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Mike804Tascam US428 - need assistance installing - ALSA has instruction that I can make work - please msg me03:35
Hobbseelool: um, i'm not sure sorry03:36
Mike804anyone home03:40
Mike804anyone home03:57
HobbseeMike804: you might try #ubuntu for support, as the /topic says04:02
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seb128pitti: bug #287482, can you do what is required to get those on the list of things to approve after the candidate? ;-)08:44
ubottuLaunchpad bug 287482 in gstreamer0.10 "Sync latest GStreamer packages" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/28748208:44
pittiseb128: "wishlist" doesn't exactly sound RC? :-)08:44
pittiseb128: if you think it's really important, please nominate it for intrepid and milestone it for 8.1008:45
pittithat's the list we'll really look at08:45
seb128pitti: I put wishlist randomly, those are bug fix versions with very limited changes08:45
seb128pitti: we have candidate versions for the next stable and those are newer candidates08:45
seb128ok08:45
pittibut so far we'll really only change stuff which fixes RC bugs which cannot sensibly be fixed with SRUs08:45
seb128pitti: gst-plugins-bad0.10 is universe so maybe you can look at it already today?08:46
pittiseb128: yes, that's possible; please subscribe me08:46
seb128pitti: done08:47
seb128bah, the new user switch applet is not able to change correctly pidgin status08:55
seb128that's a bit weird to have a menu by default which doesn't work when using the standard ubuntu im client08:56
seb128mvo: should your menu entry bug be a duplicate of bug #2195?08:57
ubottuLaunchpad bug 2195 in gnome-panel "new menu item not listed if .desktop unpacked before the TryExec binary" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/219508:57
mvoseb128: I think so08:59
seb128mvo: ok, thanks09:00
mvo2195? woah09:01
seb128mvo: ;-)09:01
huatsmorning everyone09:05
huatso/ seb128 and mvo09:05
huats:)09:05
slomopitti: and the gstreamer0.10 / gst-plugins-base0.10 updates only have (together) 3 patches for fixing regressions over older versions that are affecting quite some users ;)09:05
* mvo waves to huats and slomo09:06
huats;)09:07
pittislomo: that sounds good then09:07
pittislomo: I wasn't sure about how much they actually change09:07
* pitti hugs slomo, good morning09:07
slomopitti: the bugs are linked from the sync bug btw... gst-plugins-bad only contains (compared to the current version) a regression fix for reverse mpeg playback and one or two cosmetic changes so that should be fine too09:08
seb128pitti: could you have a look to bug #287715? is the sessions list normal?09:15
ubottuLaunchpad bug 287715 in gnome-session "Trying to shut down or restart falsely suggests others are logged in" [Low,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/28771509:15
didrockslut :)09:18
pittiseb128: /dev/cron??? nice one09:25
seb128mpt: did you do any change to your cron?09:26
pittiseb128: indeed /var/log/auth.log shows that cron does use PAM sessions09:26
pittiso I guess that actually registers a CK session as well (libpam-ck-connector)09:26
mptseb128, no, but I have lolbackup installed which uses a cron job09:27
pittiah, that probably uses long cron sessions09:30
pittimpt, seb128: bug updated09:32
seb128pitti: thanks09:33
mptwhoo09:35
mptthanks pitti09:35
pittiwell, it's not fixed yet :)09:35
pittiseb128: FYI: check /var/log/ConsoleKit/history, there you see the cron sessions09:36
pittiI guess most users don't notice it, because with mlocate the cron.daily is fast enough09:36
seb128pitti: ok, good to know for debugging09:36
pittiseb128: libglib2.0-data is really just empty for us, right? can  I upload a new glib which drops the recommends?09:38
seb128pitti: we have glib2.0 in sync on debian, is that worth the ubuntu change?09:38
pittihm, right, that should be kept09:39
seb128pitti: in fact we don't because we updated before debian and I didn't want to bypass the freeze by syncing then09:39
pittiseb128: then we have to promote it09:39
seb128pitti: but otherwise we do09:39
