[00:32] bdmurray: ping [00:32] calc: howdy [00:33] bdmurray: hey what ever happened to the new graph layout that was shown at the sprint? [00:33] calc: this one? http://status.qa.ubuntu.com/qapkgstatus/openoffice.org [00:34] bdmurray: cool, is it being updated regularly now? [00:34] yeah [00:34] every 30min IIRC [00:34] yep, there's lots of good stuff there too [00:34] like bugs w/ patches ... resolved uptream, etc [00:35] (that's how often the cron job on kumquat is supposed to run, maybe the one on people.u.c doesn't run that often) [00:35] is there a daily version of the graph? [00:35] calc: the triaging one? [00:37] yea [00:37] calc: they are all in http://people.ubuntu.com/~brian/complete-graphs/openoffice.org/plots/ [00:38] look for triaging or fixing [00:38] bdmurray: well a daily version of what is shown on the qapkgstatus page (all on one graph but daily) [00:38] ahh i see now [00:38] :) [00:46] ogasawara: what's the reboot kernel option? [00:46] bdmurray: reboot=b [00:46] when booting right? [00:47] thats for bios reboot [00:47] there are 4 different letters that can go after reboot= i think [00:47] maco: correct, there are a few options you can use [00:47] bdmurray: I'm assuming you were wanting the option I was using with that Dell Dimension 9200 reboot bug I fixed? [00:48] ogasawara: Yeah, I was curious for bug 70793 [00:48] Launchpad bug 70793 in linux-source-2.6.22 "Edgy: Reboot hangs on HP Pavillion a530n" [Medium,Won't fix] https://launchpad.net/bugs/70793 [00:48] bdmurray: and yes, it's a kernel boot param [00:49] ogasawara: so if reboot=b works it could be quirked (for jaunty) right? [00:50] bdmurray: possibly. however, the primary reboot quirks were for Dells [00:50] hmm, okay [00:51] bdmurray: actually I take that back, there is one HP quick I see [00:51] bdmurray: but for HP Compaq [00:51] s/quick/quirk/ [00:52] Alright, I'll ask them to test [02:01] Anyone around, I gotta quick changelog question [02:01] motu is dead [02:02] csilk: What is your question? [02:02] win goto #gnome-hackers [02:03] Could I have Importance changed to low for Bug #283953 please? [02:03] Launchpad bug 283953 in catfish "Catfish' default search directory is /usr/share/catfish" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/283953 [02:03] the default changelog entry from dh_make is * Initial release (Closes: #nnnn) whereas one part of the wiki says I should do this > * Initial Ubuntu package (LP: #242910) [02:03] Which one is standard for a new package? [02:04] obviously # is a variable [02:05] The wording is not important. Just be sure you use LP: #NNNNNN instead of closes: #NNNNNN [02:05] So the wiki is correct [02:06] nhandler, does this only apply to new packages or would this extend to features and bug fixes? [02:06] (LP: #NNNNNN) is the syntax used to close bugs on Launchpad. (closes: #NNNNNN) is used in Debian to close bugs on the BTS [02:07] Thanks nhandler [02:07] No problem csilk [02:07] That should probably be included in the main part of the packagin wiki entry [02:07] *packaging [02:08] csilk: I'm not positive, but I am pretty sure that it is explained in some wiki page. [02:09] nhandler, yeah it is but it's really obscure [02:10] csilk: I'm probably not the best person to talk to about wiki issues. I would ask some other MOTUs what they think, and if they agree that it should be explained in more detail on the packaging guide, go ahead and add it in. [02:10] Ok cool [02:39] hello all...new here would like to know how I can help? [02:41] julian, Well, there's quite a few bugs outstanding, and reviewing them to make sure they have enough information to be fixed can be very helpful. [02:42] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.status%3Alist=New&field.importance%3Alist=Undecided&search=Search is a list of those that nobody has reviewed yet. [02:42] ok, thanks will take a look. [02:42] Ask here if you have any questions, and if you run out, there are other things that could also be done :) [02:44] ok [02:46] Could I have Importance changed to low for Bug #283953 please? [02:46] Launchpad bug 283953 in catfish "Catfish' default search directory is /usr/share/catfish" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/283953 [02:46] It's taken me months to confirm it. [02:53] charlie-tca, it was already changed [02:54] Thanks [05:49] good morning [05:53] morning all [05:55] dholbach: five-a-day did something broken when it updated [05:55] dholbach: and arent you up really early? [05:56] maco: yes, Mimi's alarm clock went off at 5:30 and I couldn't get back to sleep... so here I am :) [05:56] maco: what went broken? [05:56] ah, i was going to say, this isnt even late here yet [05:56] five-a-day and five-a-day-applet tried to update [05:57] wow, 9th contributor for the last 7 days. [05:57] I should do some more on that [05:57] Setting up five-a-day (0.58~hardy1) ... [05:57] pycentral: pycentral pkginstall: not overwriting local files [05:57] pycentral pkginstall: not overwriting local files [05:57] maco: interesting [05:58] I'm not sure though what I can do in five-a-day to work around that [05:58] let me get another opinion [05:58] maco: I just pinged doko about it in #ubuntu-devel [05:58] could well be that he's not up for quite a while [06:06] ok [06:26] maco: could it be that you have local files? [06:29] dholbach: um, i have my ~/.5-a-day-maco/ [06:29] dholbach: do i have to delete that to install the update? [06:29] maco: no [06:30] did you manually install or change any of the files listed in /var/lib/dpkg/info/five-a-day*.list ? [06:31] I've reported a bug that breaks intrepid upgrades, but it isn't being responded to. Is there any mechanism to escalate? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dokuwiki/+bug/270701 [06:31] Launchpad bug 270701 in dokuwiki "dokuwiki upgrade hangs on keyboard input" [Undecided,New] [06:31] dholbach: no [06:32] what can be done? hate to see intrepid upgrades start breaking [06:33] chipr: I added an update-manager task === bdmurray changed the topic of #ubuntu-bugs to: Hug Day! https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugDay/20081021 | Ubuntu BugSquad | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugSquad | Documentation: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HelpingWithBugs | If you have been triaging bugs for a while, please apply to https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-bugcontrol/ | Want to report a bug? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs | User support (not related to triage) is in #ubuntu [07:11] How do I find the source to a package? I'm reading HowToFix and it shows downloading the xicc_0.2-2.dsc source, but doesn't show how it found the URL to it. [07:11] chipr: apt-get source [07:34] good morning === thekorn_ is now known as thekorn [07:37] hi [07:38] thekorn: dholbach doesn't know why, but the newest five-a-day refuses install, saying pkginstall: not overwriting local files...but i havent edited any system files related to five-a-day, just my my ~/.5-a-day-maco.m/* [07:38] do you have any idea? [07:45] maco: well, I've no clue, he is the packaging expert ;) [07:53] is this a virtual package http://packages.ubuntu.com/intrepid/libgtkglext1 ? [07:57] wonr chan [07:57] *wrong channel [07:59] thekorn: oh right...haha i was thinking it could have something to do with code, but yeah..forgot he was the packaging guru [09:09] before i enter a bug report for network manager, i want to reset its configuration. where do i do that? [09:10] ok never mind found it [09:23] can someone help me triage this bug? did i make the bug report correctly? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/286859 [09:23] Launchpad bug 286859 in network-manager "[0.7] [3G] "PIN secret invalid" even though PIN is correct" [Undecided,New] [09:46] i would like to report a bug in network manager, but i am not sure whether it's ath9k or nm related. nm keeps asking me for the key. can someone help me? [10:48] i would like to report a bug in network manager, but i am not sure whether it's ath9k or nm related. nm keeps asking me for the key. can someone help me? [10:48] help me= help me post a proper bug report [10:49] danage, In the absence of anyone providing you with guidance, I'd suggest either waiting about 6 hours and asking again, or filing a bug with what you know. [10:49] Someone triaging the bug will ask the right questions. [10:58] persia: thanks. especially with this bug i have no clue on what additional information i should post [10:59] I'd probably post .xsession-errors /var/log/syslog, dmesg, and lspci -vvnn, but that's just a loose guess based on it being maybe something with nm and maybe something with the driver. === asac__ is now known as asac === LucidFox_ is now known as LucidFox [13:00] g'morning everyone :) [13:15] what package should a bug about a default theme be placed under? [13:16] ibbuntu, Which flavour? [13:17] Alternately, which theme? [13:17] persia: it's the ubuntu 'High Contrast Inverse' theme [13:19] ibbuntu, I think that's gnome-themes [13:20] ok, thanks [13:20] Wait, no. [13:22] It's gnome-accessibility-themes. Sorry for the confusion. [13:22] ok, thanks, I couldn't