| Celtiore | hi | 08:18 |
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| Teiana | is there a channel dedicated to ubuntu mobile help or this one is suitable ? i need help once more :) | 10:41 |
| persia | Teiana, It's help + development. Anything Mobile related is fine. We don't know everything, and if it's not Mobile specific, we might send you to more general Ubuntu channels. | 10:48 |
| Teiana | it is mobile specific :) | 10:58 |
| Teiana | thanks for the answer persia | 10:58 |
| Teiana | so, here i go | 10:58 |
| Teiana | does ubuntu mobile support the acer aspire one internal card readers (there is 2) | 10:59 |
| persia | I'm going to go with a Maybe on that one :) | 10:59 |
| persia | Try one of the intrepid live images (URLs in the /topic) and see. Just boot off a USB key : it won't affect your machine. | 11:00 |
| Teiana | i'm already on intrepid image :) | 11:00 |
| Teiana | i AM intrepid ;) | 11:00 |
| * Teiana giggles | 11:01 | |
| persia | OK. Do the card readers work? | 11:01 |
| Teiana | (btw, i installed the intrepid, this machine is suited to be affected) | 11:01 |
| Teiana | no automount reaction | 11:02 |
| persia | Hmm. -mid or -mobile? | 11:02 |
| Teiana | and i don't know where to search to know how is called the card reader | 11:02 |
| Teiana | mobile | 11:02 |
| persia | OK. Do they show up in lspci or lsusb? | 11:02 |
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| Teiana | no explicit mention of card reader, just lot of pci brider, smbus, isa bride, ide interface (a card is actually present in the reader) | 11:04 |
| Teiana | s/brider/bridge | 11:04 |
| Teiana | model is acer aspirone A110 (ZG5) | 11:04 |
| persia | Hm.. The other thing to check is dmesg, but from your description so far, I think they don't work. | 11:05 |
| Teiana | buhuhuh :( | 11:06 |
| Teiana | huho | 11:08 |
| Teiana | just found a good bunch of Buffer I/O error on device sr0 :s | 11:08 |
| Teiana | according to dmesg | 11:08 |
| persia | That's not good. Sounds like you have two bugs to file, instead of just one. | 11:08 |
| Teiana | sr0 is the ssd drive isn't it ? | 11:09 |
| Teiana | or could it be an external cdrom drive on usb? | 11:10 |
| Teiana | in the second case, that's not a bug, that cdrom drive is "tired" and have difficulties reading cdrom | 11:10 |
| persia | I actually don't know what /dev/sr* is. I usually see things as /dev/sd* or /dev/mmc* | 11:11 |
| Teiana | lets tail that dmesg and plug that drive :) | 11:11 |
| Teiana | i confirm, it is that damn cdrom drive who is called sr0 | 11:12 |
| Teiana | so let's forgot that buffier I/O error, i think | 11:13 |
| persia | !ohmy | 11:13 |
| ubottu | Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly. | 11:13 |
| Teiana | sorry | 11:13 |
| persia | Then it's back to one bug. File the output of lsusb -v and lspci -vvnn to a bug, and report that the card reader isn't working. | 11:14 |
| Teiana | ok :) | 11:14 |
| persia | Oh, and file the bug against the "linux" package. | 11:16 |
| Teiana | the one about ubuntu mobile being uninstalled when i wanted to uninstall the idontknowanymorethepackagename cd burned apps ? | 11:17 |
| persia | No, that's not a bug. | 11:17 |
| persia | Uninstalling "ubuntu-mobile" shouldn't break your system, unless you let it uninstall lots of other related stuff. | 11:17 |
| Teiana | sorry to not understand what you'r talking about that linux package | 11:18 |
| persia | However, to have an Ubuntu Mobile system, you need to have ubuntu-mobile installed. Lots of people run custom systems, but there's no guarantee that upgrades work smoothly between releases. | 11:18 |
| Teiana | ok | 11:18 |
| persia | When you file the bug about the card reader not working. | 11:18 |
| Teiana | ha, ok, i see | 11:19 |
| Teiana | bug category :) | 11:19 |
| Teiana | time to eat soon, thanks again for the help | 11:20 |
| persia | No problem. | 11:21 |
| Teiana | could it be a missing option at the kernel compile time ? | 11:21 |
| persia | That, or a missing driver. I think most of the broad types of readers are supported : at least two of the ones in front of me work. | 11:22 |
| persia | But I don't do anything other than insert memory cards. | 11:22 |
| Teiana | :) | 11:25 |
| Teiana | time to eat | 11:25 |
| Teiana | nomnomnomnom | 11:26 |
