[03:35] <lifeless> win 24
[05:19] <csilk> so why is lp going so slow?
[06:31] <poolie> it looks like soyuz no longer sends mail when packages complete building or are published?
[06:31] <Hobbsee> poolie: er...did it ever do that?
[06:32] <poolie> i thought it did
[06:32] <poolie> for PPAs i mean
[06:32] <poolie> i remember people complaining about it :)
[06:32] <Hobbsee> poolie: don't think so - mails are sent for packages being accepted (or rejected), and for build failures.
[06:32] <poolie> ah, maybe it was only for failure
[06:33] <Hobbsee> may well have been
[06:33] <poolie> that seems strange but maybe it's just me
[06:33] <Hobbsee> well, wouldn't you normally find out when you updated your system again?
[09:53] <wgrant> Who let tdflanders onto launchpad-users!?
[12:15] <tobydox> hi
[12:15] <tobydox> is there any possibility to reset my PPA to start all over?
[12:16] <persia> tobydox, Not really.  You could delete everything, but the record of the uploads would still remain, so you'd have to use larger version numbers when starting over.
[12:17] <tobydox> :-/
[12:17] <tobydox> I mean someone of the admins can't just reset it?
[12:18] <tobydox> persia: the problem is: I can't delete superseeded packages
[12:19] <persia> tobydox, Why would you need to do that?
[12:19] <tobydox> because those buggy builds are still in the archives
[12:19] <wgrant> Superseded packages will be deleted automatically.
[12:20] <tobydox> hm but seems to take much longer
[12:20] <persia> Well, deleted from the archive.  LP will still have them for recovery/comparison if required.
[12:32] <EricIsGood> I'm trying to view http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mysql/mysql-server/mysql-5.0/files but keep getting "please try agian"
[12:33] <wgrant> EricIsGood: The MySQL branches are huge... normally if you try a few times or perhaps wait a few minutes it will cache enough that it will work and continue to work.
[12:35] <EricIsGood> thanks... I'm trying to find the mysql source for Rand... any idea where it is in there repository?
[12:35] <wgrant> I don't know much about MySQL's code.
[12:36] <EricIsGood> does launchhpad have a source search function?
[12:47] <beuno> mdke, restarting the codebrowse server
[12:47] <beuno> you should be able to access the page in a few minutes
[12:50] <wgrant> beuno: Working for me now. Thanks.
[12:51] <beuno> :)
[12:52] <wgrant> EricIsGood: It seems to work now.
[12:55] <mwhudson> new record rss size for codebrowse!!
[12:55] <wgrant> mwhudson: How huge?
[12:55] <wgrant> And why does it leak so much?
[12:55] <mwhudson> wgrant: if we knew, we'd fix it
[12:57] <wgrant> Hmm.
[12:57] <NCommander> morning beuno
[13:10] <beuno> mornin NCommander
[13:10] <NCommander> beuno, care to look at a question on LP for me?
[13:11] <beuno> NCommander, sure
[13:11] <beuno> I'm off to lunch
[13:11] <beuno> but I'll get to it in an hour
[13:11] <beuno> paste it
[13:11] <beuno> \I'll read when I get back  :)
[13:11] <NCommander> ah
[13:48] <sgornick> How does one report "inappropriate content"?  I came across comment spam:  https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad-answers/+question/14154
[13:49] <persia> sgornick, Generally asking a question asking the offensive content to be removed.
[13:52] <sgornick> persia, thanks for your reply.  Meaning, asking a question via e-mail to someone on the helprotation list?  Or here in #launchpad,  or ... other method?
[13:52] <persia> On answers.launchpad.net
[13:53] <persia> Even when there is a help contact available, it's nice to have it for review/audit purposes.
[13:54] <sgornick> persia, I see ... similar to this one: https://answers.launchpad.net/malone/+question/45120
[13:55] <persia> Well, my browser doesn't seem to be opening any pages right now, but I suspect so.
[13:58] <beuno> NCommander, back!
[13:59] <NCommander> wb
[14:04] <beuno> NCommander, so, did I miss your question?
[14:04] <NCommander> beuno, oops
[14:04] <NCommander> beuno, https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/48531
[14:09] <beuno> NCommander, I'll get cprov or bigjools to take a peak at it between sessions
[14:09] <edsu> can someone help a noob understand how to push some code to https://launchpad.net/pymarc ?
[14:10] <beuno> edsu, have you seen https://help.launchpad.net/BzrHowto ?
