc/modules.19:48
DarthFrogdeftone: "kdesu kate /etc/modules"19:49
DarthFrogdeftone: Press Alt-F2 and type that command (or cut 'n paste) in the entry field.19:49
deftonethat does nothing for me....the little window just goes away19:51
DarthFrogthen do it at the command line and use "sudo" instead of kdesu.  If you're running Intrepid beta, it's kdesudo, not kdesu.19:51
Elmnassorry the net19:52
deftonesweeet!19:52
deftonethank sooo much Darth19:53
DarthFrognp19:53
deftonei'm learning19:53
deftoneit's the little things that get me19:53
DarthFrogBe sure to pass along what you learn to others.19:54
deftoneoh i do19:54
DarthFrogThat's the way to pay back the people who help you.19:54
LDSHDWook19:54
LDSHDWI need help with my monitors19:54
Elmnascan someone help me to install gefoce 8800 please19:54
LDSHDWCan anyone help me out ??19:54
DarthFrogElmnas: Run "jockey-kde" and enable the Nvidia drivers.19:57
LDSHDWI have 2 monitors and none of them really works with my 8.40 kubuntu19:57
Elmnasok19:58
Elmnasthey are enabled19:59
Elmnasbut I have wrong resolution19:59
Elmnas:(19:59
ElmnasI cant get higher darth frog why?20:00
DarthFrogElmnas: No idea. Do you have kranr installed?  Play around with that and see what you can do.20:01
DarthFrog!krandr20:01
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about krandr20:01
Elmnaskranr?20:01
DarthFrogElmnas: krandr, sorry, not kranr.20:01
BigBearis xfs stable20:02
Elmnaswhats that?20:02
DarthFrog!Randr20:02
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about randr20:02
geniiI think krandr was removed20:02
DarthFroggenii: It's in Intrepid.20:02
ElmnasdarthFrog how do I disconect my tv monitor20:03
DarthFrogPull the plug.20:03
ElmnasI did20:04
Elmnasbut I still have wrong resolution20:04
ElmnasI have just 1400 x 1050 I Have anyway always 1680 x105020:04
comeditafter my updates have been done today my smb4k won't start up anymore20:07
ElmnasDarthfrog how do I fix this problem i have to low resolution20:08
comeditstrange thing is that a similar kubuntu runs without any problem smb4k20:08
DarthFrogElmnas: Please don't keep asking the same question.  I told you to use krandr.20:08
Elmnaswhats that?20:08
Elmnasno answear :S20:08
comediti have completely reinstalled it but that does not help20:09
DarthFrogTime to exercise your google-fu! :-)20:09
deftoneHow can i change the start menu button?20:09
deftoneat first it had the kde menu button then later i noticed it just looks like and arrow now20:09
DarthFrogdeftone: Did you try right-clicking on the icon and changing its properties?20:09
deftonewow...is it that simple?   lmfao...sorry i feel retarded now20:10
comeditanybody a clue how find a solution to this smb4k issue20:10
deftonek it doesn't have properties listed there...only the home folder does20:11
cuzntwait you want to change how the button looks deftone?20:12
deftoneya i do20:12
deftonelooks kinda gay right now20:12
cuzntfor shame20:13
* cuznt says kde is not ghey at all20:13
cuzntso there :p20:13
comedit!smb4k20:14
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about smb4k20:14
GaMbi_DKcompiz-0.7.8.tar.gz how do I install this file I just downloaded?20:14
cuzntand i aint go no idea no how how to do it...20:14
deftonei like kde just not the button at the moment..don't know how it changed. would've stuck with the kde button but at some point it changed to   something like this   |<--20:14
geniiGaMbi_DK: Why aren't you just installing from the package manager?20:14
cuzntah20:15
GaMbi_DKgenii due to old version20:15
cuznthas it moved to the left because your task bar is full?20:15
geniiGaMbi_DK: Applications installed outside of the package manager cannot be supported20:16
saint_Anyone else having a Frostwire problem? Like it not starting?20:18
DarthFrogGaMbi_DK: What old version?20:18
cuznt!Frostwire20:18
ubottufrostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire20:18
GaMbi_DKDarthFrog, compiz .7.6.. I want .7.8 :)20:20
dxdtHello, when I try to add new widgets to my desktop in KDE4, I find a surprising20:20
dxdtwhoops pressed enter too soon.  Basically I want more widgets, but I can't seem to get more than one option for extra widgets to install. Is this the case with most people or am I missing out on something?20:21