pittiseb128: for intrepid being in sync or not is pretty irrelevant, but I mean "in general"09:39
pittiSize: 95809:39
seb128right09:39
seb128usually we are in sync09:39
pittiseb128: well, I guess we can just promote it in jaunty09:39
seb128so better to promote it09:39
seb128right09:40
pittiah, fortunately it doesn't even have copyright and changelog09:40
pittiok, let's promote it and forget about it09:40
pittithanks09:40
seb128urg, gksu has 98 open bugs09:45
mpthttp://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=55757210:24
seb128mpt: what about it?10:27
mptI'm just amused by it10:28
seb128not sure what is triggering this one for you but g-s-t didn't change this cycle and other users don't seem to get the issue10:29
seb128I doubt you'll get a reply though, nobody is actively working on this software10:30
mptneat10:30
Laneymvo: gnome-terminal patch is ready for your review. Note that this is pretty much the same as what we added in 2.24.0-0ubuntu2, except that some of the changes made it into the stable branch (so the patch is smaller).10:33
LaneyI cannot reproduce the crash bug any more (and I could with 2.24.{0,1}), so that seems fixed.10:34
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mvoLaney: excellent, what is the url of your branch?10:38
Laneymvo: I requested your review on LP, but it's lp:~laney/gnome-terminal/tabpatch10:39
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mvoLaney: thanks for the patch it looks good, I will test/upload after lunch11:59
Laneythanks mvo11:59
seb128pitti: ^12:02
seb128pitti: mvo is on it already12:02
pittiseb128: ah, nice12:02
huatsjames_w: are you around ?12:48
james_whey huats12:48
james_whow are you?12:48
huatshey james_w how are you ?12:49
james_wgood thanks12:49
huatssiwtching to private to avoid to flood here :)12:49
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james_wanyone know if/where xchat ships sounds?13:05
james_wand whether they moved between hardy and Intrepid?13:05
james_wif they indeed exist13:05
james_wbug 28804513:06
ubottuLaunchpad bug 288045 in xchat "on upgrade to Intrepid, xchat sound locations are broken and cause pop-up spam" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/28804513:06
seb128james_w: no, I'm using xchat-gnome13:06
asacseb128: do you know since when GTK_CHECK macros are deprecated in favour of G_TYPE ?13:06
* asac thinks it must have been long long ago13:06
asacs/know/remember out of head/13:06
seb128asac: no but likely for a while13:07
seb128ie some years13:07
asacseb128: do you remember if gtk deprecated them right when G_TYPE was introduced? (which i think would be easier to find out)13:08
asacanyway if you dont know, dont look this up ;)13:08
seb128asac: most likely, but that should still be available if you don't use the disable deprecated options13:08
seb128asac: what is the issue exactly?13:09
asacseb128: epiphany svn tree fails because of the DISABLE DEPECATED stuff when build with --enable-maintainer-mode13:09
asacas mozilla still uses those macros13:09
asaci submitted a patch for that upstream ... just wanted to provide data to show how old this stuff is13:09
asacseb128: upstream == mozilla gecko embed api13:10
seb128not new but I've numbers13:10
seb128no numbers13:10
asacyeah13:10
asacits ok. i think they will accept that without hard facts ;)13:10
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Laneymvo: I forgot to commit a change, don't test just yet13:45
mvoLaney: oh? ok, let me know when there is more. I just got negative testing feedback, but I think I won't be able to test it properly myself until in 1-2h anyway13:56
LaneyI missed a file in the patch13:56
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Laneymvo: Pushed14:00
LaneyThe new bindings work now, always a bonus.14:00
mvoLaney: thanks - is that patch based on upstream work or is it fixes from you ? if the later, have you pushed it upstream already :) ?14:02
Laneymvo: It's from upstream, I just forgot to apply the diff to one of the files.14:02
mvook, thanks14:03
Laneymvo: The updated patch is ready for merging at your leisure :)14:15
