[04:20] <macdunbar> hello
[04:21] <macdunbar> does anyone know of a good tutorial for using ubuntu server 8.04 as a replacement for a windows server?
[05:29] <juannicolas> Hi, can someone telme how to save iwconfig configuration?
[05:30] <juannicolas> in order to them be stared next time machines reboot
[06:46] <J-_> in /etc/network/interfaces would network and gateeway be the same IP?
[06:50] <tonyyarusso> no
[06:51] <tonyyarusso> A gateway has a host address, which is very different from a network address.
[06:51] <tonyyarusso> It's quite common for the gateway to be one higher than the network address, although there's no reason it has to be.
[06:59] <J-_> Is there anyway to find out my network and gateway with a command?
[07:08] <J-_> Would network in /etc/network/interfaces be the address of my router?
[07:24] <tonyyarusso> J-_: No, the address of the router is the gateway address.  The network address has to do with how it's subnetted, if it is.
[07:24] <tonyyarusso> If you can give actual numbers I can help.  You're looking for things that are set within your router's configuration, ultimately.
[07:29] <J-_> Yeah, I think I figured that part out :) Now I'm just looking for my afraid.org DNS entries on their site.
[07:37] <J-_> Will /etc/resolv.conf be a new file once I use nano to go into it on a new installation? It just created a new file.
[07:38] <tonyyarusso> it will if you save
[07:39] <J-_> Okay, it didn't say anything about creating a new file in the configuration tutorial.
[07:46] <J-_> Now, to see if this thing works.
[07:46]  * J-_ prays
[08:19] <J-_> http://pastebin.com/m3fbb79f0 Does that look right?
[08:19] <scuser> hi all, any help with this error http://paste.ubuntu.com/61404/ ?
[08:45] <scuser> hi all, I'm trying to execute the command "sudo vos create sc02.sc.bibalex.org /vicepa root.afs -localauth" but this error arouse "Could not get an Id for volume root.afs" any help ?
[08:47] <soren> J-_: No.
[08:48] <soren> J-_: You need numeric adresses for nameserver.
[08:48] <soren> s
[08:48] <soren> J-_: Nameservers are what you use to resolve hostnames to IP's, so specifying names would be a catch-22.
[08:49] <J-_> Does /etc/network/interfaces look alright, though?
[08:49] <J-_> Or, should I have gateway instead of network?
[08:50] <soren> J-_: It's a valid /etc/network/interfaces file.
[08:50] <soren> J-_: That's about all I can say.
[08:50] <soren> J-_: The numbers depend on your local configuration. It looks sane, but I can't say if it's correct.
[08:51] <J-_> okay
[08:52] <J-_> Thanks for the info anyway. I'll keep fooling around til I can get it right. :)
[08:52] <soren> scuser: I've never used AFS. Perhaps you could try in an AFS specific channel?
[08:52] <soren> scuser: There's an #openafs channel, apparantly.
[08:52] <soren> J-_: What's the problem?
[08:52] <scuser> soren: I'm trying now thanks for your time :)
[08:53] <soren> np
[08:53] <J-_> apache2: could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.1.1 for ServerName
[08:53] <J-_> I need to find out how to restart my network now
[08:54] <J-_> err network interfaces or whatever
[08:56] <blue-frog> J-_: it is not an error
[08:58] <J-_> hmm
[09:25] <scuser> hi all, any help with this error http://paste.ubuntu.com/61419/ ?
[09:45] <scuser> hi all, any help with this error "bos: failed to create new server instance ptserver of type 'simple' (entity already exists)"
[09:50] <kraut> moin
[09:53] <bn43> hi I'm trying to understand raid - Just picking brains
[09:53] <bn43> I've read that raid1 is full reduncy
[09:54] <bn43> but if your boot partition cannot fall under raid1
[09:54] <bn43> which means if one of the disks fails with the boot partitition, you cannot boot?
[09:54] <bn43> is that right?
[09:56] <bn43> anyone?
[10:00] <henkjan> bn43: http://users.piuha.net/martti/comp/ubuntu/en/raid.html
[10:01] <henkjan> After installation and the first reboot I installed grub also on the second disk's (/dev/sdb) master boot record (MBR). Without this the PC will not start if the first disk (/dev/sda) fails and is removed from the PC.
[10:04] <bn43> thank you
[10:04] <bn43> I will read up on thatr
[10:08] <mathiaz> soren: do I need to do something special to enable virtio block device support in intrepid?