dxdtThe only place that I can search for new widgets is listed KDE-look.org20:22
DarthFrogGaMbi_DK: That version of compiz is in Intrepid.20:22
deftonecrap....i accidentally removed the start menu button...any way to get it back?20:31
saint_deftone: "Add Applet to panel"20:32
deftonehow do i do that?20:34
DarthFrogIf you're running KDE4.1.2, try installing plasmoid-lancelot.  I much prefer it to the new KDE Menu applet.20:34
DarthFrog!lancelot20:35
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about lancelot20:35
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deftonei installed it Darth but that didn't bring back my menu button..lol20:38
deftonedoes anyone know how to get the menu button back...i accidentally removed it20:47
DarthFrogdeftone: Which version of KDE are you using?20:48
FuriousGeorgehey all20:50
deftonethe newest20:50
deftonekubuntu 8.10 beta20:51
deftonei've looked everywhere and i can't seem to find that setting anywhere! lol20:52
DarthFrogClick  on the ying-yang icon on the right hand side of the panel..  Select "Add Widgets".20:52
FuriousGeorgei just did this:  dd if=/dev/sda | gzip -9 | ssh re.motecomputer.com "gzip -d -| dd of=/dev/sda" and it worked. (after a reboot on liveusb drive) i was able to assemble, rebuild, and mount my raid1 arrays, and see my lvm volumes on one of em20:53
deftonei did that and it throws it to the right hand side instead of the left hand side20:53
renato__hi,  I launched chkrootkit and I found a line that says: eth0: PACKET SNIFFER(/usr/sbin/dhcpd3[5560]) does it mean I have a rootkit installed? (I am investigating a possible break in)20:53
FuriousGeorgeso what else should i be doing?  both computers are identical20:54
DarthFrogdeftone: So move it.20:54
FuriousGeorgei should delete the udev rule that has the MAC for the other computer's NIC (i guess they're not so identical), right?20:54
deftoneo.k here we go...last time i moved it i screwed the who look up..lol20:54
deftoneyes !20:55
deftoneha thanks Darth20:55
gambiback from reboot.. WHY do I get those typing delays? this time the only thing I had running was a inactive terminal and Xchat... when I get this delay: Takes ½-1½ sec for characters to appear after typing.. cant type anything before the character is shown.. any ideas? (this is a clean installation of ubuntu 7.04 - but it also did it before I reinstalled from Kubuntu)20:56
DarthFrogFuriousGeorge: Well, at least put the correct MAC address in.20:56
maurice__hi20:57
infodevheyyyyyyyyyy20:57
geniirenato__: Does it say above that somewhere "INFECTED (PORTS: xxxx xxxx)"                  or such?20:57
infodevmaurice_, form wher are you ,20:57
deftonek how do i enable the lancelot thing you recommended?20:57
renato__genii, no that is all it said, I googled a bit and some seem to believe it is normal for a dhcp deaom to do that20:58
DarthFrogdeftone: Same way.21:00
geniirenato__: Then no worries.21:01
renato__tx genii21:01
deftonewow now we're talking!21:02
deftoneDarth: that menu is great!21:02
DarthFrogrenato__: If this is a server, make all files in /bin, /usr/bin, /sbin & /usr/bin immutable.  chattr +i <filename>.  Mount /tmp on its own partition and mount it nosuid, noexec, nouser and nodev.21:03
DarthFrogrenato__: I also have the binary directories on my servers on their own partitions and mounted read-only.  Suspenders and a belt, don't you know? :-)21:04
deftoneDarthFrog: one last question and I have to go take a shower. what's the best widget to monitor cpu, ram usage?21:05
DarthFrogrenato__: That way a rootkit can;t be installed.21:05
DarthFrogdeftone: No opinion, don't use one.21:05
DarthFrogYou might like hot-babe, though. :-)21:08
Zerothisis there a vnc type server-client combination that lets the client switching between desktop users?21:09
tphilosopherHey guys. I was wondering if you could help me with a problem my girlfriend is having on her Kubuntu 8.04 machine. Both KMess and Kopete are having problems displaying the correct status of herself to other people. It appears to be happening to a select few - me and two others.21:17
