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stgraberok, testcases change have been sent to RT, let's hope a sysadmin will apply it first thing tomorrow00:31
persiastgraber, Mobile is i386.  MID is lpia.  There's only one image available for each anyway.00:47
persiaOh, you already said that :)00:48
charlie-tcaOther than changing a couple of settings, it looks like the Xubuntu upgrade to 8.10 is working.02:05
davmor2Morning Everybody08:18
slangasekubuntu desktop images, right-sized and updated 'n' stuff, should be posting in the next half hour or so08:56
davmor2\o/08:57
slangasek<grump> or not, the desktop image is still oversized09:06
* slangasek drops a langpack and respins09:06
nandhey!09:35
nandDo you have an idea of the status of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/removing-old-kernels ? (uninstall old kernels, remove old grub entries)09:36
nandI'd like to update the latest ideas marked "in development" in brainstorm, and I was unable to see if this one is done or not...09:36
nandhrm, nm, "Last-good-boot is implemented fully in Intrepid/8.10 now."09:38
davmor2nand: system cleaner does it for you09:41
nanddavmor2: thanks for the info!09:42
nandAnd a last one : https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/encrypted-private-directories : Is the encrypted ~/Private directory gonna be default, or is it going to be configurable? I haven't found any indication in the last live iso09:44
persiaIt's configurable, but ubiquity doesn't have an interface to generate it on install.  The option is presented on the alternate CDs.09:45
nandOk, and is that configurable after the install?09:48
* persia looks at what it does09:49
persiaYes, but non-trvially, from what I see.  Looks like one installs ecryptfs-utils, sets some environment variables, and runs ecryptfs-setup-private.  I'm guessing that ecryptfs-setup-private has a better front end post-install than in the installer.09:51
nandokay, so that's feasible, but not for the common user. Thanks a lot for the infos!09:52
persiaThere's probably a better way : I'm reconstructing from looking at installer internals, rather than from any idea how it's supposed to work.09:53
* nand will need to add the "partially implemented" status in UB09:53
persianand, You'd probably do better to check with kirkland (likely in #ubuntu-server) about it : there might be a nice document somewhere making it easy for endusers.09:54
nandpersia: ok thanks for the pointer!09:55
davmor2persia, nand: he did a blog post on it09:55
nanddavmor2: eh, thanks! /me looks for it09:56
nandhttp://dustinkirkland.wordpress.com/2008/10/03/whats-in-my-encrypted-private-directory/09:58
nandsimple... but unfortunately not for common users :(09:59
kryptomorfwhen trying to install, gdm crashes, with an "Ubuntu is running in low graphics mode" error. Can anybody help me with this?10:00
kryptomorfwhen installing 8.10, that is10:02
persiakryptomorf, Which graphics card?10:02
kryptomorfim not sure, some onboard acer card10:08
kryptomorflspci says: Silicon Integrated Systems?10:09
persiaHrm.  someone else reported something like that yesterday.  You might search launchpad for a bug.  Maybe it has a workaround.10:09
kryptomorfyes well, I can't seem to find anything appropriate, but I'll keep looking..10:20
davmor2heno: Morning10:36
henomorning davmor210:36
henoI see we have some CDs10:36
henothere is still a fairly long milestoned bug list though10:37
davmor2I spoke to slangasek this morning he is basically just cleaning up the images so they aren't over sized and then respining them.  I've started with netboot but it isn't on the tracker at the moment10:39
davmor2I think pitti has taken over now though so he can sleep :)10:39
davmor2heno: can you put mini.iso on the tracker or should I speak to pitti?10:40
henodavmor2: I'll get it10:41
davmor2heno: Thanks :)10:42
persiastgraber, How can I find the mobile stuff on iso.qa.ubuntu.com ?10:45
henopersia: are you sure the addition has landed? I don't see the mobile cases in the admin interface either10:57
henowe may still be waiting for a sysadmin to push the change (typically Ng does that)10:57