[10:09] <mathiaz> soren: http://paste.ubuntu.com/61431/
[10:10] <mathiaz> soren: ^^ this is the error and the configuration of the host
[10:10] <mathiaz> soren: ^^ this is the error and the configuration of the guest
[10:16] <heno> nijaba: can you help out with some remaining server tests? esp. ESX
[10:17] <nijaba> heno: ESX server expired, so I think Omahn as gently offered his help
[10:17] <nijaba> s/as/has
[10:17] <heno> ok, thanks
[10:40] <soren> mathiaz: Can I see the rest of the XMl, please?
[10:43] <mathiaz> soren: http://paste.ubuntu.com/61449/
[10:45] <soren> mathiaz: That's strange. When did this start?
[10:45] <mathiaz> soren: hm - if I switch to ide, the guest fails to start with "Unsupported NIC: virtio"
[10:46] <mathiaz> soren: this is a brand new intrepid install
[10:46] <mathiaz> soren: the kernel version is 2.6.27.7.10
[10:47] <soren> mathiaz: What about kvm?
[10:47] <mathiaz> soren: 1:72+dfsg-1ubuntu6
[10:48] <soren> mathiaz: Could you try "kvm -drive file=/home/mathiaz/vm/tests_isos/intrepid-server-i386-default/vm/root1.qcow2,if=virtio,index=0" from a command line?
[10:52] <mathiaz> soren: hm - it starts - but I had to use the vnc option
[10:52] <mathiaz> soren: I don't know if it booted though
[10:57] <mathiaz> soren: ok - using the following command line http://paste.ubuntu.com/61452/, the guest is able to start
[10:58] <nnull> guys whats the min sys requirments for ubuntu server?
[11:00] <mathiaz> soren: http://paste.ubuntu.com/61457/ <- this is the qemu log when trying to start the guest from libvirt
[11:03] <mathiaz> soren: hm - why is it using qemu by default for the emulator rather then kvm?
[11:04] <mathiaz> soren: that's a difference between intrepid and hardy then.
[11:05] <mathiaz> soren: if you don't specify the emulator when defining the guest in libvirt, hardy defaults to kvm while intrepid defaults to qemu.
[11:06] <soren> mathiaz: Gah.. That sucks.
[11:07] <mathiaz> soren: I'll file a bug against libvirt
[11:10] <soren> mathiaz: Thanks.
[12:58] <scuser> hi all, any help with this error "fs: cell dynroot not in /etc/openafs/CellServDB" ?
[13:12] <soren> scuser: This reminds me of a conversation I had earlier today...
[13:12] <soren> 07:52:10 < soren> scuser: I've never used AFS. Perhaps you could try in an AFS specific channel?
[13:12] <soren> :)
[13:13] <soren> 07:52:43 < soren> scuser: There's an #openafs channel, apparantly.
[13:31] <sommer> morning all
[13:32] <zul> hi soren
[13:33] <zul> i mean sommer
[13:38] <jpugh> nnull: did you find what you need?
[14:13] <hylje> mm
[14:17] <hylje> apparently it doesn't really want to boot off network either
[14:29] <hylje> woah
[14:34] <mpt> soren, hi, when would be a good time to talk with you about virt-manager?
[14:37] <nijaba> mpt: -> #ubuntu-virt has a good list of listener
[14:37] <mpt> ah, thanks
[14:58] <hylje> gah installer hangs just after getting network config
[14:59] <hylje> may this be due to the NAT randomly deciding to not work?
[14:59] <wo0f> yo guys
[15:00] <hylje> ooh it just took a silly amount of time
[15:39] <Dib> Hello I just installed apache2 php5 libapache2-mod-php5 apache works good but when i goto test.php with phpinfo() it just downloades the php file.  any ideas?
[15:41] <ScottK> kirkland: Is there a way you can add man pages manually to manpages.ubuntu.com?
[15:42] <Dib> don't worry I think I found something lol good on help.ubuntu ^_^
[15:42] <hylje> Dib: does your apache config include the php config snippet?
[15:42] <ScottK> There is a but in the Intrepid Postfix package where a couple the man pages for some new scripts didn't make it into the binary.
[15:42] <Dib> hylje, I had a quick look but dident see any PHP related things
[15:43] <kirkland> ScottK: hmm
[15:43] <ScottK> kirkland: They're in the Postfix source package.  Could we add them to your repository so I can at least point to them in a bug?
[15:43] <hylje> well that may well be the problem :)
[15:43] <kirkland> ScottK: that server just mounts up a full Ubuntu mirror
[15:44] <Dib> lol yeah I restarted Apache and then it worked heheh
[15:44] <ScottK> kirkland: Source and binary?