tphilosopherA quotation from her email:21:17
tphilosopher"On both Kmess and Kopete, i appear offline to you. And on both Kmess and Kopete, Klaire and Chester appear offline to me, despite the fact that i'm not. Do you know why this is, or what i can do to fix it? Please write back asap, 'cause this sucks!"21:17
paolohi, is there a channel related to audio ?21:21
tphilosopherDoes anyone know where the KMess and Kopete configuration files are, so she can delete them and see if that fixes the problem?21:23
DarthFrogtphilosopher: ~/.kde/share/apps21:24
tphilosopherDarthFrog: Thanks.21:25
DarthFrogthe files will be rc files. (ie. kopeterc).21:25
DarthFrogtphilosopher: Check ~/.kde/share/config, too.21:25
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CugelHello people. I have a question about Superkaramba. Anyone using it?21:36
emmaHi there, I'm running Kubuntu Intrepid, yesterday I could watch youtube videos with konqueror. Today when I go to youtube, the video never starts. Any ideas?21:40
indroraOk, I'm passed miffed.21:45
indroraI'm running Kubuntu-latest (fresh install via Wubi) and running into the problem of there's NO sound. I'm running an Alienware M9750 with the Realtek audio.21:46
itsatrickIs it just me, or does kate have fading colors in the file list (i.e. older files are "whiter")?21:47
Mr-S_indrora: what have you tried so far ?21:48
indroraMr-S_: I have so far tried running normal ubuntu (runs OK, only headphones) b) tried setting the mixer in KDE to Alsa (reboot loop) c) adding option snd-intel model=arima and have so far gotten no love21:50
Mr-S_indrora: open Kmixer ( start -> Multimedia -> Kmixer) and put all slides to full. Make sure the green light above the sliders are illuminated. check the sound again.21:50
indroraBah!21:51
* indrora has to mute the mic in21:51
Mr-S_most likely one of the slider ( turned on ) will give you soudn through the speakers21:51
DarkSmokewhat IDE is there on linux for c++?21:52
Mr-S_i my case i had to activate 3D ( sourround ) for my laptop speakers21:52
indroraMr-S_: Nope.21:52
indrorano luck21:52
indroraall up (except for my front mic)21:52
DarthFrog!kdevelop21:52
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about kdevelop21:52
DarthFrogDarkSmoke: Kdevelop.21:52
Mr-S_OK but you do have sound by the headset, or not ?21:53
indroraneither21:53
indroraunder Kubuntu i have no sound whatsoever21:53
DarkSmokethankz DarthFrog :D21:53
Mr-S_Lets have some fun. Start a konsole and type alsaconifg21:53
psycosehi, i would like to add a PPA repository to get firefox-3.1 but i don't want my system to upgrade other package that are provided by this PPA, how could i handle this ? thanks21:53
Mr-S_sudo alsaconfifg or alsaconf21:53
indroraneither found.21:54
Mr-S_OK one moment to check on something21:55
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psycohey guys, I have ALSA (I think) and my 4.1 speakers arent working properly. The 2 satelites dont have any sound. ANyone know what I ahve to do?21:55
DarthFrogpsyco: Play around with the mixer settings.21:56
Mr-S_OK back... try in konsole sudo alsaconf and enter yor password. If alsaconf found yor card, some channel (slider) has been muted, or is at min level21:59
EvilDaemonHello all.22:00
EvilDaemonHow, from the command line, do you access the restricted drivers?22:00
EvilDaemongksu <what>?22:00
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indroraMr-S_: Bash: alsaconf: not found22:00
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psycoDarthFrog: I did but there was nothing that changed.22:01
indroramaxbaldwin: apt-cache search (driver)22:01
maxbaldwinindrora: there isn't a way to access the graphival version via command line? the restricted drivers program?22:02
maxbaldwinI'm not sure what the driver is.22:02
indroramaxbaldwin: What hardware do you need drivers for?22:03
maxbaldwinNevermind indrora: it's in the system men.22:03
maxbaldwinLike, an ATI graphical card or something.22:03
maxbaldwinthanks22:04
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benjaminis kde3 still being developed, or has everyone moved over to kde4?22:25
jussi01benjamin: the latter...22:27
saint_KDE4 feels too buggy to me.22:28
