[00:55] <deathtech> Heya Fellas
[00:56] <cody-somerville> Hi
[00:57] <deathtech> got an issue with grub on my xubuntu/ubuntu install on a latitude C600, it takes an inordinate amount of time to actually get past grub, it sits there forever, then eventually boots, i dont see any odd flags, any thoughts ?
[01:00] <deathtech> i mean its a good 180 seconds and when hitting ctrl+alt+f1, i get nothing, blinking cursor, and then bam randomly starts booting
[01:01] <deathtech> Archlinux, using grub, comes up instantly, so its thrown me a bit off
[01:07] <charlie-tca> Which version of xubuntu and which version of Ubuntu?
[01:10] <deathtech> 8.04
[01:10] <deathtech> Both
[01:11] <deathtech> i heard something about compiling grub with a -nofloppy option, but im unsure how to do so, and was kinda wondering if i could use a flag amybe. Also, the first thing i see is some kinda errorstating k_init could not resume image, appears to be some kinda resume feature incase the system randomly dies, but i dunno if seeking for that image is wahts doing it or not
[01:12] <charlie-tca> Have you tried removing the quiet option to see what it's doing?
[01:13] <deathtech> no, im a windows admin and a lot of this is green to me , so excuse my noobness :p
[01:13] <deathtech> trying now...
[01:13] <charlie-tca> no problem.
[01:17] <deathtech> bah it clears the screen before i can see what the last command was
[01:17] <deathtech> i see it now though
[01:17] <deathtech> wonder if i can snap the "pause" key and have it pause
[01:18] <deathtech> weird
[01:18] <deathtech> nowit boots up fine now....
[01:18] <deathtech> lol go figure
[01:19] <charlie-tca> I'd leave the "quiet" out then, so if it does it again, you get to see it.
[01:20] <deathtech> damn thing clears screen before i can see it though
[01:20] <deathtech> have to hit pause fast
[01:20] <deathtech> lol
[01:20] <deathtech> Thanks any Charlie
[01:20] <deathtech> Anyway **
[01:22] <charlie-tca> You're welcome. I'm glad I could help.
[05:24] <dunnen> my cd drive doesn't read blank cds
[05:24] <dunnen> anyone have that issue before?
[07:04] <zoredache> if the CDs are blank, then there is nothing to read
[09:03] <jointman> Xubuntu is so moody. There are days when it reads my router just fine, and other times it just doesn't work. But when I use Windows XP it works just fine. What the heck's the problem?
[09:05] <leche> "reads my router"?
[09:05] <leche> "it doesnt work" define it please
[09:16] <jointman> Network Manager seems fine.
[09:17] <jointman> All network settings are enabled properly.
[09:17] <jointman> And yet, no internet connection.
[09:17] <jointman> Prior to this, Xubuntu worked fine with my internet connection.
[09:22] <jointman> It's funny how people like to say trash about windows, but Xubuntu seems to have problems with something as simple as establishing an internet connection.
[09:22] <jointman> Something which i've never had a problem at all with Windows.
[09:23] <TheSheep> jointman: it would greatly help if you described your setup, "all is set up properly and doesn't work" is in fact not very informative
[09:23] <jointman> i need to know what i need to describe
[09:23] <jointman> all i know is, Xubutu 8.04 detected my router before and worked fine
[09:24] <jointman> i've rebooted multiple times, switched on and off my router
[09:24] <TheSheep> jointman: what is that "router" you are talking about? just an ethernet router? or ISDL modem? is it connected via ethernet or usb?
[09:24] <jointman> i disabled and re enabled my wired connection to no avail
[09:24] <jointman> ethernet router
[09:24] <TheSheep> how was it "detected"?
[09:25] <jointman> automatically
[09:25] <jointman> i didn't have to set-up anything
[09:25] <jointman> prior to this, firefox and galeon seem to crash most of the time
[09:26] <TheSheep> and you thik that firefox crashing is caused by your router?
[09:27] <jointman> not really, just saying for the record
[09:27] <TheSheep> where is that router connected?
[09:28] <jointman> to my pc
[09:28] <TheSheep> and only to your pc, or is there also some kind of connection to larger network infrastructure?
