| evand | 17:41:47 < cjwatson> evand: something like http://paste.ubuntu.com/60697/ maybe? | 00:02 |
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| evand | kirkland: ^ apply that to /lib/partman/fstab.d/hostboot | 00:02 |
| evand | and see if it still hangs | 00:02 |
| evand | before you hit partman in d-i, that is | 00:03 |
| evand | gotta run out again, unfortunately. Back in a little bit. | 00:03 |
| kirkland | evand: that pastebin patch didn't work as is | 00:41 |
| kirkland | evand: i'm looking at it a bit more | 00:41 |
| kirkland | cjwatson: ^ | 00:46 |
| cjwatson | how did it fail? | 00:47 |
| cjwatson | it certainly shouldn't have been in the same way | 00:47 |
| cjwatson | although I can believe that it is busted somehow, it was totally untested | 00:47 |
| kirkland | cjwatson: i'm reading the patch, and I don't quite get it... | 00:47 |
| kirkland | cjwatson: so this "loop" file shows up | 00:48 |
| cjwatson | yes, that indicates that the device is a loop-mount | 00:49 |
| cjwatson | it's set by autopartition-loop | 00:49 |
| kirkland | cjwatson: hmm, okay, so the situation i'm hitting is: /boot on a raid1 of 2 disks, and / on a raid5 of 3 disks | 00:50 |
| kirkland | cjwatson: that's sort of my setup on a few servers, seems reasonable | 00:51 |
| cjwatson | are you actually using wubi? | 00:51 |
| kirkland | cjwatson: when doing so, installer "hangs", with several instances of 07root_on_raid | 00:51 |
| kirkland | cjwatson: looking at 07root_on_raid's code, running "ext3" seems to hang | 00:52 |
| kirkland | cjwatson: i've never run wubi in my life | 00:52 |
| kirkland | i'm wonder if we've gotten our bugs crossed........ | 00:52 |
| kirkland | cjwatson: i got the impression from evand and yourself that hostboot farkage might be at the root of this problem | 00:53 |
| cjwatson | if you get a hang on open_infifo, it's because something fucked up the parted_server communication | 00:55 |
| cjwatson | it could be basically anything that ran just before it | 00:55 |
| cjwatson | it's like a malloc failure, manifesting after the actual cause | 00:56 |
| cjwatson | we need to see the partman log again from after you applied that patch | 00:56 |
| cjwatson | syslog wouldn't hurt either, just in case some shell script died in the middle | 00:56 |
| kirkland | cjwatson: http://pastebin.com/f7500f9d6 | 00:57 |
| kirkland | cjwatson: http://pastebin.com/f70d3af56 | 00:57 |
| kirkland | cjwatson: i inadvertentantly left off DEBCONF_DEBUG=developer | 00:58 |
| kirkland | :-/ | 00:58 |
| cjwatson | http://pastebin.com/f70d3af56 breaks. try paste.ubuntu.com please? | 01:01 |
| cjwatson | "Fatal error: Allowed memory size of 8388608 bytes exhausted (tried to allocate 1154191 bytes) in /home/pastebin/lib/geshi/geshi.php on line 2474" | 01:01 |
| kirkland | cjwatson: shite, okay | 01:02 |
| kirkland | cjwatson: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/60747/ | 01:03 |
| kirkland | cjwatson: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/60748/ | 01:03 |
| cjwatson | kirkland: hmm, still hostboot - you sure you applied that patch? | 01:16 |
| cjwatson | kirkland: and can you see what's happening in ps output? | 01:17 |
| NCommander | Have there been any recent installation reports with grub failing to install ? | 01:17 |
| NCommander | (alternate i386) | 01:18 |
| cjwatson | kirkland: I'm fading fast, going to have to come back to this in the morning | 01:18 |
| kirkland | cjwatson: sorry, family obligations here on my end | 01:45 |
| kirkland | cjwatson: let's revisit tomorrow | 01:45 |
| kirkland | cjwatson: the hostboot: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/60765/ | 01:47 |
| kirkland | cjwatson: ps -ef > http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/60766/ | 01:47 |
