[00:20] <asac> \o/ debian VM is working again
[00:22] <fta> there's no little joys in life, everything counts
[00:24] <asac> haha
[00:24] <asac> yeah
[00:24] <asac> probably the right attitude ;)
[00:24] <asac> well. i already had typed: rm -f $VBOXIMAGE
[00:24] <asac> but then decided to try one more time and won ;)
[00:30] <asac> ok done ;)
[00:30] <asac> enough debian for today
[00:41] <fta> asac, bzXXX_elminate_depreated_gtk_type_macros, strange wording
[00:43] <asac> fta: hehe
[00:43] <asac> fta: just saw that too ;)
[00:44] <asac> fixing
[00:44] <fta> did you buy the new macbook ? ;)
[00:44] <fta> http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/20/apples-new-macbook-is-mm-mm-goo/
[00:45] <asac> done
[00:45] <fta> look for the B key
[00:45] <asac> whats going on ;)
[00:45] <asac> i would understand wrong placement
[00:46] <asac> but forget one key?
[00:46] <asac> i mean the complete keyboard layout must be different than planned ;)
[00:46] <asac> not layout, but geometrical strucutre ;)
[00:46] <mconnor> there's two M's
[00:46] <asac> oh
[00:46] <mconnor> :P
[00:46] <asac> hehe
[00:46] <mconnor> I did that too
[00:46] <asac> good to know ;)
[00:48] <fta> asac, still a typo
[00:49] <fta> depreated
[00:51] <asac> done again ;)
[00:51] <fta> i'm sure you did it just to boost your karma ;)
[00:52] <asac> fta: without a LP:#XXXX? unlikely that i get any karma for that
[00:52] <fta> you will, each commit counts
[00:52] <asac> fta: havent seen that ;)
[00:53] <fta> except in +junk branches
[00:53] <asac> fta: attaching to bugs gives a bunch
[00:53] <asac> everything else is neglectable isnt it?
[00:53] <asac> fta: well. my karma currently increases by real work: bug mutt work
[00:54] <fta> http://paste.ubuntu.com/61276/
[00:55] <asac> fta: yeah. really. record the individual components please ;)
[00:55] <asac> that would be sooo cool
[00:55] <fta> yeah, next time i think about it
[00:55] <asac> hehe
[01:10] <[reed]> asac: file bugs upstream!
[01:35] <asac> [reed]: you might believe it or not, but I already had bug form open for that
[01:41] <asac> [reed]: done ;)
[01:41] <asac> fta: renamed one more time ;)
[01:53] <asac> http://launchpadlibrarian.net/18782552/ExtensionSummary.txt
[02:15] <asac> fta: http://people.ubuntu.com/~asac/tmp/1.9.1.corrupt.png
[09:35] <fta> asac, gfx.color_management.mode = 0 ?
[10:07] <asac> fta: yeah ;)
[10:07] <asac> i remember
[10:08] <asac> let me check
[10:08] <asac> fta: i had 1
[10:08] <asac> default (2) fixes it ... thanks ;)
[11:42] <gnomefreak> ill be back i need to get something done that i have been puting off for 3 weeks.
[11:48] <gnomefreak> asac: fta can we add support for current sunbird devel 1.0 so once 0.9 is done i can keep on top of 1.0 as well?
[11:59] <asac> gnomefreak: lets get 0.9 going. then we can focus on tracking trunk imo ;)
[11:59] <gnomefreak> works for me,
[13:21] <gnomefreak> rzr: connection issues?
[13:23] <rzr> it seems yes
[13:23] <rzr> i am at work
[13:23] <rzr> let me quit irc then
[13:24] <rzr> see you later
[13:30] <gnomefreak> no need to leave i was just asking :(
[13:31] <gnomefreak> anyone know spanish?
[13:32] <gnomefreak> bug 288267 needs translation
[13:32] <gnomefreak> bug 288067
[13:45] <asac> gnomefreak: we never ever want to translate bugs.