persiaheno, I don't.  Yesterday stgraber confirmed that all the required information was present.10:58
persiaAh.  OK.  Any idea when that might happen?10:58
henopersia: can you check with Ng? stgraber probably won't be around for a few hours10:59
persiaOK.10:59
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persiaWord on the updates for today is "soon".11:12
persiaHmm.  http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/build/ubuntumobile/all works now, but it says "We are not testing".11:15
davmor2persia: it needs an admin to add the relevant tests :)11:16
persiaOK.  Then "soon" :)11:17
davmor2heno: ^^11:17
* persia still doesn't see "Ubuntu MID", but such is life, and it doesn't matter that much anyway11:17
* heno looks11:18
persiaheno, While you're at it, Mythbuntu is the same, so I suppose it needs the same treatment.11:19
henopersia: I can add them now. what are the build numbers?11:19
persiabuild numbers?11:19
henoyep, see it11:19
henoimage number, like 20081021.1, say11:20
persiaDo you mean which image is the RC candidate?11:20
persiaI'll go find out :)11:20
henoright11:20
stgrabermorning12:07
persiaGood morning stgraber.12:07
davmor2stgraber: morning dude what time is it there?12:07
stgraber7am12:08
persiaheno, Sorry for the delay.  Ubuntu Mobile RC candidate is 20081021.12:37
persiastgraber, Where should the cases for the Ubuntu MID flavour go?12:38
henopersia: updating12:39
persiaheno, Thanks.12:40
henopersia: I can add MID too now - same build #?12:40
persiaheno, No, there should be a 20081021.1 coming out soon, which would be better.12:41
henook, I'll just add that then12:41
persiaheno, Also, I don't see MID in the filter list?  Where will it go?12:41
henohm, not sure ;)12:42
henostgraber: ^ ?12:42
* heno afk12:42
persiaIt seems to have dropped into Ubuntu Mobile for some reason.12:42
persiastgraber, When you get a chance, could you pull that out?  They are different flavours, with different DEs, and are both likely to go multiarch for Jaunty.12:43
persiaNot critical for this test cycle, just because there aren't that many testers or test cases, but it ought be sorted at some point.12:43
persiaAlso, I can't seem to download the Ubuntu Mobile image from the tracker, although it is available on cdimage, and shows up.  Is there something else that needs doing?12:45
davmor2morning cgregan12:59
davmor2heno: netboot done13:00
cgreganmornong13:01
cgregans/o/i13:01
davmor2:D13:01
davmor2Wake up Dude13:01
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stgraberpersia: Ubuntu Mobile, both are there13:27
persiastgraber, Can they be separated in the future?  They are less similar than Ubuntu Desktop and Xubuntu Desktop.13:28
stgraberI didn't want to add two filters as they both only had one entry and I didn't want to add them to the Ubuntu category either as there would have been lost in the middle of all the desktop,alternate,server and dvd images13:28
persiaYou've convinced me.13:29
persiaFor Jaunty, there are plans to make both of those work i386, amd64, and lpia, and probably at least one more flavour (Kubuntu-mobile), maybe two.  Would "Mobile" be a sensible filter for all of those, or do you think they belong with Ubuntu and Kubuntu?13:30
aramorning all :-)13:38
henomorning ara!13:39
arahey heno :-)13:39
araIs the ubuntu alternate i386 worth testing? I see that desktop is rebuilding and I don't know if the are going to rebuild alternate any time soon13:47
henoI think the desktops are just being redone to fix over-size, so alternates should be ok13:49
henoara: ^13:49
araheno: thanks :-) I will test some of the installations, at least in vm, while doing some other stuff13:50
* heno starts xubuntu 64-bit desktop13:59
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* davmor2 download mobile14:02
persiadavmor2, From cdimage directly, or from the tracker?14:05
davmor2persia: trackers link should be the one on cdimage14:06
persiadavmor2, Right.  Tracker link wasn't working for me, which is why I asked : I might be doing it wrong.14:06
davmor2persia: no it's not linking to anything14:07