[09:28] <jointman> a 2nd pc at home
[09:28] <jointman> 2 pcs are connected to it
[09:29] <TheSheep> and the second pc is connected to the internet?
[09:29] <jointman> yeah, works fine with Windows XP on both pcs
[09:29] <jointman> in fact im using windows at the moment
[09:29] <jointman> since Xubuntu wont work
[09:31] <jointman> i wish there was a Terminal command i can use to fix this
[09:31] <jointman> i love Xubuntu, but these issues make it so frustrating
[09:31] <the-erm> Anyone know off the top of their head how to enable other people to view your desktop remotely with vnc?
[09:31] <the-erm> I can't seem to get it to go.
[09:31] <the-erm> jointman: what's the issue I just joined?
[09:31] <the-erm> Maybe I know.
[09:31] <jointman> It may seem vague but here goes.
[09:32] <jointman> I installed Xubuntu 8.04 last week and it automatically detected my router.
[09:32] <jointman> I didn't have to manually set-up anything for my internet connection.
[09:32] <Falatooni1> Hi
[09:32] <jointman> However, just this moment it wont work, or rather, Xubuntu cant seem to "work" with my router.
[09:32] <Falatooni1> I have quistion
[09:32] <jointman> When I tried using Windows XP, it works.
[09:32] <jointman> I just want to connect to the internet using Xubuntu. :/
[09:33] <the-erm> what does ifconfig show?
[09:33] <the-erm> Falatooni1: ok
[09:33] <Falatooni1> xubuntu 8.10 use openoffice.org 3.0?
[09:33] <jointman> i have no ifconfig
[09:33] <jointman> terminal cant find it
[09:33] <the-erm> Falatooni1: not sure, I don't use it enough to know.
[09:33] <jointman> bash: ifconig: command not found
[09:33] <the-erm> jointman: that's weird.
[09:33] <Falatooni1> ok
[09:34] <Falatooni1> and another quistion is:
[09:34] <jointman> oops
[09:34] <jointman> typo
[09:34] <the-erm> jointman: try sudo ifconfig
[09:34] <Falatooni1> xubuntu 8.10 support Persian language?
[09:34] <the-erm> Falatooni1: I wish I knew.
[09:34] <jointman> the-erm: it mentioned a bunch of stuff i cant paste here
[09:34] <jointman> too large
[09:35] <the-erm> What is the persian's laguage called?
[09:35] <Falatooni1> Persian is Iranian language
[09:35] <wormsxulla_> farsi ?
[09:35] <Falatooni1> Persian is Farsi
[09:36] <Falatooni1> xubuntu supoort Farsi language?
[09:36] <Falatooni1> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persian_language
[09:37] <jointman> no one can help me :(
[09:38] <Falatooni1> no one can help me too? :-(
[09:39] <TheSheep> Falatooni1: xubuntu doesn't have openoffcie installed by default, but you can install it yourself
[09:40] <TheSheep> Falatooni1: I think that the latest version that is realeased at the end of this month has openoffice 3.0
[09:40] <TheSheep> Falatooni1: you can also install from packages obtained from openoffice's website
[09:40] <Falatooni1> Thnaks but can you tell me about suport persian languga ein xubuntu?
[09:41] <Falatooni1> sorry for bad spelling in my notes
[09:43] <wormsxulla_> Falatooni1: tried http://www.ubuntu.com/support/local#head-3d1e257e99c17b4980920f12d60c7b27f5f10743
[09:43] <wormsxulla_> ?
[09:45] <Falatooni1> Thanks but ubuntu use gnome desktop and gnome support Persian language. Xubuntu dont use gnome desktop
[09:52] <jointman> damn it
[10:04] <jointman> no one can help
[10:10] <jointman> this is so frustrating
[10:10] <jointman> i still cant find a way
[10:17] <mnemoc> hi, will you try to update intrepid to 4.6?
[10:18] <jointman> is there any terminal command which can reread my ip address?
[10:18] <jointman> similar to window's ipconfig /release
[10:18] <jointman> and ipconfig /renew
[10:30] <wormsxulla_> ifconfig ?
[11:02] <Peterchen> hi
[11:03] <Peterchen> any germans here who can help me with an update?