find an "ubuntu-themes" package in launchpad [13:25] well that concludes my first ever triaging of a bug, hopefully I'll do many more :) [13:43] Hi, is there a list of tags somewhere? I'm reporting a ftbfs bug and am wondering if I should just put [ftbfs] in the title or add the ftbfs tag [13:47] jrib, You could add the FTBFS tag. I don't know if anyone searches that : most of the ftbfs hunting I see is from http;//qa.ubuntuwire.com/ftbfs/ [13:47] (and that works better with a :) [13:49] I was wondering why I couldn't click [13:50] Yeah, typo. [13:51] persia: this has me asking why the package I want to report is not listed there. It's python-webkitgtk [13:52] jrib: When did it fail to build? That page looks like its updated daily (see footer) [13:52] It fails because of the version of python-gtk2-dev, I made a bug upstream about it: http://code.google.com/p/pywebkitgtk/issues/detail?id=19 [13:52] jrib: Hi, you can find a list of tags at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Tags . [13:52] Pici: I believe I noticed on friday. At least more than one day [13:53] jibel: thanks, not sure how I missed that :) [13:53] jrib, Looks like it was last rebuilt in August, so the dependencies changed. We don't catch that so well yet. [13:54] persia: ah, ok [14:09] How can I link bug 286965 with http://code.google.com/p/pywebkitgtk/issues/detail?id=19 ? What magic button must I click? [14:09] Launchpad bug 286965 in pywebkitgtk "fails to build from source" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/286965 [14:10] I'm on edge by the way [14:10] I usually use the "Also affects project" under the yellow line [14:11] charlie-tca: Do I just make up my own project then? I thought there was some text field that just let me enter a url at some point [14:13] That normally does. If it doesn't, I add it to the comments since upstream may not be in launchpad [14:41] Hi there, I believe I found an issue with package mnogo-client. It refuses to automatically configure itself because mysql says that when I try to configure it, it's not actually sending it a password, even if I specify a password in the installation script. [14:42] I was told that someone in here might be able to help me verify this [14:42] Checking to see what mnogo-client is. :) [14:43] actually, wrong package [14:43] it's either mnogosearch-client or mnogosearch-mysql [14:44] hardy or intrepid? [14:44] hh [14:45] The step it seems to trip over itself on is the step that offers to automatically configure itself with mysql [14:45] It tosses a MySQL driver: #1045: Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO) [14:45] Is there a bug filed? [14:45] No, but I was wanting to make sure that I was running into a bug and not overlooking something [14:46] Looks like a bug, since it doesn't create the database [14:46] Yeah, i get that exact error if I use a console and mysql --user=root [14:46] Setting up mnogosearch-common (3.3.6-1ubuntu0.1) ... [14:46] '/usr/share/mnogosearch/tables/mysql/drop.blob.sql' dbtype=2 dbmode=6 [14:46] SQL>'DROP TABLE url' [14:46] {../../src/sqldbms.c:2269} Query: DROP TABLE url [14:46] MySQL driver: #1049: Unknown database 'mnogosearch' [14:46] So it's a config bug [14:47] I'm not sure that's the problem. Scroll down a bit and see if it gives you Access Denied [14:47] It doesn't, because the user I selected has create authority [14:48] The user i specify is root, yet it says that Access is denied [14:48] because of lack of password [14:48] even though I send it a password [14:48] That's a separate issue. [14:48] Maybe it uses a different script for each 'type'. Did you select blob, multi, or single? [14:48] I selected blob [14:49] And you're using 3.3.6-1ubuntu0.1? [14:51] Yep [15:05] Bug submitted [15:06] jibel: thanks for your work on update-manager bug triage \o/ [15:06] It doesn't really matter in the end. I just wanted to fool around with it, however this search is eventually going to end up on a RHEL 5 box and I don't think they have a package for it, so I'm going to have to figure out how to compile the thing manually anyway. Thanks for your help [15:12] alexmax: NP. It looks like it may be a simple fix to get it fully automated. === dholbach_ is now known as dholbach [15:35] mvo: Thank you. [15:36] i would like to report a bug in network manager, but i am not sure whether it's ath9k or nm related. nm keeps asking me for the key. can someone help me? (help me= help me post a proper bug report) [15:37] danage: which key are you being asked for? the keyring key, or the wifi key? [15:39] um... the wifi key. [15:45] this