=== asac_ is now known as asac [01:23] What happens if I determined that bug 288119 should be filed against gnome-panel-data but it isnt a choice. Should i choose gnome-panel? [01:23] Launchpad bug 288119 in ubuntu "clock applet hebrew (rtl) week days are justified to the left (too much)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/288119 [01:24] nevermind, answered my own question === Knightlust is now known as Igorot === RAOF_ is now known as RAOF === fenris_ is now known as e-jat [05:31] * Woody86 is away: I'll brb, PM me or say my name [05:31] * Woody86 is back (gone 00:00:23) === Woody86 is now known as woody86 [05:47] !away > woody86 [05:47] woody86, please see my private message [05:50] RAOF- did my away message just come up again? [05:52] Only once; I only just noticed it. [05:53] And it's annoying, and you might not have known that it's considered rude. [05:58] RAOF- Yeah, sorry about that, someone else let me know, too. I just switched from ChatZilla to xchat, and I didn't realize that it broadcast your away message like that, I thought it meant marking you as away on all networks. My bad :( [05:58] I changed it, so no worries anymore, but thanks for the pointer :) [06:24] we should really remove that option from xchat :) [06:25] which option? [06:25] ikt: the one where it prints your /away blah blah blah to the channel [06:25] ikt: and when you come back it says you're coming back and how long you were gone [06:26] o [06:56] good morning === bdmurray changed the topic of #ubuntu-bugs to: Next Hug Day is 28 Oct | Ubuntu BugSquad | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugSquad | Documentation: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HelpingWithBugs | If you have been triaging bugs for a while, please apply to https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-bugcontrol/ | Want to report a bug? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs | User support (not related to triage) is in #ubuntu === Igorot is now known as Knightlust [09:49] anyone with know-how to guide me into troubleshooting a non working sound input problem ? [09:56] any ideas on bug #236602 [09:56] Launchpad bug 236602 in f-spot "No applications available for photo editing if Gnome is not installed" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/236602 [10:16] elmargol: try seeing what it's calling [10:16] http://bayimg.com/nAlKFaABJ <- [10:16] seb128: how? [10:17] elmargol: strace? [10:37] seb128: i'm looking at the source. f-spot uses something called fime fetcher === doko_ is now known as doko === asac__ is now known as asac [11:16] sebner: on #f-spot they tell my I need gnome-session in order to get this working :( [11:17] sorry sebner wrong nick [11:17] elmargol: np [11:36] hi [11:36] coming from both #ubuntu+1 and #ubuntu-testing [11:36] got a busybox with RC [11:37] using 64bits booting from pendrive [11:37] burned with usb-creator [11:37] any idea on how to get logs? [11:38] BUGabundo_work: I would suggest you boot again, choose language, then hit F6 [11:38] ok [11:38] then what? [11:38] then delete "quiet splash" from the kernel command line [11:38] and add break=top [11:38] I already removed splash and quite [11:38] I always do that [11:38] ok [11:38] break top [11:38] * BUGabundo_work rebooting [11:39] then we need to do some sed, but I can't remember the file to target [11:39] * BUGabundo_work booting === ogra_ is now known as ogra [11:39] ok [11:39] it crashed even earlier [11:39] at 2.744 sec [11:39] I need to know what dirs are in the root from your prompt [11:39] busybox? [11:39] with input: at translated [11:40] initramfs [11:40] if you've got a busybox prompt, that's not crashing, that's what break=top does [11:40] ah ok [11:40] it allows you to get a shell before anything happens [11:40] now what? [11:40] I need to know what dirs are in the root from your prompt [11:40] that's why it only took 2.7 secs [11:40] ok [11:41] ls it [11:41] yup [11:41] the /root is empty [11:41] or did you mean / ? [11:41] yeah / [11:41] plain "ls" [11:41] is there a "scripts" dir? [11:42] dev root