[11:03] <TheSheep> !de
[11:05] <Peterchen> thanks
[12:25] <sirking1991> hi everyone! has anyone setup huawei e220 for xubuntu?
[12:26] <TheSheep> !anyone
[12:27] <sirking1991> does anyone knows how to setup huawei e220 in xubuntu?
[12:27] <sirking1991> please help
[12:28] <TheSheep> we don't even know what huawei e220 is, maybe describe your actual problem? what doesn't work?
[12:28] <sirking1991> its a usb 3g modem
[12:29] <sirking1991> xubuntu detected it as a usb storage device. but it is supposedly a modem
[12:29] <TheSheep> first hit in google: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3654996
[12:30] <TheSheep> maybe that will help you
[12:31] <sirking1991> thank you, i will try that now
[12:32] <vegpuff> Hi, i am trying to install Xubuntu via xubuntu-alternate-8.04-1 iso image. But when i install, it says some file is missing.
[12:32] <vegpuff> it is prompting me to retry for that file. (not sure which file). is there a bug open for this issue?
[12:32] <vegpuff> or is it happening only to me?
[12:33] <TheSheep> vegpuff: verify your cd for defects
[12:33] <vegpuff> TheSheep , there an option in installer itself for cd verification?
[12:33] <vegpuff> s/there/is there/
[12:33] <TheSheep> vegpuff: yes, in the first menu you see
[12:33] <vegpuff> thanks! let me look at it
[12:34] <TheSheep> if that fails, check md5 of the iso you downloaded
[12:35] <vegpuff> TheSheep , i checked the md5. it is fine. i am checking the cd for defects now.
[12:36] <sincostan> Hello there, I need some help
[12:36] <sincostan> My computer won't boot up, so I tried the xubuntu live cd
[12:36] <TheSheep> vegpuff: if it turns out defective, burn next one with the slowest speed possible
[12:36] <vegpuff> TheSheep:  Yes. it was a cd defect.
[12:37] <vegpuff> i am going to burn another one now..
[12:37] <sincostan> It will load to the point where xubuntu is supposed to show the login-screen, but then go dead on me.
[12:37] <TheSheep> sincostan: does pressing alt+ctrl+f2 give you a login prompt?
[12:38] <sincostan> TheSheep: I'll try that, brb
[12:45] <sincostan> TheSheep: Keyboard's dead, too, the lights on it flicker when I connect it, but nothing more
[12:45] <sincostan> TheSheep: Could it be my PSU that suddenly crawled up and died ?
[12:52] <sincostan> I get the motherboard screen, the Xubuntu language selection, then the meny with "Try xubuntu without changing anything..." and so on. I choose the live cd thing (try without changing anything), and I get the little mouse in a circle and a blue loading bar. When it finishes loading, the screen goes black on me and just dies. The keyboard stops working as well.
[12:53] <sincostan> Any ideas... anyone ?
[12:54] <drowner> hey everyone
[12:54] <sincostan> Hello, are you a hardware guy ?
[12:55] <drowner> No, why?
[12:55] <sincostan> I need some help with my system, I suspect that it's the harddrive or the power supply
[12:55] <TheSheep> sincostan: try disconnecting the hdd and booting the livecd
[12:55] <drowner> oh ok
[12:56] <sincostan> TheSheep: Ok, brb
[12:56] <drowner> was someone here
[12:56] <drowner> when i was talking about my problems with non-gnome WMs randomly booting me out?
[12:58] <drowner> Well, i solved it anyhow
[12:59] <sincostan> TheSheep: I get the same result with the hdd disconnected
[13:00] <sincostan> When I boot the live CD
[13:00] <sincostan> TheSheep: Should I go ahead and try to find a spare psu to try with ?
[13:07] <TheSheep> sincostan: I don't think it's psu
[13:07] <TheSheep> sincostan: you could try with a different graphics card
[13:07] <TheSheep> if you have one handy
[13:09] <sincostan> I installed more RAM a couple of months ago
[13:09] <sincostan> But it seems weird that it would start giving me trouble now and not right away
[13:11] <drowner> have you done a memtest?
[13:11] <drowner> sorry, came in half way through
[13:12] <sincostan> With the live cd ?
