/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2008/10/23/#kubuntu.txt

Tannfilo1234: You still there?00:03
filo1234yes00:03
TannYou want to disable the bell in Konsole correct?00:03
filo1234yes but temporally00:03
filo1234i remember something with pcspkr00:04
Tannfilo1234: Well, you can always just disable it then re-enable it.00:04
vonkleistDaSkreech, I'm running konversation, which has not been coded on KDE400:04
filo1234Tann: i want disable it only for some session not for ever00:04
DaSkreechvonkleist: Umm..00:05
Tannfilo1234: ok00:05
DaSkreechThat has little to do with being in a KDE3 Environment :)00:05
filo1234Tann: i ca remove pcspkr module  i think00:09
filo1234can*00:10
Tannok.00:10
TannI was going to say you can go to the settings menu of konsole then to configure notifications.00:10
Tannand then disable the bell from there, and re-enable it when you want it again.00:11
filo1234Tann: sure but i remember wich was a command for to do it00:11
Tannoh.00:12
Tannok00:12
W8TAHhi folks -  -can someone tell me where i can find the program kdeworldclock?  i cant seem to find it in the repos etc00:17
filo1234thanks to all bye00:18
NamShub how can I change my kde3 settings from a kde4 environment?00:21
TannNamShub: I think you might be able to run the command: "kcontrol"00:23
DaSkreechboubbin: I guess so00:26
DaSkreechboubbin: I know for sure there is no kubuntu-desktop-kde300:26
NamShubkcontrol is not available in intrpid anymore00:27
NamShubthe only thing that really bothers me, really, is quanta being associated with .html file.... so clicking on links in konversation (the only kde3 app i use) open quanta (the other only kde3 app I have installed, but sometimes need00:29
garcia_hola00:30
vonkleistDaSkreech, I'm not saying I'm on a KDE3 environment00:31
DaSkreechvonkleist: Ah thought that's what you were saying00:31
DaSkreechNamShub: Change the priority00:31
DaSkreech!hi | garcia_00:31
ubottugarcia_: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!00:31
NamShubDaSkreech: yea.... where? :)00:31
DaSkreechNamShub: Konqueror -> Settings -> Configure Konqueror -> File Associations -> HTML00:32
NamShubDaSkreech: but theres no kde3 konqueror...00:33
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DaSkreechin Ibex?00:34
NamShubyea...00:35
DaSkreechIt's not shipped with kdelibs4 ?00:35
NamShubyes ii  kdelibs4c2a                                4:3.5.10-0ubuntu600:36
boubbininterpid must suck so bad with all these new kde things...00:37
boubbinno kcontrol etc.00:37
W8TAHboubbin, na -- kubuntu is great00:37
boubbinkubuntu is great i thank god hardy is LTS no hurry to upgrade...00:37
W8TAHintrepid is great too00:38
W8TAHim in the beta and love it00:38
boubbini think i stay in hardy and test interpid on its own partition...00:38
boubbinyeah, whats really better in there? :P00:38
boubbinchangelog gives me nothing.00:38
boubbinnew kernel, new xorg, i dont need those00:38
W8TAHthe UI is much improved -- the graphics rendering is 50% better than kde3 -- its very smooth and easy to use00:38
boubbinyeah in kde4 ?00:39
W8TAHfusion just works00:39
W8TAHthe new network manager is smooth00:39
boubbini also hate kde4 :P00:39
DaSkreechWhy?00:39
W8TAHthen i am wasting my time00:39
boubbinyeah.00:39
NamShubbecause he hasnt run it ;)00:39
DaSkreechlikely but it's instructive to knwo00:39
DaSkreechknow00:39
boubbinive tryed 4.000:39
boubbinat t00:39
boubbin:/00:40
DaSkreech4.0 sucked but what didn't you like?00:40
boubbinit takes like a 4year for 4.0 to get to the position 3.5* is now...00:40
boubbinbut well i have to go now... see ya and hope the 4.1 is really great00:40
DaSkreech4.2 should be nice :)00:41
DaSkreech4.3 should be better!!00:41
DaSkreech^_^00:41
bdizzlehi, quick question00:43
DaSkreechquick answer00:44
DaSkreechMaybe00:44
bdizzlewhat is the command line phrase for uploading a file over ssh to a remote computer?00:44
NamShubthe new kopete is much improve (ui-wise), konqueror is smoking fast, dolphin does the job, plasma is cool, kwin effects *are* pretty, kate is soo much better now (treeview for file browser in 4.2!), konsole is still great, the games now look gorgeous, runner (alt+f2) makes so much more sense... seriously whats not to like? ;)00:44
NamShubbdizzle: sftp source_file user@server.com:/path/target00:45
bdizzleah, thank you00:45
bdizzleum, no, is there another one?00:46
bdizzlenot sure if its ssh, though I'm pretty sure it is00:47
NamShubrsync -ave ssh source target00:47
pookitoGood evening everyone00:47
NamShubooh sorry not sftp00:47
NamShubscp00:47
NamShub:P00:48
bdizzlescp00:48
bdizzleyeah00:48
pookitoI know that within 8 days the servers are going to be really busy for ubuntu upgrade.  I would like to upgrade now, how can I do that?00:48
bdizzleubuntu upgrade?00:48
bdizzlealready?00:48
pookitoplease00:49
NamShubhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/IntrepidUpgrades/Kubuntu00:49
NamShubbut there will be a lot of new packages to download until the final00:49
NamShubso Im not sure thats really a reason to upgrade now00:49
NamShuba good00:49
pookitoso you are saying that I should wait a little longer?00:49
pookitonot a problem00:50
pookitoThanks00:50
NamShubwell its still beta00:50
DaSkreechNamShub: Have you seen QuickSand?00:50
NamShubDaSkreech: no what is it?00:50
DaSkreechpookito: YOu can do it now00:50
DaSkreechThen upgrade on Wednesday next week00:50
DaSkreechNamShub: More usable Krunner00:51
pookitoCan I, I thought by now the next version was a little more stable00:51
pookitoBut I can wait00:51
NamShubOh yea I think ive seen blog post... but its something you gotta try to really get the feel...00:51
NamShubits available?00:52
pookitogotcha00:52
pookito;-)00:52
DaSkreechpookito: It's stable but they do tweaks so you get lots of new packages00:54
DaSkreechshould slow down massively from tonight00:54
pookitounderstood00:54
DaSkreechNamShub: why do you need A KDE 3 konqueror01:02
NamShubI dont need a kde3 konqueror. I just want to alter kde3 settings01:02
NamShubkonversation (kde3) opens links in quanta01:02
NamShubthis is annoying (and makes no sense...)01:03
bdizzlewhat is the shortuct for renaming a file?01:03
NamShubF201:03
bdizzleno, on CLI01:03
NamShubmv :)01:03
bdizzlethanks01:03
bdizzleand to pull up processes list?01:06
NamShubtop01:07
NamShubps01:07
bdizzlek01:09
bdizzleI'm slowly trying to re-learn what I learned of command line over the summer01:09
NamShubprint a cheat sheet01:09
bdizzleheh, pretty much01:10
DaSkreech!commands01:11
ubottuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal01:11
bdizzleand what is the command line name for OpenOffice Spreadsheet?01:13
bdizzleoocalc?01:14
arrrghhhso i installed intrepid.  it seems pretty polished, but system settings doesn't run at all.  how do i manually run it in the konsole so i can see what's wrong?01:18
NamShubsystemsettings01:19
bdizzlewhen we upgrade to intrepid, do all of the settings automatically migrate, or do you have to do a fresh install?01:20
bdizzleI remember having problems with Hardy where it only gave me a partial install over Gutsy and I had to wipe and restart01:20
arrrghhhbdizzle, they migrate for the most part.  depends on the settings i guess.01:25
arrrghhhnvm01:25
arrrghhhNamShub, says i don't have it installed...?01:26
arrrghhhthere's kde-systemsettings and just systemsettings.  i don't understand how i don't have a vital component such as system settings.  the menu entry is there, but it does not run.01:26
NamShubweird. try reinstaling the package..?01:27
arrrghhhi'm assuming the package i want is systemsettings instead of kde-systemsettings?01:28
NamShubprobably (i dont have kde-systemsettings installed and everything works fine)01:29
NamShubii  systemsettings                       4:4.1.2-0ubuntu11                    KDE 4 System Settings01:29
arrrghhhi don't get it.  i can run systemsettings from the terminal now, but system settings link in the favorites menu still doesn't work.  this is mind boggling.01:30
arrrghhhhrm.  works from the computer menu.  perhaps the link in favorites menu is borked.01:31
freeksh0w86Where does Kate store its syntax files globally (not per-user)?01:39
freeksh0w86oh wait i found it :/01:40
mike-solidushey, guys, i installed apache2 and php5 but i don't think php is bieng loaded in apache, how can i check?01:43
NamShubcreate an index.php with <? phpinfo(); ?>01:48
dennisterhowdy all...having trouble installing hardy with alternate cd, and sincerely believe it's a problem with the 40G laptop drive, although w2k installed fine on first 10G of it01:50
dennisterdoes anyone know what DRDY means?01:50
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vitbghgggbf02:04
vitholacomo02:04
vitvghhfjgyg02:04
vitkjloppopooppppppoooo[ooooo02:05
dr_williscat on the keyboard...?02:05
NamShubor head banging? ;)02:06
dennisterdr_willis: do you know anything about this DRDY issue? what it means, for instance? I did google it, found ppl r were having this prob with hardy and not other versions, but I'm having it with gutsy's alternative cd too02:19
dr_willisDRDY? Never heard of ti.02:20
dennistercan't seem to install because of it...stops at 33% of file system creation02:21
dr_willisThis is on 8.04 or 8.10 ?02:22
dennisterit was 8.04.1, but now there's the same problem with 7.102:22
dennistersomeone gave me a pentium 3 laptop, which was a lot better than my old p2 tecra, so I added more ram, swapped the hdd for a 40G one someone else had given me, installed the w2k no problem...02:24
dennisteris the swap area raw disk space?02:26
dr_willisswap partition is a specific partition,02:26
dr_willisyou use the mkswap command onit to 'format' it as swap space02:27
dennisterdr_willis: yes, i know its a specific partition, but I was wondering how it was formatted, if at all02:28
dr_willisits formated as swap :)02:29
dennisterok...no way does this installation want to create any filesystem in this space...not even swap02:30
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WharfedaleHi there02:33
WharfedaleAnyone good with graphics problems, cant get my Geforce 2 mx 440se02:33
Wharfedaleworking on kde402:33
keanneI just tried kubuntu, and is konqueror freezing when browsing youtube a known problem? what is the fix for this? im using kubuntu 8.04 LTS02:34
dennisterBluesKaj: hey there :)02:36
BluesKajhi dennister, how goes it ?02:36
dennisterBluesKaj: well, better now that I've got a lawyer to deal with the appeal, and I can get back to my pc-rebuilding :)02:37
dennistera friend gave me a pentium3 laptop last night, and I'm having trouble installing *ubuntu02:38
BluesKajdennister,  appeal ?02:39
dennisteryeah...i got evicted "for own use" (no fault type) because of their lies that I can now prove, so I'm appealing it02:39
BluesKajok02:40
dennister3 lawyers and legal aid have all agreed that I got railroaded :(02:40
dennisteranyway...back to computers :)02:40
BluesKajright  :)02:40
dennisteru ever seen DRDY messages before when trying to install?02:41
dennisteri have no idea what that means02:41
nejodedennister: I've had similar problem with P3 motherboards, sis and intel chipsets02:46
barbi need to know how to open a port through a "windstream" dsl modem ?02:48
dennisterwell, from my googling, DRDY errors are related to hdd's, and now, while trying to restore the mbr with my w2k disk, i've just been told there is no hard drive at all!02:48
dennisterheheheh, i think it became loose from the connection, as it just started a low rattle02:49
dennisternejode: i like p3s myself, take up way less in terms of resources02:50
dennisteranyway, bbs...gotta go to the other room where my screwdrivers are02:50
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barbanyone ?02:51
BluesKajbarb, modem or router ...most modems don't have port options02:53
geniiShe left already02:54
dennistergenii: :)02:54
marciohlo, need help to connect kopeye do msn protocol, i,e, it does not connect!02:54
geniiHi dennister02:54
dennisterdo u know why DRDY errors are?02:54
geniidennister: No, but they don't sound good02:55
BluesKajyeah din't notice til after I hit enter02:55
nejodedennister: those errors come mostly because a module is not being loaded...02:55
marciopls, why kopete does not connect?02:55
dennistergreat...put it in more firmly and now i'm getting bios parameter errors02:56
geniimarcio: Are you using some firewall software?02:56
marciono one! direct!02:56
geniidennister: I think I'd toss that drive, sounds flakey02:56
nejodepiix in intels and ide_generic, ide_disk,ide_cd in SIS02:56
dennisternejode: a module is never going to load if the OS isn't even isntalled yet02:56
geniimarcio: Please have patience. If someone knows how to assist you, they will02:57
dennistergenii: yes, I think ur right02:57
marciotks!02:57
marcioTo depict the problem: Firefox is navigating, so as this IRC and skype...02:58
dennisterwell, i do have the original drive that came with the laptop...it's only 12G, so that's why I swapped it for this 40g one02:58
dennisterback to the screwdriver room....02:58
nejodeSorry, but the kernel needs to load modules that are needed to be able to talk to the disk02:58
marciokopete and other msn protocol software simple do not log on!02:58
geniimarcio: Is it asking you for a Kwallet password at all?02:59
marcioyes, it did once, and ...03:00
nejodedennister: but if you already know the problem, go ahead03:00
marcio... operation not suported on logon03:00
geniimarcio: You put for your full hotmail or msn  email address as your account name?03:01
marcioyes i did03:01
powertool08 does anyone know how to connect to wpa networks via cli?03:02
dennisteri guess i didn't waste my time installing w2k + all updates on original drive before swapping it after all :)03:03
gustavoalguien habla español03:04
dennisternow i just have to shrink that 12G partition down to 2G and I'll still have room for kubuntu, heheheh03:04
geniimarcio: In Settings...Configure...Behaviour... You have the box beside "Connect automatically at startup" checked off?03:04
marciothanks genii, will try it now03:05
gustavoalguien me puede sacar dudas de kubuntu03:05
dennistergenii's the best...03:05
powertool08!es > gustavo03:06
ubottugustavo, please see my private message03:06
marciogenii, its checked off03:06
geniimarcio: OK.03:06
genii!es | gustavo03:07
ubottugustavo: En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.03:07
marcioI guess it means manual connect03:07
geniipowertool08: Apologies, did not see your same instruction to them03:07
powertool08genii: np03:07
viatesting03:08
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DarkTanhmm, od.03:08
powertool08!test | via03:08
ubottuvia: sigh... again? I'm busy here, I already told you it failed.03:08
* shibz tested03:08
powertool08:)03:08
geniimarcio: I don't normally use Kopete but have just set up my msn identity on it now for testing and seems to connect all right.03:08
DarkTanI have an issue, during install, the software install failed. i now have a text ubuntu os03:08
DarkTanhow do i got about getting KDE?03:09
geniimarcio: Unfortunately I do not know the intricacies of it enough to effectively help you, other than what I have already suggested03:09
powertool08DarkTan: sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop03:09
geniiDarkTan: First however do: sudo apt-get update03:09
DarkTanthat will get to where it would had the install not failed?03:09
geniiDarkTan: The install wants the CD, the package manager will use the internet to get it03:10
DarkTanok03:10
marciothanks, genii, my other notebook worked fine too, cant mean what s happening to this one... maybe the 64bit thing...03:10
geniimarcio: Perhaps try install package     ia32-libs                 it allows many 32 bit applications to work properly under 64bit install03:11
geniiFirefox for instance03:11
marcioops! that s new03:11
marciowil try now03:12
DarkTanupdate didn't do anything, and installing "kubuntu-dekstop" asks for the cd03:12
DarkTanis this normal?03:12
geniipowertool08: As far as I understand you need wlassistant. Then you can use something like iwconfig to issue the actual connection command03:13
geniiDarkTan: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list                then put a # before the line which has the cdrom entry. Then hit ctrl-x to exit, Y when asked to save changes and Enter key for same name to save it as. Then reissue the two commands previously given.03:14
powertool08genii: thanks, you wouldn't happen to know if iwlist/iwconfig + wpa_supplicant is still the preferred connection method or if something newer/better is out would you?03:15
geniipowertool08: Offhand no idea03:16
DarkTanum, well it's at 80% installing from the CD right now03:16
DarkTanmake that 9003:16
geniiDarkTan: Well, might succeed yet then03:16
DarkTani have been having strange issues lately03:16
DarkTanlike the kernal panic last time03:16
DarkTanalso: i did a complete install with no problems to a SCSI drive on a PCI SCSI card, when booting, i kept getting "No OS found."03:17