[14:12] <edsu> beuno: not yet, thank you, i will read
[14:12] <beuno> edsu, feel free to ask if you still can't push
[14:19] <edsu> so in ~launchpad_user_or_team/project_name/branch can i leave off 'branch' to push to the trunk?
[14:19] <beuno> edsu, if you define a development focus for that project
[14:20] <beuno> you can just do:    bzr push lp:projectname
[14:24] <edsu> how do i defined the development focus?
[14:24] <edsu> s/defined/define/
[14:25] <edsu> i get an error like this when I try to push lp:pymarc ; bzr: ERROR: Cannot lock LockDir(http://bazaar.launchpad.net/%7Evcs-imports/pymarc/trunk/.bzr/repository/lock): Transport operation not possible: http does not support mkdir()
[14:27] <beuno> edsu, you didn't do:  bzr launchpad-login <username>
[14:27] <edsu> nope, but that wasn't in that howto either
[14:27]  * edsu tries
[14:28] <beuno> edsu, it isn't
[14:28] <beuno> it should  :)
[14:28]  * beuno looks
[14:32] <edsu> ok, i logged in ok (added my key to lp)
[14:32] <edsu> but now i get this: bzr: ERROR: Cannot lock LockDir(lp-46042832:///~vcs-imports/pymarc/trunk/.bzr/repositorylock): Transport operation not possible: readonly transport
[14:32] <edsu> note: i didn't set up pymarc initially, a lp admin did apparently, they took the code from my private repo and put it in lp, and i'd like to update it
[14:33] <beuno> edsu, ah
[14:33] <edsu> i imagine i might have to ask someone for permission to do that?
[14:33] <beuno> you can't push to vcimports...
[14:33] <beuno> hm
[14:34] <beuno> edsu, was that a one time import?
[14:34] <kiko-zzz> edsu, you should create a new branch now!
[14:34] <beuno> because if it's continuos, then you can't really push to it
[14:34] <edsu> here's what i'm looking at: https://launchpad.net/pymarc
[14:34] <edsu> so does it automatically pull?
[14:34] <beuno> edsu, imports do, yes
[14:35] <beuno> *but*, you probably want the project in launchpad/bzr, right?
[14:35] <beuno> you can always merge from the import
[14:35] <edsu> well i'm ok with it being elsewhere, as long as it updates
[14:35] <edsu> as long as lp updates i mean
[14:35] <beuno> edsu, so you'll push elsewhere?
[14:35] <beuno> it'll be slower though
[14:36] <beuno> because it has to import n' stuff
[14:36] <edsu> how much slower? is it known how often lp pulls?
[14:36] <beuno> it varies
[14:36] <cjwatson> it sounds like you actually want to push to ~edsu/pymarc/trunk (or whatever your LP username is, or ~team)
[14:36] <beuno> so *much* slower
[14:36] <cjwatson> and then set that as the development focus
[14:36] <cjwatson> and regard ~vcs-imports as obsolete
[14:36] <beuno> I think cjwatson is right  :)
[14:36] <edsu> cjwatson: ahh :)
[14:36] <edsu> how do i set the development focus again?
[14:36] <beuno> edsu, edit the branch
[14:37] <beuno> when you upload a new branch
[14:37] <beuno> you'll see an edit icon next to the title
[14:37] <mwhudson> https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~vcs-imports/pymarc/trunk
[14:37] <mwhudson> what?
[14:37] <mwhudson> how did that end up like that?
[14:37] <mwhudson> it's a mirrored branch, but owned by vcs-imports
[14:40] <cjwatson> edsu: if you decide you want to do the mirrored branch thing (pulls every few hours, IME) then you can set that up from https://code.launchpad.net/pymarc/+addbranch
[14:40] <cjwatson> I do that for man-db
[14:40] <cjwatson> which is a situation where the initial branch was created by ~vcs-imports by importing a CVS repository, but that's now obsolete
[14:42]  * edsu pushes
[14:49] <edsu> i guess if want to update the url that https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~vcs-imports/pymarc/trunk is pulling from i'd have to talk to Tim Penhey?
[14:50] <beuno> edsu, why do you want to update the URL?
[14:50] <beuno> you can just push a new branch to LP
[14:50] <beuno> or do you still want to commit remotely?
[14:52] <edsu> well it would fix the problem of the url not being correct anymore
[14:53] <thumper> edsu: you can ask a question on launchpad-bazaar and someone will get to it
[14:53] <edsu> i did just push, but i don't see anywhere how to set the development focus at https://code.edge.launchpad.net/pymarc
[14:54] <beuno> edsu, https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~ehs-pobox/pymarc/trunk
[14:54] <beuno> you should see an edit icon next to the title
[14:54] <thumper> edsu: did you want me to delete the vcs-import branch?
