[00:00] <administrator> thank you very much
[00:03] <daniele> ciao
[00:03] <daniele> qualcuno sa come togliere l'animazione delle icone su kubuntu?
[00:03] <genii> !it
[00:03] <daniele> l'animazione che parte quando si lancia l'applicazione
[00:03] <freeksh0w86> When I try to install 8.10 beta it doesn't continue after the keyboard layout screen. It just greys the back and next buttons. Any ideas?
[00:03] <genii> !it| daniele
[00:04] <daniele> ops
[00:04] <daniele> sorry
[00:04] <genii> freeksh0w86: Ask in #ubuntu+1
[00:04] <freeksh0w86> ok thanks
[00:05] <genii> freeksh0w86: You're welcome
[00:12] <administrator> genii thanks ver much again that installed perfect, tvm
[00:12] <genii> administrator: You're welcome
[00:15] <natalisushka> Hi, does kubuntu have a compiz manager?
[00:22] <genii> !ccsm
[00:22] <\Kira> natalisushka: you can get compiz for kubuntu and it works fine and has a config window, but its good to have the fusion-icon package aswell
[00:29] <NamShub> how can I change the colors of kde3 apps in kde4?
[00:46] <genii> LjL: wb
[00:48] <jahbeez> hey all
[00:49] <jahbeez> any ssh experts?
[00:53] <genii> jahbeez: What is the problem you are experiencing with ssh
[00:53] <manoman> .
[00:53] <ubuntu__> hi all
[00:54] <jahbeez> I suddenly (or for about a month now) can't ssh into my mythbox
[00:54] <ubuntu__> I need to resize my / partition
[00:54] <genii> colonel_panic: Boot to livecd and use the partitioner to resize it
[00:54] <colonel_panic> I am now running kubuntu via livecd
[00:55] <colonel_panic> will that destroy any data on my / partition?
[00:55] <genii> jahbeez: The mythTV box has openssh-server running?
[00:55] <colonel_panic> I tried copying the entire thing to my new hard drive, and some files wouldn't copy
[00:56] <colonel_panic> there's approximately 5 MB of data that wouldn't copy
[00:57] <colonel_panic> genii: when you say "use the partitioner", do you mean gparted?
[00:57] <genii> colonel_panic: You can also do something like use dd to copy the entire drive partition info and all to the new drive, if it's a larger one. Then use the gparted or so to resize
[00:57] <genii> colonel_panic: Yes
[00:57] <genii> jahbeez: I do not assist in PM, only in public channel, this is my polcy, sorry
[00:58] <colonel_panic> ok, "sudo gparted" in the bash shell does nothing
[00:58] <colonel_panic> "command not found"
[00:58] <genii> colonel_panic: alt-f2    then: kdesu gparted
[00:58] <colonel_panic> I tried installing it, but I'm still getting the same error
[00:58] <genii> Wait kubuntu livecd?
[00:59] <colonel_panic> yes
[00:59] <genii> colonel_panic: alt-f2    then: kdesu qtparted
[00:59] <genii> gparted is the gnome version
[01:00] <colonel_panic> again, command not found
[01:00] <jahbeez> ok sorry, yeah the server has been running, it just now won't accept my password
[01:00] <genii> jahbeez: What is result of command:     lsof -i:22          on mythtv box?   Use pastebin please if too long so as not to flood channel
[01:01] <colonel_panic> genii: command not found
[01:01] <genii> colonel_panic: Try then:   alt-f2  and: kdesudo qtparted
[01:01] <colonel_panic> I have a shell open, no need for alt-f2
[01:02] <jahbeez> colonel, download>boot partedmagic, get partitions straight, boot 'Buntu
[01:02] <genii> colonel_panic: Is this a shell you got to by way of something like ctrl-alt-f1 ?
[01:02] <compilerwriter> I tried to fire up the help in Kmymoney and I was told the kdehelpcenter could not be found do I need to apt-get it?
[01:03] <genii> eg: graphic apps will not run in those consoles. Only from Konsole or so
[01:03] <v1s1t> I have a shared folder on ubuntu 6.06 but when i try to view the folder from my xp machine it asks for a login and password. I'd like it to be available without. Is there any way to accomplish this?
[01:03] <nejode> colonel_panic: in the livecd>konsole>sudo apt-get install gparted ... and go from there> kmenu>system>gparted
[01:04] <jahbeez> genii, nothing, goes back to command prompt
[01:04] <genii> nejode: This works also, but livecd should have a partitioner somewhere on it
[01:04] <emma> something odd is happening in kubuntu. When I try to restart, shutdown, or leave, nothing is happening.
[01:04] <genii> jahbeez: This means nothing using port 22 (ssh port) is running on that box. eg: the sshd process is not running
[01:05] <jahbeez> ok, why now and what do I do about it?
[01:06] <nejode> v1s1t: in /etc/samba/smb.conf change security = user to security = share
[01:06] <v1s1t> oh thx a bunch
[01:06] <emma> Any ideas?
[01:07] <genii> jahbeez: You are on that box console right now?
[01:07] <jahbeez> I used to ssh into this thing all the time, then I couldn't and can't
[01:07] <emma> all my attempts to restart, leave, quit, etc, when I press on the buttons, nothing happens.
[01:07] <jahbeez> yep, as good as I can be with remote mouse :)
[01:07] <nejode> v1s1t: remove the semicolon at the bweginning of the line (if it's there!)
[01:08] <nejode> v1s1t: save your changes and restart samba
[01:08] <v1s1t> right now i have "security = user"
[01:08] <genii> jahbeez: OK. When you try:   sudo /etc/init.d/ssh/ssh start                   does it groan or start the sshd?
[01:08] <v1s1t> so i need to change user to share
[01:08] <sandaili> hi guys I was wondering if anyone has a sound card they can recommend to me
[01:08] <emma> it is unclear to me why all the quit buttons on kubuntu would stop working?
[01:08] <nejode> v1s1t: change "user" to "share"
[01:08] <genii> jahbeez: Sorry   sudo /etc/init.d/ssh start                    only, no double "ssh" there
[01:09] <v1s1t> how do i restart samba
[01:09] <genii> emma: Me too. It is a strange problem
[01:09] <v1s1t> in console
[01:09] <genii> v1s1t: sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart
[01:09] <v1s1t> thx
[01:09] <genii> v1s1t: np
[01:09] <genii> emma: The system is responsive otherwise?
[01:10] <emma> I have noticed a lot of things get restarted in /etc/init.d/foo restart
[01:10] <emma> that's how you restart ssh too.
[01:10] <v1s1t> still asking for a username and pass
[01:10] <genii> emma: Yes, it is where all the system startup scripts are
[01:10] <nejode> emma: can you shutdown with the command "halt"?
[01:10] <sandaili> I visited here and there aren't many to pick from http://linux.about.com/od/gmr_howto/a/hwtgmr09t00.htm
[01:10] <jahbeez> looks like it started the server, still won't accept my password
[01:10] <emma> nejode: yes I would imagine I can. I've not tried since I figure that will work and I thought this was odd and should be worked out or at least mentioned in case it helps others.
[01:11] <emma> genii: it's a good one to know.
[01:11] <genii> jahbeez: Does now the:  lsof -i:22         command show something like:  sshd     4806 root    3u  IPv6  15821       TCP *:ssh (LISTEN)                ?
[01:12] <jahbeez> nope, still straight back to command prompt
[01:12] <nejode> emma: I said that because I had once that prob, rebooted and everything began working again
[01:13] <genii> jahbeez: Hm. What about:  ps ax | grep sshd                         ?
[01:13] <emma> nejode: yep i imagine it will work again after a reboot. It's just odd.
[01:13] <emma> nejode: what process runs the login/out tools?
[01:15] <jahbeez> k, has some output. /usr/sbin/sshd and another process with ?
[01:15] <v1s1t> hey it no longer asks for a pass but it still isn't showing my shared folder
[01:16] <v1s1t> just my printer
[01:16] <genii> jahbeez: Heh, the "?" I put was just part of the question I asked and not part of the command. But regardless it does show sshd running then?
[01:17] <genii> jahbeez: Can you successfully    ssh localhost                        on the mythtv box?
[01:18] <jahbeez> to the last one, yes
[01:18] <nejode> emma: no idea..maybe kdeinit?
[01:19] <jahbeez> but I still get "Permission denied (publickey,password)"
[01:19] <jahbeez> from my remote box
[01:19] <nejode> emma: kaccess?
[01:20] <nejode> v1s1t: paste the last 10 lines of your /etc/samba/smb.conf file to take a look
[01:21] <v1s1t> ok brb
[01:21] <v1s1t> thx
[01:27] <genii> jahbeez: Weird.
[01:27] <v1s1t> http://pastebin.com/d2f91cfe1
[01:27] <genii> jahbeez: You using IP or name in the ssh command?
[01:27] <nejode> jahbeez: and if you move your ~./ssh/known_hosts file?
[01:28] <v1s1t> let me know when you have corrected it
[01:28] <v1s1t> unless you might be kind enough to walk me through it
[01:29] <nejode> v1s1t: browseable = yes
[01:29] <emma> Have any of you noticed that when kubuntu is starting up, there will be a momentary flash of whatever the screen looked like just before logging off, before going on to render the start up?
[01:29] <genii> Not on mine
[01:29] <SlimeyPete> not for me. Are you using hibernate or something?
[01:30] <emma> No but this happens when i shutdown by doing sudo shutdown -r now
[01:30] <v1s1t> all browseables are yes
[01:30] <v1s1t> anything else?
[01:30] <nejode> v1s1t: your share is /media???
[01:30] <emma> try shutting down that way once.
[01:30] <v1s1t> yes i want all mounted media shared on my network
[01:31] <emma> then restart and notice how it will flash a quick image of the screen right before shutdown before going on with the startup.
[01:31] <SlimeyPete> I think your eyes are just really slow to update
[01:31] <emma> hehe no i know what i'm seeing.
[01:31] <emma> I should perhaps say though, I'm using Kubuntu Intrepid.
[01:32] <genii> AFK (pizza arrived)
[01:32] <jahbeez> I'm using the IP of the mythbox
[01:32] <nejode> v1s1t: you shure about that... you'll have a big permissions mess there
[01:33] <jahbeez> I haven't tried moving the known_hosts file, but I did delete stuff in the ~/.ssh directory out of desperation
[01:33] <emma> do you guys find that support for Kubuntu is quite different than support for Ubuntu?
[01:34] <SlimeyPete> it's a little more laid-back ;)
[01:35] <v1s1t> i just realized that
[01:35] <v1s1t> just tried on the xp box then tried making it /media/'usb drive'
[01:36] <v1s1t> same issue
[01:36] <v1s1t> should i mount it to a folder outside media?
[01:39] <v1s1t> 'lo?
[01:39] <nejode> v1s1t: I usually  use a public directory created in /home with 777 permissions
[01:39] <nejode> ...but a removan
[01:40] <v1s1t> yea i have one how do i change the permissions? the folder is /home/ftp
[01:40] <nejode> *removable media is a little more problematic
[01:40] <v1s1t> its a usb hard drive via ide to usb
[01:41] <nejode> ok, but you should not use fstab to mount a removable drive
[01:41] <nejode> ...unless you make it persistent
[01:42] <v1s1t> i use the mount --bind to make it mount to /home/ftp
[01:42] <col_panic> ok well none of the partitioning tools seem to work
[01:42] <kjetil1001> Hello! I just (tried to) switch from ubunto to kubuntu. Problem: emacs misbehaves!!! What to do?
[01:42] <genii> col_panic: What filesystem type is this old / you want to resize?
[01:43] <nejode> well, then try sudo chmod -R 777 /home/ftp
[01:43] <genii> Ouch, 777
[01:43] <v1s1t> whoa
[01:43] <col_panic> ext3
[01:43] <v1s1t> lots of stuff
[01:43] <col_panic> the util won't even launch
[01:43] <col_panic> I keep getting "command not found" errors
[01:44] <v1s1t> i should be able to read and write from other machines now right?
[01:44] <col_panic> I'm running this from a kubuntu livecd
[01:44] <col_panic> hardy
[01:45] <kjetil1001> what do emacs users in kubuntu do for, for instance, get accented letteers í  to show right?
[01:45] <v1s1t> still having the same issue with permissions
[01:45] <col_panic> I'm applying updates right now
[01:45] <col_panic> hopefully this will help
[01:45] <v1s1t> maybe i should try suse
[01:46] <jahbeez> ok, so how do I start over with ssh?
[01:46] <v1s1t> hehe
[01:46] <nejode> v1s1t: maybe you'll have to add "directory mask = 0777" and "create mask = 0777" to your smb.conf
[01:46] <v1s1t> whereabouts in the file
[01:46] <jahbeez> this can't be this difficult
[01:46] <v1s1t> bottom ok?
[01:49] <kjetil1001> don't kde users use emacs?
[01:49] <v1s1t> nm found and changed
[01:49] <nejode> v1s1t: a few lines to the top you'll see the directory mask and create mask lines...
[01:52] <col_panic> genii: it's impossible to resize a partition without using the livecd, isn't it?
[01:52] <col_panic> what if I use a different distro?
[01:53] <genii> col_panic: It's impossible to do it from booted inside the system you want to resize is the basic problem. Any distro with some version of parted (gparted or qtparted, etc) should also work
[01:55] <nejode> col_panic: a PartedMagic CD is always a good thing to have
[01:55] <col_panic> oh hell
[01:55] <col_panic> I can't install all the updates because my root partition is now filling up even faster!
[01:56] <col_panic> hsould I *not* run gparted fron a konsole instance?
[01:58] <col_panic> *should*
[01:58] <genii> Well Gparted is the Gnome parted. So is better if on a Kubuntu livecd to use instead QTparted which is the kde parted.
[01:58] <col_panic> oh yeah, right
[01:58] <col_panic> lemme try it
[01:59] <col_panic> command not found
[01:59] <col_panic> dammit
[01:59] <col_panic> I don't understand why this isn't working
[02:00] <nejode> col_panic: why don't you do it through the GUI???
[02:01] <genii> Since they need admin rights, trying to run a gnome app from inside konsole using kdesu or kdesudo doesn't usually work. Same as running gksudo <something> from inside konsole doesn't also work. gksu/gksudo <gnome-appname> from inside Gnome Terminal   and kdesu/kdesudo <kde-appname> from inside Konsolel
[02:02] <genii> and      sudo <command-line-only-appname>      from almost any Terminal/Konsole
[02:02] <freeksh0w86> how do I show hidden files in dolphin (begins with . character)?
[02:03] <cuznt> right click
[02:03] <CanOfRats> \/lisy
[02:04] <genii> freeksh0w86: Alt   plus  .         eg: alt and period key
[02:04] <dwidmann> or view -> show hidden files
[02:07] <DarkTan> i need help. When i try to do i fresh install, i get all the way through to the formatting stage. At this point it jumps to 33% locks up and the "caps lock" and "scroll lock" lights on the key board flash
[02:07] <DarkTan> is that an error code?
[02:08] <genii> col_panic: nejode's recommendation of the dedicated partitioning boot CD is likely your best bet here I think
[02:08] <genii> DarkTan: kernel panic
[02:09] <DarkTan> what is kernel panic and how do i get this cd?
[02:09] <DarkTan> also, I'm using once SCSI drive and two IDE drives, but it still did it w/o the SCSI drive
[02:09] <genii> DarkTan: The CD I mentioned was for the user named col_panic and not directed at you
[02:10] <DarkTan> oh, sorry, got cinfuzed
[02:10] <genii> DarkTan: A kernel panic is pretty bad.
[02:10] <DarkTan> confuzed*
[02:10] <DarkTan> how do i fix it?
[02:10] <genii> DarkTan: It's theclosest thing there is in linux to a Blue Screen of Death, in fact
[02:10] <DarkTan> w00t
[02:11] <nejode> col_panic: http://partedmagic.com/wiki/PartedMagic.php
[02:11] <genii> DarkTan: Did you successfully use this cd previously to install from?
[02:11] <DarkTan> yes, both CD's on several occasions
[02:12] <genii> DarkTan: PErhaps try instead the Alternate CD...has additional drivers but a text installer, no GUI
[02:12] <col_panic> nejode, thanks
[02:12] <DarkTan> you mean the one that is not the live CD?
[02:12] <genii> DarkTan: Yes
[02:12] <genii> !alternate
[02:12] <DarkTan> i have those
[02:12] <DarkTan> Kubuntu and Xubuntu
[02:13] <genii> DarkTan: Have you tried one of those yet?
