[17:55] <thorwil> kwwii: had a look at the get_ubuntu banners? if i hear nothing else, i'll go with Mathews choice of nr. 3
[17:56] <kwwii> thorwil: yes, I like #3 as well
[17:56] <kwwii> it seems to be the most well balanced very
[17:56] <kwwii> version
[17:57] <thorwil> kwwii: his only concern was that it doesn't look clickable
[18:03]  * thorwil -> food
[18:49] <thorwil> plop
[18:54] <kwwii> thorwil: I guess you could underline the GET to make it look more like a link
[18:55] <thorwil> kwwii: was my first thought. a bit brutal. i gonna try to give the whole thing a button look
[18:56] <kwwii> or perhaps add some kind of mouse-cursor-like arrow to say "click here"
[18:57] <thorwil> kwwii: that was my second thought ;)
[19:01] <psyke83> kwwii: hey, did you figure out the panel bg thingy?
[19:09] <kwwii> psyke83: well, I know how set the bg_pixmap but apparently there is no way to tell it to stretch
[19:10] <kwwii> if I set the pixmap in gtkrc then the gconf stretch setting gets ignored
[19:10] <kwwii> if I set it all in gconf it works great but people complain that it is too hard to change themes
[19:12] <psyke83> kwwii: what about the pixmap engine options, then? I think there's overlay_stretch, though I'm not sure if it can do what you want
[19:12] <kwwii> sometimes I think that if I don't learn how to hack on gnome/gtk we'll never be able to theme the desktop right
[19:13] <kwwii> psyke83: yeah, I saw that in a couple of themes...not sure if I want to use another engine in the default ubuntu theme though
[19:13] <psyke83> there's overlay_stretch and stretch options (both booleans)
[19:13] <kwwii> not sure what that will do to the performance
[19:13] <psyke83> right...
[19:20] <psyke83> kwwii: after checking the docs, I'm sure that bg_pixmap is explicitly for tiled images only, unfortunately
[19:22] <psyke83> perhaps you can work around this problem; make the pixmap exactly 24pt high, and draw it in such a way that the horizontal tiling will not be noticeably (no seams)
[19:22] <psyke83> *noticeable
[19:32] <kwwii> psyke83: yeah, but that ruins the whole effect of the pic :-(
[19:33] <psyke83> damn, too bad... it seems the pixmap engine is your only option then (aside from gconf keys)
[19:34] <thorwil> did i mention that i believe we are living in the digital stone-age? :)
[19:34] <kwwii> hehe, no doubt
[19:37] <ian_brasil__> the gconf gtk_theme on intrepid is set to Human-Clearlooks but there is no entry on /usr/share/themes or .themes for this
[19:37] <ian_brasil__> how does this work?
[19:38]  * ian_brasil__ apologizes for possible dumb question
[20:17] <kwwii> hi ian_brasil__ ...what in the world are you doing working on themeing?
[20:17] <ian_brasil__> kwwii: hey! if you really want to know working on a book about ubuntu mobile
[20:18] <ian_brasil__> with a section on theming
[20:20] <kwwii> ian_brasil__: wow, sounds really cool
[20:20] <kwwii> ian_brasil__: if you need any info feel free to send me a personal email
[20:23] <ian_brasil__> kwwii? ok, i will do...gtk themes are a bit confusing IMO
[20:31] <zniavre> good evening / bonsoir
[20:31] <thorwil> good evening zniavre
[20:31] <zniavre> i m looking for theming notification do you know where it's possible to change the human look notification ?
[20:33] <zniavre> > /apps/notification-daemon/theme  if i just point to my gtkrc it change nothing
[20:34] <lucazade> try theme "Standard"
[20:35] <kwwii> zniavre: the colors and such are defined in the gtkrc
[20:36] <zniavre> via wich widget the notification are defined?
[20:36] <zniavre> (sorry my english i am a bit french
[20:40] <kwwii> zniavre: erm, I take that pack...it takes the colors from the gtkrc (bg and fg) but nothing else in the gtkrc
[20:40] <kwwii> I was thinking of the tooltips
[20:42] <zniavre> thank you
[20:49] <zniavre> some body knows how to restart notification-daemon ?  :-[
[20:55] <thorwil> kwwii: http://xs432.xs.to/xs432/08432/get_8_10_02879.png
[20:59] <kwwii> wow, there are no longer drivers for my graphics chip to enable compiz
[20:59] <kwwii> what a major regression
[20:59] <kwwii> thorwil: I prefer the second...looks nice
[21:00] <kwwii> although the underlined GET does say "click me" more than the second
[21:00] <kwwii> but the second is prettier :p
[21:00] <thorwil> kwwii: good, thanks. over in #ubuntu-website the overworked newz still worries it won't be taken as link
[21:02] <thorwil> kwwii: i would lean towards 2A , but 1A (need both to take the place of each countdown banner series)
[21:02] <thorwil> arg, 1C, of course
[21:03]  * thorwil wonders how many friggin bug notifications he saw today for that panel bg
[21:10]  * thorwil pushes latest work on the wubi window
[21:12] <thorwil> good night!
[21:48] <kwwii> yeah, time for sleep