persiadavmor2, Do you know if that is something easy to change, or if it requires a DB update?14:08
davmor2No idea I have very little to do with that side of the tracker speak to stgraber, heno etc14:10
liwiso testing has started, y es?14:10
davmor2liw: Yeap join the fun Dude14:10
henoliw: y es :)14:10
henonew desktop images are up too, no longer over-sized14:13
stgraberpersia: I didn't fix the download link as that requires code update in the magic that guess the URL from an image on the tracker14:13
persiastgraber, Because the path is funny?14:15
stgraberpersia: well, because cdimage is funny14:19
stgraberpersia: I'm asking for a .manifest file at the root of cdimage for hmm at least 3 releases but still don't have it14:19
persiastgraber, What would the .manifest contain?14:19
stgraberpath to the file, size and md5 would be great14:20
stgraberI have a LP bug for that somewhere14:20
stgraberbug 14894414:21
* pedro_ rsyncing the desktop image14:21
Koonstgraber: would it be possible to add the "Tomcat server" task test scenario to the server testcases on iso.qa.ubuntu.com ?14:22
* davmor2 rsync's images14:22
Koonhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Cases/ServerInstall#tomcat-server14:23
stgraberhmm, we same to have a problem there, it was supposed to be added14:24
stgraber*seem14:24
* pedro_ testing the i386 desktop image14:28
stgraberKoon: fixed14:33
davmor2heno: I got the latest ubuntu's synced now are they safe to test?14:33
* heno takes some Kubuntu 64-bit desktop tests14:33
henodavmor2: AFAIK, yes. they were only being fixed for size issues14:34
davmor2cool I'll start wubi and m-a tests then :)14:34
Koonstgraber: cool, thanks !14:34
stgraberI take Ubuntu Alternate 32bit, LTSP and probably some other testcases14:36
* ara takes alternate i38614:42
* heno takes kub-64 alt oem14:43
* ara installs in Spanish, to check localization 14:43
davmor2persia: failing to install on my acer14:54
persiadavmor2, Excellent!  How?14:55
davmor2persia: locks up on detecting hardware.  I'm going to give my usb drive a clean and try again in a minute14:56
persiadavmor2, Fails to boot live, or fails to boot post-install?14:56
davmor2fails to boot live14:56
henodavmor2: do other images work on the acer?14:57
persiaAlso, is this behaviour different than deskop?14:57
davmor2heno: unr is on it now14:57
persiadavmor2, That's not a useful comparison, as this would be a kernel/HAL/udev sort of thing.14:57
henokryptomorf mentioned a problem on an acer as well14:57
davmor2persia: Like I say I'm going to give the drive a clean and try again incase of corruption14:58
persiaI believe there's something odd about intrepid's SiS video driver, as I've heard a few reports.  Does this Acer also use that driver?14:58
davmor2persia: it's not sis it's intel14:59
persiaThen it's a different issue.14:59
davmor2might be wifi14:59
* davmor2 dounle checks his hardware15:00
davmor2s/n/b15:00
davmor2persia: it's an intel corp Mobile 945GME Express Integrated Gfx Controller15:01
davmor2heno: if you get chance at all I would appreciate a second on netboot edubuntu install.15:10
henodavmor2: ok, will do15:10
persiadavmor2, Definitely a different issue then.15:13
luisbg_I've heard there is some fun RC testing around here15:13
luisbg_I came to watch it myself :)15:13
* davmor2 hits luisbg_ with his big hammer and points out there are no spectators here ;)15:14
davmor2luisbg_: Join the party Dude :)15:15
charlie-tcaanyone mind if I test Xubuntu livecd?15:15
davmor2help yourself charlie-tca15:16
davmor2persia: what would the boot option be for verbose on mobile?15:20
davmor2I might find out where it's locking up that way15:20
persiaSame as anything else.  I think it's noquiet, but I'm not 100% sure.15:21
davmor2persia: ta I'll try it15:21
luisbg_davmor2, :)15:22
luisbg_anyone up to testing the ubuntu studio install cd?15:22
* pedro_ doing desktop oem15:23
davmor2that's xp and vista up oh and look at that cd's have just finished syncing too :)15:25
henodavmor2: re bug 276317 - edubuntu-desktop depends on ubuntu-desktop, which in turn only recommends OOo and FF, so I guess it's expected15:28