[02:13] <jimmy51_home> why don't they make a GUI'd installer with the additional drivers?
[02:13] <genii> (the alternate)
[02:13] <DarkTan> yes, those are the only disks i have
[02:13] <genii> jimmy51_home: Because then no room for the livecd operating system
[02:13] <jimmy51_home> ah
[02:13] <DarkTan> i had to use the alternate on the last comp i installed on
[02:14] <DarkTan> i have a live DVD of 7.10, should i try that?
[02:14] <genii> DarkTan: Did you do some system diagnostics on this computer that is problemmatic? The RAM may be bad for instance , this can be checked with the memtest utility
[02:14] <DarkTan> no i have not, i'll try that
[02:15] <DarkTan> that is quite possible, the bad ram, this thing is made up of various bits and peicies i dug out of my closet
[02:15] <DarkTan> if everything i did works, it will be a miracle
[02:16] <genii> Heh
[02:16] <jimmy51_home> Q:  how can i reset tty7 from tty1 ?
[02:16] <genii> jimmy51_home: kde3 or kde4 ?
[02:16] <jimmy51_home> 4
[02:16] <col_panic> OK I can't seem to run anything as root using this livecd
[02:16] <DarkTan> 0_o
[02:16] <genii> jimmy51_home: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm-kde4 restart
[02:17] <DarkTan> ok errors at 280 and climbing
[02:17] <col_panic> and I don't have cdirtect access to my disk filesystems
[02:17] <DarkTan> make that 450
[02:17] <jimmy51_home> thanks
[02:17] <col_panic> *direct*
[02:17] <genii> jimmy51_home: Welcome
[02:17] <genii> DarkTan: Doesn't sound good
[02:17] <DarkTan> 700 now, i have to agree
[02:18] <col_panic> ok rebooting
[02:18] <DarkTan> every single one is 127.1MB, so i'm hoping it's only one stick
[02:18] <col_panic> talk to you all on the other side
[02:18] <DarkTan> Count channel = 1
[02:18] <DarkTan> 1200 errors now
[02:19] <genii> Toss it
[02:19] <DarkTan> which stick would it be?
[02:19] <genii> Try memtest with 1 out and see if thats it or no.
[02:20] <genii> DarkTan: How many sticks in it?
[02:20] <crzyboi_Laptop> how stable is the new release?
[02:21] <genii> crzyboi_Laptop: Not as stable as most people would like
[02:21] <crzyboi_Laptop> genii, a lot of bugs?
[02:22] <genii> crzyboi_Laptop: A fair bit, yes. But it varies. Some people are not having probs with it, others are.
[02:23] <genii> crzyboi_Laptop: "Use at your own risk"   etc
[02:23] <crzyboi_Laptop> ic
[02:23] <crzyboi_Laptop> i think ill wait a but
[02:23] <crzyboi_Laptop> bit*
[02:24] <genii> crzyboi_Laptop: Official release is Oct 30, perhaps give it a week or so after for the really bad bugs to be patched, after they are known
[02:24] <genii> DarkTan: Just two ram sticks in it, or more than that?
[02:25] <ign0ramus> hey guys.  I'm giving dolphin another try (Konqueror is starting to get bogged down with loading directories with lots of files)... Is there a way to separate hidden files from non-hidden, the way Konqui does by default?
[02:25] <zerotolerance> hello
[02:25] <zerotolerance> im having a hard time getting pcanywhere to install on my ubuntu box
[02:26] <zerotolerance> ive installed java but when i try ti install the app i get an error
[02:26] <zerotolerance> WARNING: could not delete temporary file /tmp/ismp002/5723167
[02:26] <zerotolerance> WARNING: could not delete temporary file /tmp/ismp002/7113152
[02:26] <juanantonio> Hello. Can anyone tell me how I can set the boot loader to choose Windows or Kubuntu when I set on my PC?
[02:26] <arkygeek> speaking of dolphin, I am missing some features I loved.... like the move to... copy to.... archive   extract to......  how do i get these all back?
[02:26] <zerotolerance> and it says the wizard failed
[02:26] <crzyboi_Laptop> juanantonio, edit the grub list
[02:26] <ign0ramus> !grub | juanantonio
[02:26] <arkygeek> juanantonio: modify your grub menu
[02:27] <arkygeek> like ign0ramussaid :P
[02:27] <juanantonio> Can I make it from Kubuntu?
[02:27] <ign0ramus> juanantonio: or the lazy way- you can install qgrubedit, and do it all through a gui...
[02:27] <ign0ramus> juanantonio: yes
[02:27] <genii> zerotolerance: Please in future do not paste multiple lines into the channel, use the pastebin instead
[02:27] <genii> !pastebin
[02:28] <juanantonio> No idea. What is the option? I have Kubuntu 8.04
[02:28] <ign0ramus> juanantonio: try reading the tutorials
[02:28] <DarkTan> genii, i got three 128mb sticks
[02:28] <genii> zerotolerance: As for pcanywhere on Ubuntu there seems to be much about it on this site: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2335907    some of which might be helpful to you
[02:28] <Colonel_Panic> okay, back to reality
[02:28] <Colonel_Panic> I'
[02:29] <Colonel_Panic> I'm downlioading the PartedMagic ISo now
[02:29] <juanantonio> Ok. Another question, I have started with aMule, but it sends me the error Kad firewalled
[02:29] <zerotolerance> thanks ive been all up and down that page and it gives me the same error the guy gets that last posted
[02:29] <zerotolerance> no one ever posted a solution
[02:29] <genii> DarkTan: I'd yank one out, retest, cycle one, retest, etc in this way until the bad one is found
[02:29] <zerotolerance> i want to get away from windows but my compay has pc anywhere on everything it runs
[02:29] <nejode> ign0ramus, arkygeek: have you tried Krusader?
[02:30] <DarkTan> ok will do
[02:30] <ign0ramus> nejode: not yet
[02:30] <genii> DarkTan: The livecd will run on 256 so if you keep at least 2 in there should be enough
[02:30] <juanantonio> Anyone read my question about aMule?
[02:31] <nejode> ...try it out, it's full of surprises
[02:31] <DarkTan> well, the art will run on less than 100, so i'm good either way
[02:31] <ign0ramus> nejode: installing now... i love Konqui, but man, it just stalls when opening up my roms folder or even /usr/bin
[02:32] <peer`> hey all
[02:32] <ign0ramus> juanantonio: you probably need to forward your ports
[02:32] <dwidmann> ign0ramus: possibly a filesystem performance issue.
[02:32] <nejode> ign0ramus: I'm a konqueror man myself, but as you say, it's getting kind of heavy
[02:33] <ign0ramus> dwidmann: could be... on a fresh install, it opens directories beautifully, but when you end up with a few thousand files (like my music directory), it really hangs
[02:33] <peer`> Alright, so under KDE3.5.x, knetworkmanager has a good working gui and everything. Under KDE4.1.2, I get no GUI for knetworkmanager and as such can't manage network connections through my wireless that way. is there a KDE4 update to knetworkmanager's interface so I can still run KDE4 properly?
[02:33] <zerotolerance> is there any programs out there that use pcanywhere type stuff that i can use in linux?
[02:34] <juanantonio> ignoramus, anda how can I make that?
[02:34] <DarkTan> well i think i found the bad one, bank 2
[02:35] <DarkTan> test is progressing well with only one stick in it
[02:35] <ign0ramus> nejode: just opened my roms directory in about 4 seconds, as opposed to nearly 30 seconds in Konqueror.  Nice suggestion!
[02:36] <peer`> Alright, so under KDE3.5.x, knetworkmanager has a good working gui and everything. Under KDE4.1.2, I get no GUI for knetworkmanager and as such can't manage network connections through my wireless that way. is there a KDE4 update to knetworkmanager's interface so I can still run KDE4 properly?
[02:36] <dwidmann> peer`: I think that's a work in progress.
[02:36] <peer`> okay
[02:37] <peer`> are there any other network managers I can use under KDE4.1.2?
[02:37] <ign0ramus> nejode: can you toggle the split screen?  for most of my purposes, it's overkill, and looks ugly.  but my god, the options!
[02:37] <ign0ramus> peer`: wicd
[02:37] <dwidmann> peer`: knetworkmanager (from kde3) will work fine
[02:37] <peer`> dwidmann it runs but I get no GUI so I can't manage anything
[02:37] <dwidmann> peer`: hmm, weird.
[02:37] <peer`> ign0ramus: sudo apt-get install wicd will work, right?
[02:38] <ign0ramus> peer`: i believe so... homepage is here: http://wicd.sourceforge.net/
[02:38] <peer`> dwidmann: yes, especially considering the first two KDE4.1.2 sessions I ran did just fine, knetworkmanager GUI and all
[02:38] <ign0ramus> peer`: i actually find it better than knetworkmanager, which was always a little wonky for me.
[02:39] <ign0ramus> peer`: wicd does not appear to be in the regular repos, so go with the sourceforge link
[02:39] <dwidmann> Looks like it won't be apt-getable (I feel like trying it myself)
[02:39] <peer`> 8.04 is hardy right?
[02:39] <jimmy51_home> is there a quick command to check to see if i have 3d enabled or not?
[02:39] <apachelogger> you could install network-manger-gnome
[02:39] <jimmy51_home> peer`: yes
[02:39] <peer`> ign0ramus:  I was going to add the wicd repository link on the page
[02:40] <apachelogger> wicd is GTK software anyway
[02:40] <ign0ramus> peer`: well, then yeah, apt will get it ;)
[02:40] <DarkTan> ok test passed with 128, running with ram from bank 1 and bank 3, places in banck 1 and 2
[02:40] <DarkTan> placed*
[02:41] <genii> DarkTan: Found the bad one then?
[02:41] <DarkTan> looks like it
[02:41] <dwidmann> jimmy51_home: glxinfo will have the info you need
[02:41] <nejode> ign0ramus: it looks like a QT MidnightCommander... but can do almost anything with it!
[02:41] <arkygeek> nejode: thx for the tip.  Krusader looks perfect.  Love it!  g2g (2:41am here)  take care everyone :-)
[02:41] <apachelogger> nejode: it is Qt
[02:41] <genii> DarkTan: Maybe it's not bad but just wrong timing or so
[02:41] <ign0ramus> later arkygeek
[02:42] <jimmy51_home> dwidmann: it spit out a lot off stuff.  does that mean it's enabled?
[02:42] <ign0ramus> nejode: still checking it out... is there a way to get rid of the split screen though?
[02:42] <dwidmann> jimmy51_home: depends what that stuff says, I think the line to pay attention to is "direct rendering ="
[02:42] <apachelogger> jimmy51_home: glxinfo | grep direct
[02:43] <jimmy51_home> direct rendering: yes
[02:43] <DarkTan> ok, it passed the first 4 tests, i am impatient, i will now try to install
[02:43] <nejode> I doubt it, it's like a Norton/Midnight commander... split views
[02:43] <genii> DarkTan: My money is on it going past the point it failed at previously
[02:43] <nejode> ...leaving too... see ya
[02:43] <jimmy51_home> looks like it's working
[02:43] <jimmy51_home> :)
[02:44] <DarkTan> what is ACPI?
[02:44] <genii> DarkTan: power management features
[02:44] <apachelogger> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ACPI
[02:44] <DarkTan> should i force enable it? my bos is 1998
[02:44] <DarkTan> bios*
[02:45] <juanantonio> ignoramus, if you sent me something about how forwarding ports, I didn't receive it
[02:45] <genii> DarkTan: Yes
[02:46] <cuznt> try protforward.com
[02:46] <cuznt> riiiiiighjt
[02:46]  * DarkTan reboots
[02:46] <cuznt> portforward.con
[02:46] <DarkTan> how do i do that?
[02:46] <cuznt> ,cOM
[02:46] <genii> DarkTan: Otherwise you will have to manually power it off by button each time after leaving kubuntu
[02:46] <kyrksaet1rora> ign0ramus:  thanks, got wicd in KDE4 up
[02:46] <DarkTan> ahh, that would be why my older than time laptop refuses to turn off
[02:47] <genii> DarkTan: By a line in the grub loading line like:      acpi=force
[02:47] <ign0ramus> kyrksaet1rora: it's working well?
[02:47] <kyrksaet1rora> ign0ramus:  yep, got the gui up and running, and got it config'd to the wep pass on my home network
[02:47] <kyrksaet1rora> ign0ramus:  and obviously the connection is working ;)
[02:47] <DarkTan> before or after the "--" as the end of the current line?
[02:47] <genii> Before
[02:48] <ign0ramus> kyrksaet1rora: sweet.  I really like wicd, and there was talk of including it in Intrepid by default, but the Ubuntu devs put so much time and effort into the respective network managers
[02:48] <DarkTan> will i still get the error telling my to use acpi=force if i added the line?
[02:49] <dr_willis> acpi=off is a kernel boot option.  what -- are you refering to?
[02:49] <peer`> ign0ramus:  I will admit i like knetworkmanager's look better but wicd does already feel a bit better. for some reason knetworkmanager never showed signal strength above 50%
[02:49] <genii> DarkTan: Possibly, I forget. Been a while since I used it
[02:49] <genii> dr_willis: The grub load line
[02:49] <DarkTan> @ dr_willis, the grub load line
[02:49]  * DarkTan got beat to it
[02:50] <ign0ramus> peer`: yeah, i'm for whatever works better, and in my case (and a few others here, apparently), that is wicd.  glad it worked for you guys, too!
[02:50]  * genii hands dr_willis a coffee
[02:50] <dr_willis> can ya paste what line ya got now? normally at the end ya just append apci=off         I oftenhave to also use 'noapic' on some problem machines with apci=off
[02:51] <genii> dr_willis: He doesn't have anything yet, he's in process of installing
[02:51] <DarkTan> no, i'm going a fresh install, my comp is from 1998, i built is last night out of parts from my closet
[02:52] <genii> So whatever defaults the livecd has on it's install line for kernel loading
[02:52] <jimmy51_home> what do i do so that i don't have to enable compiz with compiz --replace every boot?
[02:52] <genii> jimmy51_home: Session manager
[02:52] <dr_willis> jimmy51_home,  or install that fusion-icon utility. (a must have anyway I think. :)
[02:52] <dr_willis> or both
[02:53] <jimmy51_home> is session manager in the kmenu somwehere?  i don't see it under settings, system or utilities
[02:54] <genii> jimmy51_home: Kmenu ... System Settings... Advanced tab on the top
[02:55] <KoumoriDarkTan> well, it appears to be working, my progress bar only shows 33% though
[02:55] <KoumoriDarkTan> but it does go through each partition
[02:55] <KoumoriDarkTan> what happened to my name?
[02:57] <genii> KoumoriDarkTan: You logged off/logged back on.... this name seems to be the default for this logon
[02:57] <KoumoriDarkTan> no, it's a second nick. I'm still logged in to
[02:57] <Colonel_Panic> OK it's time to do this thing. Anything important I shoiuld know before I get started resizing my root partition?
[02:57] <juanantonio> What about Kubuntu firewalling my aMule?
[02:57] <jimmy51_home> dr_willis, genii:  i see two options, compiz with a wrapper, or just compiz.  does it matter (what do you do)?
[02:57] <KoumoriDarkTan> ok, installing base system, it look like everything works
[02:58] <KoumoriDarkTan> thanks for the help
[03:03] <Colonel_Panic> I have 3 partitions on the drive: one 10GB partition (mounted at /), one 489 GB partition (mountecd at /home) and a 1GB (swap) partition
[03:03] <Colonel_Panic> I'm about to resize the root partition to, I dunno, maybe 50GB
[03:04] <genii> Colonel_Panic: You should be fine :) Just don't poweroff or something in the middle of it
[03:04] <Colonel_Panic> shold I maybe make the root part bigger?
[03:05] <Colonel_Panic> should I enlarge the swap file too, while I'm at it?
[03:05] <genii> Colonel_Panic: 50Gb is how much room of the drive space?
[03:05] <Colonel_Panic> 10%
[03:05] <K`zan> Anyone know how I can get WPA-psk working, only option iin system settings is WEP :-/.  TIA!
[03:05] <genii> Colonel_Panic: Swap file size should be twice RAM size or better
[03:05] <Colonel_Panic> ok
[03:06] <genii> Colonel_Panic: 100Gb would be better
[03:06] <ign0ramus> genii: most people say that, but if you have more RAM, wouldn't you need less swap?
[03:06] <Colonel_Panic> so 100 GB for root and 20 GB for swap?
[03:06] <ign0ramus> genii: 20GB swap?
[03:06] <genii> ign0ramus: Ideally but thats not how it tends to work in real operation
[03:07] <genii> Colonel_Panic: You have how much RAM?