[14:55] <thumper> edsu: is this your project?
[14:55] <thumper> edsu: if it is we can change the project maintainer to you rather than the registry admin team
[14:55] <edsu> it is my project yeah
[14:56] <thumper> edsu: once you are the maintainer, you can set the dev focus
[14:56] <edsu> so i set the radio button to 'Development'?
[14:56] <thumper> edsu: that doesn't make it the dev focus
[14:57] <thumper> kiko: can we give edsu the pymarc project?
[14:57] <edsu> ahh ok, how do i become the maintainer? should i talk to Tim Penhey mentioned here https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~vcs-imports/pymarc/trunk ?
[14:57] <thumper> edsu: that's me
[14:57] <edsu> thumper: oh hi :)
[14:57]  * beuno tries to remember how to set the dev focius
[14:57] <edsu> thumper: thanks for adding pymarc to launchpad a while back :)
[14:57] <thumper> edsu: however we need an lp admin to change the project maintainer from the registry admin to you
[14:57] <edsu> thumper: gotcha
[14:57] <thumper> beuno: from the series
[14:58] <thumper> beuno: we should have a link on the project code page
[14:58] <beuno> ah, ew
[14:58] <beuno> actually
[14:58] <beuno> kinda no
[14:58] <thumper> beuno: maybe, maybe not
[14:59] <kiko> thumper, sure. does he want it?
[14:59] <thumper> beuno: we can talk later
[14:59] <beuno> https://launchpad.net/pymarc/+edit
[14:59] <thumper> kiko: yes,
[14:59] <beuno> edsu, ^
[14:59] <beuno> on the bottom
[15:00] <kiko> edsu, what's your launchpad id?
[15:00] <kiko> thumper, edsu: saw the privmsg, done
[15:00] <kiko> edsu, yours :)
[15:00] <edsu> kiko++ # thanks
[15:01] <edsu> bueno++
[15:01] <edsu> thumper++ # too for patience, and info
[15:01] <thumper> edsu: https://edge.launchpad.net/pymarc/trunk, there is a menu on the RHS to link to branch
[15:01] <thumper> edsu: put your branch in there
[15:02] <thumper> edsu: I'll mark the old vcs-import branch as abandoned
[15:04] <edsu> odd i can't seem to find my branch in the 'Select a Branch' menu, it only seems to find stuff in ~vcs-imports
[15:05] <thumper> edsu: just type in your lp id
[15:05] <thumper> edsu: and it should find your branch
[15:05] <edsu> right on
[15:06] <thumper> edsu: worked?
[15:06] <kiko> thumper, yeah, that vocab is weird
[15:06] <edsu> think so
[15:06] <thumper> kiko: yeah, kinda
[15:06] <thumper> kiko: we should change the widget rather than the vocab
[15:06] <thumper> implementation details
[15:06] <thumper> edsu: yep it worked
[15:06] <beuno> thumper, talking about implementation details
[15:06] <mwhudson> "invalid input, which of these 1 options did you actually mean?!"
[15:06] <edsu> sweet, thanks much
[15:06] <beuno> I found my "ToDo with thumper at Epic" note
[15:07] <thumper> edsu: you'll notice you can get your branch with `lp:pymarc` now
[15:08] <edsu> very nice
[15:09] <thumper> edsu: I notice that your last three commits don't have full email addresses in the bzr commit log
[15:10] <thumper> edsu: new machine?
[15:23] <edsu> thumper: yeah, is it just ed@hammer?
[15:23] <thumper> edsu: uh ha
[15:23] <thumper> edsu: `bzr whoami`
[15:23] <edsu> thumper: i hadn't run bzr whoami yet on that machine :(
[15:23] <thumper> edsu: no time like the present
[15:23] <edsu> yup already done sir
[15:23]  * beuno has a half-baked patch for bzr to warn you about that
[16:44] <aladin> How can I add me to the list named "Also notified" of a bug?
[16:45] <thekorn> aladin: subscribe to the bug mail for this project/package
[16:48] <thekorn> aladin: if it is a rojects the link is like https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/yourproject/+subscribe
[16:49] <thekorn> or for a package : https://edge.launchpad.net/mydistro/+source/mypackage/+subscribe
[16:51] <aladin> thekorn: I want to be notified by https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/102910    Have I do click to "Subscripe"?
[16:53] <thekorn> aladin: in this case click on "subscribeÂ" to get all bugmails for tjhis bugreport
[16:56] <aladin> thekorn:  OK. Now I am on the list of Subscribers. How can I put me on the list "Also notified" in this case?
