[02:15] <vbabiy> Hello
[16:58] <thorwil> newz2000: hi! http://xs432.xs.to/xs432/08433/get_8_10_02206.png
[16:58] <newz2000> oh, that's nice
[16:58] <thorwil> newz2000: Kenneth prefers 2 over 3
[16:58] <newz2000> I think that looks more clickable
[16:58] <newz2000> Does he know the goal to make it look clickable
[16:58] <thorwil> sure
[16:59] <newz2000> I like the embossed dots on two the best
[16:59] <newz2000> it'll work
[16:59] <newz2000> if you send me just #2 (A and C) I'll put them in two weeks after launch
[17:00] <thorwil> ok, will do :)
[17:00] <newz2000> thanks thorwil
[17:00] <thorwil> you're welcome
[20:30] <Volans> Hi newz2000 :) if you can/want I can help you for the translation of the start page as I have wrote to you yesterday
[20:39] <newz2000> hey Volans
[20:40] <Volans> Hi newz2000 :) where I can found the latest version of the start page? (the html code)
[20:41] <newz2000> Volans: branch from this: http://people.ubuntu.com/~mnuzum/projects/start/
[20:41] <newz2000> bzr branch http://people.ubuntu.com/~mnuzum/projects/start/
[20:41] <newz2000> we'll be working with the stuff in the 8.10 folder, the only file there that's relevant is the 8.10/index_template.html
[20:42] <newz2000> (the other html files haven't been updated yet)
[20:42] <Volans> ok
[20:42] <newz2000> wait, let me ensure its up to date
[20:42] <Volans> lol
[20:43] <Volans> Branched 37 revision(s).
[20:43] <newz2000> that's correct
[20:43] <newz2000> 37 is the latest
[20:43] <Volans> ok, so let's start :)
[20:50] <newz2000> Volans: I'm ready, what do you want me to do?
[20:51] <Volans> I'm searching the options I have used with html2po atm... give me a couple of minutes
[20:51] <newz2000> no prob, let me know when you need me
[20:51] <Volans> ok, thans
[20:52] <Volans> *thanks
[21:17] <Volans> newz2000: and the offline start page will be the same as the hardy one?
[21:18] <newz2000> Volans: no, the hardy one will remain mostly unchanged
[21:18] <newz2000> oh
[21:18] <newz2000> offline
[21:18] <newz2000> i don't know where we stand with that
[21:18] <newz2000> I guess so
[21:18] <Volans> ok
[21:19] <Volans> because I have found the work I have done some times ago and was structured to manage both offline and online start pages
[21:19] <Volans> if you want I can extract only the online part
[21:19] <newz2000> yes, lets do it that way
[21:20] <Volans> ok
[21:20] <newz2000> I noticed that firefox has an offline page and I thought we were going to use it
[22:10] <Volans> newz2000: I'm doing some tests...
[22:14] <Volans> all seems to work fine
[22:14] <newz2000> woo hoo
[22:15] <newz2000> now what do we do?
[22:15] <Volans> the standard output from po2html is a oneline document, but I use tidy to make it more readable
[22:16] <Volans> I can sent to you a zip with the files, a .pot file that is the "master" po file (a template po) that the guys of the doc team will translate copying it to something like $locale.po
[22:16] <Volans> after you have to dowload all the translated po files, put all them in a folder
[22:16] <Volans> and run the script I will sent you
[22:16] <Volans> :)
[22:16] <newz2000> cool
[22:16] <newz2000> does it make sense to put this into launchpad for translation?
[22:17] <Volans> I think so.. why not?
[22:17] <newz2000> I can't think of a reason not to
[22:17] <Volans> actually the script assume that the po files names are the locale used in the extensions index.html.en-gb index.html.it that apache needs
[22:18] <Volans> you can confirm that only the title, and the 3 links text should be translated?
[22:18] <newz2000> correct
[22:18] <Volans> (not the google stuffs and the bottom links)
[22:18] <newz2000> precisely
[22:18] <Volans> ok
[22:18] <newz2000> four strings
[22:18] <Volans> so I can sent you the files and you can insert them as you prefer in the actual branch
[22:19] <Volans> (if needed)
[22:19] <newz2000> thats fine
[22:19] <newz2000> at one time did you create a project on launchpad?
[22:20] <Volans> yes I do when we starded and add you as an administrator
[22:20]  * newz2000 looks for it
[22:20] <Volans> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-start-page
[22:21] <newz2000> thanks
[22:21] <Volans> this is the team
[22:21] <Volans> and this is the project: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-start-page
[22:24] <newz2000> Volans: do you want to upload the translation file template or would you like me to do it?
[22:24] <newz2000> https://translations.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu-start-page/trunk/+translations-upload
[22:25] <Volans> you can do that as well, I think that a check from a guy of the doc team (for example mdke) can be good in order to avoid any problem or missing metatag in the pot file
[22:26] <newz2000> ok
[22:26] <Volans> I'm writing now the email I will sent you ;)
[22:26] <newz2000> perfect. Thanks a bunch for your help
[22:28] <Volans> don't mention it... the most hard work today was to remember what I have done this spring :)
[22:32] <Volans> newz2000: mail sent! try it and let me know ;)
[22:33]  * newz2000 checks now
[22:33] <Volans> the script have some comments but is not thinked for a mass usage, only you should launch it onetime in order to create all the translated files to be copied into the server
[22:37] <newz2000> that seems clear enough, i'll try it all now
[22:38] <newz2000> hmm. I don't think .pot files are presentation templates. :-)
[22:39] <Volans> LOL, no, po templates ;)
[22:39] <Volans> copy it to a file.po and use a translation editor like poedit or emacs (with some custom configuration)
[22:40] <newz2000> lets see what happens when we upload it to launchpad
[22:41] <newz2000> oh, it has to be reviewed by an admin
[22:41] <newz2000> Do you suppose that's me or is that someone on launchpad?
[22:41] <Volans> I think that every project on first upload of translation files have to be approved by a launchpad or launchpad-translation admin
[22:42] <Volans> but I'm not sure
[22:42] <newz2000> I see
[22:42] <newz2000> Volans: so what is your new job?
[22:44] <Volans> I think a quite correct translation can be web developer... :)
[22:45] <newz2000> what are you doing at your job?
[22:46] <Volans> atm a new site based on the code of a previous site, making it more general in such a way that after we can make more than one site with the same code adding only different templates and personalized classes
[22:46] <newz2000> so are you doing server side development?
[22:48] <Volans> I develop all the site workflow, from the virtual host to the css and javascript among with other two guys
[22:49] <newz2000> ah, sounds like fun
[22:49] <newz2000> so do you use ubuntu at work?
[22:50] <Volans> surely!!! in my company we are 15 developer and 14 of us use ubuntu for our desktop clients and the servers are debian
[22:51] <newz2000> that's cool
[22:51] <newz2000> Ubuntu is taking over the world. :-)
[22:51] <Volans> yeah! :)
[22:51] <newz2000> Except the graphics design world (until Adobe creates CS4 for Ubuntu)
[22:52] <Volans> lol!
[23:22] <Volans> now I have to go... good night! newz2000 feel free to call me (usually I'm online although not in many channells, call me in query or send me an email) if you encounter any problem :)
[23:22] <newz2000> ok, thanks a bunch Volans
[23:22] <newz2000> what you did looks good and makes sense so I think I'm clear.
[23:23] <Volans> my pleasure...
[23:23] <Volans> good night (for me, for you, good evening :))
[23:23] <newz2000> ;-)
[23:24] <Volans> bye bye :)