bin conf etc lib sbin ... [11:42] ok [11:42] scripts init lib64 var usr sys proc [11:42] and tmp [11:42] ah, what's in scripts? [11:42] yes there is [11:42] need and ls of it? [11:42] init-mount init-top nfs-top nfs... [11:43] local-premount local dunctions casper-premount [11:43] init-bottom local-bottom [11:43] casper-bottom casper casper-functions casper helpers lupin-helpers [11:44] done james_w [11:44] there we go [11:44] sed -i '2a set -x' scripts/casper [11:44] enter that [11:45] humm here is ' on eng keyb? [11:45] I have PT [11:45] " should work if you can find that [11:45] I did [11:45] its on º [11:45] and ' is on ª [11:45] it's a US keyboard I think, so it doesn't match mine either [11:46] once that command completed successfully type "exit" [11:46] it seems to be booting [11:46] and the boot will continue, but with even more messages, try and spot any errors [11:46] nope [11:46] back to initramfs [11:46] let me do a pgup to see [11:47] nothing there [11:47] hi.. i've never submitted a bug report to ubuntu before so i'm not really sure where to start.. but i'm trying to install 8.10 rc through the live cd and when i get to the partitioner, nothing comes up [11:47] no errors, or nothing? [11:47] other then the usual "unable to enumerate usb port" [11:47] nothing other then the usual boot stuff [11:48] is this an appropriate place to ask about that? [11:48] hmm [11:48] no ERROR word around or FAIL [11:49] amagee: yes it is, can you quit ubiquity, and then open a terminal, then run 'ubiquity-gtk' and go through to the partitioner again [11:49] ok [11:49] going back all the way to 42 sec I see nothing unusual [11:49] amagee: assuming you are installing Ubuntu, and not Kubuntu [11:49] yes [11:49] ubiquity is the installerL [11:49] installer? [11:49] BUGabundo_work: yeah, it won't necessarily have ERROR [11:49] amagee: yes [11:49] ok [11:50] amagee: you don't need to reboot or anything, just close it like a normal application [11:50] any more ideas james_w? [11:50] um there's no ubiquity-gtk, there's just ubiquity and ubiquity-dm [11:50] BUGabundo_work: the "unable to enumerate usb port" sounds like it could be it, as you are trying to boot from USB [11:50] amagee: one second please [11:51] ok [11:51] maybe [11:51] but I've always seen that [11:51] I think it's the webcam [11:51] I can boot up on regular ibex and check the log [11:51] I think I have a couple of them on some LP bugs [11:53] james_w: ill look at regular boot [11:53] with the break top [11:54] or it can be a BIOS bug [11:54] having the pen connected and choosing "boot from disk" fails [11:54] and gets back to Casper [11:54] amagee: ah, it is just "ubiquity", sorry [11:55] ok [11:55] BUGabundo_work: so just having the pen connected causes normal boot to fail? [11:55] no [11:55] it fails to boot from disk [11:55] ok so i'm at the 'prepare partitions' screen again [11:55] no output to the console [11:55] for some strange resson [11:56] my bios sees pendrives as disks [11:56] so you can only choose on to boot from [11:56] ok, I booted to my disk [11:56] and added break=top [11:56] how can I make it stop around 40 sec? [11:56] to check for the USB enumerate? [11:57] btw it worked fine in beta 5 [11:57] too fast for me [11:58] I'll have to see dmesg when it boots [11:58] amagee: did you get to choose Guided or Manual partitioning yet? [11:59] no [11:59] it says 'setting up partitioner', then i get to the list of partitions, but there are no partitions [11:59] and all the buttons are grayed out [11:59] if i press next it says "No root file system is defined. Please correct this from the partitioning menu." [12:00] ah, that's not quite what you said when you came in [12:00] james_w: http://paste.ubuntu.com/61928 [12:00] if i press back it does nothing (!) [12:00] all the buttons are greyed out? [12:00] yep [12:00] new partition table, new partition, etc [12:00] ouch [12:00] BUGabundo_work: that's from a successful boot? [12:01] yep [12:01] from my intrepid install [12:01] can't see any enumerate lines on the log [12:01] amagee: you don't have a "/dev/sda" Device? [12:01] or