[13:45] <asac> its just not scalable to need a translator for bugs -> invalid
[13:45] <asac> its 99% sure that you wont be able to have a more or less decent conversation with anyone posting in their native language
[13:46] <asac> dropping a hint that if he translate stuff on his own he can open might be grateful though ;)
[13:46] <gnomefreak> asac: i asked him to translate it if not done in a day or 2 ill invalid
[13:48] <asac> gnomefreak: just go ahead and invalidate
[13:48] <asac> gnomefreak: he should reopen
[13:48] <asac> gnomefreak: bug triagers remembering to wait for translations doesnt scale
[13:48] <asac> you are more likely to forget
[13:48] <gnomefreak> true
[13:48] <asac> meaning you could handle more bugs when not needing to remember stuff
[13:50] <gnomefreak> thats invalid now
[13:50]  * gnomefreak cant find what im looking for :(
[14:07] <pecisk> asac: I reported bug for including Latvian FF3 translation into Intrepid Ibex as you told me, subscribed you and Arne
[14:09] <asac> thanks
[14:09] <gnomefreak> please tell me Arne isnt the dev from the script automatix
[14:24] <gnomefreak> asac: bug 284250 i changed from ff to n-m (for lack of better package)
[14:25] <asac> ok meeting over ;)
[14:28] <gnomefreak> did we hit firefox-2 EOL yet?
[14:33] <asac> gnomefreak: no ... december is last release
[14:36] <gnomefreak> yeah i saw
[14:42] <flacoste> hi, i have a question about Ubuntu firefox packaging
[14:42] <asac> flacoste: welcome
[14:42] <asac> ;)
[14:42] <asac> flacoste: what is the issue?
[14:43] <flacoste> is there a way to have a 'vanilla' profile?
[14:43] <asac> flacoste: what is a "vanilla" profile?
[14:43] <flacoste> i mean without the extensions in
[14:44] <asac> flacoste: which extension?
[14:44] <flacoste> my problem is with Winmill
[14:44] <flacoste> windmill
[14:44] <flacoste> it's a web functional test framework
[14:44] <flacoste> http://getwindmill.com
[14:44] <asac> flacoste: oh ... just to test?
[14:44] <flacoste> and it creates a new profile and starts firefox with it
[14:44] <flacoste> but if you have the adblocker package installed
[14:44] <asac> flacoste: you can either disable it in tools -> addons or start firefox with -safe-mode parameter
[14:44] <flacoste> it somehow gets it
[14:45] <flacoste> what does -safe-mode do exactly?
[14:45] <asac> flacoste: ok so adblocker is the problem?
[14:45] <flacoste> well, adblocker, but other tools might also
[14:45] <asac> flacoste: -safe-mode disables all extensions
[14:45] <asac> flacoste: go to tools -> addons and disable them individually ... doesnt that help?
[14:45] <asac> flacoste: or do you want a separate profile?
[14:45] <flacoste> it's all done automatically
[14:46] <flacoste> so -safe-mode migth work
[14:46] <flacoste> i'll report back if that doesn't do the trick
[14:46] <flacoste> thanks
[14:47] <asac> ok thanks
[14:51] <flacoste> asac: one more question
[14:53] <flacoste> windmill has a --firebug options which will install firefox in the new profile, i guess -safe-mode won't pick it right?
[14:54] <flacoste> it copies it to the profile extensions directory
[14:54] <flacoste> so the behaviour i'd like is that only extensions in the profile directory are available
[14:54] <flacoste> (not the ones in /usr/lib/firefox/extensions
[15:10] <asac> flacoste: well. that doesnt really work
[15:10] <asac> flacoste: global extensions are installed globally, meaning everywhere. there isnt really a mechanism to change that i think
[15:11] <asac> flacoste: what doesnt work?