[03:07] <K`zan> wpa supplicant is installed?!?
[03:07] <genii> ign0ramus: 20Gb is a bit overkill for sure :)
[03:07] <ign0ramus> genii: i have 1gb ram and 1gb swap, and swap usage never goes above like 15-20%... is it just my config?
[03:08] <genii> ign0ramus: Probably, yeah. I have abox with 8Gb ram and uses swap quite often
[03:08] <ign0ramus> genii: wow.
[03:08] <ign0ramus> genii: Kubuntu recognizes 8GB RAM?
[03:08] <genii> Colonel_Panic: 20Gb of swap is too much. Make it twice your RAM size, whatever that is
[03:09] <genii> ign0ramus: The 64 bit version, eys
[03:09] <NickPresta> ign0ramus, I have 2GB of RAM and 2GB of swap and I've never, ever, used more than a couple hundred MB of swap...
[03:09] <peer`> 20gb swap? holy gigabytes batman
[03:09] <Colonel_Panic> OK then 8GB swap
[03:09] <Colonel_Panic> what if I install more RAM?
[03:09] <peer`> 8GB swap is so freakishly huge it shouldn't matter
[03:09] <ign0ramus> NickPresta: yeah, me neither... that's why i wonder about people saying to partition like a 6GB swap.  seems wasted to me...
[03:09] <Colonel_Panic> ok
[03:09] <genii> Colonel_Panic: Swap size is only a guideline
[03:10] <genii> Colonel_Panic: It will use it when you run out of physical memory to use
[03:10] <peer`> I have a 1gb swap and I doubt I'm using a lot of it
[03:10] <NickPresta> ign0ramus, yeah. I only have 2GB of swap because I setup these partitions age ago when I only had 512MB of RAM. :)
[03:10] <ign0ramus> NickPresta: heh :)
[03:10] <Colonel_Panic> I have a big storage drive, and will soon have a 4TB RAID array, so storage space is not an issue
[03:10] <genii> If you want to run out of swap size try this guys: do a diff on 2 DVD iso images
[03:10] <jimmy51_home> if i'm in parted, and i've selected /dev/sda, how do i partition sda4 and format to ext3?
[03:10] <NickPresta> genii, any two images?
[03:10] <ign0ramus> genii: i'll take your word for it  ;)
[03:10] <genii> It wants to load both iso into ram before comparing them
[03:10] <Colonel_Panic> ok here goes
[03:11] <NickPresta> genii, if that is the case, I'll take your word for it :)
[03:11] <Colonel_Panic> keep r00ting for me while I do this
[03:11] <jimmy51_home> i really really don't want to mess this up.
[03:11] <Colonel_Panic> oh sure you do!
[03:11] <Colonel_Panic> oy want to live on the edge, don
[03:11] <Colonel_Panic> don't you?
[03:11] <jimmy51_home> mkfs /dev/sda4 etx3 ?
[03:11] <ign0ramus> jimmy51_home: i wasn't really following you before... your partitions are not mounted, right?
[03:12] <jimmy51_home> not sda4
[03:12] <jimmy51_home> it's "unknown" ... i've never set it up as anything
[03:12] <Colonel_Panic> ok play time is over, time to buckle down to business
[03:12] <jimmy51_home> mkfs ext3 /dev/sda4 is my guess, based on the help.
[03:12] <Colonel_Panic> I'll be bock.,..
[03:12] <genii> jimmy51_home: sudo mkfs.ext3 /dev/sda4
[03:13] <jimmy51_home> genii: without being in parted?
[03:13] <jimmy51_home> ah, i see
[03:13] <jimmy51_home> thanks genii
[03:13] <genii> jimmy51_home: You're welcome
[03:14] <jimmy51_home> this is sweet.  my wife's gonna be jealous of KDE4 tricked out with compiz.  she'll think it's pretty and want it on her machine.  thanks for the support
[03:16] <K`zan> Sigh, never mind, it looks like wpa /network manager is broken.  If I want WPA looks like I am stuck with wincrap.   Thanks anyway folks.  Maybe next release it might work :-(.
[03:17] <jimmy51_home> gotta reboot
[03:17] <genii> Too bad he left before knowing if he had wlassistant installed
[03:18] <ign0ramus> anyone know how to stop ksystraycmd from docking firefox?  The man pages offer little
[03:26]  * dsmith_ still don;t like kde4
[03:26] <genii> Me either
[03:27] <dwidmann> Well, half of it's started again from scratch ... it still needs a lot of work
[03:27] <dsmith_> kde4?
[03:27] <dwidmann> A lot of the pieces to the puzzle, yes.
[03:27] <dsmith_> ok
[03:27] <dsmith_> yea, its still too new
[03:27] <dsmith_> reminds me of vista too much
[03:34] <Makuseru> Does anyone know how to select a subtitle track in an MKV when converting with mencoder?
[03:35] <dwidmann> Makuseru: maybe with -sid ??
[03:36] <Makuseru> dwidmann: what section would that be in under the manual?
[03:36] <dwidmann> Makuseru: dunno, pull up the manual and type "/sid" and hit "n" a few times and you'll get there though
[03:37] <Makuseru> dwidmann: thank you very much
[03:48] <Makuseru> dwidmann: I tried to add that to my line that converts to the correct size for my mp3 player, but now it doesnt work. Before it was "mencoder -oac mp3lame -lameopts abr:br=192 -srate 44100 -ovc lavc -lavcopts vcodec=mpeg1video:vbitrate=200 -vf scale=320:240 -ofps 25 -of mpeg  -o OUTPUT INPUT " and it worked fine, but then i changed it to "mencoder -oac mp3lame -lameopts abr:br=192 -srate 44100 -ovc lavc -lavcopts vcodec=mpeg1video:vbitrate=200
[03:48] <Makuseru> -vf scale=320:240 -ofps 25 -of mpeg -sid <1> -o OUTPUT INPUT " and now it doesnt work, any am i doing that correctly? I guess not since it isn't working?
[03:49] <dwidmann> Makuseru: remove the <>
[03:50] <Makuseru> dwidmann: i remove them and it says "you can not set a section as a conversion type"
[03:51] <dwidmann> hm, weird
[03:51] <dwidmann> I'm no pro with it, so I think I'll stop now.
[03:52] <Makuseru> dwidmann: alright, thanks anyway
[04:11] <jimmy51_home> how can i reset the main panel to the default settings?  i've goobered it up bad.
[04:11] <jimmy51_home> (kde4)
[04:17] <root> well I'm repartitioning now
[04:17] <C_Panic> well I'm repartitioning now
[04:18] <C_Panic> I'm a little nervous
[04:18] <jimmy51_home> good luck
[04:18] <C_Panic> hey genii
[04:18] <jimmy51_home> for posterity:  Alt+F2, "kquitapp plasma && rm ~/.kde4/share/config/plasma* && plasma"
[04:19] <jimmy51_home> someone in #kde answered
[04:19] <C_Panic> I've never used PartMagic before, and I did something that I'm a little concerned about
[04:20] <C_Panic> I tried to resize my sda3 partition (/home) and I told it to go ahead and do this without moving it anywhere
[04:20] <C_Panic> PM worked on it for awhile and then finished. Afterward, it appeared that nothing had changedc
[04:23] <C_Panic> After a bit of messing around, I figured out how to get it to resize and move my partitions. I did this without actually doing anything. Once I got all the sizes how I wanted them, I cleared the task list, then clicked each partition in order, typing the exact sizes I wanted and moving them into the freespace one after another.
[04:24] <ubuntu> can I install kubuntu 8.04 over kubuntu 7.04
[04:25] <LastSmurai> can I install kubuntu 8.04 over kubuntu 7.04
[04:25] <C_Panic> Finally, after arranging them how I want them, I told it to perform all tasks in the queue. There were only 3 operations to do, and it started doing them immediately.
[04:25] <C_Panic> It's still working now. I'm keeping my fingers crossed.
[04:25] <LastSmurai> hello anybody home
[04:26] <dwidmann> LastSmurai: fresh install or upgrade?
[04:26] <C_Panic> LastSmurai: You want to install Gutsy over Feisty? Why not just upgrade?
[04:27] <LastSmurai> both r fiesty... 7.04 and 8.04. I want to upgrade to ver. 8.04 from 7.04....how to do it?
[04:27] <dwidmann> c_panic: safe upgrade path requires upgrading to gutsy, then to hardy (heck, in a week or two, you can add intrepid to the end of that also). So long as the /home is on a separate partition a fresh install will probably be easier
[04:29] <LastSmurai> i have made 29 G partition for /home or ROOT, 2 gb for SWAP and 1 GB for boot when I was installing Kubuntu 7.04
[04:30] <l3r1k> Hello all.. I'm trying to install adobe flash player 10 in Firefox... I've tried both downloading it via synaptic and via the adobe download site and restarted firefox... But nothing works!
[04:30] <dwidmann> LastSmurai: so /home isn't separate? ... rats, have anywhere good to back it up to?
[04:30] <LastSmurai> I have installed many upgrades through sudo command in konsole..now i have to do it again?
[04:31] <dwidmann> LastSmurai: you can back up what you have installed
[04:31] <LastSmurai> how ?
[04:31] <dwidmann> LastSmurai: dpkg --list | grep ^ii.* | cut -d ' ' -f 3 | tr '\n' ' ' > packagelistbackup
[04:33] <LastSmurai> what good would it bring...Oh yes I have also imported my outlook e-mails in kontact...is there any way i can access gnome tooo?
[04:33] <dwidmann> LastSmurai: so long as you keep and/or backup your /home folder, that won't be lost
[04:35] <arrrghhh> so k3b can't burn m4a files to an audio disc... but brasero can?!?  this is disappointing.
[04:36] <LastSmurai> hey guys why come my amrok does not play mp3 files?
[04:37] <dwidmann> LastSmurai: You can make it play those files, you'll need to install the mp3 decoder first though ... there are legal issues surrounding it
[04:37] <dwidmann> arrrghhh: do you have libk3b3-extracodecs installed?
[04:37] <arrrghhh> lemme check.
[04:38] <arrrghhh> LastSmurai, kubuntu-restricted-extras is a meta-package of all the 'non-free' as in free speech stuff ubuntu can't include by default (java, flash, mp3 etc)
[04:40] <arrrghhh> dwidmann, yes i already had libk3b2-extracodecs installed.
[04:42] <dwidmann> arrrghhh: it might need the "transcode" program to be able to do it, do you have that?
[04:46] <LastSamurai> dwidmann...i am newbie or lame to linux...but the sudo command helped me through internet
[04:47] <LastSamurai> how can i install the mp3 decoder from kubuntu CD...any suggesstions?
[04:48] <arrrghhh> LastSamurai, did you not read what i told you?
[04:49] <arrrghhh> dwidmann, i just installed transcode.  i'll try it again.
[04:49] <arrrghhh> still didn't work...
[04:50] <arrrghhh> it's just weird that brasero (under kde) will transcode w/o any problems.
[04:50] <LastSamurai> arrrghhh...i am laaaammmmee...what part u did not understand
[04:50] <arrrghhh> LastSamurai, what part did you not understand?  i told you what package to install.
[04:50] <NickPresta> !mp3
[04:50] <arrrghhh> that works too.
[04:51] <LastSamurai> tell me how man
[04:51] <NickPresta> LastSamurai, we can only tell you how to fish. We can't catch it for you. :)
[04:51] <LastSamurai> how to install packages...i am really a new guy...i dont know how i am chattin through IRC
[04:51] <arrrghhh> LastSamurai, open adept package manager.... install kubuntu-restricted-extras.  or sudo aptitude install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[04:52] <NickPresta> !adept | LastSamurai
[04:52] <arrrghhh> LastSamurai, beats the heck outta me, i can't help you if you don't even know how you're doing what you are doing currently...
[04:52] <LastSamurai> sorry arrrghhh...
[04:53] <arrrghhh> LastSamurai, essentially if you can't help yourself, why should we help you?
[04:53] <LastSamurai> but dont get angry man...u know if  a baby does not know how to walk until the parents dont help the baby lift up
[04:53] <LastSamurai> ok man...i think i should not ask u guys
[04:54] <arrrghhh> LastSamurai, and i would have more sympathy to your ignorance if you were willing to help yourself.
[04:54] <LastSamurai> ok man done...
[04:55] <ralpho> Check out my 8.10 desktop    http://www.lynucs.org/index.php?screen_id=80642902048fea3b2a4f2a&p=screen
[04:55] <NickPresta> LastSamurai, if you want to be successful with Linux (and anything in general) you need to learn how to read and follow directions.
[04:55] <NickPresta> ralpho, neat, but #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter
[04:56] <LastSamurai> ok NickPresta...i would do that
[04:56] <arrrghhh> ralpho, i am curious, is that a widget that shows the cpu info?  looks like conky but prettier lol
[04:56] <ralpho>  kd4 can run superkaramba widgets
[04:57] <ralpho> and apple ones
[04:57] <ralpho> cool
[04:57] <arrrghhh> ralpho, i know... i was asking what that cpu monitor was a widget or what...
[04:57] <ralpho> a superskaramba widget without superkaramba
[04:58] <LastSamurai> dudes....sudo work. ... HAHAHAHA
[04:58] <arrrghhh> lol k
[04:58] <ralpho> oxygen is the widget
[04:59] <arrrghhh> thanks.  i will check out kde4 again shortly i'm sure... intrepid comes with it by default, yes?
[04:59] <LastSamurai> dudes any way i can also have a gnome in kubuntu
[04:59] <ralpho> yes
[05:00] <arrrghhh> LastSamurai, gnome and kde are separate window managers.  their respective apps can run in either environment, but you have to logout and switch between kde and gnome if you want a diff environment...
[05:00] <NickPresta> LastSamurai, you can have any mythical creatures you want in KDE ;)
[05:00] <ralpho> intrepid is the best os in the world dont care what anyone says
[05:00] <arrrghhh> ralpho, lol.  that's... cocky.
[05:00] <LastSamurai> man i have KDE enviroment...how to install gnome also so i can switch to gnome or kde
[05:01] <arrrghhh> LastSamurai, install the ubuntu-desktop package.  then you can logout and select a diff. window manager from the login screen.
[05:02] <LastSamurai> arrrghhh...any sudo command to install ubuntu-desktop package? SORRY !
[05:02] <arrrghhh> LastSamurai, uhm... do you know what sudo is?  or what the commands you are running do?
[05:02] <ralpho> wait till this gets wide spread usage its so stable and this is the freaking beta.
[05:03] <arrrghhh> ralpho, it has always gotten better with every release i've used.  can't say that for microshaft.
[05:03] <arrrghhh> kde4 was far from stable last time i used it on my machine.
[05:04] <LastSamurai> no man...i just know that when i needed firefox...i went to their website...i told me to follow the instructions in konsole and get it installed...then i found many things the same way and installed it through SUDO
[05:05] <arrrghhh> LastSamurai, ok... so sudo gives you "super-user" access - as in root access.  that's all SUDO does.  it makes the command you are running run with "root" access.
[05:06] <arrrghhh> so if you do sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop - this will run "aptitude" with the command "install" and what package to install?  well "ubuntu-desktop" of course.
[05:06] <arrrghhh> tell me i'm not just wasting my... well not breath but time i guess would be the thing i'd be wasting.
[05:06] <ralpho> I have a crap ati 200m and a crap amd laptop in a week no crash and i have as you can see everythibg running
[05:08] <ralpho> how ever there is a kde 4 learning curve.
[05:09] <LastSamurai> OK now i got it man....no u r not wasting your time arrrghhh...but u r wasting your brain to teach me. So nice of you to help a guy like me. THANX.
[05:09] <arrrghhh> i'm not wasting my brain so long as you're actually absorbing what i'm telling you and you're actually reading links that people send you.
[05:10] <LastSamurai> yes
[05:11] <LastSamurai> dear arrghhh...where r u from man...your english does not seems to be amarican
[05:11] <krugx> ralpho: learning curve? it seems pretty intuitive to me
[05:11] <LastSamurai> wait...i am loggin off...
[05:11] <arrrghhh> LastSamurai, why would you say that?  not bein crude enough for you?
[05:11] <arrrghhh> krugx, i think he means vs kde3...
[05:11] <krugx> well if youve used kde3 youll know what i mean
[05:11] <LastSamurai> heheheh
[05:12] <ralpho> krugx: wait till you do someting as simple as delete the clock and try to put it back
[05:12] <ralpho> oh you can use a widget but no date
[05:12] <krugx> hmm yes.. i see where youre coming from
[05:12] <arrrghhh> i thought it was pretty different from kde3.