| StevenK | It appears I can't run partman under Ubiquity with --automatic and debugging, since it dies with an AssertionError | 05:24 |
| evand | StevenK: it should work fine as that's the debug-ubiquity kernel command line argument. What's the assertion error? | 05:25 |
| StevenK | assert self.extra_choice is not None | 05:26 |
| StevenK | ubiquity/components/partman.py:422 | 05:26 |
| * evand raises an eyebrow | 05:26 | |
| evand | and this only happens with both --debug and --automatic enabled? | 05:27 |
| evand | if that's the case I suspect there is some very bad interaction in debconf land. | 05:28 |
| StevenK | So it seems. I can copy the debug log out of the way and then try with just --automatic if you wish | 05:28 |
| evand | you shouldn't need to move the debug log, but give it a try with just automatic (on a fresh debconf db) | 05:28 |
| * StevenK has forgotten how to wipe debconf's database | 05:29 | |
| persia | StevenK, You don't want to wipe completely, or you lose the preseeding. Maybe reboot? | 05:30 |
| StevenK | Then I lose the debug log | 05:31 |
| evand | indeed, I don't know of any way to revert to the intial state short of keeping a copy of /var/cache/debconf/config.dat handy. | 05:31 |
| * StevenK scp's off the log | 05:32 | |
| persia | StevenK, You probably want /var/log/partman and /var/log/syslog to go with that. | 05:33 |
| StevenK | evand: Right, it doesn't break with 'ubiquity --automatic' but it does ask the question | 05:51 |
| persia | StevenK, Same initial setup, partman breaks with -d and --automatic isn't skipping a question (but you can't get to that question with debug)? | 05:53 |
| StevenK | persia: Suprisingly, it did skip the username question | 05:53 |
| persia | Which question is it asking when you say "it does ask the question"? | 05:54 |
| * StevenK reboots, and tries it from the icon | 05:54 | |
| StevenK | persia: How to partition the hard disk | 05:54 |
| evand | hrm, perhaps it's a red herring. Do the logs show anything interesting? Perhaps partman bailed out? | 05:54 |
| StevenK | evand: I doubt it bailed, it says it ready to install | 05:54 |
| evand | hrm | 05:55 |
| StevenK | sda1 -> ext3, sda5 -> swap | 05:55 |
| StevenK | Looks like guided to me | 05:55 |
| persia | StevenK, Did it perhaps bail the time it didn't work? | 05:57 |
| StevenK | evand: Shall I quit, capture logs, and then try with --debug --automatic again? | 05:57 |
| evand | sure, can I see the logs? syslog, debug and partman, that is. | 05:59 |
| StevenK | I have the earlier debug ones, too | 06:01 |
| evand | ok | 06:06 |
| StevenK | evand: http://people.ubuntu.com/~stevenk/ubi/ | 06:09 |
| * StevenK stares at his laptop. | 06:09 | |
| evand | nothing is jumping out at me, but I'm still looking over the logs | 06:15 |
| persia | There's a *big* difference in the partman logs there, although the initial conditions look similar. Did partman give you a useful error of any sort with --debug --automatic? | 06:16 |
| StevenK | An assertion error, which is in the logs | 06:17 |
| StevenK | evand: In the --debug --automatic logs, I hit the "I don't care, do it again" button, so the error is probably duplicated | 06:17 |
| evand | ah, ok | 06:18 |
| evand | can you pastebin your preseed file? | 06:18 |
| StevenK | evand: http://paste.ubuntu.com/60852/ | 06:20 |
| evand | Oct 22 04:13:31 debconf (filter): <-- INPUT critical partman-auto/init_automatically_partition | 06:21 |
| evand | debconf (developer): <-- METAGET partman-auto/init_automatically_partition Type | 06:21 |
| evand | debconf (developer): --> 1 select | 06:21 |
| evand | debconf (developer): <-- FGET partman-auto/init_automatically_partition seen | 06:21 |
| evand | debconf (developer): --> 0 true | 06:21 |
| evand | Oct 22 04:13:31 debconf (filter): --> 30 question skipped | 06:21 |
