[00:00] <Tann> etfb: you can get a kde4 version of kubuntu hardy
[00:00] <petr> people.... how can I turn russian language in Kopete on? Now I hawe only english. When I press "Alt+Shift" nothing heppen.
[00:00] <benbloom> i found it very disapointing for the 10 minutes until I ran back to kde3 with my tail 'twixt my legs
[00:00] <etfb> Tann: Yes, but you can get a nuclear reactor without lead shielding too.  Doesn't mean you should...
[00:00] <Tann> etfb: yeah I know
[00:00] <etfb> benbloom: What's that - Gnome or KDE4?
[00:00] <dr_willis> The_ManU_212,  from what i am seein g in the 8.10 repos . there may be some kde3 apps still in there.. but its a bit hard to tell. Im trying ubuntu right now. Not kubuntu
[00:01] <benbloom> kde4
[00:01] <benbloom> i use Gnome on my laptop. but I'm thinking about stepping back to Xfce for resource savings
[00:02] <Tann> dr_willis: If I ever have to do a clean install of intrepid (with kde4 at its current state) I would use ubuntu
[00:02] <The_ManU_212> dr_willis: you dont mean me?
[00:02] <etfb> benbloom: Ah.  I kind of wish I had a way to test it, but there's no point doing usability testing inside a virtual machine, for obvious reasons.
[00:02]  * dr_willis i still wakeing up. :)
[00:02] <benbloom> my laptop is maxed at 512 ram and I'm finding it VERY SLOW
[00:02] <dr_willis> I got 8.10 going inside virtualbox here.
[00:03] <etfb> benbloom: My daughter had Xubuntu on her old desktop computer, but the speed savings weren't much.  Better to add more memory.
[00:03] <dr_willis> and on a laptop. I will admit wireless worked   without any tricks/hacks/work on 8.10 for me.. which is a first.
[00:03] <etfb> benbloom: She's got a slightly faster machine with more RAM and Kubuntu 8.04, and she's fine with it.
[00:03] <Tann> petr: Kopete has a translator plugin under Settings>Configure Plugins
[00:04] <benbloom> second DIMM is broken :( max capacity is 512 per slot
[00:04] <etfb> benbloom: Bother!
[00:04] <benbloom> I
[00:04] <benbloom> i'd have to replace the motherboard
[00:04] <benbloom> bought the computer for $100
[00:05] <benbloom> so Xubuntu isn't much leaner in terms of system resources?
[00:06] <Tann> No. I have actually heard from someone that it was slower. (I'm not too sure about that though)
[00:06] <benbloom> hmmm. you're making me very sad guys
[00:06] <dr_willis> jwm + rox-filer is rather minimal :)
[00:07] <benbloom> BTW dr_willis last night you helped me with display problems right?
[00:07] <etfb> benbloom: My experience was that the slow old PC she used to use (AMD Duron, 384Mb) was slow no matter what.  Maybe I was foolish to give her that box in the first place, tho it runs OK with Windows 2000 as our only Microsoft box.
[00:07] <dr_willis> I recall helping 2 people yesterday.. both had issues with KVM switches.
[00:07] <dr_willis> :)
[00:08] <benbloom> yes. so anyway the problem's fixed without messing with the KVM. just had to add 1 mode to the xorg.conf and reboot
[00:08] <dr_willis> i recall that helping one person.. then the 2nd i told to do that.. well i had to leave befor i learned if that worked..
[00:08] <dr_willis> so now we know the answer! :)
[00:08] <benbloom> my Ram problems turned out to be hardware compatibility issue. Patriot ram seem's to have a lot of that
[00:10] <etfb> Better go do work.  Another day, another pile of house repairs.  Bye all!
[00:11] <benbloom> so jwm is pretty lightweight?
[00:12] <dr_willis> if theres a wm lighter then JWM ive not seen it...
[00:12] <dr_willis> :)
[00:12] <dr_willis> !info jwm
[00:12] <dr_willis> !info twm
[00:13] <dr_willis> beats twm by 100k
[00:13] <benbloom> I want to be able to play music, surf the web and run a spreadsheet editor (excell clone) is that the kind I could do with jwm?
[00:13] <dr_willis> matchbox mightbe smaller.. but matchbox is weird.
[00:13] <dr_willis> the window manager wont matter for that benbloom
[00:13] <dr_willis> its just the under laying foundation.. the apps allstill run the same
[00:14] <The_ManU_212> i got a queston for adept manager, i use it for updates, which options offers it, can i also deactivate a part of an update? and the ubvuntu signs what are they for?
[00:14] <dr_willis> jwm may take some tweaking to get set up how you like it.  (edit the .jwmrc file)
[00:14] <dr_willis> I use rox-filer with jwm to get icons on the desktop and work as its filemanager
[00:14] <benbloom> does changing wms make a big dif in how resources are allocated? in otherwords is gnome the problem? or is it my apps?
[00:15] <dr_willis> gnome uses a bit of ram.. but the apps i imagine are using most of it.
[00:15] <dr_willis> firefox can be a hog. and Openoffice - also a real ram grabber
[00:15] <benbloom> yeah. i
[00:15] <benbloom> ve noticed
[00:16] <benbloom> god forbid I should run both at once... my system nearly freezes
[00:16] <dr_willis> problem with jwm - will be theres no 'auto mounting of removeable media' stuff.. you would have to use some mounting gui apps most likely.
[00:16] <benbloom> ok. that's good to know.
[00:17] <benbloom> and as far as making the switch. can I install jwm and then somehow tell gnome to stop loading (or uninstall it)
[00:17] <benbloom> or do i have to rebuild my OS from the ground up
[00:17] <dr_willis> the GDM screen should have a sessions entry for jdm
[00:17] <dr_willis> jwm
[00:17] <benbloom> ah. right
[00:18] <dr_willis> this is linux.. you dont rebuild the OS just to change window managers. :)
[00:18] <dr_willis> Thats windows...
[00:18] <dr_willis> ;P
[00:18] <benbloom> lol. still getting used to it
[00:18] <benbloom> freedom
[00:18]  * benbloom sighs
[00:18] <dr_willis> sudo apt-get install jwm rox-filer
[00:19] <benbloom> and is there a good alternative to editing spreadsheets on openoffice?
[00:19] <dr_willis> gnome has some spreadsheet tool.
[00:19] <benbloom> I've already decided to switch to opera
[00:19] <dr_willis> but i dont know how compatiabel it is.
[00:19] <benbloom> with jwm?
[00:19] <dr_willis> the window manager wont matter...
[00:19] <dr_willis> :) we covered that
[00:19] <benbloom> right sorry
[00:20] <dr_willis> gnumeric may not have all the fetures of OOcalc
[00:20] <benbloom> forgot (I get the concepts just haven't gotten used to them)
[00:20] <benbloom> so what's up with all the kprograms? u don't need kubuntu to run them but they are "intigrated" what does that even mean?
[00:22] <benbloom> i meant kde not kubuntu
[00:22] <dr_willis> They use the kde libraryes.
[00:22] <dr_willis> You can mixx and match kde and gnome apps with each other all you want
[00:22] <dr_willis> 'Linux is like Legos' - Differnt blocks forming layers.. that you then put other blocks on. :)
[00:22] <benbloom> so those load as needed only right? (the kde libs)
[00:22] <dr_willis> Yep
[00:23] <dr_willis> so if you use a kde app and a gnome app. you just loaded both set of libs.
[00:23] <dr_willis> !info jwm
[00:23] <benbloom> and unload when a program closes?
[00:23] <dr_willis> note that jwm is a 'pure X11'  its using just the basic X libs. Not the QT or GTK libs.
[00:24] <benbloom> so the advantage there is that those libraries are only loaded as needed by the programs i use (if at all)
[00:25] <benbloom> ?
[00:25] <dr_willis> basically
[00:26] <benbloom> k so what's the point of Xubuntu then? sounds like it's not doing it's goal
[00:26] <dr_willis> xubuntu is still using gtk  for most of it stuff.. its very close to 'gnome'
[00:26] <dr_willis> I think its using gtk...
[00:26] <dr_willis> it just dosent use as much ram as gnome.
[00:27] <benbloom> I thought it used xfce instead of gtk?
[00:27] <dr_willis> xfce the name of the desktop
[00:28] <dr_willis> see   http://xwinman.org/
[00:28] <dr_willis> Xfce is a lightweight desktop environment for UNIX platforms. It is similar to the commercial CDE, and is now based on the GTK+ toolkit.
[00:33] <benbloom> I thought the whole point of xubuntu was to create a minimalist OS for people with limited resources
[00:33] <dr_willis> xubuntu is more minimal then gnome
[00:34] <dr_willis> if you want VERY VERY light system,  theres DSL, and PUPPYlinux
[00:34] <the_darkside_986> Anyone unable to get the "loading kernel" box to show up when trying kubuntu 8.10 beta (i386) cd?
[00:34] <dr_willis> You can only trim so much out and keep full 'desktop' functionality
[00:34] <the_darkside_986> I can't get the "Check CD for defects" item to work either
[00:35] <van> damn someone help me
[00:35] <mjbt38> any specific chan to ask about software....need something to edit the video / avi make it brighter ?
[00:35] <van> my KDE keep creating snapshot
[00:35] <van> windows
[00:35] <van> when if i kill the ksnpashot process
[00:35] <van> it keep appearing
[00:35] <van> what going on
[00:35] <dr_willis> !enter
[00:35] <antonio_> ciao
[00:36] <van> sorry
[00:36] <dr_willis> cant say that i ever used ksnapshot. :) i wonder if its not got some settingto do that.. check its settings?
[00:36] <van> nah its a bug
[00:36] <dr_willis> very possible.
[00:36] <dr_willis> this is kde3 or 4?
[00:37] <van> i have hold the button printscreen for like 1 seocnd by mistake
[00:37] <van> now its spamming like 324674323167486871264278 windows
[00:37] <van> even if i kill the process..
[00:37] <van> lol
[00:37] <van> hmm not sure what kde.. i use 8.04 version
[00:38] <mjbt38> you have some sort of "sudo" stickey key ?
[00:38] <van> nah excpet if kde did it by default
[00:38] <mjbt38> ./exec kdeversion if ya usin konversation
[00:38] <mjbt38> Qt: 3.3.8b
[00:38] <mjbt38> KDE: 3.5.10
[00:38] <mjbt38> kde-config: 1.0
[00:38] <van> ./exec kdeversion
[00:38] <van> ops
[00:38] <mjbt38> no .
[00:39] <k3> kubuntu kicks ars
[00:39] <van> Qt: 3.3.8b
[00:39] <van> KDE: 3.5.9
[00:39] <van> kde-config: 1.0
[00:39] <van> KDE: 3.5.9
[00:40] <mjbt38> ./exec cmd uname -a
[00:40] <mjbt38> er
[00:40] <mjbt38> Linux BlackBox 2.6.24-21-generic #1 SMP Mon Aug 25 16:57:51 UTC 2008 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[00:40] <van> Linux van 2.6.24-19-generic #1 SMP Wed Aug 20 22:56:21 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux
[00:41]  * mjbt38 64bit
[00:41] <van> O_O
[00:41] <dr_willis> testing out 64bit on my laptop now. :)
[00:41] <van> what's better on 64bit ?
[00:42] <dr_willis> more bits.. to impress the chicks...
[00:42] <dr_willis> :)
[00:42] <van> lol..
[00:42] <dr_willis> some tasks are supposed to be faster
[00:42] <dr_willis> more ram access..
[00:42] <dr_willis> i hear battery life may be worse
[00:42] <van> we can use bigmem support with 32bit
[00:42] <van> for the ram..
[00:42] <dr_willis> memory isent really an issue untill you get over 4gb...
[00:42] <van> how much ram you got?
[00:42] <dr_willis> or if you have exactly 4gb - which my laptop does
[00:43] <van> dont tell me ur one of those freak tat get like 16gb ram on a little station
[00:43] <dr_willis> It even came with 64bit windows.
[00:43] <van> oh ok
[00:43] <van> my laptop has 4gb too
[00:43] <van> i use 32bit version and its works fine :)
[00:43] <dr_willis> desktop box has 3gb. :)
[00:43] <van> why need the 64bit O_O
[00:43] <dr_willis> even with exactly 4gb - i imagine im not gettingit 'all' under 32bit.
[00:44] <van> hmm well
[00:44] <van> i am thinking to buy the little ASUS n10j
[00:44] <van> its fucking small and lighter with 320 HD and 2gb ram
[00:44] <van> =D
[00:44] <van> houdl i go for it?
[00:45] <dr_willis> Big Toys for Big Boys.
[00:45] <dr_willis> :)
[00:45] <van> hmm should i got for it or not?
[00:45] <van> =/
[00:45] <van> still thinking
[00:47] <benbloom> hey dr_willis (or anyone else for that matter) is there a good <i>lean</i> network control utility for jwm
[00:47] <cuznt> -NickServ- <bewofthe@verizon.net> is not a valid email address.
[00:47] <cuznt> it is too
[00:47] <ImRaiNe> anybody ther?
[00:47] <mjbt38> Sysinfo for 'BlackBox': Linux 2.6.24-21-generic running KDE 3.5.10, CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) D CPU 2.80GHz at 3502 MHz (7006 bogomips), HD: 97/230GB, RAM: 1998/2014MB, 118 proc's, 7.53h up
[00:47] <mjbt38> ./exec sysinfo
[00:48] <van> exec sysinfo
[00:48] <mjbt38> fail
[00:48] <van> Sysinfo for 'van': Linux 2.6.24-19-generic running KDE 3.5.9, CPU: Intel(R)Pentium(R)4CPU3.00GHz at 2400 MHz (6000 bogomips), , RAM: 2044/3034MB, 158 proc's, 19.14min up
[00:48] <dr_willis> benbloom,  to controll what part/features ? Ive never really needed to do much with networks :) other then connect..
[00:49] <benbloom> wireless connect
[00:49] <ImRaiNe> can anybody help me fix my kde
[00:49] <benbloom> I could use the cl but I don't know how
[00:49] <Jammu> hi i need a litle help whit my splash screen
[00:49] <mjbt38> Pitivi Video Editor
[00:49] <mjbt38> er sorry
[00:49] <mjbt38> brb
[00:49] <dr_willis> I dont use wireless...  :) but i may start.. since it now works with 8.10
[00:50] <dr_willis> benbloom,  to do wireless stuff you will have to run that nm-applet/tool most likely
[00:50] <Jammu> dr_willis what op u got?
[00:50] <Jammu> sorry os
[00:50] <mjbt38> network-manager
[00:50] <dr_willis> testing 8.10 64bit Ubuntu on the laptop.. wireless WORKED! :)
[00:51] <crapo_vert> Hey, i#ve isntalled kubuntu 8.10 Beta ...but with firefox xserver crashs very often :( any solutions?
[00:51] <Jammu> same here but has been working for a while
[00:51] <benbloom> great so those applets don't require all the gnome libs?
[00:51] <Jammu> hi i need a litle help whit my splash screen
[00:52] <mjbt38> it dont work on 64bit crapo_vert
[00:52] <mjbt38> not for me it didnt
[00:52] <mjbt38> i took it out and just used kde-desktop
[00:53] <mjbt38> 32bit tho ...no clue
[00:53] <crapo_vert> But i've got 32bit only athlonXp 2200+
[00:54] <mjbt38> hmm
[00:55] <mjbt38> ati graphics?
[00:56] <donjr_KS> I burned a divx video to CD, plays fine in wondows.  Won't play on my kubuntu box. I do have the divx codecs from the repo, any suggestions?
[00:56] <petr> bye, people.
[00:57] <crapo_vert> bye
[00:57] <crapo_vert> No ati, got nvidia.
[00:58] <Jammu> printer scanner help any one??
[00:59] <donjr_KS> what about the printer/scanner?
[01:00]  * memeemeee switched over to the laptop (gotta watch the REDSOX!!!)
[01:00] <Jammu> it prints but not scans
[01:00] <Jammu> its a epson
[01:01] <donjr_KS> may have to use ndiswrapper to run the proper drivers
[01:01] <Jammu> ???
[01:02] <Jammu> im new
[01:03] <donjr_KS> google ndiswrapper. I don't know enough to explain it properly.
[01:03] <donjr_KS> but in short it will take the .sys and .inf files of windows drivers and use them to run the printer/scanner
[01:04] <donjr_KS> Anyone have any info on playing divx video files when the divx codec from the repo aren't working?
