[00:01] <\Kira> it comes out on oct. 30, so it should be pretty stable by now, but dont take my word for it [00:01] f|uke: good point. [00:01] \Kira: i liked death-note [00:01] the release candidate comes out soon, and i already have the iso for the beta. [00:02] has anyone encountered 'issues' with the beta though [00:02] <\Kira> ret: Yea, not were I got the name from originally, but after I saw it I loved it. Too bad light died :( [00:02] \Kira: very shit ending. [00:02] <\Kira> ret: I think it added realism, and in the directors cut light doesnt die forever. [00:03] hmm. [00:03] hi i downloaded the the new version of ubuntu, but a few things dont work does any one know how to install the old headers they dont seem to show up in synaptic [00:03] <\Kira> ret: but yes, I wished he had won. But I could just see it coming with how confident he was [00:04] <\Kira> ret: in the directors cut he becomes a shimigami, following the rule that he will go to "nothingness", meaning the shimigami world, but this isnt the place to get in depth about a anime :P [00:05] When installing Kubuntu 8.10, it doesn't continue after the keyboard layout screen, just disables the buttons, any ideas? [00:05] *beta [00:05] \Kira, word. [00:06] This thing runs better on a Dell Inspiron 531 workstation than my own System76 machine :| [00:09] err.. maybe my CD-Rs are rubbish [00:09] seems to be doing something now. [00:09] ? [00:09] Trying to figure out why my install screen was stuck. But it is moving now. === echidnaman is now known as JontheEchidna [00:25] is there a way to make the volume on my computer louder? It seems that when I upgraded to Intrepid it just isn't as loud === i8860054_ is now known as After_Math [00:29] After_Math: check alsamixer, maybe one of the other mixer volumes isn't up enough [00:30] Pici, ok thank you. [00:31] Looks like they are all max except capture, which I am not sure of what it is. [00:31] Hrm. [00:43] Last week I had a functioning Hardy install. While trying to get my new AT&T USBConnect Mercury USB modem to work I followed a suggestion to upgrade to Intrepid. Now I still can't get the USB modem to work and I lost my Broadcom wireless card too. I haven't found the solution in the forums. Anyone out there able to point me in the right direction? [00:45] type iwlist scan [00:45] what comes up? [00:46] lo Interface doesn't support scanning. [00:46] eth0 Interface doesn't support scanning. [00:46] wmaster0 Interface doesn't support scanning. [00:46] wlan0 No scan results [00:46] pan0 Interface doesn't support scanning. [00:54] hi there. when is RC1 due out? [00:55] squid0: Final release is out on the 30th [00:55] !schedule | squid0 [00:55] squid0: A schedule of Intrepid Ibex (8.10) release milestones can be found here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IntrepidReleaseSchedule [00:55] thanks, folks [00:55] hody. i've installed intrepid beta using a livecd. ive installed cryptsetup and lvm2, loaded modules and i did all the things that have to be done. after reboot all things are working ok. except one thing that is kinda odd. after some updates, don't know exactly which ones, the initramfs was updated. i got this message: "cryptsetup: NOTE: using /dev/mapper/vg-lv1 instead of /dev/vg/lv1 for lvr" in this message vg is the lvm2 volume group and lv1 [00:55] is the second partion on this volume group opened with cryptsetup luksOpen as lvr and mounted as / [00:56] what would the practical differences be between RC and final version? [00:57] in general? [00:57] s/hody/howdy [00:57] Hopefully nothing. [00:57] cool [00:57] hello, i did the upgrade from 8.04 to 8.10 and now my graphics always say it needs to go into safe mode and didn't load the nvidia gpu driver or something like that. what can i do? [00:58] (Kubuntu, by the way. kubuntu channel recommened i come here for video advice) [00:58] the problem may not be a real problem but if i use a different /etc/crypttab, and instead /dev/vg/lv1 i use /dev/mapper/vg-lv1 the system won't boot. [01:00] manoman, do you still have the old driver