[16:57] <andrea-bs> aladin: do you want to receive notifications about all bugs in ubuntu?
[16:58] <persia> aladin, You *don't* want to receive notifications about all bugs in ubuntu.  The volume is high enough that it will probably break your mail client unless you have specialised scripting in place.
[16:58] <aladin> andrea-bs: About all bugs? No. About some bugs...
[16:59] <andrea-bs> aladin: are you interested in some specific packages?
[17:01] <aladin> andrea-bs: Yes, but also interested in some bugs without corresponding packages (Bug 102910).
[17:02] <mpt> ooh, that's an interesting and useful thing
[17:02] <andrea-bs> aladin: well, actually you can only subscribe to specific packages or to everything in ubuntu
[17:02] <mpt> subscribed to all bugs without packages
[17:02] <mpt> report a bug asking for that :-)
[17:03] <mpt> (Actually, that would probably still be a deluge)
[17:04] <aladin> andrea-bs: OK, thank you!
[18:19] <calc> why does this bug show up as an upstream pending bug for OOo?
[18:19] <calc> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openoffice.org/+bug/216995
[18:19] <calc> er pending_bugwatch to be precise
[18:52] <mae^> can someone help me.. when I branch the ActiveRDF trunk I'm only getting 1 revision in the branch history though I can see all the revisions through the loggerhead interface
[18:55] <beuno> mae^, what's the URL?
[18:55] <mae^> https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~activerdf/activerdf/trunk/
[18:56] <beuno> mae^, ah, the branch seems borken somehow
[18:57] <beuno> do you have write access to it?
[18:58] <mae^> dont think so
[18:58] <beuno> mae^, ok, I'll try and get an admin to look at it
[18:59] <mae^> thanks
[19:35] <beuno> mae^, trying to fix it now...
[19:48] <mae^> beuno: great!
[19:51] <mthaddon> mae^, should now be fixed
[20:44] <det> I have source packages compatible with both ubuntu and debian, does launchpad offer a PPA service for Debian ?
[20:44] <beuno> det, it doesn't for now
[20:44] <det> If not, are there any other services that I can use ?
[20:45] <beuno> I wouldn't know who else provides build serviced...
[20:52] <NCommander> det, SuSE's build service supports Debian, but that may not be what you are looking for
[20:53]  * NCommander notes that more for building custom distributions
[21:02] <mae^> mthaddon: hrmm.. nope  http://pastie.org/297452
[21:03] <mthaddon> mae^, thx - we just realized this here - still working on it... :(
[21:07] <beuno> mae^, that actually looks alright
[21:07] <beuno> 717 revisions
[21:12] <mae^> beuno: look at the branch history.. 1 revision
[21:12] <beuno> mae^, try running:  bzr reconcile
[21:14] <mae^> holy fsck! that was it! what did that do?
[21:14] <beuno> to me, it's mostly magic
[21:16] <mae^> so doesn't that mean the branch on the launchpad side needs the same?
[21:16] <beuno> yes
[21:17] <beuno> we ran it
[21:17] <beuno> I don;t know why it's still broken
[21:17] <beuno> some moving part I don't know about
[21:18] <mae^> hrmm. so is it fixable?
[21:22] <beuno> yes
[21:22] <beuno> I'll email the owner
[21:22] <beuno> unless you know him
[21:23] <mae^> I talked with him last night, he didn't know what to do and only had a lightweight checkout on his machine so he didn't have any of the old revisions
[21:24] <beuno> mae^, get him to run:    bzr reconcile lp:activerdf
[21:24] <beuno> and it'll get fixed
[21:24] <beuno> I have a copy of the branch
[21:24] <beuno> so we can find out what went wrong
[21:24] <mae^> ok, I'll pass that along
[21:25] <beuno> thanks
[21:29] <mae^> thank *you*
[21:29] <huayra> !bug #1
[22:28] <awilkins> Question : what are the odds of you lot releasing launchpad sources to a major national governmental organisation for internal trial and development?
[23:04] <Odd_Bloke> I'm looking at https://code.launchpad.net/~daniel-thewatkins/bzr-twitter/bzr-twitter and am wondering if Launchpad might have a copy from before whatever went wrong on my end went wrong?
[23:15] <kiko> Odd_Bloke, hmmm, probably not
[23:16] <Odd_Bloke> :(
[23:16] <Odd_Bloke> I'll look at this more tomorrow.
[23:16] <Odd_Bloke> kiko: Thanks for answering. :)