sbalneav | evening all | 02:27 |
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BunnyRevolution | hi. is there a way to run thin and fat clients from the same server? is this possible? | 03:54 |
sbalneav | Not sure. | 03:55 |
sbalneav | I know nubae's done some work on fat clients | 03:55 |
sbalneav | By fat clients, you still mean diskless? | 03:56 |
sbalneav | Or, are you asking if you can use the server as an NFS server for home dirs, for full fledged workstations? | 03:56 |
BunnyRevolution | nubae's fat clients with ltsp thin clients | 03:57 |
sbalneav | Then I'm not sure. | 03:58 |
BunnyRevolution | do you have a link to nubae's fat client? | 03:58 |
sbalneav | www.nubae.com, I beleive. Or maybe .org | 04:00 |
BunnyRevolution | the answer is yes | 04:02 |
BunnyRevolution | wow, his fat client is 600mhz and 256mb ram | 04:02 |
BunnyRevolution | so i'm wondering how low can one go? | 04:03 |
BunnyRevolution | is it all dependent upon the server? | 04:03 |
Mowrey | Hello. How can I connect my Edubuntu to Internet through a Dial-Up connection on an Inspiron | 08:34 |
Mowrey | E1505 | 08:34 |
Mowrey | Hmm, nobody wants to help me, no matter where I ask. :( | 08:35 |
Mowrey | That's not fair. | 08:35 |
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Eeyore-Jr | hi. does the thin client use it's own video or the video of the host/server machine? memory, graphics, etc. | 14:42 |
sbalneav | Eeyore-Jr: the thin client uses it's own video, memory (for the video) and graphics chips, but the programs themselves run on the server | 14:49 |
sbalneav | Eeyore-Jr: http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/LtspDocumentationUpstream has a good theory of operation section | 14:51 |
Eeyore-Jr | is there a big difference between ubuntu and xubuntu in programs? | 14:52 |
Eeyore-Jr | the programs are basically the same iirc, with only the desktop differing | 14:53 |
sbalneav | A lot are the same, some are different. | 14:55 |
Eeyore-Jr | actually though, reading your above statement, system requirements for a xubuntu ltsp or a ubuntu ltsp for the client should be exactly the same without the load happening on the client | 14:55 |
sbalneav | Well, with less graphical "bling" xubuntu should use a little less client ram. But that pales in comparison to how much client ram some of the programs you'd use will consume anyway. Things like firefox. | 14:59 |
Eeyore-Jr | firefox would be using server ram though, correct? | 15:02 |
Eeyore-Jr | has opera been tested on ltsp? wouldn't that be a better choice? | 15:03 |
sbalneav | No, firefox also uses client ram as well | 15:04 |
sbalneav | as it caches images in Xserver ram, which is on the client. | 15:04 |
ogra | everything that displays something uses client ram | 15:04 |
sbalneav | right. | 15:04 |
Eeyore-Jr | i'm using 450 PII and 550 PII-Celerons with 256 to 512mb ram | 15:04 |
sbalneav | That should be pretty decent. | 15:05 |
Eeyore-Jr | everything that displays uses client system ram or client video ram | 15:05 |
ogra | video | 15:05 |
sbalneav | Also system | 15:05 |
ogra | though it depends on your graphics card, video ram might be system ram | 15:05 |
Eeyore-Jr | ug. so if my video cards are booting up with xubuntu normally in low graphcs mode, then my video ram is way to low | 15:05 |
sbalneav | Well, what resolution are they booting up in? | 15:06 |
Eeyore-Jr | not sure, i'd have to check, but i think 800x640 | 15:07 |
ogra | might also be that it falls back to vesa because there is no driver for your videocard | 15:07 |
sbalneav | Yep, that too | 15:07 |
sbalneav | What kind of video cards are in the boxes? | 15:08 |
sbalneav | real video cards with a fixed amount of video ram on them? | 15:08 |
Eeyore-Jr | i'll have to check | 15:11 |
Eeyore-Jr | assorted | 15:11 |
Eeyore-Jr | i do know that *untu doesn't support my server graphics card | 15:17 |
Eeyore-Jr | well sorta. i can install using it, but after it reboots, i get no video | 15:17 |
sbalneav | Probably make sue you set vesa mode for it. | 15:17 |
Eeyore-Jr | geforuce 8800 gs | 15:18 |
Eeyore-Jr | i'm looking at using no machine to manage the server | 15:29 |
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Eeyore-Jr | with the ibex, when it attemps to build the client, it fails | 16:34 |
Eeyore-Jr | LTSP chroot | 16:34 |
Eeyore-Jr | iirc, this happened when i tried with aptitude as well | 16:34 |
Nubae | how does it fail? | 16:35 |
ogra | aptitude ? | 16:36 |
Eeyore-Jr | i don't recall, as i've started the alternate install for ubuntu ltsp | 16:37 |
Eeyore-Jr | but the alternate ltsp is failing at the same point it appears | 16:38 |
ogra | it should work from the CD built on 21th oct on | 16:38 |
Eeyore-Jr | under "build ltsp chroot | 16:38 |
ogra | before nobody tested it | 16:38 |
Eeyore-Jr | i'm using intrepid beta | 16:38 |
ogra | that wont work | 16:38 |
Eeyore-Jr | :( | 16:38 |
ogra | you need RC | 16:38 |
Eeyore-Jr | ok. rc is out now? | 16:38 |
ogra | not yet, later today | 16:39 |
Eeyore-Jr | *sigh* | 16:39 |
ogra | but the daily images are roughly what RC will be | 16:39 |
Eeyore-Jr | so, can i use 8.04.1? | 16:39 |
ogra | we're unlikely to rebuild them | 16:39 |
Eeyore-Jr | for testing the equipment | 16:39 |
ogra | http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/20081022/ | 16:39 |
ogra | take that one | 16:39 |
Eeyore-Jr | thx | 16:50 |
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Eeyore-Jr | when's stable released. i have a full blown test next thursday, and another the following week, both for three days | 17:17 |
ogra | 30th | 17:20 |
Eeyore-Jr | k, daily is installed. can't get an ip address from the router and video does not work | 18:46 |
Eeyore-Jr | bb after lunch. | 18:48 |
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Eeyore-Jr | ok, the ltsp portion of it works. still no video or getting a dhcp address from outside, but the internal clients work | 22:16 |
Eeyore-Jr | i've got a mobo with two nics. it's serving address to the clients on the switch, but i cannot get the incoming nic to wrok | 23:17 |
Eeyore-Jr | if i'm log into a ltsp client as myself (admin) is that the same as being on the machine itself? | 23:40 |
Eeyore-Jr | *untu 8.10 looks neat. is there a way to restrict a client to his/her home directory? | 23:41 |
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