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| teiana_afk | back | 12:10 |
| teiana_afk | and with a surprise Oo | 12:10 |
| teiana_afk | persia : i forgot to put the charger on the acer, so it shuted down due to battery power lack, and when powering it up again, tada! my sd card is readed | 12:11 |
| persia | teiana_afk, In that case, you don't need to file a bug :) | 12:12 |
| persia | Strange that it needs a power event though. Probably worth fiddling with : I suspect there's some way to make it work better. | 12:12 |
| teiana_afk | so it may be due to suspending it who desactivate the reader ? i have the same behavior on another computer, a notebook, standart, 15 inch screen and so one, asap you suspend it, the card reader is unusable until reboot | 12:13 |
| persia | Yeah, it would be exactly the same problem. The suspect/resume isn't sending the right wakeup signal. You do want to report that then, as it may be possible to fix. | 12:14 |
| teiana_afk | wich log do you need? | 12:14 |
| persia | Probably just either lspci -vvnn or lsusb -v depending on how the device is connected, and a clear description of the problem. | 12:15 |
| teiana_afk | ok :) | 12:15 |
| teiana_afk | will be a pleasure to do | 12:15 |
| teiana_afk | submission done :) | 12:45 |
| persia | Thanks. Intrepid is so close to release that I don't really expect it to be included, but perhaps for the next release. | 12:46 |
| teiana_afk | no problem, this is not, at my eyes, a critical bug | 12:54 |
| persia | Well, you have a device that doesn't need it. I have one device that has only 128MB SSD, and uses an SD card for real storage. If I had the bug on that device, I'd be extremely frustrated. (I don't actually run Ubuntu on that device though, so it's a false comparison). | 12:56 |
| teiana_afk | as this bug occurs also on this other computer of mine, who is running windows | 12:56 |
| persia | Heh. That might be a hardware problem then, rather than just a kernel issue. | 12:56 |
| teiana_afk | you'r true :) | 12:56 |
| teiana_afk | i may edit my bug and add that fact ? | 12:56 |
| persia | You certainly could, but in case it's actually software problem rather than a hardware problem I wouldn't. Be better to have a kernel developer look at it. | 12:57 |
| teiana_afk | but ubuntu mobile != ubuntu mid ? | 12:57 |
| persia | Maybe there's a way to make it work : might just be not suspending that device (making suspend use batter power a little faster). | 12:57 |
| persia | Nope. Two different flavours. Two different operating environments. | 12:58 |
| persia | They're probably about as similar as Ubuntu Desktop and Xubuntu Desktop. | 12:58 |
| teiana_afk | ok :) | 12:58 |
| teiana_afk | i wished to change the ubuntu logo during the pre X11 loading stage, but i'm not sure if the howto i found about usplash are the way to change it | 13:01 |
| teiana_afk | do u have an idea ? | 13:01 |
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| persia | No, but I can tell you that looking at various other usplash-theme packages is probably the best route to an answer. | 13:02 |
| Teiana | thanks :) | 13:02 |
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| Teiana | now i'm impressed! | 13:29 |
| Teiana | even my 3G usb dongle work! | 13:29 |
| Teiana | THANKS! | 13:29 |
| Teiana | (excepted a little tcp configuration problem :p) | 13:31 |
| amitk | ogra: do you know of other mobile devices that use atheros chips for wifi? | 13:38 |
| ogra | amitk, eeePC | 13:38 |
| amitk | ogra: they seem to work with ath5k :-/ and even happen to have the same pci id. So we can't comment out that pci id. | 13:39 |
| amitk | ogra: do they use the -mobile image? | 13:39 |
| amitk | or stock ubuntu? | 13:39 |
| persia | amitk, No reason they shouldn't use the -mobile image, but they might use stock. Switching between the two is trivial post-install. | 13:40 |
| ogra | amitk, many do and i think one even commented on the bug seeing the same issues | 13:40 |
| amitk | we are in a rock-and-hard-place situation. madwifi works for some and ath5k for others for same pci id :-/ | 13:42 |
| ogra | yeah | 13:42 |
| amitk | ogra: have you already tried lbm on mobile images? | 13:43 |
| amitk | tim mentioned he had uploaded a slightly more uptodate ath5k | 13:43 |
| ogra | not yet | 13:43 |
| ogra | would that be pulled in by meta ? | 13:44 |