henoogra: is that correct? OOo and FF are excluded from netboot installs of Edubuntu15:29
stgraberslangasek: LTSP failed15:29
stgraber(and we know why)15:30
davmor2heno: It's missing other stuff too which I'm guessing are only recommends.15:30
davmor2persia: yay up and running15:30
ograheno, ?15:30
ograheno, edubuntu-desktop is just an addon requiring ubuntu-desktop15:30
stgraberogra: it's still listed on the netboot15:31
persiadavmor2, What changed?15:31
ograstgraber, though it might need a special caes for xubuntu :/15:31
ograstgraber, yes, but edubuntu-desktop should depend on ubuntu-desktop in any case (at least it did when i maintained it, not sure who took it now)15:31
henoogra: right, we were just wondering if the new behaviour with netboot was as expected. Installs fine, but leaves out OO and FF15:32
ograweird15:32
davmor2persia: I cleaned the usb drive by using sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb and then tried it again15:32
stgraberogra: yeah, the d-i component should only set the repository to main+restricted if that's Ubuntu and all 4 if that's anything else15:32
henoit's fine, u-desktop only _recommends_ OO and FF15:32
stgraberogra: or if possible just check the sources.list we have on the install target15:32
persiadavmor2, OK.  I thought you'd found a bug.15:32
ograstgraber, ubuntu or kubuntu15:32
davmor2ogra: leaves out loadsa canonical stuff too.  No jockey etc15:33
ograstgraber, ugh, that sounds like a big patch15:33
ogradavmor2, i havent touched edubuntu since hardy i'm not sure who takes care now15:33
ograit should depends on ubuntu-desktop as it did before15:34
stgraberogra: if [ -n `cat /target/etc/apt/sources.list | grep -v ^# | grep universe` ]; ?15:34
davmor2ogra: it pulls in all the generic gnome stuff just not the other stuff as far as I can see15:34
stgraberogra: (haven't tried it)15:34
ograstgraber, yeah, could work15:35
ogradavmor2, Depends: ubuntu-desktop15:35
davmor2persia: no wifi15:35
ograthats what i see for the edubuntu-desktop package15:36
ograthat should pull in all ubuntu-desktop deps15:36
stgraberogra: or just a [ -d /cdrom/dists/intrepid/universe ]15:36
stgraberogra: this one is probably more reliable15:36
ograyeah15:36
ograand smaller :)15:36
davmor2persia: no brightness control15:37
persiabug #28435415:38
persiaDunno about brightness.  ogra?15:38
stgraberogra: can you do that fix ? I have a demo box to setup by the end of the day + some meetings. If you can't I'm happy to do it tonight after work.15:38
ograpersia, what image ?15:38
persiamobile.15:38
ograstgraber, later today, yes15:38
ograpersia, gnome-power-manager15:39
stgraberslangasek: ^ if we have that fix today, will you rebuild the alternate images for it ? (and possible some other bugs, who knows)15:39
persiaogra, Is there already a bug?15:39
ograno idea what you guys are testing there, works on the Q1 here15:39
ogranot that i know of15:39
ogranote that brightness wont work on VMs15:39
davmor2ogra: acer aspire one a11015:39
ogradid you try normal ubuntu on it already ?15:40
ograit shouldnt differ at all15:40
ograhat would be a generic gpm bug15:40
ograor hal15:40
davmor2no I had unr on it15:40
ograi suspect gpm, hal or even kernel acpi15:41
ograbut that would need confirmation with std ubuntu15:41
ogramobile doesn nothing special about that parts15:41
davmor2ogra I'll try it after15:41
henoara: if you have images with multiple drives there, and/or a USB CD-ROM bug 282037 could use some testing; the vesa bug is 24626915:57
araheno: ok, thanks15:58
affluxAm I the only one having issues with the images in kvm? It seems to freeze randomly.16:00
* ara reboots16:00
affluxlast time I wasn't even able to change the VT because the display went mad when I did this, before I was able to read the syslog and the process list. They always got stuck with no appaerent reason.16:01
* pedro_ starts kubuntu i38616:01
affluxSometimes while installing packages, sometimes while loading some installer components.16:01
henoafflux: have you tried using the -vnc option?16:22
henoThat's working fine for me here - it might be a display issue16:22