DarkTancould the fact that is is a Hot Swap PCI card from an old server?03:17
geniiDarkTan: PErhaps your SCSI adapter is set to boot to a different SCSI ID number than the one to which you installed the system or grub to03:18
DarkTanwell, there is only one drive03:18
DarkTanmeh, whatever03:19
DarkTancan i remote control kubuntu from a windows PC?03:19
geniiDarkTan: With the Seagate adapters you can usually use ctrl-A to gain the bios and check settings that way03:20
DarkTanyeah, I went through everything in there, couldn't get it to boot03:20
DarkTanyanked it, installed to IDE03:20
DarkTan100gb is good enough for now03:20
DarkTanI fiddle with it later, or use it to fix my other server that won't allow an install03:21
geniiDarkTan: Is the drive terminated?03:21
DarkTani think so, it was working in the computer i took it out of, and would ty to boot to windows before i formatted it03:21
geniieg: Does it have the SCSI terminating resistors on it, or the cable which attaches it has another plug past it which has a SCSI terminator plugged into it03:22
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geniiHoly netsplit batman03:23
coreymon77weeeee!03:24
DarkTanindeed03:24
DarkTanit has the term on a connector just past the drive03:24
coreymon77WEEEEEEEEEEEE!03:24
coreymon77netsplits are fun!03:24
mchrisHello there.. I hage gparted open and look like to get help resizing partions03:25
DarkTanhmmm....it unpacked a whole lotta crap, and then went to a black screen03:26
DarkTannvm, screen saver03:26
DarkTandidn't know it had one03:26
martin_hi, Im having issues, while using nvidia-settings, I cant save my Xconfig03:28
coreymon77yay! another netsplit!03:28
* coreymon77 accidentally pressed the netsplit button again03:29
DarkTanok, went throgh the whole unpacking process, got one error at the end03:29
\KiraGrid Wars2's sound doesnt work unless im running compiz, but when I run compiz the superkaramba and kbfx apps flicker in and out making gameplay difficult and graphics annoying, but the game just isnt that entertaining without the sounds to match the flashy lights :) Any help?03:30
DarkTanSub process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)03:30
DarkTanwell, lets see if it works, How do i start the desktop from the command line?03:31
geniiDarkTan: Further up in the scroll may be a better clue to exact failure03:31
geniiDarkTan: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start                              or if kde4    then kdm-kde403:32
DarkTani can't scroll03:32
geniiDarkTan: shift-pageup    usually in console does it03:32
JoseBravoAll my GTK applications in KDE, including FireFox appears very ugly. How can I fix that?03:32
DarkTancrap, got a ton of errors03:32
DarkTangonna try that other thing you said03:33
geniiDarkTan: Want me to repost it?03:34
DarkTani got it03:34
geniiOK03:34
geniiDarkTan: You have internet connectivity on the box yet?03:34
DarkTani get "nano: command not found"03:34
DarkTani think so, it went throgh the network setup during the install03:35
geniiHm03:35
DarkTanya know this thing is kinda old, how might i install Xfce?03:36
geniiDarkTan: nano should be on the cd. Try: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install nano              then the other instruction from before03:36
martin_hi, Im having issues, while using nvidia-settings, I cant save my Xconfig03:36
DarkTanupdate is not checking the internet, only the CD03:37
geniiDarkTan: Since nano should be able to install from cd hopefully we can get it then proceed to use it from there to edit the file03:41
geniiLikely vi is there but a pain for new users03:42
powertool08genii: vi isn't too terrible, I taught my classmate today and he was able to edit, save and quit within 10 minutes without problems03:42
DarkTanok, will try, but might fall asleep before nano fnishes03:42
powertool08genii: I'm a recent vi convert myself, I was wondering why backspace works on some machines and on others it gives me ^?03:44
geniipowertool08: I think it's one of those settings in bashrc03:44
nelsonstreetDoes anyone know exactly what the lowest ram is need for Kubuntu?03:45
WTW1how do I work out what MTA is installed in kbuntu 8.10?03:45
gcontrerWTW1, the default MTA installed on Ubuntu is postfix03:45
geniiIt's usually exim and sendmail by default03:45
gcontreruh?03:45
gcontrer:P03:45
WTW1gcontrer thanks.  that makes my life easier03:46
nelsonstreetCan I install Kubuntu on a machine with just 64 megs of ram03:46
nelsonstreetIts an old laptop I got here03:46
gcontrergenii, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Postfix03:46
dennistergenii: I'm still serious about getting that pxe install server going, hopefully with your help, but I'm going to wait a few weeks until intrepid comes out, possibly hose the one server I have left with intrepid (have everything transferred now, so no biggy), and start from scratch03:46
WTW1I'm also having a problem with static ip on eth0.  I've edited the interfaces file but the machine keeps grabing a dhcp address and I have no idea why.03:47
gcontrernelsonstreet, I think you *can* install it, if you don't install KDE on it... :P03:47
powertool08genii: ok, i'll check that out, thanks03:47
\KiraGrid Wars2's sound doesnt work unless im running compiz, but when I run compiz the superkaramba and kbfx apps flicker in and out making gameplay difficult and graphics annoying, but the game just isnt that entertaining without the sounds to match the flashy lights :) Any help?03:48
gcontrerWTW1, post your interfaces file on paste.ubuntu.com03:48
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dennisternelsonstreet: I agree with gcontrer;  it's going to be difficult because kde is the biggest pig for ram memory needs03:49
vonkleistnelsonstreet, may be you can go for ubuntu+windowmaker :P03:49
vonkleistI think xfce will not do better there...03:49
dennisteryou might want to start off with xfce/xubuntu first03:50
geniivonkleist: I am corrected on default MTA, apologies03:50
nelsonstreetI think I will just grade to more ram in it, I found another stic k of 12803:50
WTW1gcont http://paste.ubuntu.com/61327/03:50
dennisternelsonstreet: much better :)03:50
dennisteralthough kde really wants 256...xfce is still a good starting point03:51
nelsonstreetThanks I will try that03:51
CYREXwho here has tried the new kde 4.1.2 and what does he/she think about memory/cpu usage. On another note, who loves to stick with kde 3.5.10 rather than 4.x.x03:51
WTW1is postfix installed by default or do I need to install it first?  Also, does anyone know where to find instructions to set it up to use a forward relay?  I have to deposit my mail in to my ISPs smtp server.03:51
vonkleistWTW1, I got to go... maybe someone else can help you...03:52
nelsonstreetI have and personally I thought it was a bug bag OS03:52
vonkleistWTW1, no daemons are installed by default on ubuntu03:52
nelsonstreet4.1.2 that is03:52
vonkleistyou have to install them03:52
vonkleistsudo apt-get install postfix03:52
vonkleistsudo kate /etc/postfix/main.cf03:52
WTW1vonkleist thanks03:52
vonkleistlook for the relay_host line and set it up according to what you need03:53
vonkleistgiven you don't need any authentication stuff03:53
dennisteri prefer 3.5 too, but the kde team want to stop supporting 3.5, so we might as well get used to 4x03:53
BluesKajI upgraded from 1 to 2G memory ...seems a bit faster03:53
martin_i must be doing something wrong since i see no difference03:54
dennisterinstalling the kernels always seems to take a long time :(03:54
WTW1vonkleist thanks.  I'm already using postfix on my clarkconnect box to do the same thing so i should be right.  I just didn't know what I was looking for on the conf file as I use a gui on cc to configure the mta.03:54
WTW1vonkleist what do you think of that interface file?  I can't see any problems in it personally03:56
vonkleistWTW1, I neither03:56
vonkleistMaybe you have another process sending dhcp packets03:56
WTW1vonkleist crap... that wasn't the answer I was looking for ;)03:56
WTW1vonkleist all I've done so far is the basic install.  I can't think what wold be firing off a dhcp request03:57
WTW1vonkleist I did use the alternative iso though.  I wanted raid103:57
DarkTani have only one line in the sources, the CD drive03:57
vonkleistGot to go... good luck on that...03:57
WTW1thanks for ya help03:58
DarkTanany way to test my net connection?03:58
usuariohola03:58
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elvirahola03:59
genii!es | elvira03:59
ubottuelvira: En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.03:59
elvirahello03:59
elvirai need to put my cam03:59
genii!webcam04:01
ubottuInstructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras04:01
dennisterDarkTan: your installation has serious problems if you only have one item in sources.list and nano isn't even installed04:01
rmirandahi04:01
geniielvira: Have you tried the websites which the bot suggests, above?04:01
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dennisternano is standard, comes with the base installation, so I'm wondering if it's even worth your time to try and complete this installation04:02
martin_Is there a way to know what kde version you have.04:02
DarkTanwell nano is installed now04:03
DarkTani had a error at the "Installing Software" stage04:03
favroopen any app and click about martin_04:03
seektherapyCAN ANYONE HELP ME WITH THIS04:04
DarkTanwell, i try my xubuntu CD tommorow, right now: sleep.04:04
DarkTanthanks for the help04:04
geniiseektherapy: Please,not all in uppercase! Also you have not yet stated what your issue is04:04
martin_it only tells me what version of kubuntu i have, i want to know if KDE 4.1.2 was installed succesfuly04:04
CYREX@Martin - Just open any application for Kde then find the about of it04:05
seektherapygenii yes i did04:05
CYREXtipically the about of any kde app will tell you 2 things, one the version of the app and two the version of the kde04:05
seektherapyabout 3 hours ago04:05
seektherapyand since then i have been trying to figure this out04:06
geniiseektherapy: Please restate your issue so that those who have arrived in the past 3 hours may see if they can assist with it04:06
martin_ok i dont get it i installed kde 4.1.2 but it still say 3.5.904:06
geniimartin_: You need to explicity choose kde4 as your session type when logging in04:06
seektherapysure....I am using kubuntu and my audio driver isnt working04:07
geniiseektherapy: Please report the reulst of the command in Konsole of:  lspci | grep Audio04:08
seektherapyhuh04:08
mr---t-he meant results04:09
geniiseektherapy: Open up the application which is called Konsole. Then in the application window of Konsole, type in:   lspci | grep Audio                 and then tell us here what it says to you04:09
martin_genii: I only have 3 choice default(previous), KDE witch i used but still loging in KDE3, and failsafe04:11
seektherapytrying to find it04:12
seektherapyi am new to linux04:12
geniimartin_: Did you restart kdm since you did the kde4 install?04:12
seektherapyand i am leaning more towards windows after this04:13
geniiseektherapy: Kmenu button ... System...Konsole04:13
martin_genii: yes i installed last week04:13
geniiseektherapy: Whichever operating system you use is up to you. Linux is not for everyone04:13
seektherapyi found this during my 3 hour wait04:14
seektherapyhttp://connect.creativelabs.com/linux/Lists/Driver Issues/AllItems.aspx04:14
geniimartin_: By something like:   sudo apt-get install kubuntu-kde4-desktop                 or some other method?04:14
guillehi!04:14
martin_genii: i used adept manager04:14
guilleI have just install kde 4.1.2 and I start trying to get a lot of eye candy into it =)04:15
geniiseektherapy: That url seems to be giving me a 404 error. However, you have some Soundblaster card?04:15
guilleI got a little problem thougn, I can't no longer resize any window. is that a know problem?04:15
geniimartin_: Hmm. Does: apt-cache policy kubuntu-kde4-desktop                        show it as installed?04:16
martin_seektherapy: are you trying to install soundblaster with linux?04:16
seektherapyi dont have konsole04:16
Agent_bobi need an ssh guru to tell me what will cause this error message: ssh: connect to host 162.40.59.250 port 12222: Connection refused    ?04:16
Agent_bobdoesn't that mean that the box is "just saying NO"04:17
geniiseektherapy: Do you see another application called "Terminal" ?04:17
martin_genii: no iit dont, guess ill use apt-get04:17
powertool08Agent_bob: did you use -vvv it gives debug info and will tell you where the connection fails04:17
Agent_bobpowertool08 good call.04:18
seektherapyyes an i am in it and it tells me04:18
seektherapyseektherapy@seektherapy-desktop:/$04:18
seektherapyi used the command you gave me and nothing04:18
guillebasically, I want to use compiz with kde-4.1.2; so far I got 2 problems when getting compiz to work with kde: windows can't be resized and the windows decoration is fixed to plastik ( even when ozone is selected )04:18
geniiseektherapy: OK. You are using regular Ubuntu then and not Kubuntu. But aside from this. What does:     lspci | grep Audio                             tell you?04:18
Agent_bobpowertool08 problem is that the output doesn't change much.04:19
powertool08guille: There is a resize option in ccsm that has to be checked to resize windows04:19
powertool08Agent_bob: pastebin?04:19
geniiseektherapy: OK, no result then from that command, just a return to command prompt?04:19
Agent_bobpowertool08 i can post in here. only three lines.04:20
guillepowertool08: thanks! I'll check it now04:20
seektherapyyes04:20
powertool08Agent_bob: ok04:20
Agent_bobdebug1: Connecting to 162.40.59.250 [162.40.59.250] port 12222.04:20
Agent_bobdebug1: connect to address 162.40.59.250 port 12222: Connection refused04:20
Agent_bobssh: connect to host 162.40.59.250 port 12222: Connection refused04:20
powertool08Agent_bob: did you use all three v's? ie: ssh -vvv user@host gives more info than ssh -v user@host04:21
Agent_bobyep04:21
Agent_bobbut the output is same with -vv and -vvv04:21
mr---t-Agent_bob heya:04:21
geniiAgent_bob: You specified in /etc/ssh/sshd_config               the port as 12222               and restarted the ssh server?04:21
Agent_bobmr---t-04:21
Agent_bobgenii yes04:22
geniiAgent_bob: ssh localhost -p 12222                  works?04:22
Agent_bobgenii yes04:22
guillepowertool08: yeap... that did the trick =) thanks!04:22
seektherapyso genii i am assuming you dont know either04:22
Agent_bobalso the refusel is instant.04:22
powertool08guille: np04:23
geniiseektherapy: OK. I am a bit distributed but still trying to assist you. 1 minute04:23
martin_yay it works now04:23
powertool08Agent_bob: which form of authentication are you using?04:23
geniiseektherapy: The pastebin is a website to post large txt to. Please run in Terminal:   lspci                             and then highlight with the mouse the output,right click to copy it, then put in pastebin website and give here the URL it tells you. Then we can see what devices you have there and what might be the issue.04:24
genii!pastebin | seektherapy04:24
DaSkreechnelsonstreet: #fluxbuntu :)04:24
ubottuseektherapy: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)04:24
elvirapleaseeeeee04:24
bAgent_bothe ip keeps changing.04:25
marcioHi room...anyone available to help a confused rookie?04:25
bAgent_boeach time i get kicked off irc like that.  the ip changes04:25
powertool08bAgent_bo: huh?04:25
bAgent_bopowertool08 what's my ip   changes.04:25
martin_anyone knows anything about nvidia-setting04:26
geniielvira: You were kicked from channel for flooding. Put what you were trying to copy into here into a pastebin instead and then tell us the URL it gives you. The pastebin address is given above by the ubottu04:26
guillepowertool08: do you know why when activating compiz on kde with desktop-effects-kde4 then the window decoration falls back to "plastik" and doesn't stick with the previously selected one ( "ozone" )04:26
bAgent_bopowertool08 you did get my reply "it doesn't get to any form of auth"  ?04:26
powertool08guille: no, sorry, I don't use compiz04:27
powertool08bAgent_bo: do you have the denyhosts daemon running?04:27
bAgent_bopowertool08 no.  dont think so.04:27
geniimarcio: Still kopete is not connecting to msn?04:28
powertool08bAgent_bo: I've had it block my ip, check /etc/hosts.deny and if delete it if its there04:28
marciohaving plenty of trouble on my Toshiba A215 AMD64 using kubuntu amd64.....anyone04:28
guillepowertool08: mmm... you use the built-in desktop effects of kde4?04:28
bAgent_bopowertool08 hosts.deny is blank04:28
marciohi genii: nope....not working yet...04:28
marcioand this is not my main concearn right now...04:29
deftonemarcio: Use amsn04:29
powertool08guille: I just use boring kde 3.5.10, I've changed the window decorations but nothing fancy, I'm trying to transition to a tiling window manager actually04:29