Laney(thanks for your time btw)14:15
tedgseb128: Does the updated package fix bug 272218 for you?14:27
ubottuLaunchpad bug 272218 in fast-user-switch-applet "Changing status don't work with pidgin" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/27221814:27
seb128tedg: what updated package?14:28
seb128ah, debdiff on the bug14:28
seb128tedg: will try in a bit14:28
tedgseb128: Cool, thanks.14:29
seb128tedg: you don't get the issue?14:29
tedgseb128: I didn't, turned out I had saved statuses for everything.  When I deleted them I did.14:29
seb128the debdiff seems to make sense14:30
tedgI think that the comment accounts for my bytes in the diff than the fix ;)14:32
tedgs/my/more/14:32
seb128tedg: the update works correctly indeed, I'll sponsor the upload14:44
Laneymvo: You didn't merge rev 18 from my branch16:51
mvoLaney: hm, I commited r16 some minutes ago16:54
mvoLaney: right, but there seems to be something new in it now16:55
Laneymvo: Maybe you checked out in the small window before I pushed 18 ;)16:55
mvoI guess so16:56
Laney(about 6 minutes)16:56
Laneyah well, no worries16:56
mvoLaney: hm, while I think your patch is fine I'm slightly worried about the new strings (new relative to 2.24.0-0ububuntu1). I see that pitti sponsored the upload on 13 Oct that added them initially. I guess its ok because of langpacks etc. but its not ideal :/17:16
Laneymvo: The translations appear in the generated schema, or do you mean something else? I don't really know how that works.17:26
LaneyBut ember did work up a patch which doesn't add new strings, so we could just use that instead.17:26
LaneyHowever I won't be able to do it to night so I hope someone else can sub it in.17:26
ember /* -1 because we can't add the Tabs entries on gnome-2-24 b/c of string freeze */17:35
emberthe patch only adds the <locale> tag with no text to not break string freeze17:35
mvoLaney: I think I would prefer not adding new strings if possible17:35
mvoI guess its a good compromise, the people who need it will find it via gconf17:36
* mvo needs to leave for a bit but will read scrollback17:36
emberwell i kinda agree we can do it without introducing new strings17:43
Jazzvamvo, ping19:43
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mvoJazzva: pong20:54
Jazzvamvo, I had problems with pushing updated xul extensions' data to my app-install-data-ubuntu branch. If it's not too late, could you apply diff I prepared to ubuntu-core-devs' branch directly?20:55
JazzvaI attached it to the bug 28727020:55
ubottuLaunchpad bug 287270 in app-install-data-ubuntu "Please update a list of XUL extensions in app-install-data-ubuntu" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/28727020:55
mvoJazzva: I can do that and ask for it tomorrow, not sure it gets approval by the release managers though21:01
mvoJazzva: but I hope we will be ok21:01
Jazzvamvo, yeah... I know it's a bit late.21:02
Jazzvamvo, thanks :)21:02
mvothank you!21:02
Jazzvanp :)21:02
seb128tedg: there?21:08
tedgseb128: yes.21:08
seb128tedg: I sponsored your fusa update21:09
seb128tedg: I looked at the bugs list too, there is lot of untriaged bugs which are trivial to triage, could you try to have a look over those and comment?21:09
seb128tedg: is there is one requestion to use available rather than online as a label and one about asking confirmation for the actions for example, could you reply to say if those are design decisions?21:10
seb128requestion -> requesting21:10
tedgseb128: Yes, I haven't looked through them recently.21:11
tedgThanks for sponsoring the update.21:11
seb128tedg: bug triage might be boring but if you don't read bugs you don't know about issues users are having when running your software21:11
seb128tedg: you're welcome for the update ;-)21:12
tedgseb128: Yes.  I realize.21:12
didrocksenough for today, good night everyone :)22:06
seb128lool: isn't bug #288337 a wm issue rather?22:39
ubottuLaunchpad bug 288337 in gnome-keyring ""popunder" popup under hildon when creating the keyring" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/28833722:39
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