[01:05] <donjr_KS> the CD I burned plays fine on my windows box, but won't play in Kubuntu
[01:05] <contrast> Greets, everyone...
[01:05] <Wicked> !restricted
[01:05] <Wicked> !restricted | donjr_KS
[01:06] <donjr_KS> thanks
[01:06] <Wicked> np
[01:07] <contrast> Anyone here use Kino? I'm trying to figure out how to select the audio track on an imported .vob file that has more than one.
[01:08] <Jammu> KS it just says a lot about wireless drivers
[01:11] <mephx> anyone got a 8400M GS and can adjust the led brightness? (this is eating more time than my job does...)
[01:26] <memeemeee> ok. anyone know about minimal installations of ubuntu? is there a channel I should join?
[01:27]  * memeemeee is away: I'm busy
[01:27] <contrast> memeemeee: what exactly do you need to know? i've done a few installs from the minimal cd.
[01:33] <memeemeee> contrast, I'm running on limited resources on my laptop and I want to switch to jwm
[01:34] <memeemeee> I'm actually running ubuntu on my laptop now (been using kubuntu on my desktop which is why I asked here)
[01:36] <contrast> memeemeee: ok... so what's your question? :)
[01:37] <mander> to room in general: I've been running Ubuntu 8.04, but using KTorrent has been eating up a lot of memory. Things were laggy. Switched to Xfce/Kubuntu and things are *better*.
[01:38] <memeemeee> well. for one thing I want to load into x11/jwm directly at boot without having to drop into failsafe terminal first
[01:39] <BluesKaj> memory is cheap these days . I added a 1G stick for $35
[01:39] <Wharfedale> Hi there.
[01:39] <muimota> hi!
[01:40] <kyrksaeterora> Hi all. I recently installed Kubuntu 8.04 on my laptop and since 8.04 doesn't have drivers for my wireless card, I used NDISwrapper to install them. The drivers are properly installed, however I am having difficulties configuring the computer to use the wireless. It shows me both an eth0 and a wlan0 interface so I know the card is working (also the card works under windows), but I don't know how to tell Kubuntu to use the wlan0 conn
[01:40] <memeemeee> also, I Imagine there's some kind of jwmrc or autoload file I can start my applets from
[01:40] <mander> to room: any torrent client better than KTorrent, for memory issues?
[01:40] <Wharfedale> Im having trouble anabling nvidia driver on kde4 it worked on 3 though
[01:40] <Jammu> does NDISwrapper  work on printers???
[01:40] <Wharfedale> anyone good with that
[01:41] <contrast> memeemeee: not sure, sorry. i've never used jwm, nor have i gone w/o a display manager. you know you can use gdm or kdm w/o having gnome or kde installed, right?
[01:41] <kyrksaeterora> NDISwrapper is only for wifi drivers
[01:41] <kyrksaeterora> What kind of printer do you have?
[01:41] <contrast> there are other lightweight display managers as well
[01:41] <Jammu> ok what good for printer/scanners?
[01:41] <mander> kryks, are all restricted drivers enabled?
[01:42] <Jammu> BrB
[01:42] <mander> Blueskaj, I'm such a neophyte I'm still trying to figure out which memory is appropriate for my laptop. And $35 has better uses 'round these parts right now, sadly.
[01:42] <memeemeee> BluesKaj, not everyone can upgrade their hardware. $ is not the only limitation
[01:44] <BluesKaj> memeemeee:  usually the easiest upgrade is memory
[01:44] <kyrksaeterora> BluesKaj that's true however on some laptops it can be a bitch
[01:44] <BluesKaj> right
[01:44] <kyrksaeterora> either because the machine is outdated and memory is no longer available or because it's proprietary
[01:45] <contrast> Anyone here use Kino? I'm trying to figure out how to select the audio track on an imported .vob.
[01:45] <memeemeee> BluesKaj, i've got a laptop with only 1 functioning DIMM and it's max RAM is 512
[01:46] <BluesKaj> then using a barebones install and desktop like xfc will make a large diff
[01:46] <memeemeee> just saying-- I wish I could just ad $$ to my computer instead of having to conserve resources in my wm
[01:46] <kyrksaeterora> anybody got suggestions for my wireless config issue?
[01:47] <contrast> memeemeee: enlightenment is definitely worth checking out also - there's a repo for the latest e17: deb http://e17.dunnewind.net/ubuntu hardy e17
[01:47] <mander> kyrks, for me it was always forgetting to enable restricted drivers. That's as much use as I can be of to you, sorry.
[01:48] <kyrksaeterora> how do I enable restricted drivers?
[01:48] <memeemeee> kyrksaeterora, what was the wireless problem again?
[01:49] <kyrksaeterora> drivers are installed, card works right, but I can't get the computer to connect through the wlan0 interface and not the eth0
[01:49] <kyrksaeterora> there's no ethernet cord in it
[01:49] <Dragon_Master> kyrksaeterora, what KDE version?
[01:49] <Dragon_Master> xD
[01:49] <kyrksaeterora> 3.x
[01:49] <Dragon_Master> ouch XD
[01:49] <bel666> could someone help me to get to work any gateway/router applitation on my ubuntu?
[01:49] <Dragon_Master> Its under the System Menu
[01:49] <Dragon_Master> Hardware Drivers Manager
[01:49] <memeemeee> a wireless printer? kyrksaeterora
[01:49] <kyrksaeterora> memeemeee no
[01:49] <kyrksaeterora> here lemme paste it
[01:49] <kyrksaeterora> Hi all. I recently installed Kubuntu 8.04 on my laptop and since 8.04 doesn't have drivers for my wireless card, I used NDISwrapper to install them. The drivers are properly installed, however I am having difficulties configuring the computer to use the wireless. It shows me both an eth0 and a wlan0 interface so I know the card is working (also the card works under windows), but I don't know how to tell Kubuntu to use the wlan0 conn
[01:50] <memeemeee> ah
[01:50] <memeemeee> i had this problem
[01:50] <memeemeee> which wireless card u using?
[01:50] <kyrksaeterora> Dragon_Master underneath the hardware drivers program I get no drivers shown
[01:50] <kyrksaeterora> memeemeee, Airlink101 AWLC3026, it has the Mrv8k chipset
[01:51] <Dragon_Master> oO
[01:51] <kyrksaeterora> i know, i know
[01:51] <kyrksaeterora> I got it for free with the laptop
[01:51] <kyrksaeterora> it works
[01:51] <kyrksaeterora> if I had to buy my own wireless card I'd have a bloody netgear
[01:51] <Dragon_Master> ^5 kyrksaeterora
[01:52] <kyrksaeterora> what?
[01:52] <Dragon_Master> NETGEAR WPN111 here =P
[01:52] <Dragon_Master> xD
[01:52] <kyrksaeterora> punk
[01:52] <kyrksaeterora> =/
[01:52] <Dragon_Master> NETGEAR Wireless G+Mimo Router >>
[01:52] <kyrksaeterora> also if I wasn't broke I'd just go get a netgear card for simplicity
[01:52] <kyrksaeterora> on my desktop I've got a Linksys SRX400 PCI card and I have an SRX400 router
[01:52] <mander> I think that was a "high five", kyrks
[01:53] <kyrksaeterora> oh snap
[01:53] <kyrksaeterora> i see what you did there
[01:53] <Dragon_Master> xD
[01:53] <Dragon_Master> brb
[01:53] <Dragon_Master> gotta restart after KDE update >>
[01:53] <kyrksaeterora> netgear is pro. I had a netgear wireless card with my last laptop but it got jacked
[01:53] <Dragon_Master> dang
[01:53] <Dragon_Master> xD
[01:54] <kyrksaeterora> needed a lappy for school so I ended up paying $400 for a similarly aged dell (had a compaq before) with that wireless card but no working speakers
[01:54] <mander> sucks, Kyrks. Both card and laptop, or just card?
[01:54] <Dragon_Master> Mine I bought for 60$ at Office Depot
[01:54] <Dragon_Master> xD
[01:54] <kyrksaeterora> laptop got jacked, card was in it
[01:54] <kyrksaeterora> of course
[01:54] <mander> Feh! A pox on the thief!
[01:54] <kyrksaeterora> the guy who did it
[01:54] <kyrksaeterora> was a blitering idiot
[01:54] <Dragon_Master> kyrksaeterora, Alienware Aurora m9700, Kubuntu 8.04 KDE 4.1.2
[01:55] <Dragon_Master> =]
[01:55] <kyrksaeterora> he went through my internet history wherein he logged on to some forums I moderate
[01:55] <kyrksaeterora> so I checked my own posting IP
[01:55] <Dragon_Master> if it got jacked I'd be on the hunt
[01:55] <Dragon_Master> xD
[01:55] <kyrksaeterora> tracert'd every IP
[01:55] <kyrksaeterora> found one that wasn't me
[01:55] <kyrksaeterora> ended up bombing the fuck out of my old lappy
[01:55] <Dragon_Master> ><
[01:55] <Dragon_Master> brb
[01:55] <mander> wow, poor thing. A sacrifice for the cause.
[01:56] <Dragon_Master> =]
[01:56] <Wharfedale> Dragon_Master: did u help me before
[01:56] <contrast> Anyone here use Kino? I'm trying to figure out how to select the audio track on an imported .vob.
[01:56] <kyrksaeterora> memeemeee you there?
[01:57] <memeemeee> kyrksaeterora, i am. sorry
[01:57] <kyrksaeterora> k
[01:57] <kyrksaeterora> just checking
[01:57] <memeemeee> got a lot of windows open plus watching the redsox
[01:58] <kyrksaeterora> memeemeee i just did a 'ndiswrapper -l' and it came up with 'mrv8000c : driver installed, device present"
[01:58] <kyrksaeterora> also the light on the card is blinking, just the power light, not the data one
[01:58] <memeemeee> I found the solutions to my wlan config problems on ubuntuforums but I have broadcom which seems to be well supported
[01:58] <memeemeee> is it a PCMCIA card? or internal
[01:59] <kyrksaeterora> PCMCIA.
[01:59] <kyrksaeterora> hehe
[01:59] <kyrksaeterora> PCMCIA = people can't memorize computer industry acronyms
[01:59] <memeemeee> yeah-- I guess I'm not going to be much help
[02:04] <Wharfedale> how do i remove my nvidia drivers
[02:04] <BluesKaj> how were they installed ?
[02:05] <Wharfedale> kubuntu told me they were avalable
[02:05] <Wharfedale> i selected the recomented one
[02:05] <Wharfedale> everytime kubuntu starts it shows nvidia and some rubish then comes up fail in red
[02:05] <Wharfedale> still starts x
[02:06] <Wharfedale> but no 3d support
[02:07] <Wharfedale> basicly a popup apeared saying trhere are drivers avalable
[02:07] <Wharfedale> i just selected the recomended one
[02:07] <Wharfedale> bigest mistake i did
[02:07] <Wharfedale> lol
[02:16] <BluesKaj> Wharfedale: was it a .gz or .bz2 file ?
[02:18] <girao> portugues onde
[02:18] <kyrksaeterora> I'm pretty sure everybody here only speaks english, girao. Sorry.
[02:18] <DarthFrog> !pt | girao
[02:18] <kyrksaeterora> or that
[02:26] <gui> ola
[02:26] <gui> opa
[02:27] <girao> sabem alguma coisa sobre o kurumin ng
[02:28] <DarthFrog> girao: Ingles, por favor.
[02:29] <girao> i'm not god in inglês
[02:29] <DarthFrog> We don't speak portuguese.
[02:29] <DarthFrog> !pt
[02:30] <girao> tanks
[02:30] <DarthFrog> De nada. :-)
[02:30] <wharf> i have correct driver instaled for nvidia
[02:30] <wharf> yet its not working when i upgraded to kde4
[02:30] <wharf> any ideas?
[02:32] <gui> how do you do for doing update in kde???
[02:33] <wharf> WHat do you mean?
[02:33] <gui> i use kurumin ng, i guess than i use kde 3.... cause my version is  8.06
[02:34] <gui> the version of kde 4 is better than the version of kde 3?
[02:35] <wharf> gui, looks nice, im having graphics problems though
[02:36] <wharf> haha
[02:36] <DarthFrog> gui: KDE3 is more mature, KDE4 is the future.
[02:36] <kyrksaeterora> how can I upgrade from KDE 3.x to KDE 4.1?
[02:36] <gui> hum..
[02:36] <wharf> Darthfrog, u any good with graphics
[02:36] <DarthFrog> !kde4
[02:36] <gui> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IntrepidUpgrades/Kubuntu
[02:36] <DarthFrog> wharf: Not really. Sorry.
[02:36] <kyrksaeterora> gui not under intrepid, under hardy
[02:37] <wharf> ok problems man
[02:37] <wharf> :)
[02:37] <wharf> no problems**
[02:37] <DarthFrog> wharf: What do you mean, nvidia is not working in kDE4?
[02:37] <Dragon_Master> I need help now XD
[02:38] <Dragon_Master> KDE4.1 Plasma Crash on Login
[02:38] <wharf> DarthFrog: on kde3 i had desktop effects and everything, when i upgraded to kde4, my effects stopped, and graphics driver aint working
[02:38] <DarthFrog> But you have a GUI?
[02:38] <cuznt> my pc could not handle the plasma either
[02:38] <wharf> i have x just no 3d support
[02:38] <l3r1k> I'm having issues installing ubuntu 8.04. Whenever I use the LiveCD, it boots me into a BusyBox 'ash' shell and I cant get out of it. Whenever I use the alternate install CD, it complains that it cant find the CDROM in the drive after it autodetects my keyboard layout. What can I do?
[02:39] <DarthFrog> Wharf: Type this in a console: glxinfo | grep endering
[02:39] <DarthFrog> What does it say?
[02:40] <DarthFrog> Dragon_Master: Try moving your .kde4 directory to .kde4.saved and log in again.
[02:40] <wharf> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[02:40] <wharf> Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual or fbconfig
[02:40] <wharf> but
[02:40] <wharf> the xlib error
[02:40] <wharf> is like 10 lines repeating that same line
[02:41] <wharf> correct driver installed as well.
[02:41] <Dragon_Master> kz =P
[02:41] <DarthFrog> Run "jockey-kde" and enable the driver.
[02:42] <Dragon_Master> whats the Path to kde4 XD
[02:42] <DarthFrog> ~/.kde4
[02:42] <nejode> l3r1k: what motherboard does you rig have?
[02:42] <l3r1k> (Motherboard) ASUSTeK Computer INC. Goldfish3, version 1.xx
[02:42] <wharf> darthfrog, i tryed that, i click enable nothing happens
[02:42] <wharf> the both drivers go gray
[02:42] <l3r1k> That one, nejode.
[02:42] <wharf> and unclickable then
[02:42] <Dragon_Master> and one more thing
[02:42] <DarthFrog> wharf: File a bug report.
[02:43] <DarthFrog> !bug
[02:43] <Dragon_Master> I don't do much with Terminal
[02:43] <Dragon_Master> but whats the command to move a file XD
[02:43] <wharf> Darth, i had a console open, when i clicked enable, loads of writing came on console
[02:44] <DarthFrog> Dragon_Master: "mv ~/.kde4 ~/.kde4.saved"  as you, not via sudo.
[02:44] <nejode> l3rik: some ASUS mobo's use the marvel IDE controller... they're no supported in linux
[02:45] <DarthFrog> nejode: That wouldn't affect booting into LiveCD mode, though, I wouldn't think.
[02:45] <nejode> l3r1k: it drops to BusyBox prompt because it can loas the correct kernel module
[02:45] <DarthFrog> Ah.  I sit corrected. :-)
[02:45] <nejode> *can't load
[02:45] <l3r1k> What do you reccomend I do about it?
[02:46] <nejode> ...sure it can, the "el torito" standard for cd-rom boot uses floppy emulation
[02:46] <kyrksaeterora> is there any way to use the console to update to KDE 4.1.2 easily? I already enabled the repository for KDE4.1.2 that was on the kubuntu.org site
[02:47] <nejode> ...when it boots, the machine "thinks" it's booting from a floppy
[02:47] <wharf> http://paste.ubuntu.com/59950/  thats the rubish that came up on colsole
[02:48] <Dragon_Master> thnx Darth =]
[02:48] <nejode> ...tries to load the coorect module for the cd- and boom!