martin_can some one tell me how to be able to save my xconf in nvidia-settings?04:29
geniiseektherapy: Still with us?04:30
bAgent_bopowertool08 any more thoughts on this ?04:30
powertool08bAgent_bo: I'm thinking but I'm not really a guru04:30
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nelsonstreetmacro : I have a compaq 800mhz amd 64 here I am no now04:30
marciodeftone: Ive tried amsn, emesene and even joose.04:30
DaSkreechelvira: Pretty04:30
nelsonstreetruns very good04:31
marciohey nelson:04:31
nelsonstreetyup04:31
seektherapyit wont let me paste the damn code04:31
marciogot all your drivers to work properly?04:32
DaSkreechseektherapy: Just highlight it with the mouse then you can middle click to paste it04:32
seektherapyI did04:32
nelsonstreetyeah and the video, wifi everything works great04:32
seektherapysomething is not right with my machine04:32
nelsonstreetBut java is still a problem04:32
geniiseektherapy: You can also try rightclick...paste    method04:32
powertool08Agent_bob: maybe change your sshd_config to the most basic config without any authentican and if that works add security back one step at a time?04:32
Agent_bobpowertool08 but that would affect ssh localhost too would it not. and localhost is fine.04:33
marciodamn...I have no wi-fi (atheros 5007), no mic, no bluetooh, and my ethernet adapter is working with a different driver..04:33
marcioand still havent test the webcam04:34
DaSkreechseektherapy: does lshw -C Audio give you anything ?04:34
powertool08Agent_bob: Could it be a firewall blocking it?04:35
Agent_bobthere is something about the "remote ip"/isp that is throwing the error.04:35
Agent_bobpowertool08 if it is it's not local.04:35
nelsonstreetoh the webcam err not working here either04:35
guillepowertool08: I guess that will be Window Maker? I like very much KDE4 even when I end up using most of the time konsole =)04:35
nelsonstreetI tried both usb and firewire cams neither worked04:36
geniiAgent_bob: The machine running sshd has an external IP ?04:36
powertool08guille: window maker?04:36
guillepowertool08: well, isn't window maker a window manager that provides tiling?04:37
guillepowertool08: or what do you mean with tiling?04:37
marcionelson: its a shame, got a supposed "great machine". It was supposed to make me happy.....LOL04:37
bAgent_bogenii kubuntu.boxen---adsl.modem---world04:37
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seektherapygenii: for some reason my browser isnt working like it did in ubuntu ..i am using konqyeror04:38
seektherapykonqueror04:38
DaSkreechseektherapy: Use Firefox then?04:38
Agent_bobgenii and as you may have guessed that was another isp side reset of some kind,  my ip just changed again.04:38
CYREXfirefox sucks04:38
seektherapyHow04:38
CYREXuse internet explorer04:38
geniiAgent_bob: I had a weird similar before which required modem to be in bridged mode with an intermediate router04:39
marcioat least someone knows how to make grub to recognize a different OS prevously installed?04:39
CYREXlol  Joking04:39
nelsonstreetmacrio: at least its not win****04:39
DaSkreechseektherapy: Are you in KDE now?04:39
CYREX@Marcio - If you have not yet removed the previously installed partition then you can still detect it04:39
geniiCYREX: If you have Kubuntu tech support question please ask it. Don't rant in ere, etc04:39
powertool08guille: is window maker a tiling manager? I'm using awesome on my laptop. instead of having different windows you can drag around and cover others up with, when you do a certain key combo, it splits the screen in half into 2 terminals, then splits one terminal in half into 3 total across the screen and so on, so nothing is covered04:39
seektherapyi think so04:39
marcionelson: sure it is not..but Iḿ still sadly linked to that desaster for a while,,04:40
DaSkreechseektherapy: What happens when you press Alt+Space ?04:40
Agent_bobgenii but could you irc through it? and surf the web?  and update the system?   i'm doing all of that.  just can't ssh04:40
CYREX@Genii - Am helping several people via private messages and while you have noticed that a lot come with frustrations in here every once in a while a joke is good04:40
seektherapyan icon appears04:40
guillepowertool08: well... that sounds very interesting04:40
marcioCyrex:can you pls tell me how do I find it on grub?04:41
geniiAgent_bob: Specifically in this case... everything but ssh and the voip based telephones worked. Putting the router inbetween somehow worked for this (on advice of the tech support from the voip company)04:41
seektherapykatapult04:41
geniiCYREX: Ok, yer forgiven :) Just looked like trolling at first04:41
DaSkreechseektherapy: ok type adept when it comes up and press enter04:41
CYREX@genii - Thank you hehe, np buddy04:41
DaSkreechSHould ask for your password04:41
Agent_bobgenii recall howto ?04:42
seektherapyok04:42
seektherapyin there04:43
Agent_bobgenii i just examined the adsl modem again, it has one switch.  power on/off   ;/04:43
powertool08guille: here is a youtube video of xmonad, its similar to awesome http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZAmMdRBRjs&feature=related04:43
geniiAgent_bob: This modem was a Speedtouch 510, it had in web gui the option for bridged mode. Then the router was some cheap Dynex or so. Used it to do the pppoe login to ISP. Then assigned by MAC same internal IP to server and forwarded 22 to it04:44
Agent_bobwindstream here ;/04:44
nelsonstreetSMC static here04:44
geniiAgent_bob: Has some web control panel?04:45
martin_how can i change my Xorg.conf04:48
martin_im sick of changing witch screen comes on when i boot in linux04:49
powertool08martin_: edit it with kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf or other preferred editor04:49
Mike804I have a sound issue anyone good with HDA intel or tascam USB?04:49
genii!intelhda04:49
ubottuFor fixing your Intel HDA sound this page has useful information https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto04:49
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geniibAgent_bo: Man, yer having terrible connection probs04:50
powertool08martin_: You might want to make a backup copy before changing it, could leave you in a totally command line environment if something gets messed up04:50
Agent_bobgenii yeah04:50
georgeIs there a Ubuntu/Kubuntu client optimized for gaming (running the least possible crap, bare minimum as processes are concerned.)04:50
martin_powertool08: Im going to use what nvidia-settings wants to write but can't for some reason04:50
geniigeorge: These are games you're running in wine or native linux games?04:51
dennisterall done: kubuntu gutsy installed with dual boot on a compaq armada e500 :) and on a tiny 12G hdd04:51
Agent_bobgenii i'm expecting that the isp is "krap"  anything that starts with "win" throws red flags...04:51
geniiAgent_bob: hehe, true04:51
georgeIncluded basic preinstalled applications (email client, I.M. Client, web client) none of the un-needed software04:51
georgegenii> both mostly native linux04:51
DaSkreechgeorge: That would be failsafe on the Login Prompt04:52
Mike804can someone walk me through getting sound?  Otherwise I may as wekk dump Ubuntu04:52
Mike804can someone walk me through getting sound?  Otherwise I may as well dump Ubuntu04:52
Agent_bobi'm wondering if the modem is configured incorrectly   but i don't know any username/passowrd for it.04:52
georgeDaSkreech: wont that load generic drivers?04:52
DaSkreechIt'll load X with  what ever drivers you told X to load and a Single Xterm thats it04:53
geniiMike804: Whichever operating you choose to use is your prerogative. Have you tried yet the instructions for your Intel HDA adapter that the bot had suggested, above?04:53
DaSkreech!sound04:53
ubottuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP304:53
Mike804Genii: I would love to - but I am not even advanced enough to understand them04:54
Mike804!sound04:54
ubottuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP304:54
nelsonstreetYeah that sound fix worked great for me04:55
geniiMike804: The webpage is fairly straight forward in it's instructions. Perhaps try, and then if you are having problems, ask here how to do the next step it requires, until you are done04:55
genii!intelhda | Mike80404:55
ubottuMike804: For fixing your Intel HDA sound this page has useful information https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto04:55
martin_powertool08: how do i backup?04:56
Mike804audiotestsrc wave=sine freq=512 ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudiosink: Failed to connect stream: Invalid argument04:56
DaSkreech!backup04:57
ubottuThere are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning04:57
Mike804I get that error testing all sound04:57
DaSkreech>_<04:57
Mike804How can I tell what version of ALSA I have -04:57
powertool08martin_: just make a copy "cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak"04:57
martin_DaSkreech: not my system, I want to backup my xorg04:57
DaSkreechcp /etc/X11/xorg.conf ~/orig.xorg.conf.bak04:58
powertool08martin_: throw a sudo on the front of that or it will fail04:58
martin_thats what i thought04:59
DaSkreechpowertool08: Mine works :)04:59
powertool08Or you can use DaSkreech's method, mine puts it in the same place as the original, DaSkreech's puts it in your home drive so no sudo needed04:59
martin_i've used the sudo aproach05:00
powertool08DaSkreech: I noticed ;) I tend to backup xorg's where they are though, not sure why...05:00
DaSkreechand keeps it in an annoying enough place that if the changes work you have reason to clean up after yourself05:00
DaSkreech!paste > seektherapy05:01
ubottuseektherapy, please see my private message05:01
martin_wow now that i try to save kate crashed :(05:01
powertool08martin_: so if you break your gui just use sudo mv xorg.conf.bak to xorg.conf and it will overwrite the b0rked config with your original05:01
DaSkreechmartin_: did you open it with kdesudo ?05:02
martin_now i have and am affraid to try05:04
martin_brb stating x05:04
mike-solidushey, my firefox is broken with php files, it keeps asking if i want to download them05:04
geniiMike804: in Konsole:   alsactl -v                        should tell you what version of alsa you are using05:04
martin_WOOHOO!!! i finaly got my linux the way i wanted it05:05
martin_Thx guys05:06
powertool08martin_: lol, is that possible? Mine has been in a constant state of improvement since it was installed05:06
martin_wow firefox looks horrible in KDE 405:06
nelsonstreethehe05:06
nelsonstreetkde 405:06
geniimartin_: Well, most GTK apps do05:06
martin_powertool08: im too new at this to know what i want other than my screens properly independant and not 1 big desktop05:07
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powertool08martin_: I just meant that its kind of a hobby os, there will always be something you are trying to fix, not necessarily because its broken, just because you want to try it a different way05:08
DaSkreechgenii: ok so when lspci and lshw -C audio show nothing is that a hardware issue?05:08
geniiDaSkreech: It could be a USB one05:08
geniiBut lshw shoulda showed that05:09
geniiDaSkreech: Is it some onboard sound which could have accidentally been disabled in bios or so?05:09
DaSkreechseektherapy: do You know what kind of sound card you have?05:09
DaSkreechThat's the next step I was looking at05:09
Guest28041g'day to all05:10
DaSkreech!au05:10
ubottuau is the Australian LoCo Team has a channel at #ubuntu-au05:10
DaSkreech:-)05:10
nelsonstreet!ca05:10
ubottuCanadian Ubuntu users can be found in #ubuntu-ca05:10
Guest28041a kubuntu beginner here05:10
DaSkreechWelcome to Kubuntu!05:10
Guest28041thanks daskreech05:11
nelsonstreet!java05:11
ubottuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre or sun-java6-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu !Dapper05:11
martin_powertool08: i know and understand, but since day 1 4 months ago i've been trying to figure out this problems and finaly managed it05:11
geniiDaSkreech: I find it amusing that at least those 2 other ubuntu english channels when everyone just ends up here that speaks english05:11
martin_no one wanted to help me with this don['t know why05:12
Guest28041is this the place to ask for help05:12
nelsonstreet!Multiverse05:12
DaSkreechand badly needed language channels aren't created :(05:12
ubottuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories05:12
mr---t-!ask05:12
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)05:12
martin_but now it's done and time to change it the wan i want05:12
DaSkreechgenii: http://paste.ubuntu.com/61347/ anything sticks out to you?05:13
geniiDaSkreech: Reading, 1 minute05:13
geniiDaSkreech: Other than they are running as root? ;)05:13
martin_Im off later05:14
nelsonstreetwow awesome link :)05:14
Guest28041curious if there is a web cam that works good in kubuntu05:14
nelsonstreet!webcam05:14
ubottuInstructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras05:14
Guest28041thanks mate05:15
DaSkreechgenii: The MB seems ot have a number of "memory slots"05:15
geniiDaSkreech: I see it now. I'll snip and repastebin the relevant section05:16
DaSkreechWhy would it not be exposing what the controllers are actually doing?05:16
DaSkreechgenii: X-Fi ?05:18
geniiDaSkreech: http://paste.ubuntu.com/61351/05:18
geniiYes05:18
\KiraHow could I stop kubuntu from using a wireless device, but still have it enabled for a virtualbox OS to use?05:18
DaSkreech\Kira: Don't assign it an ip address?05:19
geniiDaSkreech: "unassigned" usually means could not be given an interrupt05:19
DaSkreechYou mean UNCLAIMED ?05:19
geniiHehe Maybe...it's getting late here and short on coffee05:20
geniiDaSkreech: A dmesg dump might be useful05:20
nelsonstreetgenii: warm cokes works best05:20
geniinelsonstreet: Thanks for the recommendation05:21
marcioanyone knows if CYREX will be back?05:22
DaSkreechgenii: Does Creative still think that Linux is FTL ?05:22
mr---t-ftl?05:23
DaSkreech!FTW ?05:24
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about ftw ?05:24
DaSkreechha ha05:24
nelsonstreetmacio: yes he lives here05:24
geniiFaster Than Light ?05:24
nelsonstreetmarcio: yes he lives here05:25
marciothanks nelson...if I cant find him tonight I´ĺl find him tomorrow05:25
DaSkreechgenii: Not For the Win05:26
mr---t-oh05:26
sheaweird05:27
sheadeath note05:27
roganwhy wont kaffeine play a dvd?05:28
DaSkreech!dvd05:28
ubottuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats05:28
geniiseektherapy: Do you know EXACTLY what X-Fi you have? There seems to be about 13 different ones05:29
DaSkreechgenii: http://paste.ubuntu.com/61355/ What are we looking for?05:29
geniiDaSkreech: 1 minute, reading05:29
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elviraCYR05:34
elviraCYR05:35
nelsonstreet!Just-In-Time Compiler05:35
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)05:35
elviraCYR+05:35
nelsonstreet!Just-In-Time05:35
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about just-in-time05:35
elviraHELP MEEEEEEEEEEEEEE05:35
nelsonstreetYes05:35
DaSkreechelvira: With?05:36
nelsonstreet!CYR05:36
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about cyr05:36
mr---t-stop yelling05:36
nelsonstreet!CYR+05:36
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about cyr+05:36
elviracyre05:36
elviraO ALGO ASI, NO RECERDOOOO05:37
nelsonstreetelvira no need to yell05:37
mr---t-!es05:37
ubottuEn la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.05:37
DaSkreechWhat's CYR?05:37
nelsonstreetnever heard of it05:37
mr---t-apparently it's somthing to yell about05:37
elviraHE05:38
DaSkreechelvira: CYR is a person ?05:38
elviraCYRET05:38
DaSkreechCYREX ?05:38
elviraSI05:38
DaSkreechCyrex isn't here right now. What can we help with?05:38
elvira i need read mi mail, hotmail05:39
elvirai need put my webcam05:39
nelsonstreet!webcam05:39
ubottuInstructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras05:39
DaSkreechelvira: Hotmail doesn't like Konqueror use Firefox05:40
elviracant05:40
DaSkreechWhy?05:40
elvirai know05:41
geniiDaSkreech: Weird. Dmesg output does not even have 0000:05:09.0   in it anywhere which is where the X-Fi is apparently sitting according to the previous lshw dump.05:41
nelsonstreetyou know why, please tell05:41
elvirabut, cant install firefox05:41
DaSkreechwhy?05:42
DaSkreechDoes it give an error?05:42
geniielvira: in Konsole:    sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install firefox05:42
DaSkreechgenii: The nVidia card turns up?05:42
elviradone05:42
geniiDaSkreech: I wasn't looking for the video card :)05:43
elvirabut, i cant read mail05:43
DaSkreechgenii: Doesn't the nForce ship with an nVidia audio solution?05:43
DaSkreechused to be HD till Intel got all up in there05:43
elvirawhy cant read mail?05:43
DaSkreechelvira: Go to hotmail in firefox it will tell you that you can't05:44