[05:13] <krugx> yes plasma takes a bit to get used to but the apps are certainly wellpolished
[05:13] <krugx> except for konqueror atm
[05:13] <ralpho> oh its worth it
[05:14] <arrrghhh> plasma wouldn't load for me last time i used kde4.  which was... 4.1.
[05:14] <ralpho> i like simple drag to resize widgets but dont forget to lovk them
[05:14] <ralpho> lock
[05:15] <krugx> yeah the dashboard effect is cute aswell
[05:15] <ralpho> when i changed from kde 2 to 3 i felt the same way
[05:16] <ralpho> i thought in a year there would be kde4 back then its been a long wait
[05:16] <christian_> hola
[05:16] <christian_> hola
[05:17] <christian_> necesito ayuda con mi ubuntu
[05:17] <christian_> alguien que me pueda ayudar
[05:18] <\Kira> in dolphin, when I click on a superkaramba python script it turns my cursor into a targeting arrow and when I click it takes a PDF screenshot and causes the computer speaker to beep twice. Whats going on?
[05:19] <christian_> in spanish
[05:19] <NickPresta> !es | christian_
[05:19] <christian_> gracias
[05:29] <christian_> in inglish, my sistem is very low, lento help my
[05:43] <b0unce> hey hey
[05:44] <b0unce> anyone talking on here?
[06:00] <b0unce> So uh....
[06:00] <b0unce> is everyone here bots?
[06:01] <Waldo_> I'm not, last I checked
[06:02] <b0unce> just seems quite here
[06:03] <b0unce> 1st time here actaully
[06:03] <Waldo_> same here
[06:03] <b0unce> yeah
[06:03] <b0unce> I suppose you use kubuntu
[06:03] <Waldo_> yeah
[06:03] <b0unce> Have you used any other distros?
[06:03] <Waldo_> Just added it an hour or so
[06:04] <Waldo_> Used plain Ubuntu a bit before that
[06:04] <b0unce> Yeah I used that ahwile ago
[06:04] <b0unce> The one thing about the untu distros is that they just work
[06:05] <b0unce> I actaully taking a break form gentoo right now
[06:05] <b0unce> They need to get some tings together
[06:05] <Waldo_> I only downloaded Ubuntu on sunday, actually
[06:06] <Waldo_> Which makes me crazy new, I guess
[06:06] <b0unce> yeah
[06:06] <b0unce> ha yeah
[06:06] <b0unce> all good though
[06:06] <b0unce> welcome to open source
[06:06] <b0unce> lotso free stuff
[06:06] <Waldo_> Free is always awesome
[06:07] <Waldo_> Doesn't hurt that kubuntu is way nicer to look at than XP, either
[06:07] <b0unce> yeah, it'll be faster also
[06:07] <b0unce> it's a good nix type to start with
[06:08] <b0unce> and go back to in my case
[06:09] <b0unce> i guess benefit 1 is xchat is free for linux
[06:09] <Waldo_> heh
[06:09] <Waldo_> I'm still trying to get used to Konversation
[06:10] <Waldo_> I was already nice and used to Pidgin
[06:10] <Voyager529> hey all
[06:10] <thismamacooks200> ﻿if I run a repeating playlist or a long video in *any* media player, it stops playing and the player eventually stop playing sound at all until I close and restart it. I also have the same problem with audio in firefox. Games also will not make sound if firefox or a media player are opened first.
[06:10] <b0unce> hey voyager
[06:10] <Waldo_> 'lo
[06:10] <Voyager529> question, if you've got a moment
[06:11] <Voyager529> I want to dual-boot this system
[06:11] <b0unce> this..do you have flashinstalled?
[06:11] <b0unce> If you dual boot do windows 1st
[06:11] <Voyager529> I have Windows installed and 13GBytes of unformatted space
[06:11] <b0unce> then nix on top,it's easier
[06:11] <Voyager529> when I do the install
[06:12] <b0unce> yes
[06:12] <Voyager529> that was the plan
[06:12] <b0unce> and that enough room
[06:12] <Waldo_> I just installed with wubi
[06:12] <Voyager529> ...enough for Ubuntu and Unreal Tournament 2004 =)
[06:12] <b0unce> make your swap space about 1.5-2 times your RAM
[06:12] <Waldo_> But if you've got unformatted space, your way should work better
[06:12] <b0unce> Voyager...play that on windoze side
[06:13] <Voyager529> lol
[06:13] <Voyager529> I'm test driving
[06:13] <Voyager529> for a friend with a Mac and no copy of windows
[06:13] <b0unce> Man i've been through so many distros, you'll eventually shed through a ton
[06:13] <thismamacooks200> b0unce: yes, I have the official flash I think, the firefox plug in. lemme check...   libflashplayer.so, Shockwave Flash 9.0 r124, Shockwave Flash, FutureSplash Player
[06:14] <Waldo_> While the questions are flying...
[06:14] <Voyager529> I then choose "Guided - use the largest continuous free space", and life is all good?
[06:14] <b0unce> thismamacooks...do you have qt-4* package installed?
[06:14] <Waldo_> Anyone here know how to make links in Konversation open in Firefox, instead of Konqueror?
[06:15] <b0unce> voyager...yes
[06:15] <b0unce> the ez way
[06:15] <Voyager529> The partition tables of the following devices are changed:/ SCSI1 (0,0,0) (sda)/The following partitions are going to be formatted:/ partition #5 of SCSI1 (0,0,0) (sda) as ext3/ partition #6 of SCSI1 (0,0,0) (sda) as swap
[06:15] <Voyager529> that looks right?
[06:15] <b0unce> wht about a root partition?
[06:16] <b0unce> or is that what it showed you?
[06:16] <Voyager529> that's what it showed me
[06:16] <b0unce> mmmkay
[06:16] <thismamacooks200> b0unce: "﻿qt-4" in adept shows no results, so I don't think I have it
[06:16] <b0unce> partiotion
[06:17] <C_Panic> I have a few questions about KDE4
[06:17] <b0unce> thismamacooks..qt-core installed and x11 maybe what you need.
[06:17] <C_Panic> how's the backward compatibility for KDE3 apps?
[06:17] <b0unce> KDE3 and KDE4 apps are compatib;e
[06:18] <b0unce> sumwhat
[06:18] <b0unce> lol
[06:18] <Voyager529> b0unce: ...just click install and wait? Windows install will be safe?
[06:18] <C_Panic> OK what's this "plasma" I keep hearing about?
[06:18] <b0unce> anything that ran on kde3 will run on kde4
[06:18] <b0unce> plasma is cool
[06:18] <b0unce> and if you have a decent lcd will see the effects
[06:18] <C_Panic> what is it, actually?
[06:19] <C_Panic> my main computer has an excellent monitor
[06:19] <b0unce> It's a collection of display packages for kkde4
[06:19] <b0unce> that make apps look prettty nice
[06:19] <C_Panic> like compiz or something?
[06:19] <b0unce> I personnaly have it
[06:19] <b0unce> sorta yes
[06:19] <C_Panic> oh, so it's a skinning thing?
[06:19] <b0unce> has it's own screen savers and windows loos
[06:19] <b0unce> looks
[06:20] <b0unce> stuff like that
[06:20] <b0unce> mainly a skinning thing
[06:20] <C_Panic> I personally bhate the look of Vista
[06:20] <b0unce> yeah
[06:20] <Waldo_> Vista is kind of gross
[06:20] <C_Panic> It looks like somebody poured a quart of corn syrup over every onscreen element
[06:20] <b0unce> voyager..windows will be safe
[06:20] <Voyager529> w00tness
[06:21] <thismamacooks200> b0unce: "﻿qt-core" also shows no results either. (as in [X]not installed, ﻿[X]installed, ﻿[X]upgradable) I must be missing a repository?
[06:21] <C_Panic> plasma doesn't look like that, does it?
[06:21] <b0unce> you will have a pre boot option to pick windoze or nix
[06:21] <Waldo_> Reminds me of XP with everything overdone
[06:21] <C_Panic> I mean, if it does then I don't want it
[06:21] <C_Panic> is it an option for KDE4?
[06:22] <b0unce> it's just an option, you can configure kde howwver
[06:22] <b0unce> u want
[06:22] <C_Panic> I read something about KDE4 having a weird way of handling the desktop
[06:22] <C_Panic> like, all the icons are stored in a certain area or something...
[06:22] <b0unce> ive tried lots and i like kde
[06:23] <C_Panic> and you can't just click on them to open the apps
[06:23] <b0unce> qt-core if not there won't run much media
[06:23] <b0unce> forgive me as I havent ran ubuntu/k in awhile
[06:23] <thismamacooks200> ﻿all the icons are stored in a certain area? that's insane. the proper way to do things is spread them all other the whole file system
[06:23] <b0unce> you can get rid of that
[06:23] <C_Panic> they're sort of coralled to a certain space on the desktop or something
[06:23] <C_Panic> or so I have read
[06:24] <b0unce> and move them to only show at your "bar" when open
[06:24] <b0unce> no they are lots of places
[06:24] <b0unce> they are in your filesystem amager
[06:24] <C_Panic> I wonder what this reviewer was talking about
[06:24] <b0unce> manager
[06:24] <C_Panic> I mean on the desktop
[06:24] <b0unce> all linux has "basically" the same file system
[06:25] <thismamacooks200> ﻿b0unce: so I don't need qt-core?
[06:25] <b0unce> right
[06:25] <C_Panic> KDE4 introduces a different way of dealing with desktop shortcuts
[06:25] <b0unce> you do need qt-core
[06:25] <C_Panic> ...supposedly, according to this reviewer
[06:25] <b0unce> kde4 has alot of possibilies
[06:27] <thismamacooks200> b0unce: apt-get reports "E: Couldn't find package qt-core". so has ﻿qt-core been renamed?
[06:27] <b0unce> also thismamacooks..make sure you have the most updated x-11 apps, but ubuntu I think is pretty good about that
[06:27] <b0unce> it may not be in the ubuntu repository
[06:27] <b0unce> unfortunately
[06:27] <C_Panic> I'm considering upgrading to the KDE4 version of Hardy
[06:28] <C_Panic> Damn, this repartitioning process takes a long-ass time
[06:29] <stuart> Hey guys, I am a complete noob how do you change your default browser I've just clicked on a link with and its opened konquere instead of ff3
[06:29] <b0unce> thismamacooks...it sounds more like an x11 problem now that I thin about it
[06:29] <b0unce> can't remember
[06:29] <Waldo_> dunno stuart, but I'm here wondering the same thing
[06:29] <b0unce> ff3 has an option in its advanced settings actaully
[06:30] <thismamacooks200> It seems I have x11 version 7.3
[06:33] <Waldo_> b0unce, you mean the default browser option?
[06:33] <b0unce> yes
[06:33] <Waldo_> it's already set as default
[06:34] <b0unce> does it act like default
[06:34] <Waldo_> Yeah, but IRC links still open in konqueror
[06:34] <Waldo_> think I might have it
[06:35] <Waldo_> Fixed!
[06:35] <b0unce> cool
[06:35] <Waldo_> Found an option in the main system settings
[06:35] <b0unce> Yeah certain things will go to konq if your a KDE user
[06:35] <b0unce> I forgot why
[06:36] <Waldo_> Nothing like an opinionated operating system lol
[06:39] <C_Panic> "opinionated" LOL
[06:40] <thismamacooks200> ﻿optionated maybe
[06:40] <Waldo_> I should get some HAL 9000 sound clips for system sounds
[06:40] <C_Panic> I used to have lots of movie and TV computer sounds on my system
[06:41] <Waldo_> My XP is all Star Trek computer sounds right now
[06:41] <C_Panic> for error messages, I had Linguo the Grammar Robot from The Simpsons, yelling "ERROR! ERROR!"
[06:41] <Waldo_> Before that it was Star Wars sounds
[06:42] <Waldo_> My Mac remains resolutely silent
[06:42] <C_Panic> I also had the computer from Wargames saying "Would you like to play a game?"
[06:42] <Waldo_> nice
[06:42] <C_Panic> All the nodes onmy home network are now named after fictional computers from books, movies and TV
[06:43] <C_Panic> this machine is called "Gibson"
[06:43] <C_Panic> my fileserver is called Wintermute
[06:43] <C_Panic> my WiFi network SSID is Skynet
[06:43] <Waldo_> All of mine are named "Spiffy (computer type)", but since they all basically pretend the others don't exist it's wasted
[06:44] <thismamacooks200> well, I need to sleep now
[06:44] <Waldo_> night
[06:44] <C_Panic> my laptops are called V-Ger, SCMODS and FUCKUP (a computer from Robert Anton Wilson's Illuminatus Trilogy)
[06:45] <C_Panic> I need a name for my networked printer
[06:46] <C_Panic> My next laptop is going to be called Bambleweeny57
[06:48] <Waldo_> Maybe kubuntu and my Mac will actually see each other on the network
[06:48] <stuart> Sorry guys I'm in the process of getting ready for work so I got one last question you know 8.10 is coming out will I need to reinstall the whole os
[06:48] <Waldo_> dunno, but I found the answer to your web browser question
[06:49] <stuart> c
[06:49] <stuart> cool waldo is it the box saying about default browser in firefox
[06:49] <Waldo_> Main menu -> system settings -> Default Applications
[06:50] <stuart> Cheers Waldo
[06:50] <Waldo_> Then select "Web Browser", select the "in the following browser" option, and pick Firefox from the list
[06:50] <Waldo_> no prob
[06:52] <eagles0513875> !ndiswrapper | deftone
[06:52] <eagles0513875> deftone: see if that link helps u out
[06:52] <mpenales> hi
[06:53] <silver> hi
[06:53] <Waldo_> Hmmmm, "SMB and NFS servers are not installed on this machine, to enable file sharing the servers must be installed" Guess it's not gonna be as easy as I'd hoped :P
[06:55] <stuart> It would be boring if everything was easy waldo
[06:56] <Waldo_> true
[06:57] <Waldo_> at least it explicitly states why
[06:58] <Waldo_> unlike XP, where I jumped through hoops (flaming hoops, no less), configured it like they said, and it still didn't work
[06:58] <stuart> there is that
[06:59] <stuart> my orginal question seems to be it will notify you when there is a new version and ask if you want to dowload and install
[07:00] <silver> hi pipol
[07:00] <Waldo_> 'lo
[07:00] <eagles0513875> !marvel
[07:00] <Waldo_> If I did that every time they asked, I'd never have time to do anything but upgrade things
[07:01] <Guest3465> hi people
[07:02] <stuart> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IntrepidUpgrades/Kubuntu
[07:02] <Guest3465> anybody there]
[07:02] <mojacko> hi
[07:03] <mojacko> any filipino?
[07:03] <deftone> How do i get 32bit drivers to work in the 64bit version of kubuntu??
[07:06] <mojacko> hi
[07:08] <mojacko> hi pipol..
[07:08] <mojacko> hi pipol
[07:08] <mojacko> who wants to chat???
[07:10] <mojacko> hi
[07:13] <Waldo_> sleep time, I'm out
[07:14] <mojacko> hi
[07:22] <mojacko> hi
[07:22] <mojacko> looking for friends
[07:22] <mojacko> looking for friends... partners??? hahahha...
[07:23] <longhai> hello
[07:23] <mojacko> hello pm me]
[07:26] <mojacko>  looking for friends... partners??? hahahha...
[07:28] <mojacko> looking for friends... partners??? hahahha...pm me
[07:34] <mojacko> looking for friends... partners??? hahahha...
[07:34] <mojacko> looking for friends... partners??? hahahha...
[07:35] <mojacko> looking for friends... partners??? hahahha...pm me
[07:38] <mojacko> looking for friends... partners??? hahahha...
[07:38] <C_Panic> uh-oh...
[07:38] <C_Panic> I think gparted just crashed!
[07:39] <mojacko> looking for friends... partners??? hahahha...
[07:39] <mojacko> looking for friends... partners??? hahahha...
[07:39] <mojacko> looking for friends... partners??? hahahha...
[07:40] <mojacko> looking for friends... partners??? hahahha...
[07:40] <mojacko> looking for friends... partners??? hahahha...
[07:40] <emilsedgh> !mods
[07:41] <emilsedgh> ah
[07:41] <emilsedgh> !ops
[07:44] <mojacko> hi ahadiel
[07:50] <mojacko> looking for friends... partners??? hahahha...
[07:54] <mojacko> looking for friends... partners??? hahahha...