installed? [01:00] i'm not sure... i just ran the upgrade [01:00] if it retains old drivers, then yes. [01:01] (the screen also flashes ever 10 seconds or so) [01:01] i'm not sure if it does. did you checked the packages that had to be removed and those that had to be installed? [01:01] manoman: could you pastebin /var/log/Xorg.0.log ? [01:02] yeah [01:02] * manoman rolls over to linux box [01:02] anyone get this while upgrading: unable to make backup link of `./usr/share/applications/synaptic-kde.desktop' before installing new version [01:03] http://www.pastebin.ca/1233310 [01:04] mkhlnsh: i didn't do a package by package check, i'm not knowledgeable to know which apply to the different versions [01:04] JontheEchidna: does that pastebin show anything useful? [01:04] sorta :P [01:05] I think that's the output from the failsafe session [01:05] i'm in failsafe now [01:05] yeah, unfortunately the failsafe overwrote the log telling what happened when the proprietary driver failed [01:06] I'm not familiar with the failsafe, but is there a way you can drop down to the command line without booting X? [01:06] manoman, check if ya still have the old driver installed. [01:06] mkhlnsh: how do i do that? adept? [01:07] use any package manager [01:07] JontheEchidna: i can init 1 or whatever you need [01:07] manoman: actually you can probably press crtl alt f1 to get to a console [01:07] cp the log file somewhere else, then paste that [01:08] how can I burn a 12gb tar.gz file onto more than one dvd ? [01:08] by splitting it up. [01:09] ret how can I do that? [01:09] ok, i've tty1 open [01:09] joshual: how big is a dvd? [01:10] manoman, backup your xorg.conf and after that try "reset" it using: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg [01:10] i think X is still running though (in the failsafe mode) [01:10] good, you extract the archive, and create seperate archives of dvdsize. [01:10] relatively simple, i reckon. [01:10] manoman: ah, that sucks. failsafe never was handy for debugging issues [01:10] ret 4.7gb [01:11] it seems the failsafe's greatest advantage (not leaving you at the console) is also it's greatest disadvantage [01:11] joshual: so, divide your archives into 4.7GB bits, which leaves you about 3 dvds. [01:11] there are some tools that do this automagically. [01:11] but i'm not sure. [01:12] divide is a pretty broad term [01:12] mkhlnsh: ok, i ran that. it said something about backing up a conf file and dropped back to the cmd line. [01:12] JontheEchidna: sounds like it :) [01:12] mkhlnsh: should that command have started a wizard or anything? [01:12] or should i reboot X now? [01:12] manoman, ctrl+alt+f7 and then ctrl+alt+backspace [01:15] about ship-it, which 8.10 version will be send? [01:15] x32 or x64?? [01:16] there is no information about it [01:16] is there a way to go back to hardy? [01:16] ust :"Just enter your address below and we will send you 1 Ubuntu CD of the 8.10 (Intrepid Ibex) release. " [01:16] I restarted x, it loaded with out erros [01:16] intrepid doesn't support my graphics card [01:17] but it looks like 3d inst enabled and the screen still flashes every 10 seconds [01:17] and open office isn't working correctly [01:18] grizlo42: there isn't [01:19] damnit [01:19] Chiku: I'm not sure, but if it doesn't offer a choice for amd64, it's undoubtedly x86 [01:19] manoman, is the old driver still installed? [01:19] i dont think so, but im not sure [01:20] for 8.04, you can choice [01:20] i have an old geforce, and it doesn't work, and every doc i try to open in oppenoffice ends uppp with just 1 word on each line [01:20] manoman, what driver did you had installed? nvidia-glx-new? [01:21] and nothing will print on my old laserjet printer [01:21] Nvidia glx 177, which i removed... but i still see nvidia modal alias and nvidai kernel source [01:22] manoman, 177 is not the "old" one. is not from 8.04. did you installed it before upgrade? [01:23] no, after the upgrade it booted to safe mode and i selected to install the latest 3d driver [01:23] does rc released it yet? [01:23] !schedule | Chiku [01:23] Chiku: A schedule of Intrepid Ibex (8.10) release milestones can be found here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IntrepidReleaseSchedule [01:27] ok I though it was for 21th [01:27] Hi folks - just upgraded to Intrepid today, except for a few quirks it went fine, but I have one odd and slightly annoying issue: When trying to open a folder in my Places menu, it says there was an error running the subprocess audacious! Why does it think it should run audacious? [01:27] manoman, you should try to find out what packages have bee installed and which have not. i had the same problem as you, updated from 8.04 and didn't installed all packages. i ended reinstalling 8.10 from scratch. maybe you have more luck... [01:27] is anyone in here familiar with v4l in intrepid? I downloaded the latest and 'make,' but it fails with http://pastie.org/297653 [01:27] I have a card that works, if I can just get v4l to build [01:28] ok thanks for trying [01:32] alternatively, anyone familiar with totem's mythtv plugin? [01:34] whats the user switch applet called now... I cant seem to find it [01:35] is intrepid support for intel X4500 ? [01:36] my firefox lost its windows decorations [01:37] KillerKiwi2005: logout (has currently no symbol in the list) [01:37] Dedi, then how can I add it to the panel ? [01:38] is it safe to do an update right now guys? [01:38] richtkilck, add to panel, search for "logout" [01:39] Storrgie: no not at all, wait until release [01:39] that is just a log out applet.. it dosnt display the current user [01:39] if you want to be realy safe then i would wait another 2 weeks [01:39] Dedi: im running 8.10.... i mean can i update right now? [01:40] KillerKiwi2005: i have to entries after klickin on it: log out and switch user [01:40] Storrgie: ah, more or less its safe, of course there still can anything get broken [01:40] like my firefox window decoration :D [01:42] hi; firefox has been crashing on gmail and other js-intensive/flash pages since i upgraded, is this known? [01:43] im so excited for the new ubuntu... [01:43] well its broken more than fixed things for me :\ [02:01] so... [02:01] no visualiation on rhythmbox yet? [02:16] where can I get the intrepid nightlys? [02:18] anybody know when Intrepid-RC will be released? [02:26] i need help on xorg.conf and nvidia 6600 on ubuntu 8.10 [02:27] Hey. I just plugged in my iPod and it's asking me what I want to do with a digital audio player. Then it tells me to select an application, but the drop-down menu is disabled and all I can do is eject or nothing. [02:27] How do I add an application to the menu? [02:27] I've upgraded to 8.10 beta this morning, anyone got any idea's why the session manager is not remembering the running programs? [02:31] so, if i upgraded the nvidia driver to 177 and have noticed that i have glitches with it, and restored the old driver, and restored the old xorg.conf, why does ubuntu keep telling me that it's unable to start the nvidia kernel, and keeps running in low graphics mode? where else does ubuntu store graphic information? [02:36] Howdy all - How goes the Testing. :) [02:36] Hi, sorry. I recently asked a question. [02:36] I just plugged in my iPod and it's asking me what I want to do with a digital audio player. Then it tells me to select an application, but the drop-down menu is disabled and all I can do is eject or nothing. [02:36] How do I add an application to the menu? [02:37] hmm, reiserFS fails to partition things in the BETA. [02:37] am i the only one to notice this? [02:37] Trying to track down why on my laptop i get a message like --> [ 2057.280065] hub 4-0:1.0: unable to enumerate USB device on port 5 [02:37] - spamming the consoles and dmesg out put.. over and over.. I unplug every USB device on the laptop and am still not sure what its mad about.. I wonder if it could be the built in usb cam. I did not notice this message yesterday. [02:37] Anyone know? === PrymaL is now known as PryMaL [02:37] MindVirus, theres a menu editor utility, in the repos..or i thinkyou may be able to