[13:13] <drowner> can you memtest with a live cd? I don't even know
[13:13] <drowner> Look, I don't even know what your problem is
[13:13] <drowner> so you probably shouldn't listen to me
[13:21] <sincostan> It's doing a memory check now
[13:23] <drowner> what is the problem anyway?
[13:24] <sincostan> system won't boot
[13:24] <sincostan> Do you want the full story ?
[13:24] <drowner> yes
[13:25] <drowner> No doubt i won't be able to help you
[13:25] <drowner> but i like stories :D
[13:27] <sincostan> Alright. It's my old computer, now my mother uses it. I got it in 2001, so it's a bit old, but I upgraded the RAM to 639 mb and installed XP on it, so she can use it for surfing and what not. A couple of weeks ago, she called me and said that her computer wouldn't start up. When I went and had a look at it, it wouldn't get past the windows loading bar thing. So, I figured it was the harddrive, as I had been having problems with it 
[13:28] <sincostan> I formatted the hdd, so now there's nothing on there.
[13:28] <sincostan> I have installed xubuntu successfully on other systems with the same disc.
[13:29] <drowner> and you can boot a live cd?
[13:30] <sincostan> I can get the menu, language options and all that, but when I choose to boot from it or install it, it dies after loading the loading bar thing
[13:31] <sincostan> I'm guessing it's a hardware problem, not really related to xubuntu, but this is the place where I can find a lot of computer people, quickly
[13:32] <drowner> Did the memtest go OK?
[13:33] <sincostan> So far, yes, but it's not even halfway through
[13:33] <sincostan> Look, I have to go help a friend with something, but I'll be back in two hours or something, just in case you come up with a solution.
[13:34] <drowner> I don't think I will
[13:34] <drowner> But his faith in me stirs my soul
[13:37] <TheSheep> there is always someone here
[14:33] <excalibas> hello, My volume control item has just disappeared on my laptop, I have sound (and I can use alsamixer from the terminal) but the gui disappeared and the shortcuts (Fn + F12) dont work ether  any help please?
[14:34] <charlie-tca> excalibas: what version of Xubuntu are you using?
[14:35] <excalibas> charlie-tca: 8.04
[14:36] <charlie-tca> Try right click on panel, add new item, Volume Control
[14:36] <charlie-tca> Don't forget to save settings when you logout/shutdown
[14:37] <excalibas> charlie-tca: I did that and nothing happens
[14:39] <charlie-tca> There's a bug about it, let me look
[14:40] <excalibas> thanks, never happened before
[14:40] <charlie-tca> Bit me yesterday, bug is https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-mixer/+bug/90261
[14:41] <charlie-tca> Xfce is working it.
[14:44] <excalibas> yes, looks like this bug, yesterday everything was fine, and I havent updated or changed the theme, today i turn my laptop on and it is gone
[14:46] <charlie-tca> There is a workaround mentioned in comment #35, it works for some people but not me.
[14:54] <excalibas> the keybindings are the shortcut keys?
[14:59] <maxamillion> cody-somerville: ping
[15:00] <cody-somerville> maxamillion, pong
[15:01] <charlie-tca> excalibas: yes
[15:02] <charlie-tca> i think
[15:04] <maxamillion> cody-somerville: random question, who do you work for? canonical or ubuntu?
[15:05] <cody-somerville> I work for Canonical's OEM Services Custom Engineering Solutions Group
[15:06] <maxamillion> ah cool cool
[15:12] <excalibas> Yee, the fix worked
[15:13] <excalibas> but the shortcuts dont...
[15:14] <charlie-tca> :(
[15:14] <charlie-tca> now i'm out of ideas
[15:15] <TheSheep> make sure your keyboard layout is set properly
[15:15] <excalibas> oh, they work, it just doesnt show nothing on the screen
[15:15] <TheSheep> the standard 105-keys layout doesn't have media keys
[15:15] <excalibas> thanks a lot charlie-tca
[15:16] <charlie-tca> Wish it had not broke the shortcuts
[15:18] <excalibas> maybe this gets fixed soon...