[07:54] <emilsedgh> !repeat | mojacko
[07:54] <emilsedgh> !offtopic
[07:54] <emilsedgh> mojacko: ^
[07:55] <mojacko> im so sorry
[08:03] <mojacko> im new here at irc/ kubuntu
[08:09] <C_Panic> well I sem to have hit a snag
[08:09] <C_Panic> *seem*
[08:12] <C_Panic> GParted has resized my big /home partition, but it keeps crashing or quitting when trying to move the partition to the right so as to make room to grow the other partitions.
[08:13] <C_Panic> I don't know how I'm going to fix this.
[08:14] <cryingtux> hello
[08:14] <cryingtux> does anybody know when will gusty life span end?
[08:17] <mojacko> looking for friends... partners??? hahahha...
[08:17] <cryingtux> ?
[08:20] <mojacko> looking for friends... partners??? hahahha...
[08:23] <mojacko> looking for friends... partners??? hahahha...
[08:23] <jussi01> mojacko: enough now!
[08:31] <b0nn> hi all, I have a problem with xorg, I can no longer get atitvout to work as per http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=778385
[08:31] <b0nn> Im here to ask if/how I install the old xorg (which worked)
[08:32] <jussi01> b0nn: you have your old copy of xorg.conf? IIRC they are interchangeable
[08:32] <b0nn> hmm
[08:33] <b0nn> I cant see a backup
[08:33] <b0nn> I thought apt made a backup of such files
[08:36] <JackWinter> how to i reset my package database?  when i go to install a new package adept is showing the wrong description for it ?
[08:40] <JackWinter> never mind, man helped me :) apt-get clean
[09:13] <mojacko> hi pipol..
[09:13] <mojacko> im new here
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[09:15] <jussi01> sigh...
[09:17] <mojacko> im new here... can u entertain me
[09:17] <jussi01> mojacko: youve been told this is a support channel. please use #kubuntu-offtopic and consider this your last warning.
[09:18] <mojacko> damn..
[10:06] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[10:07] <scifaux> what up?
[10:07] <ActionParsnip> nm bro, just entering the same way I do everyday
[10:08] <ActionParsnip> does anybody know when is OOO3 destined to appear on the magical repos?
[10:26] <martinjh99> Morning - Is there a Asus EEE901 version of Kubuntu or will the standard install disc I have install once written to a USB Stick?
[10:27] <ActionParsnip> martinjh99: http://www.ubuntu-eee.com/
[10:28] <martinjh99> Seen that one - Might try it...  But I would love a KDE distro on it though ;)
[10:28] <ActionParsnip> martinjh99: then install kde
[10:28] <ActionParsnip> then
[10:28] <ActionParsnip> !purekde
[10:30] <martinjh99> Cool... Cheers
[11:46] <avihayb> !antivirus
[11:46] <FisherPrice> LOL
[11:47] <avihayb> ubottu is good, that's exacly what I needed
[11:51] <ActionParsnip> avihayb: ubottu saves time
[11:52] <avihayb> hell yhe, I just copy pasted the answer to someone who needed on another channle
[12:00] <rysiek> hi all
[12:01] <ActionParsnip1> hi rysiek
[12:01] <rysiek> I have played a bit and install xubuntu-desktop on kubuntu - and tht b0rked my GTK settings completely. I removed xubuntu-desktop and all xubuntu* and xfce* packages, but GTK is still borked (i.e. it doesn't use the gtk-qt-engine)
[12:01] <rysiek> I can't seem to find where can I change/fix that
[12:02] <rysiek> I remember there used to be something called "GTK Settings" in System Settings -> Appearance, but it's not there anymore
[12:03] <ActionParsnip1> rysiek: gimme a sec theres folders for this
[12:04] <ActionParsnip1> rysiek: http://linuxfud.wordpress.com/2007/02/14/how-to-reset-ubuntugnome-settings-to-defaults-without-re-installing/
[12:04] <ActionParsnip1> rysiek: the folders it says to rm, just rename them with mv
[12:04] <rysiek> yeah, thanks
[12:05] <ActionParsnip1> rysiek: then reboot
[12:05] <rysiek> erm... won't X restart do the trick?
[12:06] <rysiek> anywhoo, thanks, gtg
[12:06] <rysiek> cu all
[12:06] <ActionParsnip1> rysiek: ive always rebooted. you could try it
[12:26] <andy_> hmm. testing this irc client.
[12:28] <ActionParsnip1> andy_ seems ok
[12:29] <andy_> lol
[12:29] <andy_> well.. looking at settings
[12:31] <nero_> ,
[12:35] <manish> hi guys , there is something woring with my zimbra. Its not downloading the latest mails from yesterday. I think it is syncing the actions like deleting mails i deleted while offline but when it comes to downloading mails it is not doing so ... what do you think can be the reason and how can i correct it ....
[12:35] <admi> bonjour djourté
[12:36] <djourte> comment vas-tu
[12:37] <admi> bien
[12:37] <manish> has anybody faced a similar problem earlier.... Has it something to do with the mail download limits ... can i change them
[12:38] <manish> please help ... the net at my place is not working and i cant sit in the college for more than 15 more minutes ... 20 at the max i think
[12:40] <manish> can anybody see my post ... i am unsure whether it is visible or not
[12:41] <Dragnslcr> Yes, it is
[12:41] <simone> ciao
[12:42] <ActionParsnip1> manish: i can see it
[12:42] <manish> thanks for the rescue again ActionParsnip
[12:43] <manish> do u have any idea of what may be wrong.... with it as you and ginii were the one who solved my problem 3 days ago about reinstalling zimbra
[12:45] <manish> ActionParsnip: do you have any idea of what can be wrong........ with it as you and ginii were the one who solved my problem 3 days ago about reinstalling zimbra
[12:45] <ActionParsnip1> !info zimbra
[12:46] <manish> ActionParsnip: i am using KDE (Kubuntu)
[12:49] <manish> ActionParsnip1: you there .... do u have any idea of what may be wrong with it...
[12:49] <simone> !list
[12:54] <simone> ciao
[12:54] <simone> !list
[12:54] <Pici> !it | simone
[12:54] <manish>  there is something woring with my zimbra. Its not downloading the latest mails from yesterday. I think it is syncing the actions like deleting mails i deleted while offline but when it comes to downloading mails it is not doing so ... what do you think can be the reason and how can i correct it .... has anybody faced a similar problem earlier.... Has it something to do with the mail download limits ... can i change them
[13:02] <DexterF> !samba
[13:03] <ganxiaofei-kde> 有中国的用户吗
[13:04] <DexterF> ganxiaofei-kde: english channel
[13:05] <ganxiaofei-kde> I don't known how to use this
[13:07] <DexterF> ganxiaofei-kde: use what?
[13:07] <ganxiaofei-kde> this
[13:07] <DexterF> ...
[13:07] <ganxiaofei-kde> konversation
[13:08] <ganxiaofei-kde> where are you from
[13:08] <DexterF> ganxiaofei-kde: /join #<channelname> joins a channel, F5 gives you a search window where you can search for channels
[13:08] <DexterF> I'm german
[13:08] <ganxiaofei-kde> I'm a chinese
[13:10] <DexterF> ganxiaofei-kde: well, if you speak english a bit, ask whatever question you came for here, otherwise try a chinese speaking channel
[13:12] <ganxiaofei-kde> You are right
[13:18] <ganxiaofei-kde> May I ask you what is your job .an engineer ?
[13:19] <eagles0513875> ganxiaofei-kde: ?
[13:19] <Tm_T> Police I am
[13:19]  * Tm_T goes Judge Dredd -mode
[13:19] <eagles0513875> Tm_T: you mean we are
[13:19] <Tm_T> eagles0513875: no, not you
[13:20]  * eagles0513875 is.judge dredd jr 
[13:21] <ganxiaofei-kde> perhaps
[13:29] <ganxiaofei-kde> Is there anyone who have ever come to china
[13:30] <Pici> ganxiaofei-kde: Thats not really on-topic for this channel.  Perhaps #kubuntu-offtopic or #ubuntu-offtopic would be a better place to ask.
[13:31] <ganxiaofei-kde> But everyone here keep silence
[13:34] <eagles0513875> !inx
[13:39] <ubundom> here's a wierd OOo Calc backwards compatibility problem: when I swap between 2.4.1 and 3.0.0 I get formulas with EOMONTH() changed to org.openoffice.eomonth() ... any ideas ... anyone?
[13:39] <ubundom> WHoops, sorry, wrong channel!
[14:15] <mrunagi> !java
[14:24] <eagles0513875> are there any nasty dns bugs floating around in hardy
[14:25] <mrunagi> !8.10
[14:25] <mrunagi> haha i get it..........the names are in alphabetical order
[14:25] <Pici> :D
[14:25] <Pici> !codenames | mrunagi
[14:25] <mrunagi> feisty fawn, gutsy gibbon, hardy heron, intrepid ibex
[14:26] <Pici> eagles0513875: Not that I'm aware of, you can check launchpad though.
[14:26] <mrunagi> !cioverlay
[14:26] <mrunagi> does xubuntu have cioverlay turned on and composite off by default?
[14:27] <eagles0513875> Pici: cuz im having issues with dns not resolving right im not sure if that would be due to me having bind partiallyl configured but when i ran a script that cleared out dns things started functioning again
[14:27] <Pici> mrunagi: Have you asked in #xubuntu?
[14:28] <mrunagi> no............im about to.........i cant seem to get my xorg to config right..........im trying to add those two options and compiz is suppose to fail without composite
[14:30] <mrunagi> but it doesnt =/
[14:31] <eagles0513875> Pici: is it possible for a dns cache on linux to go bad
[14:32] <Pici> eagles0513875: Those sort of specifics are outside my knowledge.  You could try asking in #ubuntu and #ubuntu-server as this doesn't seem to be specifically a Kubuntu issue though :)
[14:34] <mrunagi> !bin
[14:36] <eagles0513875> !binary | mrunagi
[14:36] <mrunagi> how do i install a .bin
[14:36] <eagles0513875> mrunagi: is this in pkg with source code
[14:36] <mrunagi> i dunno im trying to install java
[14:37] <Tann> mrunagi: would you not just run it like this when you are in the directory of the .bin? -> ./the_file.bin
[14:37] <eagles0513875> !java
[14:37] <eagles0513875> !java | mrunagi
[14:39] <eagles0513875> Pici: ubuntu server channel was no help
[14:39] <eagles0513875> think everyone is too busy on intrepid
[14:43] <mrunagi> they make j ava so hard to install
[14:52] <mrunagi> how do you connect to wireless via cli
[14:52] <Tm_T> hi mrunagi
[14:53] <mrunagi> hi
[14:53] <mrunagi> how are you?
[14:53] <brewmaster> is it possible to install and setup kubuntu on one machine, pull that HD and just put it in a different computer and it'll work?
[14:53] <mrunagi> brewmaster: i imagine you would need to recompile when you move
[14:55] <Pici> brewmaster: You may have issues with grub and fstab due to harddrive changes, but other than that it should work.
[14:55] <mrunagi> is it possible to stop a package dl in cli and pick it up where it left off later
[14:59] <Pici> mrunagi: ctrl-c.  But only if its in the download stage, never the install stage.
[14:59] <mrunagi> how do u restart it later
[15:00] <Pici> mrunagi: Just issue the apt-get install command again
[15:00] <mrunagi> oh thats high speed
[15:00] <mrunagi> i like that :D
[15:09] <mrunagi> !java
[15:10] <mrunagi> ugh java is ANNOYING
[15:10] <mrunagi> i guess its installed?
[15:11] <randry> Hi
[15:11] <mrunagi> hi!
[15:11] <randry> can anyone help me with my wireless?
[15:11] <genii> mrunagi: What does:      apt-cache policy sun-java6-jre  sun-java6-plugin                       show?
[15:12] <randry> ubuntu dapper 6.06
[15:12] <randry> bcm4311
[15:12] <cuznt> !wireless
[15:12] <randry> yes but it doesn't resolve my problem
[15:13] <mrunagi> it shows installed none version tables and stuff
[15:13] <randry> I have bcm43xx-fwcutter and ndiswrapper
[15:14] <mrunagi> !ndiswrapper
[15:14] <mrunagi> lol
[15:14] <randry> I have tried all of that
[15:15] <randry> it is still doing this
[15:15] <randry> 0000:06:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation: Unknown device 4311 (rev 01)
[15:15] <randry> when I run lspci
[15:19] <randry> another problem is that when I enter my password to system>amdin>networkin it says wrong password
[15:19] <ralpho> the driver has to be in the firmware dir inside the b43 folder.
[15:19] <randry> which driver
[15:20] <ralpho> b43
[15:20] <randry> what can I do?
[15:20] <mrunagi> !b8zs
[15:20] <timur> ee
[15:25] <blip-> hi, i've used this command multiple times, but i'm not getting any output anymore in anydirectory !    Could some updated system package have changed the behaviour ?   thanks                  ls -l | gawk {$4}
[15:26] <ralpho> randy http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/b43
[15:40] <ocs> hi. where can i find a list of usb gsm modems compatible with kubuntu ?
[15:43] <kniolet> ocs: while i am sure there are some that are not, all the ones i have tried (probably about 4 or 5) worked fine in linux if you dont mind writing connection scripts yourself
[15:44] <ocs>  if you dont mind writing connection scripts yourself = ?
[15:44] <ocs> kniolet:
[15:45] <genii> ocs: The usb modems often accept same set of standard Hayes modem commands. So you would use something like Expect to write a small script which perhaps dials out and then enters name and password once connected. Etc
[15:47] <ocs> genii: i know that (i used serial modems) . this is not my problem. the question is finding an USB modem which is compatible without problem on kubuntu
[15:48] <ocs> i don't have much time to choose a random one and then try it. I want to choose one from a "certified" (or similar) list for (k)ubuntu
[15:49] <eagles0513875> !vpn
[15:53] <genii> ocs: I use my nokia phone as a modem when travelling
[15:54] <ocs> genii: i'm not searching for phones
[15:54] <ocs> i'm searching for modems only
[15:57] <genii> ocs: The modem list on the wiki seems to cover only 3G types. But google shows many people are using Huawei E220 gsm modems and AT&T GT Max 3.6 on Ubuntu with success
[16:00] <ocs> let's have a look. thnks genii
[16:01] <ocs> genii: huawei e220 is UMTS, i'm searching for smthing gprs.
[16:02] <genii> ocs: http://reillyblog.com/archives/70-ATT-Broadband-Card-GT-Max-3.6-with-Ubuntu-8.04.html
[16:03] <kniolet> most umts cards can fall back to gprs
[16:04] <ocs> kniolet: but they are more expensive
[16:04] <kniolet> its probably hard to find a usb modem that doesnt cover all of gprs/edge/umts/hsdpa nowadays
[16:05] <ocs> kniolet: this is true. therefore i asked my question :)
[16:05] <kniolet> you can prabably get like a pcmcia card that is only gprs
[16:05] <kniolet> i think sony still makes them
[16:05] <kniolet> but i have actually never even seen a usb one that wasnt at least umts
[16:06] <ocs> kniolet: so, the conclusion is phone or umts modem ?
[16:07] <kniolet> thats what i would say would be the most likely that you will actually find
[16:07] <ocs> i see
[16:07] <ocs> in addition: when i google for modems, i have a list of phones, unfortunately
[16:32] <cristian_> Hello, What is the package that controls the multimedia keys in laptops' keyboards? I need to submit a bug report...
[16:33] <emilsedgh> cristian_: kmilo
[16:33] <emilsedgh> cristian_: if your are on kde3 its kmilo
[16:33] <emilsedgh> cristian_: on kde4 its kmix i guess
[16:33] <cristian_> emilsedgh: actually no, I'm on kde4
[16:34] <cristian_> emilsedgh: OK thank you!
[16:34] <emilsedgh> cristian_: on pre-8.10 i think there is no such thing
[16:34] <emilsedgh> cristian_: on 8.10 its kmix
[16:34] <cristian_> emilsedgh: I'm on 8.10 beta
[16:35] <emilsedgh> cristian_: so its kmix i guess
[16:36] <cristian_> emilsedgh: Thanks, I'll try submitting the bug now
[16:46] <antonio_> hola
[16:46] <antonio_> hay alguien de españa por aquí?
[16:46] <geek> !es
[16:48] <antonio_> hay alguien de españa?
[16:48] <antonio_> hooolaaa
[16:49] <antonio_> hay algun moderador o alguien asi?????