[15:44] <kirkland> ScottK: it only looks at .deb files
[15:44] <ScottK> OK.
[15:44] <ScottK> It was a thought ...
[15:44] <kirkland> ScottK: I don't really have access to that machine, either
[15:44] <kirkland> ScottK: i change the code in bzr, then beg IS to pull my changes
[15:45] <Dib> can i use atp-get to install GDLib?
[15:45] <ScottK> kirkland: If you've got an idea how you might do it it'd be nice.  Otherwise I think I'm reduced to blogging man pages or something.
[15:46] <ScottK> kirkland: You can guilt lamont into doing since it's his bug.
[15:46] <lamont> ScottK: more likely he could guilt me into uploading postfix. :)
[15:46] <kirkland> ScottK: actually....
[15:46] <ScottK> lamont: I don't think the release team is going to take 'missing a couple of man pages' as an RC bug.
[15:47] <lamont> meh
[15:47] <kirkland> ScottK: as soon as the Jaunty archive opens, there will be a Jaunty section in manpages.ubuntu.com
[15:47] <ScottK> lamont: OTOH, if you've been holding onto a good one ...
[15:47] <lamont> just have to know where their ticklish spots are
[15:47] <ScottK> lamont: If you can convince them it'd be much appreciated.
[15:47] <kirkland> ScottK: if you sync the postfix package there, the pages will be available, albeit against a different version
[15:47] <ScottK> kirkland: True.
[15:48] <ScottK> We'll see.  I'll hope lamont can find the right leverage on -release for now.
[16:06] <nomoa> hi, is there a netboot image for ubuntu server 8.04?
[16:37] <mathiaz> Koon: ahh - just ran into bug 274365
[16:37] <mathiaz> Koon: I wasn't using the sun-java machine though
[16:37] <Koon> beh
[16:38] <mathiaz> Koon: http://paste.ubuntu.com/61563/
[16:39] <mathiaz> Koon: It supposed to be fixed...
[16:39] <Koon> argh.
[16:39] <mathiaz> Koon: let me investigate that
[16:39] <Koon> it's the tomcat6-(something) packages that call restart
[16:39] <Koon> they don't have an || true
[16:40] <mathiaz> Koon: correct
[16:41] <Koon> I forgot those. and the same is true for tomcat5.5.
[16:41]  * Koon grumbles
[16:41] <mathiaz> Koon: could this be bug 264489?
[16:43] <mathiaz> Koon: probably not
[16:43] <mathiaz> Koon: are you preparing a fix?
[16:43] <Koon> mathiaz: yeah, probably not
[16:44] <Koon> mathiaz: yes -- could you check why it failed to start in the forst place ?
[16:44] <Koon> first even
[16:44] <Dib> I'm trying to setup vsftpd so far I can connect to it from another computer and read files and login as my main user and upload.  But can't upload with anon.  I have created a user called ftp  with a home dir of /var/ww and ww group is ftp.  any ideas?
[16:44] <mathiaz> Koon: same issue as bug 274365
[16:45] <Koon> you said you weren't using sun jvm ?
[16:45] <mathiaz> Koon: default-jre-headless is setup before tomcat6-*
[16:45] <mathiaz> Koon: but openjdk-6-jre-headless is setup after tomcat6-*
[16:45] <mathiaz> Koon: first and last line of http://paste.ubuntu.com/61563/
[16:46] <Koon> mathiaz: it used to work without openjdk-6-jre-headless being configured
[16:47] <Koon> anyway, the workaround I put in is insufficient and should be fixed. In progress
[16:48] <mathiaz> Koon: using || true in the postinst is not enough?
[16:48] <Koon> I mean, putting it only on tomcat6.postinst ins not enough
[16:49] <Koon> hhhhmmm
[16:49] <mathiaz> Koon: ah ok - so you'll prepare a diff that will make -admin and -examples use || true?
[16:50] <Koon> that was my plan. Though I just discovered they shouldn't need to... Their postinst call "status" to doublecheck tomcat6 is really running
[16:50] <Koon> just a sec
[16:52] <Dib> whats a good small desktop enviroment for ubuntu-server?