affluxnot yet. It's currently hanging at 2% of hardware detection in virtualbox16:22
affluxI fear it's an issue with my system..16:23
henoI did have similar issues when I tried doing multiple installs to the same disk image - I assume it's not that :)16:24
affluxyou mean simultaneous? no, that's not it ;)16:25
henoyes it was a head->desk moment for me ;)16:31
schwukheno: lol16:32
schwukafflux: intrepid or hardy (on the host)?16:33
* ara takes xubuntu desktop 32bits16:36
affluxintrepid16:36
affluxschwuk: ^16:37
davmor2persia: ogra: still no working wifi even though it says the atheros driver is enabled16:38
schwukafflux: oh well. I had similar symptoms with kvm under hardy, but they went away with Intrepid.16:39
ogradavmor2, yes, thats bug 28435416:39
ogradavmor2, if you install linux-backports-modules it should work16:39
davmor2okay16:39
ograi'm pusing for a kernel update before rleease with that ath5k fix16:39
ogra*pushing even16:39
affluxschwuk: hmm16:42
affluxI'll maybe try on a different machine (hardy) in the next few days, or rather around weekend.16:43
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ograstgraber, is there a bug open for the ltsp buildfailure ?17:31
* ara -> lunch17:41
ograstgraber, http://paste.ubuntu.com/60602/ i'm still waiting for a confirmation from cody-sommerville that the dir actually exists though18:15
stgraberogra: I haven't opened a bug report, I'll do it if nobody did18:20
ograif we need one at least18:20
ograthe fix should work i guess, but cody doesnt answer18:20
ograi want to first make sure the dir actually is present on xubuntu CDs18:20
stgraberogra: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/daily/current/intrepid-alternate-amd64.list18:21
stgraberogra: /dists/intrepid/universe/binary-amd64/Release18:22
* pedro_ doing kubuntu alt i38618:22
ograstgraber, perfect, thanks18:23
henoNOTICE: We are re-spinning alternates to fix LTSP18:29
ograstgraber, can you do the tests of it, i promised to track another compiz bug which i need to turn to18:30
stgraberogra: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ltsp/+bug/28709818:30
ubot5`Launchpad bug 287098 in ltsp "LTSP fails to install from Ubuntu Alternate" [Undecided,New]18:30
ogragah18:30
ograalready uploaded, need to remember to close that manually :)18:31
stgraberogra: I just filed the bug so you can close it18:31
stgraber:)18:31
stgrabernp, that's just so we can also track it on the ISO tracker18:31
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mvotea!18:35
mvosbeattie: could you re-run your massive upgrade test please? from what I can see from the logs at 18th the problems should be all(?) fixed now18:49
sbeattiemvo: sure.18:50
mvothanks!18:50
henomvo, sbeattie: nice work :)18:53
davmor2ogra: persia: bloody weird I moved the brightness by using the keys and now it seems to think it exists?19:03
ograwow19:03
slangasekquick fyi, we have another round of Ubuntu desktop/alternate rebuilds coming down the pipe, folks; we've got enough stacked in the queue that we want to get more of this in pre-RC instead of post-RC19:04
slangasekour goal is to have the packages published and rolled into the new images in ~3h - thank you for your perseverance :)19:04
davmor2slangasek: that'll be tomorrow's testing then :)  What images are left that are safe to test then?19:05
slangasekxubuntu desktop is fair game; mythbuntu and ubuntustudio will probably be respun because they have quite a few out-of-date packages built up, but it would be helpful if someone could smoke-test those first19:07
davmor2I bag xubuntu tonight then and go to bed anyone want the others?19:10
stgraberdavmor2: where's dl-iso now ?19:29
davmor2qa tools two ticks19:30
davmor2stgraber: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Isoscript19:31
stgraberthat's the page I couldn't find :) thanks19:33
henoI can smoke test studio19:38
stgraberI'm downloading every images I'll try tonight so that should take less time to rsync them afterwards19:44
henoI guess Edubuntu add-on is safe to test as well19:45