[15:11] <flacoste> well, extensions screws up the tool :-/
[15:11] <flacoste> adblocker in particular
[15:11] <asac> flacoste: i mean when it creates a new profile for you and starts firefox with that you could just disable the extensions there
[15:11] <flacoste> no
[15:11] <flacoste> that's automatic
[15:11] <asac> and all should be fine
[15:12] <flacoste> windmill creates a temporary profile for the test run
[15:12] <flacoste> and you want to be able to run that automatically and continuously
[15:12] <flacoste> so disabling extensions manually on every run is not an option
[15:12] <flacoste> we should either leave a default vanilla firefox profile that windmill could use
[15:12] <asac> flacoste: there would be a hacky solution ;)
[15:13] <asac> flacoste: windmill could create fake extensions for all global extensions in the user profile with a max/min version in install.rdf that is incompatible
[15:13] <asac> e.g. maxVersion=0.0 minVersion=1.1
[15:14] <asac> if windmill creates those, the "testprofile" should have all global extensions disabled
[15:14] <asac> and windmill could still install firebug there
[15:37] <flacoste> that's really hard to do
[15:37] <flacoste> it means rewriting .rdf files for all extensions installed in ubuntu
[15:37] <flacoste> that kind of sucks
[15:58] <gnomefreak> asac: are you hacking today?
[16:00]  * gnomefreak thought of a solution for sunbird (just copy the lightning lines in rules and change lightning-* to calendar-*
[16:00] <gnomefreak> )*
[16:05] <asac> flacoste: well. its not that difficult, but yes its work
[16:12] <Jazzva> asac, for some reason  bzr still kept timeouting. Now I branched directly from ~ubuntu-core-dev's branch and applied the changes, which are being pushed. Let's hope it will work this time :/
[16:14] <asac> *sigh*
[16:14] <asac> Jazzva: ever asked on #launchpad?
[16:14] <asac> well ... not needed if its fixed now ;)
[16:14] <Jazzva> no, not really. I'll wait another 20-30 minutes to see if there is some progress.
[16:14] <Jazzva> fixed?
[16:14] <Jazzva> ah...
[16:14] <Jazzva> I'll see if it is :)
[17:24] <asac> fta: hmm ... there are complains that amd64 flash is broken for some
[17:24] <asac> fta: can you reproduce that? e.g. just grey area on youtube?
[17:44] <fta2> asac, i mostly use 32bit
[17:44] <asac> Jazzva: ^^ ?
[17:45] <fta2> no grey, except in greader from time to time
[17:45] <fta2> (in prism /w xul 1.9)
[17:49] <asac> that sucks
[17:49] <asac> when did that regress
[17:49] <asac> for me it works still though
[18:07] <flacoste> asac: the hack doesn't work, the profile still gets the extensions from the global place
[19:12] <Jazzva> asac, I use 32bit too, so I can't test it...
[19:14] <Jazzva> asac, it seems that bzr finished successfully this time. No error on page, but no revisions too. I'll see if it shows up. Would a complete diff help, in case I don't manage to push tonight?
[19:15] <fta> asac, as browser, i use exclusively 3.1 so i don't know.
[19:20] <Jazzva> asac, bug 287270, I attached the diff
[20:30] <Volans> Hi all! :)
[20:31] <Volans> Hi asac, sorry for my absence in the last weeks, I have started a new job and I'm really very busy at the moment...
[20:32] <Volans> I hope that the scripts I have done for the large scale maintenance of the extensions can be useful for you
[20:42] <RainCT> Hi
[20:43] <RainCT> dunno why I'm still asking but, nobody's coming to mozcamp this weekend, or?
[21:04] <Jazzva> asac, mvo said he will try to add changes to .desktop files tomorrow and to get an approval from the release admins.
[21:17] <fta> Jazzva, in your debdiff, please add LP: #id
[21:17] <Jazzva> gah... right :)
[21:17] <Jazzva> thanks, fta