[16:53] <Eeyore-Jr> e17
[16:53] <mathiaz> !servergui | Dib
[16:54]  * Koon hides from kirkland for writing up such a lousy "status" action
[16:55] <kirkland>  /etc/init.d/Koon restart
[16:55] <mathiaz>  Koon not found
[16:55] <Koon> /etc/init.d/Koon status -> FAIL
[16:58] <Dib> mathiaz, lol thanks. I think I'll give lxde a go, as I'm just messing around and I can allways remove ^_^
[17:02] <mathiaz> Koon: so what's your plan for this bug?
[17:02] <Koon> fixing status
[17:04] <Koon> mathiaz: posting the debdiff now, if you can have a look while I finish rebuild/testing it
[17:07]  * Koon wishes he would not be sick as a dog to be more efficient
[17:09] <mathiaz> Koon: which bug are you using?
[17:09] <mathiaz> Koon: it seems that a new bug should be filed
[17:09] <Koon> the same that got the release freeze exception
[17:09] <Koon> (or the old one reopened ?)
[17:10] <mathiaz> Koon: well - AFAICT it's a new bug
[17:11] <Koon> yes, will file a status returncode bug
[17:11] <mathiaz> Koon: related to bug 274365 though, but affecting other packages
[17:11]  * Koon curses his VM that choose the wrong day to freeze
[17:26] <Koon> mathiaz: the debdiff worksforme. invoke-rc.d is a little noisy when status returns nonzero though, in the future I should probably change those calls as well, but that's a more intrusive change that we'll do after release, I suppose
[17:27] <mathiaz> Koon: hm - you've changed the exit code from 1 to 3.
[17:28] <mathiaz> Koon: hm - scratch that
[17:28] <Koon> now that I tipped kirkland, I figured I should at least put the right return codes :)
[17:31] <Koon> mathiaz: i'll leave the thing to you, got to go now (probably to bed directly)
[17:32] <mathiaz> Koon: ok - have a nice loooonng night
[17:40] <mathiaz> dendrobates: ^^ new bug in tomcat6
[17:40] <mathiaz> dendrobates: I've milestoned for intrepid-8.10 - you may wanna look at it and change the importance/milestone
[17:50] <J-_> Man, for the life of me, can't get Hardy's /etc/network/interfaces or DNS to work proper. It was working in Dapper before I decided to do a clean install
[17:50] <J-_> :(
[17:57] <J-_> http://pastebin.com/m3fbb79f0 That's pretty much what I have. I'm not sure how to get /etc/resolv.conf working. My network doesn't get a static IP. It changes when my router restarts.
[17:57] <J-_> Not sure what DNS entries afraid.org uses
[17:58] <J-_> !lamp
[17:59] <J-_> I changed my DNS entries on the server, hasn't worked. I can't ping google
[18:01] <mathiaz> J-_: you should use IP in resolv.conf - you cannot use dns names
[18:01] <hylje> yep catch-22 otherwise
[18:01] <mathiaz> J-_: as resolv.conf is supposed to bootstrap name resolution
[18:02] <J-_> So would I use afraid.org's IP entries? Or, my own?
[18:03] <J-_> Not sure what I'm looking for
[18:03] <mathiaz> J-_: you should figure out which dns IP's your provider is using
[18:03] <mathiaz> J-_: your network administrator should know that
[18:03] <J-_> I'll just look in my router. there's 2 I know that.
[18:04] <J-_> Hopefully it resolves the issue
[18:04] <J-_> brb
[18:09] <Deeps> w/w 34
[18:12] <J-_> Didn't work. I still can't ping google, or get onto localhost/ my internal IP. port 80 is forwarded on the router.
[18:12] <J-_> I had it working before
[18:13] <mathiaz> J-_: are you able to resolve google?
[18:13] <J-_> no
[18:13] <mathiaz> J-_: are you able to ping your router?
[18:13] <J-_> let me check, brb
[18:14] <J-_> Says network is unreachable
[18:15] <mathiaz> J-_: what does ifconfig eth0 says?
[18:15] <mathiaz> J-_: it seems that your network card/interface is not setup correctly
[18:17] <J-_> Link encap:Ethernet HDaddr etc..
[18:18] <J-_> mathiaz:  want me to put it in a pastebin?
[18:18] <mathiaz> J-_: does it have an IP adress set?
[18:19] <mathiaz> J-_: like 192.168.1.120?
[18:19] <J-_> no
[18:19] <mathiaz> J-_: what does /etc/init.d/networking restart say?