just right clck on the Gnomemenu now a days [02:38] My Ubuntu box is upstairs so i cant check :) [02:38] Not the Gnome menu. [02:38] alacarte - might be the name of the menu editor tool [02:38] ... [02:38] Please read the question. [02:38] Alacarte comes with Ubuntu now. [02:38] You can right click to change the menus -- pretty sweet. :) [02:38] has anyone else encounterd problems using reiserfs in the partition manager? [02:39] I just saw 'how do i an add an application to the menu' :) [02:39] seriously considering gutting the iwl3945 out of this laptop and replacing with an Atheros 57XX series... [02:39] dr_willis, of course. [02:39] I dont have an ipod to veryfi/check MindVirus sorry. [02:39] I understand. [02:40] the one thing ive never owned - a mp3 player. :) [02:40] is there like a ddtool for ubuntu/linux? [02:40] ret, is that the dynamic DNS thing? [02:40] erm, no -- driver detection. [02:40] Ehh, I see. [02:41] I have never heard of 'ddtool' then. - you are refering to a windows utility? [02:41] it's an opensolaris tool, really [02:41] it checks the computer against opensolaris drivers. [02:41] to see which ones are and aren't available; it works on multiple-OSes. [02:42] maybe i'll code one up. [02:42] i daresay it'll be useful. [02:42] ;] [02:46] When I plugin headphones I still get sound from my laptop's internal speaker [02:47] heh === Jordan_U_ is now known as Jordan_U [02:48] Hi, I have found that I might be able to show my backup files.....I did this by ALT +F2, typing gconf-editor and in that i navigate desktop/gnome/file-views/show_backup_files/ I have check the box to view backup files but they are not showing...is there something else I'm supposed to do [03:01] hello, i'v seen that ubuntu 8.10 has write support with ntfs module... how safe is that? since I don't know how does the development of the ntfs module goes [03:01] guiss: Hardy already has stable write support [03:02] Jordan_U, I didn't use hardy [03:02] Jordan_U, but if it's stable, all right [03:05] hi all I have aproblem [03:06] just say it and maybe we can answer it [03:07] hello mates [03:07] whats new? [03:09] guiss: i have never had troubles with ntfs write support. Shouldn't have any troubles with it. [03:09] I just got two xw8200 HP's and they have nidia quad core 256M cards in them I tried to load the beta release as 8.04 does not load correctly on these machine any help would be nice [03:10] Splex, the last time I used ntfs was when it started to have write support but I was using ntfs-3g [03:10] chuxxsss, what is the problem? [03:10] guiss: Intrepid still uses ntfs-3g [03:11] yes [03:11] Jordan_U, but in /etc/fstab it says ntfs, not ntfs-3g [03:11] hello [03:11] guiss: It's still using ntfs-3g [03:11] chuxxsss: you didn't say what problem you are having :D [03:11] I am having problems with my bluetooth mice, it works when I pair it.. but when i reboot it doesn't see the mice.. [03:12] Jordan_U, does ntfs point to ntfs-3g? [03:12] Just got two xw8200's and having problems loading any ubuntu OS's on them. Both have Nvidia quadro fx 256 M cards in them [03:12] Jordan_U, how come? [03:12] chuxxsss, what happens when you run ubuntu? [03:12] I have to turn on, off the mice and then it works.. is there a way I can avoid that? [03:12] guiss: Because ntfs-3g is the sane choice for mounting ntfs partitions [03:13] Jordan_U, yes... but fstab says ntfs and not ntfs-3g, that's where I seem to miss something [03:14] chuxxsss, you tried the latest beta? is the screen blank when you load X? [03:14] ? [03:15] goes through to ubuntu start up screen then goes to tex mode after load live system but doesn't work at all with 8.10 may have wrong version I have the AMD64 version I think this is wrong for the CPU system I may be wrong [03:15] can't get X [03:16] anyone know how to get the bluetooth mouse to work on reboot (without having to turn th emose off/on again?) [03:16] I'm using a live pentoo CD to talk now [03:16] it work go figure [03:16] either ubuntu version will work, but amd64 version is optimized for your system and gives