| evand | I wonder why that's happening again, given that Colin fixed this (bug 182004) | 06:21 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 182004 in ubiquity "partitioner fails if partially preseeded due to seen flag madness" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/182004 | 06:21 |
| evand | might also be a red herring | 06:22 |
| * evand digs further | 06:22 | |
| evand | and curiously I cannot reproduce it here, given your preseed file | 06:34 |
| evand | hrm | 06:34 |
| evand | I'll pick back up with this in the morning. | 07:24 |
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| davmor2 | guys you know on encrypted lvm install where the system boots and asks you for a password for the drive... Is there anyway to make that font clearer? It's quite fuzzy especially on the s's | 10:33 |
| xivulon | superm1 I cannot replicate the crash on vista, will try tonight using xp in vm | 10:57 |
| xivulon | davmor2 do you happen to have xp? | 10:58 |
| davmor2 | testing across the board at the moment xivulon although I will be doing some wubi testing in about an hour | 10:59 |
| xivulon | cool, the issue reported by superm1 is that when you use wubi in xp attached to a network but without internet connection, then it crashes at the reboot screen | 11:01 |
| davmor2 | xivulon: on what cd version | 11:04 |
| xivulon | I guess using latest ubuntu desktop daily | 11:04 |
| davmor2 | okay np's I'll have a look shortly :) | 11:05 |
| xivulon | but in theory it should not matter, since the issue is in windows, and wubi is still rev 513 | 11:05 |
| cjwatson | davmor2: font> looks like it's example-theme/helvB10.bdf in the usplash package | 11:16 |
| cjwatson | (or possibly bogl/helvB10.bdf, but they're the same) | 11:17 |
| davmor2 | cjwatson: if you get chance have a look if you can. The s's are worse hit | 11:18 |
| cjwatson | not for intrepid I think | 11:18 |
| cjwatson | but do file a bug | 11:18 |
| cjwatson | kirkland: 227848 has a release-notes task, but ISTR you were working on fixing this? | 11:19 |
| davmor2 | I thought it wouldn't be in for intrepid. I'll bug it after | 11:19 |
| cjwatson | (for intrepid) | 11:19 |
| davmor2 | xivulon: seems okay here on kubuntu. I'll try with ubuntu in a bit though incase it is specific | 12:14 |
| davmor2 | xivulon: is his copy of xp up-to-date? | 12:17 |
| xivulon | davmor2: not sure, superm1 ^ | 12:21 |
| xivulon | you have to be connected to the router but the router must not be connected to the web (or at least so I understood) | 12:22 |
| davmor2 | xivulon: ah hangon then I was connected to my switch but not router | 12:27 |
| davmor2 | I'll try it like that on the next one shouldn't be too long | 12:30 |
| holst | is there some way to check the syntax of a debian preseed file? | 12:37 |
| holst | it just says "no!" withtout any hints | 12:37 |
| cjwatson | debconf-set-selections -c | 12:37 |
| cjwatson | but you may not actually have a syntactic problem | 12:38 |
| soren | cjwatson: Thanks for you pointer about /var/{run,lock} yesterday. http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-virt/vmbuilder/trunk/revision/258 is clearly the better solution. | 12:40 |
| cjwatson | soren: looks good | 12:49 |
| davmor2 | xivulon: happens on xp and vista it hangs on reboot not of xp/vista but of ubutnu | 13:13 |
| davmor2 | ubuntu even | 13:13 |
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| xivulon | davmor2 that is then a different issue | 14:07 |
| xivulon | it usually depends on /etc/init.d/sendsigs or /etc/init.d/umountfs | 14:08 |
| xivulon | you have no hangs within windows though, correct? | 14:10 |
| xivulon | hmm sendsigs and umountfs look good to me | 14:15 |
| davmor2 | xivulon: no hang in windows no | 14:16 |
| xivulon | davmor2, it should be possible to narrow down the issue by going to a terminal and running the scripts in /etc/rc6.d | 14:26 |