[16:50] <Dygash> I just downloaded tintin++ a MUD client and following the sites instructions I can't get it to work
[16:51] <antonio_> in spanish please
[16:51] <antonio_> :P
[16:51] <Dygash> tar -zxf <filename> I have changed the file name to tintin.tar.gz now because the other had version numbers but i still had the same problem as before
[16:51] <Dygash> inside is tt++
[16:51] <antonio_> I dont't speak english!!!!
[16:52] <antonio_> I don't speak english!!!!
[16:52] <Dygash> yo no allos espanol
[16:52] <dr_willis> No Hobli
[16:52] <dr_willis> No Hoblo
[16:52] <dr_willis> :)
[16:52] <mrunagi> i accidently deleted my xorg.conf
[16:52] <mrunagi> um.........help?
[16:52] <mrunagi> :D
[16:52] <dr_willis> !info tintin
[16:52] <Dygash> !info tintin
[16:52] <antonio_> any Spanish?
[16:53] <Dygash> i am using kubuntu
[16:53] <dr_willis> !info tintin++
[16:53] <Dygash> !info tintin++
[16:53] <dr_willis> The package name is 'tintin++' how... odd :)
[16:53] <vonkleist> antonio_, en este canal se habla principalmente ingles
[16:53] <vonkleist> te recomiendo que vayas a #kubuntu-es
[16:53] <antonio_> eres español?
[16:54] <geek> vonkleist: i linked him to the factoid about it a little earlier. it seems he has problems reading spanish as well ;)
[16:54] <yotamyael> hi guys.
[16:54] <Dygash> dr_willis: ubottu any thoughts on what to do?
[16:54] <yotamyael> I've just installed kubuntu 8.10 on my machine and it give me hard time with my sound card
[16:54] <Dygash> i put it on desktop thats local right?
[16:54] <yotamyael> any help?
[16:55] <mrunagi> how do i undelete
[16:55] <yotamyael> Also, I wanted to install gnome to see if it has something to do with KDE but couldn't find it on adept installer
[16:55] <dr_willis> Dygash,  Hmm.. just install the tintin++ package. and launch the app..
[16:56] <dr_willis> Dygash,  you dont need to mess wiyth the source.
[16:56] <Dygash> i am struggling to understand how to install it
[16:57] <vonkleist> geek, I discovered that antonio_ is 11 years old!! :O
[16:57] <dr_willis> Dygash, ... err.. fire up the package mnager,, search for tintin , click install..
[16:58] <Dygash> sudo aptitude install of course
[16:58] <dr_willis> Dygash,  or 'sudo apt-get install tintin++
[17:01] <yotamyael> anyone?
[17:02] <dr_willis> Gnome somthing to do with kde? Huh
[17:02] <yotamyael> no, my sound card issue
[17:02] <dr_willis>  If you wan tthe full gnome based Ubuntu desktop - install the 'ubuntu-desktop' package.
[17:03] <eagles0513875> dr_willis: have u setup vpn before
[17:03] <dr_willis> eagles0513875,  never messed with it.
[17:03] <eagles0513875> !vpn
[17:03] <eagles0513875> has anyone setup vpn with this link https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Gaming_VPN_Using_PPTPD
[17:04] <grendal_prime> i have compiz installed...how do i adjust it?
[17:04] <dr_willis> !ccsm
[17:04] <Dygash> apt-get and adept installer neither could find tintin but i see it on my desktop
[17:04] <dr_willis> install ccsm and start tweaking
[17:04] <grendal_prime> im using the advanced desktop settings wizard...but there is no apply button, and the changes i make do not get applied?
[17:05] <dr_willis> Dygash,  the package name is 'tintin++'  you may need to add extra repositorues.. IF You  dowloaded a .deb package you can just double click on it.. if you downloaded the .tar.gz.. you should proberly not mess with the source. and use the package manager
[17:05] <dr_willis> grendal_prime,  gnome works that way. :) no apply. ya set the setting.. it takes effect.. normally
[17:05] <dr_willis> some tmes compiz and kde get a liottle out of sync
[17:06] <eagles0513875> !vpb
[17:06] <grendal_prime> well a little i could understand, but...literally NOTHING i do has any effect
[17:06] <eagles0513875> !vpn
[17:07] <dr_willis> grendal_prime,  well.. lets see.. you are using kde3 and not 4? you did start compiz with 'compiz --replace' ?
[17:07] <dr_willis> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion is a good read to start with
[17:07] <kniolet> wow i used to use tintin++ to play MUDs in like 1992, do people still do that? lol
[17:08] <dr_willis> kniolet,  theres still a lot of them around. :)
[17:08] <dr_willis> I recall some very advanced mud clients also.. and some muds even have web based clients/java
[17:08] <kniolet> yeah but thats getting into being a mmorpg and not a mud anymore
[17:09] <yotamyael> dr_willis, I can't find ubuntu-desktop on my package manager
[17:10] <yotamyael> but I could find it on apt-get and downloading it
[17:11] <darkmoon> hi there
[17:11] <dr_willis> i would guess you are using the package manager wrongly then. :)
[17:11] <darkmoon> how i start a service ?
[17:11] <darkmoon> i need start bind ...
[17:11] <dr_willis> or using that crippled down  add/remove icon tool
[17:11] <dr_willis> normally if you install a service - it autmatically gets added to the services started up
[17:11] <antonio_> hola
[17:11] <antonio_> hay alguien ???
[17:11] <antonio_> español??
[17:11] <dr_willis> sudo apt-get install tintin++
[17:11] <dr_willis> tt++
[17:12] <dr_willis> !sysv
[17:12] <DarthFrog> !es | antonio_
[17:12] <antonio_> no me funciona
[17:12] <Dygash> doent work for me
[17:13] <antonio_> el canal
[17:13] <antonio_> me dice:
[17:13] <Dygash> turned the adept manager on and i'm downloading again to see if it picks up as the l;ast downloads
[17:13] <antonio_> [Error] \ubuntu-es: No existe ese apodo o canal.
[17:13] <DarthFrog> antonio:  #ubuntu-es
[17:16] <niklauz> hey guys
[17:16] <niklauz> hows it going?
[17:16] <ubuntu> what is the name of the propierty hardware configuration in kubuntu
[17:17] <ubuntu> like video cards etc etc
[17:17] <DarthFrog> ubuntu: jockey-kde.
[17:17] <dr_willis> jokey<tab>  or jocky<tab>
[17:17] <dr_willis> L(
[17:17] <dr_willis> :) Jokey.. sounds like a smurf..
[17:17] <dr_willis> Jockey sounds like a smurf also.. heh
[17:18] <dr_willis> noight all
[17:18] <DarthFrog> The image arises of a blue smurf on a racehorse named KDE. :-)
[17:19] <Dygash> sudo tar -zxf /home/luke/Desktop//tintin-1.98.5-linux.tar.gz
[17:19] <Dygash> i dont get any errors but nothing happens
[17:19] <yotamyael> I think I'm using the cripple one.
[17:19] <DarthFrog> Dygash: You shouldn't need sudo to do that.
[17:20] <Dygash> but my manager could not find it
[17:20] <DarthFrog> and you don't need the hyphen in front of -zxf
[17:20] <DarthFrog> Try: tar zxvf <tarfile> instead.
[17:21] <ubuntu> how do i change, the window decoration in kde 4 Dygash
[17:22] <Dygash> i did that it said tt++ on the next line, thats hopeful
[17:22]  * niklauz wonders at what point will kde4 be better than kde3.5 
[17:25] <Dygash> ls shows tt++
[17:26] <zer0o> hi guys i cannot access to my hard drives from "storage media" if i try it says "Feature only available with HAL" i can only access them from "root>media" ????????? anyone can help?
[17:27] <Cannoli> hey how can i find out wht chipset i have
[17:27] <Cannoli> ?
[17:27] <tindor_> Cannoli, sudo lspci
[17:29] <romain_> hello , can i have the link for kubuntu french please ??
[17:29] <geek> !fr
[17:29] <romain_> thank you
[17:30] <geek> c'est rien ;)
[17:42] <cuznt> oui
[17:42] <cuznt> si
[17:44] <eagles0513875> !fr | cuznt
[17:44] <eagles0513875> !es | cuznt
[17:56] <niklauz> hey isnt there a way to add medibuntu using apt-get ? i thought it was medibuntu-keyring or something like that
[17:57] <asfak> how do i disable some startup applications in Kubuntu intrepid ?
[17:59] <niklauz> asfak: check in ~/.kde/Autostart ?
[18:00] <asfak> thanks
[18:01] <asfak> but its empty, with one hiddden file
[18:03] <wftl> I've got a notebook that was recently upgraded to Kubuntu Hardy. Most things work, but Firefox takes forever (about 2 minutes) to load, then when it finally does, seems to lock up.
[18:03] <wftl> Ideas? Suggestions?
[18:04] <cuznt> i use seamonkey
[18:04] <cuznt> my firefox crashes a lot.,
[18:04] <cuznt> just p00f! and its gone
[18:04] <cuznt> there is also epiphany web browser too that is kind of nice
[18:05] <niklauz> asfak: thats where it typically is, which app is autostarting?
[18:06] <niklauz> when kde saves the session on logout it may be set in this way also, or within the specific apps config
[18:06] <asfak> niklauz, i got that, it was in /.config/autostart
[18:07] <niklauz> ah, my info was from kde3, i didn't realize it was changed  :)
[18:07] <asfak> thanks anyway
[18:08] <asfak> niklauz, how do i change usplash ?
[18:09] <wftl> I was actually hoping to figure out a way to make Firefox work rather than switching browsers. [ insert appropriate smiley here ]
[18:09] <niklauz> asfak: you can replace the specific packages, if you want to usea custom image you'll need to do a little reading
[18:10] <niklauz> for example
[18:10] <asfak> i think i will need to do some homework ....
[18:10] <niklauz> n1x0r@callisto:~$ dpkg -l | grep -i usplash
[18:10] <niklauz> ii  kubuntu-artwork-usplash                    1:8.04-20                                            kubuntu artwork for usplash
[18:12] <niklauz> !usplash
[18:12] <niklauz> asfak: ^^
[18:15] <asfak> niklauz, that was simple using startupmanager. I download usplash from kde-look.org, and rest was damn easy.
[18:17] <asfak> yes, but now i would like to create usplash with my image. I think that was easy job in mandriva. Let me find some easy GUI for that.
[18:18] <niklauz> cool, i'll look into that for myself, can u link to the one you picked i'm curious
[18:20] <alarm> hello, to use some 3d desktop effects, i need compiz ? beryl is outdated or what?
[18:22] <asfak> niklauz, i download http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/Kubuntu+Intrepid+USPLASH?content=91436 . Extracted *.so and ...........
[18:22] <wftl> Are there openoffice.org 3 packages for Hardy . . . anywhere?
[18:22] <blackflag> !win32codecs
[18:23] <niklauz> asfak: lol thats cute
[18:23] <asfak> see u later niklauz.
[18:24] <wftl> !openoffice.org
[18:24] <wftl> Well, that didn't help.
[18:34] <W8TAH> hi folks - -im trying to install the package kworldclock on kubuntu ibex -- synaptic keeps saying it cant be found -- is it in a special repo or something?
[18:42] <oz_> hi
[18:43] <oz_> W8TAH ?
[18:44] <oz_> ""kworldclock"" ? test "worldclock"
[18:44] <blackflag> !gosa
[18:45] <Shadow_> hello everyone
[18:46] <oz_> hi
[18:46] <Shadow_> kubuntu intrepid which kde version will have?
[18:46] <oz_> 1 second
[18:47] <vonkleist> Shadow_, mine says it'll be 4.1.2
[18:47] <W8TAH> oz_, i found it -- sorry
[18:48] <oz_> 4.1 in the beta
[18:48] <oz_> no problem
[18:48] <Shadow_> kde 3.5.10 will not be used to intrepid?
[18:48] <vonkleist> Shadow_, it seems it won't be
[18:49] <Shadow_> thnx von:D
[18:49] <oz_> Ubuntu 8.10: GNOME 2.24 and KDE 4.1.2
[18:49] <dwidmann> Shadow_: kde3 apps will still be there for apps that haven't been ported yet I think
[18:50] <Shadow_> sure dwidmann i knew that
[18:50] <dwidmann> Shadow_: that means at least kdebase/libs will still be there ...
[18:50] <Shadow_> but i think that kde4 is a bit buggy to come with intrepid
[18:51] <Shadow_> by that way u make a step backward not forward
[18:51] <Shadow_> i hope to be false
[18:51] <dwidmann> Shadow_: kde3 wasn't perfect when it superceded kde2 either
[18:51] <Shadow_> indeed dwidmann but it's better to have choices:D
[18:52] <NickPresta> Shadow_, in your opinion, of course. KDE 4.1 is still an earlier version of KDE4. If you're going to wait for KDE4 to be as super stable and feature filled as KDE 3.5.10, you might as well wait a couple years. ;)
[18:52] <Shadow_> i think NickPresta that there should have again the choice
[18:53] <Shadow_> and begin to come only with kde4 with 9.04
[18:53] <Shadow_> soz for my english:D
[18:53] <ralpho> seems like we changed from kde 2 to kde 3 just 10 years ago
[18:54] <ralpho> i was sure 4 was just a year away back then.
[18:54] <ralpho> lol
[18:54] <NickPresta> Shadow_, well, you don't _have_ to upgrade to Ibex. Hardy with KDE3 still works.
[18:54] <dwidmann> Shadow_: from the ubuntu perspective, I reckon doing it now gives them more time to get everything "right" before the next LTS release.
[18:55] <Shadow_> yes by that way it is a right movement dwidmann
[18:56] <Shadow_> just talking about Intrepid NickPresta that there should have the choice...i dont think that 3.5.10 is the perfect manager
[18:56] <Shadow_> sure there must be updates and upgrades
[18:56] <NickPresta> Shadow_, well, the rationale is that KDE3 is obsolete and is largely unmaintained. It would've given no advantage over Hardy, https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuIntrepidVersion
[18:56] <dwidmann> Shadow_: more choices = more work = more manpower required
[18:57] <NickPresta> Shadow_, have you actually used KDE4 yet or are you just worried because of what you've heard?
[18:57] <vonkleist> being that said, KDE4 on Kubuntu is worth a try...
[18:58] <vonkleist> it runs very well, and I'm talking about the 8.10 beta...
[18:58] <Shadow_> i have used it NickPresta but i had some issues with networking..:D
[18:58] <NickPresta> Shadow_, which version?
[18:58] <Shadow_> 4.1
[18:59] <NickPresta> Shadow_, each minor release fixes a few things and makes KDE4 more stable overall. 4.1.2 is pretty stable, at least for me.
[18:59] <C_Panic> Hey everybody
[18:59] <JackWinter> hi, i just upgraded to kde 3.5.10 (don't know if this is the reason), but konversation keeps on loosing the  connection and then logging in again to the channels.  any ideas ?
[18:59] <C_Panic> I'm having a problem with this repartitioning task
[19:00] <Shadow_> with quagga daemon i have issues about the bgpd and ospfd?and with 3.5.10 all was perfect...I hope 4.1.2 gives me more stability NickPresta
[19:00] <C_Panic> I was able to resize the big /home partition ok, but
[19:00] <C_Panic> GParted has resized my big /home partition, but it keeps crashing or quitting when trying to move the partition to the right so as to make room to grow the other partitions.
[19:01] <C_Panic> maybe I need to resize it again, to make it even smaller?
[19:01] <Shadow_> I have an issue for 3.5.10 with my broadcome 4318 wireless card on laptop...
[19:02] <Shadow_> I can use it but only with DHCP i want static use but when i do that i cannot scan any network...is like there is no wireless...
[19:02] <Shadow_> when i turn it back to roaming mode everything works well...
[19:03] <Shadow_> anyone knows any solution about that?
[19:04] <giolatalpa> ciao
[19:05] <giolatalpa> mi serve aiuto è il posto giusto
[19:05] <giolatalpa> ??
[19:05] <giolatalpa> c'è qualcuno gentile?
[19:06] <deftone> can i get songbird through adept?
[19:11] <Shadow_> have a nice day everyone...Goodbye
[19:13] <C_Panic> hey genii, yopu there?
[19:14] <JackTop> i just updated my 8.0.4 to kde 3.5.10 (don't know if this is relevant).  now konversation keeps loosing the connection to the irc servers. any ideas ?
[19:15] <JackTop> this is not wireless...
[19:17] <deftone> am new to linux....what virus protection is the best to use?
[19:18] <Darthfrog> deftone: None needed.  Just common sense.