you 64 bit support.. [03:16] the live cd works? [03:17] guiss: As far as I understand what you specify to mount ( and in the fstab ) is the fstype, not the method used to mount that fstype, normally there are corresponding modules of the same name that are used to mount that fstype but that does not have to be the case [03:17] Thank Splex [03:17] so who loves ar5007eg support! [03:17] I got a lot of errorswith the 64 version [03:18] chuxxsss, the live cd? [03:18] Adremelech: for me, its so so, it broke my mouse though [03:18] wang: it works for me, but is horribly slow (1Mb/s) [03:19] no pentoo is what I am using right now live but I like using ubuntu. [03:19] Is the live image perisstency problem that hardy had fixed in intrepid? [03:19] chuxxsss: have you tried the 32bit version livecd [03:19] Adremelech: once I pair the mouse using the applet it works; but once I reboot I have to turn on/off the mouse to get it to work [03:20] chuxxsss, did you try the intrepid beta live cd for 32 bit and/or 64bit? or were you just booting off your existing installation? [03:20] how does a wireless drive brake a mouse :| [03:20] *driver [03:20] I have linux magazine august 2008 here it loads then gots to tex screen ?box is the last thing it did [03:20] 64 bit [03:20] Adremelech: not sure.. it was perfectly working with 8.04; but broke with 8.10 [03:21] interesting [03:21] then system has a new HD in it not formatted yet [03:22] Adremelech: brb, let me reboot again [03:22] got the system at Auction yesterday [03:22] chuxxsss, so it is the latest iso that you downloaded? [03:22] chuxxsss: does ubuntu even support dual sli configs? [03:22] just a hour ago [03:23] I do not no sorry td123 [03:23] im pretty sure linux doesn support dual sli :| [03:23] new x said it did but Im just trying to get it to work first [03:24] great [03:24] chuxxsss, did you try the latest nvidia driver?\ [03:24] Im only using one monitor [03:25] no Splex as I need to at lest get the OS install to start with [03:26] is the HW supported for HP XW8200 [03:27] chuxxsss, i think you can do a text install using the ubuntu-alternate install cd [03:27] ? [03:28] look I no some stuff but how do I do it [03:28] there are different versions of ubuntu you can download including desktop, server and alternate [03:28] http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/8.10/ [03:28] yes I no that much [03:29] how can I make a desktop search? [03:29] how do I get x work after installing alternate if it works [03:30] chuxxsss, try installing envyng and using that to install the latest nvidia driver from the terminal [03:31] hold on I will write it down [03:31] chuxxsss, sudo apt-get install envyng-core [03:32] thank Splex [03:32] chuxxsss, http://albertomilone.com/envyngfaq.html#A [03:33] got it thank you Splex [03:34] chuxxsss, np [03:35] will start to download it on one of the other machines [03:37] Anyone having issues with Quod Libet? [03:38] Because I am. [03:38] It's not starting. [03:41] hey [03:41] ayone have the same problem I have? with bluetooth mouse after reboot? [03:43] http://pastebin.com/d1174a7fa [03:44] I don't know what to do. [03:44] I tried reinstalling quodlibet, dbus, python-dbus [03:44] Doesn't fix anything. [03:46] MindVirus: 8.10 is looking like a bad release IMHO [03:46] The release itself seems fine. [03:46] They just have to do some final fixing, I'm sure. [03:46] The only gripe I have is that it's not that much of an upgrade. [03:47] MindVirus: it acutally broke my bluetooth mouse from 8.04 [03:47] which is driving me crazy [03:47] MindVirus, seems to happen to me only when my ipod is plugged in to my computer. [03:47] Same. [03:47] I think. [03:47] Let me check. [03:48] anyone here running intrepid ibex and have a weird bug where the panel doesn't change themes when you change control themes? [03:48] jgoss, it's really killing me. [03:48] mine is always stuck on the default human theme although the rest of the controls change [03:50] jgoss, yes, same thing here. [03:54] ShiftyPowers: it works for me, although I had to restart x