saint_Like, not very smooth.22:28
YnoRsera a tutti22:31
Terrabithello.22:31
emmanuel_hi22:34
emmanuel_i got a problem22:34
Terrabitgo on.22:34
emmanuel_with te login22:34
emmanuel_i ve installed de kde4 packages22:34
emmanuel_and then de login windows changed22:35
emmanuel_so now i ve unistalled the kde packs22:35
senorpedrohi folsk22:36
senorpedrofolks22:36
emmanuel_but i cant change the login window22:36
senorpedroi have a ubuntu host and a windows guest, and i want to mount a shared folder in the windows guest22:36
emmanuel_pedro, podes hacerlo con vmware22:37
emmanuel_con q aplicacion de maquina virtual lo hiciste?22:37
senorpedroSystem error 67 has occurred.The network name cannot be found.22:37
Terrabitdamn i have had the same issue but just reverted to kde322:38
senorpedrooh man i hate this irc client.....22:38
senorpedrohowever, this is the error message that i get when i try to mount a shared folder in the guest22:38
benjamincan they ping eachother?22:39
senorpedronope22:40
senorpedroping request could not find host vboxsvr22:40
benjaminso i think your first step would be to get that working... i'm not really an expert at troubleshooting networking issues22:41
trappistin the tar man page, it says I can exclude files matching a pattern by saying --exclude=PATTERN - anybody know where I can find docs about how to make a pattern?22:42
senorpedroaccording to the manual it should work22:42
senorpedro......22:42
senorpedrodamned22:42
senorpedroi hate it when something doesnt work out of the box22:42
thefuzz4any dmraid experts in here?22:43
ekWell, its definitely an nVidia driver issue (The strange screensaver/power saver/sleep issues). Anyone else having issues with nVidia drivers on AMD64?22:43
DarthFrog!regex | trappist22:43
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about regex22:43
l3r1k[| matches "trappist"]22:43
DarthFrogtrappist: What you want are called regular expressions.  They are extremely powerfull pattern matchers.22:43
ekUnless the issue is just with the latest drivers... DarthFrog, you wouldn't happen to know when the latest nVidia drivers were released would you?22:44
trappistDarthFrog: I know regexes, but I don't think that's what's supported by tar - or do you know of documentation that says it is?22:44
starenkahi, is there a way how to run script after certain usb device is conncted? (wanna turn off touchpad, when mouse is connected). thx22:45
DarthFrogtrappist: I just checked the tar manpage and it doesn't mention regexes.  But I'd be surprised if a regex didn't work.22:45
trappistDarthFrog: found something on the internet that suggests it wants shell glob expressions, not regular expressions22:46
trappistgonna try it...22:46
DarthFrogek: I'm running Intrepid AMD64 with an Nvidia card.  I used jockey-kde to get it running.22:46
DarthFrogYeah, globbing should work fine.22:47
ekDarthFrog: Hrm. That's what I used as well.22:47
ekAlthough, not on Intrepid.22:47
ekYup. Everything is running smoothly using the "vesa" driver.22:49
ekHrm.22:49
ekIsn't there a way to get a previous version of the drivers through apt?22:50
ekOr do I need to manually download and install them?22:50
trappistyeah it's shell globs22:50
thefuzz4what vid card are you using?  I was having some issues with Intrepid and my ATI card.  Snowhog on the forums recommended Envy and that worked like magic for me22:51
DarthFrog!envy22:51
ubottuenvyng is an updated version of the *UNSUPPORTED* envy package. It is now part of the ubuntu universe repository (envyng-gtk OR envyng-qt) we suggest you use envyng if every other (official/supported) method fails! it can have various results from works, to fails!!!  if you want the very latest drivers from the manufacturer you use them at your own risk22:51
ekthefuzz4: nVidia Go 6000 or something (Laptop)22:51
thefuzz4ek: have you tried using Envy yet?22:52
ekthefuzz4: Nope. Not yet.22:52
thefuzz4http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3086232.msg86621#msg8662122:52
ekthefuzz4: I'm not extremely familiar with Linux and such. Anything I can read?22:52
ekBeautiful. Thanks.22:53
thefuzz4that post right there should help ya22:53