[19:18] <mchris> <--hello
[19:20] <miracleman> hi
[19:22] <Lurkan> deftone:  in gnu/linux no have virus know`s no need virus protection
[19:23] <Lurkan> deftone:  you feel the power of gnu/linx
[19:23] <Lurkan> :)
[19:23] <deftone> sweet
[19:24] <deftone> i'm new so i just wanted to ask
[19:24] <deftone> is there a program for my Blackberry that's good on Linux?
[19:29] <ubuntu> moin
[19:29] <ubuntu> moin
[19:30] <ubuntu> tach auch
[19:32] <Gh0ul86> Ciao!
[19:38] <marcel> hi
[19:38] <oz_> hi
[19:45] <marcel> how can i change a chanel <
[19:47] <oz_> 1 channel
[19:48] <oz_> "/list" and "/join #channel"
[19:48] <oz_> but 1 channel on this server
[19:51] <Locki> I'm having a problem with Guidance Power Manager (or possibly HAL).  When I first turn on my laptop, it correctly detects plugged in or not, but if I change (plug in or unplug), it no longer correctly detects it.
[19:51] <Locki> Though it does detect some change
[19:51] <C_Panic> Can anyone help me with a partitioning issue?
[19:51] <marcel> ok but haw can i find channels i other servers<<
[19:52] <C_Panic> I'm trying to repartition my boot drive and it doesn't seem to be working
[19:54] <administrator> hello all
[19:54] <administrator> just a quick question how do i install bin files???
[19:54] <zer0o> hi guys on closing dolphin i get this message Unable to save bookmarks in /home/emons/.kde/share/apps/d3lphin/bookmarks.xml. Reported error was: Permission denied. This error message will only be shown once. The cause of the error needs to be fixed as quickly as possible, which is most likely a full hard drive.
[19:55] <zer0o> what's that?
[19:55] <oz_> marcel "/list"
[19:56] <C_Panic> I've been trying to accomplish this for like 20 hours now and I keep having problems
[19:56] <C_Panic> is there a suuport forum for PartitionMagic?
[19:57] <C_Panic> I mean... PartedMagic
[20:04] <administrator> hi all ive got a quick question how do i install .bin files???
[20:05] <dwidmann> administrator: well, pull up a shell, mark the file executable (chmod +x filename.bin), then run it (./filename.bin)
[20:07] <oz_> bye
[20:08] <administrator> ok ive oepned the console
[20:09] <administrator> im new to kubuntu so might need some assistance
[20:12] <coreymon77> administrator: is the .bin file on your desktop?
[20:13] <gonzalo_> holas, este canal tambien sirve para idioma español, o es solo ingles??
[20:13] <coreymon77> !es | gonzalo_
[20:13] <gonzalo_> gracias
[20:14] <coreymon77> administrator: or in your home directory
[20:14] <administrator> nope its in another folder do you want me to copy it onto the desktop
[20:14] <coreymon77> administrator: no, just go to it
[20:14] <administrator> its in my home directory
[20:14] <coreymon77> administrator: and right click on it and click properties
[20:15] <administrator> ok ive right clicked on the bin file
[20:15] <coreymon77> click properties
[20:15] <administrator> and then clicked propertys
[20:16] <coreymon77> look around, i believe its under the permissions tab, for an "is executable" box
[20:16] <administrator> yes this box is selected
[20:17] <coreymon77> okay
[20:17] <coreymon77> now, open up console
[20:17] <coreymon77> and type ./thefilename.bin
[20:18] <coreymon77> or just the first few letters of the file and then press the tab key
[20:19] <administrator> its saying no such file or directory
[20:19] <coreymon77> okay then, just type the file name
[20:19] <administrator> imsorry about this its my first time using this system
[20:19] <coreymon77> no worries
[20:20] <administrator> sil nothing
[20:20] <coreymon77> whats the file name?
[20:21] <administrator> the downloaded 1?? or .bin??
[20:21] <coreymon77> the .bin
[20:21] <administrator> i think its wormux
[20:22] <coreymon77> just read me the filename of the .bin file
[20:22] <coreymon77> is it wormux.bin?
[20:23] <administrator> ok ill start from start again
[20:23] <administrator> sorry
[20:23] <administrator> i downloaded this to my desktop
[20:23] <administrator> and its wormux-0.8.2-static-x86.tbz2
[20:24] <administrator> i put this into ark and extracted it to my home menu
[20:24] <coreymon77> okay
[20:24] <administrator> now theres another folder called wormux-0.8.2-static-x86
[20:25] <administrator> then wen i go inside that there are 3 other folders
[20:25] <coreymon77> and inside that is wormux-0.8.2-static-x86.bin right?
[20:26] <administrator> bin, data,  and lib
[20:26] <DrX> anyone know how to view the RAID driver version?
[20:26] <keith> Xorg keeps throwing a wobbly as soon as I install ATI card drivers. Anyone had that before?
[20:27] <coreymon77> administrator: do something for me
[20:27] <coreymon77> in console
[20:27] <administrator> ok
[20:28] <coreymon77> type apt-cache search wormux
[20:28] <coreymon77> tell me if something is there
[20:28] <coreymon77> i mean, if something comes up
[20:28] <administrator> yes theres something came up
[20:28] <coreymon77> what
[20:29] <coreymon77> what came up
[20:29] <administrator> wormux-funny flight game
[20:29] <administrator> wormux-data - data files for the game wormux
[20:30] <coreymon77> administrator: okay, thats enough, stop
[20:30] <administrator> ok
[20:30] <coreymon77> administrator: in console type sudo apt-get install wormux
[20:31] <administrator> yip i had that verson but i toook it back out to get a newer verson which was the one i downloaded
[20:31] <coreymon77> oh, okay
[20:32] <administrator> is there anyway i can give you remote access to let u c???
[20:33] <coreymon77> no, i know what to do
[20:33] <spedrayes> Hi. Im trying intrepid right now and its great! Im tring to figure out how to open files from a windows share. So far I can open images and pdfs with no problem but I cant open .doc or anything that opens with openoffice... do I have to mount the share?
[20:34] <coreymon77> administrator: im going to download the file myself and see what you are looking at
[20:34] <administrator> ok
[20:34] <administrator> you can get it off the worms site itself
[20:35] <coreymon77> i know
[20:35] <administrator> sorry about this im probabally making a mountain out of something so small
[20:36] <coreymon77> no worries, i just need to see what we are dealing with, then it is easy
[20:36] <administrator> ok thanks very much i appreciate all your help on this
[20:37] <administrator> the way i done it was downloaded it onto the desktop
[20:37] <administrator> and then extracted it thorugh ark into the home folder
[20:38] <coreymon77> its alright
[20:38] <coreymon77> i know what to do
[20:39] <coreymon77> administrator: you know that there is no installing involved here, this is the actual game, you run the bin file here you run the game itself
[20:40] <deftone> just went on youtube and noticed that I have no sound in opera. Any help pleez
[20:40] <coreymon77> deftone: do you have sound anywhere else?
[20:40] <deftone> yep...i have great sound in banshee
[20:41] <coreymon77> administrator: there is no installing involved here
[20:41] <administrator> o ryt
[20:41] <administrator> how do i get it to work
[20:41] <deftone> although i did download flash from adobe..maybe i need flash from adept?
[20:42] <administrator> coz i cant find the game itself
[20:42] <coreymon77> administrator: easy
[20:42] <coreymon77> in console
[20:42] <administrator> ok
[20:42] <coreymon77> type cd wormux then press the tab key
[20:42] <kexman> hi
[20:42] <coreymon77> that should complete the rest of the file name
[20:42] <kexman> is there any default firewall in kubuntu that could block access to kopete to send files to another yahoo messenger ?
[20:43] <kexman> my friend is trying to send a file to me with kopete and he cant
[20:43] <Pici> !firewall | kexman
[20:43] <administrator> yes ok
[20:43] <coreymon77> you pressed enter right?
[20:43] <administrator> yip
[20:43] <coreymon77> okay
[20:43] <coreymon77> now cd bin
[20:44] <administrator> ok could you also explain what this is doing as we go along
[20:44] <administrator> yip i presses enter
[20:44] <coreymon77> cd means change directory
[20:44] <coreymon77> basically what you are doing is navigating to the folder of the .bin file
[20:45] <administrator> ok i see what you mean
[20:45] <coreymon77> now type wormux
[20:45] <coreymon77> and the game should open
[20:45] <administrator> do i have to do this for all bin files i download and extract??
[20:46] <coreymon77> yup, thats how you run a bin file
[20:46] <kc8hfi_> how do you add a menu item to the right click menu?  what i'm looking for is for an option to launch konsole from the right menu on the desktop
[20:46] <administrator> its aying i need to put a sudo in
[20:46] <coreymon77> administrator: clicking it should work aswell
[20:46] <coreymon77> administrator: oh, then you do need to install
[20:46] <coreymon77> administrator: okay, then use sudo
[20:47] <coreymon77> administrator: the main rule is check apt first, it makes things much easier
[20:47] <GasFurnace> kubuntu filesystems suck
[20:48] <agnitio> is it possible to install kubuntu from a usb drive?
[20:48] <administrator> is that the adpet manager??
[20:48] <coreymon77> administrator: so sudo wormux
[20:48] <coreymon77> administrator: yes, adept is just a graphical thing for apt
[20:49] <administrator> ok then wot??
[20:50] <coreymon77> administrator: what happened when you typed sudo wormux
[20:50] <administrator> it said something about unpacking
[20:51] <coreymon77> okay, so, its doing its thing, just let it go until you are returned to a prompt or something else happens
[20:51] <administrator> ok it has stopped
[20:52] <coreymon77> okay, you should be done
[20:52] <coreymon77> look in your kmenu for it
[20:52] <administrator> ok yes i c it
[20:52] <coreymon77> youre done
[20:52] <administrator> thank you very much
[20:53] <coreymon77> no problem
[20:53] <coreymon77> have fun
[20:53] <administrator> the only problem is its the same verson i had lol
[20:53] <coreymon77> it is?
[20:54] <administrator> yip
[20:54] <coreymon77> did you uninstall it from apt?
[20:54] <administrator> yip
[20:54] <coreymon77> look around in that folder that you downloaded
[20:54] <coreymon77> is there anything new in it?
[20:54] <administrator> ill have a look
[20:56] <administrator> nope cant see anything
[20:57] <coreymon77> oh, im a dork
[20:57] <Indephysis> Hey, I just found a nice theme that's dark and easy on the eyes, but now some text boxes on sites are unreadable. Any tips?
[20:57] <coreymon77> sorry
[20:57] <coreymon77> administrator: type cd in console
[20:57] <deftone> ubuntu only let one stream of audio run at once? is there a fix to this? regularly use youtube and banshee..
[20:58] <administrator> ok
[20:58] <coreymon77> administrator: then type cd wormux tab button
[20:58] <administrator> ok
[20:59] <coreymon77> administrator: now ./wormux.sh
[20:59] <administrator> ok the game loaded there
[21:00] <coreymon77> okay, there you go
[21:00] <administrator> great i think this is the newer verson
[21:00] <coreymon77> have fun
[21:00] <administrator> so to reacp wot did we do there
[21:00] <administrator> im so sorry to keep bothering you
[21:00] <coreymon77> all you really needed to do was to run wormux.sh
[21:01] <coreymon77> cd to the directory and run wormux.sh
[21:01] <administrator> and do i have to do this command all the time now??
[21:01] <coreymon77> different packages differ in the details though, so once again, always check apt (adept) firtst
[21:01] <coreymon77> first*
[21:02] <Indephysis> Also, how do I change my default web browser?
[21:03] <administrator> does changing directory mean this is were you will run it through now??
[21:04] <coreymon77> youre navigating to the directory
[21:04] <coreymon77> console needs to know what directory to run your command iin
[21:05] <coreymon77> the cd [plus a folder name] navigates to that directory
[21:05] <coreymon77> cd without any folder name after it brings you back to your home directory
[21:06] <administrator> sorry i dont understand really i do apologise
[21:06] <coreymon77> you will figure it out
[21:06] <coreymon77> dont worry
[21:06] <coreymon77> we all did
[21:08] <aleksive> hello my friends. i have just begun using kubuntu. now everybody, remember i am absolutely new to linux. and if you nice people would assist me, i would be delighted.
[21:09] <coreymon77> i would, but i am really hungry and have to go eat something
[21:11] <aleksive> i have a intel 3945ABG wireless networking card, and i already downloaded the proper driver from "http://www.intellinuxwireless.org/?n=Downloads" the problem is, i can't understand anything of what the readme says, it says something about "having firmware_loader" enabled, and configuring kernel.
[21:12] <noam_> a quick question: has the sound-in-flash problem in kubuntu 8.10 beta been solved?
[21:12] <aleksive> now i wouldn't be surprised if you think this is pretty basic, and i am embarrased not knowing how to install this driver. but i hope anyone can help me. thanks in advance
[21:13] <administrator> thanks again corey mon
[21:19] <blip-> hi, ksynaptics isn't in the repos...  and kde-apps says its discontinued.   how can i change my laptop's touchpad settings ?   thanks
[21:20] <dwidmann> blip-: it is superceded by touchfreeze IIRC
[21:22] <dwidmann> blip-: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/TouchFreeze?content=61442
[21:23] <noam_> aleksive: that's not basic...
[21:24] <noam_> unfortunately i can't help you. there might be a solution in google that doesn't involve messing with the kernel
[21:24] <administrator> helo peeps just a quick question does nayone know any of the best sites to download games??
[21:24] <aleksive> i wouldn't know, to me it would seem like installing driver.. and.. installing a driver should be pretty basic.. right?
[21:25] <aleksive> i should probably install the app that lets me use windows drivers.. right?:)
[21:25] <blip-> dwidmann: i thought you were joking with that name TouchFreeze :D      It seems to be the replacement for Q/KSynaptics.... but not in the repos yet.  would you recommend i install and use qsynaptics which is in the repo already.. or install a deb package for TF
[21:27] <dwidmann> blip-: Your call. Either way will work well. Qsynaptics is much more robust but apparently had issues. touchfreeze is pretty basic and doesn't do so well on powertop, but it's drop-dead simple (you'll have to change some settings yourself in xorg.conf this route though, like the pointer acceleration/speed, tapping, and such)
[21:27] <noam_> aleksive: if you mean ndiswrapper and it works for that card (i personally don't know ndiswrapper), then this might be an easy way to go
[21:28] <noam_> but installing drivers for hardware is almost never needed in linux as everything is already included in the kernel
[21:28] <noam_> and since you got to the development page of the driver, it's probably not very user friendly :)
[21:29] <blip-> hmm,  i'll go with the easy gui qsynaptics and hope it doesn't cause problems.   thanks dwidmann :)
[21:30] <tez> moin
[21:31] <tez> wie kann folgendes passieren?
[21:31] <tez> su
[21:31] <tez> ich geb das rootpw ein
[21:31] <tez> su: Fehler bei Authentifizierung
[21:31] <tez> Sorry.
[21:36] <blip-> dwidmann: sorry to bother you again, but isn't qsynaptics mean to be a program or is it just some library... i installed it but there is no "qsynaptics" executable
[21:36] <deftone> aleksive: did you get my pm?
[21:36] <dwidmann> blip-: hmm, one sec
[21:36] <aleksive> sorry, wwent downstairs for a tick:)
[21:37]  * DaSkreech runs powertop on aleksive
[21:37] <dwidmann> blip-: no, it's definitely an executable ... I don't think it's in hardy at all though.
[21:37] <dwidmann> blip-: come to think of it
[21:39] <dwidmann> blip-: That's why I went looking for it and subsequently found touch freeze ... that was quite a while ago.
[21:39] <blip-> dwidmann: oops sorry my bad.  i installed gsynaptics not q
[21:40] <blip-> and that does install an exectuable but doesn't bring up any gui.  i think i'll just move to the newer touchfreeze and hope for features soon.  this Dell touchpad is horrible
[21:40] <dwidmann> blip-: man synaptics will give you a list of options so you can tweak some things I think
[21:41] <blip-> oh i see.  ok great i can use that.   thanks again dwidmann
[21:42] <dwidmann> blip-: no problem ... I can grab my xorg.conf if you want a small starting point
[21:42] <blip-> dwidmann: np,  i'll google some xorgs.  i've taken enough of your time
[21:42] <dwidmann> blip-: http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/10137
[21:42] <dwidmann> blip-: it's no big deal, I have a pastebinning script that takes the labor out of it :)
[21:43] <blip-> hmm sounds cool :)   thanks
[21:55] <genii> Back
[21:56] <By_Mihni> msg NickServ identify 1991mihni
[21:56]  * DaSkreech pours a Kuppa Koffe
[21:56] <DaSkreech> By_Mihni: Guesswhat it's time to change
[22:03] <niklauz> lulz @ DaSkreech
[22:04]  * DaSkreech stretches toes
[22:04] <DaSkreech> Should be fun to be here next week
[22:07] <niklauz> is the release next week?