DaSkreechThe last link in that message lets you read it anyway05:44
elvirawhos cyrex?05:44
DaSkreechthen read your mail05:44
geniiDaSkreech: Not sure. But Creative's site says beta linux drivers for X-Fi are available. Except when you follow the link you now need to choose from an array of about 15 models. So knowing EXACT model would be useful05:44
geniiDaSkreech: eg: http://support.creative.com/Products/Products.aspx?catid=209&catName=X-Fi05:45
elvirawhats amsn?05:45
DaSkreechelvira: Like WIndows Live Messenger05:45
DaSkreechit lets you talk to people on Hotmail05:45
DaSkreechNot check mail05:45
memeemeeeanyone use vnc4viewer?05:46
nelsonstreetvlc05:47
geniielvira: You may need java for Hotmail05:47
memeemeeeno vncviewer05:47
nelsonstreetjava I hate05:47
nelsonstreet!java05:48
geniinelsonstreet: It's a neccesary evil05:48
ubottuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre or sun-java6-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu !Dapper05:48
elvirai know linux05:48
nelsonstreetyeah I know05:48
elvirai mad for linux05:48
nelsonstreetjava is pssing me off05:48
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elvirai don know linux05:48
geniinelsonstreet: Email complaints dept at Sun ;)05:48
nelsonstreetlol05:49
roganHow do I play a dvd? I installed medibuntu and mplayer is not working05:49
elvirao05:49
elvirao05:49
elvirano05:49
ardchoilleis Kubuntu 8.04 an LTS release?05:50
geniielvira: Which Kubuntu you have? 7.10? 8.04? 8.10?   other?05:50
nelsonstreetrogan: try this  http://www.videolan.org/vlc/download-ubuntu.html05:50
mr---t-yes05:50
DaSkreechelvira: I'm in Hotmail now in Firefox05:50
mr---t-ardchoille:  yes05:51
ardchoillemr---t-: Ah, good05:51
vonkleistgenii> elvira: You may need java for Hotmail <---- what for?05:51
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geniimr---t-: I'm pretty sure it's Not LTS btw05:51
mr---t-my upgrade says it is05:52
elviralearn me05:52
geniivonkleist: Some of the sections on Hotmail use java applets, like opening up the Compose window05:52
mr---t-my play box asked if I wanted to upgrade to 8.04 lts05:52
vonkleistgenii, do you mean java or javascript?05:53
elvirawell, i love you05:53
elvirasee you tomorrow,05:53
elvirathank for be so swety05:53
vonkleistgenii, I'm right now composing an email at hotmail, and it didn't use a java applet05:54
elviraelvira_w76@hotmail.com05:54
geniimr---t-: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-devel/2007-December/002099.html         for more info05:54
elvirabesos05:55
vonkleistin fact I don't even have the java plugin for firefox05:55
elvirabye05:55
vonkleistelvira, dulces sueños05:55
elviraGracias , mi vida05:55
nelsonstreetway to go  Synatic Package managerr it fixed my java problem05:55
ralphomine too05:56
roganStill unable to play a DVD have tried VLC (disc starts running then vlc closes down) Mplayer starts to read disk (can hear music form dvd start to play then gives me some sort of connection error) Kaffine player does not work05:59
geniivonkleist: Weird, when I hover on it it says in the link bar at bottom some java gibberish on mine05:59
* genii wonders if the site autodetects whether it's installed or so05:59
nelsonstreetrogan try disabling mplayer I had to do this to make Kaffeine to work06:01
nelsonstreetgo to add/reove06:02
nelsonstreetremove06:02
roganI installed mplayer after kaffeine refused to work but i will give it a try06:02
niklauz!synaptiv06:03
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about synaptiv06:03
niklauz!synaptic06:03
ubottusynaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto06:03
nelsonstreetyes use synaptic06:03
nelsonstreetits a great help06:03
mr---t-ardchoille: my bad kubuntu is not LTS Ubuntu 8.04 is but not Kubuntu06:04
ardchoillemr---t-: Oh, ok, thanks for the info06:04
mr---t-sorry for the mis info06:05
ardchoilleno worries :)06:05
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powertoo108Does anybody use wpa_supplicant? I'm getting this error: ioctl[SIOCSIWAUTH]: Operation not supported <next line> WEXT auth param 4 value 0x006:05
ardchoilleHas anyone reported a problem when using nvidia drivers that logging out doesn't actually log you out but leave you with a black screen on tty7?06:06
rogannelsonstreet: still nothing..06:06
monica0519hello, i just installed kubuntu 8.04 on my laptop, and it cannot detect my wireless device, how do i fix this?06:07
nelsonstreetrogan: did you try looking through Synaptic?06:07
nelsonstreetlook in System06:07
nelsonstreetSynaptic package manager06:07
nelsonstreet!wireless06:08
ubottuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs06:08
ardchoille!nvidia06:08
ubottuFor Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto06:08
ardchoilleI forgot there was a bot here, lol06:08
monica0519;)06:09
nelsonstreetI want to kiss this bot, its saved me a few times06:09
monica0519wow06:09
monica0519is there anyway someone could help me thru this?06:10
monica0519err, walk me thru it06:10
monica0519:)06:10
geniivonkleist: http://i36.tinypic.com/2rp2mtc.png            bottom left on browser some javascript crap06:10
vonkleistgenii, java != javascript06:10
vonkleistgenii, javascript != java applet06:11
geniivonkleist: Ah right I keep forgetting06:11
nelsonstreetmonica do you happen to know what your wifi card is06:11
monica0519how can i find out?06:11
nelsonstreetSystem. SysInfo06:11
geniivonkleist: java= language javascript = built-in old Netscape browser extensions06:11
crashedataHelp please... I am using a laptop with both Gnome and KDE installed. I perfer KDE, but it only gives me about 10 minutes of battery time. On the same laptop, I get about 2 hours of battery time out of Gnome.06:11
vonkleistgenii, not at all06:12
vonkleistgenii, javascript is a language too06:13
vonkleistgenii, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JavaScript06:13
DaSkreechcrashedata: That's by far the widest margin of strange I've every heard06:13
rogannelsonstreet: needed libdvdcss2 fyi06:13
vonkleistgenii, read "Not to be confused with Java (programming language)."06:13
geniivonkleist: I recall vaguely something about Navigator pioneering it into html or so. But then again I'm exhausted at 1:13AM here without coffee06:13
crashedataI know. I am amazed that this could happen. Same laptop. I ran tests using both desktops, each with full battery when started.06:14
nelsonstreetmonica0519: did you go to this web site : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs06:14
crashedataMy laptop is an HP Pavilion dv6000. I don't think that should matter though.06:14
vonkleistgenii, javascript is heavely used today on almost every webpage you got... a lot more than java applets06:15
monica0519nelsonstreet: yeah, i am dl'ing the restricted extras to see if that helps, what do you recommend?06:15
vonkleistgenii, but well... it's not on channel's topic, so let cease this... :)06:16
geniivonkleist: Which makes me wonder about the poor woman who couldn't read her hotmails again ;)06:16
monica0519i should add that the website is like chinese to me, lolz06:16
nelsonstreetRead about Ndiswrapper06:16
monica0519ok, brb =)06:16
geniiBetter yet the manpage for smb.conf06:16
seektherapyok06:16
seektherapygenii06:16
seektherapyits been 6 hrs now06:17
geniiseektherapy: Yes?06:17
seektherapysound card06:17
seektherapy SB X-Fi06:17
crashedataDaSkreech: I have tried everything I can think of to get it fixed, but nothing seems to be working. I even replaced the battery, and still the same problem.06:17
geniiseektherapy: Yes, you have which EXACT model, do you know? Creative has beta linux drivers but specific model is needed to choose which driver06:17
nelsonstreetmonica0519: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper/FAQ06:17
DaSkreechcrashedata: Bring that up in #kde I've never heard of anything like that but  maybe you have some crazy Superkarmab applet that's purpose is to test battery depletion that I've never heard of06:18
seektherapyi gave YOU that info06:18
seektherapyremember06:18
monica0519yeah, i'm reading the info now ;)06:18
geniiseektherapy: I'll scroll up and look06:18
DaSkreechseektherapy: There seems to be quite a number of those06:19
geniiseektherapy: I went back 4 hours in scroll and i can definitely tell you that you did not relay to me the exact model of your X-Fi card06:20
seektherapyCreative Labs screws Linux users06:20
geniiseektherapy: Did you try to private-message it to me? Because if so I would not have gotten the message if your username is not registered yet at Freenode06:21
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geekhmm06:25
nelsonstreethumm06:26
geekwould a 5 gb partition be enough for a fairly basic kubuntu install?06:26
nelsonstreetyes06:26
geekincluding swap, for a 384 mb ram system06:26
nelsonstreetyes06:26
geekcool06:27
* geek wants to throw a kubuntu install on one of the older shared boxen at home since i can't stand working in windows now06:27
geeki'm spolit ;p06:27
ardchoillegeek: I would think 5Gb is overkill06:27
nelsonstreetlol06:27
geekardchoille: what's the minimum?06:28
nelsonstreet2 g maybe06:28
ardchoillegeek: last I read it wasn't much06:29
ardchoillelooking..06:29
geekardchoille: neat06:29
monica0519nelsonstreet: are you still here?06:31
ardchoillegeek: I can't find the page now. But if you have a 5gb hdd, then you shold be good to go unless you download/store a lot of media06:32
geekardchoille: not likely. i have a file server for that ;p06:33
DaSkreechseektherapy: Would you recognize the card if you saw a picture of it?06:33
nelsonstreetgeek: read this page http://osdir.com/ml/ubuntu.devel.kubuntu/2006-06/msg00000.html06:33
nelsonstreetmonica0519: yes06:33
ardchoillegeek: I installed Kubuntu yesterday and "df -h" reports for /dev/sda1 = 2.5 gigs06:34
monica0519pm plz?06:34
nelsonstreetsure06:34
geekardchoille: good enough06:34
monica0519ty06:34
monica0519;)06:34
ardchoillegeek: and I installed a lot of apps from the repos too06:34
geekardchoille: i just need a basic set up. only thing i'd add on is firefox06:35
ardchoilleshould be ok then06:35
ardchoillenow I'm thinking that I'm wasting 65 gigs on this hdd, lol06:35
geekmedia is stored on SMB shares on another box ;p06:35
ardchoillesmart move :)06:35
geekactually since i got my fileserver up i feel the same way06:35
geekardchoille: i started off setting a irc server. i procrastinated. next thing i know, i have torrentflux, webdav and samba installed and set up ;p06:36
ardchoille:)06:37
geek(and i need something to use while i backup and  try out intrepid on my main box)06:39
ardchoillegeek: you can always use a livecd that has PartImage on it to make a disk image of your main install just in case06:41
ardchoilleI do that weekly as part of my backup scheme06:41
ardchoillegeek: PM?06:41
geekardchoille: naw. g4l06:41
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faileasardchoille: sure06:42
aliangwhat are you talking about06:42
DaSkreechtackat: Hi06:44
aliangHI06:44
faileasaliang: oh, i'm setting up a secondary linux box so that i don't suffer while i prep my box for backup ;p06:44
alianggood06:45
nelsonstreet!mazaika06:53
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about mazaika06:53
Wind67bye06:53
DaSkreechBye06:53
DaSkreech!bye06:53
ubottuAu revoir!06:53
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monica0519could a wifi pci card be disabled in BIOS?07:03
nelsonstreet!bio update07:04
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about bio update07:04
nelsonstreet!bio07:04
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about bio07:04
nelsonstreet!bios07:04
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about bios07:04
monica0519pooey07:04
DaSkreechmonica0519: no07:05
nelsonstreetDaSkreech: can you help with Monica's wifi07:06
monica0519plz07:06
geniimonica0519: Yes, many bios allow you to disable the wifi in there. some laptops also have a small exterior physical switch which can also do this07:06
DaSkreechWhat's the problem?07:06
monica0519oh boy07:06
DaSkreechyou can disable a addin card from the BIOS?07:06
monica0519its a doozy07:06
DaSkreechUnless I'm reading it wrong07:07
geniiDaSkreech: Ah, PCI probably not :)07:07
monica0519i just installed 8.04 on my lappy, but it doesnt recognize my wireless device07:07
monica0519i have an Atheros multiband wifi card07:07
monica0519pci07:07
monica0519i installed ndis gtk07:08
monica0519madwifi07:08
monica0519everything bcant find themut the windows drivers, as i07:08
monica0519:(07:08
monica0519wth did i type07:08
monica0519lolz07:08
monica0519srry i must have hit the pad07:09
monica0519lolz07:09
genii!enter | monica051907:09
ubottumonica0519: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!07:09
monica0519ok, i'm sorry07:09
DaSkreechso you followed the help in the bots links?07:11
monica0519yes, thanks to nelsonstreet07:11
DaSkreechAnd your lappy has the kill switch on?07:11
monica0519yes07:11
DaSkreechcan you see the card in ls* output?07:12
monica0519lspci? yes07:12
monica0519Atheros Communications Inc. AR242x 802.11abg Wireless PCI Express Adapter (rev 01)07:13
monica0519hello?07:18
DaSkreechtrying to find what I can about that07:18
monica0519oh, ty so much07:18
DaSkreechWhich laptop?07:22
monica0519umm07:25
monica0519ok, how do i pull up the model info?07:26
DaSkreechhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=90286007:26
DaSkreechThat looks useful07:26
monica0519thats for a AMD64, i have an Intel i38607:27
monica0519ok, the drivers i blacklisted earlier, how do i enable those?07:28
DaSkreechDo you remember how you blacklisted them?07:29
monica0519yea, brb07:29
powertoo108Anyone care to take on another wifi problem?07:29
monica0519echo -e "blacklist bcm43xx\nblacklist b43\nblacklist b43legacy\nblacklist ath_pci\nblacklist ath_hal\nblacklist ssb" | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist07:29
powertoo108I have a wpa_supplicant connection error ioctl[siocsiwauth] operation not supported07:30
DaSkreechmonica0519: open /etc/modprobe/blacklist and take out the bottom  lines starting with bcm34xx07:31
monica0519kk, just a sec07:32
powertoo108DaSkreech: Any ideas on my error?07:35
DaSkreech!wpa07:35
ubottuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs07:35
DaSkreechBest I can give07:35
DaSkreechThey have WPA specific page07:36
powertoo108DaSkreech: thanks, i'll check again, maybe I can find something I missed earlier :/07:36
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rogan!wifi07:56
ubottuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs07:56
DaSkreechmonica0519: There should be no difference in the instructions for i386 and AMD6407:57
faileasDaSkreech: er... you mean EMT64 and AMD64? ;p07:59
faileascause i suspect AMD64 assembler has some stuff thats not in 38608:00
DaSkreechfaileas: No It's compiling from source it will compile for the arch it's on08:00
faileasahh08:00
* faileas misunderstood08:00
roganhow can I get Amarok to read id3v2 tags and play m4a format08:07
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roganHow can I get Amarok to play M4a format and correctly display/read id3v2 tags?08:36
JackWinterhow do i disable scanning of file systems at bootup ?  it might be very inconvinient if it would happen at the wrong moment when i'm in a hurry for some  reason.  big partitions can take a lot of time...08:40
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JackWinteri just installed kcmpureftpd into kubuntu 8.04 / kde 3.5.10.  where do i find it in the menu structure ?  or how do i execute it ?08:56
rogantry #ubuntu .. its a bit more lively tonight than this channel08:57
powertoo108JackWinter: try whereis kcmpureftpd09:06
powertoo108JackWinter: usually the d on the end means daemon so you can probably control it with sudo /etc/init.d/kcmpureftpd {start|stop|restart}09:07
powertoo108JackWinter_: and try whereis kcmpureftpd to find the binary in your system09:08
zer0ohi guys i use wicd, i dunno what ive done but i have three icons of wicd on the icon tray, how do i remove two of em just keeping one? thanks09:09
JackWinter_powertoo108: it says that it's a kde control panel.  then i don't have to edit files in /etc, no ?  the problem is i don't know what the executable is called either :)09:10
powertoo108zer0o: in a terminal run "ps aux | grep wicd" if you see 3 instances running then kill 2 of them09:10
powertoo108JackWinter_: hmm the end "ftpd" looks like a ftp server09:11
powertoo108JackWinter_: was it in the repos or did you compile it?09:12
JackWinter_this is a kde inteface for setting up and controlling pure-ftp09:12
JackWinter_powertoo108: it's from the repositories.  that's why i'm suprised not being able to find it somewhere in kde :)09:13
powertoo108JackWinter_: did you try autocomplete with kcm <tab>?09:13
JackWinter_powertoo108: good idea :)09:14
JackWinter_powertoo108: no combination of kcm and capitalization will find it...09:15
powertoo108hmm09:15
JackWinter_oh, well maybe i'll load the gnome utility instead :)09:16