| ogra | or do i need to get it manually ? | 13:44 |
| ogra | i'm just writing todays image to USB, i can give you more info within the next 30min | 13:45 |
| ogra | but the ML shows that many people seem to have probs with ath5k | 13:45 |
| amitk | ogra: not by meta, needs to be done manually | 13:45 |
| ogra | ok | 13:46 |
| * amitk updates his samsung | 13:48 | |
| ogra | amitk, ok, seeing todays image ath5k is even loaded *after* ath_pci ... modprobe -r ath_pci kills all networking though | 13:57 |
| amitk | ogra: try lbm | 14:00 |
| ogra | hard to do without network | 14:00 |
| ogra | let me do an install first :) | 14:00 |
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| ogra | asac, any objections to have a package for drag and grab in jaunty ? | 14:04 |
| ogra | that way i could use normal firefox in -mobile | 14:04 |
| ogra | with drag-n-grab preinstalled in the image | 14:05 |
| asac | ogra: open a wishlist bug against firefox-extensions project in launchpad. someone will package it ;) | 14:17 |
| asac | ogra: you dont want to use fennec? | 14:18 |
| ogra | asac, well, worst case i'd do it myself ... i really love it on my laptop | 14:18 |
| asac | ogra: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/firefox-extensions/+filebug | 14:18 |
| asac | ogra: no. please follow that procedure. we have a more or less good extension community so this should happen quite reasonably | 14:19 |
| ogra | the fennec version i have tried didnt convince me yet, depends where its at in jaunty | 14:19 |
| asac | ogra: if you want to package it, please use our branch mechansims | 14:19 |
| ogra | indeed | 14:19 |
| asac | ogra: which version did you try? | 14:19 |
| asac | ogra: we have a page here: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Firefox3Extensions | 14:19 |
| ogra | knows tharer are policies for extension packaging ... wouldnt do it without that | 14:19 |
| asac | usually we ask users to fill out that table for their extension so we can "auto" package it ;) but in your case we can make an exception | 14:20 |
| asac | :) | 14:20 |
| ogra | asac, about two months ago on the n800 ... not sure what version that was | 14:20 |
| asac | ogra: ok. try the lastest in fta archive. | 14:20 |
| asac | its quite nice ... though not really feature complete | 14:20 |
| ogra | but it put the url bar *into* the pacge | 14:20 |
| ogra | *page | 14:20 |
| asac | https://edge.launchpad.net/~fta/+archive | 14:20 |
| ogra | so it scrolled away and you had to scroll to the top to even type in an url | 14:20 |
| asac | ogra: doesnt do that anymore ... at lesat the versoin i used here | 14:21 |
| ogra | and there were various other usability things i found really annoying | 14:21 |
| ogra | but i'll try the new one | 14:22 |
| asac | ogra: just install the package and lets talk about that. i would love to forward reasonable suggestions | 14:22 |
| ogra | will do, i'm currently to busy with image testing | 14:22 |
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| amitk | ogra: why does the q1's screen periodically come on by itself when it is idle? | 16:13 |
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| ogra | amitk, no idea why the bug was closed, there was one open for compiz/gnome-screensaver that i also still see on my laptop | 16:18 |
| amitk | ogra: have a bug #? | 16:19 |
| ogra | no, i cant seem to find it, i always accessed it from the critical bugs list for intrepid where it doesnt show up anymore | 16:21 |
| ogra | amitk, its bug 278112 | 16:38 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 278112 in xorg-server "Screensaver doesn't start" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/278112 | 16:38 |
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| Teiana | bug 1 | 17:14 |
| ubottu | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1 (Won't display info) | 17:14 |
| Teiana | :) | 17:14 |
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| cypherdelic | lol in wine for every solved bug came at least one new :D | 18:38 |
| cypherdelic | sry wrg ch | 18:38 |
| Exaltia | np :) | 18:38 |
| juliux | hey ogra what should i do with all the ubuntu-mobile marketing stuff? | 18:55 |
| ogra | juliux, papermache ? | 18:58 |
| ogra | put it op on booths indeed :) | 18:58 |
| juliux | ogra: the next one is cebit;) | 19:04 |
| juliux | and it is realy heavy | 19:04 |