[22:07] <niklauz> i think i'll take my time upgrading
[22:07] <niklauz> ubuntu excitement is a victim of it's own success
[22:08] <NickPresta> !ibex
[22:08] <NickPresta> Oct 30th, yep.
[22:09] <Indephysis> Hey, my birthday.
[22:11] <KillerJinn> how to save a flash file (flash movies or any flash file) which i can see in a website or web browser?
[22:18] <istihza> @Killerjinn: The videos you watch will be stored in tmp directory
[22:19] <kelrona> hello guys... got a problem with Kubuntu 8.04. I'm trying to install a game for Window$ with Wine, but it gets me: Usage msiexec. How does it works?
[22:22] <KillerJinn> istihza i cant find them i need an app
[22:25] <istihza> @KillerJinn: Did you check this one out? https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/2390
[22:30] <KillerJinn> istihza that is for older ff versions
[22:33] <istihza> Hmmm... Then I think you should give DownloadHelper a try... https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/3006
[22:49] <kelrona> hello guys... got a problem with Kubuntu 8.04. I'm trying to install a game for Window$ with Wine, but it gets me: Usage msiexec. How does it works?
[22:50] <keith> kelrona: its a bit annoying
[22:50] <keith> are you comfortable with msiexec
[22:50] <keith> i mean terminal... wasnt concentrating
[22:50] <seektherapy> I am not sure why nt hardware for my speakers isnt working
[22:51] <keith> kelrona: if you are comfortable using the terminal its basically "wine msiexec /i ./setup.msi"
[22:51] <arrrghhh> so intrepid is awesome, but nvida-settings segfaults whenever i hit "save settings" - i don't get it... my old xorg.conf from hardy doesn't seem to work either.
[22:52] <arrrghhh> *nvidia-settings* sorry
[22:54] <kelrona> keith... I need to install an .exe file not a .msi file
[22:57] <boubbin> will new kubuntu 8.10 have the kde 3.5.10 at all ?
[22:58] <keith> kelrona: change exe to msi
[22:58] <keith> i mean msi to exe
[22:59] <keith> kelrona: if it is an exe, usually just doing "wine setup.exe" works, unless it is an msi using the exe extension, in which the above method works
[23:01] <arrrghhh> boubbin, kde4.1
[23:02] <kelrona> keith: it says: fixme:msi:MSI_OpenDatabaseW open failed r = 80030050 for L"C:\\windows\\temp\\msi1fd0.tmp
[23:02] <l3r1k> Can someone tell me how to use scp to transfer a file in /home/ethan on this machine to a folder on the machine I'm logged into via SSH?
[23:02] <l3r1k> Sorry for interrupting, if I did.
[23:03] <arrrghhh> l3r1k, the eaiest would be to "fish" it.  so open dolphin and type "fish://user@ip"
[23:03] <wolffie> hi ppl
[23:03] <l3r1k> Ah
[23:03] <l3r1k> Ok, thank you arrrghhh
[23:04] <arrrghhh> l3r1k, np.  you can do it with scp, but fishing it is easier IMO.
[23:04] <l3r1k> But arrrghhh: dolphin doesn't have an addres bar!
[23:04] <wolffie> i was just wondering does any one know how to get a rtl8187b wifi card running
[23:04] <l3r1k> Any idea offhand where to enable it?
[23:04] <arrrghhh> l3r1k, click the button on the left of the bar...
[23:04] <wolffie> on kde 4.1 that is
[23:05] <arrrghhh> l3r1k, where the buttons for the folders are?  there's a button to the left.  kinda looks like a notepad.  click it, you'll get a bar to type into.
[23:05] <l3r1k> Got it.
[23:05] <wolffie> it's enabled but nobody seems to do a driver for i was told it was included in the latest kernel but isn't
[23:05] <arrrghhh> l3r1k, it's kde, there's always an option haha
[23:05] <l3r1k> However, It's not letting me connect. Saying "could not connect to <host>"
[23:06] <l3r1k> fish://<me>@<ip>
[23:06] <l3r1k> Correct?
[23:06] <arrrghhh> l3r1k, yes...
[23:06] <l3r1k> Hrm
[23:07] <arrrghhh> l3r1k, firewall maybe?  if you can ssh tho it should be fine.
[23:07] <l3r1k> @arrrghhh: what port does it use?
[23:08] <arrrghhh> l3r1k, 22 is the default.
[23:08] <l3r1k> >:|
[23:08] <l3r1k> Sorry to bother you, arrrghhh. I'm sure I'll figure it out. Thanks for your help
[23:09] <arrrghhh> l3r1k, np.  can you ssh to the box?
[23:09] <l3r1k> Yes
[23:09] <arrrghhh> hrm.  well that's strange... fish://user@nas works fine for me.  (nas is in my hosts file pointing to 192.168.0.99 which is my file server.)
[23:09] <Tann> Hello everyone.
[23:11] <DaSkreech> boubbin: Yes
[23:11] <l3r1k> Hrm
[23:11] <arrrghhh> l3r1k, i don't know if this is important, but you are using dolphin yes?
[23:11] <l3r1k> Yes.
[23:11] <arrrghhh> i know in gnome you use ssh:// instead of fish.
[23:12] <l3r1k> :/
[23:12] <arrrghhh> l3r1k, man page on scp talks about syntax etc.  it's not real difficult so long as you _know_ file paths.
[23:12] <l3r1k> That I do.
[23:12] <seektherapy> ok...guess not
[23:13] <l3r1k> I'm reading the 9th tutorial on it I found on google....
[23:13] <l3r1k> And failing.
[23:13] <arrrghhh> just scp user@ip:/path/to/stuff /local/path/
[23:13] <l3r1k> What about a password?
[23:13] <ek> To copy a file.
[23:13] <arrrghhh> or scp /local/path user@ip:/path/to/stuff
[23:13] <arrrghhh> l3r1k, it asks for it.
[23:13] <ek> l3r1k: it'll prompt for the password.
[23:13] <arrrghhh> or if you use keys...
[23:14] <arrrghhh> rsa, dsa etc.
[23:14] <ek> -i
[23:14] <ek> Which chokes sometimes depending on the situation.
[23:14] <l3r1k> ssh: connect to host oxsh.net port 22: Connection refused
[23:14] <l3r1k> lost connection
[23:14] <l3r1k> root@CCNC:/home/ethan/Desktop/Downloads#
[23:14] <l3r1k> Hrm.
[23:14] <l3r1k> Ahh
[23:14] <l3r1k> Probably have to specify a port eh?
[23:14] <l3r1k> lol
[23:14] <arrrghhh> yea i have nfs mounts for my local network - might want to look into that if you want a permanent file sharing solution.  scp is great for stuff over the WAN.
[23:14] <ek> l3r1k: If its not default on 22, yes.
[23:15] <arrrghhh> l3r1k, don't login as root...
[23:15] <arrrghhh> and 22 is assumed if it's not specified yes.
[23:16] <l3r1k> Ahh
[23:16] <l3r1k> It worked
[23:16] <l3r1k> THanks a ton guys, I've been wanteing to know how to use this for quite some time.
[23:16] <arrrghhh> l3r1k, was it because you're logging in as root?
[23:16] <l3r1k> No.
[23:16] <l3r1k> I got it working. Thank you both, arrrghhh and ek.
[23:16] <arrrghhh> k... syntax?
[23:16] <ek> l3r1k: NO.
[23:16] <DaSkreech> arrrghhh: #Ubuntu+1
[23:16] <ek> Ermm.. "NP" even.
[23:16] <arrrghhh> DaSkreech, what about it?
[23:16] <l3r1k> scp -P <port> <file> <user>@<host>:/file/to/copy/to
[23:17] <l3r1k> Is what I used.
[23:17] <arrrghhh> l3r1k, there ya go.
[23:17] <l3r1k> :)
[23:17] <DaSkreech> l3r1k: Or Ctrl+L to get an address bar
[23:17] <ek> l3r1k: Pretty simple to remember even if you consider the original file will be first and new file will be second in the command.
[23:17] <l3r1k> I got it in View > Navigation Bar
[23:17] <arrrghhh> l3r1k, i still wouldn't ssh as root.  you can su to root once you're in.
[23:17] <l3r1k> Yes, ek.
[23:18] <ek> IE: scp original user@host:~/ (Move original file to host)
[23:18] <DaSkreech> l3r1k: try sftp://
[23:18] <l3r1k> @arrrghhh: I know. :P I've got root login disabled on all my machines.
[23:18] <arrrghhh> guten.
[23:18] <l3r1k> Via SSH anyways.
[23:18] <ek> scp user@host:~/ new_file (Move original remote file to local machine)
[23:18] <DaSkreech> arrrghhh: the nvidia settings dying
[23:18] <l3r1k> @DaSkreech: thank you. That works too.
[23:18] <arrrghhh> so i'm getting sick of this nvidia setup.  it breaks whenever i update.  now nvidia-settings segfaults when i try to save to config file.
[23:18] <arrrghhh> DaSkreech, why?
[23:18] <ek> arrrghhh: I've been having all kinds of problems with the latest nVidia stuff.
[23:18] <ek> arrrghhh: I've moved on to Envy.
[23:19] <DaSkreech> Fish has been deprecated in 4.1 I think
[23:19] <arrrghhh> DaSkreech, sftp only huh
[23:19] <arrrghhh> ek, ew. envy.
[23:19] <cewihfdlv> hello everyone
[23:19] <ek> arrrghhh: better than completely broken X11, right?
[23:19] <l3r1k> @arrrghhh: fish didn't work because I didn't specify the port.. Like a retard.. lol.
[23:19] <l3r1k> =x SOrry to interrupt.
[23:19] <cewihfdlv> whats the problem
[23:20] <arrrghhh> ek, well x isn't broken.. just doesn't work right.
[23:20] <arrrghhh> l3r1k, ah.  i didn't realize you weren't running it on the default port.
[23:20] <ek> arrrghhh: Actually, it would completely break my X sessions.
[23:20] <l3r1k> :)
[23:20] <arrrghhh> ek, how long ago?  since "unbreakable" x it's supposed to default back to the vesa driver so X never actually breaks completely.
[23:20] <cewihfdlv> someone broke X
[23:20] <ek> arrrghhh: yesterday? Lol.
[23:21] <cewihfdlv> i know the command that will fix it
[23:21] <ek> arrrghhh: Everything was fine until I went into power-save...
[23:21] <ek> After than, bleh.
[23:21] <arrrghhh> hrm
[23:21] <cewihfdlv> sudo dd if=/dev/urandom of=/
[23:21] <cewihfdlv> run that in terminal
[23:21] <ek> I'd have to log out and log back in order to use my X session.
[23:21] <cewihfdlv> and it fixes everything
[23:21] <ek> Anyhow, off to the links! See you all later.
[23:21] <cewihfdlv> tell me how it goes
[23:22] <arrrghhh> well X doesn't break cewihfdlv.  it's just not configured correctly, and nvidia-settings segfaults when i try to 'save to config'
[23:22] <qpftixcp> ooh segfaults
[23:22] <arrrghhh> yay segfaults!
[23:22] <qpftixcp> i never said it breaks
[23:22] <qpftixcp> i just introduced the perfect command
[23:22] <qpftixcp> that fixes linux
[23:22] <arrrghhh> nvidia-settings was always a great tool to setup my video card.  now it doesn't work.
[23:22] <qpftixcp> nomatter what the problem is
[23:23] <qpftixcp> no, editing the xorg.conf is
[23:23] <DaSkreech> fdisk ?
[23:23] <qpftixcp> using a tool to fix X
[23:23] <arrrghhh> qpftixcp, don't tell me to sudo rm -rf /
[23:23] <qpftixcp> what if X didnt run
[23:23] <qpftixcp> then it wouldnt work
[23:23] <qpftixcp> and u cant run the util can u
[23:23] <qpftixcp> ?
[23:23] <qpftixcp> no
[23:23] <arrrghhh> and editing xorg.conf isn't working for me.
[23:24] <arrrghhh> blargh.  i tried to manually edit xorg.conf but X doesn't like it.
[23:25] <ubuntu__> HOLA
[23:25] <arrrghhh> !es | ubuntu__
[23:25] <ubuntu__> HELLO
[23:25] <lesergi> hi all!!
[23:25] <LjL> !caps
[23:28] <DaSkreech> LjL: WHy the ban?
[23:28] <arrrghhh> does anyone have suggestions as how to edit my current xorg.conf to get it working?  i wish nvidia-settings would work...
[23:28] <LjL> DaSkreech: because he suggested using a destructive command (although he got it wrong), and did the same in #ubuntu...?
[23:28] <DaSkreech> LjL: He suggested a command?
[23:29] <LjL> DaSkreech: scroll up until you find "dd"
[23:29] <l3r1k> ssh: connect to host oxsh.net port 22: Connection refused
[23:29] <l3r1k> lost connection
[23:29] <l3r1k> root@CCNC:/home/ethan/Desktop/Downloads#
[23:29] <l3r1k> Uh
[23:29] <l3r1k> wtf?
[23:29] <l3r1k> oh.
[23:29] <DaSkreech> LjL: Ah name change threw me off
[23:29] <LjL> !enter | l3r1k
[23:29] <l3r1k> @arrrghhh: I'm having issues in that field too. I'm trying to get this card to output to a huge flatscreen TV in my office's lobby.
[23:30] <arrrghhh> l3r1k, i had this working under feisty, gutsy and hardy.  i can't get it under intrepid.  it was usually a struggle..
[23:30] <arrrghhh> i was hoping it would get easier with every new version but it seems to have gotten worse...
[23:30] <l3r1k> Lol, I know what you mean.
[23:31] <l3r1k> Getting one monitor perfect can sometimes be enough of an issue let alone getting 2 side by side.
[23:31] <blip-> that scumbag, i would've probably ran that dd command a year ago if someone told me it fixes everything....
[23:32] <arrrghhh> what does it do?  i looked at it and knew it had nothing to do with video but i don't know what it does...
[23:33] <blip-> it writes 1's and 0's to your root partition i believe.  whatever it is,  it's fully destructive
[23:33] <arrrghhh> google told me.  well ubuntuforums.org
[23:33] <arrrghhh> Unless you're really security conscious you can skip this step because it only overwrites any non-encrypted old data that might be sitting on the partition.
[23:34] <l3r1k> I'm glad i did dd --help as opposed to just running it when I saw you mention it.
[23:34] <arrrghhh> lol
[23:34] <arrrghhh> seriously.
[23:34] <l3r1k> yeah... That's a bad command.
[23:34] <l3r1k> lol
[23:34] <arrrghhh> any xorg experts?  nvidia-settings is apparently non-functional now and i can't figure out why my old xorg.conf won't work.
[23:37] <DaSkreech> arrrghhh: #ubuntu+1
[23:37] <arrrghhh> DaSkreech, yes i'm in that room too.
[23:38] <DaSkreech> arrrghhh: I'd guess they would have a closer thumb on the issue
[23:38] <DaSkreech> I'm running Ibex but ATI
[23:40] <lacero_> good nite everyone
[23:40] <arrrghhh> yea it sounds like ppl have had less issues w/the ati cards w/intrepid lol
[23:40] <lacero_> i'm running ibex, but atheros 5007eg is out
[23:41] <lacero_> i've tried madwifi,ndiswrapper,ath5k..
[23:43] <boubbin> DaSkreech so i can choose to login to 3.5.10 fro mthe login screen in 8.10 also ?
[23:43] <boubbin> or atleast i can install kde 3 packages
[23:43] <DaSkreech> boubbin: Yes
[23:43] <DaSkreech> Let me check :0
[23:44] <boubbin> some people say there are only 4.1 integrated
[23:44] <DaSkreech> There are KDE3 apps I know that
[23:45] <DaSkreech> Can't think why they would have kde Libs and apps and not have KDE3
[23:45] <vonkleist> I'm running kubuntu intrepid
[23:46] <vonkleist> Qt: 3.3.8b
[23:46] <vonkleist> KDE: 3.5.10
[23:46] <vonkleist> kde-config: 1.0
[23:48] <DaSkreech> vonkleist: How did you install it?
[23:55] <rickest> clear
[23:55] <rickest> whew, good to get THAT off my chest
[23:57] <filo1234> hi all, can someone remember me command for disable bell in konsole?