anything in the box? [12:02] bah [12:02] they are on the kernel log [12:02] pastin now [12:02] james_w: http://paste.ubuntu.com/61930 [12:02] so that can't be it [12:03] james_w: what exactly do you mean [12:03] there are no devices listed in the bok [12:03] amagee: here in the large table in the middle I have in the Device column "/dev/sda", do you have anything in the table? [12:03] box [12:04] no, there's nothing at all in the table [12:04] Oct 24 10:48:08 blubug kernel: [ 3.965071] hub 1-0:1.0: unable to enumerate USB device on port 1 [12:04] this is what I had on the pen boot too [12:04] any more tips? [12:04] amagee: ok, are you just installing on to a normal hard drive, or is there anything odd about your setup? [12:04] should I MD5 the pen install? [12:04] BUGabundo: definitely [12:04] the iso md5 is valid. I always check [12:04] though I don't know how to do that. [12:05] BUGabundo: have you done the intergrity check from the boot menu? [12:05] james_w: um, a normal hard drive.. it has a fair few partitions already on it though [12:05] but as i said it worked fine in beta 5 [12:05] no I didn't [12:05] /media/KINGSTON$ md5sum -c md5sum.txt > /tmp/md5rc [12:06] it's already got like 2x ext3, 2x ntfs and a swap [12:06] james_w: http://paste.ubuntu.com/61931/ [12:06] amagee: ok, i think you should file a bug on "ubiquity" with all of the information that you told me [12:06] all OK [12:07] running out of ideas! [12:07] james_w: ok.. how exactly do i do that? [12:07] this is recent [12:07] last week I booted fine [12:08] amagee: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+filebug [12:08] ubuntu-bug ubiquity? [12:08] or that, yes [12:08] is that better? [12:08] yeah, that's better [12:09] james_w: should I try the 32 bits version? [12:09] BUGabundo: you could do [12:09] will it do me any good? [12:09] eheh [12:09] or since it's still running, ubuntu-bug PID [12:16] james_w: i've submitted the bug report.. thanks for your help [12:16] pretty impressed with the bug system :) [12:17] james_w: new i386 image burned [12:17] will reboot as soon as the 68 updates are instaled [12:24] if I create a new bug, by default it sets the bug as "This bug doesn't affect me " [12:24] which is rather strange [12:25] indeed [12:25] why would I report a bug that doesn't effect me? :) [12:25] there's already a bug reported about that [12:25] ha [12:26] eheh [12:26] I've filed bugs that don't affect me! [12:26] its a choise [12:27] but of course the large majority I'm affected by then [12:27] *them [12:29] * BUGabundo_work rebooting to rc 32bits [12:29] james_w: same busy box on i386 [12:30] hmm [12:30] do bugs like mine usually get fixed quickly? [13:22] why am I unable to view bug 288691 ? I thought bugcontrol had access to private bugs [13:22] Bug 288691 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/288691 is private [13:24] Rocket2DMn: private bugs can only be accessed by the reporter and the direct subscribers, [13:25] hmm, alright. I've been working on bug 285682 and the OP was able to file a bug through apport I guess, but I just can't look at it [13:26] Launchpad bug 285682 in linux "Ubuntu 8.10 can't mount digital camera" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/285682 [13:26] If I have him subscribe me to it, I will be able to view it then thekorn ? [13:27] or you can email the bug report, and ask the op to remove the private flag [13:27] can the gvfs team view it? [13:28] I'm not trying to break through the security, if it's private for a reason, then I'll leave it as so. I was going to finish the triage on the initial bug anyway [13:28] Rocket2DMn: exactly, when the reporter subscribs you to the bugreport, you can access this one [13:29] thanks thekorn , ill have him subscribe me. [13:29] Rocket2DMn: or wait a bit until the retracer adds ubuntuu-bugs as a subscription [13:30] ahhhhhhh, i thought it was strange that i couldnt see it. bugcontrol DOES have access to private reports right? [13:30] I've always been able to see them in the search queries and access them === LucidFox_ is now known