[02:48] <DarthFrog> kyrksaeterora: sudo apt-get update && apt-cache search kde4 | less
[02:48] <nejode> l3r1k: first you have to confirm that's the problem
[02:48] <DarthFrog> kyrksaeterora: Cut 'n paste that into a console.
[02:49] <l3r1k> >:(
[02:49] <DarthFrog> kyrksaeterora: Then look through the out put to see what you want. :-)
[02:49] <nejode> ...you have to remove "quiet" and "splash" from the kernel boot line
[02:49] <DarthFrog> kyrksaeterora: then: sudo apt-get install <what you want>
[02:49] <l3r1k> I have, too much texts floods by me to read it, nejode.
[02:50] <kyrksaeterora> to upgrade to KDE4 what kind of things would I want
[02:50] <mado> hello guys!
[02:50] <kyrksaeterora> hello mado
[02:50] <nejode> ...usually it's the last 6 or 10 lines before it drops to busybox
[02:50] <mado> is anyone here who bought spore??
[02:50] <mado> hello kyrksaeterora
[02:51] <DarthFrog> kyrksaeterora: Well, there will be a kde4-desktop meta package in all that.  That'll pull in every thing you need.
[02:51] <kyrksaeterora> meta package? should I just look for the hit with meta in it?
[02:51] <mado> i know it is a game for windows and mac ... but does anybody here own the game?
[02:51] <kyrksaeterora> mado I don't own it but I've played it
[02:51] <mado> i need someone who has the dvd ...
[02:51] <kyrksaeterora> whycome?
[02:52] <mado> to send me a file ... i found my cd with scratches and it could be that my brother did them accidently
[02:52] <mado> there is one file my computer can't read
[02:52] <mado> and i thought about copying this file
[02:53] <kyrksaeterora> if it's for backup type purposes (like this appears to be), I would search for a torrent with a cd image file and mount it using Daemon Tools or Alcohol 120% under windows
[02:53] <kyrksaeterora> you can probably find a .iso file easily
[02:53] <kyrksaeterora> I actually make all my discs into .iso files and use daemon to mount them, you get better load times and such
[02:54] <mado> i don't know anything about such stuff :|
[02:54] <kyrksaeterora> alright
[02:54] <kyrksaeterora> go to isohunt or mininova
[02:54] <kyrksaeterora> get a torrent
[02:54] <mado> i am currently just sad about the whole thing ...
[02:54] <kyrksaeterora> let it download
[02:54] <mado> the cd was a present
[02:54] <kyrksaeterora> but make sure it's a torrent for an .iso file
[02:54] <kyrksaeterora> once you have the whole .iso file, download daemon tools and install it.
[02:54] <mado> is this legal?
[02:55] <kyrksaeterora> yes
[02:55] <kyrksaeterora> if you legally own a physical copy
[02:55] <mado> i don't want the cops knocking at my door
[02:55] <mado> i own one ... i can also prove it
[02:55] <kyrksaeterora> then it's legal
[02:55] <mado> i hope it is in my country too
[02:55] <kyrksaeterora> so get daemon tools installed and it will make virtual CD drives.
[02:56] <kyrksaeterora> Then right click on the daemon tools logo in your task bar and mouse over a cd drive menu, select "mount"
[02:56] <mado> wait a sec kyrksaeterora ... first i have to find such a file you said
[02:56] <mado> and this program
[02:56] <kyrksaeterora> http://isohunt.com/torrent_details/50187483/spore?tab=summary
[02:56] <kyrksaeterora> do you know how to torrent?
[02:57] <mado> well ... i know opera can handle files like that
[02:57] <kyrksaeterora> fair enough
[02:57] <kyrksaeterora> get the .iso file from the .torrent
[02:57] <kyrksaeterora> mount the .iso with daemon tools
[02:57] <kyrksaeterora> it will act just like a CD drive would
[02:58] <mado> kyrksaeterora, what makes you sure 1) that this is legal? ... 2) that this is the right "iso"-file?
[02:58] <kyrksaeterora> 1) it's legal in the US because you own a copy already. If (and this is a big if) you come under questioning for downloading copyrighted material, you can state that the DMCA (digital millenium copyright act) allows you to digitally archive things you legall own
[02:59] <kyrksaeterora> 2) I can't be sure it's the right ISO file but I can sure as hell assume and for the most part, people upload the right file anwyays.
[02:59] <kyrksaeterora> When you buy/get a movie, music, game, etc
[03:00] <kyrksaeterora> you're not buying the material itself per se, you're buying the right to use it for yourself
[03:00] <kyrksaeterora> this includes the manipulation of format.
[03:00] <kyrksaeterora> Since you already own a copy of Spore, you technically own a license to it and can't get in trouble for having a digital copy.
[03:01] <mado> well ... i'm not so sure about that ... maybe it's just angst ... but ... thanks for your help ...
[03:02] <mado> do you think i can burn this file too?
[03:02] <mado> so that i have a new spore-dvd?
[03:02] <kyrksaeterora> if you have a DVD burner and a blank DVD, yes.
[03:02] <kyrksaeterora> You can use Nero (costs money) or my favorite, IMGBurn (free on the internet, legal) to burn the .iso file as a disc
[03:03] <mado> how about "infra recorder" ?
[03:03] <mado> do you know this one?
[03:03] <kyrksaeterora> never heard of it
[03:03] <mado> :)
[03:03] <Haircop27> hi
[03:04] <kyrksaeterora> hello Haircop27
[03:04] <Haircop27> This is my first time using the Konversation program
[03:04] <kyrksaeterora> it's pretty nifty huh
[03:04] <Haircop27> works well!
[03:04] <mado> well ... thank you for your help ... i will check a few things now
[03:04] <kyrksaeterora> sure does
[03:05] <kyrksaeterora> I'm on mIRC right now but when I'm on my laptop it's got kubuntu so
[03:05] <kyrksaeterora> everything on kubuntu is big though so I wish my laptop had a higher res =/
[03:06] <Stroud> hello
[03:06] <Stroud> :)
[03:06] <kyrksaeterora> hello Stroud
[03:07] <Tann> Hello
[03:07] <Stroud> Hi kyrksaeterora
[03:07] <Stroud> hello back Tann :^)
[03:07] <kyrksaeterora> how are you doing stroud
[03:07] <Stroud> I'm doing good kyrksaeterora..
[03:08] <kyrksaeterora> god I love my name in konsole
[03:08] <kyrksaeterora> it's kyrksaeterora@urgentfury~:
[03:08] <kyrksaeterora> kyrksaeterora@urgentfury sounds so cool
[03:09] <kyrksaeterora> i feel so geeky
[03:09] <kyrksaeterora> sitting here in a t-shirt and underwear configuring my linux box
[03:09] <mado> well kyrksaeterora ... i will be back ... thanks for your help ...
[03:09] <kyrksaeterora> and talking about dmca laws
[03:09] <kyrksaeterora> cya mado
[03:09] <Stroud> No i feel geeky. My OS is Kubunu runing on at compaq evo.
[03:10] <kyrksaeterora> compaq evo? i forget what that is
[03:10] <kyrksaeterora> tower/laptop/what
[03:10] <Stroud> laptop
[03:10] <kyrksaeterora> ah
[03:10] <kyrksaeterora> I have Kubuntu on my Dell Inspiron 5100
[03:11] <kyrksaeterora> upgrading to KDE4.1.2 as we speak
[03:11] <Stroud> cool.
[03:11] <kyrksaeterora> talking to you on my desktop, winXP though
[03:11] <kyrksaeterora> dual monitors on my desktop
[03:11] <kyrksaeterora> >_>
[03:11] <Stroud> hum ok.
[03:11] <Stroud> good old IRC.
[03:12] <kyrksaeterora> I loves me some IRC
[03:12] <kyrksaeterora> I wish I could grind it up, put it in a spoon, heat it up, mix it with some other fluids and inject it in my arm
[03:13] <artur_> what package should i install to have the libraries curses and ncurses?
[03:16] <Stroud> :D
[03:17] <artur_> ?
[03:18] <Absolutamente> Anybody out there?
[03:19] <Absolutamente> Hello?
[03:19]  * cuznt is always with himself
[03:19] <Absolutamente> Fine, Cuznt. Wanna talk?
[03:19] <cuznt> no not really.. i was only being smarmy
[03:20] <Absolutamente> Well, at least I know now that Konversation works. I havent used IRC for 15 yrs.
[03:21] <Absolutamente> Can I use characters in the Unicode space here without breaking anything?
[03:22] <Absolutamente> Hello?
[03:22] <Absolutamente> Hello?
[03:22] <cuznt> 15 years?
[03:22] <cuznt> wow
[03:22] <cuznt> i cant answer that question
[03:22]  * cuznt is not that smart yet
[03:22] <cuznt> even though i am 48...
[03:22] <cuznt> i just started
[03:22] <Stroud> :))
[03:23] <Stroud> anyone use youtube ?
[03:23] <Stroud> lol
[03:23] <Absolutamente> That's right. I took Ubuntu 8.10 beta for a test drive, and there it was -- Konversation.
[03:23] <artur_> what package should i install to have the libraries curses.h and ncurses.h?
[03:23] <Stroud> yes good old Konversation.
[03:23] <cuznt> !curses.h
[03:23] <Absolutamente> Testing some Unicode here: ščž (s, c and z with haček's)
[03:24] <tickleme_eddie> hello everyone
[03:24] <Absolutamente> Looked fine from here.
[03:24] <Stroud> hello tickleme_eddie ... how are you doing ?
[03:24] <tickleme_eddie> good how about ur slef
[03:24] <tickleme_eddie> 'self
[03:24] <Stroud> I'm ok..
[03:24] <tickleme_eddie> :P
[03:24] <Stroud> :D
[03:25] <Stroud> 1st time in a IRC chat...
[03:25] <Absolutamente> Are you 48? I thought IRC was aimed for teenagers. At least what it was back in 1994.
[03:25] <tickleme_eddie> yea i just installed kurumin and lookin around
[03:25] <Absolutamente> Š
[03:26] <tickleme_eddie> tryin to get use it
[03:26] <cuznt> ncurses.h has gone missing from the ncurses-5.3-1 packagee.  It's in
[03:26] <cuznt> ncurses-5.2-8 though.
[03:26] <cuznt> yes
[03:26] <cuznt> i started in 84 with a commadore
[03:26] <Absolutamente> I began using Linux in late '93.
[03:27] <cuznt> then was given a pile of parts that used to be a p2mx2 or something
[03:27] <Stroud> commadore 64 bit. lol.
[03:27] <cuznt> and i am an addict now
[03:27]  * cuznt tries to be a sponge
[03:27] <Stroud> : ok..
[03:27] <cuznt> soak it all in
[03:29] <Absolutamente> A bit boring. I think I'll rather go to bed instead. Where are you from? Europe? Which part of Europe, if so?
[03:29] <Stroud> bye I have to log out.
[03:29] <cuznt> bye
[03:29] <Absolutamente> Bye!
[03:29] <cuznt> i am a typical american
[03:30] <Absolutamente> Still evening at your place, then?
[03:31] <cuznt> quite
[03:31] <tickleme_eddie> does anyone know how i can reg a nickname
[03:31] <tickleme_eddie> ?
[03:31] <cuznt> yes
[03:31] <tickleme_eddie> ...
[03:31] <Absolutamente> Jörg Haider died in a car accident for just few days ago.
[03:32] <cuznt> type /nickserv register <password><emailaddy>
[03:32] <cuznt> but do not use thew <>'s
[03:33] <tickleme_eddie> tks
[04:03] <lpereira> ferf
[04:22] <ubuntu__> whats the magic for upgrading hardy-kde4 to kubuntu intrepid?
[04:22] <ubuntu__> (ie: I borked my install after a dist-upgrade)
[04:22] <ubuntu__> I had the no greeter found error, so I apt-get install kdm
[04:23] <ubuntu__> now kdm starts but it [crashes? -- blank screen] after logging in
[04:35] <eightmillion> I have intrepid set up with 4 desktops and the only one that shows anything is number 1. All the others are completely black. No panel, no plasmoids, no right click menu, no cashew. Anybody know anything about this?
[04:37] <eightmillion> Also, there's no 'zoom out' on the cashew any more.
[04:46] <memeemeee> anyone tell me how to load the battery applet?
[04:49] <memeemeee> someone tell me how to load the power applet in x?
[04:49] <memeemeee> sorry
[05:05] <mathieu> Hello
[05:05] <NamShub> I need help with Kubuntu Intrepid...
[05:08] <mr---t-> !intrepid
[05:09] <NamShub> Well this is probably "ubuntu" related but kde only because I managed to log in after installing openbox
[05:10] <NamShub> however kde is broken I get a screen with a bunch of weird characters
[05:20] <memeemeee> anyone know how to load battery applet in X11?
[05:27] <devo>  how can i reformat linux without haveing to put the disk into the dvd drive???
[05:29] <devo>  how can i reformat linux without haveing to put the disk into the dvd drive???
[05:31] <devo>   ok let me try to refraze the ?  how can i reinstall linux without any disk's???
[05:32] <manish> is there some way to tagg documents in Kubuntu 8.04 : like we do in technoratti or wordpress or for that matter any blog. i want t otagg all me documents and then use a search feature to find relevant docs when needed
[05:33] <manish> can u guys see my request. i am not sure whether my requests are seen in the IRC or not???
[05:35] <manish> guys is there something i can do to tag all my documents in KDE 3.5 like we do on blogs
[05:38] <manish> ok so does that mean, there is nothing to tag docs in ubuntu or kubuntu...right??
[05:39] <corigo> Command line for updating OS (again... got to put it in my notes... bad newbie, bad newbie)
[05:39] <manish> dr_willis: u there today ... Do you know someting about this... ?
[05:45] <draik> Does anyone here using Kopete get the following error from Y! Messenger: "Error 1 - Name lookup has failed". I can't seem to re/connect to Yahoo for about a minute of constant retries.
[05:54] <NamShub> Ok so I can login in a "KDE/OpenBox" session
[05:54] <NamShub> so it really seems the problem is KWin
[05:59] <aaron__> trying to setup wacom on ibex I copied the fdi file and can can get some output from wacomdmp on ttyS0  but for the life of me I can't get the two connected
[06:08] <DarthFrog> corigo: "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" all one one line.
[06:17] <scriptx> does anyone know how to get s-video output working?
[06:47] <peterh1977> morning all i have a problem with intel iwl3945 wifi anyone here have any idears?
[06:47] <peterh1977> i cant spell by the way
[06:48] <peterh1977> anyone see what im typing?
[06:48] <peterh1977> ping me
[06:50] <peterh1977> anyone here??
[06:52] <Tann> peterh1977: I am here
[06:55] <peterh1977> any info on intel/PRO wireless?
[06:55] <peterh1977> cannot connest
[06:55] <peterh1977> connect even
[06:56] <peterh1977> am very tired have been up all night reading forum posts
[07:43] <Ash-Fox> What could I execute to make a message popup (using say, via a cronjob) from another account to my KDE3 desktop?
[07:46] <ubuntu> kubuntu sucks
[07:46] <ubuntu> you all fucking suck
[07:46] <ubuntu> go fuck yourself
[07:46] <ubuntu> ill kick your ass irl
[07:46] <ubuntu> stupid geeks
[07:47] <Tm_T> awww
[07:47] <Tm_T> how sweet
[07:47] <MrDarkUser> so /ignore is nice
[07:47] <simula> trolls need love too
[07:47] <Tm_T> MrDarkUser: nah
[07:48] <MrDarkUser> I just want my wacom tablet to work.
[08:03] <brendan_> hry
[08:03] <brendan_> hey
[08:03] <brendan_> just got wireless working on kubuntu finally =)
[08:18] <Goan> do we some smart text editor with features like block mode in kubuntu... notepad++/textpad in windows
[08:18] <Goan> do we have*
[08:23] <elrich> wow whuts that?
[08:34] <jussi01> Goan: most people rate kate fairly highly
[08:35] <cryingtux> hello
[08:35] <cryingtux> i want to add ubuntu repos to my debian installation
[08:36] <cryingtux>  can somebody guide me where can i find  repos.lst?
[08:36] <cryingtux> i need few packages from ubuntu repos
[08:36] <cryingtux> casper and ubiquity
[08:39] <nafunu> Hello, New user of Kubunto looking for documentation.
[08:39] <nafunu> Anyone have a URL where I can find a manual?
