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NCommanderamitk, ping06:07
NCommanderHow does updateconfigs work? (i.e., I don't get how the common config is generated ...)07:30
amitkNCommander: if you add a new Kconfig option, running updateconfigs will prompt you for that config option for all flavours08:37
NCommanderamitk, I got that far :-)08:38
NCommanderamitk, its more figuring out what the configuration options should be on the new ones :-)08:38
* NCommander is already mostly done, just finishing sparc config08:39
amitkyou just have to know that. updateconfigs can't read developers minds yet :)08:39
NCommanderamitk, Its tedious work08:39
* amitk nods08:39
NCommanderOnce I finish 2.6.27, I'll start doing test builds08:40
* NCommander has access to all the port architectures :-)!08:40
amitksweet08:40
NCommanderamitk, find out about the kernel.u.c. account?08:41
* NCommander would like a place to hang his tree08:41
amitkNCommander: will shoot off email today08:45
NCommander\o\ /o/08:45
NCommanderamitk, generally, if something can be built as a module, it gets built as that. That's the rule of thumb I followed for kernel configuration updating (Linus added at least 30-40 new config options 25 -> 27 ;.;)08:46
amitkNCommander: probably fine for now, for Jaunty we might turn that rule over its head to improve on boot times.08:52
NCommanderamitk, I already put a note that we need to sanity check the config files08:52
NCommander(make sure no insane options for an architecture is there)08:52
NCommanderWOOOOOO08:54
NCommanderfinally08:54
NCommanderrebased08:54
NCommanderamitk, stupid question, how do I generate a new abi folder? (its pretty clear that 2.6.25 -> 2.6.27 will break an ABI)08:57
aboganiNafallo: Build process generate it automatically09:01
aboganiNafallo: Sorry09:01
aboganiI meant NCommander :-)09:01
NCommanderah09:01
NCommanderso now I get to see how miserable the ABI broke in two releases09:02
NCommanderwoow09:02
abogani;)09:02
NCommanderso whats sauce?09:02
NCommanderamitk, ^09:21
amitkNCommander: any patch that isn't upstream yet (those that _should_ go upstream + those that will never go upstream)09:27
NCommanderamitk, oh, that makes sense, anyway, 2.6.27 is building via debuild, so I haven't completely destoried the world yet ;-)09:28
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NCommanderamitk, hola10:39
mdzit looks like 263059 may have been caused by ftrace10:55
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NCommanderamitk, I just discovered linux-ports-meta doesn't depend on linux-firmware. Care to help fix that?11:17
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NCommanderhey BenC 13:39
* NCommander now has a building linux-port 2.6.27 kernel :-)!13:53
BenCNCommander: hey13:56
NCommanderMorning BenC :-)13:56
NCommanderI need some help resolving one last issue with linux-ports-meta before intrepid goes. I discovered this morning that linux-ports-meta doesn't depend on linux-firmware13:56
NCommanderBenC, care to help?13:58
NCommanderBenC, poke?14:17
Keybukrtg: which ftrace options did you change?14:21
rtgKeybuk: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git?p=ubuntu/ubuntu-intrepid.git;a=commit;h=67d9b90a1c844bf1c6daaffd2c60561fc8c445f714:23
BenCNCommander: Ok14:24
* NCommander has a git patch, but is somewhat confused by the current linux-ports-meta package14:24
Keybukthe explanation doesn't really make sense though14:25
Keybukit blames a bug on module _unload_14:25
Keybukwhen we're not unloading modules14:25
Keybuk(both for e1000 and iwl3945)14:25
mjg59Keybuk: also discarding of init sections14:25
Keybukmjg59: -v ?14:25
mjg59Keybuk: The ftrace issue also arises when the __init sections of modules are discarded after module load14:25
KeybukI guess that certainly fits the pattern of where the iwl3945 hang was occurring14:27
rtgKeybuk: can you reproduce it anymore?14:29
Keybuknope14:29
rtgKeybuk: well, I guess that's proof positive.14:30
Keybuksomething about the way iwl3945 works was causing corruption of ioremapped memory if another module's __init was discarded while it was initialising ??14:30
rtgKeybuk: got me. I didn't dig into it nearly that deep.14:32
Keybukme neither, I don't really understand this level of stuff ;)14:36
KeybukI could go and learn, but I'm more inclined to nod sweetly, back away, and stay in my comfort zone :p14:36