to change some controls completely from using the old theme :/ [03:56] td123: yeah, it's weird for me [03:56] will try restarting [03:57] Yeah... Dbus is not interacting with my iPod. [03:57] What to do? [04:03] Who is in charge of the jockey updates? [04:05] Oh yeah, who is the "Luke" that has the PulseAudio 0.9.13 repo? [04:05] http://www.pulseaudio.org/ticket/352 [04:05] "Fixed in current git" [04:07] anyone got the compiz crash fix? [04:09] unavailable: what crash exactly? [04:11] DanaG: themuso [04:11] (most likely) [04:11] icanhas: pitti [04:11] icanhas: (i think) [04:12] Hobbsee: Oh, where do I tell him(or her) that he(or she) is awesome? [04:12] icanhas: #ubuntu-devel, in a few hours time? [04:13] Yeah, I think it was themuso. [04:13] icanhas: oh, and you can join the ~we-love-pitti launchpad team as well, if you like :) [04:13] icanhas: he's german, so he's asleep now [04:13] when i upgrade to intrepid, is kde4 going to be installed as standard ? can i stop it doing that ? heh [04:14] wishie: yes, and no [04:14] * DanaG has 'decapitated' the Gateway laptop. [04:14] The LCD died completely... so I just removed the lid assembly, just for the heck of it. [04:14] but what if people dont want to use kde4 ? is kde3 still available in intrepid ? [04:14] no [04:14] Now it really IS headless. =þ [04:14] if you want kde3, don't upgrade [04:14] DanaG: defenestrate it too? :P [04:14] Hobbsee: but i have to, to use 2.6.27 apparently.. [04:15] Nope, can't do that. I'll use it headlessly, instead. [04:15] Hobbsee: or compile 2.6.27 kernel myself, without the ubuntu patches and splash etc [04:15] darn [04:17] Headless... just in time for Halloween. [04:17] Hey all... when I boot my machine running Intrepid, I get the Ubuntu splash screen, and then I get a screen with a yellow background and the mouse pointer, but the mouse won't move, and nothing else happens... any ideas? [04:18] splex can I paste what the xorg.conf says in gentoo live may help someone other than me [04:18] hmm, anyone know where i can get the 'broken-out' patches applied to the hardy/intrepid kernels ? ill apply them by hand to 2.6.27 and massage it into hardy :P [04:18] i think some people said the nikond40 camera autodetect was working in 8.10; its still broken for me [04:19] wishie: patches.ubuntu.com [04:19] It was working up until Oct 9, when I did an update... I've since used ctrl-alt-f1 to get to the console and done an apt-get update and upgrade, but still getting the same issue... I'm running the x64 distro if that makes a difference [04:22] MindVirus, I've reported the bug at launchpad. It's bug #287334 . You could confirm it and hopefully a solution will arrive eventually. [04:22] Launchpad bug 287334 in quodlibet "Quodlibet fails to open if an ipod is connected to the computer." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/287334 [04:25] Hobbsee: do you know 'themuso'? [04:26] If I apt-get build-dep the PulseAudio packages, will it stop saying autoconf is too old? [04:26] Hobbsee: grr, cant find a nice easy list of the applied patches in there, yet.. ill have to dig further [04:28] I don't mind building stuff myself... as long as it actually builds. [04:30] DanaG, what issue are you having? [04:31] ahh ok, i can just 'apt-get source' the linux-image-2.6.24-generic, then check debian/patches dir in the resulting download.. thats easier. [04:31] Last time I tried to build PulseAudio myself, it said autoconf was too old. [04:31] I need the git version for fixed zeroconf (see ticket above:) [04:31] http://www.pulseaudio.org/ticket/352 [04:34] DanaG, I just had problems compiling Banshee because autoconf is too new. Go figure? [04:36] there are multiple autoconf versions in the repository [04:38] luke will probably allocate some time to repackaging pulse 9.13 if you file a bug about this [04:45] hi all [04:45] anybody in? [04:46] hi mike [04:46] hi [04:47] I can't open update manager, when I try in terminal, it gives Valueerror: Bad Marshal Data from urllib2.py, can someone help me figure out the issue? [04:48] i just recently