[08:51] <Goan> tks jussi, it is worth it too. :)
[08:52] <Tm_T> nafunu: topic?
[08:52] <nafunu> Im looking for a kubuntu manual
[08:53] <nafunu> I just installed Kubuntu and Im having trouble installing Secondlife...
[08:53] <Tm_T> !secondlife
[08:53] <Tm_T> interesting
[08:53] <nafunu> Its not a package as are most apps Ive foind
[08:53] <Tm_T> !games
[08:53] <nafunu> hmm, thanks
[09:12] <gerardo_> ciao
[09:12] <Tm_T> ciao tutti, huvitutti juu
[09:18] <ratchet4620> anybody alive in here?
[09:24]  * Tm_T slaps Ratchet|sleep 
[09:26] <Ash-Fox> I am trying to figure out how to send a message to a specific logged in user on a machine running KDE3.9. I have found that I cannot get messages displayed, if I use write or wall. I've tried googling for something for popping up messages. I've tried googling for information on how to do it in dbus and kded but I just find a lot of unrelated content. Any ideas?
[09:26] <kubuntu_> mr.jhon
[09:27] <Ash-Fox> Sorry, KDE3.5.9
[09:29] <bentob0x> there was an error while doing the fsck on a HD, in the /var/log/fsck/ folder there are two files: checkfs and checkroot, none of them have the report, where can I find it?
[09:29] <cagnazzo> anyone got any information as to why scrollkeeper update is pwning my cpu with 100% usage?
[09:31] <eduardo> oi
[09:32] <Ash-Fox> Why on Earth is it so difficult to send graphical popup messages in Kubuntu/Debian, in any other distro I use 'write'.
[09:32] <Tm_T> Ash-Fox: it isn't difficult, I do the same
[09:33] <Ash-Fox> Tm_T, it isn't working here, at all.
[09:34] <Ash-Fox> write: ash-fox has messages disabled <- kwrited just isn't listening for messages
[09:35] <Ash-Fox> Tm_T, so, how is it working there?
[09:36] <Tm_T> it just works
[09:38] <Ash-Fox> Tm_T, and you're using kubuntu hardy with kde 3.5.9
[09:38] <Tm_T> nope
[09:38] <Tm_T> I was using a long time ago
[09:39] <Ash-Fox> Tm_T, this issue exists on a fresh install of kubuntu hardy.
[09:39] <Tm_T> hmm, I have no fresh installs here
[09:50] <Ash-Fox> What the hell
[09:50] <Ash-Fox> Writing to /dev/pts/0 works absolutely fine
[09:50] <Ash-Fox> kwrited will popup then, but wall isn't sending messages there?
[09:50] <Tm_T> Ash-Fox: user has no rights / isn't in some group ?
[09:50] <Tm_T> or stuff
[09:51] <Ash-Fox> Tm_T, I can do a 'echo blah >/dev/pts/0', 'echo blah |wall" and 'echo blah| sudo wall' have no effect.
[09:52] <Tm_T> no idea
[10:05] <frank_> hello everyone .....
[10:06] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[10:06] <frank_> does anyone know some Python irc ??
[10:08] <ActionParsnip> try in #pyton
[10:08] <ActionParsnip> #python
[10:09]  * ActionParsnip wishes he could type
[10:10] <cryingtux> hello
[10:11] <cryingtux> ! repo
[10:14] <cryingtux> why is that when i click manage repo on adept , instead of opening the option ro manage repos it just starts reloading repos
[10:14] <cryingtux> something looks wrong with adept
[10:15] <ActionParsnip> cryingtux: are you running the app with kdesudo ?
[10:15] <cryingtux> i want to add ftp://mirror.anl.gov/pub/ubuntu as it is fastest for me but adept keeps on reloading repos instead of giving me chance to change it
[10:16] <cryingtux> ActionParsnip: kdesudo ?
[10:16] <cryingtux> sorry im not aware of that
[10:16] <cryingtux> im running it from livecd, i wanna set repos first before i commit for installation
[10:17] <ActionParsnip> cryingtux: you cant administer a system without root access, sudo gives it for cli apps, kdesudo is for gui apps
[10:17] <ActionParsnip> cryingtux: kdesudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:17] <cryingtux> ActionParsnip: i ran adept from livecd
[10:18] <cryingtux> ok i  try that
[10:18] <cryingtux> ActionParsnip: but why i dont get option in adept to change servers
[10:18] <ActionParsnip> cryingtux: just type them at the bottom of that file
[10:18] <cryingtux> that option seems missing
[10:18] <ActionParsnip> cryingtux: ive never used it
[10:19] <ActionParsnip> cryingtux: to me it makes no sense when its far simpler to just paste the desired repos into that file
[10:19] <ActionParsnip> cryingtux: remember to sudo apt-get update after
[10:19] <cryingtux> ActionParsnip: i paste what i have
[10:20] <cryingtux> ! paste
[10:20] <ActionParsnip> cryingtux: so much easier than using the stupid gui isnt it
[10:21] <cryingtux> http://paste.ubuntu.com/60043/
[10:21] <szuper-t> hali
[10:21] <cryingtux> ActionParsnip: please have a look, something is wrong here as i got this error
[10:22] <ActionParsnip> what error?
[10:22] <cryingtux> http://paste.ubuntu.com/60045/
[10:22] <cryingtux> ActionParsnip: i guess i added some repos wrongly
[10:22] <ActionParsnip> cryingtux: is the system able to access the web?
[10:23] <cryingtux> this is the main server im trying to add ftp://mirror.anl.gov/pub/ubuntu
[10:23] <cryingtux> ActionParsnip: yes im talking to you via the same live session
[10:23] <cryingtux> i can browse
[10:24] <cryingtux> i have messed up something in repo thats why that error
[10:24] <Jahman> hi
[10:24] <ActionParsnip> cryingtux: here's my sources.list
[10:24] <ActionParsnip> http://pastebin.com/f4f697239
[10:24] <cryingtux> i will have a look
[10:24] <ActionParsnip> cryingtux: then undo what you did and you'll be back to square 1
[10:25] <ActionParsnip> cryingtux: why dont you do this when the system is installed??
[10:25] <cryingtux> ActionParsnip: i will use your list rather if the server is fast :)
[10:25] <cryingtux> i can add keys anyways
[10:26] <cryingtux> ActionParsnip: brb pls, and thanks for guidance
[10:27] <ActionParsnip> cryingtux: i dunno about fast, it just works for me
[10:50] <deftone> how do i get my menu back  on a window?
[10:53] <omfgitsashar1> hey can anybody explain how i install a program from a .tar file
[10:53] <deftone> my konsole window docked itself after i removed the menu bar...dont' want that so i need to change it back
[10:53] <omfgitsashar1> can anybody help me out
[10:57] <deftone> omfg do u know how i can re-enable the menu on a window?
[10:58] <omfgitsashar1> huh
[10:59] <freaky_t> no idea there must be a key combo :D
[11:01] <deftone> damn i can't figure it out
[11:02] <fritz> hi, when a folder icon clicked on left side of the konqueror, dolphin starts!. wanna keep working with konqueror at the moment. that's annoying man, how can i fix that?
[11:03] <deftone> how do you instal ndiswrapper in kubuntu?
[11:04] <deftone> i just got away from fedora and that uses yum
[11:04] <deftone> what does ubuntu use?
[11:04] <jussi01> deftone: using adept
[11:04] <emilsedgh> deftone: you dont need it
[11:04] <deftone> i do for my wireless
[11:04] <total> Hello! Help me, I have 2 questions
[11:04] <emilsedgh> deftone: go to System Settings->Advanced->Restricted manager
[11:04] <emilsedgh> !ask | total
[11:04] <jussi01> but yeah, the new broadcom driver is pretty good.
[11:05] <total> (sory my bad english)
[11:05] <emilsedgh> hi jussio1 :)
[11:05] <jussi01> heya emilsedgh
[11:05] <total> 1. How I can save Icon size in dolphin in every folders?
[11:05] <deftone> i don't see restricted manager
[11:06] <jussi01> deftone: which version are you running?
[11:06] <deftone> 8.10
[11:06] <emilsedgh> total: in KDE 4 go to Dolphin->Settings->Configure Dolphin->View Modes
[11:06] <deftone> beta
[11:06] <jussi01> deftone: system -> hardware drivers
[11:07] <total> 2. How I can chenge default folder icon?
[11:07] <total> *change
[11:07] <total> (KDE 3.5.9)
[11:07] <fritz> total: run kcontrol
[11:08] <deftone> ya i have the marvell on a gateway m-6750
[11:08] <total> fritz: and?
[11:08] <deftone> so i have to use ndiswrapper...already know what i have to do to install ...just don't know how to get it
[11:08] <jussi01> deftone: no, the hardware nmanger should do it for you..
[11:09] <deftone> it told me no proprietary drivers installed on this system
[11:09] <fritz> total: go to: display and themes / icons
[11:09] <jussi01> deftone: so anyway, for installing stuff generally, adept is the package management front end for apt
[11:10] <deftone> so something like          adept ndiswrapper   ?
[11:10] <total> fritz: I dont want change theme or style, I want change folder icon only =)
[11:10] <jussi01> deftone: no
[11:11] <jussi01> deftone: adept is the front end - graphical manager - like synaptic
[11:11] <fritz> total: so you could at there, spesifically.
[11:11] <jussi01> !ndiswrapper | deftone
[11:12] <deftone> i already know how to use ndiswrapper and configure my inf and sys files...what's the command to install ndiswrapper package?
[11:12] <total> fritz: On every folder? No, its so hard. I want change DEFAULT folder icon. =(
[11:13] <deftone> oh nevermind i'll use ndisgtk
[11:13] <jussi01> deftone: ahh
[11:13] <jussi01> deftone: sudo apt-get install <package-name>
[11:13] <total> fritz: May be default folder icon in specific folder?
[11:13] <total> (file)
[11:14] <fritz> total: right click on an folder icon which you know it's default folder, properties / then click on the icon holder button on left-top
[11:15] <deftone> i switched over from fedora so i just gotta get used to the slight change in commands
[11:17] <total> fritz: Sank you very mach!
[11:17] <total> *Thank
[11:18] <fritz> hey i want my rank!
[11:18] <jussi01> !apt | deftone
[11:20] <blackflag> Hello all :) someone using mandriva directory server on ubuntu? Or Fedora directory server ? And can help?
[11:24] <deftone> in fedora i had to create the ndiswrapper_drivers folder...is that true for ubuntu as well?
[11:27] <jussi01> deftone: no, seriously, go read the how to on the sitee the bot gave you ;)
[11:27] <jussi01> !ndiswrapper | deftone
[11:43] <byron_> hey
[11:43] <byron_> I need some help with internet connection???
[11:44] <byron_> ?
[11:49] <oz_> ...
[11:50] <Defense|Twin> Hi, is there a place where i can find a boot.img.gz like here http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/intrepid/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/ but for kubuntu?
[11:52] <oz_> hmm
[11:52] <ubuntu> hi
[11:52] <oz_> hi
[11:54] <oz_> boot.img.gz like here http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/intrepid/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/ but for kubuntu?
[11:55] <jarnos> Can digikam have albums in e.g. USB drive?
[11:56] <Defense|Twin> oz_: ?
[11:57] <oz_> no i don't find
[11:57] <oz_> http://www.pendrivelinux.com/ ?
[11:58] <oz_> USB Kubuntu 8.04.1 Persistent install from Linux http://www.pendrivelinux.com/2008/05/15/usb-kubuntu-804-persistent-install-from-linux/
[11:58] <oz_> ok ?
[11:58] <Defense|Twin> no i would like to have a 8.10 image
[11:59] <Defense|Twin> hmm maybe i should install ubuntu and afterwards switching to kubuntu
[11:59] <oz_> ""wget mirrors.gigenet.com/ubuntu/kubuntu/hardy/kubuntu-8.04.1-desktop-i386.iso""
[12:00] <oz_> do you install KDE on the USB ?
[12:00] <Defense|Twin> no i only want to install from usb not on
[12:01] <oz_> yes use CD for install on the USB
[12:02] <byron__> can ne1 help with internet connections???
[12:02] <oz_> http://www.pendrivelinux.com/2008/05/15/usb-kubuntu-804-persistent-install-from-linux/
[12:02] <Defense|Twin> oz_: i have an eeepc, and this eeepc has no cdrom.
[12:02] <oz_> but for install ubuntu on your flash driver you do reboot
[12:02] <byron__> I am connected to internet through dialup but cant access web pages in browser???
[12:02] <Defense|Twin> and i would like o install kubuntu on this eeepc.
[12:02] <oz_> ha OK
[12:03] <oz_> byron restart
[12:03] <oz_> reboot
[12:03] <byron__> have done - no luck!
[12:03] <oz_> other work ?
[12:03] <Defense|Twin> byron_ ping google.com?
[12:04] <Defense|Twin> (dns works?)
[12:04] <byron__> sorry noobie how da ping google.com?
[12:04] <oz_> Defens|Twin mount iso manuelly
[12:05] <oz_> "ping google.com" on the terminal
[12:05] <oz_> he go !
[12:05] <oz_> ...
[12:05] <Defense|Twin> lol
[12:05] <oz_> what your age ?
[12:05] <oz_> ah ok
[12:05] <Defense|Twin> google answerd with DoS :P
[12:05] <oz_> "ping google.com" on the terminal
[12:06] <byron__> ok - one sec
[12:06] <deftone7> is network manager installed by default?
[12:06] <oz_> defens mount iso manuelly
[12:06] <byron__> yeah can ping google.com
[12:07] <oz_> what your web brower ?
[12:07] <oz_> test with firefox
[12:07] <oz_> defens French?deutsch?
[12:07] <byron__> i am using konqueror
[12:08] <byron__> (just installed kubuntu)
[12:08] <Defense|Twin> oz_: deutsch
[12:08] <oz_> install fireofx
[12:08] <oz_> firefox*
[12:08] <byron__> just get message
[12:08] <byron__> An error occurred while loading http://google.co.uk:
[12:08] <byron__> Could not connect to host http://google.co.uk/.
[12:08] <Defense|Twin> byron_: which kubuntu version did you install?
[12:09] <byron__> 8.04 64bit from CD
[12:09] <oz_> 10day for 8.10...
[12:09] <oz_> 64bit woaw
[12:09] <oz_> i have 32bit on AMD64
[12:10] <oz_> test firefox
[12:10] <byron__> i have 32bit cd as well, should i just install this?
[12:10] <byron__> where do i get firefox if i cant get to webpage?
[12:11] <Defense|Twin> you can install software with adept
[12:11] <oz_> "K"->"??/delete programs"->"firefox"
[12:12] <deftone7> o.k i'm got everything loaded for my wireless using ndiswrapper but can't seem to start it up
[12:12] <deftone7> any ideas?
[12:12] <oz_> ""sudo apt-get install firefox""
[12:13] <deftone7> i'm connected through my ethernet right now but my little globe dissappeared
[12:15] <oz_> reboot after connected with ethernet
[12:15] <oz_> and defense ok ?
[12:15] <oz_> download iso kubuntu
[12:15] <oz_> mount manualy
[12:16] <oz_> and install on your flash drive
[12:16] <oz_> http://www.pendrivelinux.com/2008/05/15/usb-kubuntu-804-persistent-install-from-linux/
[12:22] <deftone7> o.k got my wireless setup.....what's the command to enable it on reboots?
[12:23] <oz_> i don't now
[12:23] <byron__> OZ - I have downloaded firefox and can now view web pages! Thanks very much for your help
[12:29] <deftone> sorry had to log out.....anyone know the command to enable the wireless on rebooting?
[12:29] <ubuntu> hi, I am trying to get  in a linux system by booting from the cd, the file system is jfs but it does not get recognized, what module do i need  to load in order to see my jfd partitions?
[12:29] <ubuntu> jfs
[12:30] <oz_> kubuntu don't know jfs i think
[12:31] <oz_> fedora core ?
[12:34] <ubuntu> in syslog I find this, anybody knows what it means?:
[12:34] <ubuntu> ubuntu@ubuntu:/var/log$ dmesg | grep sd
[12:34] <ubuntu> [   57.109923] Driver 'sd' needs updating - please use bus_type methods
[12:36] <oz_> 6.06 ?
[12:36] <ubuntu> uh?
[12:37] <deftone> anyone know how to enable my wireless after a reboot?