as LucidFox [13:34] Rocket2DMn: no, bugcontrol gets no special access granted by LP. [13:35] Rocket2DMn: however, when apport retraces a bug it subscribes the crash bug triagers, of which bugcontrol is a member, so any member of bug control can view the bug. [13:36] oic. launchpad is one of those few things that i never bothered to learn the intracacies of === BugMaN1 is now known as BugMaN [13:45] Rocket2DMn: damn, I lost my connection, sorry, I hope your questions were answered [13:47] james_w: can you take a look at bug 288617 [13:47] Launchpad bug 288617 in linux "suspend to ram" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/288617 [13:47] why me> [13:47] any more tests I can do to figure why my system won't boot from pendrive? [13:48] james_w: because you have to fix everything! [13:48] eheh why not james_w? [13:48] Hobbsee: any tips are welcome [13:48] I want to file that report with as much acure intel as I can [13:48] * Hobbsee shrugs. no idea [13:49] BUGabundo_work: does it boot from other pendrives? do other systems boot from the pendrive? it could be a hardware thing.. [13:50] BUGabundo_work: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingGNOMEPowerManager#Finding out why suspend or hibernate aren't offered [13:50] thanks james_w [13:50] Treenaks: haven't tried other systems today [13:50] ill use another pc here at work.... [13:50] but they are slower machines and most of them 32 bits [13:51] on my laptop I've used 2 pendrives [13:51] from the same iso, both using usb-creator [13:52] even if it was HW [13:52] its strange it work all the way up to last week [13:52] Monday was the 1st day I noticed I couldn't boot from pen [13:53] * BUGabundo_work rebooting another PC to test i386 image [13:53] thekorn, yes, thank you. I'm running afk :) [13:55] Treenaks: what does "missing operating system" mean? [13:56] I've booted this PC just this week from clonezilla [13:56] BUGabundo_work: can you boot from CD? [13:56] so I know it can boot from USB [13:56] bah... do I really need to burn media? [13:56] I only have DVDs here [13:56] humm [13:56] BUGabundo_work: that's probably a usb-creator bug, you need to run install-mbr /dev/sdb or whatever [13:56] I have an RW around [13:57] * BUGabundo_work burning DVD rw [13:58] doesn't burn to disc offer to format rw? [13:58] bah I'm starting to lose features === thunders1ruck is now known as gnomefreak === thunderstruck is now known as gnomefreak === Knightlust is now known as Igorot === thunderstruck is now known as gnomefreak === persia_ is now known as persia === dholbach_ is now known as dholbach [15:56] mvo: ping [15:57] bdmurray: pong [15:58] mvo: you were looking for some logs for a filed kde4 remix upgrade to Intrepid right? [15:58] bdmurray: yes [15:58] * BUGabundo_work booting via CD to check if usb-creater has a bug. wgrant james_w === thekorn_ is now known as thekorn [15:59] mvo: bug 277285 has some but I upgraded yesterday without a problem [15:59] Launchpad bug 277285 in update-manager "kubuntu hardy -> ibex via upgrade-manager fails on 'kubuntu-kde4-desktop'" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/277285 [15:59] james_w: guess what? [15:59] "Reboot and Select proper Boot device" [16:00] how can a CD not be recognised? [16:00] actaully it's a DVD-RW but still... [16:01] bdmurray: thanks, I check it out [16:01] bdmurray: one issue I found was that gobuntu-desktop causes trouble, but that is fixed now (fix is in the queue) [16:02] bdmurray: hmmm, thanks for this one, I have a suspicion [16:02] we really should just have kept the kubuntu-kde4-desktop package as a transitional package in the archive :/ [16:03] mvo: kubuntu-kde4-desktop is quirked though right? [16:03] bdmurray: it is, however I believe that there is a corner case not covered [16:03] I test this theory now [16:04] mvo: okay thanks, let me now as I've found a couple of likely duplicates [16:05] will do, takes ~10min [16:08] mvo: bug 277389 is also a duplicate with some log files if it helps [16:08] Launchpad bug 277389 in kubuntu-kde4-meta "Error trying to update to Intrepid from Hardy : failed to mark 'kubuntu-kde4-desktop' for install" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/277389 [16:11] heh bug 288746 [16:11] Launchpad bug 288746 in update-manager "update hoary to intrepid RC failed with dpkg locked" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/288746 [16:21] booting via CD seems to not fail as did pendrive wgrant james_w [16:21] who is the guy behind usb-creator? [16:21] I have a new bug for him [16:21] wgrant: now to try suspend to ram from livecd [16:23] wgrant: suspend works with RC LiveCD [16:30] bdmurray, jibel: thanks, I can reproduce it now and I'm in the process of fixing it === thunderstruck is now known as gnomefreak [16:31] mvo: okay, so bug 277285 should be the master? [16:31] Launchpad bug 277285 in update-manager "kubuntu hardy -> ibex via upgrade-manager fails on 'kubuntu-kde4-desktop'" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/277285 [16:31] bdmurray: yeah, sounds good [16:31] thanks a lot for brining this up [16:31] * mvo hugs bdmurray [16:35] mvo: no problem, I'll be interested to see what was going on and the fix [16:39] oh Launchpad you big tease [17:02] bdmurray: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/update-manager/main/revision/1146?start_revid=1146 <- this should fix it, I'm testing it right now === nellery_ is now known as nellery [18:02] is there any way to remove a comment from LP? [18:05] woody86: If you feel it is inappropriate content/spam you can email the launchpad-users mailing list (http://lists.ubuntu.com). [18:05] I think answers is the right way to go [18:05] ah [18:06] I have only seen it on the lp-users list, so that is what I think of [18:07] greg-g- well I kind of made a silly mistake, I had 2 bugs open in tabs next to eachother, and I minimized them for a little bit while I was looking some info up, and I accidentally left the comment on the wrong bug :P [18:11] see https://answers.launchpad.net/malone/ for examples [18:27] someone can tell me where should I go to fix a translation error in jockey? [18:28] launchpad tells me : This project is not configured to use Launchpad for translations. [18:28] stpere: https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/intrepid/+translations [18:34] I typed the name of the program "jockey" into the search box at the top of tha page, it found it, I clicked on "Help translate" and it told me that the project wasn't configured to use Launchpad for translations [18:35] and trying to find the template name where nellery you shown me is very slow [18:35] because they are sorted by importance and I can't sort it by name [18:55] stpere, The difference is that upstream jockey doesn't use LP for translations, but the jockey in Ubuntu does, so you'll have to do it the awkward way. Someone in #launchpad might have a better idea of how to navigate to what you want. === csilk_ is now known as csilk === ogra_ is now known as ogra [21:27] hi, I'm trying to assign my bug to an Ubuntu source package but can't figure out how [21:28] the project search returns only the standalone project "onboard" [21:29] what would I enter as project to link it to ubuntu source package onboard? [21:29] marmuta: nothing. Use "also affects distribution" [21:31] yay, thank you afflux, it worked! [21:31] you're welcome === csilk_ is now known as csilk [23:42] what is the triage protocol if bug creators cant provide information because they downgraded distros? [23:47] try to recreate the bug [23:48] i thought of that but its hardware specific [23:48] bug 287866 [23:48] Launchpad bug 287866 in linux "USB Gigaware Microphone" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/287866 [23:48] its grossly incomplete as well [23:49] Maybe give it some time and see if anyone else comments on it or ask them to test with a Live CD. [23:50] Might be a good idea to wait until after intrepid release : the debug information may still be useful for jaunty, and more users may have that device. [23:51] okay, thanks for the help [23:52] anyone know how i switch to the guest user in intrepid, i need to test a bug with it