| davmor2 | xivulon: we're bhind with testing but I might be able to tomorrow | 14:27 |
| xivulon | ok, will have a go myself tonight, do you see anything on script? I/O errors? | 14:28 |
| xivulon | s/script/screen | 14:28 |
| davmor2 | xivulon: nothing just a flashing underscore | 14:34 |
| xivulon | was this in vm or real hardware? | 14:35 |
| davmor2 | real | 14:36 |
| xivulon | thx will have a look | 14:37 |
| superm1 | davmor2, xivulon this is xp sp3 that i did it on | 15:27 |
| xivulon | superm1 as mentioned on vista worked will, will give it another go in xp/vm, did you use a vm by the way? | 15:39 |
| superm1 | xivulon, yeah that's the only way i have to test it is vm | 15:39 |
| holst | cjwatson: well, if it just stops, how can I know what is the problem? | 15:41 |
| holst | if its a missing package, something syntax error, or something else | 15:41 |
| cjwatson | holst: you need to look in the syslog | 15:56 |
| cjwatson | holst: put it on a pastebin and I'll be happy to have a look at it | 15:56 |
| kirkland | cjwatson: hey, i'm working on a writeup on encrypted private for james_w ... I've not installed from a desktop intrepid iso in a long time ... did setting up an encrypted private directory ever make it into the desktop installer? | 15:58 |
| cjwatson | kirkland: I swear I've answered this once a day for the last week :) | 15:59 |
| cjwatson | kirkland: no, it didn't | 15:59 |
| kirkland | cjwatson: :-) not from me! | 15:59 |
| holst | cjwatson: ah, syslog. I will try that | 16:11 |
| davmor2 | cjwatson: we're getting a hang at 5% on installing ubuntu dvd via ubiquity | 18:32 |
| evand | IIRC, that's formatting. If you run top and sort by CPU, do you see mkfs chugging along? | 18:33 |
| evand | How long has it been hanging for? | 18:33 |
| davmor2 | long enough for the screensaver to kick in so minimum of 10minutes | 18:34 |
| evand | can you pastebin `ps auxf`? | 18:35 |
| davmor2 | evand: I'll re run in a second I was running cd check to make sure it was alright | 18:36 |
| evand | ok | 18:36 |
| davmor2 | evand: re-running now no errors found | 18:37 |
| davmor2 | evand: heno has just said that his vm install just started up again after 15-20 minutes or so | 18:43 |
| evand | started up again? Can you elaborate on what you mean by that | 18:44 |
| davmor2 | install continued | 18:44 |
| evand | ah | 18:45 |
| davmor2 | evand: right I'm at 5% again and my hd is going like mad at the minute so I'll give it till the hd stops and and then paste the info is that okay? | 18:45 |
| evand | sure thing | 18:47 |
| davmor2 | evand: http://paste.ubuntu.com/61106/ | 18:49 |
| evand | hrm | 18:53 |
| davmor2 | it's just sat there no hd light going no dvd light going | 18:54 |
| davmor2 | evand: I'm off for my lugmeeting soon but I'll leave it to run and see if it has installed when I get back | 18:55 |
| evand | ok | 18:55 |
| evand | davmor2: when you're about to go can you run strace -p 14115 -o ubiquity.log , let it run for a bit and then pastebin | 18:55 |
| evand | might be a bit large for pastebin | 18:56 |
| davmor2 | I'll tag it to http://www.davmor2.co.uk/...... Will 4 minutes be enough? | 18:57 |
| davmor2 | oh apparently operation is no permited | 18:58 |
| davmor2 | got it | 19:00 |
| evand | need to sudo it | 19:00 |
| davmor2 | sudo strace | 19:00 |
| evand | less than a minute will be fine | 19:00 |
| evand | indeed | 19:00 |
| evand | err about a minute, that is | 19:01 |
| davmor2 | hrm it seems to be empty should that be the case? | 19:02 |
| evand | no | 19:03 |
| evand | is this still the same install as when you pastebin'ed? | 19:04 |
| davmor2 | yeap at the same place still too | 19:04 |
| evand | double check that 14115 is the process ID of python /usr/share/ubiquity/install.py | 19:05 |
| davmor2 | 14115 /usr/bin/python /usr/share/ubiquity/install.py | 19:05 |