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powertoo108JackWinter_: are kcminit kcminit_startup and kcmshell related to it?09:17
assa9er__hello all09:18
JackWinter_powertoo108: don't know, i'll go investigate09:18
powertoo108hello assa9er__09:18
assa9er__fine powertoo10809:19
assa9er__thanks09:19
roganHow can I get Amarok to play M4a format and correctly display/read id3v2 tags?09:20
zer0opowertoo108: there are three of them running but one is daemon.py one is monitor.py and one is wicd-client.py, if i go into that folder /usr/lib/wicd/wicd whic one i keep? and which one i delete? thx09:21
powertoo108zer0o: hmm, I'm not sure you want to delete any of them09:24
JackWinter_powertoo108: thanks, kcmshell got me going!09:24
powertoo108JackWinter_: no problem09:24
Kohl^UniI have a problem with my sound in 8.04. I can play sounds fine after booting, but after resuming from Suspend I can't hear any sounds, though the programs in question don't show any errors.09:24
zer0opowertoo108: but i think if i have 3 same icons on the tray at every boot it's because of this 3 files, so if i delete 2 of em one is gonna remain anyway09:25
Kohl^UniAlso, unloading the sounddriver via modprobe -r tells me that it is "still in use", though I shut down the ALSA soundserver and stopped all programs using sound09:25
Kohl^UniThis is on a laptop with a "hda-intel" soundchip09:26
powertoo108zer0o: are all 3 icons equal? since the 3 scripts have different names I would guess that they have different functions09:26
powertoo108zer0o: I wouldn't delete them just yet, maybe you could rename them or move them to another directory and see if they still start and if not did you lose any functionality, then if everything still works delete them09:28
zer0oi can always like backup them before removing and then boot 2-3 times and c if it works09:30
zer0oalright thanks powertoo10809:30
powertoo108zer0o: np09:30
* powertoo108 sleeps for 5+ hrs09:31
JackTophow do i updatefrom hardy to interprid beta ?09:33
Woody86does anyone know where I can download the 64 bit version of Kubuntu 8.10??09:45
powertool08Woody86: http://www.kubuntu.org/getkubuntu/download09:54
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powertool08Woody86: whoops, looks like 8.10 isn't on there09:55
Woody86powertool08 -  yeah, that's what I noticed :(09:55
powertool08Woody86: under the start download link click the link that says complete list of download locations09:56
nelsonstreet Is it on distrowatch maybe09:56
powertool08I don't know which mirror is best for you so I can't give you a direct link09:57
powertool08Woody86: ^09:57
nelsonstreethttp://www.kubuntu.org/getkubuntu09:58
Woody86powertool08 -  aha!09:58
Woody86powertool08 -  you are a genius!09:58
Woody86I wound up clicking on the mirror, and then the 8.10 folder, and they have 64 bit there :)09:58
powertool08Woody86: thanks, but after fighting my wifi card for 10 hours I don't feel like one :P09:58
nelsonstreetWow it says its there but its not listed09:59
Woody86powertool08 -  fighting, what are you talking about? Mine works flawlessly out of the box :P09:59
nelsonstreethttp://mirrors.ccs.neu.edu/releases.ubuntu.com/8.10/10:00
powertool08Woody86: I have arch on the lappy, kubuntu on the desktop10:00
lup0_shouldn't the RC be released today?10:01
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powertool08Woody86: and i insisted on doing it the hard way, cli all the way, no gui10:01
Woody86yeah, I have Ubuntu on my laptop (hard wireless to get working) Kubuntu on my desktop (wireless works out of the box)10:01
nelsonstreetNice speed on the d/l,  4.9 M/sec10:01
Woody86go figure10:01
Woody86powertool08 -  /forehead/slap10:02
nelsonstreetwow that was a fast d/l10:02
powertool08Woody86: thats odd, I had gutsy on my laptop for a bit and it worked ootb after enabling the restricted driver10:02
Woody86powertool08 -  I had to work forever on mine, but when I upgraded it to 8.10 **luckily** all the wireless configuration stayed working10:03
powertool08Woody86: I like cli, and when I break my gui horribly I don't have to freak out because I can still do everything except look at images until I get it working10:03
Woody86powertool08 -  i wish i knew anything besides "reboot" on the cli :(10:04
Woody86I'm a mouse addict10:04
Ratchet4620hey guys i need some help getting my video camera to work through Firewire10:04
Woody86too many years under windows10:04
powertool08Woody86: just pick one app, find a lighter weight version and switch, continue until you favor cli more10:04
powertool08Woody86: for example, I'm using irssi for irc, not xchat10:04
chris__I've got a problem with Wine.. can you help me please?10:04
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powertool08Woody86: I switched from amarok to mpd(music player daemon)+ncmpc which controls it10:05
Woody86powertool08 -  yeah but I would have no idea where to start, and I usually am only on the internet10:05
powertool08keldrona: I don't know anything about wine... I can't ever get stuff to work right with it10:05
Woody86powertool08 -  or uploading pics, that's about it :(10:06
powertool08Woody86: elinks, links, lynx, links2, w3m? there are tons of text browsers10:06
Woody86powertool08 -  ok, maybe I'll give it a go on my laptop :)10:07
powertool08Woody86: I switched to finch for aim, I did file editing with nano then switched to vi, file management (moving copying deleting) via cli with mv cp rm10:07
Woody86powertool08 -  I don't think it would be worth it to build a $1200 rig, and use it in CLI, though :D10:07
powertool08Woody86: Just take small tasks, try it both ways, some are better gui, some are much faster with cli, the file management commands are a good place to start, then move to editing config files in a terminal10:08
powertool08Woody86: I also use sudo aptitude install <package> over synaptic10:08
Woody86I've become used to gedit, but that's about it for file managing10:08
Woody86powertool08 -  what browser would you recommend?10:09
powertool08Woody86: I switch around... I usually use firefox because I like the addons but opera is nice, epiphany is very lightweight and fast but few addons :(10:10
powertool08I've been using links -g on my laptop lately, my goal is to be as minimalistic on it as possible10:10
Woody86powertool08 -  sry, I meant text-only ones?10:11
Woody86ah, ok10:11
powertool08Woody86: oh, I mainly use elinks but honestly I don't use text only browsing often10:11
powertool08Woody86: links is text and links with the -g switch is a lightweight gui version10:12
powertool08Woody86: actually its kind of a hybrid, it does graphics but to open a page you push "g" and it opens a box to enter the url and you can use it with or without the mouse10:13
assa9er__i wwant to enter to other chanels?10:13
Woody86powertool08 -  hmm.... I may have to give it a try :) see how it works10:13
powertool08assa9er__: type "/join #<channelname>10:14
powertool08"10:14
powertool08Woody86: awesome, you may find you like it better :)10:14
Woody86powertool08 -  hopefully, I'm a minimalist at heart, so it might just work out :)10:15
assa9er__"join #help10:15
assa9er__"join #help"10:15
assa9er__"/join #help"10:15
powertool08Woody86: hopefully, I enjoy minimalism but I also recognize there is a difference between being lightweight and efficient and doing it for the sake of claiming minimalism10:16
powertool08assa9er__: no ""10:16
Woody86assa9er__ -  try it without the quotes ""10:16
powertool08assa9er__: sorry, I didn't mean to confuse, I meant it as type whats in the quotes10:16
assa9er__yes thanks it works now10:17
Woody86powertool08 -  ah, very true, the "when is enough enough" conundrum10:17
powertool08Woody86: Really the only thing that truly makes cli so difficult is that its a lot of memorization of key combos which relate to specific commands10:18
powertool08Woody86: with a gui you don't have to read man pages you just look around for a minute until you find the button/menu/etc you're looking for10:19
Woody86powertool08 -  yeah, that's one thing I've notced, too. It seems like everytime I try to use the CLI I forget what command to use, and then try to google it, and then give up and do it in a gui :)10:19
Woody86but then again, I've always been a very visual learner my entire life, so it fits a little better for me10:19
powertool08Woody86: almost every terminal command has the -h or --help switch and will give some insight to the options which go with the command, if that doesn't help "man whatever command you want to run" will tell you more, if its not there, there's google and irc, or the gui version10:20
powertool08Woody86: I've also come to love screen, i can start irssi with screen, go somewhere else, ssh into my box and detach the session from the terminal and attach it wherever i am, then i can talk and its like i never left my room10:21
Woody86powertool08 -  heh, well i defiantly want to become more proficient with the cli, so I guess there is no better way than to just use it10:22
powertool08Woody86: or whenever X crashes programs running in screen don't close10:22
Woody86powertool08 -  that's pretty neat10:23
Woody86why use screen instead of just installing and using irssi from the computer you're on?10:23
powertool08Woody86: yep, you grab screen from aptitude and the instead of running $ irssi, run $ screen -S irssi irssi which is -S <- give the session a name <session name> <command to run>10:24
powertool08Woody86: screen is kinda like a container, irssi runs inside of it10:24
powertool08Woody86: then you can detach it with ctrl+a then release and hit d, then it goes back to the terminal prompt but irssi is still running10:26
Woody86yeah, but what are the advantages of using screen rather than just installing irssi onto the computer you're on?10:26
powertool08Woody86: say I go to my university's computer lab, its a windows box and i want to run some program that won't run on windows (i think irssi has a windows version)10:27
powertool08Woody86: I can use putty to ssh to my box at home, normally if irssi was running when i left I would have to start a new instance, or kill the process then start a new instance, with screen, i just detach it from my home desktop, reattach to my current putty session, i can scroll up and see whats been said since i left my house or whatever else10:29
Woody86powertool08 -  ah, I see. Luckily the only time I'm away from my main rig, I have one of my 2 laptops with me, so I don't think I'd ever have a reason to ssh, but that's pretty cool :)10:29
powertool08and since I have 4 programs I always have running, i can start them all, detach them and close my terminal windows so i don't have to minimize them while i don't work in them10:30
nelsonstreetkewl K3B works pretty good as a burner10:31
Woody86powertool08 -  well that's pretty cool. Is there any way to get files off your home computer? That might be something I may need one day10:31
powertool08Woody86: yes, you can use scp, i haven't quite mastered that one yet, i tried to copy a file from my school account back here but it couldn't find the directory on the school computer10:32
Woody86powertool08 -  is that a program?10:32
powertool08Woody86: but its basically scp user1@host1:file1 user2@host2:file210:32
powertool08Woody86: yes, it probably has a gui frontend as well10:33
powertool08Woody86: and I think at least one has to have a ssh server and the other can get away with just the client10:34
Woody86powertool08 -  what's an ssh server?10:35
powertool08Woody86: secure shell, its like telnet but encrypted10:35
powertool08Woody86: so basically its remote login but you only get a command prompt10:36
Woody86powertool08 -  ah, and I need a server for it? I can't just go from someone else's home network to my home network?10:37
powertool08Woody86: it can also do x forwarding to do graphical stuff but i'm not sure how it works with a windows computer10:37
Woody86powertool08 -  oh, and I found secpanel, which is a gui for ssh and scp10:37
powertool08Woody86: well if you run an ssh server on your home box, then you can go to your friends house and log in to yours either with the ssh user@host command from linux or with putty from windows10:38
powertool08Woody86: but its also a nice open doorway for hackers if improperly configured so if you look into it I'd suggest publickey authentication with a passphrase on your private key file, ssh v2 only, no root logins, no keyboard interactive logins10:39
powertool08Woody86: and if you know you'll only use it at certain places you can tell it to only allow certain ip's, but i left mine open because i never know where i'll be when i decide to use it, oh, and i don't run it on the default port of 22 either10:40
Woody86powertool08 -  so is this the same process for scp? or is it different?10:41
powertool08changing the port helps alot with protecting against automated scans/attacks10:41
powertool08Woody86: i'm not sure... I set up ssh before I found scp so it might be required10:42
Woody86powertool08 -  hmm... well thanks for the tips :D I'm going to have to do a little research on this10:42
powertool08Woody86: I'm thinking you have to have the ssh server to do scp10:43
powertool08Woody86: looks like there's a program out there called scponly which doesn't allow the shell access10:46
powertool08Woody86: There is also sftp but I don't know anything about that10:46
Woody86powertool08 -  so I could get files, and not have the extra security risk of the ssh being open?10:47
ZmAYhello, how do i install .package file10:47
powertool08Woody86: possibly, however the link right below it is scponly: Multiple vulnerabilities — Gentoo Linux Documentation so you might want to check that out first before implementing10:48
powertool08ZmAY: what program is it?10:48
ZmAYamsn10:48
Woody86powertool08 -  haha, always a good sign ;)10:48
ZmAYamsn-0.97.2-1.tcl85.x86.package10:49
powertool08Woody86: although ssh has had tons of vulnerabilities over the years as will any heavy used remote login program10:49
powertool08Woody86: they are discovered, patched, upgraded, etc so as long as you keep up with it its safe10:50
Woody86powertool08 -  very true10:50
powertool08ZmAY: try sudo dpkg -i /path/to/file.package10:51
ZmAYdpkg-deb: `amsn-0.97.2-1.tcl85.x86.package' is not a debian format archive10:52
ZmAYdpkg: error processing amsn-0.97.2-1.tcl85.x86.package (--install):10:52
powertool08ZmAY: you know there is amsn in the repo's I think its the same think you're wanting sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude install amsn10:54
assa9er__i want to install a messanger soft can someone tell me tthe est one?10:54
ZmAYon this old pc i use 6.06, how do i update repos, i mean, if i install it that way it installs old version10:55
powertool08ZmAY: if not since dpkg didn't handle it you'd probably have to use a program called alien, I don't know how to use it just that it exists10:55
powertool08assa9er__: pidgin is a good multi-protocol messenger, it does aim, msn, yahoo, irc10:56
powertool08ZmAY: well you can update your /etc/apt/sources.list to pull from hardy repo's, but if you do sudo aptitude dist-upgrade it will try to upgrade you to feisty, then gutsy, then hardy so be mindful not to do that unless you really want to10:57
assa9er__tthanks powertoo10810:57
powertool08assa9er__: np10:57
ZmAYnoop, i just want repo's to be upgraded, is that possible, without upgrading distro10:59
powertool08ZmAY: if thats not an option i'd look into building from source if you're up to it, or trying to find a .deb file which will install with the dpkg -i10:59
powertool08ZmAY: yes, if you edit the /etc/apt/sources.list it will give you programs from the newest repo's, its just dangerous because it opens the possibility to do the full distro upgrade11:00
ZmAYok thanks, i won't risk11:00
powertool08Woody86: it was nice talking to you, I'm off to bed for real this time11:02
* powertool08 sleeps (I really mean it! its 5 am)11:03
assa9er__take car powertoo10811:03
assa9er__you were so helpful11:05
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microchipv420how do i change the kdm theme?11:19
Gord0nRTFM11:20
daleslxthat is the same q i have been asking for 20y11:20
microchipv420so....?11:20
daleslxto me kde is the most hardes to theme11:21
microchipv420the only thing that has stumped me is the kdm theme11:21
daleslxyep and no one will give you a strat awnser ether11:22
microchipv420i see11:22
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microchipv420daleslx: hey, check this out11:23
microchipv420http://www.kde-look.org/help/index.php?type=4011:23
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daleslxi will play around with that see if it works . cool11:26
ratchet4620how do i install "mjpegtools" ?11:28
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Woody86powertool08 -  ok, nice talking to you, too :D take care11:30
Guest76690HI11:30
Woody86Hi, what's up?11:30
