[12:27] <Nece228> ubuntu dust should be included by default in intrepid
[12:29] <Nece228> its highest rated theme in gnome-look, and it looks radically different than the current
[12:58] <nand> thorwil: hey!
[12:58] <thorwil> hi nand
[12:58] <nand> I found a good opportunity for your widget to become famous :)
[12:58] <nand> http://trolltech.com/developer/pimp-my-widgets-developer-contest/
[12:59]  * thorwil looks
[13:03] <thorwil> nand: that's ... interesting. thanks for the info!
[13:03] <nand> thorwil: will you try to participate?
[13:04] <thorwil> nand: i have no clue how to work with qt designer and the prices don't interest me one bit :)
[13:05] <nand> thorwil: I was not expecting the price to be your motivation factor :)
[13:06] <nand> But well, you have some ideas and will to change our interaction with the UI, it's the occasion to actually show it :)
[13:07] <nand> Qt is not that hard, their docs is pretty clear. I have seen much worse!
[13:14]  * thorwil just received his first, or maybe second, fan-mail
[13:16] <nand> :) kyudo?
[13:16] <thorwil> nand: guess i should check if that qt stuff is better suited for demos / test implementations than py-gtk, anyway. atm, i'm a bit swamped, though
[13:17] <thorwil> nand: no, countdown banner
[13:17] <nand> eheh
[13:18] <thorwil> nand: so far only like 5 people showed actual interest in kyudo
[13:19]  * nand would really like to have "only" 5 contributor to ideatorrent 
[13:19] <nand> that's a good start, I'd say!
[13:19] <thorwil> heh, i said interested, not contributors ;)
[13:19] <nand> urg
[13:20] <nand> and did you started something concrete to show to the list? Having some concrete material can help gathering more interested people sometimes
[13:21] <nand> like your new fans :)
[13:21] <thorwil> with 5 somewhat competent people, we could run the entire show ...
[13:21] <thorwil> nand: it's just now in a state where i can move towards something more concrete
[13:22] <nand> cool!
[13:24] <thorwil> but i have artwork for wubi and mudlet on my list first. interest might heat up after intrepid release, anyway
[13:24] <nand> indeed
[13:33] <thorwil> nand: how are things going for you?
[13:35] <rsc--> hi folks
[13:36] <thorwil> hi rsc--
[13:37] <nand> thorwil: soso, work is not that interesting, and I don't find time anymore for my online hobbies
[13:37] <nand> hi rsc--
[13:37] <nand> hopefully that'll get resolved soon
[13:37] <thorwil> rsc--: tell you what, you should work on a countdown banner for next release instead of a wallpaper. much more rewarding, no shitty comments at all ;)
[13:38] <thorwil> nand: the interest of the hobbie part? hope at least the pay is ok :)
[13:38] <nand> that part is fortunately ok :)
[13:40] <kwwii> hi rsc--, thorwil, nand
[13:40] <thorwil> hello kwwii
[13:40] <nand> heya
[17:01] <Cimi> kwwii, please update murrine for intrepid
[17:17] <kwwii> Cimi: I am afraid that it is too late for that kind of change :-(
[17:18] <kwwii> Cimi: you might want to talk to pitti if you think you can convince him
[17:18] <Cimi> kwwii, first of all remove any kind of style line in ALL the gtkrcs
[17:19] <Cimi> so that people won't take those as a base (and spread the style = MURRINE option)
[17:20] <Cimi> do you know what you've done? you've introduced a broken development snapshot in a distro release
[17:26] <thorwil> ooh, drama!
[17:28] <Cimi> thorwil, if people will make themes using the version in intrepid, they will be completely (windows 95 look) in 9.04 or just when murrine will be updated
[17:28] <Cimi> *completely broken
[17:29] <Cimi> because the engine does not parse style = MURRINE option
[17:29] <Cimi> and it won't load
[17:29] <thorwil> awesome
[17:29] <Cimi> yeah
[17:29] <Cimi> expecting a lot of bugreports to your launchpad
[17:30] <Cimi> *latest update broke my theme*
[17:30] <Cimi> *updating murrine makes my themes look like...*
[17:30] <Cimi> etc etc
[18:04] <kwwii> we just won't update it until intrepid+1
[18:04] <kwwii> kinda silly to be changing the api anyway
[18:05] <kwwii> and if I updated it now, all upgraders would say "latest update broke my theme"
[18:05] <kwwii> in fact, it would break all themes out there, wouldn't it?
[18:12] <Cimi> kwwii, only dust I guess
[18:13] <Cimi> you just need to remove that line
[18:13] <Cimi> but if you wait april 09
[18:13] <Cimi> there wil be muuuch more themes that will broke
[19:40] <zniavre> sed -i 's!style[[:space:]]*=[[:space:]]*MURRINE!profile = MURRINE!' /usr/share/themes/DarkRoom/gtk-2.0/gtkrc