is not a bug. it is possible for the network manager to save the wifi key in the gnome keyring... [15:46] however, if you do that, you will still be asked for the gnome keyring master password each time you login... [15:48] have a look here: [15:48] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WPAHowTo#Avoiding%20password%20nagging [15:51] is this what you were looking for? [15:59] hi all [16:00] azimout: thanks for that, but it was NEVER an issue for me before [16:00] network manager would just connect to the network, no problem [16:01] it only came with my new wifi card [16:02] if i'm not mistaken, old network managers saved the password in a file in your home folder in plaintext => security issues [16:02] old = 0.6 [16:02] ? [16:02] now it's saved in encrypted for in network manager [16:03] i meant in gnome keyring [16:03] yes [16:03] BUT the password is already IN THE BOX when it pops up [16:03] it cannot be on purpose, this? [16:13] th [16:13] er [16:14] im am new . do i get a hug if i triage as well [16:15] danage: can you please look into seahorse (applications->accessories->passwords and encryption keys)? [16:15] check if the wifi key is under the tab "passwords" or not [16:20] Hi all...here to help out with the Hug Day [16:21] hi [16:21] this is so cool [16:22] i was told that there are iso files available that re-create some of the bugs. [16:22] can someone point me in the right direction [16:22] Bit_Breaker: some bugs can be recreated using the Live CD. [16:23] oh ok thanks bdmurray [16:24] azimout: yes, it is [16:24] The iso that you want probably depends on the bug report [16:25] Bit_Breaker: Is there a particular bug you are looking at? [16:26] im looking at Low/Medium bugs now [16:26] i wanted to re-create them in a VM [16:26] azimout: i deleted them all now, see what happens [16:26] What virtualization software are you using? [16:26] i am not looking at any specific bug [16:26] VirtualBox [16:27] question: how do you mark a bug as wishlist? [16:28] danage: anyways, i have to admit i don't have much experience in this [16:28] ichthyoboy: you use the importance drop down - by the way only members of bug control can set importance [16:28] ichthyoboy: mark it confirmed and then request it here [16:28] bdmurray: thanks [16:28] azimout: now it doesn't connect at all [16:28] ah man, this sucks [16:29] but any problems you might have are definitely network-manager/gnome-keyring/seahorse related, and not driver-related (i.e. ath9k) [16:29] charlie-tca: thanks [16:29] azimout: ok [16:29] bdmurray: can you connect me with someone who can help me fetch the necessary information to file a network manager bug [16:30] danage: Is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingNetworkManager insufficient? [16:30] Can i confirm a bug if its similar to what some else is experiencing [16:31] bdmurray: this is wonderful, didn't know it existed. thank you [16:31] Bit_Breaker: bugs can sometimes have the same symptoms but different root causes. So similarity really depends on the type of bug. [16:33] bdmurray: do you know if bug 274995 is on anyone's radar? I also am not sure what importance to give it, probably Medium? [16:33] Launchpad bug 274995 in alsa-utils "shutdown freeze on alsa shutdown" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/274995 [16:34] this is the bug i am refering to [16:34] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24/+bug/244405 [16:34] Launchpad bug 244405 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24 "ubuntu freezes on log out or switch user" [Medium,Confirmed] [16:34] i just changed it to confirmed . [16:34] Was i wrong to do so? [16:35] bdmurray: Oct 21 17:33:03 Computer kernel: [ 8374.908084] wlan0: authentication with AP 00:1f:3f:13:d2:ec timed out [16:35] i guess the wiki page _is_ insufficient [16:37] Bit_Breaker: I don't think is sufficient information to set it to Confirmed. [16:38] bug #262506 should be marked as wishlist [16:38] Launchpad bug 262506 in ubuntu-meta "The description of the package 'ubuntu-desktop' is grossly missleading" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/262506 [16:39] ok sry about that [16:39] Bit_Breaker: and please do not assigne to a bugreport, this means you are working on it, you probably want to subscribe [16:39] yes i see that now [16:40] sry again [16:40] Its easy to fix and not a big deal. ;) [16:40] cool!! :-) [16:42] bdmurray: so do you perhaps know someone i could talk to [16:42] broken wifi is... bad [16:44] mrooney: that bug seems like it might contain multiple issues [16:51] ichthyoboy: wishlisted - thanks [16:55] anyone aware of a dupe for bug 287040? [16:55] Launchpad bug 287040 in gnome-utils "Can't take screenshot when right click menu active" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/287040 [16:57] Had to reboot [17:12] bug #177882 should be marked as either wishlist or low (probably low) [17:12] Launchpad bug 177882 in compizconfig-settings-manager "Shift-F10 keyboard shortcut should emulate right click" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/177882 [17:14] ichthyoboy: Have you tested that at all? Shift+F10 behaved the desired way for me [17:17] just did, and it works as expected for me as well. Should it be reset to new, and ask for followup? [17:18] ichthyoboy: well, incomplete but yes that sounds best to me [17:18] bdmurray: ok..will do. [17:18] ichthyoboy: thanks! [17:19] bdmurray: No problem...glad to be able to help a little bit! [17:21] bdmurray: i have tried from a live cd now - same problem. also, sporadically it does connect. when it does, no data can get transmitted. i DO however get an ip - dns doesn't work, transfers don't work. over wired internet everything is fine [17:21] *wired lan [17:22] danage: which live cd and which network driver? [17:22] nightly live cd downloaded 2 hours ago, network driver ath9k for wlan and e1000 for lan lan [17:23] Do you have linux-backports-modules installed? I think that has a newer wireless driver [17:25] Would bug #280975 apply mainly to upstream sources (i.e., firefox, konqueror, opera, etc.) [17:25] Launchpad bug 280975 in ubuntu-meta "include CAcert root certificate by default in firefox/konqueror/???-browser" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/280975 [17:27] bdmurray: let me try. thanks [17:38] bdmurray: no luck. even though it behaves slightly different [17:38] e.g. my wireless led comes alive [17:39] bdmurray: would you recomment i just wait and see what happens - i am probably not knowledgeable enough to support with valuable debug information [17:41] what is the bug # to the issue that you guys are refering to [17:46] this bug looks like it can be checked off the days todo list, can someone confirm? [17:46] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-meta/+bug/281940 [17:46] Launchpad bug 281940 in ubuntu-meta "Performing a command line install is pulling in recommended dependancies" [Undecided,Incomplete] [17:53] asac: ping [17:55] danage: just ask please [17:56] contentless pings! [17:56] ;) [17:56] i have seen you have been active in some of the bugs i am encountering [17:56] in 259157 there seem to be different issues confused [18:21] i found a bug in launchpad relating to bugs :\ [18:21] https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openoffice.org/+bug/216995 [18:21] Launchpad bug 216995 in openoffice.org "No Sound when viewing a Presentation" [Undecided,New] [18:21] it claims this bug is pending_bugwatch [18:30] i now have OOo above 80% bug watched :) [18:30] shooting for 90% in the next couple days [18:31] nice [18:34] * calc streamlined his bug links to get work done more efficiently [18:34] some of my auto responses in greasemonkey keep disappearing probably due to firefox crashes i guess :\ [18:35] 5 [18:39] james_w: bug 286172 doesn't seem the same as your at upgrade one [18:39] Launchpad bug 286172 in update-manager ""at" package could not be installed during kubuntu upgrade from 8.04 to 8.10 beta" [High,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/286172 [18:39] hey bdmurray [18:40] * mvo can't beliefe that "at" fails to restart [18:40] bdmurray: I started using the lp-gm scripts, but a couple of things don't work, do they all work for you? [18:40] james_w: which couple? there are a lot of scripts to keep track of ;) [18:40] but yeah, I agree it's different [18:41] bdmurray: the karma points are always 0, though I get the team logos [18:41] bdmurray: and the tag links don't do anything [18:41] james_w: on edge? [18:41] yeah [18:42] the karma points script works here, on edge as well [18:51] 27 bugs left to green status :) [18:51] * calc notes properly upstreaming OOo bugs is a pita [18:52] have to test on 3 different versions, then determine which upstream to send it to [18:53] * calc wishes sun could just get along with novell and be more open [19:21] didrocks, ping [19:22] jwendell: pong [19:23] didrocks, why do you think vino 2.24.1 fixed bug 264315? [19:23] Launchpad bug 264315 in vino "vino-preferences port range set goes from 5000 to 49999" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/264315 [19:23] hum, let me see [19:23] oh, I tested it [19:24] I