rtgKeybuk: that's pretty much my attitude. I'm buried with other issues.14:37
rtgthere seems to be plenty of confirmation that this fixes it.14:37
* NCommander needs someone who has no fear to help fix the -ports-meta package14:37
Keybukobviously someone should post to lkml that disabling ftrace has fixed another issue with another Intel driver ;)14:38
rtgKeybuk: i bugged the wireless folks last week about it, so I'll at least let them know what the solution was.14:39
BenCNCommander: A Git patch?14:43
NCommanderBenC, linux-ports-meta is maintained in git14:48
NCommander(aka git format-patchs)14:48
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BenCNCommander: hmm...not sure why, but ok14:50
Keybukrtg: is there a bug about the iwl3945 kill switch state not changing in userspace?14:51
rtgKeybuk: yep. hang on...14:51
rtgKeybuk: probably this one: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/intrepid/+source/linux/+bug/19397014:52
NCommanderBenC, I just made a realization; the ports kernel still has the firmwares compiled in as blobs so that change is unnecessary :-)14:52
rtgKeybuk: I think slangasek uploaded something in pm-utils to accommodate a sysfs change.14:52
BenCNCommander: that doesn't pull in the linux-firmware stuff14:53
NCommanderBenC, I don't think its needed unless I'm mistaken14:53
BenCNCommander: probably not...what about qla or aic scsi firmware?14:54
NCommanderBenC, TBH, I dunno. My powerpc doesn't have any devices that requires firmware14:54
NCommanderBenC, I have the patch: http://paste.ubuntu.com/60124/14:55
BenCNCommander: You don't want to add it to linux15:02
BenCNCommander: It needs to be added to linux-image-* if anything15:02
NCommanderBenC, that's how it was changed in linux-lpia ...15:02
BenCNCommander: then linux-lpia did it wrong :) Check linux-meta15:03
NCommanderAh15:03
NCommanderI see15:03
NCommanderBenC, in that case, care to sponsor two commits, and two sponsors ;-)?15:03
NCommanderBenC, http://paste.ubuntu.com/60126/15:06
NCommanderWoo, linux-ports 2.6.27 on PowerPC builds!15:22
NCommanderBenC, is my patch ok?15:44
BenCNCommander: best to ask someone who is actually handling that tree...I don't know enough about it15:49
* NCommander looks up Stefan Bader's IRC name15:51
rtgNCommander: smb, but he doesn't appear to be around this morning.15:52
NCommanderargh15:53
* BenC wonders where he is15:53
* NCommander turns on the smb light15:53
* NCommander hopes he'll see the Critical bug on linux-ports-meta15:54
NCommanderBenC, out of curosity, what are the requirements of getting a kernel.u.c account16:04
BenCNCommander: Not much...I'll get your account processed today or tomorrow16:34
BenCNCommander: inbox is flooded from weekend16:34
G__81i am interested in being part of kernel team. How can i help 17:05
G__81i have some linux internal knowledge on how networking subsystem works to an extent. I have one system and have installed Ibex 8.10 in Ibex 17:05
rtgG__81: start here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam and here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelMaintenance. Also subscribe to the kernel team mailing list.17:13
rtghere are the list of bugs that need working on: http://people.ubuntu.com/~ogasawara/intrepid-buglist.html17:14
G__81Yeah thanks i would look into it 17:18
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mnemoif you cherry pick this 2.6.28 patch for intrepid you will enable users with intel G45 motherboards to boot the ibex --> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-meta/+bug/28557221:01
mnemoi've tested this patch applied to intrepid's .27 kernel and it works perfectly (instead of freeze on xorg login I get full compiz with no xorg.conf hacks)21:02
mnemoI tested it on a "Gigabyte GA-EG45M-DS2" board but I'm fairly sure it applies to all the G45 desktop motherboards21:02
mnemothe patch itself is very non-intrusive and doesn't modify any code on non-G45 code paths21:03
Ngrtg: I think my boot crash is sorted now, just did 31 reboots with 2.6.27-7.12 and it didn't happen21:38
Ngdid the weird 3965 crash disappear as well?21:40
doctormoDo you guys know about the regression in 2.6.24-21-generic? involves snd_hda_intel and snd_hda_codec missing symbols.23:52
doctormolamont: because it's a bitch to have to recompile the kernel to fix the problem.23:54

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