[15:19]  * charlie-tca crosses fingers
[15:34] <utomega> Hi
[15:35] <charlie-tca> utomega: hi
[15:36] <utomega> I was thinking about getting Xubuntu, but I have so called dual-boot (Windows XP and Fedora 9/8, can't remember :/). So, is it possible to install Xubuntu without loosing the possibility to boot Windows? :p I hope you understand what I mean :)
[15:37] <JannoTT> Yes
[15:38] <utomega> Hmm, ok, do I have to do something special, or can I just install Xubuntu instead Fedora?
[15:41] <JannoTT> You dont have todo anything. When its time to install/choose bootloader installer should say something like windows found+
[15:42] <utomega> Cool, thanks alot :), I think I'll wait for the 8.10 release, not much until realease.
[15:56] <charlie-tca> Why not download the 8.10 live cd and try it. You don't have to install then and it helps us test it.
[15:57] <utomega> ..beta or something is out already :D?
[15:57] <charlie-tca> We are testing the rc today. Get it at http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/daily-live/20081021.1/intrepid-desktop-i386.iso
[15:58] <charlie-tca> and put the results in qa tracker at http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/test/2057
[15:58] <vidd> utomega, there have been alpha and beta versions of 8.10 out almost since the release of 8.04!
[15:59] <utomega> :d, ok, thanks, started downloading, i'll try to remember to report the results.
[15:59] <charlie-tca> Thanks
[16:00] <Peterchen> so re
[16:03] <charlie-tca> Hell, I just blew out one of my burners
[16:03] <utomega> :|
[16:03] <charlie-tca> I have a faulty motherboard or power supply
[16:05] <utomega> Sorry to hear that, downloading is quite quick, few minutes more to download.
[16:06]  * vidd prefers the mini.iso
[16:06] <charlie-tca> Yea, I got the images. that's the second burner though on this system
[16:07] <charlie-tca> It only took two weeks for both to go out
[16:07] <vidd> the only downside is that the modification to install-recommends is immediately obvious
[16:07]  * charlie-tca hates eMachines
[16:08] <vidd> charlie-tca, you should consider building a system from the ground up
[16:08] <charlie-tca> I've never tried the mini.iso
[16:08] <charlie-tca> I have built two from the ground up, but this one was cheap - like US $50
[16:09] <charlie-tca> I have a motherboard, cpu, ps on order. Should be in this week
[16:10] <vidd> looks like ya need a burner now 2
[16:10] <vidd> so that system was used?
[16:10] <charlie-tca> Does, doesn't it. Maybe I should have waited for the stuff
[16:10] <charlie-tca> Yes, used 1.2Ghz, 384MB ram
[16:11] <charlie-tca> Hindsight - waiting is good
[16:11] <vidd> have you put that burner into one of your other systems?
[16:12] <charlie-tca> Not yet, i'm using that machine right now. I'll try that later today.
[16:12] <charlie-tca> smells like burnt wires though
[16:13] <vidd> thats a power supply
[16:13] <vidd> charlie-tca, you wanna hop into #xubuntu-offtopic?
[16:13] <charlie-tca> Just what I wanted to hear... and eMachines is special
[16:14] <charlie-tca> okay
[17:41] <utomega> Here we go, I'll ry Xubuntu, wish me luck!
[17:47] <galorin> I've got an m-audio audiophile 24/96 that I can't get any sound out of.
[17:49] <utomega> damn
[17:49] <utomega> as usually
[17:49] <galorin> Is there a howto anywhere relating to it?
[17:49] <utomega> it didn't work
[17:49] <vinnl> !sound | galorin
[17:49] <vidd> utomega, what failed?
[17:49] <vidd> live or alt install?
[17:51] <utomega> booting, first, it didn't do anything with my cd, started fedora, tried again, then got a weird and not informative table, waited, tried again, got ubuntu picture, some options (install, check cd) but after 2 seconds got error about booting, can't remember what it said excactly :/
[17:51] <utomega> xubuntu picture*
[17:51] <utomega> tried few more times, almost every time I saw an table, didn't make any sense to me :/
[17:52] <vidd> live cd?
[17:52] <vidd> alt cd?
[17:52] <utomega> the link I was given before
[17:52] <utomega> should be live
[17:52] <vidd> how much ram?
[17:53] <utomega> 700~ something
[17:53] <vidd> that should be plenty of ram to run the live cd
[17:53] <vidd> did you do the cd check?