blip-hi all,  where can i get a list of all non-standard repositories so i can add them to sources file... e.g. Medibuntu, Opera, and others ?11:31
Guest76690have msn?11:31
blip-the ones mentioned here for medibuntu don't work    http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Hardy#sources.list11:31
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faileasblip-: why not get it straight from the medibuntu site?11:51
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assa9er__how can i decomresse a .bz2 file12:08
assa9er__?12:08
roganassa9er: http://home.nyc.rr.com/computertaijutsu/tarball.html12:09
blip-faileas: there aren't worldwide mirrors for medibuntu repos like there is for the kubuntu repos, am i right ?    At least there is no mention on mirrors on their website12:10
faileasblip-: no, there's one mirror12:10
roganassa9er: use winrar12:10
blip-faileas: ok thanks12:10
faileasassa9er__: bzip2/bunzip from cli, ark will do it if you have the bzip2 package12:11
ActionParsnip!ubottu12:17
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romeroaloha everybody12:20
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wouterello12:22
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ActionParsnipyo yo yo12:25
Wind67...12:31
ActionParsnip...12:32
faileas_ _ _12:33
JP-sNL3O_o12:34
ActionParsnip***12:34
assa9er__where can i get the unziped files12:34
ActionParsnipassa9er__: unziped files of what?12:35
JP-sNL3assa9er__: probably where the .bz2 is too12:35
assa9er__.bz2 file12:35
JP-sNL3yeah12:36
JP-sNL3and uuh, assa9er__... get/learn mc   (midnight commander): with that file manager you 'step into' a compressed file as if it was a directory and that makes easy copying files from it12:38
Wind67bye12:39
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manishHas any body ever used Lotus notes 8 Beta.. There is no information available on google regarding how to setup gmail IMAP and Yahoo (Ymail) IMAP ... Can some body please help me with that12:39
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ActionParsnipmanish: i think you can run it via wine12:45
ActionParsnipmanish: you can also use the web interface12:45
manishIt is available as a linux package12:45
manishand i have installed the deb files12:45
ActionParsnipmanish: sudo apt-get install wine12:45
szalonnadoes anybody know whats up with freedestop.org?12:45
manishnow i just want to setup my Gmail and Yahoo (Ymail) Imap accounts12:46
ActionParsnipmanish: thunderbird is good at google12:46
manishActionParsnip: I know, I just want to see other available options as you suggested the other day... I dont want to use thinderbord ... It gives too  many problems on my PC12:47
ActionParsnipkmail, pine12:47
ActionParsnipevolution12:48
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ActionParsnipthere millions12:48
manishK mail does not work when i connect internet from my REliance data card nither does ne KDE app except Konversation and Kopete12:48
manishonly thunderbird and other thirdparty clients.12:49
manishActionParsnip: So now you see why i was trying to install zimbra and now Lotus notes12:50
ActionParsnipmanish: lotus note i dont believe is free12:50
manishActionparsnip: I have donwloaded it from the ibm site. its 8 beta is free for ubuntu ... and other linux distros like redhat and suse12:51
manishyou just need to register on the ibm site12:51
manishActionParsnip: so how do i configure gmail Imap on it . i have entered the basic settings and now its showing " Server settings not correct or unavailable"12:53
manishit did not get connected even once12:53
ActionParsnipmanish: then go to the accounts menu and check settings12:55
manishActionParsnip: I have put all the settings according to different help sections and my knowledge but the same reply... Is there any help section where i could ask this or any link you can think of ...?12:56
ActionParsnipmanish: what are you trying to set up specifically12:58
manishgmail with IMAP12:59
ActionParsnipmanish: in what client?12:59
manishLotus notes13:00
manishIBM Lotus notes13:00
manish8.0 beta13:00
manishthats what it says13:00
manishActionParsnip: did you get it ???13:02
ActionParsnipjust websearching13:02
ActionParsnipmanish: google dont use standard pop and smtp ports you know13:03
manishfor imap we need to use port 993 instead of regular 995 port13:04
kosmofieldHi, is it possible to access a encrypted partition (dm-crypt) with only a live-cd ? :/13:04
ActionParsnip!encryptfs13:04
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about encryptfs13:04
ActionParsnip!find encr13:04
manishi have put that in place and the other settings also seem to be correct but still the prob is not rectified13:04
ubottuFound: ghostscript, pidgin-encryption, libopencryptoki-dev, libopencryptoki0, opencryptoki (and 1 others)13:04
ActionParsnipmanish: http://uts.fiu.edu/Email/inotesfaq1.htm13:05
ActionParsnipmanish: thats all i got13:06
ActionParsnipmanish: id have a look at the ports google uses, i think they are quirky13:06
ActionParsnipmanish: plus you may need some ssl encryptioon for traffic either way13:06
manishi have enabled that too .. and thanks for your time. if i get a workaround i will post it on my blog at www.jackofallmarketing.wordpress.com13:07
manishthat way you will know it too...13:08
manishthanks again and bye13:08
giolatalpaciao a tutti13:09
giolatalpasono nuovo del canale e di kubuntu13:10
giolatalpaspero di fare presto amicizia13:10
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faileas!it13:10
ubottuVai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (click col tasto destro sul nome del canale per entrare)13:10
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blip-hi, i don't know what happened I just restarted my system and is presented with a text login.   I can run openbox,.   but KDE was somehow uninstalled... i reinstalled kdebase-bin.   what happened ?  How can i start KDE ?   thanks13:51
blip-kubuntu 8.0413:52
blip-i spent the last 3 days customizing it... i really don't want to reinstall if possible13:52
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aotianlongany body use `sshpass`14:17
aotianlongwhy sshpass cost a lot of cpu.14:17
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GaMbi_DKI get keyboard delays when my system has been on for 3-6 hours ~(with no real reason - app wise) and wont go away untill I reboot...Now I discovered that if I unplug the keyboard from my front USB port and plug it in the back the problem goes away without rebooting. so I figured that the problem lies in my front USB port... is this fixable? my cord isnt long enough to be plugged in the back of my puter15:02
beckerhi fellow unixers....i am having some trouble....i resized my vista partition (merged two partitions using gparted) im now unable to boot vista ....am currently using kubuntu ...however NEED my vist system back ....can someone give me a few ideas on how to resore my vista please?15:04
martin_GaMbi_DK: you'd be better off getting a usb extension cord, or check if the connector in the motherboard is properly seated15:05
GaMbi_DKmartin_,  I dont need an extension,, I need my front USB to work :) and yes.. it is properly seated.. never had this problem on XP.. also found a few others on google with same problem (no fix is found thought)15:09
martin_GaMbi_DK: did you try using the other front usb port?15:11
JackTopwhat channel for kubuntu 8.10rc ?15:20
trappist#ubuntu+115:20
martin_witch package is easier to install . RPM .deb or tar.gz15:22
roganWhat do I need to do to get Amarok to play m4a format and properly id id3v2 tags?15:28
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eagles0513875!multimedia | rogan15:37
ubotturogan: Ubuntu 7.04 installs multimedia codecs automatically. For older versions of Ubuntu, or if you can't use the automatic installer, see https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - For multimedia applications, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications15:37
roganwell my problem ubottu is some m4a play but others will not play and there tags are not read... so I have about 2000 songs that just show a title .. when you go to play that song it reads an error and randomly changes the title of that song to some random name (diferent each time)15:39
pnutbrainhi there, i'm quite new to kubuntu. i have a rather annoying problem. i use kubuntu 8.10 and i use the intel 3945ABG wireless card. knetworkmanager says wireless is "activated" i guess that means connected, but i have still no internet.. is this a known problem, with a known solution?15:39
pnutbraintried to use google, but nothing i found proved effective15:39
faileas... heh15:39
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eagles0513875!vpn15:50
ubottuFrom more information on vpn please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Gaming_VPN_Using_PPTPD15:50
eagles0513875hey15:51
eagles0513875has anyone setup vpn wiht this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Gaming_VPN_Using_PPTPD and been successful15:54
jose__hi15:55
jose__I have problem with my wireless network15:57
martin_hi i just installed amsn from adept but i cant find it in the Kmenu15:57
jose__I have problem with my wireless network I can't connect15:58
eagles0513875martin_: dump amsn and use kopete15:58
gm04030276martin_ try using alt+F2 and typing amsn. It sometimes takes a bit of time to appear in the menu15:58
gm04030276martin_: or pidgen! Kopete won't keep connection for me but pidgen does! Is pidgen the kde4 one?15:59
martin_ok thx15:59
jose__I again ask for the password15:59
gm04030276jose__: your wireless connection is asking you for a password?16:00
jose__yes16:00
faileaser pidgin has nothing to do with KDE4 i think its GTK based >_>16:00
jose__<gm04030276>  yes16:00
martin_gm04030276: I don't like pigden and kopete feel weird so i didnt try it in KDE416:00
eagles0513875martin_: kopete actually grows on u16:01
eagles0513875martin_: amsn lacks the development at this point in time16:01
eagles0513875if someone could improve it then i might consider it16:02
martin_eagles0513875: at least it lets me send offline messages and receive them16:02
faileasmartin_: as a stopgap try launching it from the console16:02
martin_witch is one thing pigden wont let me do16:03
eagles0513875martin_: it should be under internet or do as faileas said above16:03
martin_faileas: i got it, did know about the alt-F2 thing16:03
eagles0513875any vpn experts on here16:06
amerigo__!paste16:14
ubottupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)16:14
eagles0513875amerigo__: ?16:14
gm04030276failes: oh right...ok...well i like it cause it works!16:18
jameswf-homehas anyone expierienced a double plazma deal in their top right corner on kde416:24
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eagles0513875jameswf-home: there is one but thats normal both top right and bottom right16:25
jameswf-homeI have 2 overlapping top right16:26
jameswf-homeany idea of a process name?16:26
eagles0513875jameswf-home: no i dont16:26
eagles0513875jameswf-home: u on hardy remix or hardy wiht 3.5 and 4 installed with16:26
eagles0513875or intrepid16:27
jameswf-homehardw with kde4 in parallel to kde 3.516:27
eagles0513875jameswf-home: cant help ya im like that as well 4 parallel with 3.5 but i dont have that issue16:31
marcioafternoon guys...I'm an absolute beginner with dual boot problems, among a few, hehehe. anyone available to help?16:33
Tm_T!helpme16:33
ubottuAvoid your questions being followed by a trail of "Please, help me", "Can nobody help me?", "I really need this!", and so on. This just contributes to making the channel unreadable. If you are not answered, ask again later; but see also !repeat and !patience16:33
Tm_Tor, just ask16:33
marciotxks16:33
faileasmarcio: be more specific ;p16:34
marciowasnt able to find windows on grub yesterday and cyrex helped me on that16:34
marciobut now i find it and when I click on it  grub returns   BOOTMGR MISSING16:35
marciothis is a tishiba a215 amd 64 with kubuntu amd64 and winxp16:37
marciotoshiba16:37
eagles0513875marcio: try run grub-install16:38
eagles0513875!grub-install16:38
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about grub-install16:38
eagles0513875!grub16:38
ubottuGRUB is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - GRUB how-tos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto16:38
eagles0513875marcio: click on first link restorgrub16:38
marciook...done...16:39
marciokonqueror openned a how to16:39
marciowill do the steps on it...  brb16:41
dineshhiiiiii16:43
dineshanyone there????16:43
dineshhellooooooooo16:44
dineshanyone want to chat with me??16:44
Wind67yes16:44
Wind67hello16:44
Wind67where is bryan ?16:44
dineshhellloooooooooooo16:44
Wind67hi16:44
dineshwind6716:44
dineshh r u??16:44
Wind67i am fine and you ?16:45
dineshme also fine16:45
dineshwhat is ur name?16:45
Wind67oguz16:45
dineshfrom where you are?16:45
eagles0513875Wind67: dinesh what is  both of yalls native languages16:46
dineshwhats your mean???16:47
dineshi can't understand16:47
mereandorhi! I have a freshly installed kubuntu 8.04 on a computer but it has a kernel version that does not ship a driver for my ethernet card (igb). so how can I update the kernel w/o network access?16:48
dineshhello to everyone??16:49
faileasmereandor: got another kubuntu box? then you can use aptoncd16:49
mereandorfaileas: no other kubuntu box :(16:50
DarthFrogeagles0513875: Best to use proper English when chatting with a non-native speaker of Englis. "Yall" is not proper English.  It's proper Southernese, though. :-)16:50
mereandorany other suggestions?16:51
faileasmereandor: or ubuntu...16:51
eagles0513875dinesh: what language is your first language16:51
eagles0513875ty for reminder DarthFrog16:51
dineshhindi16:51
Wind67ez16:51
mereandorfaileas: yeah that was included - only gentoo here ;)16:51
Wind67re16:51
dineshand then english16:52
Wind67<dinesh> from where you are? FRANCE16:52
dineshno16:52
jameswf-homewell ill be upgrading soon anyway main goal was to see if i could live with kde516:52
dineshindia16:52
eagles0513875Wind67: what language do u speak16:52
jameswf-home*kde416:52
Wind67<eagles0513875> Wind67: dinesh what is  both of yalls native languages French and turkish16:52
deftonelol16:52
faileasmereandor: owwie...16:52
eagles0513875Wind67: english here16:52
eagles0513875!OT16:52
ubottu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!16:52
dineshonly english16:52
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faileasmereandor: a little tricky then. which kernel?16:53
mereandorfaileas: is it possible to download the .deb-files manually16:53
Wind67[17:52] <eagles0513875> Wind67: english here <<< I know, i am free no ?16:53
eagles0513875Wind67: ?16:53
mereandorfaileas: currently 2.6.24-19-generic for x86_6416:53
Wind67what ?16:53
dineshany one know language "HINDI"16:53
faileasmereandor: no idea16:53
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dineshany one know language "HINDI"16:53
mereandorfaileas: thanks anyway for trying ;)16:54
GOTFrogcrap i cant remmeber my nickserve pass16:54
dineshi am a new user on this  ubuntu16:54
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dineshso plz help me.16:54
mereandorhow can I download .deb-files (from the official repos) manually to install them on another box?16:54
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faileas!help16:54
ubottuHi! I'm #kubuntu's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://tinyurl.com/5zfb6t - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots16:54
lovehelp16:54
faileaser...16:55
faileasthats not what its supposed to say ;p16:55
faileaslove: be more specific16:55
lovefailes; what is ur mean??16:55
eagles0513875love: give more details about what you need help with16:56
lovei want to make new friend16:56
loveany one there??16:56
loveto be my friend16:56
love?????16:56
nelsonstreetlove: this is not a chat channel only help with Kubuntu16:57
faileasmereandor: its... hard... if you know where it is EXACTLY you may be able to download it straight off the repos16:57
eagles0513875!ot | love16:57
ubottulove: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!16:57
lovereally16:57
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lovebut i don't know about this16:57
mereandorso there is no way to "browse" the repositories ?16:58
lovecan i get help here16:58
eagles0513875love: yes u can16:58
mereandoraren't they simple http mirrors?16:58
lovefor software instalation16:58
tallesajuda com kurumin ng16:58
eagles0513875yes just ask your question with details and if someone knows they will respond love16:58
faileasmereandor: they are. but you need to know where in the pool they are16:59
lovei want to know that how can i install a player16:59
nelsonstreetwhich player17:00
faileasmereandor: http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux/17:00
nelsonstreetname17:00