[18:19] <mathiaz> J-_: ie - run the command: /etc/init.d/network restart
[18:21] <J-_> failed to open statefile on both ifdown and ifup --/var/run/network/ifstate: permission denied on both
[18:21] <mathiaz> J-_: run the command: sudo /etc/init.d/network restart
[18:21] <J-_> actually I may have to sudo the command
[18:21] <J-_> okay
[18:22] <J-_> reconfiguring network interfaces and it was successful
[18:22] <J-_> say [OK]
[18:22] <J-_> says*
[18:23] <mathiaz> J-_: is there an IP adresse for eth0 now?
[18:23] <mathiaz> J-_: ifconfig eth0
[18:23] <J-_> no
[18:25] <J-_> :S
[18:26] <mathiaz> J-_: are you running network manager?
[18:26] <J-_> network manager? I'm on a default install of a LAMP installation with no gui on the server.
[18:27] <J-_> laptop right beside me :)
[18:27] <J-_> same with server
[18:28] <mathiaz> J-_: is there a dhclient process running on the system?
[18:28] <J-_> I didn't set one up, how can I tell?
[18:28] <mathiaz> J-_: ps -ef
[18:28] <mathiaz> J-_: ^^ that gives a list of all the processes running on the system
[18:29] <mathiaz> J-_: *sudo* ps -ef
[18:31] <J-_> mathiaz:  it doesn't look like it
[18:31] <J-_> I'm on a Hardy Server install.
[18:32] <thefish> J-_: do you have more than one network interface on the server?
[18:32] <J-_> How would I tell? I only have 1 network card.
[18:34] <J-_> Maybe I'll change my ethernet cable to see if that works.
[18:34] <thefish> J-_: probably wont be that
[18:35] <thefish> but i have had eth0 automagically change to eth1 before, dont think it was ubuntu, and it was ages ago, but it may be worth considering
[18:36] <thefish> maybe try sudo ifconfig eth1 192.168.1.120 up
[18:36] <J-_> If I type "ifconfig eth1"  it says device not found.
[18:36] <J-_> k
[18:36] <thefish> ah ok
[18:37] <J-_> new network cable, I'll plug it in. brb
[18:38] <thefish> can you pastebin the results of just "ifconfig" after you did a "sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart"
[18:38] <thefish> i guess your /etc/network/interfaces is still the same as your old pastebin
[18:39] <thefish> also maybe give the results of "grep eth /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules"
[18:40] <J-_> thefish:  I just did, "sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart" then "ifconfig" it shows a inet address of 127.0.0.1
[18:40] <thefish> for interface lo
[18:41] <thefish> thats normal
[18:41] <J-_> let me pastebin the results
[18:41] <J-_> okay
[18:41] <thefish> k
[18:41] <J-_> I'll have to type it out :)
[18:41] <J-_> brb
[18:41] <thefish> huh?
[18:41] <thefish> ah ok dont worry then :)
[18:41] <J-_> Well, I mean if it helps I'll do it. :)
[18:41] <thefish> maybe "ifconfig | grep addr"
[18:41] <thefish> look in that for anything like an ip address
[18:42] <thefish> dont type it all out though!
[18:43] <J-_> thefish:  inet addr:127.0.0.1 mask:255.0.0.0        inet addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host
[18:43] <thefish> if still no other address, try "sudo ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.120 up"
[18:44] <thefish> J-_: that looks like its your "lo" interface, the loopback
[18:44] <thefish> try that manual ifconfig line and see what it says..
[18:44] <J-_> sudo ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.120 up returns nothing
[18:45] <J-_> let me type out(pastebin) my /etc/network/interfaces
[18:45] <J-_> !pastebin
[18:45] <thefish> ok it shouldnt return anything
[18:45] <J-_> k
[18:45] <thefish> but after you did it, check ifconfig again
[18:46] <thefish> is your interfaces file still the same as http://pastebin.com/m3fbb79f0 ?
[18:47] <J-_> I don't have auto eth0 it looks like. (I may have changed it last night)
[18:47] <thefish> ok that is what makes it come up "automatically" when the network service is started ;)
[18:48] <J-_> oh and, where it says gateway, it says network
[18:48] <thefish> did you check the output of ifconfig after running "sudo ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.120 up" ?
[18:48] <J-_> wit hthe same internal IP
[18:48] <thefish> ok so you should have exactly:
[18:48] <thefish> auto eth0
[18:49] <thefish> iface eth0 inet static
[18:49] <thefish> then indented under that a line each for address, netmask, gateway
[18:49] <thefish> you can have broadcast etc if you have done fancy things, but they are not needed otherwise
[18:50] <J-_> okay. above that, I have:
[18:50] <J-_> auto lo
[18:50] <J-_> iface lo inet loopback
[18:50] <thefish> good
[18:50] <J-_> k let me save. :)
[18:50] <J-_> Now, should I restart /etc/network/interfaces?