[17:54] <utomega> I wasn't quick enough, tried, but the error got ahead of me, it just bumped out
[17:54] <utomega> and then the table showed up
[17:54] <vidd> sounds like you may have some hardware issues
[17:55] <vidd> completely unrelated to the cd burn
[17:55] <vidd> you dont by chance have a second system to test with?
[17:55] <utomega> :O
[17:55] <utomega> you mean, on a cd?
[17:55] <utomega> oh
[17:55] <utomega> you mean second computer?
[17:56] <vidd> you DID burn the iso to disk ... right?
[17:56] <utomega> yes :D
[17:56] <vidd> ok
[17:56] <utomega> used Roxio 9
[17:56] <JannoTT> I suggest you try 8.04 not 8.10 rc
[17:56] <vidd> and do you have a second computer?
[17:56] <utomega> yes, I can try it right now
[17:57] <vidd> JannoTT, he responded to the call to test the live cd for the intrepid release
[18:00] <utomega> hmm, I don't know how to set cd to boot first on this laptop :/, will take some time
[18:06] <utomega> well vidd, works in my laptop :(
[18:06] <utomega> too bad
[18:07] <utomega> seems like a really nice os
[18:07] <vidd> so there is an issue with your cd reader?
[18:07] <utomega> maybe,
[18:08] <utomega> well it's an cd reader/writer, but it only writes unreadable cd's, but so far it could read
[18:08] <vidd> also could be failing ram
[18:09] <vidd> so the burner only burns frisbees?
[18:09] <vidd> then i would definantly say there is an issue with your cd reader
[18:10] <vidd> as they say....its not a question of "if" your hardware will fail...but "when"
[18:10] <utomega> (yeah only frisbees), well, I have an older one, which should work well :/
[18:11] <utomega> but to be honest, it's the end of this school term and I have to learn for tomorrow :(, so I can't try anymore today, if it's any good I'll try to use another reader tomorrow.
[18:11] <utomega> and thanks alot vidd :)
[18:12] <vidd> no problem
[18:12] <utomega> well, bye :)
[18:19] <Nt_nT> hey, does anyone here have any experience with adeskelts??
[18:19] <Nt_nT> adesklets
[18:21] <vussville1> I recently tried
[18:21] <Nt_nT> any luck?
[18:22] <vussville1> you have to use the command "adesklets --xfce4" with a xfce4 tag
[18:22] <Nt_nT> I found that I have to start adesklets_installer in a terminal, but it installs the desklets pretty sporadic. Sometimes it works, sometimes not. And i dunno where to find the damn things when I eventually have installed them
[18:22] <Nt_nT> ok
[18:23] <utomega> lol, thanks again vidd, found some time to try and works fine
[18:24] <vidd> swapped out the cdrom drive?
[18:24] <utomega> yeah
[18:24] <Nt_nT> vussville1: im supposed to type "adesklets --xfce4" ?
[18:25] <vussville1> Nt_nt: adesklets --xfce4 will start the adesklets
[18:25] <Nt_nT> do i have to have xfce4?
[18:26] <Nt_nT> doesnt start when I do it...
[18:26] <Nt_nT> im running GNOME
[18:26] <vussville1> lol
[18:26] <vussville1> then use adesklets --nautilus
[18:26] <Nt_nT> what ? :P
[18:26] <vussville1> see "adesklets --help" for more info
[18:29] <vussville1> every adesklet you've installed will be in ~/.desklets
[18:29] <Nt_nT> ok
[18:30] <vussville1> and adesklet configuration file will be ~/.adesklets. Every adesklet listed in ~/adesklets file should show up on your desktop if you issue the command "adesklets --nautilus".
[18:31] <Nt_nT> ok
[18:32] <Nt_nT> do I have to do anything with the files under ~/.adesklets ?
[18:32] <Nt_nT> ~/.desklets
[18:33] <vussville1> In order to make installed desklets to show up every time you log into your desktop, you have to put the "adesklets --nautilus" commmand in your start-up list. However, with Gnome, my desklets show up for a short time when I logg in but disappear later, for some reason I do not understand. However, when I issue adesklets --nautilus, adesklets will show up on my desktop again.