cr3heno: good news, ara and I solved both problems to run desktop tests in checkbox :)20:32
slangaseknew ubuntu alternates are built; posting to the tracker now20:33
slangasekkubuntu alternates are also built20:33
slangasekand posted20:34
henocr3: cool :)20:36
* sbeattie wonders if with ldtp we could create an automated test out of this recipe: https://bugs.launchpad.net/consolekit/+bug/269651/comments/4120:41
ubot5`Launchpad bug 269651 in consolekit "console-kit-daemon crashed with SIGSEGV in g_str_hash()" [High,In progress]20:41
slangasekxubuntu alternate posted20:44
mvoif someone could test if update-notifier works fine (does not start and does not crash) in the guest session, what would be most appreciated20:48
slangasekubuntustudio posted20:52
slangasekand mythbuntu alternate posted \o/21:06
* sbeattie ponders having the dl-iso script restart itself if it hits an iso that doesn't pass md5sum verification.21:09
stgrabersbeattie: did you add the /dllist thing to dl-iso ?21:17
sbeattiestgraber: I didn't yet.21:19
* mvo reboots to test i386-alternate21:37
arabug: when installing xubuntu localized in the live cd, when rebooting, the system is in English. You have to choose, on your first session your language in order to be localized.21:40
arais that known? is that a bug in ubiquity?21:40
henoara: bug 27752621:56
araheno: thanks! I'll comment on that one.21:57
arahttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/language-selector/+bug/277526/comments/422:00
ubot5`Launchpad bug 277526 in language-selector "[8.10] Post-installation language support download does not work" [High,Triaged]22:00
sbeattiehrm, anyone seen a problem with their xmodmap settings getting reset when a usb keyboard is plugged in?22:01
henosbeattie: custom xmodmap settings?22:09
sbeattieyes. I remap caps-lock to meta; it's honored correctly for my laptop's keyboard, but then plugging in my usb keyboard, it's not honored there, but *still is* on my laptop's keyboard.22:11
sbeattie(I'm aware of bug 269619 but I'm not convinced it's the same thing)22:12
sbeattiererunning xmodmap against my .Xmodmap file with my usb keyboard plugged in properly remaps the caps-lock key, but unplugging and plugging it back it in gets it unmapped again.22:14
sbeattieokay, filed a bug on it: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-input-evdev/+bug/28721522:26
ubot5`Launchpad bug 287215 in xserver-xorg-input-evdev "[intrepid] xmodmap settings not getting honored when keyboard devices are hotplugged" [Undecided,New]22:26
slangasekubuntu desktop images posted22:26
* stgraber takes Ubuntu alt 32bit23:25
henoThe edubuntu CDs still have WinFOSS actually (should have been removed - bug 276724)23:26
henonot RC-critical, but would be nice to fix for final23:26
stgraberis that milestoned ?23:26
stgraberI don't even know who can do that kind of change :)23:27
sbeattieHrm: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-cdimage/ perhaps?23:31
slangasekubuntu dvds should be publishing shortly, fwiw23:33
henoIt's https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/276724 cjwatson did a fix for the CD build script but it seems not to have stuck23:34
ubot5`Launchpad bug 276724 in ubuntu "Remove WinFOSS from Edubuntu add-on CD" [High,Triaged]23:34
henoit's not clear to me, the patch looks sensible enough23:35
slangasekpossibly it didn't get pushed to the right branch23:35
henohttp://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kamion/ubuntu-cdimage/mainline/revision/71923:35
henoah, could be23:35
slangasekno, it is merged to the right place23:35
slangasekchecking the change23:35
* heno takes kubuntu 64 alt23:37
slangasekfigured it out, the debian-cd scripts are still using the previously-downloaded tarballs23:39
slangasekcommented the bug, punting back to cjwatson23:39
henothanks slangasek :)23:45
stgraberok, so I have Ubuntu alt i386: ltsp, encryption and entire disk installing, will then do the same with 64bit23:49
slangasekanyone mind a quick reroll of ubuntu-server?23:50
stgraberslangasek: these are fast to test so not a problem for me23:55

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