[12:40] <oz_> ubuntu, ubuntu 6 or 8 ?
[12:40] <oz_> sorry deftone*
[12:40] <oz_> deftone see on option of KNetworkManager
[12:46] <deftone> i click on knetwork manager but nothing happens.
[12:47] <deftone> maybe it didn't install correctly?
[12:47] <oz_> ""sudo apt-get install -f" in the terminal
[12:48] <oz_> nothing ???
[12:48] <oz_> right click, and left click ??
[12:48] <deftone> nothing at all....
[12:49] <deftone> right click just gives me the option to remove from the list or add to favorites
[12:51] <oz_> i don't know man
[12:53] <kymoie> kde4
[12:56] <eduardo> hi all
[12:59] <KillerJinn> how to run windows inside linux?
[13:02] <webas> KillerJinn use virtualbox
[13:03] <webas> KillerJinn http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ch8X86R6d-g&feature=related i always liked this simple tutorial... very easy :)
[13:03] <oz_> hi
[13:04] <oz_> virtualbox killer
[13:04] <oz_> +1 for webas
[13:09] <webas> :D
[13:10] <oz_> lol
[13:10] <oz_> ...
[13:11] <webas> the main big minus for virtualbox is that it doesnt support hardware video card
[13:11] <webas> runs only as software :(
[13:15] <KillerJinn> k
[13:15] <KillerJinn> any app similer to ms paint in windows ?
[13:16] <kymoie> Kolour
[13:16] <KillerJinn> kymoie ? me
[13:16] <kymoie> KillerJinn: yes
[13:17] <KillerJinn> k
[13:18] <kymoie> KillerJinn: make that 'Kolourpaint'
[13:20] <W8TAH> hi folks - can someone please point me to a reference on how to "tell Gstreamer to use pulseaudio"?
[13:20] <jussi01> W8TAH: thats more a question for #ubuntu
[13:21] <jussi01> we dont use either of those over here at kubuntu ;)
[13:21] <W8TAH> oh - -ok -- sorry
[13:21] <W8TAH> ummm -- pulseaudio is the default engine for kubuntu 8.10
[13:23] <oz_> KolourPaint !!
[13:23] <oz_> i use 3-4 app and the best is kolourpaint in the kubuntu package
[13:25] <JackWinter> i'm running descent under wine.  when i come back to the kde desktop all non maximized windows have become small strips in the upper left corner with the title bar off screen.  kubuntu 8.04 no compiz.  any ideas ?
[13:25] <JackWinter> descent in an opengl game
[13:26] <kopertone_> hi
[13:26] <kopertone_>  :-[
[13:26] <oz_> hi
[13:34] <Dragonath> hi, how can I change my screen resolution_
[13:34] <Dragonath> actually scratch that
[13:35] <Dragonath> turns out I need to reconfigure my x server
[13:36] <oz_> "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop"
[13:37] <Dragonath> and that's it?
[13:40] <oz_> quit X
[13:41] <Dragonath> then sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[13:41] <oz_> yes
[13:42] <Dragonath> ok
[13:42] <oz_> note on the paper before
[13:42] <oz_> ;)
[13:42] <oz_> lol........
[13:43] <manish> is it possible to get updated mails in thunderbird
[13:44] <oz_> i don't know
[13:46] <Dragonath> reconfiguring the x server didn't help with my resolution at all
[13:47] <Dragonath> ah fixed now
[13:51] <brigante_> ehooo kubuntu hahahaha
[13:51] <oz_> what ?
[13:51] <brigante_> are there kubuntus hahahaa
[13:51] <brigante_> nothing man
[13:51] <brigante_> just say hello to all
[13:51] <brigante_> ok the channel work hah
[13:52] <brigante_> the test done:))))))))))
[13:56] <cryingtux> ! sources.lst
[13:56] <cryingtux> hello
[13:57] <noam_> is it advisable to install flash 10 on kubuntu 8.04 manually?
[13:58] <cryingtux> i want to add ftp://mirror.anl.gov/pub/ubuntu as the server for all my apt sources list, how do i do it?
[13:58] <cryingtux> i cant figure out the settings for different sections
[13:58] <noam_> cryingtux: adept and synaptic can both do that
[13:58] <cryingtux> noam_: yea i tried
[14:00] <cryingtux> in adept it is more easy but somehow when i click manage repos in adept, instead of opening the option to select a server it just reloads the already repos
[14:00] <cryingtux> so i cant change anything
[14:03] <noam_> then try synaptic, or take a look at /etc/apt/sources.list
[14:03] <noam_> how about flash 10? is there any harm in installing it manually?
[14:31] <Under_Wraps> noam_: I used the flash10.tar.gz from Adobe and installed it in Gutsy
[14:31] <oz_> ans ?
[14:31] <noam_> i've installed it already, and it seems to work :)
[14:32] <oz_> i use flash in the package
[14:32] <Under_Wraps> it works fine here in Opera
[14:32] <noam_> it doesn't work in konqueror...
[14:32] <noam_> i think it's because the .so files was moved to someplace else on the filesystem
[14:37] <cryingtux> hello
[14:37] <oz_> hello
[14:37] <cryingtux> oz_: hello
[14:37] <cryingtux> can you help with setting repos?
[14:37] <Under_Wraps> Konqueror can scan for new plugins, have a look in the settings
[14:38] <Vista> "settings repos" ?
[14:38] <cryingtux> Vista: yea, i have some confusion here
[14:38] <Vista> what is "repos" ?
[14:38] <Under_Wraps> repositories!!
[14:39] <cryingtux> :)
[14:39] <cryingtux> yea
[14:39] <cryingtux> Under_Wraps: what is the difference bewteen archives and official repos?
[14:39] <Vista> ah ok
[14:40] <Under_Wraps> I have no idea
[14:40] <cryingtux> if you look here it gives the option to choose main repos
[14:40] <cryingtux> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+mirror/mirror.anl.gov
[14:40] <Pici> !repos
[14:41] <cryingtux> but then there are archives and i was wondering if i can set archives from same server or not?
[14:41] <noam_> Under_Wraps: it only plays sounds, video does not work
[14:41] <cryingtux> or the archives have to be only main ubuntu servers?
[14:42] <noam_> not just video i mean, display. it shows a gray rectangle
[14:43] <Under_Wraps> Have you tried reloading the page or other Flash files
[14:43] <noam_> Under_Wraps: huh, weird, it works if you reload
[14:45] <Under_Wraps> cryingtux: maybe the 'archives' have older / previous versions, 'official' only has the versions supported in that release, but IDK
[14:46] <cryingtux> its a big confusion
[14:46] <noam_> but it's not really usable, is it? i tried playing a youtube video in fullscreen and then it pretty much froze. i killed it from command prompt (ctrl alt f1)
[14:46] <cryingtux> in debian and other distros you just wget......and you get all repos added automatically, but here its so different
[14:47] <Under_Wraps> I've only used Kubuntu, Windows and Apple
[14:48] <willluongo> cryingtux: (K)ubuntu is debian based, the functionality in most ways is the same... what are you trying to do?
[14:51] <cryingtux_> willluongo: im just trying to add the server which is fast for me
[14:51] <cryingtux_> but the options are so confusing
[14:51] <willluongo> cryingtux_: So you are trying to change the main repository/
[14:52] <willluongo> oops, that should have been?
[14:52] <cryingtux_> yea
[14:52] <willluongo> cryingtux_: Just like in debian, add it to /etc/apt/sources.list
[14:52] <cryingtux_> i will paste what i have set now
[14:52] <cryingtux_> wait 1 sec pls
[14:52] <willluongo> cryingtux_: ok :)
[14:52] <cryingtux_> i guess this time i am all set
[14:53] <StasOn> please HELP!!
[14:53] <cryingtux_> willluongo: first i wanted to get this server
[14:53] <Vista> what ?
[14:53] <cryingtux_> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+mirror/mirror.anl.gov
[14:53] <StasOn> how to login as root in graphic mode (Ubuntu 6.06)
[14:54] <willluongo> StasOn: That is disabled by default, enable it in user options
[14:54] <cryingtux_> and after i have added all it looks like this http://paste.ubuntu.com/60123/
[14:55] <StasOn> and how to enable it in user options? =) I'm new in linux
[14:55] <cryingtux_> and apt-get update loaded all fine, so i guess im good to go with it?
[14:55] <Mr-S> StasOn try: sudo su && passwd in konsole to activate the account
[14:55] <cryingtux_> willluongo:
[14:55] <cryingtux_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/60123/
[14:55] <willluongo> cryingtux_ ya, if apt-get update didn't fail then you are good to go?
[14:56] <willluongo> not a question, I am just punctuation impaired today lol
[14:56] <StasOn> thx. I'll try
[14:56] <cryingtux_> i guess i am . lets hit the repos and see if i get any stuff
[14:57] <Mr-S> StasOn : sudo su will give you root shell , passwd will prompt you to setup a password
[14:57] <Vista> bye all
[14:57] <StasOn> But I need root in graphic mode, not only in shell =)
[14:58] <Mr-S> When booting to GUI Login, you should then be able to use : Login root
[14:58] <cryingtux_> willluongo: i ran apt-get update once again, double check, it bring no errors , so i will do some apt-get upgrade
[14:58] <Mr-S> StasOn why do you need root account ?
[15:00] <cryingtux_> thanks, k-ubuntu people, i need to get a full upgrade to kde 3.5.10, kde 4 is not for me, nah nah !
[15:00] <StasOn> I need to setup my network, install drivers and programs.
[15:00] <geek> cryingtux_:
[15:00] <Mr-S> you do not need root access for those
[15:00] <Mr-S> Netweork: wireless or wired ?
[15:00] <geek> you might needs backports for that. then just install kubuntu-desktop
[15:01] <cryingtux_> geek: backports?
[15:01] <StasOn> In GUI login windows I try to login as root..But linux says me? that it is inpossible =)
[15:01] <cryingtux_> do i need to enable that repos as well?
[15:01] <StasOn> network wired)
[15:01] <willluongo> StasOn: just use alt f2, then kdesu whatever gui setup upi are ;pplomg fpr
[15:01] <geek> cryingtux_: IIRC 3.5.10 is on backports
[15:01] <Mr-S> Yep because ubuntu uses a different approach.
[15:01] <geek> so yea, you need to
[15:01] <willluongo> setup gui you are looking for even
[15:01] <Mr-S> Installing software : apt-get repository
[15:02] <geek> apt-get appname you mean ;p
[15:02] <cryingtux_> geek: ok i will do that too
[15:02] <Mr-S> network, simple fire up the network tool ( Knetwork if i am not mistaken)
[15:02] <cryingtux_> thanks again
[15:02] <Mr-S> yep sorry , typo
[15:02] <StasOn> thanks
[15:03] <Mr-S> StasOn you are using Kubuntu or Ubuntu ?
[15:05] <Freku> this is the kubuntu channel
[15:06] <ghettoblaster> hi all ;)
[15:13] <Mr-S> .
[15:16] <Skii>  does anyone know how to take a dvd movie and turn it into a avi???
[15:17] <Skii>  does anyone know how to take a dvd movie and turn it into a avi???
[15:17] <genii> Ask and run, ask and run. People are so impatient.
[15:18] <trappist> it's true.  doesn't bother me though, unless they take off in the middle of me typing to them.
[15:18] <trappist> like Skii.
[15:18] <genii> trappist: I was going to recommend acidrip to him just then
[15:20] <trappist> I haven't tried acidrip.  I was gonna say DVD::Rip
[15:20] <noam_> flash 9 works a lot better, performance wise :/
[15:32] <ubuntu__> hi, somebody managed to break in my server, I have changed already each user password and the root password, what more should I check to make sure they have not left some back door?
[15:32] <genii> ubuntu__: Run a rootkit check as well
[15:33] <ubuntu__> how do I do that?
[15:33] <trappist> ubuntu__: first, how do you know someone broke in?  second, do you know how they broke in?  and last, do you know if the attacker was able to gain root access?
[15:33] <trappist> !info chkrootkit
[15:34] <ubuntu__> all I could see was I could not log in anymore with my user (root was still active), the latest auth.log was one week old, the mail service stopped working
[15:34] <trappist> ubuntu__: if the attacker had root access at any time, the only thing to do is scrap the server and reinstall.  you can't trust any of your binaries.
[15:35] <trappist> ubuntu__: are you sure your hard drive didn't just fill up?
[15:35] <ubuntu__> yup
[15:35] <ubuntu__> the server ahs been mostly idle, serving mail for two people
[15:35] <trappist> ubuntu__: do you mean the contents of auth.log are a week old, or the timestamp on the file was a week old?
[15:35] <ubuntu__> the point is I have no way to  find out how they got in
[15:36] <ubuntu__> I managed to log in that server today and I had today's file and the previous one was a week old
[15:36] <ubuntu__> meaning, I guess , somebody deleted that file for a week or so
[15:36] <trappist> ubuntu__: one thing to do with or without a breakin is to set up ssh to do key-only authentication - no passwords
[15:37] <genii> Also move ssh off of 22
[15:37] <trappist> ubuntu__: that's not necessarily a valid assumption.  a lot of things could have gone wrong, and it's possible the auth log is old because nobody's been logging in
[15:37] <ubuntu__> well, at least the cron logs should be there
[15:37] <trappist> genii: I call that security through obscurity.  it might slow somebody down, but it won't be hard to find with a port scan.
[15:38] <genii> trappist: True. But most of the login-bots look by default to 22
[15:38] <trappist> ubuntu__: unless syslog failed, /var temporarily filled up, or several other possibilities
[15:38] <genii> Yes, it happens sometimes that /var gets full or corrupted. Then the system gets in aloop trying to write to /var/log that the /var is messy, etc etc
[15:39] <ubuntu__> well, I have just circumstancial evidence, as I said, my login was not working, and two mail user logins were not working either, that would be three password screwed up
[15:39] <ubuntu__> all at once
[15:39] <ubuntu__> but not the root password
[15:39] <trappist> plus, if you're doing key-only authentication and you keep your software up to date, there's no known way to compromise ssh, even with brute force
[15:39] <Freku> or a defective keyboard
[15:39] <ubuntu__> I will read something about key-only autentication, at the moment I do not   know waht you are feferring to
[15:40] <trappist> ubuntu__: it might have nothing to do with passwords - logins can fail for lots of reasons that have nothing to do with an attack.  but if someone did manage to change those passwords, they had root access, and you can't trust that server anymore
[15:40] <trappist> so it's worth some more effort to try to find out what really happened
[15:41] <ubuntu__> what should I look for?
[15:41] <ubuntu__> I am in uncharted territory
[15:41] <trappist> ubuntu__: try to find the most recent syslog entry in /var/log/messages and/or /var/log/syslog before things went quiet
[15:42] <trappist> if the server's been up the whole time (no reboots since the problem started) also run dmesg and look for evidence of filesystem damage
[15:42] <genii> You can see if password changes were issued by shell by looking at .bash_history    of each user
[15:43] <ubuntu__> they only unix user is mine, the others are virtual users just for mail purpose and in my history there is no such thing
[15:43] <genii> If they erased logs, they don't always think to remove the history of their commands issued to to it
[15:43] <genii> *to do it
[15:43] <trappist> ubuntu__: also check your mail logs - you should be able to find out there whether users couldn't log in because the password was changed or if there was some other failure
[15:44] <ubuntu__> I'll be back, I need to restart this session, one sec
[15:44] <trappist> again, filesystem damage and temporarily full partitions are the most likely culprits
[15:46] <sunyu> hello everyone~
[15:47] <dwidmann> hi
[15:49] <bentob0x> anybody has performance issues on KDE 4 without using the desktop effects?
[15:49] <SSJ_GZ> bentob0x: nVidia users may well have.
[15:50] <bentob0x> hmm
[15:50] <bentob0x> I do have an nvidia
[15:50] <bentob0x> is it better to use non-proprietary drivers?
[15:50] <genii> When possible
[15:51] <SSJ_GZ> bentob0x: Many people claim that VESA is faster than nvidia for KDE4.  VESA!
[15:55] <ubuntu__> according to the log the last thing the pc has done was to update the antivirus
[15:58] <ubuntu__> I am looking at /var/log/messages and for three days the only thing I can find is  Oct 18 16:15:52 stakhanov -- MARK --
[15:58] <ubuntu__> and one Oct 18 06:52:12 stakhanov syslogd 1.5.0#1ubuntu1: restart
[15:59] <ubuntu__> I dis not ask the system to restart
[16:00] <ubuntu__> does any of this point to a break in?