| juliux | now i know why you give it me;) | 19:04 |
| ogra | susie agrees, she tried to lift it from the trunk :) | 19:05 |
| juliux | hehe | 19:05 |
| ogra | sorry, i thought it would be helpful for you in some way | 19:05 |
| juliux | i will write kate that the stuff is now in my basement so perhaps canonical has a use for it a cebit;) | 19:05 |
| ogra | likely | 19:06 |
| ogra | unless they are printing new ones for UNR | 19:06 |
| juliux | UNR? | 19:06 |
| ogra | but i wouldnt think so | 19:06 |
| ogra | ubuntu-netbook-remix | 19:06 |
| juliux | i don't think they will do new ubuntu hardy flyer | 19:06 |
| ogra | there wont be an intrepid UNR | 19:06 |
| juliux | ah ok | 19:07 |
| ogra | UNR is supposed to be based off the LTS release | 19:07 |
| ogra | so the fylers will likely be still valid for cebit | 19:07 |
| juliux | good | 19:08 |
| ogra | juliux, btw, what was that about tablet support recently ? | 19:10 |
| ogra | you moaned but didnt answer later | 19:10 |
| juliux | ogra: with the default xorg.conf from interpid my tablet is not working | 19:10 |
| ogra | the default xorg.conf of intrepid should be ampty | 19:10 |
| ogra | *empty | 19:10 |
| juliux | also if i uncomment all the tabletpc sections in the xorg.conf the tablet is not working | 19:10 |
| juliux | my one was not empty, i made an upgrade from hardy | 19:11 |
| ogra | ah | 19:11 |
| juliux | and the xorg.conf at hardy was working fine | 19:11 |
| ogra | try moving it away | 19:11 |
| juliux | i search for a working one at launchpad;) | 19:11 |
| juliux | and i still have the brigthness bug | 19:11 |
| ogra | hal handles input devices in ntrepid | 19:11 |
| juliux | it takes a long long time after waking up from suspend until the brigthness keys are working | 19:12 |
| ogra | (you can override it in xorg.conf, but should always try the default first) | 19:12 |
| juliux | i will try it with an empty xorg.conf | 19:12 |
| ogra | try removing hotkey-setup, its likely interfering with hal | 19:12 |
| ogra | i know mdz recently worked on brightness key stuff for ibm lappies | 19:14 |
| juliux | ok | 19:17 |
| ian_brasil__ | not a mobile question as such but the gconf gtk_theme is set to Human-Clearlooks but there is no entry on /usr/share/themes or .themes for this | 19:24 |
| ian_brasil__ | maybe i will ask in ubuntu-art | 19:36 |
| juliux | ogra: should i open bug reports about bugs in my tablet or should i wait after intrepid released? | 19:58 |
| juliux | ogra: clearing the xorg.conf is not working;) | 20:05 |
| ogra | juliux, see bug 282203 | 20:47 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 282203 in wacom-tools "Wacom tablet hotplug is no longer enabled by default" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/282203 | 20:47 |
| juliux | ogra: btw removing hotkey-setup doesn't helps | 20:52 |
| juliux | ogra: i am looking realy forward to test with you tablet pc support on the next development cycle | 20:56 |
| juliux | ogra: bug 282203 doesn't helps here i still need a special xorg.conf | 21:01 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 282203 in wacom-tools "Wacom tablet hotplug is no longer enabled by default" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/282203 | 21:01 |
| ogra | juliux, please add your info to the bug | 21:01 |
| juliux | ogra: i will do | 21:01 |
| ogra | slangasek refuses to let the hal way in so he needs info if xorg.conf works | 21:02 |
| juliux | ogra: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/wacom-tools/+bug/282203/comments/19 | 21:04 |
| juliux | there is also my xorg.conf | 21:04 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 282203 in wacom-tools "Wacom tablet hotplug is no longer enabled by default" [Medium,Triaged] | 21:04 |
| ogra | juliux, does it work with that xorg.conf (and did it in hardy as well with the same file ?) | 21:05 |
| juliux | ogra: it was not working with my old xorg.conf from hardy that one is a new on i found at the web | 21:05 |
| ogra | aha | 21:05 |
| ogra | please note that the hardy one didnt work and you had to create a new one for intrepid | 21:06 |
| ogra | thats very important | 21:06 |
| juliux | added | 21:07 |
| ogra | thanks :) | 21:08 |
| juliux | ogra: i found somebody how will test it with a x61 tablet | 21:19 |
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