[02:27] evening all [03:54] hi. is there a way to run thin and fat clients from the same server? is this possible? [03:55] Not sure. [03:55] I know nubae's done some work on fat clients [03:56] By fat clients, you still mean diskless? [03:56] Or, are you asking if you can use the server as an NFS server for home dirs, for full fledged workstations? [03:57] nubae's fat clients with ltsp thin clients [03:58] Then I'm not sure. [03:58] do you have a link to nubae's fat client? [04:00] www.nubae.com, I beleive. Or maybe .org [04:02] the answer is yes [04:02] wow, his fat client is 600mhz and 256mb ram [04:03] so i'm wondering how low can one go? [04:03] is it all dependent upon the server? [08:34] Hello. How can I connect my Edubuntu to Internet through a Dial-Up connection on an Inspiron [08:34] E1505 [08:35] Hmm, nobody wants to help me, no matter where I ask. :( [08:35] That's not fair. === Guest14849 is now known as bash === banain is now known as Bas === Bas is now known as Bastidas === Bastidas is now known as Bastidash === Bastidash is now known as Basti_dash === bananin is now known as Guest9949 === bananin is now known as Guest94250 === Guest94250 is now known as Basti_dash [14:42] hi. does the thin client use it's own video or the video of the host/server machine? memory, graphics, etc. [14:49] Eeyore-Jr: the thin client uses it's own video, memory (for the video) and graphics chips, but the programs themselves run on the server [14:51] Eeyore-Jr: http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/LtspDocumentationUpstream has a good theory of operation section [14:52] is there a big difference between ubuntu and xubuntu in programs? [14:53] the programs are basically the same iirc, with only the desktop differing [14:55] A lot are the same, some are different. [14:55] actually though, reading your above statement, system requirements for a xubuntu ltsp or a ubuntu ltsp for the client should be exactly the same without the load happening on the client [14:59] Well, with less graphical "bling" xubuntu should use a little less client ram. But that pales in comparison to how much client ram some of the programs you'd use will consume anyway. Things like firefox. [15:02] firefox would be using server ram though, correct? [15:03] has opera been tested on ltsp? wouldn't that be a better choice? [15:04] No, firefox also uses client ram as well [15:04] as it caches images in Xserver ram, which is on the client. [15:04] everything that displays something uses client ram [15:04] right. [15:04] i'm using 450 PII and 550 PII-Celerons with 256 to 512mb ram [15:05] That should be pretty decent. [15:05] everything that displays uses client system ram or client video ram [15:05] video [15:05] Also system [15:05] though it depends on your graphics card, video ram might be system ram [15:05] ug. so if my video cards are booting up with xubuntu normally in low graphcs mode, then my video ram is way to low [15:06] Well, what resolution are they booting up in? [15:07] not sure, i'd have to check, but i think 800x640 [15:07] might also be that it falls back to vesa because there is no driver for your videocard [15:07] Yep, that too [15:08] What kind of video cards are in the boxes? [15:08] real video cards with a fixed amount of video ram on them? [15:11] i'll have to check [15:11] assorted [15:17] i do know that *untu doesn't support my server graphics card [15:17] well sorta. i can install using it, but after it reboots, i get no video [15:17] Probably make sue you set vesa mode for it. [15:18] geforuce 8800 gs [15:29] i'm looking at using no machine to manage the server === Guest94250 is now known as Basti_dash [16:34] with the ibex, when it attemps to build the client, it fails [16:34] LTSP chroot [16:34] iirc, this happened when i tried with aptitude as well [16:35] how does it fail? [16:36] aptitude ? [16:37] i don't recall, as i've started the alternate install for ubuntu ltsp [16:38] but the alternate ltsp is failing at the same point it appears [16:38] it should work from the CD built on 21th oct on [16:38] under "build ltsp chroot [16:38] before nobody tested it [16:38] i'm using intrepid beta [16:38] that wont work [16:38] :( [16:38] you need RC [16:38] ok. rc is out now? [16:39] not yet, later today [16:39] *sigh* [16:39] but the daily images are roughly what RC will be [16:39] so, can i use 8.04.1? [16:39] we're unlikely to rebuild them [16:39] for testing the equipment [16:39] http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/20081022/ [16:39] take that one [16:50] thx === Guest94250 is now known as Basti_dash === ogra_ is now known as ogra [17:17] when's stable released. i have a full blown test next thursday, and another the following week, both for three days [17:20] 30th [18:46] k, daily is installed. can't get an ip address from the router and video does not work [18:48] bb after lunch. === bananin is now known as Guest45039 === Guest45039 is now known as Basti_dash === Guest45039 is now known as Basti_dash === Guest45039 is now known as Basti_dash [22:16] ok, the ltsp portion of it works. still no video or getting a dhcp address from outside, but the internal clients work [23:17] i've got a mobo with two nics. it's serving address to the clients on the switch, but i cannot get the incoming nic to wrok [23:40] if i'm log into a ltsp client as myself (admin) is that the same as being on the machine itself? [23:41] *untu 8.10 looks neat. is there a way to restrict a client to his/her home directory?