| davmor2 | re-running strace but I really need to go in a minute | 19:06 |
| evand | indeed | 19:06 |
| evand | don't let me keep you | 19:06 |
| evand | we can continue this at some other time | 19:06 |
| davmor2 | oh it just shot up to 15% | 19:07 |
| davmor2 | evand: http://www.davmor2.co.uk/ubiquity.log | 19:09 |
| davmor2 | got to go now bye | 19:09 |
| evand | cheers | 19:10 |
| davmor2 | 32% and still going | 19:10 |
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| ClaesBas | Why does "do-release-upgrade -d" want 88.1M free space on /boot ? | 21:23 |
| ClaesBas | I only have 12M on my /boot now (8.04)! | 21:23 |
| cjwatson | you want mvo for that, who isn't here; try #ubuntu-devel | 21:23 |
| ClaesBas | OK... | 21:24 |
| cjwatson | either clean up some old kernels or have a less inconveniently small /boot, though :-) | 21:24 |
| ClaesBas | Do you think 100M /boot is to small!? | 21:25 |
| cjwatson | if you only have 12M left, you need the first option (clean up some old kernels) | 21:25 |
| cjwatson | kernels consume about 12M apiece | 21:25 |
| cjwatson | (when you count initrd etc.) | 21:25 |
| ClaesBas | I meant that my files on /boot (8.04) take 12M | 21:27 |
| cjwatson | oh, I see | 21:27 |
| cjwatson | its calculation does sound wrong then | 21:27 |
| ClaesBas | Is mvo a user or does it mean anything else? | 21:28 |
| cjwatson | ClaesBas: mvo is Michael Vogt, the author of do-release-upgrade | 21:33 |
| cjwatson | ClaesBas: alternatively, just file a bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+filebug | 21:33 |
| evand | The hanging DVD situation appears to be the fault of generate_blacklist(), which makes sense as that's one area where we'd see a difference between the CDs and DVDs. | 21:34 |
| cjwatson | oh, so it's just slow? that would figure | 21:34 |
| cjwatson | is it at the dependency calculation stage, or the stage where it does dpkg -L everything? | 21:34 |
| evand | indeed, it seems we set out to reduce installation time and created a monster in the process :) | 21:34 |
| evand | not sure, I'll probe further | 21:35 |
| cjwatson | what we have done at least is reduce the required disk space | 21:35 |
| evand | ah, very true | 21:35 |
| cjwatson | we could back it all out; I'm insanely cautious about any optimisation on that code right now since we've already created a release notes entry requirement ... | 21:35 |
| cjwatson | has anyone been paying attention to ensure that it isn't removing anything it shouldn't remove any more? | 21:36 |
| evand | I haven't seen any new complaints, but I haven't run a test to make sure that two installs with and without the blacklist generates the same files. | 21:37 |
| evand | I can do that tonight though | 21:37 |
| cjwatson | you could also check the logged files | 21:39 |
| evand | actually, indeed | 21:41 |
| evand | watching that now | 21:41 |
| cjwatson | kirkland: can you confirm whether bug 227848 should be release-noted or fixed for intrepid? In the former case, could you provide some sample text? | 21:42 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 227848 in open-iscsi "boot order wrong for iscsi" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/227848 | 21:42 |
| kirkland | cjwatson: release noted; we don't have time/resources for a proper fix for intrepid | 21:43 |
| kirkland | cjwatson: how long is such release note text, generally? | 21:43 |
| kirkland | cjwatson: 1 paragraph? 5 sentences or so? | 21:44 |
| cjwatson | kirkland: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IntrepidReleaseNotes | 21:44 |
| kirkland | cjwatson: thx | 21:44 |
| cjwatson | usually a paragraph or two is fine | 21:44 |
| kirkland | cjwatson: actually, I stand corrected .... | 21:48 |
| kirkland | cjwatson: i don't think we really have anything to release-note | 21:49 |