[16:00] <trappist> ubuntu__: not definitively, by any means
[16:01] <trappist> -- MARK -- goes into the logs so you know syslog is still running, when it doesn't have anything else to talk about
[16:01] <ubuntu__> what the heck is that  -- MARK --  ? is seems there to cover something
[16:01] <ubuntu__> ok
[16:01] <ubuntu__> one of you guys were mentioning a way to do a rootkit check, coul dyou be o kind to tell me (again) how to do it? I lost the history
[16:01] <vonkleist> ubuntu__, just for the record... are you running kubuntu on your server?
[16:02] <ubuntu__> no, I am typing currently from another pc where I booted the live cd
[16:02] <ubuntu__> that is the kubuntu you see
[16:02] <ubuntu__> the server is an ubuntu server
[16:05] <ubuntu__> one of you guys were mentioning a way to do a rootkit check, coul dyou be o kind to tell me (again) how to do it? I lost the history
[16:05] <genii> !info chkrootkit
[16:06] <ubuntu__> ah, another strange thing I failed to mention, another thing that was broken was the xterm program, I had to reinstall it
[16:08] <trappist> ubuntu__: I think you should be looking for evidence of filesystem damage
[16:09] <ubuntu__> I understand where you are coming from
[16:12] <trappist> best way to do that is with fsck, and you'll have to take partitions offline for that.  your best bet might be to just reboot, so if there are filesystems with errors they'll be checked automatically.
[16:12] <genii> He's on livecd so could fsck them safely
[16:12] <trappist> I would check dmesg before rebooting though, because it could have valuable info that will be lost when you reboot
[16:12] <genii> (unless currently mounted rw)
[16:12] <trappist> genii: ah I thought he was running the livecd on a different box
[16:13] <genii> trappist: Perhaps, actually. Didn't really specify
[16:14] <ubuntu__> I am running the livecd on a different box, the system is currently up and running currently
[16:14] <ubuntu__> actually I tried the livecd on that one, but I could not mount any partition
[16:15] <trappist> ubuntu__: if you boot the livecd on the server, don't try to mount the partitions - try to fsck them
[16:15] <ubuntu__> partitions are jfs on the server
[16:16] <ubuntu__> don't you have a different fsck for non ext2 file systems? I believe I remember there was a special one for the reiserfs
[16:17] <trappist> fsck auto-detects the filesystem and will spawn fsck.jfs (or you could just run fsck.jfs)
[16:18] <trappist> at least, that's what *should* happen
[16:19] <ubuntu__> I'll do that run
[16:19] <trappist> that's also assuming jfsutils is on the livecd
[16:21] <genii> If not you can install them in package manager, it will work after that
[16:22] <trappist> that's a pretty amazing feature of the livecd that I didn't know about
[16:22] <ubuntu__> are you saying I can install a package while running the livecd?
[16:22] <genii> Yes
[16:23] <genii> So long as the packages you install do not exceed the amount of available space in the ramdisk it's running from
[16:23] <ubuntu__> heat off to those one who designed such a modular system
[16:24] <ubuntu__> hat
[16:25] <ubuntu__> on a different subject
[16:27] <ubuntu__> on this system had xp on one hd and kubuntu on the other and grub let me dualboot. I have installed vista64 over yc but that erased my boot sector and now, if I tell the system manually to start from the linux HD that one does not start. how do I reinstall grub on the boot sector?
[16:27] <genii> !grub
[16:28] <genii> The ubottu knows all ;)
[16:35] <ubuntu__> I am using the guide and I found the stage one at  (hd0,0), I guess I  should then say root root (hd0,0) at the grub prompt? (instead than copying what is in the guyde)
[16:35] <ubuntu__> guide
[16:37] <ubuntu__> ok rebooting, let'shope I did good
[16:38] <kyrksaeterora> hey everybody =]
[16:43] <GaMbi_DK> anyone have any good ideas for getting winds (movies) onto second screen (Separated X screen) - GaMbi
[16:46] <vapashos> anybody who knows how to enable wireless interface?
[16:47] <jtisme> vapashos, what manufacturer
[16:49] <vapashos> the manufacter is
[16:49] <vapashos> 02:05.0 Network controller [0280]: Broadcom Corporation BCM4306 802.11b/g Wireless LAN Controller [14e4:4320] (rev 03)
[16:50] <mrunagi> can anyone help me figure out why firefox starts out in offline mode?
[16:52] <jtisme> vapashos,  go here  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25683
[16:52] <jtisme> vapashos, broadcom's are problematic
[16:52] <vapashos> i know but i had enabled this in the past
[16:53] <vapashos> but i cant remember how
[16:53] <jtisme> vapashos, interesting what release of ubuntu
[16:54] <mrunagi> when is hte next release of kubuntu
[16:54] <ghettoblaster32> end October
[16:56] <ghettoblaster32> <-- still tryin to get warm with KDE 4.1
[16:56] <jtisme> mrunagi, 31 october according to the ibex sched
[16:56] <tdn> How do I change user details on a system user? (The ones that I am asked when running adduser and that is stored in /etc/passwd)
[16:56] <genii> tdn: man usermod
[16:58] <tdn> genii, thanks. It told me chfn.
[16:59] <genii> tdn: That changes your "finger" info
[17:00] <bentob0x> when you disable the nvidia proprietary drivers, you need to restart X only or the entire machine?
[17:01] <genii> Since it uses kernel extensions, the whole box
[17:01] <bentob0x> k
[17:01] <bentob0x> does that plan to be treated like a module?
[17:01] <bentob0x> to avoid a full restart?
[17:04] <raymears> hi everyone, i've just upgraded to intrepid... from hardy kde4-remix and strigi doesn't run. (it didn't run on hardy either). any idea why? i tried executing /usr/bin/strigidaemon and i get a "connection error (dbus-launch failed to autolaunch d-bus session. no protocol specifie)"
[17:09] <tdn> genii, yes. That is what I want.
[17:09] <GaMbi_DK> Hi guys.. I need my TV-out!! with "separated X screen" without xinerama: I cant drag to windows to my TV.. with xinerama: Compiz effects dosn't work... Twinview: dont allow me to change desktop without changing TV desktop (removing the video im watching).. also new files to desktop jumps to TV.....    So Id like a "Separate X screen" that allows me to get windows(movies etc) from my monitor and onto my TV... any ideas?
[17:10] <KillerJinn> any app that works very best for yahoo messenger in linux. it seems yahoo messenger does not work by wine? or is there a substitute to use yahoo. i want all or most features of original yahoo messenger , like webcam and voice chat?
[17:11] <genii> raymears: Intrepid is not yet supported here. Try instead #ubuntu+1
[17:11] <raymears> genii: thanks
[17:11] <sparr> KillerJinn: kopete should have those features
[17:14] <KillerJinn> hm
[17:15] <KillerJinn> pidgin, kopete, empathy
[17:15] <KillerJinn> which one has most features?
[17:15] <genii> kopete should have most of the features which you are wanting from a yahoo client
[17:16] <genii> pidgin has no webcam or voice for instance
[17:16] <KillerJinn> genii i think it doesnt have webcam
[17:18] <KillerJinn> original yahoo messenger wont work with wine?
[17:19] <genii> KillerJinn: Check the wine appdb for that
[17:19] <genii> KillerJinn: http://appdb.winehq.org/
[17:19] <KillerJinn> genii link?
[17:19]  * genii sips
[17:19] <KillerJinn> k
[17:21] <genii> KillerJinn: I see now a *nix version of yahoo messenger is available. http://in.docs.yahoo.com/messenger/download/unix.html
[17:22] <KillerJinn> hm\
[17:27] <GaMbi_DK> I get delay on my typing some times(now).. is this a known problem and what can i do abut it?
[17:28] <KillerJinn> An error occurred while loading http://in.docs.yahoo.com/messenger/download/unix.html:
[17:28] <KillerJinn> Unknown host in.docs.yahoo.com
[17:28] <KillerJinn> genii ^
[17:29] <genii> Interesting
[17:30] <genii> KillerJinn: Perhaps try: http://in.dld.yahoo.com/i/in/messenger/linux/debian_sid/ymessenger_0.99.17-1_i386.deb
[17:30] <simon__> how to get a mix box for the programs?
[17:30] <simon__> how to get a mix box for the programs?
[17:35] <simon__> how to get a mix box for the programs?
[17:35] <simon__> how to get a mix box for the programs?
[17:36] <genii> What should this "mix box" do?
[17:36] <simon__> how to get a mix box for the volum for the programs?
[17:36] <simon__> sry i dosn't thinking when i writing!
[17:37] <genii> You should usually have a speaker icon in bottom right, this is where volume normally is set
[17:37] <simon__> like in vista i want to controll the volum for one epic/program!
[17:39] <genii> simon__: Applications which play your music or videos like Amarok or Kaffeine have their own volume controls too
[17:40] <simon__> Yes but the i are on internett. eks> How to make the max volum 60%?
[17:41] <genii> simon__: Click on speaker icon and adjust volume there
[17:42] <simon__> yes, but if i want a difference for 2 programs?  Multi!
[17:44] <genii> simon__: Currently no such feature as this exists yet
[17:45] <simon__> ok, but how can i get Linux to make it?
[17:45] <KillerJinn> An error occurred while loading http://in.docs.yahoo.com/messenger/download/unix.html:
[17:45] <KillerJinn> Unknown host in.docs.yahoo.com
[17:45] <KillerJinn> genii ^
[17:46] <KillerJinn> genii sory.  retype
[17:46] <genii> KillerJinn: Perhaps try the URL for the direct download I gave earlier, which is: http://in.dld.yahoo.com/i/in/messenger/linux/debian_sid/ymessenger_0.99.17-1_i386.deb
[17:47] <genii> KillerJinn: Incidentally that url you are getting "unknown host" for works fine here
[17:51] <KillerJinn> genii hmm. cant get it.
[17:51] <genii> KillerJinn: Looks like you may have some DNS issue
[17:51] <KillerJinn> hm
[17:51] <KillerJinn> how to dl in command line>
[17:51] <KillerJinn> ?
[17:52] <genii> using the commandline STILL won't work if your dns entries are not good
[17:54] <KillerJinn> hm
[18:06] <Tm_T> !away | Nasj
[18:07] <genii> Tm_T: Hiya
[18:07] <Tm_T> hi hi genii
[18:22] <GaMbi_DK> Is there a way to check version before downloading/installing? (command used apt-get install EnvyNG-gtk)
[18:23] <genii> apt-cache policy <packagename>
[18:23] <mrunagi> anyone know why firefox starts in offline mode?
[18:23] <genii> But that will just tell you the packagenames version, not in this case the version of drivers it wants to install
[18:24] <GaMbi_DK> thx mrunagi
[18:24] <DarthFrog> mrunagi: In Firefox, bring upt the URL "about:config" and in the Filter, search for "online".  I'm not positive, but I think that's it.
[18:25] <mrunagi> i looked at all those on the forums and theyre set to what they said it needed to be i thought maybe there was some rain dance i have to do before it works lol
[18:25] <manish> i have successfullt installed zimbra in kubuntu but unfortunately deleted the desktop shortcut. now am unable to launch it. how do i start zimbra now
[18:27] <PhilRod> is it in the k menu?
[18:27] <genii> manish: Do you still have a link for it in Kmenu...Internet   ?
[18:27] <DarthFrog> !zimbra
[18:28] <genii> If so rightclick and Add To Desktop
[18:30] <manish> ya but it is for the installer
[18:30] <chfwiggum> gd evening all
[18:31] <manish> ginii: it asks me again for the language selection option so i did not go ahead
[18:32] <sigma_> how do you print multiple slides on a page in oo impress?
[18:32] <genii> manish: Try  alt-f2  then:  zimbra
[18:33] <manish> alt-F2 does not give me anything so i tries to run the app from run command
[18:33] <manish> but it said "Could not find the specified command
[18:34] <manish> genii: so what else can i try
[18:35] <genii> manish: It may be tried zdesktop    instead of zimbra
[18:36] <manish> Genii: still the same reply "could not find the specified command"
[18:36] <DarthFrog> manish: You could bring up Synaptic, search for zimbra, and look for installed files in Properties.  That should tell you what the executable is called.
[18:37] <genii> DarthFrog: Good tip
[18:37] <blackflag> !directory server
[18:37] <DarthFrog> genii: I've had to do it myself before. :-)
[18:37] <blackflag> !ebox
[18:38] <manish> so how do i know what is the installer called
[18:39] <genii> The package name should be zdesktop
[18:39] <DarthFrog> manish: You might also get useful info in /usr/share/doc/zimbra.  The directory might not be called zimbra, but it will have that word in its name.
[18:39] <manish> ok in synaptic there isone entry by the name zimbra and it is installed and it is called zdesktop
[18:40] <DarthFrog> manish: Where is it located?  In /usr/bin?
[18:40] <DarthFrog> If you're in Synaptic via sudo, you could always force a re-install.
[18:41] <manish> how do i find that
[18:41] <deftone> is there a way to change the menu button in my panel?
[18:42] <Kopfgeldjaeger> hi
[18:43] <Kopfgeldjaeger> how can i set the background picture in kmediafactory? i just stays black for me...
[18:44] <manish> what is situated in usr/bin
[18:45] <manish> i see zimbra direcotry at two places
[18:45] <DarthFrog> manish: Executable files are mostly in /usr/bin.
[18:45] <manish> no its not in usr/bin
[18:46] <manish> there is one zimbra direcotry with many sub direcotries in /home
[18:46] <DarthFrog> manish: Those will be your data files.
[18:50] <JackWinter> i'm running an opengl game under wine.  when i come back to the kde desktop all non maximized windows have become small strips in the upper left corner with the title bar off screen.  kubuntu 8.04 no compiz.  any ideas ?
[18:50] <manish> so now what do i do to launch it
[18:51] <manish> DarthFrog: what do i do now
[18:51] <DarthFrog> manish: Personally, I'd re-install it.
[18:51] <_mary_kate_> where did the KDE 1 kwin style go in 8.04?
[18:52] <manish> again i would have to download all the mail and the settings i did for the whole day
[18:52] <manish> as the connection os very slow here
[18:52] <manish> like 5 kbps or something @ that
[18:54] <genii> manish: Did you look yet in your trash for the desktop shortcut?
[18:54] <DarthFrog> there's a good thought.
[18:56] <manish> ya there is nothing
[18:56] <manish> i tried that the first think
[18:56] <manish> thing
[18:56] <manish> but i dont know what went wrong
[18:57] <manish> there was an icon im my awn-navigator also
[18:57] <manish> its also gogne
[18:57] <manish> gone
[19:02] <|_VoiD_|> hello
[19:02] <LDSHDW> hey
[19:03] <LDSHDW> tartteeen apuva :S
[19:03] <|_VoiD_|> i have kubuntu 8.10 .... i would like to change the file associations back tu default... how do i do that?
[19:03] <genii> |_VoiD_|: Ask in #ubuntu+1 please
[19:03] <LDSHDW> umm
[19:03] <LDSHDW> i need help with my monitors
[19:03] <LDSHDW> I did install kubuntu yesterday
[19:04] <LDSHDW> 8.40
[19:04] <LDSHDW> and  I have 3 monitors and 2 video cards
[19:04] <manish> genii: u still there
[19:04] <LDSHDW> and I cant apply them that it would work
[19:04] <LDSHDW> can anyone help me ?
[19:04] <manish> any suggestion for me to regain it
[19:04] <genii> manish: Reinstall it
[19:04] <manish> i dont want to install it again
[19:04] <manish> please
[19:05] <deftone> my wireless won't automatically start on reboot.
[19:06] <|_VoiD_|> manish: whats your problem?
[19:06] <DarthFrog> manish: When you come back later today or tomorrow looking for help with your zimbra problem, please be sure to mention that you were advised to re-install the programme and that you refused to do so.
[19:07] <ek> I have a strange issue I haven't seen before and I can't seem to dig anything up online about it (Not sure what key words to use maybe?)
[19:07] <DarthFrog> So you can not waste anyone else's time with it, trying the things you've already tried.
[19:07] <manish> i dont refuse sir
[19:07] <manish> i just dont want to waste my whole days work
[19:07] <ek> But, when my Kubuntu 8.04.1 AMD64 (fresh install) comes back from screensaver/energy saver, the resolution and FPS is b0rk3d.