[18:51] <thefish> sudo /etc/init.d/network restart
[18:51] <J-_> k one moment
[18:52] <J-_> awesome, it worked
[18:52] <J-_> I can ping google
[18:52] <thefish> huzzah :)
[18:52] <J-_> Thanks a lot.
[18:52] <J-_> I mean, THANKS. lol :)
[18:53] <thefish> no worries
[18:53] <J-_> mathiaz:  Thanks too!
[18:53] <J-_> much appreciated.
[18:57] <J-_> Now I can work on it from ssh. :D
[18:57] <J-_> Man, that broke the ice. it took me hours last night to figure the darn thing out.
[18:57] <J-_> And I actually didn't figure it out
[18:57] <J-_> til now :P
[18:57] <J-_> Sorry.
[18:58] <J-_> well, I didn't!
[18:59] <thefish> J-_: do you understand how it works now?
[19:00] <thefish> you can check out "man interfaces" for more detail, and some cool voodoo you can do
[19:05] <mathiaz> kirkland: have you seen bug 236640?
[19:05] <J-_> thefish:  I think I have a general idea... If it messes up, or if I need to reconfigure it for some reason I don't think I could do it since I need to do things a few times before remembering/ troubleshooting. This is probably my 3rd or 4th time doing it within 3 or so years.
[19:06] <mathiaz> nijaba: what was the support of iscsi in hardy?
[19:06] <nijaba> mathiaz: good, except for booting from it
[19:06] <kirkland> mathiaz: of course i have, note who it's assigned to
[19:07] <mathiaz> kirkland: hm - ok :D
[19:07] <nijaba> mathiaz: we still have an issue in some condition, ask kirkland/etienneG about it
[19:07] <mathiaz> kirkland: I've just received the email and thus got on my radar...
[19:07] <mathiaz> nijaba: right - that's the issue with init script
[19:07] <mathiaz> this is one is related to the installer
[19:08]  * nijaba goes cooking for his family, back later
[19:08] <J-_> hrm, I wonder if I can disable something in my bios on the server so I don't have the keyboard and mouse hanging around. I mean, I suppose those are the arms if it's a headless server.
[19:08]  * J-_ palms
[19:12] <J-_> I liked how hardy asked what things to install--including lamp, CUPS, and openssh.
[19:12] <J-_> That's what I enabled anyway.
[19:14] <J-_> Oh yes, and how it asked to create a mysql password too.
[19:14] <J-_> I don't remember dapper asking me all of those things, though, I could be totally wrong :)
[19:14] <Rideh> hi i'm having trouble getting openldap to work on hardy, i've followed 4 differnt guides, multiple trouble shooting recommendations, reinstalled 4 or 5 times on 2 machines.  Has anyone recently gotten it working - if so do you have a link to a resource ?
[19:15] <sommer> Rideh: I have: https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/serverguide/C/openldap-server.html
[19:16] <jpugh> rideh: what kind of problems are you having? I have used the serverguide and am having no problems myself
[19:17] <Rideh> i've had a few differnt problems one was related to the SSO guide which apparently wasnt complete anywyas
[19:17] <Rideh> i dont have a log of all the error messages i've recieved
[19:17] <Rideh> i've worked through fixing ones related to hostnames, and bind
[19:18] <Rideh> but it seemed like ssl issues or tls issues kept gumming everything up
[19:18] <Rideh> i've purged openldap and i'm going to try again. i'll let you know what happens here in about 8 minutes
[19:18] <sommer> Rideh: it's probably better to get things working without ssl and tls, then go back and add them so you're only fighting one set of problems
[19:19] <Rideh> agreed which i've tried to do as well
[19:19] <J-_> What type of client should I use to update IPs that works with afraid.org? Not sure what I used before. I remember going through a couple programs a year or so ago.
[19:19] <J-_> not sure if I used ddclient or not.
[19:19] <Rideh> sommer: give me a few moments and i'll see what happens this go around
[19:20] <sommer> Rideh: sure, just ask when you have specific questions :)
[19:20] <Rideh> sure which is why i asked for a resource :)
[19:20] <Rideh> i dont mind rtfm as long as it gets me somewhere in the end lol  its been driving me up the wall
[19:30] <Rideh> and of course it works
[19:31] <Rideh> sigh
[19:31] <Rideh> litterally spent 3 days off and on trying to make this work right... no idea. thats terrible.    least all the rest of the services minus nfs are up and running
[19:32] <sommer> party!