[18:34] <Nt_nT> ok
[18:34] <Nt_nT> ~/.adesklets doesnt seem to exist :/
[18:35] <vussville1> No, you do not have to to anything with the files in ~/.desklets folder. However, you can edit ~/.adesklets file - erase the adesklets that you have installed and are in your ~/.desklets folder, but do not want to appear on desktop.
[18:35] <Nt_nT> ok
[18:36] <vussville1> So, you installed adesklets as such. As a program. But do you have installed some of the adesklets - like calendar, notes, yab or smth?
[18:37] <Nt_nT> I downloaded adesklet from the ubuntu repository, and got it started and installed some desklets
[18:37] <Nt_nT> but there is no ~/.adesklets
[18:38] <Nt_nT> there is a ~/.gdesklets
[18:38] <Nt_nT> lol
[18:39] <vussville1> how did you install those desklets?
[18:40] <Nt_nT> i went into usr/bin, and typed adesklets_installer or adesklets -i
[18:40] <Nt_nT> and did it in there
[18:40] <Nt_nT> didnt always work
[18:41] <Nt_nT> but i got three of the "installed"
[18:41] <Nt_nT> thats a shell of some sort :/
[18:43] <vussville1> what do you have in ~/desklets folder?
[18:45] <Nt_nT> i have five desklet folders with python scripts in them
[18:45] <Nt_nT> or at least thats what i think i have
[18:45] <vussville1> :)
[18:46] <Nt_nT> thats a screenshot of whats in the folders :P hehe
[18:47] <vussville1> so, when you do "adesklets --nautilus" in the terminal, nothing happens?
[18:48] <Nt_nT> jupp, absolutely nothing... there is just a new command prompt
[18:48] <Nt_nT> beneath
[18:48] <vussville1> aa ok
[18:49] <Nt_nT> well when i type adesklets -nautilus something happens
[18:49] <Nt_nT> then it lists commands and options
[18:50] <Nt_nT> ex:  -i,--installer Invoke the desklet installer (requires Python)
[18:50] <Nt_nT> Fake root window detection
[18:50] <vussville1> you have to go to the ~/.desklets folder and in every folder you have there you have to make the python scripts executabe and then run ./Calendar.py. Did you do that?
[18:50] <Nt_nT> thats what it says over the list
[18:51] <Nt_nT> no, how do u make them executable?
[18:52] <Nt_nT> im sorry, im a huge noob :P
[18:52] <TheSheep> there is nothing wrong in being a newbie
[18:53] <Nt_nT> :)
[18:53] <TheSheep> chmod a+x filename is one way
[18:53] <Nt_nT> u gotta start somewhere, hehe
[18:53] <vussville1> GUI way --> right click on  *****.py file -->Properties -->permissions-->allow executing as .....
[18:53] <TheSheep> or you could right-click in thunar, select properties, then permissions tab, etc.
[18:53] <TheSheep> right
[18:53] <Nt_nT> brb
[18:53] <TheSheep> chmod a+x filename is fater to type ;)
[18:55] <Nt_nT> hm, nothing happened when i tried chmod a+x filename
[18:56] <vussville1> :D
[18:56] <vussville1> I guess you can just left click on the filename.py file
[18:56] <Nt_nT> :P
[18:56] <Nt_nT> yeah i did that
[18:57] <Nt_nT> its allowed to be exec
[18:57] <vussville1> did dialog window pop up?
[18:57] <vussville1> you have to choose "run"
[18:58] <Nt_nT> the terminal just popped up for a split second when i clicked on it and chose to run in terminal
[18:59] <vussville1> Good. So, now, look, if you have ~/.adesklets file
[18:59] <Nt_nT> ok
[19:00] <Nt_nT> . . . . noooo :P
[19:00] <Nt_nT> there is no
[19:00] <Nt_nT> ne
[19:01] <vussville1> OK, let's do it in terminal
[19:01] <Nt_nT> ok
[19:01] <vussville1> go to the folder where you did a+x chmod
[19:02] <vussville1> then type in ./filename.py Instead of filename, of course, use the name of the file you have there:)
[19:02] <Nt_nT> ok
[19:03] <Nt_nT> with chmod a+x infront?