see something similar in the NEWS file [19:24] and decided to test it on my intrepid VM [19:25] didrocks, actually they're different issues [19:25] very different [19:26] jwendell: hum, I misunderstand maybe the description [19:26] but the description told that the new port was not taken into account, no? [19:27] oh [19:27] lower or higher :/ [19:27] sorry, didn't remembered that [19:27] I just tested changed it around 5900 [19:27] so, the bug is not closed… sorry :/ [19:28] jwendell: I reopen it right now [19:28] didrocks, ok [19:30] jwendell: done, bug # [19:30] bug #264315 [19:30] Launchpad bug 264315 in vino "vino-preferences port range set goes from 5000 to 49999" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/264315 [19:30] didrocks, did you confirm the bug? [19:30] are you sure? [19:38] jwendell: sorry, I was away [19:38] jwendell: yes, that's still the case [19:38] ok then [19:38] (from the bug I was first thinking that it was not taken into account IN this range) [19:38] but out of it, it was normal to not have it taken into account [19:40] I would close it as 'not a bug', but... [19:43] jwendell: hum, people now what they do if they assign such a port value, no? [19:43] s/now/know [19:44] :P [19:44] they should, at leat [19:44] least [19:45] (some hope on human being, please ^^) === bascule is now known as ba5cu13 === ba5cu13 is now known as bascule [21:11] hello [21:12] i need a help [21:13] i've reported a bug here https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/powernowd/+bug/286264 [21:13] Launchpad bug 286264 in powernowd "powernowd" [Undecided,New] [21:14] i don't knok if it's a bug, but 8.04 works properly (64-bit). 8.10 not. [21:14] 64-bit, of course [21:15] in italian ubuntu forum somebody has said that it can depend on my ati video card [21:16] cerrigno - you say it works if you select 'safe graphics mode', which means that the powernowd thing is probably a red herring [21:16] now i'm trying to download 32-bit version of last beta. [21:17] what is more likely is that the Xserver is failing for some reason and that is just the message you see [21:17] when you boot, try switching to a console with CTRL+ALT+F1. [21:17] if that is successful, have a look at your /var/log/Xorg.0.log [21:18] mmm in other words (i'm not so pratic): i just try to boot pressing ctrl alt f1 while it is loading ubuntu? [21:20] use CTRL+ALT+F1 when it appears to stop booting [21:21] ok [21:22] because, after i see ubuntu logo with orange bar below, it turns to black screen with white text. when it turns to black screen with white text i press ctrl alt f1. it should start anyway? [21:24] however, even if it is not a bug, it's very strange that on 8.04 there is not this problem [21:26] don't you think it? [21:29] chrisccoulson [21:38] chrisccoulson: now, the notebook is blocked on "Loading, please wait..." [21:38] after my CTRL + ALT + F1 press [21:38] it's a long process? [21:41] ideas? [21:45] now i try with 32bit package. [21:45] anybody has other ideas? [21:48] ? [22:06] question: does anyone have any clues about which source package should be assigned to this bug? [22:06] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/253546 [22:06] Launchpad bug 253546 in ubuntu-meta "Use intuitive popup scrollbars" [Wishlist,New] [22:10] azimout: It possibly shouldn't be a bug report but ubuntu-meta seems like a fine location since there is one. [22:11] fine [22:28] quick question: what's the difference between packages linux-source and linux-ports-source? [22:28] their description seems the same [22:29] and linux-ports-source depends on linux-ports-source-2.6.25 [22:29] are these packages obsolete? [22:32] bdmurray: i think graphing some of the information from +upstreamreport might be useful as well [22:32] bdmurray: currently if you are working on filing bugs upstream it doesn't really show up on the graph so it might seem as nothing is getting done [22:32] calc: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/Specs/PackageStatusPages/Feedback [22:32] ah ok :) [22:33] i see its already on the list :) [22:33] wouldn't the bugs forwarded upstream number increase? [22:34] hmm? [22:34] in the bug info part on the lhs [22:34] well yes, but the graph doesn't split out the difference between triaged - ubuntu bugs, pending_bugwatch, and upstream [22:35] which is the bit that i think would be of some use, if it didn't make the graph unreadable [22:35] got it [22:35] i'll update that line item on the feedback [22:35] thanks [22:35] at that point you can pretty much track all useful bug changes (i think?) [22:36]