[18:51] <DoruHush> hello
[18:52] <dinda> ping jjesse
[18:52] <dinda> ping nixternal
[18:52] <DoruHush> I have a question regarding the Ubuntu Training Course translation into Romanian
[18:53] <dinda> DoruHush:  trying to find you someone who might be able to answer your question
[18:53] <DoruHush> we manage to translate the course
[18:53] <dinda> jenda: ping
[18:54] <DoruHush> ﻿dinda: I hope they will read sometime today what I write, I'm not in a hurry
[18:55] <dinda> I'll see if I can get nxvl over here too
[18:56] <dinda> go ahead and post your question and someone will read it and respond - hopefully :)
[18:57] <DoruHush> yes
[18:57] <DoruHush> So, ﻿we manage to translate the course but we have problems with
[18:58] <DoruHush> with the conversion from xml to pdf
[18:58] <DoruHush> with the diachritics
[18:59] <jjesse> ping dinda
[18:59] <DoruHush> it can't convert ș Ș ț Ț , they are not recognized
[19:00] <DoruHush> if I use cedilla instead of comma-below alls well
[19:00] <DoruHush> ﻿jjesse: hello
[19:00] <DoruHush> dinda ping you for me
[19:00] <DoruHush> if you can help with my problem
[19:01] <dinda> nxvl is on his way over too
[19:01] <nxvl> i'm here actually
[19:01] <nxvl> :D
[19:01] <dinda> nxvl - meet DoruHush
[19:01] <DoruHush> hello ﻿nxvl:
[19:01] <nxvl> hi!
[19:02] <dinda> can you tell your problem, one more time please, DoruHush?
[19:02] <nxvl> so, what am i good for?
[19:02] <DoruHush> I try, is hard
[19:02] <DoruHush> ﻿I have a question regarding the Ubuntu Training Course translation into Romanian
[19:02] <DoruHush> ﻿we manage to translate the course
[19:03] <DoruHush> ﻿but we have problems with
[19:03] <DoruHush> ﻿the conversion from xml to pdf
[19:03] <DoruHush> ﻿with the diachritics
[19:03] <DoruHush> ﻿it can't convert ș Ș ț Ț , they are not recognized
[19:03] <DoruHush> ﻿if I use cedilla instead of comma-below alls well
[19:03] <nxvl> you can actually use rosseta (launchpad translation module) for transtaling
[19:03] <nxvl> i'm sure it will manage to build correct .po files
[19:03] <nxvl> oh!
[19:03] <nxvl> right
[19:04] <nxvl> your problem is with the system building those
[19:04] <nxvl> i'm not sure if xml supports that tough
[19:04] <DoruHush> I use the script from the bzr repo of the course
[19:04] <nxvl> it may have a notation like html's acute;
[19:04] <DoruHush> no, I have po files
[19:04] <nxvl> my repo
[19:04] <nxvl> ?
[19:04] <DoruHush> maded with xml2po
[19:04] <nxvl> heh
[19:05] <nxvl> yeah, that's mine
[19:05] <DoruHush> and worked very well
[19:05] <DoruHush> no problem there
[19:05] <nxvl> i'm not sure about a solution, i'm more a developer than a translator, but yes that's an issue with unicode
[19:05] <DoruHush> xml to pdf is the problem
[19:06] <nxvl> in spanish we use UTF-8, that works in Romanian too?
[19:06] <nxvl> DoruHush: oh, ok, the problem is with the encoding
[19:06] <DoruHush> should I set an environment variable somwere?
[19:06] <nxvl> maybe
[19:06] <nxvl> how is that you are making the xml2pdf
[19:06] <DoruHush> utf-8 is the only that work
[19:08] <nxvl> mmm
[19:08] <DoruHush> if have to use utf-8 what should I do?
[19:09] <DoruHush> I made the xml2pdf with the sacript from the bzr repo of the course
[19:09] <DoruHush> script*
[19:10] <DoruHush> I use the makefile (make or make with options)
[19:11] <nxvl> can i take a look at that script
[19:12] <DoruHush> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~canonical-training/ubuntu-desktop-course/ubuntu-desktop-course-beta/files
[19:12] <DoruHush> it is that one
[19:14] <nxvl> and how did you generate the xmls from the pot files?
[19:14] <nxvl> i'm sure there is a way to generate the .po's, then translate everything there
[19:15] <nxvl> and then build the pdf's from the original xml's and using the .po's too
[19:15] <nxvl> the problem is, how?
[19:15] <DoruHush> for each xml  file I made a pot file
[19:15] <DoruHush> after that I made a po file from pot
[19:16] <DoruHush> after that I made the translations
[19:16] <DoruHush> aftre that back to the xml
[19:16] <nxvl> and you shold stop there
[19:16] <nxvl> then run the makefile
[19:16] <nxvl> and everything should be done automagically
[19:17] <nxvl> that's the idea of the .po files
[19:17] <nxvl> now, how to make that happend
[19:17] <nxvl> i have no idea
[19:18] <DoruHush> I don't know how to use po file to make the pdf
[19:20] <DoruHush> the makefile only deals with xml files
[19:21] <DoruHush> I've made the pdf, and work well if I use cedilaa instead o coma-below
[19:21] <nxvl> yeah, i'm not sure how it works, really
[19:21] <nxvl> i hope i can help, but i have no idea
[19:21] <DoruHush> hehe
[19:22] <nxvl> with TeTeT we get into this problem too, but i never got the time to solve it
[19:22] <DoruHush> you said something about utf-8
[19:22] <nxvl> that's why we left this just here
[19:22] <nxvl> yup
[19:22] <nxvl> that encoding
[19:22] <DoruHush> how do I use them ?
[19:22] <nxvl> you might ask in -translation if there is such a channel
[19:23] <DoruHush> ok, thanks for all
[19:23] <nxvl> DoruHush: run this in a terminal please:
[19:23] <nxvl> echo $LANG
[19:23] <DoruHush> ro_RO.UTF-8
[19:24] <DoruHush> I read a lot (not understand much) about LaTex
[19:25] <DoruHush> and those characters are a really problem