faileasi can't be arsed to go any deeper than this. also, you may need some dependancies as well. its gonna be a bit of a pain17:00
mereandorfaileas: I guessed as much - but thanks for the link17:01
lovevlc plzyer17:01
lovevlc player for ubuntu17:01
nelsonstreet!vlc17:02
love.tar.bz2 file17:02
ubottuAudio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Listen, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, Exaile, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine - See also !codecs17:02
loveya vlc17:02
faileaslove: open up a console and type in "sudo apt-get install vlc"17:02
mereandoris there a difference between .udeb and .deb files?17:02
GOTFrogqclove: just get it from adept17:03
faileasmereandor: http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2000/12/msg02118.html17:03
lovethere is an error17:03
lovecommand not found17:03
faileasenlightenment ;)17:03
GOTFrogqclove: no quotes17:04
lovequotes mean17:04
faileasGOTFrogqc: ... i didn't think of that17:04
faileasquotes mean i was quoting a command ;p17:04
lovesir i tell u that17:04
lovei m a user of window17:04
lovebut i instal ubuntu 1st time17:05
GOTFrogqclove: DO IT FROM THE ADEPT INSTALLER17:05
GOTFrogqclove: add/remove program in your kmenu17:05
lovewhere can i found this ADEPT INSTALER17:05
lovebut  how ??17:06
GOTFrogqcyou know that blue button lower left corner17:06
GOTFrogqcclick on it and look for add/remove program17:07
nelsonstreetbrb17:07
GOTFrogqcif you have KDE4 mouse over aplicatiion17:07
lovei found it17:08
lovebut now wat can i do17:08
GOTFrogqcnow in the search field type vlc17:08
eagles0513875any vpn experts in here17:09
eagles0513875or anyone experienced with vpn in linux17:09
enzo_finnaly i' m on irc17:09
enzo_finnaly17:09
enzo_:D I'm so happy17:09
GOTFrogqcnow it should apear in the squares under the search field, click on the box,  then click on aply changes lower right corner17:09
GOTFrogqcenzo_: lol17:10
Meeso_OShey17:10
Meeso_OSis there a installation guide17:10
melkarthttps://wiki.kubuntu.org/IntrepidIbex/RC/Kubuntu <--- this site states that the "beta" is the release candidate. can that be? where can i download the release candidate?17:10
Meeso_OSdo I just burn the ISO and boot it?17:10
enzo_thanks, yo does any body here make music with linux in general?17:10
lovebut a error is also occure17:11
melkartMeeso_OS https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation17:11
enzo_yo does any body here make music with linux in general?17:11
GOTFrogqclove: got it?17:11
loveSwitch to the 'synaptic' package manager to resolve this conflict.17:12
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GOTFrogqcclose adept17:12
Meeso_OSmelkart: thanks :)17:12
loveCannot install 'vlc'17:12
loveThis application conflicts with other installed software. To install 'vlc' the conflicting software must be removed first.17:12
loveSwitch to the 'synaptic' package manager to resolve this conflict.17:12
GOTFrogqcnow open kmenu and go in the system tab17:12
loveCannot install 'vlc'17:12
loveThis application conflicts with other installed software. To install 'vlc' the conflicting software must be removed first.17:13
loveSwitch to the 'synaptic' package manager to resolve this conflict.17:13
GOTFrogqc!paste love17:13
mereandorfaileas: it worked!17:13
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about paste love17:13
loveexcuse me sir17:13
faileaslove: i think posting that once is enough17:13
lovewhat is this kmenu17:13
faileasmereandor: yay.17:13
GOTFrogqcthe blue button17:13
jeroen2help, we connected the kubuntu hardy PC to the flat screen TV with s-video -- when X/KDE is not yet started, it works, but we have a black screen when KDE is started!17:13
lovebut there is no blue bttone17:14
lovebutton17:14
faileasmereandor: just curious, any other deps/17:14
deftoneeagles u there?17:14
enzo_anyone using lmms here?17:14
GOTFrogqclove: lower left corner17:14
Meeso_OS!!!!> To download this bot, please visit http://www.ybbot.com.17:15
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)17:15
Meeso_OSoops17:15
lovehello sir17:16
Wind67hello17:16
Wind67love you are dinash17:16
Wind67?17:16
Wind67you are arab ?17:16
deftonenewbie question here........when i open up konsole it has a default of a huge window....how can i make it default to open a smaller window?17:16
loveyes17:16
lovenot dinash17:16
lovedinesh17:16
lovei am indian17:17
faileasdeftone: try settings -> size17:17
Wind67ok sorry love17:17
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loveits ok17:17
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faileasthough personally i recommend taking a look @ yakuake17:17
enzo_any one working with multimedia here?17:17
lovehow can i install vlc on ubuntu17:18
faileaslove: are you on ubuntu or kubuntu?17:18
deftonelove: adept installer17:18
enzo_never used vlc17:18
lovebut why???17:18
faileasdeftone: did that work?17:19
loveubuntu17:19
deftoneno size under settings17:19
love8.0417:19
faileaslove: wrong channel then. try #kubuntu17:19
faileaslove: wrong channel then. try #ubuntu even17:19
jeroen2help, we connected the kubuntu hardy PC to the flat screen TV with s-video -- when X/KDE is not yet started, it works, but we have a black screen when KDE is started!17:19
lovewhat its mean #ubuntu17:19
lovewhere i try it17:20
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faileasdeftone: mine had it between scema and history17:20
dandhi17:22
dandi got a problem with kopete on kde 3.5.1017:22
Wind67hi17:22
dandit doesn't connect to msn17:22
dandi found lot of people with the same problem onthe forums17:22
dandbut no solution17:23
deftonefaileas: i'm not 8.10 and there's not option there....weird17:23
faileasdeftone: maybe they changed it with KDE4 >_>17:23
dandkopete versionis 0.12.717:24
eagles0513875!ipv6 | deftone17:24
ubottudeftone: To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv417:24
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Wind67...17:28
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dandhi, where can i find the offline mode option in konqueror, if any?17:55
dandit seems it's set up, since it cannot browse the web17:55
Lynx-O!dragonplayer17:55
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about dragonplayer17:55
Lynx-Oanyone here know about dragonplayer17:56
eagles0513875!info dragonplayer | Lynx-O18:03
ubottulynx-o: dragonplayer (source: dragonplayer): Simple KDE 4 video player. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0.1-0ubuntu2 (hardy), package size 481 kB, installed size 1332 kB18:03
Lynx-Oeagles0513875: so why can't I get it in adept...18:03
pat_Does anyone have any experience using the mythtv-frontend install from the package manager?18:04
eagles0513875Lynx-O: r u on kde 3.5.1018:04
Lynx-Ogood question.18:04
eagles0513875Lynx-O: once u answer that question we will go from there18:04
Lynx-OandLinux Beta 1 (04/21/2008) lol which is a Kubuntu distro don't know which though it doesn't say and I don't know where to look.18:05
Lynx-Osays gusty18:06
Lynx-Othat's all I know.18:06
eagles0513875Lynx-O: time for major upgrade18:06
eagles0513875latest release is hardy18:06
eagles0513875and on 30th october intrepid18:07
Lynx-Onice....18:07
eagles0513875Lynx-O: there might be in the repos for gutsy kde4 in there18:07
Lynx-OI don't know18:07
Lynx-OI'm ganna try updating my distro with adept18:08
eagles0513875!upgrading18:08
ubottuFor upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes18:08
Lynx-Osee if it crashes my andlinux.18:08
eagles0513875Lynx-O: you could always save the time18:08
Lynx-Oand?18:08
eagles0513875Lynx-O: download hardy remix that has kde4 already and do a clean install18:08
Lynx-OI'm running andlinux inside of windows.18:09
eagles0513875Lynx-O: what is andlinux18:09
Lynx-Owww.andlinux.org18:09
Lynx-OI like kde programs but wine won't play ffxi.18:09
Lynx-Owhich I play in most of my spare time.18:10
eagles0513875Lynx-O: they have wine version 1.0118:10
eagles0513875Lynx-O: if ur duel booting i would get rid of linux partition thats there and use it for kubuntu18:10
eagles0513875unless ur using gutsy wiht wubi18:10
Lynx-Olook at andlinux.org18:11
Lynx-Othere is no partition18:11
Lynx-Olol its inside a fat32.18:11
eagles0513875ewwwwwwww18:11
Lynx-Owell in a folder on a fat3218:11
Lynx-Olol18:11
eagles0513875Lynx-O: thats like what kubuntu has known as wubi18:11
eagles0513875!wubi | Lynx-O18:12
ubottuLynx-O: Wubi is an Ubuntu installer for Windows users that allows you to install and uninstall Ubuntu like a Windows application, in a simple and safe way. http://wubi-installer.org/support.php for troubleshooting. Please file bugs at http://launchpad.net/wubi/+filebug.18:12
Lynx-OI know that18:12
eagles0513875i never got wubi to work right18:12
Lynx-Obut ffxi won't run properly with wine.18:12
eagles0513875Lynx-O: i would try latest version of wine18:15
Lynx-OI did18:16
dand'++18:16
GaMbi_DKwhat unreal tournament is the coolest ? (that can run on linux)18:16
Lynx-Omy server computer runs hardy18:16
eagles0513875!ot | GaMbi_DK18:16
ubottuGaMbi_DK: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!18:17
Lynx-OI use it for my documents18:18
jerome_hi hall18:19
jerome_je cherche le salon franais18:19
jerome_français pardon, pouvez vous me donner le lien18:19
jerome_merci d'avance18:19
genii!fr | jerome_18:19
ubottujerome_: Ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr18:19
jerome_thanks18:20
nemanjahi everyone... i have a little stupid question, i've just installed kubuntu kde4 and i dont have a volume icon in the systray... what package should i install ?18:33
geniinemanja: They may be able to properly assist you in the channel #kubuntu-kde418:38
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thefishwhat is kubuntu's desktop search?18:56
giolatalpaciao a tutti19:01
istihzathefish:Strigi...19:03
istihzaciao, come stai?19:04
thefishthanks istihza, and decent interface for it? i see i have strigiclient19:05
batti5anybody kow abou c++?19:06
batti5know about c++19:06
batti5i followed a c++ traning, i do every thing it sais, but it would-ent complie19:07
batti5can anybody help19:08
istihzathefish: Actually I am used to using slocate for searching tasks... You might wish to check http://strigi.sourceforge.net/ for information on Strigi. Hope it helps19:09
thefishcool, thanks istihza19:09
digitalpsykowow dis new kde4 is so purty19:10
batti5whare can i find a actual c++ training, for free?19:11
istihzabatti5, I am not a c++ programmer, but maybe if you tell us how you are trying to compile we can help...19:11
axel_Konversation/ KMail seems that it has emptied my whole IMAP inbox. Are these E-Mails really lost or are they stored somewhere but aren't displayed?19:14
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wolfjbHello, I'm starting to develop an application for myself and was trying to setup kdevelop. I thought to get the kdeapi docs installed, and so installed kdelibs5-doc which, I thought, would actually give me documentation - but it doesn't is there a package that I can install for the kde api docs (especially that I could import into kdevelop?)19:40
wolfjbI've tried techbase.kde.org, but it seems to assume that you have downloaded the source for both kde and qt and have setup specific users, etc. I'd just like to use the packages that come with kubuntu19:41
JohnFluxwolfjb: link?19:41
wolfjbJohnFlux: http://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Set_up_KDE_4_for_development#KDevelop19:42
JohnFluxwolfjb: i'll have a look, but one way is to simply go to  kde:kapplication    etc in konqueror19:44
axel_wolfjb: Thank you for your effort but I didn't do that. I Just use the compiled Kontact-/ QT-Packages that come with Kubuntu.19:45
JohnFluxwolfjb: hmm, kdelibs5-doc  contains nothing!19:45
JohnFluxwolfjb: it's a useless package19:45
wolfjbJohnFlux: yep19:46
JohnFluxwolfjb: might be worth filing a bug19:46
wolfjbJohnFlux: ok19:46
JohnFluxwolfjb: I think that means that the doxygen documentation isn't there then19:46
JohnFluxwolfjb: you could try 'kassistant'  (comes with kdevelop iirc)19:47
JohnFluxwolfjb: but anyway most people just use the website :-)19:47
JohnFluxwolfjb: just do   alt+f2 and type   kde:klineedit  into19:48
JohnFluxwolfjb: just do   alt+f2 and type   kde:klineedit19:48
wolfjbJohnFlux: I could just use the website, but thought it would be nice to have in kdevelop19:48
emilihousewhat is the program to extract file.rar19:48
JohnFluxemilihouse: command line wise, there's  unrar19:48
JohnFluxemilihouse: apt-get install unrar19:48
JohnFluxemilihouse: then:  unrar x file.rar19:49
JohnFluxemilihouse: there's probably a gui way to do it too19:49
wolfjbJohnFlux: neither kassistant nor klineedit work, tried from the console, which often suggests packages to install for missing pgms, but not this time19:49
JohnFluxwolfjb: if you go to konqueror and type:    kde:klineedit    does that work?19:50
emilihouseok I understand19:50
emilihousethank you19:50
Colonel_PanicI'm having a damn hell ass of a time repartitioning this hard drive19:50
wolfjbJohnFlux: yep that works. that is kinda cool19:50
JohnFluxwolfjb: klineedit is just a random kde class19:51
JohnFluxwolfjb: kde:kapplication  etc19:51
JohnFluxwolfjb: are you sure you actually tried what I said? :)19:51
JohnFluxwolfjb: press  alt+f2  and type kde:klineedit19:51
wolfjbJohnFlux: Ah, didn't do the kde: part, I just typed the klineedit... my ba19:51
wolfjbs/ba/bad19:51
JohnFluxah okay :)19:51
JohnFluxwolfjb: also you can do  qt:qlineedit   for the qt docs :)19:52
wolfjbJohnFlux: cool, thanks for the tips19:52
JohnFluxwolfjb: to be honest, you'll probably be reading the qt docs a lot more than the kde ones anyway19:52
xicohi ppl19:52
wolfjbJohnFlux: now, I just have to learn kde/qt again - haven't done anything with it since kde219:53
JohnFluxRiddell: as wolfjb found out, kdelibs5-doc    is pretty much an empty package.  presumably something went wrong when building it19:53
wolfjbJohnFlux: I thought the kde api was the way to go for cross platform issues ?19:53
xicobye19:54
JohnFluxwolfjb: it's nothing to do with cross platform19:55
JohnFluxwolfjb: there's a few classes that you should use the kde versions of, but mostly it's just a few differences19:55
JohnFluxwolfjb: use kapplication instead of qapplication, etc.  but anyway, 95% of your code will be with qt classes :)19:56
wolfjbJohnFlux: alrighty, thanks for the info19:57
laceroplease...someone help me with atheros ar5005 driver...19:57
RiddellJohnFlux: yes that looks broken20:00
wolfjbJohnFlux: Riddell: I'd file a bug, but I'm not sure how to do it, I don't see anything on the FAQ or in the community & support section to indicate where I should go from the kubuntu.org website20:02
JannoTT!8.1020:03
ubottuAlpha Software: Intrepid Ibex is the code name for K/ubuntu 8.10, due October 30th 2008 - #ubuntu+1 for discussion. Kubuntu Intrepid will have KDE 4 as the default Desktop Environment - see  https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuIntrepidVersion | Warning lots of breaking software between now and October!20:03
wolfjbwait, found bugsquad on the wiki20:03
Riddellwolfjb: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kde4libs/+filebug20:04
JannoTTThere is no 8.10 cd download?20:06
giraoubuntu portugues alguem sabe20:08
PhilRod!pt20:08
ubottuPor favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.20:08
giraoTanks20:08
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Guest70138boas20:12
Guest70138anyone portuguese?20:13
DarthFrog!pt20:13
ubottuPor favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.20:13
Guest70138#ubuntu-pt20:14
DarthFrogGuest70138: /join #ubuntu-pt20:14
wolfjbJohnFlux: Riddell: bug #288298 for kdelibs5-doc20:15
Riddellthanks wolfjb20:15
wolfjbRiddell: np20:15
brunohelp20:15
brunoi need help20:15
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wolfjbbruno: you need to ask your question to get help20:16
Guest1228i wanna install some apps in my ubuntu20:16
Guest1228this is bruno20:16
Guest1228like google earth20:16
Guest1228where can i get help in portuguese?20:16
wolfjb!pt20:17
ubottuPor favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.20:17
wolfjbGuest1228: you can probably use synaptic to find googleearth and install it20:17
wolfjbGuest1228: or you could use adept (the kde package tool) or you could use apt-get from the command line20:19
Guest1228are u there?20:21
wolfjbGuest1228: if you need portuguese, try /join #ubuntu-br or /join #ubuntu-pt20:21
Guest1228i'm on the channel20:22
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* nelsonstreet yawns20:29
blip-is there any way to open the Manager Repositories without running Adept manager ?   I don't like Adept Manager at all, i'm using Synaptic instead20:32
blip-thus i want to uninstall it along with Adept notifier20:32
posiyanshello20:33
posiyansтоесть привет20:34
nelsonstreetposiyans: Engish only please in this channel20:36
nelsonstreet!ru20:37
ubottuПожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke20:37