[19:33] <ScottK> I'd like to suggest that those of you who have blogs on planet might want to start doing 'cool new stuff' postings now to help build interest in the release.
[19:34] <tonyyarusso> Speaking of release, is there a summary separate from the general release notes of things that are new in Intrepid specific to server usage?
[19:34] <J-_> What dynamic IP DNS client works with afraid.org? Not sure if I used ddclient, or not.
[19:34] <tonyyarusso> (I'm going to be setting up a new server soon, and need to decide whether to use 8.04 or 8.10)
[19:35] <tonyyarusso> J-_: inadyn claims to
[19:35] <J-_> hmm nice.
[19:35] <Rideh> tonyyarusso: i went with 8.04 for production environment
[19:35] <Rideh> i'm in the same boat
[19:36] <ScottK> I only have a small number of servers and so I tend to track the latest release.
[19:36] <tonyyarusso> I think so far the only thing that looks interesting is the encrypted private directory, but I'm guessing there's more.
[19:36] <ScottK> Upgrade from Hardy to Intrepid was totally painless on my test server.
[19:36] <Rideh> my comfort level is still relatively low which lead me to go with somethign with more existing support documented (although i doubt there is significant change)
[19:40] <J-_> Glad I've installed Hardy, newer packages than Dapper and, it's probably a lot better since it's a newer LTS system, let alone the evolved stated from dapper to hardy. :D
[19:40] <J-_> Now I don't have stagnant programs looming around
[19:41] <Rideh> sommer: ty for the help
[19:41] <Rideh> off to whats next :)
[19:43] <sommer> Rideh: np
[20:02] <J-_> Does anyone use afraid.org here? I'm trying to get a cron working to update my DNS regularly, I came across a script and it says they're using, "echo '*/5 * * * * root /usr/bin/wget http://freedns.afraid.org/dynamic/index.php?action=script&data_id=XXXXX" But, where the XXXXX's are they said, "NOTE: In the above, the XXXXXX is an id number provided by freedns.afraid.org" I'm not sure what they mean on ID number. Anyone know what they're g
[20:02] <J-_> oing on about?
[20:05] <tonyyarusso> I would assume that must be something connected to your account and available from the web site...  Haven't seen it myself, but I'd go poking around the web interface for it.
[20:08] <J-_> tonyyarusso:  am trying.. :P
[20:16] <J-_> hmm, what's the command to make a new cronjob? cronjob -d?
[20:16] <J-_> hmm
[20:17] <J-_> ah hah! sudo crontab -e
[20:20] <J-_> would echo '*/5 * * * * be every 5 minutes?
[20:20] <J-_> Bah, yes it is. Answering my own questions. lol
[20:22] <ScottK> So are you the cron job then?
[20:23] <J-_> didn't work for some reason
[20:24] <ScottK> Then I guess not.
[20:28] <nijaba> ScottK: would you recommend interfacing postfix directly with clamav or through amavisd-new?
[20:30] <nijaba> ScottK: never mind if you answered to slangacek in #ubuntu-release
[20:34] <pltmnky> howdy :)
[20:40] <pltmnky> question: (ubuntu 8.04) i have a print server, and a client machine. there are already pre-exisint ldap and kerberos setup (they work as expected).  I set up cups 1.3 on both, and the client machine recives the printerlist from the print server, and print over IPP.  What I am trying to do is, have cups verify that the user printing is authenticated, and so that no local users can print without authentication.  (I have set this up to work from 
[20:43] <ScottK> nijaba: I answered him, but for here: The recommended way for Postfix is through amavisd-new
[20:43] <ScottK> You can do it other ways.
[20:44]  * lamont notes that if ScottK called it "postfi x', then it wouldn't blue-tab lamont
[20:44] <lamont> :-)
[20:44] <lamont> hi SchneeSchwarz
[20:44] <lamont> meh.  Hi ScottK
[20:45]  * ScottK notes that if lamont doesn't want to get alerted whenever someone says postfix, lamont could arrange that.
[20:46] <lamont> esp since ScottK does such a good job of answering them in his place, making it even easier. :-)
[20:47]  * ScottK ponders making his nick postfix.
[20:48]  * lamont ponders kickbanning ScottK just for giggles
[20:48]  * lamont decides that might be overkill
[20:49] <tonyyarusso> Speaking of printing, I've never quite understood this - if you have a printer hooked up to a print server which is in turn on the network, why do the other client machines also need to have the printer driver?