DarthFrogek: Back up anything you care about first, in case they screw up and you have to re-install.22:54
thefuzz4so does anyone know anything about dmraid and Intrepid?22:55
ekDarthFrog: Yeah. Fresh install. Nothing to lose (yet).22:56
ekThanks guys for the info.22:56
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deftoneDarthFrog: How do I reset my desktop to the default when I first installed Kubuntu?22:58
giraonobody here23:16
geniiNot true23:16
maxbaldwinno23:16
maxbaldwinno one23:16
giraobecause23:17
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deftoneHow do I reset my desktop to the default when I first installed Kubuntu?23:36
geniiremove all files in ~/.kde/share/config23:37
deftonety23:37
deftonedoes it matter if i'm in kde already?23:37
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geniideftone: Next time you login it will have been set to defaults23:39
xwebdeftone: I don't think so buy if you can't delete the folder just log out switch to a console and remove the folder.23:39
xwebgenii: sorry didn't meant to step on your toes.23:40
geniiDon't delete the folder itself, just it's contents23:40
cuznttrying to apt clean but got E: Could not open lock file /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (13 Permission denied)23:40
geniixweb: No worries :)23:40
tickleme_eddiehello23:41
xwebthe folder will be regenerated. I just did it with kde-423:41
geniicuznt: That usually means either :  another thing using package manager is running     or: you didn't use sudo23:41
geniixweb: Good to know then23:41
cuzntheh23:42
cuznttnx23:42
xwebtickleme_eddie: hello23:42
tickleme_eddiehey xweb23:42
tickleme_eddiedo u know how i can install Konversation on Windows XP23:42
geniiWhy the hell would you want to?23:43
tickleme_eddiehahah23:43
cuzntjust download it to windows23:43
tickleme_eddiemy sister23:43
cuznti had it on mine23:43
tickleme_eddieshe has windows23:43
cuzntbut then did the whole kde thing23:43
tickleme_eddieand it is the only way i can talk to her23:43
xwebtickleme_eddie: are you trying to talk to her via irc?23:44
geniiI wonder when Konversation 1.1 is gonna make it to repos23:45
tickleme_eddiei install mirc23:45
tickleme_eddiebut i cant seem to find her on this thing23:45
geniiPerhaps consider Chatzilla or so23:45
xwebmake sure she is connecting to the same server as you.23:45
xweb(i.e. brown.freenode.net23:46
xweb)23:46
tickleme_eddiecool tks23:46
zer0odu guys no if there's something for linux like photostudio?23:49
geniizer0o: The Gimp    generally is used23:50
xwebgenii: i wonder when Konversation will come out for kde423:50
geniixweb: Me too. Since I'm gonna have to switch to it sooner or later23:50
zer0ogenii, ive got it but i'm looking for something like a photo editor. for win there's photostudio it's perfect23:51
xweb4.1.2 is relatively stable and will install along side of you current kde install with no problems.23:51
zer0odu think, being a prog for win it'll work with wine?23:51
geniizer0o: Gimp is a perfectly fine photo editor23:51
el-gokulokrita is also nice. but no comparison to photoshop23:51
geniiThere's also Cinelerra23:52
deftonei'm on kubuntu 8.10 beta....what would be the proper directory to delete the folder to get back to default desktop like when i first installed kubuntu23:52
zer0oyes but photo studio is better for one function: vanishing photos into each other, it is something that you can adjust with layers and masks and gradient tool in gimp but u'll never get the same advanced effect that u get with photostudio23:52
xwebdeftone: is it kde4 or 323:53
el-gokuloafaik you can install photoshop with wine. but never tried it out23:53
deftonekde423:53
geniiI've heard some people are using CS3 under wine23:53
zer0oCS3 it's like gimp, actually gimp is better23:53
NamShubCS2 is on the list of the "must be gold for release" for 1.0, no?23:53
zer0oim looking for a photo editor that's it23:54
xweb~/.kde4/share/config23:54
el-gokulozer0o, try krita23:54
el-gokuloshould be installed any way afaik23:55
zer0oKrita? mmm alright i'll give it a try, in the meantime im downloading ps and see if it runs on wine23:56

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