[19:07] <manish> thats the only request i am making to you experts
[19:08] <ek> Anyone know if this is common, if there's a fix, or where I can read about this?
[19:08] <DarthFrog> Well, both genii and I have tried to help  you.  But our suggestions haven't worked.  It sounds to me like you've royally screwed up your installation of that programme.
[19:09] <manish> ok then if that is what you suggest as the last option i will do so
[19:09] <manish> thanks very much for you patience and help
[19:09] <DarthFrog> manish: Good luck.
[19:09] <ek> manish: They aren't asking you to re-install Kubuntu. But to simply re-install whatever program is causing your problems.
[19:09] <manish> sorry to trouble u so much
[19:10] <deftone> wireless won't start after reboot
[19:10] <DarthFrog> deftone: Run knetworkmanager.
[19:10] <ek> deftone: The drivers aren't coming up/not available? Or it won't automatically connect to an access point?
[19:10] <manish> ya actually why i was so bothered was that i spent my whole day downloading my mails at 5 kbps speed now again i will have to do it
[19:10] <manish> that was the only reason : i dint mean to hurt someone
[19:11] <DarthFrog> manish: Probably not.  You need to re-install zimbra, not get your mail again.  All your mail will still be in /home/$USER/zimbra (or whereever it is now).  you will only have to reconfigure the programme.
[19:12] <manish> is that so  :)
[19:12] <manish> thanks very much for this information
[19:12] <DarthFrog> manish: And to make sure, make a copy of the zimbra data directory first!
[19:12] <deftone> wlano won't start unless i use sudo modprobe ndiswrapper
[19:12] <manish> i will just reinstall it and let you know about  the result
[19:12] <DarthFrog> That way, if it does delete your mail (which it shouldn't) then you can simply copy it back.
[19:13] <deftone> also Knetwork Manager won't start for me at all....think it's a bug or something
[19:13] <Slaughta> HEY
[19:17] <|_VoiD_|> deftone: try install "wicd" its better than knetworkmanager
[19:17] <deftone> how do i download it or is it installed by default?
[19:18] <DarthFrog> deftone: Edit the file /etc/modules and put "ndiswrapper" in there.  You'll need to do it with sudo privileges.  Then it will be loaded on boot.
[19:18] <heiner_> Does anyone knows why VMware workstation does not start?
[19:18] <manish> DarthFrog: so do i need to just replace the new directories with the old backups??
[19:18] <heiner_> any known issues?
[19:18] <DarthFrog> manish: Try it and see.
[19:19] <DarthFrog> heiner_: Have you run vmware-config.pl?
[19:19] <manish> yup i will be right back
[19:19] <deftone> Darth....how do i do that? lol
[19:19] <heiner_> DarthFrog: vmware-config.pl? Hm....not yet :) I'll try
[19:19] <|_VoiD_|> deftone: http://wicd.sourceforge.net/download.php
[19:20] <|_VoiD_|> the part installing in ubuntu
[19:20] <heiner_> DarthFrog: No, there is no vmware-config.pl
[19:21] <DarthFrog> deftone: "kdesu kate /etc/modules"
[19:21] <DarthFrog> heiner_: Which version of VMWare did you install?
[19:22] <heiner_> Workstation 6.5.0
[19:23] <DarthFrog> heiner_: Ah.  that's the version I have installed.  I *really* like it, Unity mode is great.  I'm running it in Intrepid and, as I recall, the configuration was graphical.
[19:23] <deftone> what's kdesu kate ?
[19:24] <DarthFrog> deftone: Press Alt-F2 and type that command (or cut 'n paste) in the entry field.
[19:25] <heiner_> DarthFrog: I had worked with it on Ubuntu until last month! And i think that the download was still for free.... . No i've installed it on Kubuntu 8.10 and it's not free any more :(.
[19:25] <ek> Anyone running Kubuntu 8.04.1 AMD64 on an HP/Compaq with an nVidia card by chance?
[19:25] <heiner_> And the trial won't run too!
[19:25] <senfman> re
[19:25] <_mary_kate_> heiner_: vmware server is the free one
[19:26] <deftone> ah o.k
[19:26] <heiner_> mary_kate: Am i allowed to install every VM?
[19:26] <gambi> anyone who can tell me why my graphic is acting up when I move my windows? (only think it is when moving vertical)
[19:27] <mjbt38> driver
[19:27] <DarthFrog> heiner_: It sounds like VMWare is looking for a license and not finding it.
[19:27] <_mary_kate_> heiner_: i'm not sure what you mean
[19:27] <Slaughta> 8=3
[19:27] <senfman> My KOrganizer still crashes since the last update, when I want to add a new appointment. how can i fix this?
[19:28] <DarthFrog> senfman: Have you restarted KOrganizer since then?
[19:28] <senfman> This crah does not occur (at least not that often), if I delete myself as the default participant in the appointment
[19:28] <senfman> DarthFrog: yes, I restarted the whole pc several times.
[19:28] <DarthFrog> senfman: Sounds like a bug.
[19:29] <senfman> DarthFrog: who cares. I just had the show effect. It didn't occur right now. maybe it helps, restarting several times. *g*
[19:30] <Catullo> salve gente
[19:30] <senfman> darthFrog: which is actually a pity, because I can't reproduce it.
[19:31] <heiner_> mary_kate: VMware Workstation: Run and make any virtual machines you want!
[19:31] <heiner_> mary_kate: WMware Server too?
[19:31] <DarthFrog> senfman: Sorry, I'm out of ideas.
[19:31] <_mary_kate_> heiner_: yes, i think so.  it's a full version, you can do whatever you like with it
[19:31] <genii> !it| Catullo
[19:31] <senfman> DarthFrog: No problem. So am I. I hope it to happen again, maybe i'll be able to reproduce it an write a bugfix.
[19:32] <heiner_> Thank you mary_kate. I'll try it out now.. . Thank you :)
[19:32] <_mary_kate_> heiner_: you might also look at VirtualBox.  it's nicer than VMware Server for desktop use, and it's free
[19:32] <_mary_kate_> heiner_: http://www.virtualbox.org/
[19:32] <Catullo> OK
[19:33] <heiner_> Thank you for the link mary_kate! Never tried it out, but often heard about it! Great! I'll try THIS out :D
[19:34] <deftone> that didnn't work Darth
[19:34] <heiner_> mary_kate: IT#s just 30 MB's? VMware got 101...
[19:35] <keyzek> i use editi "vi" how i can delete text in this editor ??
[19:35] <ek> keyzek: The 'x' key will delete single characters.
[19:36] <keyzek> oki thx i check this key :)
[19:36] <ek> This screensaver stuff is frustrating... I can't for the life of me figure out why its choking!
[19:37] <keyzek> key 'x' it's not working :(
[19:37] <DarthFrog> ek: So turn it off.
[19:37] <keyzek> anything else ?
[19:37] <DarthFrog> keyzek: Press Esc first.
[19:37] <ek> DarthFrog: And just leave my screen on 24/7? Not a very good workaround...
[19:38] <keyzek> yes
[19:38] <DarthFrog> keyzek: And if you have ask that kind of question, vi is not for you. :-)  It's a very powerful and truly excellent editor but it is not particularly easy to start with.
[19:39] <DarthFrog> ek: Why not?  Modern CRTs and LCDs don't need screensavers.  Just turn your monitor off at night.
[19:39] <ek> DarthFrog: There is no way to turn it off. Its a laptop.
[19:40] <ek> If I log out and log back in (To X) everything is fine. But returning from screensaver/power saver, the X windows is shrunk, smashed into the corner, flickering and EXTREMELY slow.
[19:41] <ek> Almost as if the video card drivers are b0rk3d.
[19:41] <ek> I'm using the same drivers on another laptop (x86) and that's fine though. So, I'm wondering if this is AMD64 related.
[19:41] <keyzek> thx thsi key working  ;)
[19:41] <ek> Although, my 64 desktops seem to be fine also.
[19:42] <ek> Just this single laptop that's having issues.
[19:42] <ek> Could be BIOS related too I suppose. I should probably dig around in there.
[19:42] <keyzek> and i have one problem
[19:43] <DarthFrog> keyzek: Why are you using vi?
[19:43] <DarthFrog> !vi
[19:43] <keyzek> i write something and i want close this program but i don't want save anything how i can exit for this program
[19:44] <DarthFrog> keyzek: Esc, !q
[19:44] <keyzek> in my school i must working in this program
[19:44] <manish> genii: DarthFrog: yeppie  I got it right.
[19:44] <DarthFrog> keyzek: Then install the vim-full package and go through the help system, would be my advice.
[19:45] <DarthFrog> Once you learn vi, you might never want to use any other editor again. :-)
[19:45] <manish> during reinstallation it said it detected a system already so it would be uninstalled but the user contents would not be touched
[19:45] <manish> and all my mails are intact there
[19:45] <keyzek> but i cant install this i working in server
[19:45] <DarthFrog> manish: So you're a happy camper?
[19:45] <deftone> Darth: I'm not sure how to add what you spoke of to etc/ndiswrapper
[19:46] <manish> as far as icon is concerned it is situated in linux directory in the zimbra directory (in case some one has the same trouble again)
[19:46] <manish> thanks for your time and patience
[19:46] <genii> keyzek:   :wq
[19:46] <manish> have a good night
[19:46] <DarthFrog> deftone: Just edit the file with root privileges.  Add "ndiswrapper" on a line by itself.
[19:46] <keyzek> DarthFrog !q is not working
[19:47] <DarthFrog> genii: No "w", he didn't want to save his changes.
[19:47] <genii> keyzek:   :q!
[19:47] <DarthFrog> Oh right, I forgot the : :-)
[19:47] <keyzek> oki thx is working
[19:47] <deftone> edit what file?
[19:47] <DarthFrog> deftone: Go back and read what I originally told you.
[19:48] <DarthFrog> deftone: and the file is /etc/modules.
[19:49] <DarthFrog> deftone: "kdesu kate /etc/modules"
[19:49] <DarthFrog> deftone: Press Alt-F2 and type that command (or cut 'n paste) in the entry field.
[19:51] <deftone> that does nothing for me....the little window just goes away
[19:51] <DarthFrog> then do it at the command line and use "sudo" instead of kdesu.  If you're running Intrepid beta, it's kdesudo, not kdesu.
[19:52] <Elmnas> sorry the net
[19:52] <deftone> sweeet!
[19:53] <deftone> thank sooo much Darth
[19:53] <DarthFrog> np
[19:53] <deftone> i'm learning
[19:53] <deftone> it's the little things that get me
[19:54] <DarthFrog> Be sure to pass along what you learn to others.
[19:54] <deftone> oh i do
[19:54] <DarthFrog> That's the way to pay back the people who help you.
[19:54] <LDSHDW> ook
[19:54] <LDSHDW> I need help with my monitors
[19:54] <Elmnas> can someone help me to install gefoce 8800 please
[19:54] <LDSHDW> Can anyone help me out ??
[19:57] <DarthFrog> Elmnas: Run "jockey-kde" and enable the Nvidia drivers.
[19:57] <LDSHDW> I have 2 monitors and none of them really works with my 8.40 kubuntu
[19:58] <Elmnas> ok
[19:59] <Elmnas> they are enabled
[19:59] <Elmnas> but I have wrong resolution
[19:59] <Elmnas> :(
[20:00] <Elmnas> I cant get higher darth frog why?
[20:01] <DarthFrog> Elmnas: No idea. Do you have kranr installed?  Play around with that and see what you can do.
[20:01] <DarthFrog> !krandr
[20:01] <Elmnas> kranr?
[20:01] <DarthFrog> Elmnas: krandr, sorry, not kranr.
[20:02] <BigBear> is xfs stable
[20:02] <Elmnas> whats that?
[20:02] <DarthFrog> !Randr
[20:02] <genii> I think krandr was removed
[20:02] <DarthFrog> genii: It's in Intrepid.
[20:03] <Elmnas> darthFrog how do I disconect my tv monitor
[20:03] <DarthFrog> Pull the plug.
[20:04] <Elmnas> I did
[20:04] <Elmnas> but I still have wrong resolution
[20:04] <Elmnas> I have just 1400 x 1050 I Have anyway always 1680 x1050
[20:07] <comedit> after my updates have been done today my smb4k won't start up anymore
[20:08] <Elmnas> Darthfrog how do I fix this problem i have to low resolution
[20:08] <comedit> strange thing is that a similar kubuntu runs without any problem smb4k
[20:08] <DarthFrog> Elmnas: Please don't keep asking the same question.  I told you to use krandr.
[20:08] <Elmnas> whats that?
[20:08] <Elmnas> no answear :S
[20:09] <comedit> i have completely reinstalled it but that does not help
[20:09] <DarthFrog> Time to exercise your google-fu! :-)
[20:09] <deftone> How can i change the start menu button?
[20:09] <deftone> at first it had the kde menu button then later i noticed it just looks like and arrow now
[20:09] <DarthFrog> deftone: Did you try right-clicking on the icon and changing its properties?
[20:10] <deftone> wow...is it that simple?   lmfao...sorry i feel retarded now
[20:10] <comedit> anybody a clue how find a solution to this smb4k issue
[20:11] <deftone> k it doesn't have properties listed there...only the home folder does
[20:12] <cuznt> wait you want to change how the button looks deftone?
[20:12] <deftone> ya i do
[20:12] <deftone> looks kinda gay right now
[20:13] <cuznt> for shame
[20:13]  * cuznt says kde is not ghey at all
[20:13] <cuznt> so there :p
[20:14] <comedit> !smb4k
[20:14] <GaMbi_DK> compiz-0.7.8.tar.gz how do I install this file I just downloaded?
[20:14] <cuznt> and i aint go no idea no how how to do it...
[20:14] <deftone> i like kde just not the button at the moment..don't know how it changed. would've stuck with the kde button but at some point it changed to   something like this   |<--
[20:14] <genii> GaMbi_DK: Why aren't you just installing from the package manager?
[20:15] <cuznt> ah
[20:15] <GaMbi_DK> genii due to old version
[20:15] <cuznt> has it moved to the left because your task bar is full?
[20:16] <genii> GaMbi_DK: Applications installed outside of the package manager cannot be supported
[20:18] <saint_> Anyone else having a Frostwire problem? Like it not starting?
[20:18] <DarthFrog> GaMbi_DK: What old version?
[20:18] <cuznt> !Frostwire
[20:20] <GaMbi_DK> DarthFrog, compiz .7.6.. I want .7.8 :)
[20:20] <dxdt> Hello, when I try to add new widgets to my desktop in KDE4, I find a surprising
[20:21] <dxdt> whoops pressed enter too soon.  Basically I want more widgets, but I can't seem to get more than one option for extra widgets to install. Is this the case with most people or am I missing out on something?
[20:22] <dxdt> The only place that I can search for new widgets is listed KDE-look.org
[20:22] <DarthFrog> GaMbi_DK: That version of compiz is in Intrepid.
[20:31] <deftone> crap....i accidentally removed the start menu button...any way to get it back?
[20:32] <saint_> deftone: "Add Applet to panel"
[20:34] <deftone> how do i do that?
[20:34] <DarthFrog> If you're running KDE4.1.2, try installing plasmoid-lancelot.  I much prefer it to the new KDE Menu applet.
[20:35] <DarthFrog> !lancelot
[20:38] <deftone> i installed it Darth but that didn't bring back my menu button..lol
[20:47] <deftone> does anyone know how to get the menu button back...i accidentally removed it
[20:48] <DarthFrog> deftone: Which version of KDE are you using?
[20:50] <FuriousGeorge> hey all
[20:50] <deftone> the newest
[20:51] <deftone> kubuntu 8.10 beta
[20:52] <deftone> i've looked everywhere and i can't seem to find that setting anywhere! lol
[20:52] <DarthFrog> Click  on the ying-yang icon on the right hand side of the panel..  Select "Add Widgets".
[20:53] <FuriousGeorge> i just did this:  dd if=/dev/sda | gzip -9 | ssh re.motecomputer.com "gzip -d -| dd of=/dev/sda" and it worked. (after a reboot on liveusb drive) i was able to assemble, rebuild, and mount my raid1 arrays, and see my lvm volumes on one of em
[20:53] <deftone> i did that and it throws it to the right hand side instead of the left hand side
[20:53] <renato__> hi,  I launched chkrootkit and I found a line that says: eth0: PACKET SNIFFER(/usr/sbin/dhcpd3[5560]) does it mean I have a rootkit installed? (I am investigating a possible break in)
[20:54] <FuriousGeorge> so what else should i be doing?  both computers are identical
[20:54] <DarthFrog> deftone: So move it.
