[13:47]  * Hobbsee waves
[13:53] <Hobbsee> no one's interested in making an icon, apparently?
[13:54] <thorwil> waving means "is anyone interested in making an icon?"?
[13:55] <Hobbsee> thorwil: no, but apparently you guys got asked before :)
[13:55]  * thorwil suspects he missed something
[13:55] <Hobbsee> anyway, it'd be really cool if someone felt like making an icon for system-cleaner
[13:55] <Hobbsee> me too - i can't find it on your art list either, but i'm told it's been done.
[13:56] <Hobbsee> it doesn't have an icon, and looks rather sad with all the other things in the menu that *do* have icons
[13:56] <thorwil> i don't recall such a request on the list and usually i do pay attention there
[13:57] <Hobbsee> oh well.  Not trying to throw any blame around.  It's just what I'd been told, so thought had probably happened.
[13:58] <thorwil> well, my todo list is too long already and recently it didn't look like anyone else on the list is willing / up to working on requests :/
[13:59] <andreasn> Hobbsee: what app is that, is there a website/wiki page somewhere?
[14:00] <Hobbsee> andreasn: the app is system cleaner, it's on a default ubuntu intrepid install
[14:00] <andreasn> oh, I need to check that out then.
[14:01] <Hobbsee> not sure on a wiki page, etc.
[14:01] <thorwil> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CleanupCruft
[14:02] <Hobbsee> ah ha.  I knew there should be one somewhere, i was just searching for the wrong things.
[18:01] <thorwil> good evening rsc-
[18:01] <rsc-> hi thor
[18:04] <__mikem> I have a question. When ever you click on a drop down menu, a box appears around that item, and another box appears below that item for all the sub items, theres a line where the two boxes touch eachother that I want to remove so that it looks more like a tab. How do I do that?
[18:06] <thorwil> __mikem: i would guess that current theme engines simply don't allow that
[18:09] <__mikem> thorwil, are you sure :(
[18:11] <Cimi> __mikem, menus and menubar are into two different -windows-
[18:11] <Cimi> you can't do such thing without an hack
[18:11] <Cimi> currently only the experience engine support this
[18:13] <__mikem> the experience engine? Whats that?
[18:13] <Cimi> it's a pixmap engine
[18:13] <__mikem> Is it possible to install it?
[18:13] <Cimi> sure
[18:14] <__mikem> Is it stable?
[18:15] <__mikem> http://imagebin.ca/view/FJgMzF7.html <--- it would be really cool if the menus looked like this
[18:16] <__mikem> What package is experience in?
[18:17] <Cimi> http://benjamin.sipsolutions.net/screenshots/menu-hack/1.png
[18:17] <lucazade> +1 for menu hack
[18:19] <__mikem> so where can I download it?
[18:20] <lucazade> it looks pretty :)
[18:20] <Cimi> http://benjamin.sipsolutions.net/debian/pool/main/g/gtk-engine-experience/
[18:20] <Cimi> http://benjamin.sipsolutions.net/debian/pool/main/g/gtk2-themes-experience/
[18:22] <__mikem> the thing is complaining about a conflict with libgtk2.0-0
[18:23] <Cimi> you should need to recompile it, then
[18:23] <Cimi> search for experience on that website
[18:24] <__mikem> I hate compiling these things :(
[18:29] <__mikem> lucazade, how do I do the menu hack?
[18:30] <lucazade> never tried so far
[18:30] <lucazade> sorry no idea
[18:42] <thorwil> kwwii: hi! http://xs432.xs.to/xs432/08433/get_8_10_02206.png
[18:46]  * __mikem wishes there was a graphical gtk theme editor. I can't make heads or tails ofthe gtk theme scripts
[18:51] <kwwii> __mikem: you and me both :p
[18:52] <kwwii> thorwil: hrm, the pill, although it looks like a button is still not my favorite
[18:53] <kwwii> thorwil: I still think 1 or 2 is better
[18:53] <kwwii> and in any case I like the dark ones best
[18:53]  * kwwii goes to band practice
[18:53] <thorwil> kwwii: no opinion on the latest addition from mathew yet
[18:53] <thorwil> kwwii: urgs, have fun! :)
[18:54] <kwwii> will do...see you
[19:02] <__mikem> I am trying to try the themes that came with this eXperience theme engine, but every tiem I select one, this message appears saying "This theme willnotlook as intendedbecause the required GTK+ theme 'eXperience- ice' is not installed
[19:02] <__mikem> But I installed the theme packages
[20:15] <__mikem> Is there any way to remove borders completely from drop down menus?