posiyans!ru20:42
ubottuПожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke20:42
posiyansи как туда перейти20:42
LordCrchi20:48
LordCrci installed some package updates and did a reboot and now i cant get kde to work with vnc4server...20:48
LordCrcif run "startkde" from within the vnc session, it just kills the vnc session20:48
LordCrclog file mentions "XIO fatal IO error (resource temporarily unavailable)"20:51
LordCrcah20:58
LordCrcnote to self... kde Autostart goes for vnc too20:59
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sourcemakerwhy question is off-topic... but is there a channel for java developers? #java does not work21:09
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Guest49999Bonjour ! J'aurais besoin d'aide, quelqu'un peut-il m'aider ?21:11
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axel_Kontact/ KMail seems that it has emptied my whole IMAP inbox. Are these E-Mails really lost or are they stored somewhere but aren't displayed?21:14
arun_hiiii everyone21:16
arun_is kbuntu 8.10 out21:16
barbhello21:18
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barb__french ?21:19
the_darkside_986What is the name of packages for Amarok mp3 playback?21:20
the_darkside_986I don't have any mp3s here to trigger the package prompt so I need to install it manually.21:21
the_darkside_986(The radio streams do not trigger it)21:21
the_darkside_986Is Kubuntu ever going to put the Kubuntu logo in its default KDE setup?21:24
glaucohello!21:40
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jerome_arf quelqu'un peut me donner le lien pour le salon français21:48
jerome_je suis désolé mais pas moyen de le paramétrer correctement21:49
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jerome_il y a pas grande discution ici, personne n'a de probleme visiblement21:50
deftonehow can i make my windows catch on fire when i close them? i checked the box in the settings but nothing happens21:51
jerome_merci trappist21:51
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microchipv420heys guys, i need some serious help getting my girlfriend's wifi card working on her lappy, i installed 8.04 last night, everything is perfect except for her card21:59
crimsunmicrochipv420: more specifically?22:02
microchipv420i cannot get the wifi card enabled, it isnt recognized by the OS22:04
microchipv420it acts as if it isnt there22:04
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vote_4_Obama!wifi22:10
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ubottuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs22:11
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deitarionMy brother's freshly-installed computer has an RTL8111/8186 onboard NIC and, according to Google results, I have to build and install the driver. However, for some reason, my Hardy setup builds a .ko which is incompatible with his... and I can't build on his without downloading the kernel headers... which I can't do because the NIC isn't working.22:30
deitarionSolution?22:30
vonkleistdeitarion, for some reason, the modules format for 2.6.x kernel is .ko22:31
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deitarionvonkleist: You must be misunderstanding me. Both computers run Hardy. One needs a NIC driver. The other builds an incompatible one and I can't build on the one that needs the driver because it can't download the dependencies. Solution22:31
deitarionI'm assuming the incompatibility stems from kernel upgrades which were pushed out since the Kubuntu Hardy install CD was finalized.22:32
brian_I need to remove all options from the shutdown menu other than Logoff for a group of users22:33
deitarionIs there a way to make apt-get generate a list of required packages I can manually copy over from another computer using SneakerNet?22:34
dekkonghello can anyone help me with elisa media center?22:34
dekkonghow can I get elisa to locate files that are on a different partition?22:34
dekkongthe default search path for videos is /home/video22:35
vonkleistdeitarion, can't get why getting a .ko module isn't compatible with hardy22:36
vonkleistbut, yes22:36
deitarionvonkleist: Apparently it depends on symbols which were added to the kernel since the version distributed on the install CD.22:37
vonkleistif they have a different kernel version, it will be incompatible22:37
vonkleistbut it's not because of the .ko format, but because of being a different kernel version22:37
deitarionI *KNOW*.22:37
vonkleistmay be you can boot up to the same kernel version on the other PC and try to compile that22:38
deitarionI use Gentoo every day. All I need to know is how to make apt-get not fight me!22:38
deitarionvonkleist: My Kubuntu system doesn't have that kernel version anymore.22:38
vonkleistdeitarion, it's an ugly solution, but what if you install a virtual machine with the same Kubuntu version from your brother's computer and compile from it?22:40
deitarionvonkleist: That'd take FAR too long.22:40
deitarionIt'd be quicker to run upstairs and down alternating between checking what apt-get is trying to retrieve and manually copying it with a thumbdrive!22:40
deitarionAha! I finally thought to use SneakerNet OR "Sneaker Net" in a google search and I found what I was looking for.22:42
deitarion--print-uris22:42
waynewardive been running kubuntu  64 on a amd 3000 with kde 4  its seems a bit slow on games using wine I have a 256 nvidia and a gig of ram any ideas why it might be a bit laggy22:44
Mixed432wayneward, try gnome, that is the main reason I am giving up on KDE, kde is a resource hog, and forget about compiz@!22:45
waynewardyes ive disabled compiz22:45
waynewardit was fine on  kde 3.5.9 im sure it was better22:45
waynewardim thinking ill install ice wm and log into that to play games that might be a solution22:53
waynewardor go back to kde 3.5.1022:53
waynewardanyone else having slow performance with games on kde 422:53
dekkonghello can anyone help me with elisa media center?22:55
dekkonghow can I get elisa to locate files that are on a different partition?22:55
snikkerhi, i've got a problem with minicom. it don't accept keyboard input... can you help me?22:59
deftonedoes kubuntu have a repo for songbird?23:00
ballzee_i just installed ubuntu 8.04 and i can go to google and serch but cant go past it and apt-get just hangs up anyone know why ?23:07
TimSI get a notice some of my packages have been kept back when I apt-get upgrade, how do I resolve this?23:08
deftonedekkong: how did you get Elisa Media Center to work?23:09
TimSdeftone: My elisa worked straight after an install.23:10
TimSHave you got the repo for it?23:10
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deftonemine only shows a black screen...did u install elisa from Adept Installer?23:11
deftonei installed it from Adept Installer23:11
waynewardi have read some forms and they wrecon installng ATI graphics card will be faster than the nvidia with kde 4?23:11
conaniushi all23:11
Guest41517What's the proper way to switch to the nVidia binary drivers if a network driver issue (now solved) prevented restricted-manager from being run on login?23:11
waynewardis it worth a try i have a spare!..23:11
TimSdekkong: You could link them with a link23:12
TimSdeftone: Yeah23:12
conaniusIm having real issues with connecting to my wireless using Ubuntu. I'm using the laptop I have put it on now using a wired connection and it works fine. The wifi card is detected, can scan for networks etc... but the 'switch to network' is greyed out23:12
TimSHave you got the correct graphics drivers23:12
conaniuscan someone give me a hand sorting this out please? :)23:12
deftonewhat version of ubuntu do you have conanius?23:13
conaniusubuntu ultimate 1.8 I think23:13
conaniusmight be 1.923:13
deftonehmmm...didn't know ubuntu had an ultimate23:13
conaniusive just got all the updates (184!!) so its bang up to date23:13
TimSI use a different wireless manager, begins with W but can't remeber it23:13
deftoneis that a distro someone fluffed up or something?23:14
TimSdeftone: Its a distro, not official23:14
conaniusdeftone:  - have a search for it, its got all sorts on it23:14
deftonei'm having trouble with my elisa23:14
conaniusTim - I can try adding in the details using the wireless manager23:14
deftonethe graphics are all messed up and it looks like crap23:14
conaniusbut its having none of it23:14
oobeconanius, get familar with wireless-tools cmd line apps and /etc/network/interfaces23:14
oobeconanius, man interfaces23:14
oobeconanius, man iwconfig23:14
oobeconanius, man iwlist23:15
oobegui apps will never be as stable23:15
conaniussorry oobe... but you're speaking a different language for me im afraid23:15
conaniusim just using this to try and get into it all, maybe in a few months Ill know what you just said23:15
conaniusprogress peaked for me at cd ..23:15
conanius:P23:15
conaniusor dir /w23:15
oobeok fair enough23:15
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TimSGui always worked for me23:16
deftonewow that ultimate looks hot!23:16
oobei was just saying that there are command line tools available that kick arse compared to gui tools23:16
deftone1.9 is the latest?23:16
TimSdeftone: try wicd23:16
ardchoilleHow do I replace a word in the kate editor with a word and a new line? I tried replace "test" with "test\n" but that just replaced test with the text "test\n".23:16
oobeand that you can find out more by reading the man pages23:16
TimS!wicd23:17
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about wicd23:17
ardchoilleThis worked in gedit so I thought it would work in kate too but it doesn't23:17
TimS!info wicd23:17
ubottuPackage wicd does not exist in hardy23:17
TimSdoh23:17
deftonewhat is wicd?23:18
TimSoobe, the cli tools are good if you know all the commands, but most GUI apps use them to connect anyway, so it saves you from learning the commands.23:18
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TimShttp://wicd.sourceforge.net/23:18
oobeoh ok23:18
oobei have never tried wicd23:19
oobebut i have heard good things23:19
TimShttp://code.google.com/p/wicd-qt/23:19
TimSQt frotend :D23:19
oobei use interfaces23:19
oobeor write a small script23:19
deftonei got my wireless going...someone else asked that question....lol23:19
TimSHmm23:19
TimSAh, cornelius lefty23:19
TimSOh23:20
TimSnope23:20
TimSconanius: Try wicd23:20
deftoneconanius asked ...lol23:20
deftonei'm trying to get elisa to work properly23:20
deftonei installed the version that's in the Adept Installer but it's messed up23:20
TimSAh23:20
TimSDo you have the right drivers23:20
deftonewhat drivers do i need?23:21
deftonedid know i needed drivers to run elisa23:21
deftone*didn't23:21
TimSGraphics drivers I mean23:21
TimSI think it needs tehm23:21
deftonei have Intel GM96523:22
TimSOh23:22
TimSHmm,23:22
TimSyou may not need any wactually23:22
TimSElisa is nothing special tbh :p23:22
TimSXBMC and Boxee are much better23:23
basyhi, all i have new optical mouse, it works on 2000hz, i have the slowest setting (KDE system settings) and it is still too fast.. is there any other way how to setup slower mouse sensitivity in KDE ?23:24
conaniustim - just installed it23:26
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TimSbasy: try man xset23:27
TimSLook for the mouse section.23:27
vitis there a plugin missing in kubuntu's krita that keeps it from reading/saving .psd files?23:28
deftonehey TimS, does ubuntu have a repo for xbmc?23:28
TimSI think I have it23:29
TimSLet me take a look23:29
conaniusnice one tim, it worked first time23:29
TimSAwesome23:29
conaniusxbmc... xbox media centre?23:29
deftoneno23:30
TimSyes23:30
TimSI think they might have changed the name officialy now23:30
TimShttp://ppa.launchpad.net/team-xbmc-hardy/ubuntu hardy main23:30
TimSThats what I have23:30
Meeso_OS:D23:30
Meeso_OSI installed kubuntu via wubi :D23:31
TimSdeb http://ppa.launchpad.net/team-xbmc-hardy/ubuntu hardy main23:31
TimSeven23:31
Meeso_OS?23:31
TimSNot for you :p23:32
TimSNever tried Wubi23:32
Meeso_OSheh23:32
conaniustim, has anyone written something for ubuntu for it to act as a media extender, ala a 360?23:32
Meeso_OSI tried the regular install23:32
Meeso_OSit didnt work23:33
Meeso_OSI mean23:33
Meeso_OSit did23:33
Meeso_OSbut when I rebooted23:33
TimSconanius: Yes. ushare23:33
Meeso_OSthe little bar at the bottom wasnt there23:33
Meeso_OS:/23:33
TimSIt takes a bit of setting up23:33
TimSNot sure I remeber how23:33
conaniusno. fucking. way. I cant get flash as I have ubuntu 64.23:34
TimSconanius: Once installed I think you run ushare -x (for xbox mode) then the ip address of the network, but I remeber theres a config file for it, where you can set the network and device,23:34
TimSconanius: Watch the language. And you should be able to23:34
conaniusoops, sorry23:35
Meeso_OShey, if I got a PCI wireless card to work on ubuntu, will it work on kubuntu?23:35
conaniusaccording to the adobe site, they only do it for x8623:35
Meeso_OSheres the card http://www.msicomputer.com/product/p_spec.asp?model=PC60G&class=com23:35
TimShttp://www.daryl.mu/2008/01/12/howto-install-flash-9-on-ubuntu-gutsy-gibbon-64-bit/23:35
TimSor this one may be better http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/install-flash-10-ubuntu-linux-64bit.html23:36
TimSIt does it for you if you issue two commands.23:36
TimSMeeso_OS: It should do, yes23:36
Meeso_OSheh23:36
TimSUbuntu and Kubuntu have the same base, its just bits of the front end that are changed.23:36
Meeso_OSok23:37
vitis there a plugin missing in kubuntu's krita that keeps it from reading/saving .psd files? I talked to the krita folks and they said for me to pester kubuntu about it23:37
TimSconanius: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-632428.html23:39
TimSThats about ushare23:39
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TimSAnd explains how to set it up.23:39
Meeso_OSif a low end comp can run windows XP (I'm spreading the kubuntu love around the house :D) can it run kubuntu?23:39
TimSvit: I cant seem to be able to open them23:40
TimSLet met install the plugins package and see23:40
vitTimS: me either; option isn't there, but everything I read says it's possible with GraphicsMagic23:40
conaniusTim, ive just downloaded ushare, and im clearly being a bit of an idiot23:41
conaniusgone to the command line and done ushare -x23:41
conaniusbut it says...23:41
conaniusconanius@conanius-laptop:~$ ushare23:41
conaniusError: no content directory to be shared.23:41
TimSvit: Odd. The plugins did nothing to help. I am using the kde3 version, do the krita guys say its only kde4?23:42
TimSconanius: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-632428.html23:42
vitTimS: same thing here with kde4, but they didn't say which version and I didn't tell them what I was using23:42
TimSThey explain how to set up the config file for it, this shows you how to put the default interface and directory23:43
TimSvit: Oh, that sucks.23:43
Meeso_OSif a low end comp can run windows XP (I'm spreading the kubuntu love around the house :D) can it run kubuntu?23:43
TimSMeeso_OS: Generally, yes.23:43
Meeso_OS:D23:43
Meeso_OSok23:43
vitso TimS would it be simplest for me to file a bug?23:44
TimSPossibly, but it depends what file you were editing, some might not be editable I guess23:44
TimSMeeso_OS: Try a live cd to see if its compatible23:44
TimSIt may have issues with old hardware23:44
Meeso_OSok23:45
TimSvit: It appears it has pdf from 200623:45
basyTimS: thanks for that xset tool help23:45
Meeso_OSwell23:45
Meeso_OSits an office PC23:45
Meeso_OSit can run word smoothly lol23:45
Meeso_OS>_>23:45
TimSbasy: You may need to put the command in your .session file as otherwise you will have to issue it each time you start up23:46
conaniusahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.... this isnt doing what I was expecting tim23:46
conaniusI meant the other way round!23:46
TimSOhhhh!23:46
conaniusas in, have an interface on the ubuntu PC so I can see the stuff on my media centre :D23:46
dandwhat is the meaning of this message?23:46
TimSWheres your media center? Different PC?23:46
dandconfigure: error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check23:46
dandSee `config.log' for more details.23:46
dandwhile i'm running ./configure23:47
conaniusyeah, its on the windows vista ultimate machine downstairs23:47
TimSOkay23:47
TimSI *think* xbmc can do that,23:47
powertool08dand: Looks like your c++ libraries went insane :P23:48
dandyeah but what should i do?23:48
powertool08dand: do you have gcc installed?23:50
powertool08dand: or maybe you need build-essential http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=30559323:52
TimSI was about to suggest checking for build-essential23:53
dandyes gcc is installed23:54
dandwhat are build essentials?23:56
powertool08dand: sudo aptitude install build-essential23:56
powertool08dand: its all the tools need to compile stuff23:57

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