[20:54] <FuriousGeorge> i should delete the udev rule that has the MAC for the other computer's NIC (i guess they're not so identical), right?
[20:54] <deftone> o.k here we go...last time i moved it i screwed the who look up..lol
[20:55] <deftone> yes !
[20:55] <deftone> ha thanks Darth
[20:56] <gambi> back from reboot.. WHY do I get those typing delays? this time the only thing I had running was a inactive terminal and Xchat... when I get this delay: Takes ½-1½ sec for characters to appear after typing.. cant type anything before the character is shown.. any ideas? (this is a clean installation of ubuntu 7.04 - but it also did it before I reinstalled from Kubuntu)
[20:56] <DarthFrog> FuriousGeorge: Well, at least put the correct MAC address in.
[20:57] <maurice__> hi
[20:57] <infodev> heyyyyyyyyyy
[20:57] <genii> renato__: Does it say above that somewhere "INFECTED (PORTS: xxxx xxxx)"                  or such?
[20:57] <infodev> maurice_, form wher are you ,
[20:57] <deftone> k how do i enable the lancelot thing you recommended?
[20:58] <renato__> genii, no that is all it said, I googled a bit and some seem to believe it is normal for a dhcp deaom to do that
[21:00] <DarthFrog> deftone: Same way.
[21:01] <genii> renato__: Then no worries.
[21:01] <renato__> tx genii
[21:02] <deftone> wow now we're talking!
[21:02] <deftone> Darth: that menu is great!
[21:03] <DarthFrog> renato__: If this is a server, make all files in /bin, /usr/bin, /sbin & /usr/bin immutable.  chattr +i <filename>.  Mount /tmp on its own partition and mount it nosuid, noexec, nouser and nodev.
[21:04] <DarthFrog> renato__: I also have the binary directories on my servers on their own partitions and mounted read-only.  Suspenders and a belt, don't you know? :-)
[21:05] <deftone> DarthFrog: one last question and I have to go take a shower. what's the best widget to monitor cpu, ram usage?
[21:05] <DarthFrog> renato__: That way a rootkit can;t be installed.
[21:05] <DarthFrog> deftone: No opinion, don't use one.
[21:08] <DarthFrog> You might like hot-babe, though. :-)
[21:09] <Zerothis> is there a vnc type server-client combination that lets the client switching between desktop users?
[21:17] <tphilosopher> Hey guys. I was wondering if you could help me with a problem my girlfriend is having on her Kubuntu 8.04 machine. Both KMess and Kopete are having problems displaying the correct status of herself to other people. It appears to be happening to a select few - me and two others.
[21:17] <tphilosopher> A quotation from her email:
[21:17] <tphilosopher> "On both Kmess and Kopete, i appear offline to you. And on both Kmess and Kopete, Klaire and Chester appear offline to me, despite the fact that i'm not. Do you know why this is, or what i can do to fix it? Please write back asap, 'cause this sucks!"
[21:21] <paolo> hi, is there a channel related to audio ?
[21:23] <tphilosopher> Does anyone know where the KMess and Kopete configuration files are, so she can delete them and see if that fixes the problem?
[21:24] <DarthFrog> tphilosopher: ~/.kde/share/apps
[21:25] <tphilosopher> DarthFrog: Thanks.
[21:25] <DarthFrog> the files will be rc files. (ie. kopeterc).
[21:25] <DarthFrog> tphilosopher: Check ~/.kde/share/config, too.
[21:36] <Cugel> Hello people. I have a question about Superkaramba. Anyone using it?
[21:40] <emma> Hi there, I'm running Kubuntu Intrepid, yesterday I could watch youtube videos with konqueror. Today when I go to youtube, the video never starts. Any ideas?
[21:45] <indrora> Ok, I'm passed miffed.
[21:46] <indrora> I'm running Kubuntu-latest (fresh install via Wubi) and running into the problem of there's NO sound. I'm running an Alienware M9750 with the Realtek audio.
[21:47] <itsatrick> Is it just me, or does kate have fading colors in the file list (i.e. older files are "whiter")?
[21:48] <Mr-S_> indrora: what have you tried so far ?
[21:50] <indrora> Mr-S_: I have so far tried running normal ubuntu (runs OK, only headphones) b) tried setting the mixer in KDE to Alsa (reboot loop) c) adding option snd-intel model=arima and have so far gotten no love
[21:50] <Mr-S_> indrora: open Kmixer ( start -> Multimedia -> Kmixer) and put all slides to full. Make sure the green light above the sliders are illuminated. check the sound again.
[21:51] <indrora> Bah!
[21:51]  * indrora has to mute the mic in
[21:51] <Mr-S_> most likely one of the slider ( turned on ) will give you soudn through the speakers
[21:52] <DarkSmoke> what IDE is there on linux for c++?
[21:52] <Mr-S_> i my case i had to activate 3D ( sourround ) for my laptop speakers
[21:52] <indrora> Mr-S_: Nope.
[21:52] <indrora> no luck
[21:52] <indrora> all up (except for my front mic)
[21:52] <DarthFrog> !kdevelop
[21:52] <DarthFrog> DarkSmoke: Kdevelop.
[21:53] <Mr-S_> OK but you do have sound by the headset, or not ?
[21:53] <indrora> neither
[21:53] <indrora> under Kubuntu i have no sound whatsoever
[21:53] <DarkSmoke> thankz DarthFrog :D
[21:53] <Mr-S_> Lets have some fun. Start a konsole and type alsaconifg
[21:53] <psycose> hi, i would like to add a PPA repository to get firefox-3.1 but i don't want my system to upgrade other package that are provided by this PPA, how could i handle this ? thanks
[21:53] <Mr-S_> sudo alsaconfifg or alsaconf
[21:54] <indrora> neither found.
[21:55] <Mr-S_> OK one moment to check on something
[21:55] <psyco> hey guys, I have ALSA (I think) and my 4.1 speakers arent working properly. The 2 satelites dont have any sound. ANyone know what I ahve to do?
[21:56] <DarthFrog> psyco: Play around with the mixer settings.
[21:59] <Mr-S_> OK back... try in konsole sudo alsaconf and enter yor password. If alsaconf found yor card, some channel (slider) has been muted, or is at min level
[22:00] <EvilDaemon> Hello all.
[22:00] <EvilDaemon> How, from the command line, do you access the restricted drivers?
[22:00] <EvilDaemon> gksu <what>?
[22:00] <indrora> Mr-S_: Bash: alsaconf: not found
[22:01] <psyco> DarthFrog: I did but there was nothing that changed.
[22:01] <indrora> maxbaldwin: apt-cache search (driver)
[22:02] <maxbaldwin> indrora: there isn't a way to access the graphival version via command line? the restricted drivers program?
[22:02] <maxbaldwin> I'm not sure what the driver is.
[22:03] <indrora> maxbaldwin: What hardware do you need drivers for?
[22:03] <maxbaldwin> Nevermind indrora: it's in the system men.
[22:03] <maxbaldwin> Like, an ATI graphical card or something.
[22:04] <maxbaldwin> thanks
[22:25] <benjamin> is kde3 still being developed, or has everyone moved over to kde4?
[22:27] <jussi01> benjamin: the latter...
[22:28] <saint_> KDE4 feels too buggy to me.
[22:28] <saint_> Like, not very smooth.
[22:31] <YnoR> sera a tutti
[22:31] <Terrabit> hello.
[22:34] <emmanuel_> hi
[22:34] <emmanuel_> i got a problem
[22:34] <Terrabit> go on.
[22:34] <emmanuel_> with te login
[22:34] <emmanuel_> i ve installed de kde4 packages
[22:35] <emmanuel_> and then de login windows changed
[22:35] <emmanuel_> so now i ve unistalled the kde packs
[22:36] <senorpedro> hi folsk
[22:36] <senorpedro> folks
[22:36] <emmanuel_> but i cant change the login window
[22:36] <senorpedro> i have a ubuntu host and a windows guest, and i want to mount a shared folder in the windows guest
[22:37] <emmanuel_> pedro, podes hacerlo con vmware
[22:37] <emmanuel_> con q aplicacion de maquina virtual lo hiciste?
[22:37] <senorpedro> System error 67 has occurred.The network name cannot be found.
[22:38] <Terrabit> damn i have had the same issue but just reverted to kde3
[22:38] <senorpedro> oh man i hate this irc client.....
[22:38] <senorpedro> however, this is the error message that i get when i try to mount a shared folder in the guest
[22:39] <benjamin> can they ping eachother?
[22:40] <senorpedro> nope
[22:40] <senorpedro> ping request could not find host vboxsvr
[22:41] <benjamin> so i think your first step would be to get that working... i'm not really an expert at troubleshooting networking issues
[22:42] <trappist> in the tar man page, it says I can exclude files matching a pattern by saying --exclude=PATTERN - anybody know where I can find docs about how to make a pattern?
[22:42] <senorpedro> according to the manual it should work
[22:42] <senorpedro> ......
[22:42] <senorpedro> damned
[22:42] <senorpedro> i hate it when something doesnt work out of the box
[22:43] <thefuzz4> any dmraid experts in here?
[22:43] <ek> Well, its definitely an nVidia driver issue (The strange screensaver/power saver/sleep issues). Anyone else having issues with nVidia drivers on AMD64?
[22:43] <DarthFrog> !regex | trappist
[22:43] <l3r1k> [| matches "trappist"]
[22:43] <DarthFrog> trappist: What you want are called regular expressions.  They are extremely powerfull pattern matchers.
[22:44] <ek> Unless the issue is just with the latest drivers... DarthFrog, you wouldn't happen to know when the latest nVidia drivers were released would you?
[22:44] <trappist> DarthFrog: I know regexes, but I don't think that's what's supported by tar - or do you know of documentation that says it is?
[22:45] <starenka> hi, is there a way how to run script after certain usb device is conncted? (wanna turn off touchpad, when mouse is connected). thx
[22:45] <DarthFrog> trappist: I just checked the tar manpage and it doesn't mention regexes.  But I'd be surprised if a regex didn't work.
[22:46] <trappist> DarthFrog: found something on the internet that suggests it wants shell glob expressions, not regular expressions
[22:46] <trappist> gonna try it...
[22:46] <DarthFrog> ek: I'm running Intrepid AMD64 with an Nvidia card.  I used jockey-kde to get it running.
[22:47] <DarthFrog> Yeah, globbing should work fine.
[22:47] <ek> DarthFrog: Hrm. That's what I used as well.
[22:47] <ek> Although, not on Intrepid.
[22:49] <ek> Yup. Everything is running smoothly using the "vesa" driver.
[22:49] <ek> Hrm.
[22:50] <ek> Isn't there a way to get a previous version of the drivers through apt?
[22:50] <ek> Or do I need to manually download and install them?
[22:50] <trappist> yeah it's shell globs
[22:51] <thefuzz4> what vid card are you using?  I was having some issues with Intrepid and my ATI card.  Snowhog on the forums recommended Envy and that worked like magic for me
[22:51] <DarthFrog> !envy
[22:51] <ek> thefuzz4: nVidia Go 6000 or something (Laptop)
[22:52] <thefuzz4> ek: have you tried using Envy yet?
[22:52] <ek> thefuzz4: Nope. Not yet.
[22:52] <thefuzz4> http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3086232.msg86621#msg86621
[22:52] <ek> thefuzz4: I'm not extremely familiar with Linux and such. Anything I can read?
[22:53] <ek> Beautiful. Thanks.
[22:53] <thefuzz4> that post right there should help ya
[22:54] <DarthFrog> ek: Back up anything you care about first, in case they screw up and you have to re-install.
[22:55] <thefuzz4> so does anyone know anything about dmraid and Intrepid?
[22:56] <ek> DarthFrog: Yeah. Fresh install. Nothing to lose (yet).
[22:56] <ek> Thanks guys for the info.
[22:58] <deftone> DarthFrog: How do I reset my desktop to the default when I first installed Kubuntu?
[23:16] <girao> nobody here
[23:16] <genii> Not true
[23:16] <maxbaldwin> no
[23:16] <maxbaldwin> no one
[23:17] <girao> because
[23:36] <deftone> How do I reset my desktop to the default when I first installed Kubuntu?
[23:37] <genii> remove all files in ~/.kde/share/config
[23:37] <deftone> ty
[23:37] <deftone> does it matter if i'm in kde already?
[23:39] <genii> deftone: Next time you login it will have been set to defaults
[23:39] <xweb> deftone: I don't think so buy if you can't delete the folder just log out switch to a console and remove the folder.
[23:40] <xweb> genii: sorry didn't meant to step on your toes.
[23:40] <genii> Don't delete the folder itself, just it's contents
[23:40] <cuznt> trying to apt clean but got E: Could not open lock file /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[23:40] <genii> xweb: No worries :)
[23:41] <tickleme_eddie> hello
[23:41] <xweb> the folder will be regenerated. I just did it with kde-4
[23:41] <genii> cuznt: That usually means either :  another thing using package manager is running     or: you didn't use sudo
[23:41] <genii> xweb: Good to know then
[23:42] <cuznt> heh
[23:42] <cuznt> tnx
[23:42] <xweb> tickleme_eddie: hello
[23:42] <tickleme_eddie> hey xweb
[23:42] <tickleme_eddie> do u know how i can install Konversation on Windows XP
[23:43] <genii> Why the hell would you want to?
[23:43] <tickleme_eddie> hahah
[23:43] <cuznt> just download it to windows
[23:43] <tickleme_eddie> my sister
[23:43] <cuznt> i had it on mine
[23:43] <tickleme_eddie> she has windows
[23:43] <cuznt> but then did the whole kde thing
[23:43] <tickleme_eddie> and it is the only way i can talk to her
[23:44] <xweb> tickleme_eddie: are you trying to talk to her via irc?
[23:45] <genii> I wonder when Konversation 1.1 is gonna make it to repos
[23:45] <tickleme_eddie> i install mirc
[23:45] <tickleme_eddie> but i cant seem to find her on this thing
[23:45] <genii> Perhaps consider Chatzilla or so
[23:45] <xweb> make sure she is connecting to the same server as you.
[23:46] <xweb> (i.e. brown.freenode.net
[23:46] <xweb> )
[23:46] <tickleme_eddie> cool tks
[23:49] <zer0o> du guys no if there's something for linux like photostudio?
[23:50] <genii> zer0o: The Gimp    generally is used
[23:50] <xweb> genii: i wonder when Konversation will come out for kde4
[23:50] <genii> xweb: Me too. Since I'm gonna have to switch to it sooner or later
[23:51] <zer0o> genii, ive got it but i'm looking for something like a photo editor. for win there's photostudio it's perfect
[23:51] <xweb> 4.1.2 is relatively stable and will install along side of you current kde install with no problems.
[23:51] <zer0o> du think, being a prog for win it'll work with wine?
[23:51] <genii> zer0o: Gimp is a perfectly fine photo editor
[23:51] <el-gokulo> krita is also nice. but no comparison to photoshop
[23:52] <genii> There's also Cinelerra
[23:52] <deftone> i'm on kubuntu 8.10 beta....what would be the proper directory to delete the folder to get back to default desktop like when i first installed kubuntu
[23:52] <zer0o> yes but photo studio is better for one function: vanishing photos into each other, it is something that you can adjust with layers and masks and gradient tool in gimp but u'll never get the same advanced effect that u get with photostudio
[23:53] <xweb> deftone: is it kde4 or 3
[23:53] <el-gokulo> afaik you can install photoshop with wine. but never tried it out
[23:53] <deftone> kde4
[23:53] <genii> I've heard some people are using CS3 under wine
[23:53] <zer0o> CS3 it's like gimp, actually gimp is better
[23:53] <NamShub> CS2 is on the list of the "must be gold for release" for 1.0, no?
[23:54] <zer0o> im looking for a photo editor that's it
[23:54] <xweb> ~/.kde4/share/config
[23:54] <el-gokulo> zer0o, try krita
[23:55] <el-gokulo> should be installed any way afaik
[23:56] <zer0o> Krita? mmm alright i'll give it a try, in the meantime im downloading ps and see if it runs on wine