ran all the updates in intrepid (which has worked b e a utifully) and it undid compiz so when i apt-get compiz it reinstalled and it dissabled my video diver now when i try to install the driver compiz requires to work (nvidia 173) it gets to 60% and crashes every time and reboooting doesent solve it. so im stuck in low graphics mode and cant install the driver what should i do? [04:49] also, I can't get medibuntu repos to work, it always says that it has no public key, is this a unique problem, or have others been having the same issue? [04:49] mike1, what gets to 60%? [04:49] I'm guessing the download [04:49] or installation process [04:50] bsnider: the nvidia 173 driver download in hardware drivers [04:50] hi is fglrx already working? [04:50] in jockey [04:50] you don't need jockey to get the nvidia driver to work [04:50] fglrx is working yes [04:50] so whado i do? [04:50] i wrote a detailed post that anyone can follow to get theri nvidia driver working [04:50] bsnider, how i get fglrx? can u link me? [04:51] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=5952369#post5952369 [04:51] romulo, use jockey [04:51] someone work with the ibex install? [04:51] oh also my sound stopped after the updates any posts on that? [04:51] the 'hardware drivers" manager or whatever it's called now [04:52] mike1, that could be any of a million different causes [04:52] one thing at a time [04:52] mike1: have you checked in the Preferences menu under sound to see which lib it's using? [04:52] lemme get graphics driver working and we'll come back to sound [04:53] good call ;) [04:54] can someone help with my install problem please [04:54] bsnider, i click activate for fglrx and nothing happens on jockey :P [04:54] madkat, go ahead and tell us what the problem is [04:55] I just burnt the disk, ran it through the media check and it passed, and I get "[Errno 5] Input/output error: '/rofs/usr/share/doc/libilmbase6'" after it formats. [04:55] romulo, i gues sthey haven't fixed jockey then. i'm not an ati guy. i know you need to get dkms to build and install the fglrx module and you need a usable xorg.conf file. beyond that, you'll havet o get help from someone else [04:56] bsnider: i have and 8xxx sieries but when i try to use compiz it tells me i need the 173 driver to make everything work and your post sais its best for me to use 177 (which i was using before i tryed to use compiz) so what exactly is going on here? [04:56] thanks bsnider may need it too ones the alt cd DLs [04:56] mike1, you need the 177 driver period. do what my post tells you to [04:56] lol [04:56] ok i'll get it goin [04:56] i'm such a jerk [04:57] well lemme try 177 from jocky real quick [04:57] bsnider, hmm thanks. whats dkms? i tried to build it with module-assistant but it failed. I might need to redownload the sources, will try that thanks! [04:57] the 173 driver will work for that card too, but it isn't what nvidia recommends for post-5k cards [04:58] lol 177 chrashed at 77% i guss its back to your post :D [04:58] dkms is "distributed kernel module source" -- it's a system for automatically rebuilding modules into new kernels without a lot of heavy lifting [05:00] hmm cool [05:00] ah, so if I want to use the restricted driver on GeForce GO! 6150, I should also use the 177 driver? [05:00] testing - think i disconnected [05:00] i need to get more familliar with terminal, i know the basics but i prefer how mutch better everything works in terminal so i need to learn more [05:00] romulo: hear you clearly [05:00] cool [05:00] brb [05:01] romulo: nope your good [05:01] gaelfx, yes [05:01] bsnider: thanks for the heads up man, that's the next thing on my list [05:01] but given my past with this card and ubuntu, I'm really wary of putting it on here since things are working ok without it [05:02] bsnider: i got this error Errors were encountered while processing: [05:02] /var/cache/apt/archives/nvidia-glx-177_177.80-0ubuntu2_amd64.deb [05:02] E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) [05:02] oops to many lines [05:02] use pastebin [05:02]