| kirkland | cjwatson: we don't really have a viable workaround for intrepid | 21:49 |
| cjwatson | "it's broken"? :-) | 21:49 |
| kirkland | cjwatson: i think the priority should be lowered from Critical to High | 21:49 |
| cjwatson | please do that | 21:49 |
| kirkland | cjwatson: oh, just a release not to note the bug? | 21:49 |
| cjwatson | sometimes that is worthwhile | 21:49 |
| kirkland | cjwatson: okay | 21:50 |
| cjwatson | not currently supported, even though it looks like it should be, or whatever | 21:50 |
| kirkland | cjwatson: i'm working with EtienneG on it.... | 21:54 |
| CIA-1 | debian-installer: cjwatson * r982 ubuntu/ (build/Makefile debian/changelog): | 22:22 |
| CIA-1 | debian-installer: Take /usr/share/localechooser/languagelist.data.gz into account when | 22:22 |
| CIA-1 | debian-installer: building reduced font (LP: #287668). | 22:22 |
| ClaesBas | cjwatson: About the /boot size problem, it looks like do-release-upgrade dowloads the file intrepid.tar.gz which does some checks in DistUpgradeController.py ... That checks calculate from what it thinks is installed, NOT what is physically on the partition! | 22:26 |
| cjwatson | seriously, I'm not the expert here, it's probably best not to talk to me about it :) | 22:26 |
| ClaesBas | I had to "remove" all old kernels from apt.... | 22:26 |
| cjwatson | err. you removed old kernels using rm rather than by removing the package? | 22:26 |
| cjwatson | be sure to say that in your bug report; that's unusual practice | 22:27 |
| cjwatson | I agree that it ought to cope with that | 22:27 |
| ClaesBas | I'm going to try fill in some bug report about now... | 22:29 |
| superm1 | evand, given a DVD was finally functional today, i grabbed it and dropped it onto a recovery partition. has a bunch of stuff changed with partman preseeding since the last dvd? http://paste.ubuntu.com/61230/ | 22:51 |
| persia | Oddly, in the current -mid image, I am shown step 5 iff I don't run in debug mode. How could I best troubleshoot this? | 22:52 |
| superm1 | along with this preseed: http://paste.ubuntu.com/61231/ | 22:53 |
| cjwatson | superm1: could do with syslog and partman too | 22:54 |
| evand | I think I know what it is | 22:55 |
| * evand digs | 22:55 | |
| evand | https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/intrepid-changes/2008-October/008520.html | 22:56 |
| evand | superm1: preseed partman/filter_mounted to false | 22:56 |
| * evand steps out for a few | 22:56 | |
| superm1 | evand, okay i'll try | 22:56 |
| evand | sorry about that. I had intended to send a notice of new preseed options the ubuntu-installer ML | 22:57 |
| evand | I'm going to try to get in the habit of doing so with each new ubiquity release | 22:57 |
| superm1 | so this is supplemental to the existing ubiquity/partman-skip-unmount boolean true then? | 22:58 |
| superm1 | well that at least got it further, but it's just hanging at "1%: Creating ext3 file system for / in partition #3 of SCSI1 (0,0,0) (sda) ..." now, the python process with install.py as an argument is pegging the CPU too. hum | 23:04 |
| evand | superm1: read up a bit, we're on it :) | 23:06 |
| superm1 | evand, ah okay. need any other data points for that too then? | 23:07 |
| evand | oh half that conversation is in #ubuntu-release | 23:07 |
| evand | back in a bit | 23:07 |
| kirkland | cjwatson: iscsi text sent your way via email | 23:08 |
| cjwatson | kirkland: can you put it in the bug, please? | 23:08 |
| kirkland | cjwatson: yup | 23:09 |
| kirkland | cjwatson: done: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/open-iscsi/+bug/227848 | 23:10 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 227848 in open-iscsi "boot order wrong for iscsi" [High,In progress] | 23:10 |
| cjwatson | thanks | 23:10 |
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