[20:49] <Rideh__> because the print server isnt actually decoding the document, its just taking the data stream to the printer
[20:50] <tonyyarusso> Oh, I guess that makes sense.
[20:50] <tonyyarusso> Would there be a way to make it do so, so you didn't have to worry about the clients?
[20:57] <Pizarro> Hi, I have installed poptp VPN server under Linux and everything works fine except the VPN connection only lasts a few seconds and then it disconnects, please I really need help. Thanks
[20:57] <Pizarro> While the VPN connection is established, I can ping other machines, etc.. but whatever is the reason when I do this (when some data is transfered between the cleint and the server) it just disconnects
[20:59] <J-_> Can anyone help me get a cronjob working with afraid.org services to update my IP/ DNS?
[21:01] <Pizarro> I just want to install a successfull VPN server under UBuntu, and it seems to be a nightmare
[21:12] <Rideh__> is kickstart still the recommended tool to use for creating preconfigured installs?
[21:26] <andol> Rideh__: Kickstart sounds more like Redhat/CentOS. How about taking a look at preseeds?
[21:27] <Rideh__> andol: righton i'll look into that
[21:27] <Rideh__> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KickstartCompatibility was the ony documentation i was finding but looked old
[21:27] <Rideh__> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PXEInstallServer also referenced kickstartr
[21:28] <andol> Rideh__: Well, here is one preseeds https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/installation-guide/amd64/preseed-using.html
[21:28] <andol> (Yes, preseeds works well from a pxe-boots)
[21:29] <Rideh__> righton i'll look into it
[21:29] <andol> The nice thing about preseeds is the natural integration with the debian-installer and debconf.
[21:31] <andol> Just remember you might have to modify the example somewhat. From what I can see it is more or less taken directoy from Lenny, which doesn't behave excatly the same way as Hardy.
[21:40] <Rideh__> andol: i guess my question is taking this a step further
[21:40] <Rideh__> andol: i am wanting a computer lab setup so if a machine goes down they can pxe boot and get a fresh install to replace it
[21:41] <Rideh__> the computer lab has ldap authentication, nfs shares etc. can all those config files be preseeded?
[21:43] <andol> Rideh__: Hmm, possibly. But if nothing else you can always tell preseed to run scripts post-install. That script should be able to take care of things for you.
[21:43] <Rideh__> true
[21:43] <Rideh__> i guess my other option
[21:43] <Rideh__> is to create an image of what i want then make pxe just host that image
[21:44] <Rideh__> still needing scripts to modify hostnames and such though :/
[21:44] <andol> Rideh__: Myself I'm considering a solution combining kickstart and preseeds with puppet.
[21:46] <andol> Rideh__: Well, do you really need to hostcode hostnames? Just let dhcp handle those settings?
[21:46] <andol> s/hostcode/hardcode/
[21:46] <Rideh__> i'm not familar with that
[21:46] <Rideh__> and no not particuarily
[21:48] <Rideh__> mind if i pm you?
[21:48] <andol> np
[22:45] <DCPom> I need a 10 day uranium trade. Any offers?
[22:52] <Rideh__> i'm attempting ot setup a client ot authenticate off of pam
[22:52] <Rideh__> it states to double check /etc/libnss-ldap.conf   after going thru the dkpg configure stuff yet this file does not exist
[22:53] <Rideh__> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LDAPClientAuthentication
[22:54] <Rideh__> have i done something wrong, has this file been moved or obsolete?
[22:55] <mathiaz> kirkland: you don't think bug 288226 warrants a SRU?
[22:57] <kirkland> mathiaz: i didn't look at it closely;  what i did see was some people getting fussy about zul's response, and a request for the appropriate policy documentation
[22:57] <kirkland> mathiaz: i merely pasted the URL of the backports process
[22:58] <mathiaz> kirkland: ah ok. From the changelog it looks like 8.0.13 are bugfixes only.
[22:58] <mathiaz> kirkland: since it seems we have a severe performance regression it may worth looking into a SRU.
[22:58] <kirkland> mathiaz: fair enough;  i'm not establishing an opinion on that one at present
[22:59] <kirkland> mathiaz: i actually don't have any idea what drdb is
[22:59] <mathiaz> kirkland: ok
[22:59] <kirkland> mathiaz: database of doctors?  :-)
[23:00] <mathiaz> kirkland: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DRBD
[23:01] <kirkland> mathiaz: looks cool
[23:02] <mathiaz> kirkland: yeah - it's one of the basic component in 2-node failover systems