[19:03] <vussville1> if you did it correctly last time, you do not have to do chmod a+x again
[19:04] <Nt_nT> ok
[19:04] <Nt_nT> something happened when i type ./RAIDar.py
[19:05] <Nt_nT> some error messages
[19:05] <vussville1> what error messages?
[19:05] <vussville1> what do they say?
[19:05] <Nt_nT> AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'signal'
[19:06] <Nt_nT> File "./mailer.py", line 46, in <module>
[19:06] <Nt_nT>     import adesklets
[19:06] <Nt_nT>   File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/adesklets/__init__.py", line 30, in <module>
[19:06] <Nt_nT>     from adesklets.initializer import _Initializer
[19:06] <Nt_nT>   File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/adesklets/initializer.py", line 13, in <module>
[19:06] <Nt_nT>     from children_handler import _Children_handler
[19:06] <Nt_nT>   File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/adesklets/children_handler.py", line 5, in <module>
[19:06] <Nt_nT>     from signal_handler import Signal_handler
[19:06] <Nt_nT>   File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/adesklets/signal_handler.py", line 12, in <module>
[19:06] <Nt_nT>     class Signal_handler:
[19:06] <Nt_nT>   File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/adesklets/signal_handler.py", line 20, in Signal_handler
[19:06] <Nt_nT>     func = posix_signal.signal
[19:06] <Nt_nT> the error message was at the bottom...
[19:07] <TheSheep> !pastebin
[19:08] <Nt_nT> cool :)
[19:09] <vussville1> I do not know what happened. However, in every desklet folder that you have in ~/.desklets folder, there is readme fail. It should have instructions how to install a particular desklet. Maybe there are some dependencies - some packages - you have to have installed.
[19:09] <Nt_nT> ok
[19:09] <vussville1> why do you want to try adesklets?
[19:10] <Nt_nT> because it seems to be a practical sollution
[19:10] <Nt_nT> and it looks cool :P
[19:10] <vussville1> there are gdesklets and similar things that, I believe, are more easy to use especially for newbies
[19:10] <Nt_nT> well i can try some more another time
[19:10] <Nt_nT> ok
[19:10] <Nt_nT> i installed gdesklets but that app wont start...but, hehe, thats another story
[19:11] <vussville1> OK
[19:11] <Nt_nT> maybe i have to restart the system or something
[19:12] <vussville1> I do not think that will solve the problem. You know that you have managed to install some adesklets, if ~/.adesklets file appears in your home folder
[19:14] <Nt_nT> i found the file (bows his head in shame). I thought u where talking about a folder :S
[19:15] <Nt_nT> but there is nothing in the file though
[19:19] <Nt_nT> well, thnx for the help :)
[19:19] <martinus> Hi all. I have a problem when it comes to installing, or rather formatting, my testing computer for the new 8.10 install. I did a native BeOS install on it, just to check it out (yes, it's an old one), a couple of weeks ago. This have somehow jumbeled the partition scheme in some way.
[19:22] <martinus> Now, all the steps of the partitioning (and install, but I doubt it is related) functions, until I press apply for the formatting of the drive. Then I get a message that says: Warning: Unable to detect filesystem! Possible reasons are:
[19:22] <martinus> -The filesystem is damaged
[19:22] <martinus> -The filesystem is unknown to GParted
[19:22] <martinus> -There is no filesystem available (unformatted)
[19:23] <martinus> My bucks is on the second one, have anyone experienced anything alike?
[19:25] <martinus> note that this happens even after deleting all partitions in gparted, before adding swap and formatting
[21:32] <Raylz> is there a special release for the acer aspire one with linpus linux?
[21:33] <Raylz> btw, should i try the xubuntu beta for this notebook?
[21:34] <matthewh4> just loaded xubuntu on to 1.1GHz celeron with 512MB RAM with onboard VGA sometimes it take 20mins to boot and say loading hardware drivers fail and I have no menu bars usally boots in 4mins wen it works
[21:35] <matthewh4> will a graphics card help any ideas
[21:36] <cody-somerville> just try rebooting
[21:36] <cody-somerville> should fix it
[21:37] <matthewh4> yeah rebooting does fix it just wondering if there was a permanent fix
[21:38] <TheSheep> alt+ctrl+backspace shoul be faster
[21:39] <TheSheep> not sure what exactly happens when you get that error