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sbalneavevening all02:27
BunnyRevolutionhi.  is there a way to run thin and fat clients from the same server?  is this possible?03:54
sbalneavNot sure.03:55
sbalneavI know nubae's done some work on fat clients03:55
sbalneavBy fat clients, you still mean diskless?03:56
sbalneavOr, are you asking if you can use the server as an NFS server for home dirs, for full fledged workstations?03:56
BunnyRevolutionnubae's fat clients with ltsp thin clients03:57
sbalneavThen I'm not sure.03:58
BunnyRevolutiondo you have a link to nubae's fat client?03:58
sbalneavwww.nubae.com, I beleive.  Or maybe .org04:00
BunnyRevolutionthe answer is yes04:02
BunnyRevolutionwow, his fat client is 600mhz and 256mb ram04:02
BunnyRevolutionso i'm wondering how low can one go?04:03
BunnyRevolutionis it all dependent upon the server?04:03
MowreyHello. How can I connect my Edubuntu to Internet through a Dial-Up connection on an Inspiron08:34
MowreyE150508:34
MowreyHmm, nobody wants to help me, no matter where I ask. :(08:35
MowreyThat's not fair.08:35
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Eeyore-Jrhi.  does the thin client use it's own video or the video of the host/server machine?  memory, graphics, etc.14:42
sbalneavEeyore-Jr: the thin client uses it's own video, memory (for the video) and graphics chips, but the programs themselves run on the server14:49
sbalneavEeyore-Jr: http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/LtspDocumentationUpstream has a good theory of operation section14:51
Eeyore-Jris there a big difference between ubuntu and xubuntu in programs?14:52
Eeyore-Jrthe programs are basically the same iirc, with only the desktop differing14:53
sbalneavA lot are the same, some are different.14:55
Eeyore-Jractually though, reading your above statement, system requirements for a xubuntu ltsp or a ubuntu ltsp for the client should be exactly the same without the load happening on the client14:55
sbalneavWell, with less graphical "bling" xubuntu should use a little less client ram.  But that pales in comparison to how much client ram some of the programs you'd use will consume anyway.  Things like firefox.14:59
Eeyore-Jrfirefox would be using server ram though, correct?15:02
Eeyore-Jrhas opera been tested on ltsp?  wouldn't that be a better choice?15:03
sbalneavNo, firefox also uses client ram as well15:04
sbalneavas it caches images in Xserver ram, which is on the client.15:04
ograeverything that displays something uses client ram15:04
sbalneavright.15:04
Eeyore-Jri'm using 450 PII and 550 PII-Celerons with 256 to 512mb ram15:04
sbalneavThat should be pretty decent.15:05
Eeyore-Jreverything that displays uses client system ram or client video ram15:05
ogravideo15:05
sbalneavAlso system15:05
ograthough it depends on your graphics card, video ram might be system ram15:05
Eeyore-Jrug.  so if my video cards are booting up with xubuntu normally in low graphcs mode, then my video ram is way to low15:05
sbalneavWell, what resolution are they booting up in?15:06
Eeyore-Jrnot sure, i'd have to check, but i think 800x64015:07
ogramight also be that it falls back to vesa because there is no driver for your videocard15:07
sbalneavYep, that too15:07
sbalneavWhat kind of video cards are in the boxes?15:08
sbalneavreal video cards with a fixed amount of video ram on them?15:08
Eeyore-Jri'll have to check15:11
Eeyore-Jrassorted15:11
Eeyore-Jri do know that *untu doesn't support my server graphics card15:17
Eeyore-Jrwell sorta.  i can install using it, but after it reboots, i get no video15:17
sbalneavProbably make sue you set vesa mode for it.15:17
Eeyore-Jrgeforuce 8800 gs15:18
Eeyore-Jri'm looking at using no machine to manage the server15:29
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Eeyore-Jrwith the ibex, when it attemps to build the client, it fails16:34
Eeyore-JrLTSP chroot16:34
Eeyore-Jriirc, this happened when i tried with aptitude as well16:34
Nubaehow does it fail?16:35
ograaptitude ?16:36
Eeyore-Jri don't recall, as i've started the alternate install for ubuntu ltsp16:37
Eeyore-Jrbut the alternate ltsp is failing at the same point it appears16:38
ograit should work from the CD built on 21th oct on16:38
Eeyore-Jrunder "build ltsp chroot16:38
ograbefore nobody tested it16:38
Eeyore-Jri'm using intrepid beta16:38
ograthat wont work16:38
Eeyore-Jr:(16:38
ograyou need RC16:38
Eeyore-Jrok.  rc is out now?16:38
ogranot yet, later today16:39
Eeyore-Jr*sigh*16:39
ograbut the daily images are roughly what RC will be16:39
Eeyore-Jrso, can i use 8.04.1?16:39
ograwe're unlikely to rebuild them16:39
Eeyore-Jrfor testing the equipment16:39
ograhttp://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/20081022/16:39
ogratake that one16:39
Eeyore-Jrthx16:50
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Eeyore-Jrwhen's stable released.  i have a full blown test next thursday, and another the following week, both for three days17:17
ogra30th17:20
Eeyore-Jrk, daily is installed.  can't get an ip address from the router and video does not work18:46
Eeyore-Jrbb after lunch.18:48
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Eeyore-Jrok, the ltsp portion of it works.  still no video or getting a dhcp address from outside, but the internal clients work22:16
Eeyore-Jri've got a mobo with two nics.  it's serving address to the clients on the switch, but i cannot get the incoming nic to wrok23:17
Eeyore-Jrif i'm log into a ltsp client as myself (admin) is that the same as being on the machine itself?23:40
Eeyore-Jr*untu 8.10 looks neat.  is there a way to restrict a client to his/her home directory?23:41

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